Vengeance Note: SMTVV nerfed the amount of Magatsuhi Gauge you get from sacrificing Demons from 30% to 15%. So this strat may not work the exact same now
Really? Shit. Ah well, thats fine because i was thinking of using this strat for the new superbosses... but one of them doesn't reflect anything, and if the othet one does, it wasn't until more then halfway thru the fight lol
Yeah, the game takes it as a Weak-strike and it gives an extra turn... I couldn't believe it too when it happened to me yesterday, but I can say that it can be very useful sometimes!
RIGHT??? i'm sitting here wondering why they're bothering using mudo skills on kali when she clearly reflects them, until the second time with danu and i had to sit here and be like 'wait why did the extra turn icon give them an extra turn for dying...' then after it all processed correctly i was just like 'YOU GET AN EXTRA TURN FOR PUTTING WEAKNESS ON YOURSELF???' my mind was absolutely blown into pieces.
Dev 1: What should we do for a Magatsuhi Skill? Dev 2: 100% crit for a turn? Dev 1: Ok, what else? Dev 3: A skill that increase damage the lower the HP of party members are? Dev 2: Wait, isn't that broken? Dev 1: Who cares, it's not like people will use it turn 2 turn kill all bosses on Hard Mode, right?
to be fair, it's good on the devs that they give you all of these options to mess with, it's only an insta-win if you strategise perfectly which is completely fair
I almost did a spit-take of my coffee when I saw the damage Nahobino did on Shiva. Great work on the team building and press turn manipulation, can’t imagine the time it took
Safeguarding an extra press turn out of a demon who will have its weakness reflected back at it to make room for more turns for other party members while also building Magatsuhi is, without question, the most galaxy brain strat I have ever seen in any RPG bar none. Bravo!
I saw another guy do this by instead of this, he uses the first turn to buff, then uses adversity, uses murakumo on Nahobino and switches out all other party members to give Nahobino 5 uses of murakumo in one turn
@@raoulLupin thought I had deleted that comment. I realised the reason all the hits were crits is because of figment slash. I'd seen two separate videos use the same method and thought it was just adversity
I wanted to do it without any DLC only abilities. Also you don’t want to charm him in case he doesn’t do the Tandava+Summon combo (but I think he’ll do it regardless). Oh and lowering Evasion so Figment Slash connects is important too
This video really highlight why Magic sucks on V. Innana using one of the strongest Ice skills and hitting a weakness: 7132 damage. Loup Garou doing a gimmicky move: 21118
Don't forget there are 2 differences in this fight 1. He's using Figment slash, a phys move that crits, and idk if it's true but crit modifier is higher than hitting weakness in all smt games 2. Loup is using impaler's animus
Yea, but there a couple reasons for the difference. Loup-Garou had Impaler’s Animus, which is 1.8x damage. He also had 2 stages of attack buff while Inanna has 1. And Figment Slash is a low accuracy move, so it makes sense to be stronger than Innana’s normal accuracy one. But yea Phys moves can make use of Critical Zealot more often
@@bainz Oh yea, forgot about atk boost and crit zealot, I wonder if they added a similiar effect for magic spells hitting weakness like Merciless blow from dx2 but have the negative effect of crit zealot
lol people... Magic dealing less damage than phys IN endgame == magic sucks... You are literally forced to use magic skills for stacking press turns the whole span of early-mid game. If magic also deals more damage than phys, there will be literally NO POINT in using phys skills anymore
@@bainz imo the problem is there are no spells like that though. All you can do with spells is set up press turns and pierce. No auto crits with low accuracy etc. The best are spells that double up function like..dark and poison etc.
The Impaler's Glory skill makes your next move do ~3.6x damage and Pierce. Adversity skill at 1 HP makes your whole party do ~3.33x damage. These two stack, making Nahobino do 12x his normal output
@@Condor2481 Yeah, after watching BuffMaister trying to beat Shiva on his low level magic build run, I can agree with your statement. You can definitely speedrun the game with it but it is severely outclassed by the 2 superbosses.
![Shin Megami Tensei 5 - Shiva Boss Fight in 2 Turns w/ Magic Build Nahobino (Hard Mode) [真・女神転生V]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/kR1XYogPrFU/mqdefault.jpg)
Vengeance Note: SMTVV nerfed the amount of Magatsuhi Gauge you get from sacrificing Demons from 30% to 15%. So this strat may not work the exact same now
Really? Shit. Ah well, thats fine because i was thinking of using this strat for the new superbosses... but one of them doesn't reflect anything, and if the othet one does, it wasn't until more then halfway thru the fight lol
I never knew that hitting your own weakness grants you an extra turn. That's actually hilarious.
That happen thanks to the skill safeguard i think.
Yeah, the game takes it as a Weak-strike and it gives an extra turn... I couldn't believe it too when it happened to me yesterday, but I can say that it can be very useful sometimes!
RIGHT??? i'm sitting here wondering why they're bothering using mudo skills on kali when she clearly reflects them, until the second time with danu and i had to sit here and be like 'wait why did the extra turn icon give them an extra turn for dying...' then after it all processed correctly i was just like 'YOU GET AN EXTRA TURN FOR PUTTING WEAKNESS ON YOURSELF???' my mind was absolutely blown into pieces.
@@aldonikollaj495 yes, bainz literally wrote that in the description
but it kinda makes sense cuz you're the one who's hitting that weakness
Dev 1: What should we do for a Magatsuhi Skill?
Dev 2: 100% crit for a turn?
Dev 1: Ok, what else?
Dev 3: A skill that increase damage the lower the HP of party members are?
Dev 2: Wait, isn't that broken?
Dev 1: Who cares, it's not like people will use it turn 2 turn kill all bosses on Hard Mode, right?
Demi-Fiend: *chuckles* I'm in danger
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1 turn Hysterical Slap Demi-fiend, needs a lot of luck though.
@@chronoschord Just for future reference, they use Dream Fist not Hysterical slap.
to be fair, it's good on the devs that they give you all of these options to mess with, it's only an insta-win if you strategise perfectly which is completely fair
I almost did a spit-take of my coffee when I saw the damage Nahobino did on Shiva. Great work on the team building and press turn manipulation, can’t imagine the time it took
Safeguarding an extra press turn out of a demon who will have its weakness reflected back at it to make room for more turns for other party members while also building Magatsuhi is, without question, the most galaxy brain strat I have ever seen in any RPG bar none. Bravo!
I know it's part of the plan but it's still funny watching everyone hang on to 1 HP lol
Selfdestructing your demons is a option as well?
God, the Possibilities are just growing with each day.
Only if they have the ability Safeguard, with that you can prevent losing press turns
“ Always has been “
Devil survivor vs lucifer best option.
@@danielmayonaka8818 Yea I watched the video too.
Kamikaze (the Almighty self nuke the only hits the enemy) in Nocturne actually isnt half bad.
Nahobino is at 50hp what is he going to d-
45k DAMAGE??? 😱😱😱
I saw another guy do this by instead of this, he uses the first turn to buff, then uses adversity, uses murakumo on Nahobino and switches out all other party members to give Nahobino 5 uses of murakumo in one turn
Same
kinda late, but the issue of that is he needed murakumo to crit 5 times.
@@raoulLupinadversity adds the crit modifier to your moves
@@mkazaa no, adversity increases damage the lower your hp is
@@raoulLupin thought I had deleted that comment. I realised the reason all the hits were crits is because of figment slash. I'd seen two separate videos use the same method and thought it was just adversity
Damn, nice job. I’ve seen a few people use the low hp-damage increase strategy. What a high risk and high reward scenario. Genius game design.
Simply ludicrous, well done.
Sir, do not...DO NOT REDEEM Omagatoki: Adversity, DO NOT REDEEM!
45k on Phys Attack made me laugh
Nice video. Always looking forward to your new build.
galaxy brain nahobino, this is why nahobino rightfully deserves to change existence of reality
To be fair, Adversity is just as balanced as is 4 Murakumo's in one turn using the party change exploit lol
Your channel is awesome lol
i may or may not be building strength in vengeance now (it's a canon event)
wouldn't frolic just save 1 press turn over debilitate?
I wanted to do it without any DLC only abilities. Also you don’t want to charm him in case he doesn’t do the Tandava+Summon combo (but I think he’ll do it regardless). Oh and lowering Evasion so Figment Slash connects is important too
Ah yes, Adversity is totally fair and balanced.
That bass piano theme though
why is this a thing. still, looks much easier than getting 5 crits in a row
great vid. could u make an odin build please?
ok... *THA FUCK????*
*VISIBLE ABSOLUTE CONFUSION*
This video really highlight why Magic sucks on V.
Innana using one of the strongest Ice skills and hitting a weakness: 7132 damage.
Loup Garou doing a gimmicky move: 21118
Don't forget there are 2 differences in this fight
1. He's using Figment slash, a phys move that crits, and idk if it's true but crit modifier is higher than hitting weakness in all smt games
2. Loup is using impaler's animus
Yea, but there a couple reasons for the difference. Loup-Garou had Impaler’s Animus, which is 1.8x damage. He also had 2 stages of attack buff while Inanna has 1. And Figment Slash is a low accuracy move, so it makes sense to be stronger than Innana’s normal accuracy one. But yea Phys moves can make use of Critical Zealot more often
@@bainz Oh yea, forgot about atk boost and crit zealot, I wonder if they added a similiar effect for magic spells hitting weakness like Merciless blow from dx2 but have the negative effect of crit zealot
lol people... Magic dealing less damage than phys IN endgame == magic sucks...
You are literally forced to use magic skills for stacking press turns the whole span of early-mid game. If magic also deals more damage than phys, there will be literally NO POINT in using phys skills anymore
@@bainz imo the problem is there are no spells like that though. All you can do with spells is set up press turns and pierce. No auto crits with low accuracy etc. The best are spells that double up function like..dark and poison etc.
Worked for me!!!
Do you have any interest in making Devil Survivor content ever?
This is wild.
Gg but that kills the fun of a hard fight for me. That must have taken some thinking though.
Hi! What’s the outro music? It sounds so neat hehe
It’s from the game, called Da’at Taito theme
@@bainz Thank you!
How did the reflect kill on your demons only cost you half a press turn?
Safeguard passive
@@RinaShinomiyaVal ah that makes sense. I always was wondering about the niche that skill would provide.
@@Joker-nh6dd its not niche, its super common skill if you use abilities with low acuracy. Its actually really nice in general.
Will we see any smtvv content?
Crazy!
Nice, sirlionhart did similar thing, but at level 87,with 58k damage lol
Basically this game's endgame requires you to reverse uno card bosses?
Anyone have info on the Figment Slash location. Is it a demon?
Kali, Odin, Uriel
whats that spreadsheet you use in your fusion guides?
Like in the Alice video? I just copy pasted stuff from here (aqiu384.github.io/megaten-fusion-tool/smt5/skills) onto a sheet
@@bainz tyyy
can i get the build guide for your team
common bainz W
Wait, reflect not consuming all press turns?
Ah, safeguard, of course.
Which demon essence was the Nahobino equipped with?
Trumpeter
damn
ok so you get another turn if enemy rpl your attack. wth is this
It’s another turn bc I hit my own weakness. Not losing turns from repel is due to safeguard
What The Actual Fuck
...WHAT THE FUCK?
How do you get your demons stats up to 140? lol
Incenses
How did you get this much damage? I know it's a phys build, but c'mon
The Impaler's Glory skill makes your next move do ~3.6x damage and Pierce. Adversity skill at 1 HP makes your whole party do ~3.33x damage. These two stack, making Nahobino do 12x his normal output
Magic just sucks at large investment. Is good for speedrunning, but if you try to genuinely dominate the game, then its a joke.
@@bainz how did you prepare before battle? It is really difficult for me to get my Nahobinos health down
Find the Rangda/Girimehkala near Asakusa and hit yourself with a strong Phys move (w/ Endure)
@@Condor2481 Yeah, after watching BuffMaister trying to beat Shiva on his low level magic build run, I can agree with your statement. You can definitely speedrun the game with it but it is severely outclassed by the 2 superbosses.
Smt 5 is a hard game by the way!