SMTV Vengeance Demi-Fiend Boss Fight Quadistu Only
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- I'm not going to lie, I think this video might be pretty divisive. On the one hand, I managed to beat Demi-Fiend with very limited resources. However, I had to resort to over leveling to do it, something I am admittedly not very proud of and in all honesty, I'm kind of nervous to see the reaction. But I still want to upload it because I promised I would and nobody's done anything quite like this before and I wanted to do something to set myself apart.
As for strategy, Demi-Fiend's AI is SHOCKINGLY unchanged from base V. Meaning yes, Repel Cheese will still work for anyone fighting him normally. However that is not an option for us. In order for the strategy to work, you need to have all the Quadistu be null or better to physical and Nahobino resist it. This will cause DF to not spam Freikugel and Chaotic Will (more frequently) and we can bait him with Luminescent Mirage to make him lose his turns, and combined with Elusive Eclipse and Intercalation enables us to retaliate back for roughly 1k-1.2k damage per hit and gain an additional half turn for the next round.
As for the Quadistu, I used Namaah, Agrat, and Lilith (Eisheth is in the stock, she isn't that useful here). Namaah provided support through Luster Candy and Debilitate, as well as having Mudobarion to hit Pixie. Agrat unfortunately had to drop Queen's Decree in favor of Maragibarion to hit Jack Frost and Parvati and Ice Age to hit Cerberus and DF occasionally, and Lilith uses Maziobarion and Mazanbarion to hit Cu Cullain, Giri, and Thor.
This attempt was FAR from perfect and I made several mistakes, including hitting Thor with a Maziobarion that ended my turn, and letting Parvati get a heal off. However, something else happened that I can only describe as... strange...
I somehow skipped Mediarahan without ailments???? I did enough damage to make him use Chaotic Will instead and that apparently overrides Mediarahan??? I think??? I honestly can't explain what happened but I'm glad it did!
But to end this, I want to end this description on a positive note. I challenge anyone watching to beat him with just the Quadistu (or any theme of specific demons) at 99 like intended. On Normal-Hard difficulty, Godborn optional, and @ me the video link. I want to turn something I wish I could have done better into a way for people to share their own unique takes on the fight. After all, I always say at the end of my scripted videos to "like and subscribe to build a community" and this may be the perfect opportunity to do that.
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Hi Everyone, hope you enjoyed the video. I want to stress (especially this time) that while I welcome disagreement, please keep all criticism constructive and respectful.
Your formation is the popularity of the Qadištu members in a nutshell. Naamah and Agrat at the top, Lilith being a close second and Eisheth nowhere to be seen.
@@tomatopawah6877 why is this so true 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I mean, in terms of crit rate, Eisheth could gave Masakado a run for his money because of Qadistu Savagery.
I assume it is because of what Eisheth represents.
Because of course Atlus had to add something along those lines, it's Atlus afterall.
It's a shame since I think Eisheth was done the best and was a great antagonist.
Its ashame because personally shes my second favourite out of the lot. i love her design and her attack animation is wonderful. plus when you have a status on something and she crits her special... holy fuck xD the damage is amazing and whatever doesnt one shot her she just heals it up next turn by attacking because her sustain is fucking solid. plus queens decree + Qadistu savagery is wonderful as you're almost always get at least 1 crit. then while its not that i dont like her, naamah is actually my least favourite. they are all amazing but to me... she's just the least amazing
Poor eisheth in the back like:
“Can I join the fight? I can bring them salvation?… please?”
I wish she could be more useful in this fight but alas 😔
@@jaffinator2166 I want to try this out on the 150 Godborn when I get the chance. I think Eisheth has a niche here with Crit damage and ailment spreading through Namaah's captivation move. She could probably do some insane damage to demifiend and the health she gets back would keep her at full forever. A shame that her hp restore from the move never overflows otherwise she would be a fantastic damage sponge tank.
@@FinalKaiserKami she could probably synch well with Samael, who allows the Quadistu to Pierce if enemy has an ailment
But Sammy technically isn’t a Quadistu sooooo
Demi-Fiend likes everything about his look, so Eisheth can't deal damage to him
I feel like, if someone genuinely is upset that you had to overlevel for something, it's extreme maidenless behavior.
Nice fight. Unfortunately, it wasn't at minimal level, no fusion, no evasion spam, no buffs/debuffs, no DDS remake and not finishing it with Qadistu Entropy. How unfortunate /s
Also not blindfolded with both hands tied behind your back and using the controller with your feet so fight is invalid
@@muddak3292 dang
How about you just stop trolling? The lad is doing this for fun. Dude, the fact that Agrat is there is perfect.
@jlisekai85 Creator is literally fine with it, the issue is where 💀
@@jlisekai85Muddak and I are friends so we’re cool but thanks for the concern!
The Qadištu, especially together, are some of the best demons you can get. When their abilities bounce off each other (Agrat and Eisheth turning the others into crit beast, Naamah's passive accuracy and evasion boost, and Lilith's passive damage reduction), they make for a scary quartet. Their team attack deals a lotnof damage and even heals you a bit too.
Don't worry so much about being divisive for pulling off your strat by being overleveled! Most people at the end of the day just want to see an entertaining video, and your video does just that!
@@stormsand9 thank you so much! I just get worried about stuff like that
4:11 SMT stands for Safeguard megami tensei
Agrat became Captain America in the thumbnail😂
Demi-Fiend: Stand down. Final warning.
Agrat: I can do this all day.
14:20 blud thought he was slick 💀
@@baguettetheweirdguy2529 to be fair, she is
All of his demons can use Mediarahan despite it not showing up in their movelist and the first one to get an action after he falls below 50% will use it, which would be Thor in this case. Elusive Eclipse brought Demi below 50% and Thor got charmed so Mediarahan failed.
This was actually a thing in base SMTV as well. But I think it’s a rare chance of happening, or at least IDK how to trigger it consistently
nah bro beating demi-fiend in of itself is a tough task, even if you are a bit overlevelled!! i just can't believe murakumo was doing so much damage! and i never ever considered using omnipotent succesion then waiting for magatoki critical! you're a genius!
Wow thank you! And I didn’t even have room for Critical Zealot which would have been even more Damage
Oh yeah I told myself that I was gonna use more than just critical when I started vengeance, and you'd be surprised at how many amazing ones there are that don't require setup or anything
Omagatoki: free lets you just use high cost skills like idun's healing without having to heal back her sp, allowing her to boost your squad up to +2 in every stat easily, there's omagatoki: doubler which is basically a more balanced version of omagatoki: critical that makes your turns a lot more efficient (double buffs, double dmg, double healing, etc), and ofc omagatoki: strategize which can salvage games and even work with arahabaki to get super good (and safe since you can swap it out for free) dps on a demon, even if you're not going for otk strategies
You throw away queen's decree? With safeguard, High Almighty Pleroma & Murderous Glee that skill is Deadly bright turn generator
@@Arshenborne in my Agrat guide, I do stress it’s importance. However DF is a very demanding fight that requires absolute perfection to succeed. And Queen’s Decree would have taken away from a skill slot that would be important
@@Arshenborne you’ll be happy to know though I put it right back on afterwards
Damn nahobino pulls all the girls, chad nahobino vs beta male demi fiend
@@tashkasukiwaracontinues this is true!
Are you saying that it's possible for Naoki to be breeded 😦😦😦
💀💀💀
Demi-fiend is loyal to his Pixie he doesn't need a demon harem
@@Gouto-Douji DF's stick would break her entire body like satay
I think Omnipotent Succession single-handedly shortens this fight by like ten minutes
8:25 proof is in the pudding
And for reference, I was baffled by this. Legitimately bamboozled
Those who've played the game probably dont need that, but I'd really appreciate if you didn't skip the animations so I could gaze upon the waifus in their full glory.
Wheres my girl Eisheth!? Jokes aside i don't think i would have used her in this specific fight anyway lol
@@manutdfan231 and that’s exactly why I didn’t. Meaty Phys girl is not great against the king of resistances
@@jaffinator2166 agreed, she wrecked Shivas shit so she got her shine on that fight for me lol
Demi-Chan is doing his signature Respecting Women BEAM in the Thumbnail
40000 damage worth of respect (had this demi fiend been nocturne spec)
Bcoz masakado making him immune to everything except almighty would have been a bit much
Ive Done something similar but my strat was spamming the qadistu entropy skill constantly with evergreen dance supporting it. I dont have access to recording sofware so youd have to take my word for it, but its very good in this fight, what with the high chance of charm and healing. Also I have no way of proving this but it really does feel like pleromas affect its damage, aka agrat was the main user.
Samael flying around in the background throwing a tantrum
My poor girl Eisheth. Atleast she's there in spirit 😔
I thought you were gonna accidentally use Mother Earth and get hit by gaea rage. Lilith passive at least worked good here.
@@brenden7245 oh very much so. And also. If you don’t have room for Luminescent Mirahe, Mother Earth is a great substitute.
But yeah it’s only Tetrakarn/Makarakarn that trigger Gaea Rage. Phys Block is fine
The aroace boy and his yuri polycule friends defeat the aroace fiend
Too bad you couldn't get Samael in here, his innate is great with the four of them
Surprised at no attempt to finish with Qadistu Entropy
@@baxterbruce9827 My apologies 😭
@@jaffinator2166 No worries, although did you notice they actually made Demi-Fiend harder in this version?
You left out the best one 🫠
Unfortunately but she’s not built for this fight 😭
@jaffinator2166 True, a phys glass cannon isn't going to do to much
Still don't understand why demi fiend keep spam javalin rain on my run. While other I saw only use deadly fury.
This made my run much harder.
All my demon have resist phys
@@SnailBot because nobody on your team nullified physical. He has 3 attack modes based on physical resistance
1. Everyone Resists = Spam Javelin Rain
2. At least one person nulls- Spam Deadly Fury
3. Everyone Null- Spam Freikugel and use Chaotic Will more frequently
@@jaffinator2166 Ohhhhhh, Thank a lot, So I must bring at least 1 Null to the team.
Is elusive eclipse worth using over crit aura? Feel like it might be better to spam that with omnipotent succession
@@monadoboy1887 Yes because it’s free additional damage with Mirage. And you’re GOING to want to spam Mirage at every possible chance
@@jaffinator2166 I guess I can get it, just free passive damage
I know demi fiend can get blocked with mute but I didn’t know he could be blocked with charm too. Wish I was able to get my black rider to proc a soul divide on a mediaharan turn as his chances for mute is not half bad against demi fiend and is probably the only reliable source for muting demi fiend aside from Zeus’s madness glint
@@rift3487 back in base V the only reason I won my first ever win was that Zeus got a lucky seal off Madness Glint
@@jaffinator2166 wish vengeance added multiple saves for demons. I really want to make a madness glint Zeus build and see its proc rate under an amped up omagotaki dance. I probably won’t use this build much because black rider’s my muteman but it’d be cool to see a build like that in action against a demon like masakados or something
Didn't know you could stack omnipotent succession and critical like that
@@Snowie134 yup. And you can also stack critical with other Magatsuhi skills like Adversity but it requires a LOT of setup
@@jaffinator2166 dang that's good to know. Do you have a Satan Boss Battle guide? I didn't fight him the first time I did CoV 😭. Then I did CoC and saw that he was a CoV exclusive. I did beat Masakado and Truecifer tho.
Does he not go for mediarahan at half health anymore?
@@mroogway6951 no he does. And TBH, I am completely baffled. Everyone I have shown this too was completely baffled
I think it could be the charm halfway through that stopped mediarahan from popping? I have no other explanation at the moment other than that…
Late to the party but Demi-Fiend is only scripted to use Mediarahan ONCE during the fight, and he was charmed during his turn to use it; tested it a few sperate times. Sealing/Charming right after he hits under 50% will skip it for the fight.
@@KitsuneSlayerPCRight, I’m aware of that from experience with the original, but i was curious because (unless i misread/misunderstood something in your comment) you can see at about 9:00 that demi fiend is no longer charmed once he gets to the below 50% hp threshold. My guess is that maybe vengeance tweaked his ai to not always go for it? I know from messing around on safety mode in the original that he would always prioritize healing, but here he took two actions and didn’t do so
Sorry but can you explain how do you get 5th action right the start of turn?
The skill is called Intercalation. It’s unlocked on the second essence of the new form and grants an additional turn every time Bino dodges
Aka "Four polyamourous lesbians and their nonbinary hypeman beat the shit out of an angry shirtless guy for just over 10 minutes"
Basically yes 😂
Cap.
Haven't done this yet but wouldn't Megidolaon be better on Agrat ?
@@HungryTaco34 for this specific fight. No. Megidolaon can crit thanks to her trait but it’s not as consistent as hitting a weakness. But if you want to use Almighty, just use Queen’s Decree because while it is random target, its crit rate is shockingly high.
Why was the Demi fiend weakened? He supposed to nullify everything.
@@JamesJones-mt9co when you get his essence, he does indeed null everything. But for his boss fight he just resists everything. I guess it’s so we could have a fighting chance
@@jaffinator2166 so I started off with SMT five and then played SMT three I find it to be disrespectful to weaken the Demi when in the original SMT five there is a there is a strategy to take him down on a one turn and I use that strategy what I don’t understand about people is that they complain about the game is not being hard enough,
Bro wtf is that 4:13
@@HispachioZ well… it killed Giri, didn’t it 😅
Eisheth: nahobino why I'm not going in a fight you better explain me or else use my move
@@dantebloomber395
Nahobino: “Sorry Eisheth, but you need an extra turn to set up to deal any meaningful damage to him”
@jaffinator2166Eisheth: What you are saying is I'm weak and useless damaged. Do you think I'm useless!?
Nahobino: ummm
Eisheth: it's not fair why she has a good damage but I'm not?
Too bad the other two Qadistu kinda suck
@@kingkobra4910 Yeah Eisheth is just another physical attacker and Sammy Boi (who actually isn’t technically classified as a Quadistu) also has nothing special going for him.
Build? Nice vid
@@kilianfitzgerald5899 I show builds at the end of the video