That’s what I’ve been doing and usually I’m somewhat close to what you would call the official positions but does anybody know if there’s a downside or anything because it’s just easier to do it based on where they are tuned
@@3OrMoreBones Bb usually tends to be a little bit of a raised 5th, though every horn and player is different and only god knows where 5th position is so generally speaking 5th position keeps me up at night lol
@@unbuiltprune9678 for a week straight, when warming up with long tones, everytime i hit a High Bb, i'd treat it as a half note and hit the 5th position and tune it to 1st.
Paul thank you for posting your videos are great and we share a very similar sense of humor. LOL. My master instruments are the guitar in the cello and after my career as a performing musician for 20 years, I've been teaching private music instruction for 23 years. I've always believed that as a teacher besides learning all that we can continue to learn, that is so important to be a beginner at an instrument. In this case my new beginner instrument is the trombone which adds up to 21 instruments that I play. This way my students can identify with me in the fact that not only can I sympathize but jokingly I can pull out my newest instrument and say here's what I suck at. LOL. They get a laugh and a lot of comfort out of that. So years go by and I'm no longer a beginner on my empathetic instrument. I have to say I'm falling in love with the trombone, it's becoming my favorite brass instrument. You are an amazing teacher you probably already have a good career, and I would dare say that you have an amazing career ahead of you to look forward to. We need more young teachers like you, your video was comprehensive, easy to understand, and the banana spin is it true art form, LOL. Keep on keeping on. Thanks again.
I remember sitting in my high school band room with a tuner looking for slide positions. Being a bassoon play when I joined jazz band we had a lot of saxophone players, so my music teacher asked if I wanted to play bass trombone. Now that I am out of school I play pretty much nothing but bass trombone.
Thank you for sharing this I just picked up my horn after 20 years not playing it. Good tips my instructor taught me those as well but it is a good refresher.
I'm from Florida...took up the Trombone for a crazy reason but I'm committed to learning now. I appreciate your videos. Just got your beginner book too :)
Hello Paul, thanks for the explanation I'm gonna give it a try. In my jonger day I played a piston trombone and now trying to play a real one :) Greets from the Netherlands
Thanks a lot! Ive just now moved from trumpet to tromebone and i cant figure out the slides. After only a few hours of having it i have a pretty good sound!
I found a trombone in a guitar center, and as a long time trumpet player, I had to try it. Found this video when looking for a crash course on positions! ^u^
Hi there. I thank you for this video. got a PBone yesterday. looking for basics stuffs to start with ! you video is efficient, simple, pleasant to watch. good job ! I play clarinet et saxo, but brass is another story !! To learn with your channel is going to be fun ! thanks. Vero from France
I am just getting into trombone and really want to flex my ability as a drummer to play an instrument with notes and scales, also I want to flex it to my friend who actually plays trombone
When I was studying for my B.M.E., in Brass Methods class we learned there are +/-51 slide positions. We didn't discuss bass trombone, which I now play. At the time, I was a trumpet major. In 1991 I decided to change camps and took trombone lessons, so I asked my teacher. He said "There are ZERO positions. There are just notes played well in tune." Now after a couple decades having played Baroque trumpet and learning to lip notes all over the place with no reduction in tone colour or intensity, I often astounded him, as it seemed this ability transferred to the trombone. So he'd often comment: "You sounded great, but I don't have a clue how? Your slide was nowhere near where it should have e been." And I replied: "But you always say, there are no positions, just notes played well in tune." So he wouldn't have said "1-2, 1-3, 1-4, 1-5, 1-6, 1-7." He would have simply said: "f-e,f-e-flat, f-d, f-d-flat. f-c, f-b"
Thanks for this video. I am trying to help my son practice at home. I am a woodwind (flute/piccolo) player and this instrument is a whole “magical mystery” to me 🤔🤭 but this video has helped me understand the ways of the slide so I can hopefully help him. New sub.
The figure shown at 1:30 is wildly misleading. The distance between position 2 and 3 is somewhat longer than between 1 and 2. Likewise, the distance between position 3 and 4 is somewhat longer than between 2 and 3. The same holds all the way. The distance between each position becomes larger the the further out you are.
Hiii there! As an older millennial who hasn't picked up an instrument since 2004, I appreciate your videos while I try my best to help my teen gain an interest in band! Times do be tough, thank God for UA-cam. 😊 ❤❤ bless you friend. I'll be back for more to help guide my kid as best I can!
I'm Michael from Portland, Oregon! I'm a euphonium player who would like to learn trombone, but I've always stayed away from it because of how many trombone-euphonium doublers harshen their euphonium sound into a sort of trombony quality. I don't want to change my euphonium sound, and I'm worried that getting used to slide tonguing and the less air pressure would affect my euphonium playing.
Maybe you can try a valved trombone! Yes its a legit instrument, anyone who makes fun of it "Oh its not a real trombone no slide blah blah" can go to hell 😂 while a euphonium is on that conical bore status the valved trombone takes the cylindrical bored trombone but instead of the slide you got 3 valves. Yes you wont have a slide so no glissando, ever (unless you reallllyyyyy work your lips and half valve technique, but even then it cant be the same thing). But you can stick to the same valve fingerings for both and just have to worry about the tone and air pressure.
I also play a bass trumpet in a military band, which is very similar to a valve trombone or marching baritone, and my secondary instrument is trumpet. I'm not so concerned about the cylindrical bore. I'm concerned about how much less resistance there is on a trombone (valves add a lot of resistance to the flow), and I'm concerned about legato tonguing (for slide technique) making it's way into my euphonium playing.
Dustin here from Galveston. TX... So, I haven't played in almost 20 years but I came across a community band (no auditions) and I want to start playing again. I'm sure there's no quick way to "relearn" but I have a feeling that it will come back to me quickly. My biggest challenge, I feel, will be reading music. Aahhh!! I do sing tenor (bass clef) but it's all by ear. Any suggestions on books, online practice sites or apps?
Hi from West Berkshire, England. I'm inspired to learn how to play the trombone because my favourite Cuban salsa band, Orquesta Anacaona, has a very cute trombonista! What is the most suitable beginner trombone to get for a complete newbie who has never played a brass instrument before??
My advice would be to get a very basic inexpensive small-bore tenor trombone, whether new or used. The only thing that really matters at this point is that the slide moves smoothly without any sticking points. If you're still playing in a year or two you will have a better idea what specific upgrades you might want depending on what type of music you play, for example small bore vs large bore, thumb valve(s) to engage extra tubing vs no thumb valves, etc.
@@sarco64 Hi, thank you for getting back to me. I found a trombone teacher, and he loaned me his spare instrument, a Holton TR100. I started learning on that instrument, until I recently purchased my own, the Yamaha student trombone (YSL354). I've now been learning for nearly 9 weeks.
Is there a video where you show us the positions for a basic major scale like F? This is holding me up because each position has several notes and I don’t hear a pattern yet to play different scales.
I play baritone for my jazz band but there is a higher level jazz band and they only except trombones and the teacher has a free trombone for me so I’m going to switch for that band
I'm 53 & haven't played trombone since high school. one is being delivered today! I've been watching ALOT of trombone tutorials all week. yours have been to most helpful. I just wanted to let you know. hey. does anyone else not want to go to a football game if they can't bring their trombone into the stands?!?
Here’s a very depressing fact I still haven’t got my trombone fixed sounds beautiful and plays well it just has a bad dent on the tuning slide which alters where the slide positions go.
this is just the way the trombone lays. Its slightly different depending on the different partials but generally speaking this is how its mapped in my mind
The claim that 1st position should be all the way in, can be debated. Does it really make sense to smash the slide all the way in, resulting in a shock for your lips and teeth?
Silly Paul, only God knows where 5th position is
Lmao
LMAO bruv
lol
True
Best comment ever
I’ve learned that trombone position depends on where each note sounds in tune
And that depends on the day, the temperature of the room, and a few other factors
Yep! But this is a framework to have an idea of where to build upon
its a scale forever never changes
That’s what I’ve been doing and usually I’m somewhat close to what you would call the official positions but does anybody know if there’s a downside or anything because it’s just easier to do it based on where they are tuned
To this day I still don’t know where 5th position is
Wherever high Bb is in 5th.
@@3OrMoreBones Bb usually tends to be a little bit of a raised 5th, though every horn and player is different and only god knows where 5th position is so generally speaking 5th position keeps me up at night lol
@@unbuiltprune9678 for a week straight, when warming up with long tones, everytime i hit a High Bb, i'd treat it as a half note and hit the 5th position and tune it to 1st.
Bruh
Lmao same
I’m only here because I forgot everything over summer break 😎
55555555 me too
SAMEE
Yep
Same
Same lol
Paul thank you for posting your videos are great and we share a very similar sense of humor. LOL. My master instruments are the guitar in the cello and after my career as a performing musician for 20 years, I've been teaching private music instruction for 23 years. I've always believed that as a teacher besides learning all that we can continue to learn, that is so important to be a beginner at an instrument. In this case my new beginner instrument is the trombone which adds up to 21 instruments that I play. This way my students can identify with me in the fact that not only can I sympathize but jokingly I can pull out my newest instrument and say here's what I suck at. LOL. They get a laugh and a lot of comfort out of that. So years go by and I'm no longer a beginner on my empathetic instrument. I have to say I'm falling in love with the trombone, it's becoming my favorite brass instrument. You are an amazing teacher you probably already have a good career, and I would dare say that you have an amazing career ahead of you to look forward to. We need more young teachers like you, your video was comprehensive, easy to understand, and the banana spin is it true art form, LOL. Keep on keeping on. Thanks again.
I remember sitting in my high school band room with a tuner looking for slide positions. Being a bassoon play when I joined jazz band we had a lot of saxophone players, so my music teacher asked if I wanted to play bass trombone. Now that I am out of school I play pretty much nothing but bass trombone.
Thank you for sharing this I just picked up my horn after 20 years not playing it. Good tips my instructor taught me those as well but it is a good refresher.
Some good old nostalgia from when I use to play trombone in middle school. this is awesome
Dude, I can’t tell you how nice that was to play with someone for the first time on trombone
I'm from Florida...took up the Trombone for a crazy reason but I'm committed to learning now. I appreciate your videos. Just got your beginner book too :)
Thanks for the message! Welcome to the fam
Hello Paul, thanks for the explanation I'm gonna give it a try. In my jonger day I played a piston trombone and now trying to play a real one :) Greets from the Netherlands
This is exactly where I needed to start. Thanks!
Thanks a lot! Ive just now moved from trumpet to tromebone and i cant figure out the slides. After only a few hours of having it i have a pretty good sound!
I just started watching your videos today and i really like them
Worst chair spin with a banana ever!
I just got a soprano trombone as a gift today.
Thanks for helping me to get started.
I found a trombone in a guitar center, and as a long time trumpet player, I had to try it. Found this video when looking for a crash course on positions! ^u^
Hey, Paul just found you today, May 2020. My son is a young player and this video is SUPER helpful !!!!!! Please make more!!!
I play a euphonium and I’m learning trombone
Literally me right now lol.
Same
I'm from Canada and your video was very helpful as I have only just received my trombone from school today and I'm playing in a school band
Oh a another mha fan
@@--Neptune-- Yes.
It's like trombone heaven in there
My band director told me after my jazz concert that I should learn slide (I play valve trombone) and I’m hoping this helps me with slide positions
Hi there. I thank you for this video. got a PBone yesterday. looking for basics stuffs to start with ! you video is efficient, simple, pleasant to watch. good job ! I play clarinet et saxo, but brass is another story !! To learn with your channel is going to be fun ! thanks. Vero from France
Nottinghamshire Uk. Following my Dad after 30 odd years
I am just getting into trombone and really want to flex my ability as a drummer to play an instrument with notes and scales, also I want to flex it to my friend who actually plays trombone
Would be great to have a sheet with the slide positions on the notes and we can practice with you
This really helped me with my physics homework 😜 thank you ❣️
I want to know how that played out for you 😆
@@ArieHatesUA-camHandles I don't remember... Probably good.
What a shame there is only 829 likes. It's good video! Thank you.
Thank you too!
When I was studying for my B.M.E., in Brass Methods class we learned there are +/-51 slide positions. We didn't discuss bass trombone, which I now play. At the time, I was a trumpet major.
In 1991 I decided to change camps and took trombone lessons, so I asked my teacher. He said "There are ZERO positions. There are just notes played well in tune." Now after a couple decades having played Baroque trumpet and learning to lip notes all over the place with no reduction in tone colour or intensity, I often astounded him, as it seemed this ability transferred to the trombone. So he'd often comment: "You sounded great, but I don't have a clue how? Your slide was nowhere near where it should have e been." And I replied: "But you always say, there are no positions, just notes played well in tune."
So he wouldn't have said "1-2, 1-3, 1-4, 1-5, 1-6, 1-7." He would have simply said: "f-e,f-e-flat, f-d, f-d-flat. f-c, f-b"
Love your videos viewing from Trinidad and Tobago.
Coweta Oklahoma, I've been playing trumpet for 4 years and I wanted to explore the other brass instruments, and might I say, I'm enjoying myself
i am new to trombone and i know every note except for the note from 5th and 7th position. We are soon having a performance.
Thanks for the help! It's kind of difficult to learn how to play trombone when you are used to mellophone and french horn lol
This helped a lot
Thanks for this video. I am trying to help my son practice at home. I am a woodwind (flute/piccolo) player and this instrument is a whole “magical mystery” to me 🤔🤭 but this video has helped me understand the ways of the slide so I can hopefully help him. New sub.
the banana part was hilarious 😂😂
i'm a sax and trumpet player and i had no idea how the trombone player knew where to put the slide.
Bro is built different he knows where 5th position in is.
Thx for this video I play trombone my self and this really helps
4:34
Same exercise my chorus teacher had us use to memorize solfege and pitches
Alright boys third instrument time to start learning!
One main tool for finding the positions is of course a tuner. There are several very good free tuner apps available for smartphones.
This helped a lot, thanks
The figure shown at 1:30 is wildly misleading. The distance between position 2 and 3 is somewhat longer than between 1 and 2. Likewise, the distance between position 3 and 4 is somewhat longer than between 2 and 3. The same holds all the way. The distance between each position becomes larger the the further out you are.
Hiii there! As an older millennial who hasn't picked up an instrument since 2004, I appreciate your videos while I try my best to help my teen gain an interest in band! Times do be tough, thank God for UA-cam. 😊 ❤❤ bless you friend. I'll be back for more to help guide my kid as best I can!
Thank you This helps a lot!!!
COOL STUFF! 😂
A must!
how do you play -3 position?
I'm Michael from Portland, Oregon! I'm a euphonium player who would like to learn trombone, but I've always stayed away from it because of how many trombone-euphonium doublers harshen their euphonium sound into a sort of trombony quality. I don't want to change my euphonium sound, and I'm worried that getting used to slide tonguing and the less air pressure would affect my euphonium playing.
Maybe you can try a valved trombone! Yes its a legit instrument, anyone who makes fun of it "Oh its not a real trombone no slide blah blah" can go to hell 😂 while a euphonium is on that conical bore status the valved trombone takes the cylindrical bored trombone but instead of the slide you got 3 valves. Yes you wont have a slide so no glissando, ever (unless you reallllyyyyy work your lips and half valve technique, but even then it cant be the same thing). But you can stick to the same valve fingerings for both and just have to worry about the tone and air pressure.
I also play a bass trumpet in a military band, which is very similar to a valve trombone or marching baritone, and my secondary instrument is trumpet. I'm not so concerned about the cylindrical bore. I'm concerned about how much less resistance there is on a trombone (valves add a lot of resistance to the flow), and I'm concerned about legato tonguing (for slide technique) making it's way into my euphonium playing.
Dustin here from Galveston. TX... So, I haven't played in almost 20 years but I came across a community band (no auditions) and I want to start playing again. I'm sure there's no quick way to "relearn" but I have a feeling that it will come back to me quickly. My biggest challenge, I feel, will be reading music. Aahhh!! I do sing tenor (bass clef) but it's all by ear. Any suggestions on books, online practice sites or apps?
Make a video playing the Key C scale
I want to play basic bass riffs. Are there standard positions for this or make them up?
Hi from West Berkshire, England. I'm inspired to learn how to play the trombone because my favourite Cuban salsa band, Orquesta Anacaona, has a very cute trombonista! What is the most suitable beginner trombone to get for a complete newbie who has never played a brass instrument before??
My advice would be to get a very basic inexpensive small-bore tenor trombone, whether new or used. The only thing that really matters at this point is that the slide moves smoothly without any sticking points. If you're still playing in a year or two you will have a better idea what specific upgrades you might want depending on what type of music you play, for example small bore vs large bore, thumb valve(s) to engage extra tubing vs no thumb valves, etc.
@@sarco64 Hi, thank you for getting back to me. I found a trombone teacher, and he loaned me his spare instrument, a Holton TR100. I started learning on that instrument, until I recently purchased my own, the Yamaha student trombone (YSL354). I've now been learning for nearly 9 weeks.
How hard is it to hit the hiest position and how do you do it
Is there a video where you show us the positions for a basic major scale like F? This is holding me up because each position has several notes and I don’t hear a pattern yet to play different scales.
Thank you.
I play baritone for my jazz band but there is a higher level jazz band and they only except trombones and the teacher has a free trombone for me so I’m going to switch for that band
I'm 53 & haven't played trombone since high school. one is being delivered today! I've been watching ALOT of trombone tutorials all week. yours have been to most helpful. I just wanted to let you know. hey. does anyone else not want to go to a football game if they can't bring their trombone into the stands?!?
I know you already made one before, but you should make a video on improvisation.
Thanks ima 5th grader I have a trombone u made learn hot Cross buns easily
I am gonna need to work on others tho
5th position takes me like 2 minutes to find
Here’s a very depressing fact I still haven’t got my trombone fixed sounds beautiful and plays well it just has a bad dent on the tuning slide which alters where the slide positions go.
Forgot everything over summer break😂😭
What type of trombone are you playing?
I’m in 8th grade band and lemme tell ya, the trombone is a very difficult instrument to play. 😂
I just saw an ad of him before watching the video
Love your videos, very helpful ! Have you ever tried the yamaha SB5X silent brass ? If yes what do you think about it ?
I have not tried it yet! I have an old model from the 90s
My arm is too short i can't reach 7th position
Thanks
How do you say -3? Minus 3? Negative 3?
Yay slides
I wanna see the first octave.
yay!!
I feel bad for eastern music with trombones, they have 14 positions to deal with.
I'm sorry???
😂
Why did they make g so close to e
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Why are there big gaps between 2, 3 and 5, 6? Shouldn't the gaps get slightly bigger as you go down instead of getting bigger at just 2 random spots?
this is just the way the trombone lays. Its slightly different depending on the different partials but generally speaking this is how its mapped in my mind
The claim that 1st position should be all the way in, can be debated. Does it really make sense to smash the slide all the way in, resulting in a shock for your lips and teeth?
how many fingers you hold the slide? 2 or 4
2 fingers and a thumb.
Paul the tromboner
welcome to kindergarten
Did he just play the intro to the shining?
I always mistaken 5th position for 6th position
Hey brother. I sent you a question on FB
I love you
sometimes when you have the right position but noooo your band director says different when ive played this instrument for four years ughhhhhh
HAlo saya dari indonesia
Danao toba
I’m in band for middle school and I was playing wrong notes the whole entire time
One that was not even a special n tow what was the point in that we want to know the positions more than that
anybody know how to play a b natural?
Low (near the bottom of the staff) is 7th. High (at the top of the staff) is 4th.
@@sarco64 yeah i figured that out. but tysm
You forgot about 8th position
Hey im from Nassau The Bahamasand I play the Trombone realy like to get the sound Guide but i dont have credit card so yh
my left ear is lonely
muscle memory doesn’t exist
According to neuroscientists (and everyday experience) it definitely does.
So, trombones are like violins of the brass instruments world.
1st
2nd
Y just y
Work your lower register and stop shaking like hell when you move your slide
j Kara cold
Great job bro you broke it down
HE DIDN'T SPIN ON THE CHAIR WITH A BANANA! BAD VIDEO.