Although I'm only 12 years old, I've been fascinated with the color and poetry of the universe we call science. I love astronomy, neurology, physics (quantum, astro, neuro, meta) an basically science. I couldn't watch all of this, but it's just so beautiful, so I thank you for posting this pure video of nature and essentially the color of the universe.
Awesome, good for you! May you follow & achieve your most marvelous dreams! I hope you also give yourself lots of time to play & enjoy time with fun friends, to eat and sleep well -- and to study science, philosophy, art, color, beauty, truth, happiness, and all that really matters most from the best source of all -- life, nature, and Reality :) Greetings frim the Andes mountains for you, young scholar prince/ess. 🙂🐆🦊🦜🙏
To all complaining it's not pure science. You are right, when talking about Consciousness u need more a philosophical than a scientific attitude. Consciousness is beyound science' grasp.
Excellent!! That was the whole point of my 2001 theories and my 2003 book from my presentations. Consciousness as primary natural law. That was the title of my poster. I taught experimental methodology and so I made a new statistical hybrid methodology for seeing it working and someone actually did the research a few years later and it was among the most significant results ever found by science. But no one understood the questions it answered back then. Now everything has changed and it is amazing!! People still don’t see the full implications but we are getting there. 🥰🙏🏻👍🏻🌹
I feel like Consciousness is all there is and IT came into this body as the egg and sperm joined together their Consciousness to become One human physical being, this Being....my physical self. But really, I AM only Consciousness inhabiting this physical form called a body. Consciousness is animating this body as I listen closely and wait for IT's guidance. IT is beating my heart, breathing my lungs and animating/guiding bacteria to digest the food I eat. I AM only IT in this physical body...simple to this Being....
This video seems like a summary of all theory of consciousness, however there's 1 missing: an idea that consciousness is an 'error-correction' mechanism for all type of complex mobile/motile animal, such as cats, rats, birds and human. The idea is; if sub-conscious perform all the low-level planning of limb & body movement to interact with physical world, like for something as simple as walking, our consciousness then act as observer to measure error between intention/plan with its outcome, thus allow learning & correction. Those mechanism cannot work without a complete 'replication' of our body senses & perception of physical world in our brain, thus when that happen "conscious" existed.
Your assertion that those mechanisms cannot work without a complete replication, etc., does not ring true. One basic concept in the design of systems is exception-handling, where an exception or error may pass only a piece of information describing the exception or error. The information may include arbitrary amount of detail, but in no sense does it require a complete replication of the system.
@@DavidMichaelKalman the programmers of those system have a mental model of the software's behaviour, so when an 'exceptional-event' occurs the programmer refer back to his mental model and implement a "bug fixes" to return the system to normal behaviour. In this case the software don't have a consciousness of its own but outsourced the image of its own body to the programmers. ("Exception" is a condition in a software where it encounters error which the programmer didn't expect, like for example requesting a file but the file didn't exist and the programmer didn't code a system to handle it, so it typically handle it on its own by simply "throwing" error to user as alternate mean of handling the situation and proceed with crashing or continues operating with glitchy & aberrant behaviour),
@@xponen I think we mostly agree that the observation of the systems and the ability to plan and predict, etc., are the factors that create consciousness... I would still insist that our mental map is not a complete replication, but possibly a highly condensed/compressed and inherently incomplete picture.
@@sguraya7223 animals are aware and use instincts We have a choice to use our instincts or we can overwrite our instincts with consciousness which animals cannot. Consciousness and awareness are two separate things We are not conscious all day long but we are aware all day long about ourselves as conscious beings. Not all people are even conscious yet but they are aware of their surroundings and pain but this is not consciousness, it doesn't rise to the level of consciousness. Awareness in a human is a precursor to becoming conscious but they are separate things and not entertwined They do complement and work together in those who have gained consciousness though
@@galenflynn398 you are conflating "awareness" with self-consciousness. and we are indeed conscious all day long. if anything, the consistent awareness of the conscious effect is what we do not experience all day long.
Incredible. We have some geniuses in these comments who are so perceptive that they don't even need to hear the conclusion to the proposal to know that it's wrong. Since I'm not psychic I'll have to wait until the end of the next video before I pass judgement. If only I knew everything like some of you.
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+JrIcify It's too bad that you have to sit through three and a half hours of lecture to determine whether there is a physiological fundament to consciousness; but, that's no reason to get annoyed with those of us who don't. With all of the things in your daily life that do not depend on materialism to be true, why is it so hard to understand that your consciousness is also one of them? Example: How is information transmitted over a cell phone if everything requires a proximity that allows direct physical contact or electrical arching? What are the physical characteristics of the fundamental forces in the Universe? Yet, you think the most sophisticated thing, in the whole Universe, needs a piece of meat in order to exist?
Wow! Take a break after 40 minutes. What a clear story and so far everything is clear to me. This is exactly what I have discovered regarding processes in the mind, identifications and ego and awareness and consciousness. I've always had a bit of a problem with "teachers" who deny everything but pure consciousness. Of course we are essentially pure consciousness (the Self), but also including the rest of the body and mind. See a picture of Ramana, that is not a picture of consciousness, but a picture of a human being. I am not only pure consciousness, but also a manifestation with body and mind.
But I understand very well the "sacred trinity": the observer, the perceiving and the observed. The observer (without the interference of the mind, etc.) is pure consciousness, the observed (by the "pure observer) is consciousness. Then can it is not otherwise that perceiving through the consciousness of consciousness is consciousness.((I suspect the google translation could be better))
just an fyi: in the opening, when Dr Nader goes through his recap around the 2 minute mark, the subtitles suggest what he is saying to be: light motive its more likely to have been the German Leitmotiv, a term used to describe the major, recurring theme around which everything else gravitates, a term more commonly found in musictheory. thanks for making this available Greetings from Germany
01:31:20 Children are not less conscious, they are more conscious, they are less cognitive. Developing Rationality is a powerful tool in our evolution, but it is something different, than the deep realms of consciousness. People should be thought in school how to explore their consciousness, than they would also understand better the processes of cognition. The would be able to be the observer of the pre-conscious, before language, symbols and pictures. In comparison to the universal consciousness our limited ratio is primitive. The consciousness of the older beings on the planets is higher and not lower than ours, as long as we are no longer in the conscious state and mix reality with our rational concepts, we won't be able to look "animals" with dignity in to the eyes and connect with plants and other life forms that spring out of the unified field of consciousness.
Now perceive the consciousness of professor as he saying, "as you wake up & to go to work". He didn't say, "As you wake up to meditate before you go to work", so we know where he's at. In super consciousness we know this is why reason is greater than the teacher.
So strange knowing people are shitting on this lecture, saying it's just "pseudoscience malarkey" when 1) consciousness is something that can't easily be explained by science, otherwise we'd have some concrete answers by now. And 2) every thought and idea is valuable in some way. Even if you dont agree with it, you can form your own opinion based off of it, or other studies can be done based on questions one person raised. Nothing in the pursuit of knowledge is wrong. Anyone watching and not getting that from it at least probably have no business pursuing knowledge to begin with.
the most important is to realise with every sp;eaker, -and very hard too- , what is it that we know, what is it we think we know, and what is the interpretation of the data of the speaker (opinion). that way you can discard or at least be critical of the opinions, but realise the information and use it to formulate your own thoughts.
Alex Leyva Well, it is the same university that trained scientists like Richard Alpert who was later expelled from Harvard for pushing the research on LSD and giving "consciousness-expanding" drugs to an undergraduate... However your "argument" is somewhat illogical. It implicates that if I do a guestlecture at Stanford I am automatically speak scientific "truth". Is that an opinion you hold?
No it is not. My guess was that Stanford would statistically be more likely to have a more educated and successful mind presenting at their school than another school. I think it's reasonable to believe that people who have come through the Stanford system, especially in the STEM fields have an exceptional education as do other very reputable universities such as Caltech, MIT and Berkeley. So do I believe just because your talking at a respected school means I should listen to you? No, of course not. In fact I would not listen to anybody on any platform with a position of unquestionable acceptance. This case is very special. The man is speaking about a new emerging paradigm of thinking. A field of research which is getting tons of looks at by all the cutting edge minds in Science, hence, Stanford. It's actually a really fascinating topic. Which ties together nonlinear dynamics with the Newtonian paradigm. Cheers :)
compassion for differences is ok. homo sapiens operate at different stages of consciousness(cs). as one evolves thru stages, there is greater perspectives and understanding. once beyond the linear 3D causal, we can experience a way of being that resonates with love/peace and begin experiencing nonlinear, multi-dimensional ways of being. so, some of us listening to these lectures will not get the full messages and that's ok. ultimately, it's all perfect. when one is ready, the appropriate message arrives, and we get it. being open to "hearing" different conceptual streams may be helpful for expansion of cs. anyway, relax and enjoy life and have fun.
So life is in process,we know what serves, Is death a transitory phase with e mystery a different story? One trough centuries is obtaining more awareness as ones searches and tries to put into perspective th
This is actually great as Spiritual path. like Buddhisms or Zoroastrian state. A time Gap bubble accessible one can enter only through Gates of feelings that are purely there but not addressed if not addressed. the cognitive State of clear conscious.
Don't you worry NO ONE is making anything of me... I AM!! I'm a little slow at doing things and may not be as detailed and/or as clever as most but, i am who i am and what i am. There is an existence before you came into this life and there will be one after buddy. You'll see and if u start thinking clearly u might start remembering too.
So if consciousness isn't self awareness, that is just a biproduct of our physical world, then does everything have a consciousness? Do you have to be aware of who, what, where you are in order to be considered conscious? I'm a little confused in this matter.
The answer to the "hard problem" is that one who is conscious, is one who has beliefs. A worm has consciousness because it has beliefs such as that if it eats the soil it will appease the feeling of hunger. A robin has consciousness because it has beliefs such as that eating a worm and building a nest will appease instinctual feelings. A human has consciousness because it has beliefs such as the belief that if it opens its eyes, it will see the place surrounding where it is, and the belief that what it sees, hears, feels, tastes, touches, thinks, and believes, is somehow real.
i have Dissociative identity disorder.....this was fascinating ..try explain my particular consciousness...maybe im in many universe at once lol...makes sense to me
Your everyday focus bounces between female and masculine energy, positive and negative, warm emotions and cold thinking. Each having its own habbitual way of behaving. Observe your thoughts and routine and the way these sync and correlates. Observing is conscious attention focused inward. Scale up your awareness to the point where you can easily observe your behaviour in a given context. If this infers with your home/family life, think about the routine you follow regarding your closed ones. The power of observation is the supreme/divine power one can use to clearly understand what's happening. This implies a masculine, negative, cold thinking process as it requires stillness, rewiring neuronal pathways instead of wasting energy contracting muscles or overuse other internal organs. Remember you're pure energy materialized that is still and alive at the same time. I hope this helps you and I wish you all the best!
Is there any negativity ? Dont be so impressed by a Phd . He has presented the stuff clear and articulate thats great. What i think must be taken into account is all the personal experiences out there. You can not read everything in books. Investigation recent years in NDE is the new "Copernican turn" There is something out there- and there is something within -and this is a glimpse of what is ......consciousness. His conclusions so far is to deal with. The answer on the problem of the self is -reincarnation
They never looked internally only listened to the voices of the gods And when the voices were silenced they could then know the laws of God upon their hearts And when there were no gods left to judge them they finally began to judge themselves
even the data in a quantum computer seem to have a consciousness being processed in a fluctuating medium, very similar to the construction of how our universe is only on technological platform but must be enchanting. kind of like tron and the King who would put that plan to action would outburst a crazy out bursting creative society of all kinds of discoveries. open to the public in small dozes . the internet on super ultra boost for mind.
Many confuse the contents of consciousness with consciousness itself, the main theory is that of neuronal networks, mainly because people think the brain is mainly composed of neurons & networks sounds more specific & knowledgeable than "it's neurons!", however I would suggest that the Glial network is a better candidate for consciousness, whilst the neuronal network a better candidate for the contents of consciousness, my reasoning is thus: when people meditate their brain waves phase lock with the first peak frequency of the Schumann resonance at theta 7.8 htz, according to Robert Becker in "The Body Electric", the Glial system which utilizes an analogue semi-conductive flow of holes which because of their relative slow movement, are affected by external magnetic fields via the transverse Hall effect. My contention is that it's the magnetic component of the Schumann resonance that's affecting the holes in the Glial cells & therefore the brain waves, further I believe that when the Glial operate on neurons voluntary attention is at work,whilst when neurons affect the Glial cells involuntary attention is happening.
Just a thought: Isaac Newton came to scientific conclusions about gravity that where different from Einstein's. Einstein's science was more accurate, yet no one get's in an uproar about the "unscientific" Newtonian physics. This happens to be where science is at with regard to consciousness.
Is consciousness all there is? Could it be divided/split into subjective and objective consciousness, sentient and insentient?, is there a choice made for being in one state or another? and then are there levels?
Consciousness - is - and starts by seeing - oneself - as a skeleton - listening - to words. It is there but it is because of the constant movement of time space veil that we are all in, can't catch it because it is in us. and thus we see ourselves differently loosing the skeleton format starter pack. Consciousness is a vibration i think the brain should be able to tap into. but there is no words to describe it nor something to prove it ... yet.
*It's a bit of a shame that Stanford allowed such a pseudoscientific talk like this.* This doesn't happen often, so I will stay subbed. On ther other hand, many Props to Stanford for allowing free speech in the comments here , since other top universities don't allow such an exchange of ideas of us, simple watchers.
the analogy Dr.Nader uses when he talks about how the reticulum is exited by a morning alarm and then stimulates the conscious perseption. I wonder if it applies to me in those cases when I have had repeated dreams about bombs about to expload every time that I heard my alarm, the fright woke me up I think. it happened many times with this particular signal, in the end I had to change the alarm. What happened?
The fact that being a person of consciousness in unikness ( This must be taken for granted if there is multiplicity and diversity ) and with unik experience cancels out pure mechanics for mechanics is abstraction and generality and does not cover free will. The big question is not how the non materialistic can create the matter but the contradiction of matter creating something nonmaterialistic. That means that the brain does not create the thoughts.
Maybe our brains didn’t create thoughts but carried thoughts created by our consciousness. Just like how we can’t see the waves of sound and need to observe it from a media. Our brains might be the media/operating platform for our consciousness 😃
I just have one question: how did mankind survive, prior to the founding of MIT, Harvard & Stanford (et.al) ? (So thankful to have been born in the here and now!)
he lost me with the dead / alive cat at 1:04. Sounds too much like a mysterian, despite the description above that "He proposes that consciousness is primary and only appears as matter."
So the humans in this class all snicker when the prof proposes that God could be a potential solution on the subject. 1:18:27.. I don't judge as to whether one believe in God/higher power or not. But is certainly at the least is as possible a solution as any other one---especially seeing science cannot answer this question. To not consider the possibility and even laugh at it is ignorant and arrogant.
For all individuals questioning this presentation, watch the movie "David Wants to Fly" regarding Transendental Meditation and you will find the truth about what he is saying. Dr. Nader is stating some truths about science however he is speaking generally. The hard problem is more well presented by philosopher David Chalmers. Universities have tried to sell their wares from the beginning of education. Consciousness is very subjective however we seem to all know that we have some form of it. This is a question that scientists have tried to figure out for years. The Integrated Information Theory is the one theory created by Dr. Giulio Tononi that is now giving some promise to the answer of this question from an empirical scientific perspective without the usage of words like pure consciousness. This presentation is one which is trying to push the movement of the late Maharish Mahesh Yogi who was the guru to the Beatles who looked to meditation to answer the question of consciousness. Do your own research and find out for yourself, don't take my word for it. Individuals who hold onto a theistic perspective with unabashed certainty fail to take the necessary time to uncover the quantifiable information which can come from examining a phenomenon more deeply.
I took xanax or a xanbar rather once in my life about 15 years ago and i put my shoes in the dishwasher afterwards i vacuumed the walls and ceilings. All this may have been normal aside i usually use my clothes washer for the shoes, so maybe we're more ingenious in whatever state i was in....but, i didn't remember doing these things till three days later even though i awoke and attended my normal every day schedule including work, exorcism, eating habits etc. etc. I never took that again and have no clue why anyone does. I see how they get away with blaming opioids as so many take that with it and either go crazy...or die...or enter the same state i was in and also take opioids but, we not gonna talk about an inexpensive deadly intoxicant are we...naaah...
I think in 200 years, people may look back to this video and say: 'Wow, in 2014, even prominent MIT/Harvard educated professors were allowed to be idealists/ dualists, pushing buzzwords like 'consciousness', making false dichotomies, promoting theistic agendas, without a hint of knowledge of facts like Darwinian Evolution or Materialism'. At least, Descartes, Kant and Hegel were honest dualist giants. Because, okay, their ignorance had the alibi of not living in our Information Age. At least, they were eloquent, for what it's worth. But now, dualism is just nonsensical.
Sure, consciousness is primary and only appears as matter. & matter creates consciousness. Samkhya & Buddhism has found that 2500 years ago. Simply (emphasized) stated, Buddhism says that matter creates consciousness AND consciousness creates matter. So, over time, consciousness (collective consciousness) created matter (of which we are part). Then ourSelves (pudgala) created our consciousness (and uploaded collective consciousness as well; as conscious & subconscious). Then, in turn, our consciousness creates matter. No big deal! Looking at consciousness is looking back at the process of collective consciousness building matter, and matter building consciousness. A ludicrous adventure in the past, with a no less pretentious and ludicrous claim to bring our "contribution" to that collective consciousness.
We like to equate the sub-conscious (which would be the thing active while asleep, I guess) to the clock that runs in your computer. Even if you turn your computer off, it doesn't stop keeping track of time because that's a pretty essential process to keep running for later, ya know?
Alexandre Gurchumelia There's published research on teh physiology of _samadhi_ AKA "pure consciousness" aka "transcendental consciousness" during TM practice: e.g.: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7045911 www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6377350 www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9009807 There's also published research on how an unassailable sense-of-self starts to emerge in the TM practitioner after many thousands of hours of TM practice alternated with normal activity. This review article goes over the preliminary physiological and psychological research on people who report such a sense-of-self being present at all times, whether waking, dreaming or in deep sleep, for at least one year: onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/nyas.12316/full TM theory says that people who have such a permanent sense-of-self are in the first of several higher states of consciousness called "enlightenment." Yogic tradition says that higher states exist beyond that first stage, and some of the people interviewed in the studies appear to be in these higher states, but there's not enough subjects in each different state to allow physiological analysis of such small sub-groups of subjects. Eventually, it is hoped, there will be, and the studies on the physiological correlates of someone who perceives that they are "one with the universe" would then be published.
Alexandre Gurchumelia Tony Nader is the official, hand-picked successor of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, who founded the Transcendental Meditation organization. MMY was calling for his students to study the effects of TM scientifically as far back as 1959. One of his students published his PhD research on the Physiology of Transcendental Meditation in _Science_ in 1970, which is considered teh first "modern" study on meditation. MMY had to defend himself against his own students because they were so anti-science back in the late 50's/early 60's. This comment is the basis for all modern research on TM, so there's not a possibility of non-physical claims being made by any researcher publishing research on TM who agrees with MMY on the subject (in other words, no non-physical process claims are made). Note that the term "consciousness" refers to *human* consciousness, not "universal consciousness" -THAT is referred to obliquely as "wholeness of life which is present everywhere": *Every experience has its level of physiology, and so unbounded awareness has its own level of physiology which can be measured. Every aspect of life is integrated and connected with every other phase. When we talk of scientific measurements, it does not take away from the spiritual experience. We are not responsible for those times when spiritual experience was thought of as metaphysical. Everything is physical. Consciousness is the product of the functioning of the brain. Talking of scientific measurements is no damage to that wholeness of life which is present everywhere and which begins to be lived when the physiology is taking on a particular form. This is our understanding about spirituality: it is not on the level of faith --it is on the level of blood and bone and flesh and activity. It is measurable.* -Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
@@feverishhx9750 God? Heaven? If consciousness is primary, what is it? Consciousness is not primary -- it is produced by the brain. He does have some nice slides, however.
Below the subatomic layer of the universe is consciousness, which is silence and pure bliss? And this stuff is like computer source code? And this is scientific? I don't understand what's going on.
"And at the basis of all of that is the unified field, and that in our thesis is consciousness. It's a field of pure being, pure intelligence, pule silence, pure bliss." I'll bet 10 bucks they only came up with that after experiencing ego death on a heroic dose of LSD.
@53:00 accidents and perceptions thereof, it only seems very quick to the observer, not to the person involved, why is the perception to take out the people involved and say the observers were correct? They were not involved
Consuosnest is all good people around the hole world be cost the pamimili ng taong pakikitunguan at pakikisamahan this is the best like you and me the food people of york good relidion
my theory says that consciousness is like reading and understanding text, consciousness being caused by parallel processing of semantic symbols, while reading involves serial processing of those same symbols. sorry to appear so negative in the last 'troll' but the introducer was too young to know s**t.
I am surprised these talks are on the Stanford logo. They seem clearly related to Maharishi ?Mahesh Yogi, so called, and shoukd presumably be on his logo.
Unfortunately I could find little academic or scientific affiliation for Dr. Nader (there seem to be no publications in scientific data bases (I used EBSCO) or current research positions at "independent" institutions for Dr. Nader). Now I am in doubt about the validity of his arguments. Some of the findings he presents sound familiar to me and all he is presenting could be true but I cannot be as sure of it as I would be when knowing I am listening to a critically minded unbiased scientist... This is unfortunate - the topic is almost magically interesting (and very promising from a life-science's point of view). For those who are interested in a (as far as I can tell trustworthy) scientific-practitioner's blend: Robert Wright's course on "Buddhism and Modern Psychology" (also on youtube, Robert Wright himself is a journalist, but he interviews a lot of the big names of today's (psychological) science and famous practitioners and cites various empirical studies).
Uncontiosnes is pamimili ng pakikisamahan o pakikitunguan na tao o kasama like other religion or other people around the world like you and me consiusnest i good for good pipole
Although I'm only 12 years old, I've been fascinated with the color and poetry of the universe we call science. I love astronomy, neurology, physics (quantum, astro, neuro, meta) an basically science. I couldn't watch all of this, but it's just so beautiful, so I thank you for posting this pure video of nature and essentially the color of the universe.
I've read Richard Dawkins evolutionary quotes and videos, and read Carl Sagans book "Cosmos" I'm fascinated.
Thanks, I also read "A briefer HIstory of time"
By stephen hawking... I appreciate the nice comment *
+Nory Aronfeld Read it again.
I hope you will get to MIT and make some science
Awesome, good for you! May you follow & achieve your most marvelous dreams!
I hope you also give yourself lots of time to play & enjoy time with fun friends, to eat and sleep well -- and to study science, philosophy, art, color, beauty, truth, happiness, and all that really matters most from the best source of all -- life, nature, and Reality :)
Greetings frim the Andes mountains for you, young scholar prince/ess. 🙂🐆🦊🦜🙏
Dr.John Hagelin and Dr.Tony Nader are extremely helpful in delving into the field of consciousness.
yes ...u can too watch sadhguru's concern on consciousness
This was an amazing talk. Thanks. Looking forward to the next session eight years ago.
To all complaining it's not pure science. You are right, when talking about Consciousness u need more a philosophical than a scientific attitude. Consciousness is beyound science' grasp.
The only thing I know is Consciousness.
"I know" means "I am". And nothing more. The "intelectual rest" is just scientific gibberish.
What facts? U have no idea what a Consciousness is. Neither do I. That's why one can only say : "I am". That's it! Be honest!
"I know" is just licentia poetica. Let it go. Keep "I am".
the rules of language...and words are more important than the truth? I don't think so.
Excellent!! That was the whole point of my 2001 theories and my 2003 book from my presentations. Consciousness as primary natural law. That was the title of my poster. I taught experimental methodology and so I made a new statistical hybrid methodology for seeing it working and someone actually did the research a few years later and it was among the most significant results ever found by science. But no one understood the questions it answered back then. Now everything has changed and it is amazing!! People still don’t see the full implications but we are getting there. 🥰🙏🏻👍🏻🌹
I feel like Consciousness is all there is and IT came into this body as the egg and sperm joined together their Consciousness to become One human physical being, this Being....my physical self. But really, I AM only Consciousness inhabiting this physical form called a body. Consciousness is animating this body as I listen closely and wait for IT's guidance. IT is beating my heart, breathing my lungs and animating/guiding bacteria to digest the food I eat. I AM only IT in this physical body...simple to this Being....
This video seems like a summary of all theory of consciousness, however there's 1 missing: an idea that consciousness is an 'error-correction' mechanism for all type of complex mobile/motile animal, such as cats, rats, birds and human. The idea is; if sub-conscious perform all the low-level planning of limb & body movement to interact with physical world, like for something as simple as walking, our consciousness then act as observer to measure error between intention/plan with its outcome, thus allow learning & correction. Those mechanism cannot work without a complete 'replication' of our body senses & perception of physical world in our brain, thus when that happen "conscious" existed.
reference: ua-cam.com/video/F7WF5gzPG1k/v-deo.html
Your assertion that those mechanisms cannot work without a complete replication, etc., does not ring true. One basic concept in the design of systems is exception-handling, where an exception or error may pass only a piece of information describing the exception or error. The information may include arbitrary amount of detail, but in no sense does it require a complete replication of the system.
@@DavidMichaelKalman the programmers of those system have a mental model of the software's behaviour, so when an 'exceptional-event' occurs the programmer refer back to his mental model and implement a "bug fixes" to return the system to normal behaviour. In this case the software don't have a consciousness of its own but outsourced the image of its own body to the programmers. ("Exception" is a condition in a software where it encounters error which the programmer didn't expect, like for example requesting a file but the file didn't exist and the programmer didn't code a system to handle it, so it typically handle it on its own by simply "throwing" error to user as alternate mean of handling the situation and proceed with crashing or continues operating with glitchy & aberrant behaviour),
@@xponen I think we mostly agree that the observation of the systems and the ability to plan and predict, etc., are the factors that create consciousness... I would still insist that our mental map is not a complete replication, but possibly a highly condensed/compressed and inherently incomplete picture.
Brilliant
Great talk! Congrats to Stanford for allowing such a glimpse into reality.
I liked how you showed that consciousness and self awareness or just awareness, are two completely separate things
I think he has interchanged awareness and conscious so really they are not different in his mind
He didn't show them at all. Self-awareness and consciousness are inextricably intertwined.
To be self aware is to be conscious of yourself.
@@sguraya7223 animals are aware and use instincts
We have a choice to use our instincts or we can overwrite our instincts with consciousness which animals cannot. Consciousness and awareness are two separate things
We are not conscious all day long but we are aware all day long about ourselves as conscious beings. Not all people are even conscious yet but they are aware of their surroundings and pain but this is not consciousness, it doesn't rise to the level of consciousness. Awareness in a human is a precursor to becoming conscious but they are separate things and not entertwined
They do complement and work together in those who have gained consciousness though
@@galenflynn398 you are conflating "awareness" with self-consciousness. and we are indeed conscious all day long. if anything, the consistent awareness of the conscious effect is what we do not experience all day long.
@@northdale2502 keep telling yourself we are conscious all day long as you pass your freeway off ramp oops
Incredible. We have some geniuses in these comments who are so perceptive that they don't even need to hear the conclusion to the proposal to know that it's wrong. Since I'm not psychic I'll have to wait until the end of the next video before I pass judgement. If only I knew everything like some of you.
JrIcify Many comments are made without even listening to it at all.
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+JrIcify It's too bad that you have to sit through three and a half hours of lecture to determine whether there is a physiological fundament to consciousness; but, that's no reason to get annoyed with those of us who don't. With all of the things in your daily life that do not depend on materialism to be true, why is it so hard to understand that your consciousness is also one of them? Example: How is information transmitted over a cell phone if everything requires a proximity that allows direct physical contact or electrical arching? What are the physical characteristics of the fundamental forces in the Universe? Yet, you think the most sophisticated thing, in the whole Universe, needs a piece of meat in order to exist?
what? makes sense to me. what are you defending that causes such attack?
Wow! Take a break after 40 minutes. What a clear story and so far everything is clear to me. This is exactly what I have discovered regarding processes in the mind, identifications and ego and awareness and consciousness. I've always had a bit of a problem with "teachers" who deny everything but pure consciousness. Of course we are essentially pure consciousness (the Self), but also including the rest of the body and mind. See a picture of Ramana, that is not a picture of consciousness, but a picture of a human being. I am not only pure consciousness, but also a manifestation with body and mind.
But I understand very well the "sacred trinity": the observer, the perceiving and the observed. The observer (without the interference of the mind, etc.) is pure consciousness, the observed (by the "pure observer) is consciousness. Then can it is not otherwise that perceiving through the consciousness of consciousness is consciousness.((I suspect the google translation could be better))
just an fyi: in the opening, when Dr Nader goes through his recap around the 2 minute mark, the subtitles suggest what he is saying to be: light motive
its more likely to have been the German Leitmotiv, a term used to describe the major, recurring theme around which everything else gravitates, a term more commonly found in musictheory.
thanks for making this available
Greetings from Germany
I made a mistake. The opening speaker said it, not Dr Nader.
Asche auf mein Haupt. ;)
"leitmotif" is the english word
01:31:20 Children are not less conscious, they are more conscious, they are less cognitive. Developing Rationality is a powerful tool in our evolution, but it is something different, than the deep realms of consciousness. People should be thought in school how to explore their consciousness, than they would also understand better the processes of cognition. The would be able to be the observer of the pre-conscious, before language, symbols and pictures. In comparison to the universal consciousness our limited ratio is primitive. The consciousness of the older beings on the planets is higher and not lower than ours, as long as we are no longer in the conscious state and mix reality with our rational concepts, we won't be able to look "animals" with dignity in to the eyes and connect with plants and other life forms that spring out of the unified field of consciousness.
Now perceive the consciousness of professor as he saying, "as you wake up & to go to work". He didn't say, "As you wake up to meditate before you go to work", so we know where he's at. In super consciousness we know this is why reason is greater than the teacher.
Is one of the most amazing comference tha i ever seen, asociated with the problem o conciusness.
Where's the recording of the previous episode?
that baby blue knitted jumper really started growing on me towards the end. its still on the sheep in an alternative Universe.
It is a good start to recognize our conscious universe. Think about the DNA codes across all species, the consciousness behind it. Congratulations!
So strange knowing people are shitting on this lecture, saying it's just "pseudoscience malarkey" when 1) consciousness is something that can't easily be explained by science, otherwise we'd have some concrete answers by now. And 2) every thought and idea is valuable in some way. Even if you dont agree with it, you can form your own opinion based off of it, or other studies can be done based on questions one person raised. Nothing in the pursuit of knowledge is wrong. Anyone watching and not getting that from it at least probably have no business pursuing knowledge to begin with.
the most important is to realise with every sp;eaker, -and very hard too- , what is it that we know, what is it we think we know, and what is the interpretation of the data of the speaker (opinion). that way you can discard or at least be critical of the opinions, but realise the information and use it to formulate your own thoughts.
This is absolutely fantastic, I really appreciate you sharing this.
More unbelievable and less fantastic.
What would make you say it's unbelievable? Just interested
For a start where is the evidence?
This is woo woo mixed with some neurophysiology.
I have been trying to watch this video for a week, every time I watch I lost to sleep.
1.5 speed
Stanford is now offering degrees in Deepak Chopra studies?
+James Alan lol aparently
+James Alan lol
i only watched the beginning but my bullshit senses are tingling
I am, therefore I think.... or sometimes stop thinking
I think I think therefore I think I am.
MENTAL ALERTNESS/AWARENESS ABOUT ITSELF IN SURROUNDING & PRECISELY TUNE TO MEET NEED IN DEMAND.SO IT IS A STATE TO PRESERVE IT'S PRESENCE BY ITSELF...
Very intelligent man, no doubt. But it smacks of preconcieved ideas being defended, rather than a search for actual understanding.
Consciousness is associated with “Thinking” and is independent of “Thinking”.
This thought is understood only by Consciousness.
sacred geometry is the code to the field.
I'm curious about this do you know of any good books on the subject.
It would be awesome if people were more open to this kind of thinking. The man is lecturing at Stanford for Christ sake what else do you want?
Alex Leyva Well, it is the same university that trained scientists like Richard Alpert who was later expelled from Harvard for pushing the research on LSD and giving "consciousness-expanding" drugs to an undergraduate... However your "argument" is somewhat illogical. It implicates that if I do a guestlecture at Stanford I am automatically speak scientific "truth". Is that an opinion you hold?
No it is not. My guess was that Stanford would statistically be more likely to have a more educated and successful mind presenting at their school than another school. I think it's reasonable to believe that people who have come through the Stanford system, especially in the STEM fields have an exceptional education as do other very reputable universities such as Caltech, MIT and Berkeley.
So do I believe just because your talking at a respected school means I should listen to you? No, of course not. In fact I would not listen to anybody on any platform with a position of unquestionable acceptance.
This case is very special. The man is speaking about a new emerging paradigm of thinking. A field of research which is getting tons of looks at by all the cutting edge minds in Science, hence, Stanford. It's actually a really fascinating topic. Which ties together nonlinear dynamics with the Newtonian paradigm.
Cheers :)
@@holocenemammal882 What's wrong with LSD research?
compassion for differences is ok. homo sapiens operate at different stages of consciousness(cs). as one evolves thru stages, there is greater perspectives and understanding. once beyond the linear 3D causal, we can experience a way of being that resonates with love/peace and begin experiencing nonlinear, multi-dimensional ways of being. so, some of us listening to these lectures will not get the full messages and that's ok. ultimately, it's all perfect. when one is ready, the appropriate message arrives, and we get it. being open to "hearing" different conceptual streams may be helpful for expansion of cs. anyway, relax and enjoy life and have fun.
Well done and very interesting. Thank you for a lucid discussion of a difficult topic.
So life is in process,we know what serves,
Is death a transitory phase with e mystery
a different
story?
One trough centuries is obtaining more awareness as ones searches and tries to put into perspective th
God equation..
CS is a meta differential function of the ID, where solutions are other CS meta differential functions...
This is actually great as Spiritual path. like Buddhisms or Zoroastrian state. A time Gap bubble accessible one can enter only through Gates of feelings that are purely there but not addressed if not addressed. the cognitive State of clear conscious.
Don't you worry NO ONE is making anything of me... I AM!! I'm a little slow at doing things and may not be as detailed and/or as clever as most but, i am who i am and what i am. There is an existence before you came into this life and there will be one after buddy. You'll see and if u start thinking clearly u might start remembering too.
agha nader.. lotf kardeee. dahmet garm.. hezar saul zendeh bashee. khaylee kareh khoobee daree meekonee bacheh iranee =)
I know lecture was a little older..was great..
So if consciousness isn't self awareness, that is just a biproduct of our physical world, then does everything have a consciousness? Do you have to be aware of who, what, where you are in order to be considered conscious? I'm a little confused in this matter.
where do I watch the next class?
A knowledge fantastic
Hallucinant
Thank you Dr Nader
The answer to the "hard problem" is that one who is conscious, is one who has beliefs.
A worm has consciousness because it has beliefs such as that if it eats the soil it will appease the feeling of hunger.
A robin has consciousness because it has beliefs such as that eating a worm and building a nest will appease instinctual feelings.
A human has consciousness because it has beliefs such as the belief that if it opens its eyes, it will see the place surrounding where it is, and the belief that what it sees, hears, feels, tastes, touches, thinks, and believes, is somehow real.
i have Dissociative identity disorder.....this was fascinating ..try explain my particular consciousness...maybe im in many universe at once lol...makes sense to me
Your everyday focus bounces between female and masculine energy, positive and negative, warm emotions and cold thinking. Each having its own habbitual way of behaving. Observe your thoughts and routine and the way these sync and correlates. Observing is conscious attention focused inward. Scale up your awareness to the point where you can easily observe your behaviour in a given context. If this infers with your home/family life, think about the routine you follow regarding your closed ones. The power of observation is the supreme/divine power one can use to clearly understand what's happening. This implies a masculine, negative, cold thinking process as it requires stillness, rewiring neuronal pathways instead of wasting energy contracting muscles or overuse other internal organs. Remember you're pure energy materialized that is still and alive at the same time. I hope this helps you and I wish you all the best!
@@andreighira6870 You are amazing!
Thank you for sharing the knowledge...Nice presentaion.
Is there any negativity ? Dont be so impressed by a Phd . He has presented the stuff clear and articulate thats great. What i think must be taken into account is all the personal experiences out there. You can not read everything in books. Investigation recent years in NDE is the new "Copernican turn" There is something out there- and there is something within -and this is a glimpse of what is ......consciousness.
His conclusions so far is to deal with. The answer on the problem of the self is -reincarnation
Interesting theorizing.
They never looked internally
only listened to the voices of the gods
And when the voices were silenced
they could then know the laws of God upon their hearts
And when there were no gods left to judge them
they finally began to judge themselves
Thank you for the free education
Thank you very much for this fascinating talk and insight in counciousness !
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Unified field - Jacobo Grinberg's idea proposed long time ago.
Sapolsky is a hard act to follow for sure...
even the data in a quantum computer seem to have a consciousness
being processed in a fluctuating medium, very similar to the construction of how our universe is only on technological platform but must be enchanting. kind of like tron and the King who would put that plan to action would outburst a crazy out bursting creative society of all kinds of discoveries. open to the public in small dozes . the internet on super ultra boost for mind.
@35:33 Dr. Nader is saying "What is at the basis of the Higgs boson?" - but the people who transcribed the audio have put "[UNKNOWN]" ...
Many confuse the contents of consciousness with consciousness itself, the main theory is that of neuronal networks, mainly because people think the brain is mainly composed of neurons & networks sounds more specific & knowledgeable than "it's neurons!", however I would suggest that the Glial network is a better candidate for consciousness, whilst the neuronal network a better candidate for the contents of consciousness, my reasoning is thus: when people meditate their brain waves phase lock with the first peak frequency of the Schumann resonance at theta 7.8 htz, according to Robert Becker in "The Body Electric", the Glial system which utilizes an analogue semi-conductive flow of holes which because of their relative slow movement, are affected by external magnetic fields via the transverse Hall effect. My contention is that it's the magnetic component of the Schumann resonance that's affecting the holes in the Glial cells & therefore the brain waves, further I believe that when the Glial operate on neurons voluntary attention is at work,whilst when neurons affect the Glial cells involuntary attention is happening.
"There is nothing but consciousness" Did Deepak Chopra have a word with him?
Tom Campbell is the man who marries all this together and explains it logically.
Seriously?
Just a thought: Isaac Newton came to scientific conclusions about gravity that where different from Einstein's. Einstein's science was more accurate, yet no one get's in an uproar about the "unscientific" Newtonian physics. This happens to be where science is at with regard to consciousness.
Daniel Dennett and Francis Crick would, I suspect, find this lecture to be something akin to the ruminations of Deepak Chopra. I could be wrong.
JaiGuruDev🙏
Is consciousness all there is? Could it be divided/split into subjective and objective consciousness, sentient and insentient?, is there a choice made for being in one state or another? and then are there levels?
Consciousness - is - and starts by seeing - oneself - as a skeleton - listening - to words.
It is there but it is because of the constant movement of time space veil that we are all in, can't catch it because it is in us. and thus we see ourselves differently loosing the skeleton format starter pack.
Consciousness is a vibration i think the brain should be able to tap into. but there is no words to describe it nor something to prove it ... yet.
This dude needs to team up with Banardo Kastrup.
*It's a bit of a shame that Stanford allowed such a pseudoscientific talk like this.* This doesn't happen often, so I will stay subbed. On ther other hand, many Props to Stanford for allowing free speech in the comments here , since other top universities don't allow such an exchange of ideas of us, simple watchers.
I cannot find this Dr on Scholar or Scopus. Where are is peer reviewed works?
the analogy Dr.Nader uses when he talks about how the reticulum is exited by a morning alarm and then stimulates the conscious perseption. I wonder if it applies to me in those cases when I have had repeated dreams about bombs about to expload every time that I heard my alarm, the fright woke me up I think. it happened many times with this particular signal, in the end I had to change the alarm. What happened?
And also CONNECTED
Still doesn’t say what consciousness is.
Wonderful talk, thank you
Brilliant...
The fact that being a person of consciousness in unikness ( This must be taken for granted if there is multiplicity and diversity ) and with unik experience cancels out pure mechanics for mechanics is abstraction and generality and does not cover free will.
The big question is not how the non materialistic can create the matter but the contradiction of matter creating something nonmaterialistic. That means that the brain does not create the thoughts.
Maybe our brains didn’t create thoughts but carried thoughts created by our consciousness. Just like how we can’t see the waves of sound and need to observe it from a media. Our brains might be the media/operating platform for our consciousness 😃
What about development? Babies vs Adults
Thats a nice outfit combo/layering the introducer has on.
Impressive!
Awesome!
I just have one question: how did mankind survive, prior to the founding of MIT, Harvard & Stanford (et.al) ?
(So thankful to have been born in the here and now!)
he lost me with the dead / alive cat at 1:04. Sounds too much like a mysterian, despite the description above that "He proposes that consciousness is primary and only appears as matter."
"The Boundary Between Light and Darkness" I wrote the book. I still don’t understand it.
So the humans in this class all snicker when the prof proposes that God could be a potential solution on the subject. 1:18:27.. I don't judge as to whether one believe in God/higher power or not. But is certainly at the least is as possible a solution as any other one---especially seeing science cannot answer this question. To not consider the possibility and even laugh at it is ignorant and arrogant.
For all individuals questioning this presentation, watch the movie "David Wants to Fly" regarding Transendental Meditation and you will find the truth about what he is saying. Dr. Nader is stating some truths about science however he is speaking generally. The hard problem is more well presented by philosopher David Chalmers. Universities have tried to sell their wares from the beginning of education. Consciousness is very subjective however we seem to all know that we have some form of it. This is a question that scientists have tried to figure out for years. The Integrated Information Theory is the one theory created by Dr. Giulio Tononi that is now giving some promise to the answer of this question from an empirical scientific perspective without the usage of words like pure consciousness. This presentation is one which is trying to push the movement of the late Maharish Mahesh Yogi who was the guru to the Beatles who looked to meditation to answer the question of consciousness. Do your own research and find out for yourself, don't take my word for it. Individuals who hold onto a theistic perspective with unabashed certainty fail to take the necessary time to uncover the quantifiable information which can come from examining a phenomenon more deeply.
people who tell you what is, and not why it it thought to be so, know they are lying or reading out loud.
I took xanax or a xanbar rather once in my life about 15 years ago and i put my shoes in the dishwasher afterwards i vacuumed the walls and ceilings. All this may have been normal aside i usually use my clothes washer for the shoes, so maybe we're more ingenious in whatever state i was in....but, i didn't remember doing these things till three days later even though i awoke and attended my normal every day schedule including work, exorcism, eating habits etc. etc. I never took that again and have no clue why anyone does. I see how they get away with blaming opioids as so many take that with it and either go crazy...or die...or enter the same state i was in and also take opioids but, we not gonna talk about an inexpensive deadly intoxicant are we...naaah...
How does this man still have a job?
I think in 200 years, people may look back to this video and say: 'Wow, in 2014, even prominent MIT/Harvard educated professors were allowed to be idealists/ dualists, pushing buzzwords like 'consciousness', making false dichotomies, promoting theistic agendas, without a hint of knowledge of facts like Darwinian Evolution or Materialism'. At least, Descartes, Kant and Hegel were honest dualist giants. Because, okay, their ignorance had the alibi of not living in our Information Age. At least, they were eloquent, for what it's worth. But now, dualism is just nonsensical.
Sure, consciousness is primary and only appears as matter.
& matter creates consciousness.
Samkhya & Buddhism has found that 2500 years ago.
Simply (emphasized) stated, Buddhism says that matter creates consciousness AND consciousness creates matter.
So, over time, consciousness (collective consciousness) created matter (of which we are part).
Then ourSelves (pudgala) created our consciousness (and uploaded collective consciousness as well; as conscious & subconscious).
Then, in turn, our consciousness creates matter.
No big deal!
Looking at consciousness is looking back at the process of collective consciousness building matter, and matter building consciousness.
A ludicrous adventure in the past, with a no less pretentious and ludicrous claim to bring our "contribution" to that collective consciousness.
Matter can’t be created, only can be transformed.
How can one be conscıous when one ıs asleep (non-dreamıng)?
We like to equate the sub-conscious (which would be the thing active while asleep, I guess) to the clock that runs in your computer. Even if you turn your computer off, it doesn't stop keeping track of time because that's a pretty essential process to keep running for later, ya know?
What is the state of conciousness of meditation?
I was thinking the same thing...
Alexandre Gurchumelia There's published research on teh physiology of _samadhi_ AKA "pure consciousness" aka "transcendental consciousness" during TM practice:
e.g.:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7045911
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6377350
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9009807
There's also published research on how an unassailable sense-of-self starts to emerge in the TM practitioner after many thousands of hours of TM practice alternated with normal activity. This review article goes over the preliminary physiological and psychological research on people who report such a sense-of-self being present at all times, whether waking, dreaming or in deep sleep, for at least one year:
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/nyas.12316/full
TM theory says that people who have such a permanent sense-of-self are in the first of several higher states of consciousness called "enlightenment."
Yogic tradition says that higher states exist beyond that first stage, and some of the people interviewed in the studies appear to be in these higher states, but there's not enough subjects in each different state to allow physiological analysis of such small sub-groups of subjects.
Eventually, it is hoped, there will be, and the studies on the physiological correlates of someone who perceives that they are "one with the universe" would then be published.
Alexandre Gurchumelia
Tony Nader is the official, hand-picked successor of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, who founded the Transcendental Meditation organization.
MMY was calling for his students to study the effects of TM scientifically as far back as 1959. One of his students published his PhD research on the Physiology of Transcendental Meditation in _Science_ in 1970, which is considered teh first "modern" study on meditation.
MMY had to defend himself against his own students because they were so anti-science back in the late 50's/early 60's.
This comment is the basis for all modern research on TM, so there's not a possibility of non-physical claims being made by any researcher publishing research on TM who agrees with MMY on the subject (in other words, no non-physical process claims are made). Note that the term "consciousness" refers to *human* consciousness, not "universal consciousness" -THAT is referred to obliquely as "wholeness of life which is present everywhere":
*Every experience has its level of physiology, and so unbounded awareness has its own level of physiology which can be measured. Every aspect of life is integrated and connected with every other phase. When we talk of scientific measurements, it does not take away from the spiritual experience. We are not responsible for those times when spiritual experience was thought of as metaphysical. Everything is physical. Consciousness is the product of the functioning of the brain. Talking of scientific measurements is no damage to that wholeness of life which is present everywhere and which begins to be lived when the physiology is taking on a particular form. This is our understanding about spirituality: it is not on the level of faith --it is on the level of blood and bone and flesh and activity. It is measurable.* -Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
I don't think I mind this body of knowledge at all.
What this shows is that even highly educated people like Tony Nader can be taken in by the lure of mysticism.
what mysticism
@@feverishhx9750 God? Heaven? If consciousness is primary, what is it? Consciousness is not primary -- it is produced by the brain. He does have some nice slides, however.
@@georgegrubbs2966 he does not believe in god or heaven and neither do i.
@@georgegrubbs2966 Brain produced by what?
@@jinlancera neural networks which are powered by chemicals and electricity.
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Kaballa, Tree of Life? Nyet! I was hoping for some scientific lectures on physiology, not voodoo.
Below the subatomic layer of the universe is consciousness, which is silence and pure bliss? And this stuff is like computer source code? And this is scientific? I don't understand what's going on.
Who was The hot twunk in gray vest?
"And at the basis of all of that is the unified field, and that in our thesis is consciousness. It's a field of pure being, pure intelligence, pule silence, pure bliss." I'll bet 10 bucks they only came up with that after experiencing ego death on a heroic dose of LSD.
Sounds a lot like Islam!
@@Kniz55 Wtf you on about?
@53:00 accidents and perceptions thereof, it only seems very quick to the observer, not to the person involved, why is the perception to take out the people involved and say the observers were correct? They were not involved
Consuosnest is all good people around the hole world be cost the pamimili ng taong pakikitunguan at pakikisamahan this is the best like you and me the food people of york good relidion
my theory says that consciousness is like reading and understanding text, consciousness being caused by parallel processing of semantic symbols, while reading involves serial processing of those same symbols. sorry to appear so negative in the last 'troll' but the introducer was too young to know s**t.
the best results that i've had was by following the Anatomy Blueprint Pro (just google it) definately the best info that I have ever followed.
I am surprised these talks are on the Stanford logo. They seem clearly related to Maharishi ?Mahesh Yogi, so called, and shoukd presumably be on his logo.
Unfortunately I could find little academic or scientific affiliation for Dr. Nader (there seem to be no publications in scientific data bases (I used EBSCO) or current research positions at "independent" institutions for Dr. Nader). Now I am in doubt about the validity of his arguments. Some of the findings he presents sound familiar to me and all he is presenting could be true but I cannot be as sure of it as I would be when knowing I am listening to a critically minded unbiased scientist...
This is unfortunate - the topic is almost magically interesting (and very promising from a life-science's point of view). For those who are interested in a (as far as I can tell trustworthy) scientific-practitioner's blend: Robert Wright's course on "Buddhism and Modern Psychology" (also on youtube, Robert Wright himself is a journalist, but he interviews a lot of the big names of today's (psychological) science and famous practitioners and cites various empirical studies).
+Alla Sawatzky
He's a kook. Layer after layer of vague and turtles all the way down.
This 12 yr old below is a prime example of future discoveries in conciousness
Uncontiosnes is pamimili ng pakikisamahan o pakikitunguan na tao o kasama like other religion or other people around the world like you and me consiusnest i good for good pipole