A perfect example would be the Phoenix, she's my absolute favorite character aside from Emma Frost but every time you see her brought to the big screen they manage to fuck it up, the Phoenix Saga is not a one-and-done movie, at the very least it should be a trilogy.
Its was originally supposed to be a 2 parter but the fox Disney merger ruined it :( they were also gonna use scrolls and the shira empire but they didnt have the rights and Disney threatened to sue them
I agree. The bit they always forget is that the Dark Phoenix Saga was just the pay off to much longer arc. You don't necessarily need multiple movies dedicated to it but you at least need to have it as a steadily building subplot. Dark Phoenix without... you know... Phoenix is redundant.
@@tomthespaceknerd5396 right the dark phoenix began with the hellfire club taking over her mind and maker her one of their queen before prof lock her down.
Yeah the adaptations definitely dominate over comics, sometimes I like when they take inspiration like Mr Freeze but I'm not so much a fan of comics being written solely for adaptation
I'm totally okay with comic book characterization and storylines being Rewritten for an adaptation if it's done well but I don't like it when it bleeds back into the comic
@@eqs1782 I think that’s because Marvel’s live action movies tend to resonate more with people. (That’s my nice way of saying that the DC cinematic universe is kind of a mess.)
@@vindozadm7772I tried googling 'fire wig' and that sounds like the right direction! Though results were mostly red-orange ombre wigs. Do you know if there's a website that sells those or a specific brand that makes them?
Personally, I think that the best adaptations are the ones that draw from the source material but create a new story and new characters that can stand alone outside of comics. I also think It's interesting when you have a comic like Under the red hood (which spanned several issues) be adapted to an animated DC movie that still in some cases followed the plotline almost exactly, without losing too much of the characterizations that made the comic book special. We need more of those honestly.
@@akuaowusu-ofori2212 yep, such a great movie. And then they did that “Death in the Family” which was weird as it basically redid Under The Red Hood in the style of a choose your own adventure thing.
My fear is when a character gets a type cast actor and the characters becomes the actor that was one of my fears when Benedict Cumberbatch got cast as Dr Strange but that went better than expected. In comics both Hawkeye’s are probably in my top 5 of favourite characters but I don’t especially like Jeremy Renner playing hims because even though he has his moment Jeremy is just popular but unimportant enough that they do things like cancel Hawkeye cameos because they don’t see him as worth enough to interrupt zjerrem’s schedule. I really got into Hawkeye through the Earths Mightiest hero cartoon and Kate Bishop through the Matt Fraction run and I’m really excited for the upcoming Hawkeye Show but also worried it’ll be shot around Jeremy Renner’s schedule to it’s detriment because of his music career and that if there interpretation of Kate could change her character forever. I hope the series introduces his weird mostly circus themed rouges gallery but him having a family is already so much of a deviation I have no clue if the circus stuff is even cannon in the MCU. Reading this back I’m just rambling again so I’m going to stop.
2:13 is us viewing in on how "Tangent Sasha" focuses in on the minor details of anything that seems "off" and will stop everything to make sense and try to fix it. So good!
As much I love comics, I LOVE the MCU too, and I like you, I'm grateful for adaptations, but miss the original comics take too. MCU Star-Lord is rad, but now every version of him is that, but I do miss the 2008 version, who was voiced by Master Chief in EMH. On the other side, both GOTG and Captain Marvel had better success out of comics, hell, Eternals and Ironheart will follow that same direction. Since Marvel Studios output is consistent, we'll be getting at least all of these, and I can't freaking wait to be fed!
I have read the ORIGINAL Star-Lord stories from the 70's, when he appeared in a couple of b&w comics they had back then. His origin was connected to an astronomical alignment, similar to what happened that occurred when Jesus was born, and why there was 1 star that appeared brighter than the others over Jerusalem (science meeting religion!!). His next appearance was in a John Byrne story where we see his original ship had the power to go INSIDE STARS to power up! I love those stories, but the character was mostly unknown and forgotten. In the 90's that changed and he was reintroduced, but he was different. It's just the nature of comic characters, they change with the writers, authors, and audience. Whether the influence is movies, tv, or other comics, it's the nature of the art form.
I agree but I also feel like the Kevin is shoving a lot of stuff into the MCU. Which is weird cause my biggest complaint was I want more MCU shows/Movies or at least have the Hulu/Netflix/ABC shows to be acknowledged or have some effect on the MCU movies.
Agreed. I miss the Star-Lord I was introduced to in the comics. He wasn't a immature goofball. Peter had a sense of humor, but he was someone who felt the weight of the galaxy on his shoulders and took the Guardians' job very seriously. I can only hope that his character is allowed to mature in the MCU.
I want you, Sasha, to continue to do exactly what you're doing. I think it's great that you focus on comics, both new and old. But we have to remember that there have _always_ been adaptations of comics, right from the very beginning of the comic book phenomenon. Superman Cartoons from the 40's, _The Batman_ shorts also from the 40's. _The Adventures of Captain Marvel_ predating both of them. Feature films and radio, and so forth. There will _always_ be crossovers and adaptations, and we will always need people to focus on one and let other people focus on the other. Batgirl is one of the most popular comic book characters of all time, yet she originated on TV (admittedly concurrently to introducing her to the comic) the same as Harley Quinn and other villains like Egghead. So do what you do and don't worry about the adaptations. Enjoy them for what they are and enjoy the comics for what they are, and accept that the two of them will influence each other. We as humans are creative creatures, but we are also mimics. We incorporate what we consume into what we create. Sometimes this produces greatness.
I always like how the animated shows i grew up with kept the stories very close to source material. X-men TAS is a good example of this. Years later their Phoenix Saga adaptation is still the best adaptation of the story. As for comic books staying comic books , I agree with Sasha. Every time Marvel tries to imitate the movies it make me pull my hair because it screws up continuity really bad (see Starlord's origin and personality). I think Marvel and DC don't have faith in their comic books anymore, they don't believe that they can stand on their own like before. They have be copies of other forms of media to be successful (remember when Marvel's comics had post credits scenes 😒 )That's really sad.
The mileage certainly varies when it comes to comic book adaptions into different mediums. I think the level of respect for comics DEFINITELY makes a difference in the execution of interpretations. Because its no secret that in America comics are erroneously looked down upon, by little minds, as a lesser medium. Unrelated question; Do you write any outlines/bulletpoints/scripts for your videos? Or is this all free form commentary? Because either way you have great natural delivery.
I, for one, love that you focus exclusively on comics. It is very hard to find stuff like this and I appreciate your content just as it is! Thank you for sharing your thoughts and feelings about comics!
I...agree. I see how things have effected comics in that weird "synergy" way. And I worry about the comics I love because the message will get lost to become marketable. Some of the best stories are kind of dark. Like Tony and Carol struggling with alcoholism or the sentry's origin. The same with dc...
Love this video! I feel like Marvel has especially fallen victim to this problem due to the influx of new fans introduced through the MCU. It makes me sad because it feels as though the comics are slowly becoming more serviced toward those fans and not the ones who primarily enjoy the comics.
I love that Sasha could have reshot her intro or edited out the non-lipstick moments, but she just went with it as if the video could only occur in real time.
I know I'm late to the party here, but thanks for this video. I love adaptations and while yes, now the market is over saturated with all the DC shows, Marvel movies and a bit of the other way around, I remember being a kid and thirsting for this so much. So I won't complain. And I am totally okay viewing adaptations as their own thing. But you put this thing that annoys me far more into words - when it's bleeding back. And then suddenly conversations start about "the one true interpretation of a character". Without actually acknowledging some convuluted history that shows that especially superhero comics have a pick'n'choose vibe (depending on authors and whatever the current social norms are). Also a super minor thing, the constant re-starting with a number 1. It's for sales for sure, I know that. But this is linked with adaptations as well. Quick, let's start with #1 again, have two arcs and when we reach #12 it will be the conclusion. Then we have a special and then another #1. Which maybe boost sales for that #1, but it's super frustrating when trying to talk about something, keeping track of the volume and I miss this feeling of "XYZ issue 203". Even though with the internet today it's far easier to jump into comics, because with one search I can read decades worth of backstory of any team or character. And this need for streamlining seems to be for the new audience. I AM PRO NEW AUDIENCE AND NOT GATEKEEPING!!! Don't get me wrong here. Love nothing more than to point people to storylines they might enjoy. Superhero comics are neverending soaps. Where movies and tv shows can't run forever like that. With aging actors for example. And we should talk about how different media are... well different. Movies are so easily digestible, fun popcorn entertainment with flashy action, yes, please, count me in. And I don't mind when two characters develop a different dynamic on-screen than I am used to from the paper panels. Tony Stark is such a good example to pick. I never cared for him. Than came the MCU version and I think RDJ makes a terrific job. And I like this version with all the flaws, the cockiness, the mistakes and triumphs. But when I come across him now on the page... well, yeah, that's movie Tony. And no, I don't care for this version being in the comics now. I still don't care too much when he's in the stories I read (which on the Avengers side is mostly Captain Marvel, but I've been following Carol since forever and oh boy... talking about Carol is a Pandora's Box I like to keep shut). btw thanks for showing The Boys as an example of an adaptation maybe being better than the book. I read a few issues way back, then just kept up with the overall story via reviews, just to see where it would go, but utterly turned off by the writing. And while I don't like everything about it (and I don't have to), I find the show very entertaining in new ways. That's awesome! Daisy Johnson in the comics? Yeah, she's okay. Daisy Johnson from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.? I count her as one of my all-time fav tv characters next to Buffy Summers and Cristina Yang! TV allowed for a different way to tell her story (and Chloe Bennet is just so amazing *looking respectfully*) X-Men are my chosen fictional family. I have been through so many ups and downs. If I have to chose my one fav character? It's Rogue. Actually easy decision (angsty formative influence from childhood? *check*). But while I hate The Last Stand for dozens of reasons, overall I enjoyed Fox' X-movies. With a hint of nostalgia some people nowadays don't get, because back in 2000 there was nothing like it. And while I have receipts for all the things that should be different in X1+2 (80% being about the characterization of the women *le gasp*), I still love watching those time and again. I'm sad The Gifted was cancelled (needed more Blink on my screen). Kinda funny though, I guess the bleeding back from movie to comic didn't happen that much with the X franchise. The comics let Charles slip further and further down the shady path, movie goers still have no clue (he has his moments of overconfidence). Of course one of the biggest slaps to the face did happen because of adaptations and license shenanigans. Magneto and the Maximoff twins... *screams into pillow* The "you are not the father" moment wouldn't have happened in the comics on its own. That one still hurts. Sometimes I flip through old Marvel issues and see Nick Fury. And while I KNOW, there is a second long double take "why is he white". Also we need to talk about the people who make live action Batman and are afraid of giving him his Batfamily. It's funny to have two Batman fans, where one talks about Bruce as this lone brooding person, disconnected from society. And the other makes Bruce collecting orphans like Pokémon memes. Which brings me to the point that an adaptation should stand on its own. A little wink-wink nudge-nudge for fans is cool, but whenever I think about that random suit in BvS... well, I know who Robin is. I even remember a specific Robin being killed by the Joker. But if I watch Man of Steel and than Batman v Superman... it means n o t h i n g. And I'm sorry for any moviegoer who doesn't feel like picking up a comic book (or any adaptation that did pick up this storyline before or shows Bruce as the father to many he is). Sure, yes, Batman and Robin have entered the realm of common knowledge, but still, a little bit of effort when presenting adapted versions of known characters please?! Comics are comics. Movies, tv, videogames are their own thing. And I think it's fine to maybe only focus on a character within a specific medium. Valid choice. And as nice as interconnectivity is, creators should treat different mediums as their own thing (of course you can have a videogame that specifically says "this is set in the movieverse version" or what-not).
I am LIVING for this holo wig. And also, MCU synergy isn’t always bad. It absolutely murdered the Guardians of the Galaxy comics, but it did revitalize properties like Runaways, Jessica Jones and in some cases even created properties, like Agent Carter and Agents of SHIELD.
First, loving the wig, and you looked fine without the lippy 😉. Also, all the UA-camrs out there there's only you and Linkara who talk only about comics, that I can find (both amazing to watch). And for me - adaptions just have to be. Neither are better or worse than the other, they should be just their own thing
I agree with the love/hate feeling towards synergy. I feel sometimes the movies and TV shows overcomplicate things or recognize the significance of what the characters have been through in the comics
Alan Moore is correct about adapting his works some things should just be comics. Some things can be adapted into other mediums very well. but comics were my first love and will remain so. and you may have convinced me to try almond milk, I never have.
Alan Moore is way too precious about comics that he writes on contract for others. Not to say that every adaptation of his work is a winner, but considering he's not going to make any more cash off of a Watchman or V For Vendetta movie, at least he could accept some credit as a co-creator and not be so universally churlish about it.
I very much agree on all points. Not all mediums are compatible and comics and movies have their own way of telling stories that don't always mesh well. Some adaptations can offer a fresh perspective, but far too few of them are creatively motivated. Also almond milk is worth a try.
Have you heard or seen the movie Alan Moore is made/making (I only saw the trailer). But it looked like something that might have been better as a graphic novel.
um, personally I do like the fact that you focus in on the comics themselves. its not like your not clearly stating the overlap and influences that other media has on comics but its really is nice to "go to the source" as it were. I like to think of it as Shakespeare, there are lots of interpretations of his plays in different media and eras but you can always just read the original too and its just as good and seeing what and why people changed things, what did and didn't work (for its time or location) is just very interesting! it makes it a richer experience.
I agree. I'm primarly a MCU fan but i really enjoy (re)discovering the amazing and strange World of comics trough your channel ! It's unique in the best way
I hadn’t considered that. While I do enjoy some comics tying in, I do want them to say separate. Hopefully new adaptations of series will lead to collections of older runs being more accessible.
My concern with this recent batch of MCU adaptations is that in taking popular comic storylines and bending them into continuities that just don’t fit very well in the MCU will lead to subpar stories. At this point MCU continuity stands on its own so easily that attempting to execute storylines that exist in their own specific context seems pointless to me and may overshadow stories that stand well on their own in the comics But maybe I’m being dramatic and talented storytellers may be able to pay homage to comics without butchering the originals.
Only show that interest me is WandaVision because of the concept. Hiding in sitcoms from the real world. Plus the actors really seem to love their roles and excited to explore a separate narrative.
I've never really thought about if the comic authors were doing things specifically with the intention of having them adapted. I'll have to keep that in mind the next time I read something and see how I look at it now. Thanks for that perspective!
I agree very strongly with the things said in this video. An even more extreme element that you did not mention in this video is when horizontal marketing mandates reading/watching ALL the materiel to understand what is happening. Like I'm a Star Wars guy and Disney's Star Wars has recently been using books and comics to explain away concepts that are either poorly explained or plotholes in the films. For God's sake, they even used Fortnite and it's done to such a large degree that the story will does not make complete sense unless you read the comics and books in addition to the movies. I think this is very damaging to the film, comics, and books all as separate art forms and it's terrible for the story (and my wallet!) because now I have to go on multiple tangents in an in cohesive manner to get the whole story. And that's if I envy want to go through the effort of doing all that extra work, most people will not look into outside material, they will watch the movie and be done with it. Overall, I do think this is a terrible way to tell a story. Have as many tie ins as you want I say, but never made them mandatory and don't use them to fox all the mistake you were too lazy to fix in your films. I want to just see the films and be done with it. Like I will think about a good films long after I see it and if I need comics and books to keep up my interest, it's a bad film. That's the most effective way to tell a story from narrative standpoint not to mention it save so much time and money.
You mean that DC's movies and shows are separate from each other? I guess that is a difference from Marvel, but I don't see how that is relevant to this conversation. In both Marvel and DC, the movies and shows are different universes from the comics.
You've put a lot of my feelings about these adaptations into somewhat better words than I can think of atm. I used to be super excited for adaptations but I'm never happy with them and the reverse bleed with changing the comics to be more like the movies or whatever upsets me a lot. In the end now adaptations either make me upset or leave me with indifference
@@eqs1782 I'm just here thinking how they're gonna pull off armor wars in the mcu, just can't figure it out. Secret invasion I smelled coming since the captain marvel movie
@@OmerAliuddin maybe I'm not smart enough but I don't see why the skrulls would invade earth when Captain Marvel helped them out. Maybe the Kree but they've been dealt with before on the shows. Maybe Ronan but he's dead. And secret invasion was fun because it had everyone and the heroes and villains didn't know who was a skrull or not. It was messy, brutal, and heartwrenching at some parts. I feel like this is just gonna be a lame cat and mouse spy thriller not that its bad but not the Secret Invasion I would want to see on the screen.
@@eqs1782 oh did they? I never watched the movie, but I speculated secret invasion coming regardless the moment the skrulls were introduced. I suspect you'll be right in what you're thinking here
Let's not forget how Marvel bent over backwards to give us Nick Fury Junior just so he could displace the OG Nick. Adaptations can be a gift or a curse. It's not easy.
I so appreciate your passion for comics. I heard DC is looking to go fully digital, and that makes me very sad. My life long comic buddy and I discussed the coming time when we'll sit near my comic book racks, reminiscing about the times when we could buy comics every week and read them in our hands. I feel like you might feel the same. Thanks Sasha!
The thing you said about comics being written/drawn solely for the big/small screen really hit me. I remember reading Moon Knight's last series and he had a limo that self-drives and all this tech and stuff. I was like, okay...then there was an issue that was pretty much devoid of any dialogue and all action (The issue where a girl was kidnapped and held in the top floor of an abandoned building complex). It was VERY cinematic. It was like I was just looking at a storyboard or a visual screenplay. So, it's all bleeding into each other for better or worse. It's how business works, I guess?
Bleedback as you put has always happened. Sometimes for better, like with Mr. Freeze and Harley Quinn, and sometimes for the worse like Star Lord (flame shields up). I think that comics biggest foe is people not wanting to feel like they're jumping into the middle of a story. They don't want to risk not knowing something and missing story bits because of it. It's kind of a shame really, because I'm usually having my most fun when I find something I don't know and going back and investigating it. It's a truly unique medium that allows you to jump in and enjoy it backwards and forwards.
Having started reading comics in the 70's all we wanted was to see our beloved characters brought to life on screen, but seeing how they butchered a lot of what made them what we loved the phrase "careful what you wish for" comes to mind.
One of the reasons that I enjoy this channel is that you stick to just comics and not the adaptations. I read a few comics as a kid, but they were Transformers, Archie, and Richie Rich, not typical Marvel or DC superheroes. So, there is an entire history of stories that I know nothing about! I enjoy going on the journeys that you take us on to both the common highways and zanier corners of comics history (including current-ish events in comics). I also appreciate your wigs! It’s always a question of what your hair will look like today. Your hair/wigs is practically a sidekick on this channel.
No, I think you bring up a great concern of whether comics are focusing to much on how their adaption is going to come out as rather than on the here and now, on writing a good comic first.
I think you have every right (of course) to feel like mama bear over this medium. That’s how I feel about books and 2D art in general Cape for it! It’s a medium that deserves protection! It’s a rare form of the beauty of both illustrated art and reading. And when it’s done well or even not well- it’s still really magical and inspiring. It creates unforgettable and defining moments in your life. At least for me. People do try to say it’s a “dying art form” when it really isn’t. And sitting down with a comic or manga is indeed a world of its own and it’s a world I miss a lot which is what pulled me here. Especially how you discuss them. It’s in a way that feels cared for and nonjudgmental. Like you can enjoy whatever and it’s cool and I really like that atmosphere, because it helps encourage exploration - something I do think is lost in this hyper visual/manically aware world. The anime/movie really is NOT better all the time - and so much can be lost or the entire tones and catalyst moments overlooked by not having read the world inside the comic/manga which really does do a disservice to the characters/stories if it becomes popular, in my opinion. And sometimes it’s flipped. I’ve been on both ends of this trail and neither side feels fun loll I end up feeling cheated or like “why couldn’t the (comic/movie) have been left alone?” Or “why couldn’t I have seen the (movie/comic) first”. I feel like adaptations recently have become more..”dangerous”? In a way. I feel like in modern days people tend to actually want to know the living human that is and looks like this fictional character cause it makes it ‘real’ in a way I guess. - but what makes it dangerous is that they want them to be that person and that specific personality all. the. time. and not even see the character grow within their own selves or through other lenses. Personally, I feel like too much is too much and right now..it’s too much. Original mediums need time to breathe and be itself and be enjoyed as is - and peoples’ decreased concept of time have companies putting things out with out any space in between-but that space is so crucial in creative spaces like these because it allows the growth a progression to flourish, while exploring the possibilities. Things need the time to be what they are and grow as they are. Everything doesn’t need to be real, relatable or instant. And right now realism, relatability (to who I don’t really know anymore), and instant gratification is plaguing the artistic world in a way that it feels like there’s no room for wonder or thought out what if’s, making adaptations tropy or one-dimensional - and ‘preferably’ as real as possible aka as a film with real people in it. Also, I think that people sometimes make adaptations to be like- “fixed it” - kind of mentality. It’s a bit concerning. I feel a lot like adaptations are people’s ways of garnering attention for themselves or what they want to do/would rather do as a fan of this thing (or not). For example, an ongoing popular adaptation trope is Greek Mythology - even when it gets mixed up with Roman Mythology. People have been adapting that for eons it seems loll and it’s endless. It so old now though that people give too much liberty from the original sources and sometimes people don’t even bother to read the original sources (or at least as original as it can get). -sometimes I think people play that kind of waiting game. Cause people are possessive over popular characters that they connect to or feel like they have strong development opinions on- but if THEIR version is received “better” or more, then they can be known for it just as much as the creators -or more. And that’s where I find a fine line of a problem with all of it. It’s like that thin fence of when people sell fan art at the same cost as their own original works and make a profit from it- I don’t think that’s really ethical because the material isn’t originally that artist’s, it belongs to another artist. And the details of something being so widespread with fan art and adaptations being encouraged can make things complex as to when to profit off their version or the original, which in essence is still profiting off the original because the base ideas weren’t theirs. People take advantage of when something becomes wide reaching. -that’s kind of how I feel about adaptations and the like, recently. It’s become more of people taking advantage of something widespread rather than the what if exploration of the worlds that it used to be. How far are people going to go just to be part of something? How much will they remove the backstories and charms and details that made the characters they love so robust, just to steak their flag in the ground, y’know? I can understand you protecting the fort loll and as you can see you have a community of people that feel the same in their own ways. Comics can and should stand in their own. They’re a medium that can weather time and flex the possibilities and engage imagination. It’s cool to see the likes of Superman and Batman look different but identifiably the same throughout the years and I think that’s uniquely possible because of the kind of medium comics are. It would be sad if that got overlooked by cartoon or film adaptations. Sorry this was long. Thank you for all that you do and creating this space! 😊
I really feel you about this. I agree with you on all of this. I don’t want storylines to made just so they can be adapted and characterization to change to match a different version of them, but I still do enjoy the adaptations. I’m tired of seeing unnecessarily influence the comics in a big way because of adaptation. I mostly read DC who isn’t as bad with it but still do it every now and then, but on the occasions I do read Marvel I really see that they are going head first into this adaptation stuff.
You know what Sasha... You are goddamm right! I just understood why I like your channel, you really are a very nuance type of voice in a sea of people that keep saying the same thing... In my case, I am just done with anything regarding the MCU... I am just tired, and seen this adaptations galore (not just MARVEL, but STAR WARS as well) made me recognize I made the right decision in abandoning ship. As for comics, its sad that I started collecting as much as I can just recently (like a couple of years) Its been a fine journe, since a lot of things I want are really easy to find, but others not so much. As for adaptations and the consequences for comics... Yeah, you are absolutely right, but I think its worse than that... Most of the people working in comics right now seem to want the great "Netflix deal" to make a movie or a TV Show and just make a comic with that in mind (not just MARVEL but the industry in general) shame that only a few people have the strength to trust in the media to create something that is actually worthwhile in the pages, but at least its more rewarding finding them... In that realm, have you seen something that has catched your atention? I have... Talk about Kamen America! its just so good and cheesy, I love it!
I appreciate that you don't chase trends, like doing trailer reactions and the like, because, yeah, that is overly saturated and there's only so many ways you can present something like that. It's not as if you aren't covering new material within the comics but I have a lot more fun learning about how many different people Lois Lane has married than seeing the umpteenth take about who was cast as what in the new movie by x studio. Also it is interesting that you brought up how the comics are starting to reflect the movie universes in terms of personalities and likenesses (in some cases, I'm sure) when that started in the comics in the 00s with stuff like Agent Fury going from being a white guy in the 616 universe to being straight up Samuel L. Jackson in the Ultimates and then it came full circle with him being cast in the MCU. I'm sure this wasn't the only time this happened as I recall that in The Boys "wee" Hughie looked very much like Simon Pegg, so much so that Pegg commented at the time the series was ongoing that he wouldn't mind playing the part in an adaptation. I dunno, I'm of two minds when it comes to synergy stuff, growing up in the 90s and really getting into comics in the mid 00s I remember that most of the new properties from the DCAU had their own comics that kind of worked and kind of didn't. Yes Teen Titans had been a thing forever but the show was a whole different thing and so it had it's own comic to explore those characters, Batman Beyond had its own comic to explore the world that the show created. I like when that stuff happens because it gives you more time with those characters and those personalities, I'm not overly fond of that type of integration for the main continuities because now you're chasing trends that won't last forever. Batman and Superman have been around for approaching 100 years and there have been a fair number of tv and film adaptations for both characters, changing things because the movies are popular, at the time, leads to it just being a footnote in history, something the next generation Sasha will be covering and talking about "hey, remember when Iron Man became Robert Downey Jr. and still nobody bought comics? that was a thing, let's talk about it". Maybe I'm just bitter because I find the MCU kind of boring and don't want that blandness to bleed into other aspects of Marvel
Do not change. I watch your channel because you talk about the comics. I have learned so much about comics and the story behind the story because of your receipts. Thank you.
Best to address it at a case to case basis. Some characters will benefit from their film counterparts, some will lose their history. I personally would like Miles Morales to adopt his film's characterisation to make him more unique. But I don't wish any of the MCU Scarlet Witch to simplify the comic version's personification of a powder keg hot mess
I'm with 100%. I didn't have access to comic books as a child, so I'm really happy that I can listen to you telling different stories. I get the idea of changing the characters in the comics a little bit, it suits the era we live in, and still I would like them to keep both media not to close.
I agree, I don't want to see the source material diluted, because I love comics. I learned to read from "Spidey Super Stories" in the 70s, and comics have almost always been a part of my life. By the same token, it is a byproduct of the fact that so many of the recent adaptations are *so* good, that they have the potential to transcend their source material. As someone who remembers the "dark times" before the 1989 Batman movie (think straight-to-video Dolph Lundgren Punisher and not-even-to-video Cap movie with rubber ears), I also recognize that there are worse problems to have. If even 1% of movie viewers decide to pick up a comic and get hooked, I see this as an absolute win. I just want to have my cake and eat it too. In any case, thanks for another excellent video and your willingness to start the conversation!
I feel like superhero comics are constantly evolving and iterative, your channel is a perfect documented of that phenomenon. In some cases I’ve liked the changes wrought by MCU adaptations (Tony Stark) and is some cases not (Quicksilver). But in general I see these changes as something that has always been organic to the genre, in print or other media. My apprehension, however, is that the MCU would enforce a permanent uniformity on these characters, which I think would be detrimental long term. Part of the reason the MCU works so well is that it has 60 + years of lore and character iteration to draw from, simultaneously pulling ideas from many different decades. The danger would be if they stifle that experimentation and over standardize. There is a possibility of that , but there is also the possibility that changing times and new generations of fans will require the MCU to change, just as comics changed over time.
Sasha! I Don't want to be creepy but at first I thought how lovely you looked without lippy but then you mentioned almond milk (I'm allergic) & all I could think about was brutal exploding headaches. Meanwhile, I'm totally with you on the love & respect for the original print forms as a Worthy Artform in themselves. Also, as a person who dug some of these comics from issue ONE I love that they finally got the movies right. CGI is an amazing thing, bringing to life a lot of what I saw in my mind's eye as a kid. Your random chit chat is extremely articulate & entertaining! love Steve Holliday
I completely agree with you, Sasha, adaptations have lots to contribute to the characters and stories from the comics the originate from, but at the same time could FOR SURE dilute the characters or influence the characterisation of these characters. It’s sad but I think Disney and marvel will probably change the characterisation of the comic book characters to fit the movie characters more, so that they can introduce more people whose only introduction to this deep rabbit hole of comics is the movies. While this may not be a bad thing because this means more business for the dying comic book industry...ultimately I think it doesn’t do the decades of characterisation of some of these characters justice sometimes.
Who cares about the lipstick when youve got that amazing hair! Even though your channel isn't focused on movies and tv adaptations I would love to hear your opinions on them maybe as a collab with another channel or a one off video now and then.
Movies have always affected the comics they are adapted from. Look how the fortress of Solitude in the Christopher Reeves Superman movie took over as the definitive design. I miss the giant key. Also, wig is definitely on point.
I absolutely cracked up at the break to put on lipstick. I've been having the opposite problem where I put on lipstick on instinct and then remember that I have to put a mask on.
Adaptations that change the in canonical comic character to match its live action depiction can improve a mediocre character from the comics , as first the 90’s Spider-Man animated series, then the Wesley Snipes film trilogy ( I know the 3rd one sucked) did for Blade, or can take a Favorite Legendary Character and make it a poor parody of what it was intended to be, as the Batman 60’s TV series did until Frank Miller ( Thank God) brought back the Dark Knight. But Sasha just remember one of your favorite sayings “At the Time of this Recording” because no matter what direction they take a character, some future writer will take it in a different direction, & the Characterization you enjoyed is always still there for your enjoyment
Looool I was watching this video hey Sasha is going bare lips we super casual, then she noticed and threw it on. The hair colour scheme is pretty amazing btw
I am a big fan of adaptations that respect the array of history that came before it rather than trying to be some kind of definitive version. Even when an adaptation takes a hard turn in a different direction, whether widely successful or not, it's nice to see the depths they can pull from the material that came before it. For example, I do not particularly like Teen Titans Go, but I would totally use Lady Legasus if I were to make some kind of Teen Titans adaptation because the basic idea has a lot to explore whether you continue down the more comedic line or something more serious. There's an opportunity to connect with different kinds of fans in a way that makes both feel seen. I absolutely resonate with the homogenizing problem you're kind of speaking to. I like for people to like the stuff that I do and to be interested in engaging with it, especially from a contrasting point of view, and you get more of that when they're allowed to be for someone else. That extends to this tendency to treat gritty and dark as inherently mature and light-hearted and silly as inherently immature and then pushing mediums to be more exclusively one rather than a constellation of all of them. And I'm someone who leans towards liking dramatic over comedic.
Your feelings on the subject are definitely shared. It’s easy to see influences back-flowing from movies to the comics just to make film fans feel welcome. I have to admit that while there are many comics that I love that would not exist without independent creators and have no hope for horizontal media marketing to transform them to other mediums, I yearn to see some of them get that boost. Of course, would a boost up to a more visible pop culture spotlight then ruin the very things I love about them? Give me a moment while I check on the box where I keep the cat the belongs to my friend, Schrödinger.
If we’re talking about how adaption shape the source material, then we gotta go back to the first time that happened: Alfred Pennyworth. That’s right, in his original appearance in the comics Alfred was not Bruce’s butler but instead more of a bumbling detective character I believe, it was actually Batman film serials that Alfred was made into the faithful butler, which in turn bleed back into the comics, turning him into the Alfred we all know and live today. That’s always an interesting thing, to me, to think about, when thinking about how adaptations influence source.
Yup that’s the one, specifically it was called The Bat’s Cave: Honestly though, the only Batman serial I’ve watched is the titled Batman and Robin, and that was Rifftrax version. And oh boy, was that a ride. But anyway, I just find it interesting that Alfred can be considered the first character to be influenced by an adaptation.
I definitely feel this. I don’t get this so much from the new slate of shows (wandavision, Loki and falcon &ws) but I get this feeling a lot with the next slate (ms marvel, ironheart etc). Those characters are so new to the comics. The turnaround speed is breakneck.
i couldn't agree with you more!! one of the things that got me into reading comics were the onscreen adaptations, but mainly dc's back in the late 2000s/early 2010s because even though they were varied from the characters i saw onscreen, a lot of the people adapting these comics got what the characters were like at their cores. so, despite bruce being nearly 40 or in his early 40s in the comics, he was still the same character i saw in the young justice cartoon and the same batman i loved in b:tas and the time burton movies. finding the differences and similarities was so much fun, and finding out more of the batfamily's other members was even better. i fell in love with the comics and the characters in them so much, especially the younger characters (probably because i was in my teens and i could relate more to them than bruce, lol). unfortunately, i didn't have the same luck with marvel. i tried reading through a lot of characters but the differences i found were more jarring. the one who picked up my eye the most was black widow. but the more i read of her comics and the clearer her character became to me, the less interested i became in the movie version. natasha in the comics has such a rich and long history which was crammed into a few mentions in a few movies rather than being explored onscreen. she doesn't often play main hero in teams-ups in neither version, so she's often relegated to being an afterthought for the men fighting onscreen. it was...very disappointing. i even started referring to her as two different characters in my head: natalia is the comic version that is near and dear to my heart, natasha is the movie version that i enjoy less. i had to stop catching up with the mcu and marvel as a whole because her movie interpretation started becoming one with comics (to the point where artists just drew scarlett johansson instead) and considering i didn't like that version very much, it was too heartbreaking for me to bear. name of the rose remains one of my favorite, top tier comicbooks stories, and her romance with bucky is one of my otps in comics. almost batcat level. sadly, i also noticed that this has been happening with dc comics for the last couple of years too. at first it was characters changing looks to suit their movie counterparts, which was fine. i enjoy dying my hair different colors every few months too. then it was the way they're written both as characters and how their relationships work. i had to jump ship there because watching bruce ignore his children and harley make a fool of herself in new, low ways every two weeks was too much for my faint heart. it's been almost two years since i sat down and read a superhero comic truly enjoyed or immediately left feeling "ah, yes, i can almost see how they're going to put this on my laptop screen." fortunately, i found your channel this past month and now I'm learning about all the things I've missed that are tickling my curiosity and making me want to go back. the harley quinn black + white + red series sounds promising, as well as the new addition of punchline into batman mythos, and your excitement for them has me excited for them too, so i have i feeling i might check those out soon enough.
The quality of the humor, subject matter expertise and sheer fun of this channel is unmatched. Thank you for the awesome content Sasha! I think this is the best wig of a host of awesome wigs.
This is probable the most personal video and topic I see you discuss. The fact comic book characters are more popular now thanks to the movie, television series/web streaming series,and even video games but the medium that started them the page comic is dying is the ultimate irony. It is difficult to introduce people to the comics when they are more used to the adaptation versions. I hope they can bridge the gap when I was young what introduce me to Spider-Man was the 1960s cartoon. Later I did read the comics noticed some differences but I got to understand and bridge the difference it is a shame newer generations cant bridge the differences.
I think some people imagine adaptations to be made for existing fans of certain characters or teams like “here’s someone you’ve always wanted to see on the screens” and some people imagine adaptations to be “how can we make this character as marketable and wide-reaching to potential new fans” but they don’t really do either. Adaptations more often than not come across more as Alternate Universes (AUs) or Elseworlds and they’d be more interesting if they just embraced that from the get-go. Less chance of characterizations being changed in the source material. Also I love the wig, beautiful colors!
I feel similar to you about adaptations. I love them when they stay true to the source material, but it can become a bit confusing and hard to digest, for me, when Hollywood and mainstream media start creating their own source materials. I do feel it can ruin the fandom a bit. Like with the Star Wars franchise. Many of the OG fans were outraged with how they handled the newer ones. Then it becomes confusing when trying to follow what is now considered cannon vs legend. Also, your wig game is on point!
Please keep doing what you're doing with these. I'm tired of reaction videos and "comics are dying" videos. I come here to enjoy my love of comics and the form (including all my old silver age and bronze age comics with their silly stories) and am glad you're making content that celebrates the silly and the fun side of comics as well as the history.
This has been one of your best videos. I agree wholeheartedly, comics and the mess they make of continuity have an appeal other media lack. There is a move towards immediate gratification and we are losing a lot in the process.
This video perfectly encapsulates why I have the biggest intellectual(& physical tbh❤️) crush on you Madam(?)! Your devotion to the medium and endless natural charm is awesome to behold! You are hitting on a subject that in recent years is a bizarre double edged sword. The comics to film/tv back to comics ouroboros isn’t a new phenomenon but it is certainly becoming more frequent as of late. Its especially worrisome as companies like Warner Bros seem to now only view DC as an IP incubator, which is a shame. As Ive stated before just the fact that you are discussing this topic elates me! Plus that whole lipstick moment is the icing on the cake! Lol Cheers! ❤️😜
I can appreciate the focus on comics. My personal history with most of these IPs is through cartoon series' but having a cool, chill, charismatic cutie explain to me the history of these characters and various stories in their original form in a fun format is has made me appreciate comics as someone who for most of my life up to now, didn't care much. Everyone and their goat does movie reactions and reviews as you said, and many other comic talks I've seen focus on the state of the industry itself and not really the stories. So I thank you Sasha, a whole bunch.
I feel you, Sasha. The FIRST comic Book I remember that had any real tie in to a TV series was the original run of the Super Friends that tied in with the animated Series that began back in 72. The comic was done in a very similar style to the TV series (the first issues even had artwork that resembled the animation style) and even included Wendy, Marvin, and Wonder Dog. I know that when they did the Batman TV series the altered the Comics to make them more campy, in line with the series, but that was a few years before my time as I was a baby during the original run of the show. Later shows and movies were less tied to the comics, like the Dr. Strange Movie from the 70's, or the two Captain America Movies from the 70's or even the Hulk and Spiderman Live Action TV shows from that same time period (although other than the absence of any real super villains the Spider Man series was closer to the source material than any of the others, with the exception of Wonder Woman which was also extremely source accurate. My hope had always been that someone would not only bring more comic book characters to either the big screen, or the small screen, but that they would do them accurately, and by accurately I mean word for word, panel for panel, and page for page just the way I had read them. That, of course hasn't happened, although I will admit that some of the animated DC movie based on the Justice League have been considerably closer to the source material than other things. I do like seeing the characters on screen, although I wish they would do more comic accurate costumes for both DC AND Marvel shows and movies ( I was REALLY disappointed that they didn't five Hawkeye his purple outfit, and apparently so was Jeremy Renner the actor that portrayed him as he came to really like the look during his research for the character. Overall I like a LOT of what has been done, not all of it (am NOT a fan of Gotham by Gaslight) but I do wish more of what they did was in line with the undiluted comic portrayals, or that they are going to have the movies diverge so much then let them diverge and we can think of them as just another reality.
I think I feel mixed too? Like I have absolutely loved a lot of the adaptations that have come out! And I am really excited to see the new MCU shows, like I want to know what another creative teams take on a character or event is, even if I end up not liking it. But yeah it's super disappointing going to a store and seeing comics that seem more like advertisements for the movies than its own story. I LOVE that wig btw! It look so good!
Thank you for not being a channel of reaction videos and topical media news. I really appreciate that your videos are always something I wouldn't expect and didn't even know I wanted. The only thing that seems to dictate your video topics is your personal interest and I really respect that.
for me what i look for in adaptations is like the pure distilled feeling of the comic they are based on, something i can show someone whos never read a comic so they can get interested in comics. Much like how early anime (and still some current anime) is used to market their source material be it manga, light novels or games.
Thank you for bringing up this topic. It has a lot of meat to it, and touches on one of my favorite aspects that make comic books such a unique media. The characters are changing and malleable. There is a lot variability on what a writer can do with a character they don't own, and will not have exclusive control over. Over the decades a character will often times evolve and fill out. What makes long running characters interesting is often times a hundreds different interpretation of a character ingested by the public and responded to by the next generation of writers. The elements that are more compelling, about a character, will often times stick, and moving forward become a pillar of the character. I see the MCU of a strong adaptation of the comics, that takes the best traits of the last 50 years of these comic characters, and condense them down to what we think of them today. These characters will not always be what they are today, but that is not a bad thing. Some of the most celebrated characters mean different thing to different people at different time periods. The writers will inevitably have to respond to those versions of the characters in the MCU while looking back at the trades. Some of it good and interesting and some of it predictable and forgettable. Usually the good stuff sticks, though sometimes you have to wait a couple of years and wade though a bunch mediocrity to get to the good stuff.
After talking about adaptations so much, that just makes me want to hear you talk about Judge Dredd. The adaptations started terrible, then you had a good movie that was still a big departure from the source material. I feel like more people need to read that comic.
The television and movies was my gateway to comics. As I get so deep into a show or movie that I like, I discover there's more to them underneath, from the comics that they were adapted from. So, I really love them both. The way I treat the main comic continuity and the cinematic and TV continuities is that they're separate worlds in the multiverse, capable of standing on their own, existing in their own space. That way, when they did something I didn't like on the screen or the screen did something better than the comics, I would not be disappointed by either of these mediums that I love. If that makes sense.
I kinda agree with comics seem to not be given time to shine and mass rush for big and small screen adaptations and there's nothing wrong with that but I do enjoy the original source material of the comics themselves personally I'm glad that your channel just focuses on the comics and not doing trailers and stuff cuz as you said there are plenty of those out there the way you format your videos and focus just on the comics is plus in my book. I would like to see more chit chat videos also.
First of all, keep doing you. I love the content you bring to your channel. I can do my bitching and moaning about how things used to be and why everything sucks (damn I'm old) on other channels where it's not appreciated. Here we get the quick reviews, the awesome voice overs (really...is that how superman sounds), the reminders that all of this was done before and the receipts to prove it, and a renewed love for all things comics. Also, feel free to go all na-tru-all lips anytime. I don't mind adaptations as long as the main theme and scope of the original source work is maintained. Of course this is also why I hate going to see the movie adaptation of a book, after I have read the book. The movie is usually good in it's own right, but the details that I might gravitate to in the book, usually don't make the final cut or is given too insignificant a reference in the movie for my taste. But I also agree with you about not supplanting the source with the adaptation. Perhaps if more movie and television production studios looked at comic books and other inspirational mediums as independent partners rather than competition for eyeballs, there might be a growth of original ideas on all sides.
I do like your wig. I just took a class on Optics and one of the topics was holograms and how they are made (the holograms we have in stickers and credit cards and pokemon cards, not sci-fi). I'd be willing to bet someone could imprint a holographic image on a wig relatively easily....
I totally understand where you're coming from. I'm also very protective of the comic book properties that I love, particularly the X-Men. No matter how much superhero media comes out, I will always come back to comics and continue to read them.
I wrote that last comment halfway through the video, and now you're moving your hands around so much, that I thought I should come back and correct myself? I love your show.
I don't have much to say other than I couldn't agree with you more on all points. I never thought I'd see the day where I'm wary of adaptations affecting the source material as opposed to the inverse. Also, gurl, dat hair be fiyah 🔥
I agree with you about the comics can just... be. And by extension, so can your channel. I enjoy your channel so much because you do all the legwork I can’t do and present it in a most entertaining way. I already follow MCU breakdown people. I come to you for comics, and you deliver. I understand changing with times and evolution, but you are the historian that helps keep perspective and respect for the old ways haha
I read comics as a kid because they were a far more adventurous and deep form of storytelling. Stories like the Phoenix standing trial for genocide were far more challenging than anything on Knight Rider or The A-Team. Comics also had a limitless budget for the stories to go anywhere in space and time, but still had realistic characters like Guy Gardener or The Thing who were broken, imperfect heroes. Television is now not just 26 episode ‘villain of the week’ shows any more, as it tries to ape the detailed but serialised storytelling from comics, but with the budget and cinematography from the big screen (which is also losing big IP like Star Wars and the Lord Of The Rings to TV). I appreciate all of my dreams becoming reality of seeing She-Hulk of Sandman on a screen, and it’s definitely improved our standard of 45 minute viewing from 30 years ago. The fact the entire world now knows who Thanos would have blown my mind at 10 years old... even though they ignored his romance with the anthropomorphic entity of Death which makes more sense than him being evil intergalactic Greenpeace. I agree that if kids can get Super-Man and Spider-Man on screens (as well as Doom Patrol and Ms Marvel), then they don’t need to pick up comics, and there is a fear that they won’t use their imagination to fill in the blanks, and become storytellers themselves. And even worse the idea of print comics will be gone (over here in the UK we’ve lost The Beano and Dandy as actual paper comics). Comics are the punk rock of literature and storytelling, and without the medium, it makes a barrier for young artists and writers to create weird and wonderful tales where budgets and the values, standards and practises of multimedia empires aren’t stopping them from creating.
I agree with you totally, I just wonder how many new people getting into the comics industry met "movie" (insert character) first. And are now making movie version the jumping off point. The good and bad about something as massive as the MCU is it's success not as one shot movies, but as one of the most successful large interconnected multimedia projects EVER means a lot of kids and young adults will casually have the films define a definitive version of these characters for them. The one good thing about DC kinda being all over the place with their film universe is for the most part, there aren't real life actors who heavily have taken on a firm hold in pop culture. There's been some movie bleed backwards, but not as much as Marvel I don't think.
I say: I like your channel. You go through comic both old and new and you do a fantastic review of those comics. You really promote reading and learning orginal comics and storylines. Keep it up!🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗👍
A. I love the new wig, it might be my favorite one. 2. I'm with you on the adaptation front, it has the potential to be so much more but I hate when it veers too far off the source material, or feels like it misses the point to me. The most concerning adaptation I currently have is Grand Admiral Thrawn in Star Wars, the original Thrawn Trilogy made me fall in love with reading, he is such an interesting character and we never got enough of him, so far in the cartoons they have adapted him perfectly, but I am still concerned for the live action adaptation, and what they do with him for post ROTJ, feasibly they could still use his same or similar storyline just with different heroes then the OT heroes, but I feel it won't hit the same. I still feel like we were robbed not getting that series as the sequel trilogy. Personally comics adapted into cartoons has always felt like the most fluid and best use of adaptation. I think cartoons are the best medium for comics storytelling as you don't get the gaps one would get in the comics, and you can consume the whole story yet generally the adaptations don't change much. Except when it's bad... looking at you Killing Joke. So yes much like you I am conflicted, I love seeing comics brought to life, and when an adaptation is done well I think it deserves its praise, but it feels like that is often a 60% meh 30% suck 10% hit
I’ll admit as much as I love the MCU I do not like all their adaptations like what they did with Scarlet Witch and Spider-Man. And half the time they don’t get the story correct
Personally I like dc more yes there movies are not always the best to put it nicely but they always try something different just look at they upcoming dc movies and the upcoming marvel movies I also think they are more close to the material . They are less predictive if you put on a marvel movie with in 20 minutes I would be able to tell you all the main story lines
@Alain Smith Thor was always at least partly comedic. Walt Simonson, arguably the most legendary Thor author/artist, turned him into a frog for more than a year. An argument can be made that MCU Thor is very NOT comedic in that he displays all of the signs of a man going through a grief spiral and PTSD. Go ahead and laugh at his "dad-bod" but don't forget that by the end of Endgame, he's lost (in about ten years) both his parents, his brother, and two of his closest friends.
Girl, love the hair today. It's amazing! And, the retro sweater is fab. On more important things, I'm glad you discuss comics for comics' sake. Not every video is a winner, but for the most part your videos are captivating and entertaining. You pose interesting questions. Keep up the good work! Hugs❣
i dig the synergy between comics and the film adaptations. Like when Supergirl had a headband in the comics in the 80s. The artists were made to add that headband because the actress in the movie was going to have a sweatband. Then she didn't. People complain about movies changing things, but some of that shit from the comics doesn't work for a movie adaptation, like the giant squid in the Watchmen comic.
Casually Editorializing is alright with me. I'm hear for it. To borrow from the Anime world as an example, having distinctly divergent interpretations of a work can be rewarding. Once I watched The Grudge and Ju-On alternating back and forth scene for scene just to compare the two. It was the first and only time I viewed either film.
A perfect example would be the Phoenix, she's my absolute favorite character aside from Emma Frost but every time you see her brought to the big screen they manage to fuck it up, the Phoenix Saga is not a one-and-done movie, at the very least it should be a trilogy.
I know right
Its was originally supposed to be a 2 parter but the fox Disney merger ruined it :( they were also gonna use scrolls and the shira empire but they didnt have the rights and Disney threatened to sue them
An Xmen trilogy about that one arc? Good luck with that. It would get boring before the 3rd movie.
I agree. The bit they always forget is that the Dark Phoenix Saga was just the pay off to much longer arc. You don't necessarily need multiple movies dedicated to it but you at least need to have it as a steadily building subplot. Dark Phoenix without... you know... Phoenix is redundant.
@@tomthespaceknerd5396 right the dark phoenix began with the hellfire club taking over her mind and maker her one of their queen before prof lock her down.
Yeah the adaptations definitely dominate over comics, sometimes I like when they take inspiration like Mr Freeze but I'm not so much a fan of comics being written solely for adaptation
I'm totally okay with comic book characterization and storylines being Rewritten for an adaptation if it's done well but I don't like it when it bleeds back into the comic
😂😂 facts #myecomics
I see this more with Marvel but not too much with DC. (If there is let me know)
@@eqs1782 I think that’s because Marvel’s live action movies tend to resonate more with people. (That’s my nice way of saying that the DC cinematic universe is kind of a mess.)
Does this mean there won't be a Sasha's Wig Cinematic Universe?
Maybe lois will marry the wigs. Lol
Superman is transformed into a wig. Science? Magic? Who cares! CONTINUITY!
Mod WW fights Lois for the Wig Collection
So. Many. Colors. And styles!!!
The WCU (Wig Cinematic Universe) has to use lesser known wigs because Sasha sold off the rights to her better wigs in order to pay for almond milk.
Bare Lip Sasha is precious, be proud lovely
lol I love my bare lips but not when I have a lipstick planned and forgotten on the counter, lol all must be as I envisoned
@@CasuallyComics The keikaku must be perfect
Yes too true😤
I agree. Anyone can look great with makeup. But I was very on-board with this no-makeup look. I hope we get more in the future.
@@CasuallyComics "all must be as i envisioned" ... ... ... super villain quote of the week? Catch phrase? [Insert reactionary trope] moment?
Punchline is sueing you for the hair 😂
You could say that she...
beat her to the punch
@@alejandropradillaamador6435 😭😭😭✋🏽
Punchline wishes her hair was that fabulous
@@thekinglydragon that why she is sueing shes jealous
@@alejandropradillaamador6435 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼Bra-fucking-vo!!!! You won youtube for that one!
That wig is FASCINATING! How does the light hit it like that!
Dye, I believe
@@Raven-cn3tr she's said she wears wigs before in videos. But that looks like dye lol. So idk.
The wig lifeee
It is a fire wig
@@vindozadm7772I tried googling 'fire wig' and that sounds like the right direction! Though results were mostly red-orange ombre wigs. Do you know if there's a website that sells those or a specific brand that makes them?
I yelled “YES GIRL” more than a few times during this video.
Same Usually out of my friends Im the only one who has a few concerns over the MCU. So its nice to hear someone also has similar concerns
Personally, I think that the best adaptations are the ones that draw from the source material but create a new story and new characters that can stand alone outside of comics. I also think It's interesting when you have a comic like Under the red hood (which spanned several issues) be adapted to an animated DC movie that still in some cases followed the plotline almost exactly, without losing too much of the characterizations that made the comic book special. We need more of those honestly.
Under The Red Hood was a great movie.
@@thomasraines1396 omg yes it was. It has ages so well I top
Of that!
@@akuaowusu-ofori2212 it’s one of my favorite superhero movies.
@@thomasraines1396 Mind too! I think the red hood is my favorite anti-hero and I’m glad they gave him a movie. He’s too interesting not to get one ☝️
@@akuaowusu-ofori2212 yep, such a great movie. And then they did that “Death in the Family” which was weird as it basically redid Under The Red Hood in the style of a choose your own adventure thing.
My fear is when a character gets a type cast actor and the characters becomes the actor that was one of my fears when Benedict Cumberbatch got cast as Dr Strange but that went better than expected. In comics both Hawkeye’s are probably in my top 5 of favourite characters but I don’t especially like Jeremy Renner playing hims because even though he has his moment Jeremy is just popular but unimportant enough that they do things like cancel Hawkeye cameos because they don’t see him as worth enough to interrupt zjerrem’s schedule. I really got into Hawkeye through the Earths Mightiest hero cartoon and Kate Bishop through the Matt Fraction run and I’m really excited for the upcoming Hawkeye Show but also worried it’ll be shot around Jeremy Renner’s schedule to it’s detriment because of his music career and that if there interpretation of Kate could change her character forever. I hope the series introduces his weird mostly circus themed rouges gallery but him having a family is already so much of a deviation I have no clue if the circus stuff is even cannon in the MCU.
Reading this back I’m just rambling again so I’m going to stop.
2:13 is us viewing in on how "Tangent Sasha" focuses in on the minor details of anything that seems "off" and will stop everything to make sense and try to fix it. So good!
I don't think she looked bad with the naked lips. Didn't even notice until she pointed it out.
Lmao I have whole outfits planned in my head before I film these so I was like wait a minute I've forgotten something
As much I love comics, I LOVE the MCU too, and I like you, I'm grateful for adaptations, but miss the original comics take too. MCU Star-Lord is rad, but now every version of him is that, but I do miss the 2008 version, who was voiced by Master Chief in EMH. On the other side, both GOTG and Captain Marvel had better success out of comics, hell, Eternals and Ironheart will follow that same direction. Since Marvel Studios output is consistent, we'll be getting at least all of these, and I can't freaking wait to be fed!
Came here to say exactly that. The James Gunn MCU versions of the GOTG have in turned sort of ruined the comic book versions.
I have read the ORIGINAL Star-Lord stories from the 70's, when he appeared in a couple of b&w comics they had back then. His origin was connected to an astronomical alignment, similar to what happened that occurred when Jesus was born, and why there was 1 star that appeared brighter than the others over Jerusalem (science meeting religion!!). His next appearance was in a John Byrne story where we see his original ship had the power to go INSIDE STARS to power up!
I love those stories, but the character was mostly unknown and forgotten. In the 90's that changed and he was reintroduced, but he was different. It's just the nature of comic characters, they change with the writers, authors, and audience. Whether the influence is movies, tv, or other comics, it's the nature of the art form.
Yeah I agree. There is also black panther who never had a huge comics success on its own but made a freaking billion on the theatre
I agree but I also feel like the Kevin is shoving a lot of stuff into the MCU. Which is weird cause my biggest complaint was I want more MCU shows/Movies or at least have the Hulu/Netflix/ABC shows to be acknowledged or have some effect on the MCU movies.
Agreed. I miss the Star-Lord I was introduced to in the comics. He wasn't a immature goofball. Peter had a sense of humor, but he was someone who felt the weight of the galaxy on his shoulders and took the Guardians' job very seriously. I can only hope that his character is allowed to mature in the MCU.
Your wig is trippy 😭 it’s soooo cool
Something about how hart felt this and how much emotion make it so clear how much you love this medium
I want you, Sasha, to continue to do exactly what you're doing. I think it's great that you focus on comics, both new and old. But we have to remember that there have _always_ been adaptations of comics, right from the very beginning of the comic book phenomenon. Superman Cartoons from the 40's, _The Batman_ shorts also from the 40's. _The Adventures of Captain Marvel_ predating both of them. Feature films and radio, and so forth. There will _always_ be crossovers and adaptations, and we will always need people to focus on one and let other people focus on the other. Batgirl is one of the most popular comic book characters of all time, yet she originated on TV (admittedly concurrently to introducing her to the comic) the same as Harley Quinn and other villains like Egghead. So do what you do and don't worry about the adaptations. Enjoy them for what they are and enjoy the comics for what they are, and accept that the two of them will influence each other. We as humans are creative creatures, but we are also mimics. We incorporate what we consume into what we create. Sometimes this produces greatness.
I always like how the animated shows i grew up with kept the stories very close to source material. X-men TAS is a good example of this. Years later their Phoenix Saga adaptation is still the best adaptation of the story. As for comic books staying comic books , I agree with Sasha. Every time Marvel tries to imitate the movies it make me pull my hair because it screws up continuity really bad (see Starlord's origin and personality). I think Marvel and DC don't have faith in their comic books anymore, they don't believe that they can stand on their own like before. They have be copies of other forms of media to be successful (remember when Marvel's comics had post credits scenes 😒 )That's really sad.
The mileage certainly varies when it comes to comic book adaptions into different mediums. I think the level of respect for comics DEFINITELY makes a difference in the execution of interpretations. Because its no secret that in America comics are erroneously looked down upon, by little minds, as a lesser medium.
Unrelated question; Do you write any outlines/bulletpoints/scripts for your videos? Or is this all free form commentary? Because either way you have great natural delivery.
I support your focus on the original comic books 👍✌️🙂
I, for one, love that you focus exclusively on comics. It is very hard to find stuff like this and I appreciate your content just as it is! Thank you for sharing your thoughts and feelings about comics!
I...agree. I see how things have effected comics in that weird "synergy" way. And I worry about the comics I love because the message will get lost to become marketable. Some of the best stories are kind of dark. Like Tony and Carol struggling with alcoholism or the sentry's origin. The same with dc...
Love this video! I feel like Marvel has especially fallen victim to this problem due to the influx of new fans introduced through the MCU. It makes me sad because it feels as though the comics are slowly becoming more serviced toward those fans and not the ones who primarily enjoy the comics.
The popularity and love of comics have always and will always wax and wane like the phases of the moon.
Preach
I love that Sasha could have reshot her intro or edited out the non-lipstick moments, but she just went with it as if the video could only occur in real time.
I know I'm late to the party here, but thanks for this video. I love adaptations and while yes, now the market is over saturated with all the DC shows, Marvel movies and a bit of the other way around, I remember being a kid and thirsting for this so much. So I won't complain. And I am totally okay viewing adaptations as their own thing. But you put this thing that annoys me far more into words - when it's bleeding back. And then suddenly conversations start about "the one true interpretation of a character". Without actually acknowledging some convuluted history that shows that especially superhero comics have a pick'n'choose vibe (depending on authors and whatever the current social norms are).
Also a super minor thing, the constant re-starting with a number 1. It's for sales for sure, I know that. But this is linked with adaptations as well. Quick, let's start with #1 again, have two arcs and when we reach #12 it will be the conclusion. Then we have a special and then another #1. Which maybe boost sales for that #1, but it's super frustrating when trying to talk about something, keeping track of the volume and I miss this feeling of "XYZ issue 203". Even though with the internet today it's far easier to jump into comics, because with one search I can read decades worth of backstory of any team or character. And this need for streamlining seems to be for the new audience. I AM PRO NEW AUDIENCE AND NOT GATEKEEPING!!! Don't get me wrong here. Love nothing more than to point people to storylines they might enjoy.
Superhero comics are neverending soaps. Where movies and tv shows can't run forever like that. With aging actors for example. And we should talk about how different media are... well different. Movies are so easily digestible, fun popcorn entertainment with flashy action, yes, please, count me in. And I don't mind when two characters develop a different dynamic on-screen than I am used to from the paper panels.
Tony Stark is such a good example to pick. I never cared for him. Than came the MCU version and I think RDJ makes a terrific job. And I like this version with all the flaws, the cockiness, the mistakes and triumphs. But when I come across him now on the page... well, yeah, that's movie Tony. And no, I don't care for this version being in the comics now. I still don't care too much when he's in the stories I read (which on the Avengers side is mostly Captain Marvel, but I've been following Carol since forever and oh boy... talking about Carol is a Pandora's Box I like to keep shut).
btw thanks for showing The Boys as an example of an adaptation maybe being better than the book. I read a few issues way back, then just kept up with the overall story via reviews, just to see where it would go, but utterly turned off by the writing. And while I don't like everything about it (and I don't have to), I find the show very entertaining in new ways. That's awesome!
Daisy Johnson in the comics? Yeah, she's okay. Daisy Johnson from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.? I count her as one of my all-time fav tv characters next to Buffy Summers and Cristina Yang! TV allowed for a different way to tell her story (and Chloe Bennet is just so amazing *looking respectfully*)
X-Men are my chosen fictional family. I have been through so many ups and downs. If I have to chose my one fav character? It's Rogue. Actually easy decision (angsty formative influence from childhood? *check*). But while I hate The Last Stand for dozens of reasons, overall I enjoyed Fox' X-movies. With a hint of nostalgia some people nowadays don't get, because back in 2000 there was nothing like it. And while I have receipts for all the things that should be different in X1+2 (80% being about the characterization of the women *le gasp*), I still love watching those time and again. I'm sad The Gifted was cancelled (needed more Blink on my screen).
Kinda funny though, I guess the bleeding back from movie to comic didn't happen that much with the X franchise. The comics let Charles slip further and further down the shady path, movie goers still have no clue (he has his moments of overconfidence). Of course one of the biggest slaps to the face did happen because of adaptations and license shenanigans. Magneto and the Maximoff twins... *screams into pillow* The "you are not the father" moment wouldn't have happened in the comics on its own. That one still hurts.
Sometimes I flip through old Marvel issues and see Nick Fury. And while I KNOW, there is a second long double take "why is he white".
Also we need to talk about the people who make live action Batman and are afraid of giving him his Batfamily. It's funny to have two Batman fans, where one talks about Bruce as this lone brooding person, disconnected from society. And the other makes Bruce collecting orphans like Pokémon memes. Which brings me to the point that an adaptation should stand on its own. A little wink-wink nudge-nudge for fans is cool, but whenever I think about that random suit in BvS... well, I know who Robin is. I even remember a specific Robin being killed by the Joker. But if I watch Man of Steel and than Batman v Superman... it means n o t h i n g. And I'm sorry for any moviegoer who doesn't feel like picking up a comic book (or any adaptation that did pick up this storyline before or shows Bruce as the father to many he is). Sure, yes, Batman and Robin have entered the realm of common knowledge, but still, a little bit of effort when presenting adapted versions of known characters please?!
Comics are comics. Movies, tv, videogames are their own thing. And I think it's fine to maybe only focus on a character within a specific medium. Valid choice. And as nice as interconnectivity is, creators should treat different mediums as their own thing (of course you can have a videogame that specifically says "this is set in the movieverse version" or what-not).
I am LIVING for this holo wig. And also, MCU synergy isn’t always bad. It absolutely murdered the Guardians of the Galaxy comics, but it did revitalize properties like Runaways, Jessica Jones and in some cases even created properties, like Agent Carter and Agents of SHIELD.
Agreed it's a double edged sword for sure.
First, loving the wig, and you looked fine without the lippy 😉. Also, all the UA-camrs out there there's only you and Linkara who talk only about comics, that I can find (both amazing to watch).
And for me - adaptions just have to be. Neither are better or worse than the other, they should be just their own thing
I agree with the love/hate feeling towards synergy. I feel sometimes the movies and TV shows overcomplicate things or recognize the significance of what the characters have been through in the comics
Alan Moore is correct about adapting his works some things should just be comics. Some things can be adapted into other mediums very well. but comics were my first love and will remain so. and you may have convinced me to try almond milk, I never have.
Alan Moore is way too precious about comics that he writes on contract for others. Not to say that every adaptation of his work is a winner, but considering he's not going to make any more cash off of a Watchman or V For Vendetta movie, at least he could accept some credit as a co-creator and not be so universally churlish about it.
I very much agree on all points. Not all mediums are compatible and comics and movies have their own way of telling stories that don't always mesh well. Some adaptations can offer a fresh perspective, but far too few of them are creatively motivated.
Also almond milk is worth a try.
Have you heard or seen the movie Alan Moore is made/making (I only saw the trailer). But it looked like something that might have been better as a graphic novel.
um, personally I do like the fact that you focus in on the comics themselves. its not like your not clearly stating the overlap and influences that other media has on comics but its really is nice to "go to the source" as it were. I like to think of it as Shakespeare, there are lots of interpretations of his plays in different media and eras but you can always just read the original too and its just as good and seeing what and why people changed things, what did and didn't work (for its time or location) is just very interesting! it makes it a richer experience.
I agree. I'm primarly a MCU fan but i really enjoy (re)discovering the amazing and strange World of comics trough your channel ! It's unique in the best way
"There enough people doing that"
Thank you Sasha!! This is one of the reasons i subscribed
I hadn’t considered that. While I do enjoy some comics tying in, I do want them to say separate. Hopefully new adaptations of series will lead to collections of older runs being more accessible.
My concern with this recent batch of MCU adaptations is that in taking popular comic storylines and bending them into continuities that just don’t fit very well in the MCU will lead to subpar stories. At this point MCU continuity stands on its own so easily that attempting to execute storylines that exist in their own specific context seems pointless to me and may overshadow stories that stand well on their own in the comics
But maybe I’m being dramatic and talented storytellers may be able to pay homage to comics without butchering the originals.
Only show that interest me is WandaVision because of the concept. Hiding in sitcoms from the real world. Plus the actors really seem to love their roles and excited to explore a separate narrative.
No I think you're right when I heard they were making an Armor Wars, and Secret Invasion show my interest to return to the MCU after endgame died.
I've never really thought about if the comic authors were doing things specifically with the intention of having them adapted. I'll have to keep that in mind the next time I read something and see how I look at it now. Thanks for that perspective!
I agree very strongly with the things said in this video. An even more extreme element that you did not mention in this video is when horizontal marketing mandates reading/watching ALL the materiel to understand what is happening.
Like I'm a Star Wars guy and Disney's Star Wars has recently been using books and comics to explain away concepts that are either poorly explained or plotholes in the films. For God's sake, they even used Fortnite and it's done to such a large degree that the story will does not make complete sense unless you read the comics and books in addition to the movies.
I think this is very damaging to the film, comics, and books all as separate art forms and it's terrible for the story (and my wallet!) because now I have to go on multiple tangents in an in cohesive manner to get the whole story. And that's if I envy want to go through the effort of doing all that extra work, most people will not look into outside material, they will watch the movie and be done with it.
Overall, I do think this is a terrible way to tell a story. Have as many tie ins as you want I say, but never made them mandatory and don't use them to fox all the mistake you were too lazy to fix in your films. I want to just see the films and be done with it. Like I will think about a good films long after I see it and if I need comics and books to keep up my interest, it's a bad film. That's the most effective way to tell a story from narrative standpoint not to mention it save so much time and money.
This is why I like DC. Their movies and show exist in separate dimensions and allows other stories to be told.
You mean that DC's movies and shows are separate from each other? I guess that is a difference from Marvel, but I don't see how that is relevant to this conversation. In both Marvel and DC, the movies and shows are different universes from the comics.
@@KarlKristofferJohnsson exactly what i was about to say
You've put a lot of my feelings about these adaptations into somewhat better words than I can think of atm. I used to be super excited for adaptations but I'm never happy with them and the reverse bleed with changing the comics to be more like the movies or whatever upsets me a lot. In the end now adaptations either make me upset or leave me with indifference
I'm sad to say Armor Wars and Secret Invasion of the MCU kind of confirmed my indifference to thw future of the MCU.
@@eqs1782 I'm just here thinking how they're gonna pull off armor wars in the mcu, just can't figure it out. Secret invasion I smelled coming since the captain marvel movie
@@OmerAliuddin maybe I'm not smart enough but I don't see why the skrulls would invade earth when Captain Marvel helped them out. Maybe the Kree but they've been dealt with before on the shows. Maybe Ronan but he's dead. And secret invasion was fun because it had everyone and the heroes and villains didn't know who was a skrull or not. It was messy, brutal, and heartwrenching at some parts. I feel like this is just gonna be a lame cat and mouse spy thriller not that its bad but not the Secret Invasion I would want to see on the screen.
@@eqs1782 oh did they? I never watched the movie, but I speculated secret invasion coming regardless the moment the skrulls were introduced. I suspect you'll be right in what you're thinking here
Let's not forget how Marvel bent over backwards to give us Nick Fury Junior just so he could displace the OG Nick. Adaptations can be a gift or a curse. It's not easy.
I so appreciate your passion for comics. I heard DC is looking to go fully digital, and that makes me very sad. My life long comic buddy and I discussed the coming time when we'll sit near my comic book racks, reminiscing about the times when we could buy comics every week and read them in our hands. I feel like you might feel the same. Thanks Sasha!
The thing you said about comics being written/drawn solely for the big/small screen really hit me. I remember reading Moon Knight's last series and he had a limo that self-drives and all this tech and stuff. I was like, okay...then there was an issue that was pretty much devoid of any dialogue and all action (The issue where a girl was kidnapped and held in the top floor of an abandoned building complex). It was VERY cinematic. It was like I was just looking at a storyboard or a visual screenplay. So, it's all bleeding into each other for better or worse. It's how business works, I guess?
Bleedback as you put has always happened. Sometimes for better, like with Mr. Freeze and Harley Quinn, and sometimes for the worse like Star Lord (flame shields up). I think that comics biggest foe is people not wanting to feel like they're jumping into the middle of a story. They don't want to risk not knowing something and missing story bits because of it. It's kind of a shame really, because I'm usually having my most fun when I find something I don't know and going back and investigating it. It's a truly unique medium that allows you to jump in and enjoy it backwards and forwards.
Having started reading comics in the 70's all we wanted was to see our beloved characters brought to life on screen, but seeing how they butchered a lot of what made them what we loved the phrase "careful what you wish for" comes to mind.
One of the reasons that I enjoy this channel is that you stick to just comics and not the adaptations. I read a few comics as a kid, but they were Transformers, Archie, and Richie Rich, not typical Marvel or DC superheroes. So, there is an entire history of stories that I know nothing about! I enjoy going on the journeys that you take us on to both the common highways and zanier corners of comics history (including current-ish events in comics).
I also appreciate your wigs! It’s always a question of what your hair will look like today. Your hair/wigs is practically a sidekick on this channel.
No, I think you bring up a great concern of whether comics are focusing to much on how their adaption is going to come out as rather than on the here and now, on writing a good comic first.
I think you have every right (of course) to feel like mama bear over this medium. That’s how I feel about books and 2D art in general Cape for it! It’s a medium that deserves protection! It’s a rare form of the beauty of both illustrated art and reading. And when it’s done well or even not well- it’s still really magical and inspiring. It creates unforgettable and defining moments in your life. At least for me.
People do try to say it’s a “dying art form” when it really isn’t. And sitting down with a comic or manga is indeed a world of its own and it’s a world I miss a lot which is what pulled me here. Especially how you discuss them. It’s in a way that feels cared for and nonjudgmental. Like you can enjoy whatever and it’s cool and I really like that atmosphere, because it helps encourage exploration - something I do think is lost in this hyper visual/manically aware world.
The anime/movie really is NOT better all the time - and so much can be lost or the entire tones and catalyst moments overlooked by not having read the world inside the comic/manga which really does do a disservice to the characters/stories if it becomes popular, in my opinion. And sometimes it’s flipped. I’ve been on both ends of this trail and neither side feels fun loll I end up feeling cheated or like “why couldn’t the (comic/movie) have been left alone?” Or “why couldn’t I have seen the (movie/comic) first”.
I feel like adaptations recently have become more..”dangerous”? In a way. I feel like in modern days people tend to actually want to know the living human that is and looks like this fictional character cause it makes it ‘real’ in a way I guess. - but what makes it dangerous is that they want them to be that person and that specific personality all. the. time. and not even see the character grow within their own selves or through other lenses.
Personally, I feel like too much is too much and right now..it’s too much. Original mediums need time to breathe and be itself and be enjoyed as is - and peoples’ decreased concept of time have companies putting things out with out any space in between-but that space is so crucial in creative spaces like these because it allows the growth a progression to flourish, while exploring the possibilities. Things need the time to be what they are and grow as they are.
Everything doesn’t need to be real, relatable or instant. And right now realism, relatability (to who I don’t really know anymore), and instant gratification is plaguing the artistic world in a way that it feels like there’s no room for wonder or thought out what if’s, making adaptations tropy or one-dimensional - and ‘preferably’ as real as possible aka as a film with real people in it.
Also, I think that people sometimes make adaptations to be like- “fixed it” - kind of mentality. It’s a bit concerning. I feel a lot like adaptations are people’s ways of garnering attention for themselves or what they want to do/would rather do as a fan of this thing (or not).
For example, an ongoing popular adaptation trope is Greek Mythology - even when it gets mixed up with Roman Mythology. People have been adapting that for eons it seems loll and it’s endless.
It so old now though that people give too much liberty from the original sources and sometimes people don’t even bother to read the original sources (or at least as original as it can get). -sometimes I think people play that kind of waiting game. Cause people are possessive over popular characters that they connect to or feel like they have strong development opinions on- but if THEIR version is received “better” or more, then they can be known for it just as much as the creators -or more. And that’s where I find a fine line of a problem with all of it.
It’s like that thin fence of when people sell fan art at the same cost as their own original works and make a profit from it- I don’t think that’s really ethical because the material isn’t originally that artist’s, it belongs to another artist. And the details of something being so widespread with fan art and adaptations being encouraged can make things complex as to when to profit off their version or the original, which in essence is still profiting off the original because the base ideas weren’t theirs. People take advantage of when something becomes wide reaching. -that’s kind of how I feel about adaptations and the like, recently. It’s become more of people taking advantage of something widespread rather than the what if exploration of the worlds that it used to be.
How far are people going to go just to be part of something? How much will they remove the backstories and charms and details that made the characters they love so robust, just to steak their flag in the ground, y’know?
I can understand you protecting the fort loll and as you can see you have a community of people that feel the same in their own ways. Comics can and should stand in their own. They’re a medium that can weather time and flex the possibilities and engage imagination. It’s cool to see the likes of Superman and Batman look different but identifiably the same throughout the years and I think that’s uniquely possible because of the kind of medium comics are. It would be sad if that got overlooked by cartoon or film adaptations.
Sorry this was long.
Thank you for all that you do and creating this space!
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I really feel you about this. I agree with you on all of this. I don’t want storylines to made just so they can be adapted and characterization to change to match a different version of them, but I still do enjoy the adaptations. I’m tired of seeing unnecessarily influence the comics in a big way because of adaptation. I mostly read DC who isn’t as bad with it but still do it every now and then, but on the occasions I do read Marvel I really see that they are going head first into this adaptation stuff.
You know what Sasha... You are goddamm right! I just understood why I like your channel, you really are a very nuance type of voice in a sea of people that keep saying the same thing...
In my case, I am just done with anything regarding the MCU... I am just tired, and seen this adaptations galore (not just MARVEL, but STAR WARS as well) made me recognize I made the right decision in abandoning ship.
As for comics, its sad that I started collecting as much as I can just recently (like a couple of years) Its been a fine journe, since a lot of things I want are really easy to find, but others not so much.
As for adaptations and the consequences for comics... Yeah, you are absolutely right, but I think its worse than that... Most of the people working in comics right now seem to want the great "Netflix deal" to make a movie or a TV Show and just make a comic with that in mind (not just MARVEL but the industry in general) shame that only a few people have the strength to trust in the media to create something that is actually worthwhile in the pages, but at least its more rewarding finding them...
In that realm, have you seen something that has catched your atention? I have...
Talk about Kamen America! its just so good and cheesy, I love it!
I appreciate that you don't chase trends, like doing trailer reactions and the like, because, yeah, that is overly saturated and there's only so many ways you can present something like that. It's not as if you aren't covering new material within the comics but I have a lot more fun learning about how many different people Lois Lane has married than seeing the umpteenth take about who was cast as what in the new movie by x studio.
Also it is interesting that you brought up how the comics are starting to reflect the movie universes in terms of personalities and likenesses (in some cases, I'm sure) when that started in the comics in the 00s with stuff like Agent Fury going from being a white guy in the 616 universe to being straight up Samuel L. Jackson in the Ultimates and then it came full circle with him being cast in the MCU. I'm sure this wasn't the only time this happened as I recall that in The Boys "wee" Hughie looked very much like Simon Pegg, so much so that Pegg commented at the time the series was ongoing that he wouldn't mind playing the part in an adaptation.
I dunno, I'm of two minds when it comes to synergy stuff, growing up in the 90s and really getting into comics in the mid 00s I remember that most of the new properties from the DCAU had their own comics that kind of worked and kind of didn't. Yes Teen Titans had been a thing forever but the show was a whole different thing and so it had it's own comic to explore those characters, Batman Beyond had its own comic to explore the world that the show created. I like when that stuff happens because it gives you more time with those characters and those personalities, I'm not overly fond of that type of integration for the main continuities because now you're chasing trends that won't last forever. Batman and Superman have been around for approaching 100 years and there have been a fair number of tv and film adaptations for both characters, changing things because the movies are popular, at the time, leads to it just being a footnote in history, something the next generation Sasha will be covering and talking about "hey, remember when Iron Man became Robert Downey Jr. and still nobody bought comics? that was a thing, let's talk about it".
Maybe I'm just bitter because I find the MCU kind of boring and don't want that blandness to bleed into other aspects of Marvel
Do not change. I watch your channel because you talk about the comics. I have learned so much about comics and the story behind the story because of your receipts. Thank you.
Best to address it at a case to case basis. Some characters will benefit from their film counterparts, some will lose their history. I personally would like Miles Morales to adopt his film's characterisation to make him more unique. But I don't wish any of the MCU Scarlet Witch to simplify the comic version's personification of a powder keg hot mess
Thank you for loving and talking about comics. I like the MCU, but I grew up reading comics and love all their craziness.
I'm with 100%. I didn't have access to comic books as a child, so I'm really happy that I can listen to you telling different stories. I get the idea of changing the characters in the comics a little bit, it suits the era we live in, and still I would like them to keep both media not to close.
I agree, I don't want to see the source material diluted, because I love comics. I learned to read from "Spidey Super Stories" in the 70s, and comics have almost always been a part of my life. By the same token, it is a byproduct of the fact that so many of the recent adaptations are *so* good, that they have the potential to transcend their source material. As someone who remembers the "dark times" before the 1989 Batman movie (think straight-to-video Dolph Lundgren Punisher and not-even-to-video Cap movie with rubber ears), I also recognize that there are worse problems to have. If even 1% of movie viewers decide to pick up a comic and get hooked, I see this as an absolute win. I just want to have my cake and eat it too. In any case, thanks for another excellent video and your willingness to start the conversation!
I feel like superhero comics are constantly evolving and iterative, your channel is a perfect documented of that phenomenon. In some cases I’ve liked the changes wrought by MCU adaptations (Tony Stark) and is some cases not (Quicksilver). But in general I see these changes as something that has always been organic to the genre, in print or other media. My apprehension, however, is that the MCU would enforce a permanent uniformity on these characters, which I think would be detrimental long term. Part of the reason the MCU works so well is that it has 60 + years of lore and character iteration to draw from, simultaneously pulling ideas from many different decades. The danger would be if they stifle that experimentation and over standardize. There is a possibility of that , but there is also the possibility that changing times and new generations of fans will require the MCU to change, just as comics changed over time.
Sasha!
I Don't want to be creepy but at first I thought how lovely you looked without lippy
but then you mentioned almond milk (I'm allergic) & all I could think about was brutal exploding headaches.
Meanwhile, I'm totally with you on the love & respect for the original print forms as a Worthy Artform in themselves.
Also, as a person who dug some of these comics from issue ONE I love that they finally got the movies right.
CGI is an amazing thing, bringing to life a lot of what I saw in my mind's eye as a kid.
Your random chit chat is extremely articulate & entertaining!
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Steve Holliday
I completely agree with you, Sasha, adaptations have lots to contribute to the characters and stories from the comics the originate from, but at the same time could FOR SURE dilute the characters or influence the characterisation of these characters. It’s sad but I think Disney and marvel will probably change the characterisation of the comic book characters to fit the movie characters more, so that they can introduce more people whose only introduction to this deep rabbit hole of comics is the movies. While this may not be a bad thing because this means more business for the dying comic book industry...ultimately I think it doesn’t do the decades of characterisation of some of these characters justice sometimes.
Who cares about the lipstick when youve got that amazing hair!
Even though your channel isn't focused on movies and tv adaptations I would love to hear your opinions on them maybe as a collab with another channel or a one off video now and then.
Movies have always affected the comics they are adapted from. Look how the fortress of Solitude in the Christopher Reeves Superman movie took over as the definitive design. I miss the giant key.
Also, wig is definitely on point.
I absolutely cracked up at the break to put on lipstick. I've been having the opposite problem where I put on lipstick on instinct and then remember that I have to put a mask on.
Adaptations that change the in canonical comic character to match its live action depiction can improve a mediocre character from the comics , as first the 90’s Spider-Man animated series, then the Wesley Snipes film trilogy ( I know the 3rd one sucked) did for Blade, or can take a Favorite Legendary Character and make it a poor parody of what it was intended to be, as the Batman 60’s TV series did until Frank Miller ( Thank God) brought back the Dark Knight. But Sasha just remember one of your favorite sayings “At the Time of this Recording” because no matter what direction they take a character, some future writer will take it in a different direction, & the Characterization you enjoyed is always still there for your enjoyment
Looool I was watching this video hey Sasha is going bare lips we super casual, then she noticed and threw it on. The hair colour scheme is pretty amazing btw
I am a big fan of adaptations that respect the array of history that came before it rather than trying to be some kind of definitive version. Even when an adaptation takes a hard turn in a different direction, whether widely successful or not, it's nice to see the depths they can pull from the material that came before it.
For example, I do not particularly like Teen Titans Go, but I would totally use Lady Legasus if I were to make some kind of Teen Titans adaptation because the basic idea has a lot to explore whether you continue down the more comedic line or something more serious. There's an opportunity to connect with different kinds of fans in a way that makes both feel seen.
I absolutely resonate with the homogenizing problem you're kind of speaking to. I like for people to like the stuff that I do and to be interested in engaging with it, especially from a contrasting point of view, and you get more of that when they're allowed to be for someone else.
That extends to this tendency to treat gritty and dark as inherently mature and light-hearted and silly as inherently immature and then pushing mediums to be more exclusively one rather than a constellation of all of them.
And I'm someone who leans towards liking dramatic over comedic.
Your feelings on the subject are definitely shared. It’s easy to see influences back-flowing from movies to the comics just to make film fans feel welcome. I have to admit that while there are many comics that I love that would not exist without independent creators and have no hope for horizontal media marketing to transform them to other mediums, I yearn to see some of them get that boost.
Of course, would a boost up to a more visible pop culture spotlight then ruin the very things I love about them? Give me a moment while I check on the box where I keep the cat the belongs to my friend, Schrödinger.
If we’re talking about how adaption shape the source material, then we gotta go back to the first time that happened: Alfred Pennyworth.
That’s right, in his original appearance in the comics Alfred was not Bruce’s butler but instead more of a bumbling detective character I believe, it was actually Batman film serials that Alfred was made into the faithful butler, which in turn bleed back into the comics, turning him into the Alfred we all know and live today.
That’s always an interesting thing, to me, to think about, when thinking about how adaptations influence source.
Is that the same serial that invented the Batcave ?
Yup that’s the one, specifically it was called The Bat’s Cave:
Honestly though, the only Batman serial I’ve watched is the titled Batman and Robin, and that was Rifftrax version.
And oh boy, was that a ride.
But anyway, I just find it interesting that Alfred can be considered the first character to be influenced by an adaptation.
I definitely feel this. I don’t get this so much from the new slate of shows (wandavision, Loki and falcon &ws) but I get this feeling a lot with the next slate (ms marvel, ironheart etc). Those characters are so new to the comics. The turnaround speed is breakneck.
i couldn't agree with you more!! one of the things that got me into reading comics were the onscreen adaptations, but mainly dc's back in the late 2000s/early 2010s because even though they were varied from the characters i saw onscreen, a lot of the people adapting these comics got what the characters were like at their cores. so, despite bruce being nearly 40 or in his early 40s in the comics, he was still the same character i saw in the young justice cartoon and the same batman i loved in b:tas and the time burton movies. finding the differences and similarities was so much fun, and finding out more of the batfamily's other members was even better. i fell in love with the comics and the characters in them so much, especially the younger characters (probably because i was in my teens and i could relate more to them than bruce, lol).
unfortunately, i didn't have the same luck with marvel. i tried reading through a lot of characters but the differences i found were more jarring. the one who picked up my eye the most was black widow. but the more i read of her comics and the clearer her character became to me, the less interested i became in the movie version. natasha in the comics has such a rich and long history which was crammed into a few mentions in a few movies rather than being explored onscreen. she doesn't often play main hero in teams-ups in neither version, so she's often relegated to being an afterthought for the men fighting onscreen. it was...very disappointing. i even started referring to her as two different characters in my head: natalia is the comic version that is near and dear to my heart, natasha is the movie version that i enjoy less. i had to stop catching up with the mcu and marvel as a whole because her movie interpretation started becoming one with comics (to the point where artists just drew scarlett johansson instead) and considering i didn't like that version very much, it was too heartbreaking for me to bear. name of the rose remains one of my favorite, top tier comicbooks stories, and her romance with bucky is one of my otps in comics. almost batcat level.
sadly, i also noticed that this has been happening with dc comics for the last couple of years too. at first it was characters changing looks to suit their movie counterparts, which was fine. i enjoy dying my hair different colors every few months too. then it was the way they're written both as characters and how their relationships work. i had to jump ship there because watching bruce ignore his children and harley make a fool of herself in new, low ways every two weeks was too much for my faint heart. it's been almost two years since i sat down and read a superhero comic truly enjoyed or immediately left feeling "ah, yes, i can almost see how they're going to put this on my laptop screen."
fortunately, i found your channel this past month and now I'm learning about all the things I've missed that are tickling my curiosity and making me want to go back. the harley quinn black + white + red series sounds promising, as well as the new addition of punchline into batman mythos, and your excitement for them has me excited for them too, so i have i feeling i might check those out soon enough.
The quality of the humor, subject matter expertise and sheer fun of this channel is unmatched. Thank you for the awesome content Sasha! I think this is the best wig of a host of awesome wigs.
This is probable the most personal video and topic I see you discuss. The fact comic book characters are more popular now thanks to the movie, television series/web streaming series,and even video games but the medium that started them the page comic is dying is the ultimate irony. It is difficult to introduce people to the comics when they are more used to the adaptation versions. I hope they can bridge the gap when I was young what introduce me to Spider-Man was the 1960s cartoon. Later I did read the comics noticed some differences but I got to understand and bridge the difference it is a shame newer generations cant bridge the differences.
I think some people imagine adaptations to be made for existing fans of certain characters or teams like “here’s someone you’ve always wanted to see on the screens” and some people imagine adaptations to be “how can we make this character as marketable and wide-reaching to potential new fans” but they don’t really do either. Adaptations more often than not come across more as Alternate Universes (AUs) or Elseworlds and they’d be more interesting if they just embraced that from the get-go. Less chance of characterizations being changed in the source material.
Also I love the wig, beautiful colors!
Once again, this is the best comic book channel!
I feel similar to you about adaptations. I love them when they stay true to the source material, but it can become a bit confusing and hard to digest, for me, when Hollywood and mainstream media start creating their own source materials. I do feel it can ruin the fandom a bit. Like with the Star Wars franchise. Many of the OG fans were outraged with how they handled the newer ones. Then it becomes confusing when trying to follow what is now considered cannon vs legend. Also, your wig game is on point!
Please keep doing what you're doing with these. I'm tired of reaction videos and "comics are dying" videos. I come here to enjoy my love of comics and the form (including all my old silver age and bronze age comics with their silly stories) and am glad you're making content that celebrates the silly and the fun side of comics as well as the history.
This has been one of your best videos. I agree wholeheartedly, comics and the mess they make of continuity have an appeal other media lack. There is a move towards immediate gratification and we are losing a lot in the process.
This video perfectly encapsulates why I have the biggest intellectual(& physical tbh❤️) crush on you Madam(?)! Your devotion to the medium and endless natural charm is awesome to behold! You are hitting on a subject that in recent years is a bizarre double edged sword. The comics to film/tv back to comics ouroboros isn’t a new phenomenon but it is certainly becoming more frequent as of late. Its especially worrisome as companies like Warner Bros seem to now only view DC as an IP incubator, which is a shame. As Ive stated before just the fact that you are discussing this topic elates me! Plus that whole lipstick moment is the icing on the cake! Lol Cheers! ❤️😜
I can appreciate the focus on comics. My personal history with most of these IPs is through cartoon series' but having a cool, chill, charismatic cutie explain to me the history of these characters and various stories in their original form in a fun format is has made me appreciate comics as someone who for most of my life up to now, didn't care much. Everyone and their goat does movie reactions and reviews as you said, and many other comic talks I've seen focus on the state of the industry itself and not really the stories. So I thank you Sasha, a whole bunch.
I feel you, Sasha. The FIRST comic Book I remember that had any real tie in to a TV series was the original run of the Super Friends that tied in with the animated Series that began back in 72. The comic was done in a very similar style to the TV series (the first issues even had artwork that resembled the animation style) and even included Wendy, Marvin, and Wonder Dog. I know that when they did the Batman TV series the altered the Comics to make them more campy, in line with the series, but that was a few years before my time as I was a baby during the original run of the show. Later shows and movies were less tied to the comics, like the Dr. Strange Movie from the 70's, or the two Captain America Movies from the 70's or even the Hulk and Spiderman Live Action TV shows from that same time period (although other than the absence of any real super villains the Spider Man series was closer to the source material than any of the others, with the exception of Wonder Woman which was also extremely source accurate. My hope had always been that someone would not only bring more comic book characters to either the big screen, or the small screen, but that they would do them accurately, and by accurately I mean word for word, panel for panel, and page for page just the way I had read them. That, of course hasn't happened, although I will admit that some of the animated DC movie based on the Justice League have been considerably closer to the source material than other things. I do like seeing the characters on screen, although I wish they would do more comic accurate costumes for both DC AND Marvel shows and movies ( I was REALLY disappointed that they didn't five Hawkeye his purple outfit, and apparently so was Jeremy Renner the actor that portrayed him as he came to really like the look during his research for the character. Overall I like a LOT of what has been done, not all of it (am NOT a fan of Gotham by Gaslight) but I do wish more of what they did was in line with the undiluted comic portrayals, or that they are going to have the movies diverge so much then let them diverge and we can think of them as just another reality.
I think I feel mixed too? Like I have absolutely loved a lot of the adaptations that have come out! And I am really excited to see the new MCU shows, like I want to know what another creative teams take on a character or event is, even if I end up not liking it. But yeah it's super disappointing going to a store and seeing comics that seem more like advertisements for the movies than its own story. I LOVE that wig btw! It look so good!
Thank you for not being a channel of reaction videos and topical media news. I really appreciate that your videos are always something I wouldn't expect and didn't even know I wanted. The only thing that seems to dictate your video topics is your personal interest and I really respect that.
for me what i look for in adaptations is like the pure distilled feeling of the comic they are based on, something i can show someone whos never read a comic so they can get interested in comics. Much like how early anime (and still some current anime) is used to market their source material be it manga, light novels or games.
Thank you for bringing up this topic. It has a lot of meat to it, and touches on one of my favorite aspects that make comic books such a unique media. The characters are changing and malleable.
There is a lot variability on what a writer can do with a character they don't own, and will not have exclusive control over. Over the decades a character will often times evolve and fill out. What makes long running characters interesting is often times a hundreds different interpretation of a character ingested by the public and responded to by the next generation of writers. The elements that are more compelling, about a character, will often times stick, and moving forward become a pillar of the character. I see the MCU of a strong adaptation of the comics, that takes the best traits of the last 50 years of these comic characters, and condense them down to what we think of them today. These characters will not always be what they are today, but that is not a bad thing. Some of the most celebrated characters mean different thing to different people at different time periods.
The writers will inevitably have to respond to those versions of the characters in the MCU while looking back at the trades. Some of it good and interesting and some of it predictable and forgettable. Usually the good stuff sticks, though sometimes you have to wait a couple of years and wade though a bunch mediocrity to get to the good stuff.
After talking about adaptations so much, that just makes me want to hear you talk about Judge Dredd. The adaptations started terrible, then you had a good movie that was still a big departure from the source material. I feel like more people need to read that comic.
The television and movies was my gateway to comics. As I get so deep into a show or movie that I like, I discover there's more to them underneath, from the comics that they were adapted from. So, I really love them both. The way I treat the main comic continuity and the cinematic and TV continuities is that they're separate worlds in the multiverse, capable of standing on their own, existing in their own space. That way, when they did something I didn't like on the screen or the screen did something better than the comics, I would not be disappointed by either of these mediums that I love. If that makes sense.
I kinda agree with comics seem to not be given time to shine and mass rush for big and small screen adaptations and there's nothing wrong with that but I do enjoy the original source material of the comics themselves personally I'm glad that your channel just focuses on the comics and not doing trailers and stuff cuz as you said there are plenty of those out there the way you format your videos and focus just on the comics is plus in my book. I would like to see more chit chat videos also.
First of all, keep doing you. I love the content you bring to your channel. I can do my bitching and moaning about how things used to be and why everything sucks (damn I'm old) on other channels where it's not appreciated. Here we get the quick reviews, the awesome voice overs (really...is that how superman sounds), the reminders that all of this was done before and the receipts to prove it, and a renewed love for all things comics. Also, feel free to go all na-tru-all lips anytime.
I don't mind adaptations as long as the main theme and scope of the original source work is maintained. Of course this is also why I hate going to see the movie adaptation of a book, after I have read the book. The movie is usually good in it's own right, but the details that I might gravitate to in the book, usually don't make the final cut or is given too insignificant a reference in the movie for my taste. But I also agree with you about not supplanting the source with the adaptation. Perhaps if more movie and television production studios looked at comic books and other inspirational mediums as independent partners rather than competition for eyeballs, there might be a growth of original ideas on all sides.
I do like your wig. I just took a class on Optics and one of the topics was holograms and how they are made (the holograms we have in stickers and credit cards and pokemon cards, not sci-fi). I'd be willing to bet someone could imprint a holographic image on a wig relatively easily....
I totally understand where you're coming from. I'm also very protective of the comic book properties that I love, particularly the X-Men. No matter how much superhero media comes out, I will always come back to comics and continue to read them.
I love that your chanel covers what ever comic interests you, and not what is hot gossip in the comic world. Keep it up!
Also the wig is amazing.
Your focus on the comics is why I love your channel. Please keep doing what you do.
I wrote that last comment halfway through the video, and now you're moving your hands around so much, that I thought I should come back and correct myself? I love your show.
I actually DO want to talk about your new wig! It’s coloring is so unique and pretty it works so well! I love it
Like it looks like actual shine of the hair is different colors and I’m stunned
I don't have much to say other than I couldn't agree with you more on all points. I never thought I'd see the day where I'm wary of adaptations affecting the source material as opposed to the inverse.
Also, gurl, dat hair be fiyah 🔥
I agree with you about the comics can just... be. And by extension, so can your channel. I enjoy your channel so much because you do all the legwork I can’t do and present it in a most entertaining way. I already follow MCU breakdown people. I come to you for comics, and you deliver. I understand changing with times and evolution, but you are the historian that helps keep perspective and respect for the old ways haha
As I read Doomsday Clock I got that feeling you talked about that it was tailor made for the screen
I read comics as a kid because they were a far more adventurous and deep form of storytelling. Stories like the Phoenix standing trial for genocide were far more challenging than anything on Knight Rider or The A-Team. Comics also had a limitless budget for the stories to go anywhere in space and time, but still had realistic characters like Guy Gardener or The Thing who were broken, imperfect heroes.
Television is now not just 26 episode ‘villain of the week’ shows any more, as it tries to ape the detailed but serialised storytelling from comics, but with the budget and cinematography from the big screen (which is also losing big IP like Star Wars and the Lord Of The Rings to TV). I appreciate all of my dreams becoming reality of seeing She-Hulk of Sandman on a screen, and it’s definitely improved our standard of 45 minute viewing from 30 years ago. The fact the entire world now knows who Thanos would have blown my mind at 10 years old... even though they ignored his romance with the anthropomorphic entity of Death which makes more sense than him being evil intergalactic Greenpeace.
I agree that if kids can get Super-Man and Spider-Man on screens (as well as Doom Patrol and Ms Marvel), then they don’t need to pick up comics, and there is a fear that they won’t use their imagination to fill in the blanks, and become storytellers themselves. And even worse the idea of print comics will be gone (over here in the UK we’ve lost The Beano and Dandy as actual paper comics). Comics are the punk rock of literature and storytelling, and without the medium, it makes a barrier for young artists and writers to create weird and wonderful tales where budgets and the values, standards and practises of multimedia empires aren’t stopping them from creating.
I agree with you totally, I just wonder how many new people getting into the comics industry met "movie" (insert character) first. And are now making movie version the jumping off point. The good and bad about something as massive as the MCU is it's success not as one shot movies, but as one of the most successful large interconnected multimedia projects EVER means a lot of kids and young adults will casually have the films define a definitive version of these characters for them.
The one good thing about DC kinda being all over the place with their film universe is for the most part, there aren't real life actors who heavily have taken on a firm hold in pop culture. There's been some movie bleed backwards, but not as much as Marvel I don't think.
"Blasphemy of fandom! You must like it all or none of it! There is no middle ground!" Lol. Jk.
😂😂😂 The line must be drawn here! This far, no further! Now repent Sasha 😂😂😂
I say: I like your channel.
You go through comic both old and new and you do a fantastic review of those comics. You really promote reading and learning orginal comics and storylines.
Keep it up!🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗👍
A. I love the new wig, it might be my favorite one.
2. I'm with you on the adaptation front, it has the potential to be so much more but I hate when it veers too far off the source material, or feels like it misses the point to me.
The most concerning adaptation I currently have is Grand Admiral Thrawn in Star Wars, the original Thrawn Trilogy made me fall in love with reading, he is such an interesting character and we never got enough of him, so far in the cartoons they have adapted him perfectly, but I am still concerned for the live action adaptation, and what they do with him for post ROTJ, feasibly they could still use his same or similar storyline just with different heroes then the OT heroes, but I feel it won't hit the same. I still feel like we were robbed not getting that series as the sequel trilogy.
Personally comics adapted into cartoons has always felt like the most fluid and best use of adaptation. I think cartoons are the best medium for comics storytelling as you don't get the gaps one would get in the comics, and you can consume the whole story yet generally the adaptations don't change much. Except when it's bad... looking at you Killing Joke.
So yes much like you I am conflicted, I love seeing comics brought to life, and when an adaptation is done well I think it deserves its praise, but it feels like that is often a 60% meh 30% suck 10% hit
I’ll admit as much as I love the MCU I do not like all their adaptations like what they did with Scarlet Witch and Spider-Man. And half the time they don’t get the story correct
Personally I like dc more yes there movies are not always the best to put it nicely but they always try something different just look at they upcoming dc movies and the upcoming marvel movies
I also think they are more close to the material .
They are less predictive if you put on a marvel movie with in 20 minutes I would be able to tell you all the main story lines
They turned Spider-Man into a Tony Stark/Iron Man fanboy who idolizes and worships the ground Stark walks on.
I view the MCU as an alternate universe. This has allowed me to enjoy it.
@@miltonfarmer1139 That because the MCU is really an alternative universe.
@Alain Smith Thor was always at least partly comedic. Walt Simonson, arguably the most legendary Thor author/artist, turned him into a frog for more than a year. An argument can be made that MCU Thor is very NOT comedic in that he displays all of the signs of a man going through a grief spiral and PTSD. Go ahead and laugh at his "dad-bod" but don't forget that by the end of Endgame, he's lost (in about ten years) both his parents, his brother, and two of his closest friends.
Girl, love the hair today. It's amazing! And, the retro sweater is fab.
On more important things, I'm glad you discuss comics for comics' sake. Not every video is a winner, but for the most part your videos are captivating and entertaining. You pose interesting questions. Keep up the good work! Hugs❣
i dig the synergy between comics and the film adaptations. Like when Supergirl had a headband in the comics in the 80s. The artists were made to add that headband because the actress in the movie was going to have a sweatband. Then she didn't. People complain about movies changing things, but some of that shit from the comics doesn't work for a movie adaptation, like the giant squid in the Watchmen comic.
Casually Editorializing is alright with me. I'm hear for it.
To borrow from the Anime world as an example, having distinctly divergent interpretations of a work can be rewarding.
Once I watched The Grudge and Ju-On alternating back and forth scene for scene just to compare the two. It was the first and only time I viewed either film.