he actually looked better with the bitless than with the bit . he went more forward into your hand and pushed more with the hind legs. it looked really good!
I was thinking the exact same thing. The horse whole body language changed, when the bitless got on. I ride with both bit and bitless, my hose gose very well on both and I think it's importen to change what you are riding with from time to time. And I agree with what Jesse said about riding with or without a bit, ride in what works for you and your horse.
I definitely agree with bitless and my old horse went really well and bitless but my new horse is just too strong to go bitless so I have him on a magic bit to try and stop pressure on his mouth and eventually I do hope go bitless. I'm currently selling my old horse and videos will be going up soon
So beautiful... When the horse isn’t concentrating on the pain of a bit, he can concentrate on what you’re asking him 😍 I hope more people can appreciate this and start a bitless revolution ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@@terryhey6730 it doesn’t matter how educated the rider is, many of them use it as a form of punishment and control. If that weren’t the case, you wouldn’t have a lot of riders disqualified for blood in the horses mouth during competition.
I love that you recognise that different horses do better with different methods of bitted riding or bitless riding, a lot of people struggle to understand that haha. He looked great bitless, good job! :)
So true! My horse is a haflinger and was always ridden with a bit and his owner competed with him for years. When I bought him I firstly also competed but it was such a disaster.. we were just always racing trough the ring and he just simply didn't have a break. Then I tried bitless and since then ( almost 2,5 years ago ) we gained SO much trust in eachother and now we gallop on the beach of Hargen with only a neckrope. For us it really did wonders 😊👌
@@my_bay_jed5509 thank you! When I was in Pony Club one of our senior members tried a bitless on her OTTB. If she used a hackamore that primarily put pressure on his nose (she had 3 trainers so that shit was properly fitted) he would throw his head up and began to threaten to rear, which he had never done before. Then when they switched to more poll pressure he would run right through her aids. He was a strong horse, but with a snaffle she'd never lost control before. He was an angel on the ground. Well we did a cross country clinic and he bolted, and no amount of seat and pulling was going to stop a 17 hand thoroughbred on the run. He threw her and she cracked 3 ribs. Now this was before the big bitless movement, so I don't know why she even tried it, but she totally lost her confidence and quit for a year. When she came back he was in a d-ring I think and she took her B test on him and passed. She was only in for a year after that before she aged out, but she never had another incident with him. You can say he wasn't used to not feeling pain, but in the end no matter what they tried he never transitioned to getting "used to" the new pressure. And its naive to think my story is a unique one. Some horses can transition beautifully, and some will never be comfortable with added pressure on their nose and poll. TL;DR: Work with a trainer, vet, and your horse to find what works best for all of you and your discipline and go with that. Period.
Emma Episode my horse hates pressure on her nose and face and rides much better in a bit and she loves putting on her bridle and opens up right away for her bit, you can’t tell me my horse doesn’t like a bit 🙄
Your horse is gorgeous and clearly looks happier bitless good job! You boys seem to have a decent understanding and knowledge of horses and horsemanship as well as truly care for your horses and their well-being which is very nice to see!
The horse looked more relaxed and happier bitless!! Almost all horses are more comfortable without a hard metal thing in their mouths! So I think it’s great you tried to ride without it! You’re horse seemed to really like it and seemed more comfortable.
Katelin is here if only you knew diva. she’s an OTTB that hasn’t had any formal training and is still rlllly green. she trusts me so i have to do with she’s comfortable with and what’s right for her.
Wow he looks so much better with the bitless. He is starting to carry himself properly and also he looks like he’s enjoying it a lot more. And I‘m a person that usually rides with a bit ;)
Peekay looked stunned when you first got on without the bit. He certainly was confused starting out but he looked like the longer you went the nicer he started looking. I recently moved my 12 yro gelding to bitless and noticed a huge difference after a week of getting used to the hack. He used throw his head with the slightest pressure and whenever he panicked he'd only get worse with the slightest of pressure with the bit. Now he stops and turns with the slightest pressure on the hack and whenever he spooks he responds a lot nicer when I give him direction on the hack. Most horses will do absolutely fabulous with a bitless bridle if given some time to adjust. Of course riding without a bit means your horse needs to have a lot of trust and respect for you. My mum's horse was trained bitless and due to her doing very little ground work he almost completely ignores her with a hack. Hopefully Peekay will stay bitless as he seems to do quite fine with it and he certainly trusts and respects you.
I used to ride my pony bareback and with nothing but a halter. we would run a full course of jumps like that. I figure.. the horse is a million times stronger than us. if they are listening at all its willingly, so they would probably do it anyway withotu needing harsh aids
I did occasionally use draw reins on her when she wasnt understanding what i wanted her to do but once she understood i gtook them off and never had togo back them
All the horses I have met until now liked bitless better, and I think Pekay does, too! I'm actually riding my drafthorse (who likes to ignore me when I tell him in which direction he should go) bitless and it surprisingly works sooo much better!!!!
I find some sensitive horses actually have more trouble bitless. Four of my seven go bitless, but the other three haven't liked any of the bitless options I've tried. I would like to try this bridle as it seems very good for sensitive horses since there is leverage, but not too much. My strongest all go bitless except my little mare who loves to have support and to hang on the bit, but doesn't like the support provided by bitless bridles. The other two that don't go bitless are just too sensitive in bitless bridles. I think it also depends on the rider's hands. My hands certainly aren't very harsh, but I wouldn't describe them as soft.
@@lianellablackwood-darlingt2326 I've recently tried my horse with the animo bitmore bridle I think he prefers bitless but doesn't like the bridle, I'm hoping to get the one Jesse has been using
I prefer bitless but I don't hate on people who use bits. I think of bits, spurs and whips as training tools that get used wrong. I trained my Qu pony bitless and the only reason I switched he to a bit was because I started have problems. She went threw a rebellious faze and I switched to get her to listen with less pressure. I then switched her back bitless when she was 6ish.
Yes,bits spurs and whips are only "abusive" as some may say if used wrong I prefer to use bits (mainly plastic ones I don't now how to describe them but they have plastic-y feel) Because I've tried with all of my horses to train them to go bitless (only one can be ridden bitless and he's my 26 year old) for years but they never catch on and always seem more stressed without one Wich is wierd But I love how you respect us bit users Wishing you the best of future with your horse
Ok so you might be able to answer a question. Can you get an accurate idea of how your horse will do bitless by using a halter? I'm very interested in trying bitless on my mare but I don't want to invest the money just to experiment if I don't need to.
It's great that you're trying bitless! I love these videos. Edit: what a rider Jesse is! Blimey! wow. I love that he doesn't have extremely short reins. Oh, and there you have it. He changed the rein so his horse doesn't get stiff on one leg. You don't know how many people don't bother to change the rein, and then get angry when their horse is stiff. I applaud you, sir. No whip, no spurs...wow...👍👍👍
I like watching your videos! i enjoy watching you try different things and not always sticking to the "norm" I think too many horse people get too attached to one particular way of doing things - why not try new things that both you and your horse can learn and grow from!
I’ve never ridden bitless, but I thought the horse’s posture was much better without the bit. With the bit he spent most of the time behind the vertical, which really isn’t ideal for his breathing. The so-called “modern dressage” may teach that this is correct but to me this is based on rollkur (cruelty) and has no value. I am a “classical dressage” rider all the way!
I'm a classical dressage rider as well. The horse probably associated the bit with draw reins/side reins/heavy hands. When it was taken away, he instantly became softer(shows how poorly he was trained rather than all the miracles bitless bridles apparently do). Sad to see where dressage is going these days.
i agree..im old and french.. that was how we learned in ancient time,with a bended horse neck..thats just cruel for the horse...just try running with a potatoe bag on the back and looking at your shoes,lol
sorry for my bad english, I'm french ^^ I am so proud to see horses that know how to work without having to be supervised all the time. Even without bit your horse is relaxed, work with his back, has symmetrical gait, engages his weight and has his head to the vertical! It proves that training is an apprenticeship for the well-being of the horse and that they understand it!
I'm fine with bitless bridles but I'm not fine when people say they cause zero abuse. I'm sorry but they still do, if used wrongly. You're still hanging off their nose. If used wrongly you can still cause damage. Same with a saddle. Used wrongly can cause pain, same with bareback. As I say again I don't find them wrong but it's just the people who think they cause zero abuse
You have to be able to ride with your whole body not just force the horse between your hand and your leg. Many people make horses look good but they are hiding up a horse's training faults. This horse transitioned well as he already knows how to carry himself. I've ound it easier on a horse who has been bitted than a horse who never has had a bit. It just takes longer but the results are well worth it.
Lyn George every horse that has been trained on his earth will at least have 1 training fault. Usually more then that. Even the best horses have training faults with the best trainers.
I fully agree with you. Especially bitless bridles made with leverage. Cause leverage is pressure and too much pressure could cause pain. So when going bitless, I advise people to use a traditional hackemore or a bridle like shown in the video. However, bits were made to apply pressure to the horses mouth. And almost every horse has been in a situation where it has gotten his mouth yanked on. So in conclusion, bits can cause pain extremely easily where as bitless bridles (the non-leverage ones) can only cause pain If the rider has extremely hard hands.
Perfect example Jesse . You both did that very well. Smart choice Staying in the area for the first few times . When I was young I used A Hackamore bitless bridle which we used often for western riding In Canada. Works very well depending upon the horse and training Of the rider ! You have the expertise here . Shows in how you Communicate with your horses. Thank you for the video. Best Wishes. Keep up the great work !
a few days ago I also tried this with a mare that I'm taking care of and it went super well since she is super sensitive and preferred to obtar not put anything in his mouth and put bitless, I think it was a good option and she was very comfortable... I'm sorry if you do not understand, I do not speak much English, I try to explain myself the best I can. I love what you do, it shows that you do a very good job with the horses, so you have my full support!👏🏻🐴💕
Aitana Valle For not speaking much English I would say that you wrote that well! One day I need to be bold enough to learn a language other than my own.
The best thing about riding bitless is that is can help you diagnose problems with a horse that leans on the bit. I felt like when you first started riding his nose was too close to his front, meaning his head position was too inverted instead of being straight up and down. I hope I was able to be clear about that. I'm sure that with a younger horse, they are still trying to figure out what position you are asking for. He was so well behaved, you should be proud of Peekay today!! Very nice video!
The bit is so last century welldone for converting from the bit to bitless so more natural for the horse that are very much more soft and sensitive .you guys are awesome 💕
i have never ridden bitless, but this was amazing. his head was not over tucked and riding bitless shows the rider that it’s not all about the bit and the reins. it shows that you need to work your thighs, calves and shows 3 others of the 4 natural aids. well done jesse!
Nice video! The horse didnt dive behind the vertical so much with the bitless. Lovely to watch. In general the bit together with harsh/clumsy hands often cause pain and discomfort on the horses mouth, and then one loses relaxation and forwardness in the horse. You seem to have alot of empathy for your horse, something that is rare today among horse riders. Thanks for a lovely video and take care!
It is really awesome to find riders I enjoy watching and can learn from, then to see you guys promoting bitless! Which is something I deeply believe in and wish to learn as I progress as a rider. Round of applause is all I can say...well done boys 😀
Just a little piece of advice (coming from a bitless rider): give out on the reins a little more when bitless, because each tug leads to pressure on the nasal bone, so he might become less sensitive to soft signals (stopping, turning etc.) when he needs to get used to a constant pressure being normal. I feel like your horse gives into pressure from the reins (both with and without the bit) quite easily and thus might make it feel like he‘s not ‚on the reins‘ resulting in you taking the reins up more? Please correct me if I’m wrong.. IMO riding bitless can go hand in hand with riding more via seat and voice, leaving the signals with the reins soft as to not hurt or harm the horse‘s nasal bone.
Ive been riding bit less for only a few months as I got my first lease horse. I wanted to ride bit less and my lease horse loves it. He went from continently shaking his head around and pulling the reins out of my hands to keeping his head still. Although I don’t ride in a bridle, I ride in a halter with fluff under the nose and and behind the ears, and he loves it. And omg I thought training was going to be so easy watching youtubes ride their horses bit less, and well it is not easy at all. But of course training takes time, and I’ve become so much better of a rider relying on my body instead of the reins. I don’t even touch the reins now, as my lease horse hates pressure so I give him the space he needs. And may I add that my lease horse is pretty aggressive so he’s constantly trying to bite other horses and lunge at them, but he handles much better now. I definitely suggest trying bit less if any of you have a horse or lease, but of course it’s all about the horse. Just please don’t be one of those people that try their horses bit less, there horse loves it, but continue to ride in a bit so you can show. You’re horse is to work with you and try and make you happy, if you’re making them uncomfortable for your own pleasure to show, you’re not a true equestrian. I would love to show, but I’m not going to do it until I don’t have to rely on my hands at all. If you can ride without doing anything with your hands( turning, backing up, stopping, etc.) then I believe it’s okay to ride in a bit. You can train a horse to do anything without the help of tack extras like martingales and such. Also, if you say you’re horse doesn’t like pressure from a bitless bridle on it’s nose and such, there shouldn’t be pressure in the first place, and if you only tried your horse but less and say they looked better with a bit, you need to train your horse. It takes the same amount of time to train a horse in a bit than riding without. You need to train your horse cues bit less and it takes time just like when breaking a horse. I’m not saying you NEED to ride without a bit, but riding a few times without taking the time it takes to train a horse bit less, doesn’t mean you can automatically say you don’t ride it because your horse didn’t behave bit less. No hate ❤️ You two looked wonderful
The horse looks totally different without the bit. With the bit he was frothing at the mouth and tossing his head a little, as though he was trying to remove the pressure from his mouth. But the moment you switched to the bitless bridle I could see the transformation. The horse's ears were twitching back and forth, listening to his rider's instructions and just not once frothing or pulling at the reins. He looked so surprised with the bitless bridle and got used to it in a matter of minutes. That's amazing!
I love you guys! The horse is behind the bit with both bridles. At first. His face does become vertical which is very nice. He goes better without the bit. Much better. He looks like he has had kur training with the bit.
I guess my opinion is an unpopular one, but he looked much more through in the back and had more drive from the back legs with the bit. Bitless he had his nose on the vertical at times, but very often his back was hollow or flat and was less forward with his hind end. Am I saying bitless is bad? No. Am I saying it won't work for this horse? No, this was only his first time being ridden in new equipment. But I am not going to say he looked better bitless just because I want the OP to see it and keep using that bridle or because I want likes from animal activists. Whatever this equestrian chooses, he has nice soft hands and I saw no signs of discomfort or avoidance techniques from his mount in either bridle. Very well ridden :)
I think it's quite the opposite. Yes, there was a little bit more movement from the back legs with the bit, but the thrust got lost halfway through the horses body. The impulsion was better with the bitless bridle, the horse was able to relax more, so the movement went through the whole horse. There was more "spring" in the gaits. The elevated head and hollow back are usually not a problem caused by the bitless bridle, but by the horse not being able to or not wanting to hold itself in a proper carriage for an extended period of time. It's typical for younger horses. It shows up less with the bit, because you can force the horses head down a lot easier with the bit. The problem is, if you force the head down, the horse will get stiff and lose impulsion. That's something that needs to be fixed with good training, not with putting on a different bridle. I also kinda disagree on the nice soft hands. Sure, he doesn't yank on the reins and he also gives a quick release at times, but overall he's holding on to the reins quite tightly. The reason why the horses head went behind the vertical so much with the bit, is not because he's got something in his mouth, but because the rider is clinging onto the reins so tightly. Give the horse a little bit more rein, and the head will stay on the vertical. Also, getting onto a horse and gathering up the reins immediately to ask the horse for contact without letting it stretch on a long rein for the first few minutes is a no go for me (Relaxation comes before contact!). Jesse has a nice seat, but I don't quite agree with his rein situation. Sorry Mr.Drent!
I’m in the middle on this... drive can be related to the ride. The hind leg is stepping under and through similar with the bit and bit less but the big change is how open the horse gets up front through the neck and throat latch. Never want to see a horse btv. And bitless, for this horse, may be a great tool to unlock the front end and encourage poking his nose in front while stepping the hind leg well under his body.
Such a nice view of horse that can move properly and take 100% natural body posture while run! Bitless he seem actually enjoying movement while with the bit he's struggling and foaming.
@@ticiax3965 thank you for backing me up. I'm no stupid human I've been riding for 15 plus years I've helped train and break horses. So your telling me you'd get on a 4 yr old stallion with no bit? Props to you but I dont wana break my neck and possibly die. But yes you should always ride with caring hands and some horses need bits sorry lol oh and for the record I've ridden bitless on my mount for 5 years now :) but hes also 14 years old and fully trained :)
Chelsea d if you don’t feel safe getting on a 4 year old Stallion then you need to take some steps back and do basic training. Stallion or not, horses doesn’t need bits. Humans does. If you feel that he’s to Young or inexperienced then wait to ride him until you trust him. Start from the ground not from the top. (Also 15 years of experience doesn’t mean you’re an expert. It could mean you’ve gotten 1 or 2 years of experience 15 times. A person with only 1 or 2 years of good experience and lots of knowledge could be better than a person with 15 years of experience.) don’t take this as hate I’m only statist facts and theories.
Jesse is so kind and respectful of the horse.It's a joy to watch Jesse work with his horses. It's the same with dogs--treat them with respect and they will want to work with you. Cruelty never works. It would be great if going without a bit became the standard for horses.
I'm not trying to be mean or anything but certain people should ride bit less, but even tho he rides in a bit you can tell the horse isn't in pain or uncomfortable. I think he does a really nice job in a regular bridle or hackamoore
It must be a lovely feeling for the horse to be able to fully relax and open his mouth when he wants to without having a piece of metal moving around his mouth. Nice work.
3.19 I am screaming in my head, give out on the reins, GIVE OUT ON THE REINS... The horse is young and under education, it needs more space to move in, until it is stronger... That's why it becomes behind the bit, give out and it will fix itself with time..
Yes, yes, yes! I got all tense when I was watching and was saying the same, I wanted him to just try it for a few strides and see what wonders would happen. So glad you spoke up. This is a young man who does care about his horse--- bet he takes your suggestion--as fun as bitless!!!!
It looks like the horse is well trained, but he is just holding it in to much, it wants to do the right thing. I see this a lot, people don't do it to be cruel, but they can't see themselves. And it might feel right, he said it's a sensitive horse and a horse like that, might not be as heavy in your hands as other more sturdy horses, and therefore feel like you don't have connection and make you pull your reins back to get it. But he has a soft style, slow and steady movement with his hands, so he just needs to learn what this horse feels like. If you just focus on where the head is, instead of how the horse moves, how it uses its back and so on, you kinda end up with this. Also people tend to use the reins to control speed, instead of using the seat. I know the technical aspect of riding, but I ain't there were I can ride as I preach..
@@Galemor1 I helped the TD work as a bit checker at a dressage show once. I told her that I had seen a horse pretty far BTV (I also knew this horse from a past barn and how it was trained (ouch)). She looked at them riding and she said that it looks like the rider 'wasn't doing it intentionally' so she couldn't do anything about it. They do it but they don't see it really. Very sad
@@Crow-ig4py well i don't think you can ever ride a horse competition ready (for dressage) when riding bitless. Yes i agree this horse reacted AMAZING on it but i think a lot of people can agree with me that this horse was really long in his body with the bitless bridle and not collected or not as collected as he should be. if i do this with my 6 yo i will never ever get him collected and if he has a lot of energie he would just simply take control in these moments.
I think people should go for what ever works for there horse and which there more comfortable in I rode a horse who prefers a bit or bitless/hackamore .
Great job, I have been training my dressage horse bitless for a year now. She was very shy and would hide. Now she is so confident and better head carriage.
xXINeedALifeXx Communicating with the horse. With some horses it works better bitless but others prefer bits. Any piece of equipment can cause pain in the wrong hands, but bits, when used correctly are not painful to horses
Gratulation Jesse und Peekay !! Das haben Sie beide sehr gut gemacht 👍 mir gefällt die Art wie Sie mit Peekay umzugehen. Sehr freundlich und vertrauensvoll. Hier sieht man deutlich: wenn der Reiter dem Pferd Zeit in der Ausbildung gibt, ist es bereit alles möglich zu machen. Es braucht kein Gebiss "zur Kontrolle"! Mit Hilfen bekommt man das hin - es braucht Geduld. Wie leicht und schwungvoll er sich bewegt und mit maximaler Aufmerksamkeit bei der Sache! Wunderschön auch, dass Sie ihm die Möglichkeit geben sich vorwärts abwärts zu dehnen. Er schnaubt ab und kaut. Braucht es noch mehr positive Rückmeldung von Peekay ❤ weiter so, vielen Dank 👏
I love riding horses! I don’t do it often enough. The last time I road was in a small western town where horses are stabled and people also can bring in their horses to ride. A visiting tribe of Indians was relaxing, sitting, outside the bar. A horse was tethered. My sister-in-law doubted my riding abilities so I ended up going for a short ride on it. Texans are horse people! Much thanks to the gracious Indian chief!!!
Instills confidence in this young horse: horse has soft eyes, beautiful expression, super soft transitions, rider has soft hands that give to his mouth and pats on inside of neck and great rider equilibrium. I vote yes on the bitless, but will come into his own with a bit. He's a baby, so there's plenty of time :)
I'm not hating, just commenting on how I see things. Personally I hate it when people ride in rollkur (horse has its nose tucked in behind vertical line of its face) and also noticed he's giving conflicting messages. Pulls back both with bit and bitless, which horse thinks means stop, so constantly kicks horse to keep trotting. And is he using spurs? But I do like how he sits down softly without just plopping his weight down onto the horse's back and praises him.
He's 'half halting' where he presses the horse forward and blocks him with the bit. It presses their head into a frame and leaves the hind trailing. It's just a bunch of modern dressage crap. He is not using spurs, which I am a fan of though.
I just looked again and he is wearing spurs! They just blend in with his boots. What is the point of using spurs when your horse gets dull to them because you're poking them with it all the time?
dava davis rollkur is when the horses head is touching it almost touching their chest. What you’re talking about is a horse being behind the vertical (when the horses nose is behind the vertical line of its face)
Even though it's not a rollkur. Having the head behind the vertical isn't good either. The head should be at the vertical or even before it. I don't hate on Jesse since I like it that he is promoting the bitless. But in my opinion it's at its limit...
As Matt said, the left lead seemed easier for him because he definitely had more jump in the canter on the left lead. The bitless seems to ask for more self carriage, so for a 5 year old horse, he did quite well. I enjoyed the way the horse seems to have affection for Jesse too. And Jesse, you did a good job of keeping your seat and not allowing him to pull you forward in the contact.I enjoy these videos so much. Living in a rural area of Texas, I enjoy hearing someone speak my speak as far as horses.
I can see both... I've shown horses who require strong bits, and horses with unnecessarily strong bits as well; Personally, I ride with a Tom Thumb in western schooling and a kimberwick in English schooling. The horse I own, who I rehabilitated from a trainers abuse about three years ago, and who I just purchased, is quite weird about bits. You either use no bit, or you use a very harsh bit; Any other way he goes bonkers. Other than that I trained one this year who broke every one of their owner's ribs, and threw multiple other people off; I started in an Argentinien Dog Bone Snaffle, and by the time I stopped riding her, I was going entirely bridleless. I have known horses who've had their noses broken by Hackamore bridles; Or who buck, kick, rear, without the constant pressure of the bit telling them not to. In the end, it comes down to horse and rider, and what they are comfortable with.
@@lacisix9879 I agree. My horse had his nose broken by someone who rode him bitless... He had to be put down. They can both be used wrong but you can see that Jesse has soft hands with both.
@@peyteneq5301 yes some are much worse than others but they are all painful. Imagine somebody pulling on a rope/metal piece in your mouth that you can never avoid. Research the effects of bits on a horses teeth and jaw. No bit is healthy. But bits are bits and people will continue to use them but I am delighted to see people trying kinder methods of riding. There's always room for improvement
@@Turrzan Not necessarily, if selected, fitted, and used correctly. Some horses never feel comfortable in a bit even if they aren't necessarily in pain. Some horses practically put the bit in their mouths themselves when you come with the bridle!
@@peyteneq5301 okay like c'mon though, it's a piece of metal in their mouths. That's not comfortable? Or natural? Let's be honest here like. So many people have an issue admitting that bits are uncomfortable and I know it's hard to admit since we all use them or used to use them. And yes some horses take the bit so easily when putting on the bridle but thats because they are trained to take the bit. But implying that horses WANT the bit in their mouths because they take it well while putting on the bridle? C'mon man... That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard anyone suggest. Yeah some horses put up with it so well and they manage to get away without any mouth injuries that's excellent but jfc they don't LIKE it. Have you done any research whatsoever? It doesn't seem like you have, and if you did research then you weren't researching the right thing. I was also like you, in denial completely about bits. But I'm older now and I can admit they are not healthy for the horse.
@@Turrzan You are right, some bits can hurt horses' mouths, but ones that are properly fitted and used do not. I have a bit collection and some of the homemade old-time bits are just awful to imagine in a horse's mouth-- I'm glad they are hanging on my wall instead! Improper riding technique can also cause bits to hurt a horse's mouth and this is the rider's fault. This may not happen much or for long because such a horse will not perform well for that rider and that rider may quit or switch to another horse.
The horse probably associates the bit with draw reins/side reins/ heavy hands. When the bit is taken away, he is better but still BTV a little at times.
The horse is young, still not working correctly over his back, and that can often lead to them tipping a little bit behind the vertical. It really isn't the end of the world, once it gets stronger it will come up and out more :)
@@ruben3937 it's hard to fuck off when the future is going downhill like all the dressage horses in draw reins. Jesse does in fact have low hands, but he isn't exactly moving them to let the horse free his head like it wants to.
This horse is beautiful. Good job introducing the bitless bridle to him. Jesse's horse was definitely not as behind the vertical (with his head) in the bitless. He seemed a much more relaxed horse and happier too. I also loved that he reached for contact a few times, and stretched out without taking advantage of the rider. That said, IF you're planning to continue with the bitless bridle, he'll need a bit more work rounding and staying collected while working. But he can do this! This horse was much nicer for the first time bitless than any of mine were--especially in the open (hacking out.) Good job!
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he actually looked better with the bitless than with the bit . he went more forward into your hand and pushed more with the hind legs. it looked really good!
I was thinking the exact same thing. The horse whole body language changed, when the bitless got on. I ride with both bit and bitless, my hose gose very well on both and I think it's importen to change what you are riding with from time to time.
And I agree with what Jesse said about riding with or without a bit, ride in what works for you and your horse.
I definitely agree with bitless and my old horse went really well and bitless but my new horse is just too strong to go bitless so I have him on a magic bit to try and stop pressure on his mouth and eventually I do hope go bitless. I'm currently selling my old horse and videos will be going up soon
Heather Bruce-Jones a magic bit? You mean a Cambridge mouth snaffle? They do the same pressure as any other snaffle bit.
Bullshit.
@@theshinigami It's not the bridle its the hands.
He was so much more relaxed. He was not over tucked as he was in the bit. Head carriage is so much better.
So beautiful... When the horse isn’t concentrating on the pain of a bit, he can concentrate on what you’re asking him 😍 I hope more people can appreciate this and start a bitless revolution ❤️❤️❤️❤️
In educated hands bits are not painful.
@@terryhey6730 it doesn’t matter how educated the rider is, many of them use it as a form of punishment and control. If that weren’t the case, you wouldn’t have a lot of riders disqualified for blood in the horses mouth during competition.
@terryhey6730 They're at the very least uncomfortable.
I love that you recognise that different horses do better with different methods of bitted riding or bitless riding, a lot of people struggle to understand that haha. He looked great bitless, good job! :)
I call bullshit. The reason that horses usually freak out when bitless is because their not used to anything softer and non-painful.
Emma Episode oml you're so ignorant. Some horses don't like face pressure, mine sure doesn't. It's like some like leg pressure and others don't
So true! My horse is a haflinger and was always ridden with a bit and his owner competed with him for years. When I bought him I firstly also competed but it was such a disaster.. we were just always racing trough the ring and he just simply didn't have a break. Then I tried bitless and since then ( almost 2,5 years ago ) we gained SO much trust in eachother and now we gallop on the beach of Hargen with only a neckrope. For us it really did wonders 😊👌
@@my_bay_jed5509 thank you!
When I was in Pony Club one of our senior members tried a bitless on her OTTB. If she used a hackamore that primarily put pressure on his nose (she had 3 trainers so that shit was properly fitted) he would throw his head up and began to threaten to rear, which he had never done before. Then when they switched to more poll pressure he would run right through her aids. He was a strong horse, but with a snaffle she'd never lost control before. He was an angel on the ground.
Well we did a cross country clinic and he bolted, and no amount of seat and pulling was going to stop a 17 hand thoroughbred on the run. He threw her and she cracked 3 ribs.
Now this was before the big bitless movement, so I don't know why she even tried it, but she totally lost her confidence and quit for a year. When she came back he was in a d-ring I think and she took her B test on him and passed. She was only in for a year after that before she aged out, but she never had another incident with him.
You can say he wasn't used to not feeling pain, but in the end no matter what they tried he never transitioned to getting "used to" the new pressure. And its naive to think my story is a unique one. Some horses can transition beautifully, and some will never be comfortable with added pressure on their nose and poll.
TL;DR: Work with a trainer, vet, and your horse to find what works best for all of you and your discipline and go with that. Period.
Emma Episode my horse hates pressure on her nose and face and rides much better in a bit and she loves putting on her bridle and opens up right away for her bit, you can’t tell me my horse doesn’t like a bit 🙄
The horse is really lovely, and his eyes when the new bridle is put is on is priceless.
Your horse is gorgeous and clearly looks happier bitless good job! You boys seem to have a decent understanding and knowledge of horses and horsemanship as well as truly care for your horses and their well-being which is very nice to see!
They don't know shit about horses, They are riding in toliet seats, and just gross
@@beautifulrebel1740 wow..u really are a rebel huh lol
@@beautifulrebel1740Now you're taking feminism a bit far
@@beautifulrebel1740
Not to be rude but , why ??
( I want to see both sides of the argument )
@@beautifulrebel1740 yes finally someone is saying something you are so right
He looks really good in the bitless bridle! He is less likely to go behing the vertical and is also more forward so that's a real sign of comfort
He seemed happier bitless. More relaxed.
More eager to work, too!
The horse looked more relaxed and happier bitless!! Almost all horses are more comfortable without a hard metal thing in their mouths! So I think it’s great you tried to ride without it! You’re horse seemed to really like it and seemed more comfortable.
Linn Rundkvist not mine hahah. i really tried but it was hell
@@shawnterm813 keep training without a bit. It will come around eventually
Katelin is here if only you knew diva. she’s an OTTB that hasn’t had any formal training and is still rlllly green. she trusts me so i have to do with she’s comfortable with and what’s right for her.
Nope not with mine I can trot and walk him bitless but as soon as we transition into canter all hell breaks loose 😂
MyBeautifulGrey same but mine looses it in the transition to trot 😂
Wow he looks so much better with the bitless. He is starting to carry himself properly and also he looks like he’s enjoying it a lot more. And I‘m a person that usually rides with a bit ;)
Peekay looked stunned when you first got on without the bit. He certainly was confused starting out but he looked like the longer you went the nicer he started looking. I recently moved my 12 yro gelding to bitless and noticed a huge difference after a week of getting used to the hack. He used throw his head with the slightest pressure and whenever he panicked he'd only get worse with the slightest of pressure with the bit. Now he stops and turns with the slightest pressure on the hack and whenever he spooks he responds a lot nicer when I give him direction on the hack. Most horses will do absolutely fabulous with a bitless bridle if given some time to adjust. Of course riding without a bit means your horse needs to have a lot of trust and respect for you. My mum's horse was trained bitless and due to her doing very little ground work he almost completely ignores her with a hack. Hopefully Peekay will stay bitless as he seems to do quite fine with it and he certainly trusts and respects you.
This video makes me so happy that people are exploring ant trying bitless!!!
Yea it’s great! Tons of UA-camrs are!
Same, maybe one day we can forget the bits completely.
I used to ride my pony bareback and with nothing but a halter. we would run a full course of jumps like that. I figure.. the horse is a million times stronger than us. if they are listening at all its willingly, so they would probably do it anyway withotu needing harsh aids
I did occasionally use draw reins on her when she wasnt understanding what i wanted her to do but once she understood i gtook them off and never had togo back them
All the horses I have met until now liked bitless better, and I think Pekay does, too! I'm actually riding my drafthorse (who likes to ignore me when I tell him in which direction he should go) bitless and it surprisingly works sooo much better!!!!
Annie. exe my horse try’s ignoring me too he basically goes the opposite direction
I find some sensitive horses actually have more trouble bitless. Four of my seven go bitless, but the other three haven't liked any of the bitless options I've tried. I would like to try this bridle as it seems very good for sensitive horses since there is leverage, but not too much. My strongest all go bitless except my little mare who loves to have support and to hang on the bit, but doesn't like the support provided by bitless bridles. The other two that don't go bitless are just too sensitive in bitless bridles. I think it also depends on the rider's hands. My hands certainly aren't very harsh, but I wouldn't describe them as soft.
@@lianellablackwood-darlingt2326 I've recently tried my horse with the animo bitmore bridle I think he prefers bitless but doesn't like the bridle, I'm hoping to get the one Jesse has been using
I prefer bitless but I don't hate on people who use bits. I think of bits, spurs and whips as training tools that get used wrong.
I trained my Qu pony bitless and the only reason I switched he to a bit was because I started have problems. She went threw a rebellious faze and I switched to get her to listen with less pressure. I then switched her back bitless when she was 6ish.
Yes,bits spurs and whips are only "abusive" as some may say if used wrong
I prefer to use bits (mainly plastic ones I don't now how to describe them but they have plastic-y feel)
Because I've tried with all of my horses to train them to go bitless (only one can be ridden bitless and he's my 26 year old) for years but they never catch on and always seem more stressed without one Wich is wierd
But I love how you respect us bit users
Wishing you the best of future with your horse
I alway say bits are not for all horses just as bitless is not for all horse. Good luck with your horses as well.
kodieack kodie exactly. Thank you.
Hades Daughter Thank you for saying this. Bits are only abusive if you make them that way.
Ok so you might be able to answer a question. Can you get an accurate idea of how your horse will do bitless by using a halter? I'm very interested in trying bitless on my mare but I don't want to invest the money just to experiment if I don't need to.
Without the bit it becomes whole body communication. You both show so much consideration for your horses. Awesome caring.
He has a lovely movement for a 5 year old he has a lovely up beat trot stride and a nice love fluent canter stride
It's great that you're trying bitless! I love these videos.
Edit: what a rider Jesse is! Blimey! wow. I love that he doesn't have extremely short reins.
Oh, and there you have it. He changed the rein so his horse doesn't get stiff on one leg. You don't know how many people don't bother to change the rein, and then get angry when their horse is stiff. I applaud you, sir. No whip, no spurs...wow...👍👍👍
Peekay is such a beautiful horse!
This horse has a stunning canter!!!
he looks so much better in riding without a bit, way more relaxed!
I like watching your videos! i enjoy watching you try different things and not always sticking to the "norm" I think too many horse people get too attached to one particular way of doing things - why not try new things that both you and your horse can learn and grow from!
I’ve never ridden bitless, but I thought the horse’s posture was much better without the bit. With the bit he spent most of the time behind the vertical, which really isn’t ideal for his breathing. The so-called “modern dressage” may teach that this is correct but to me this is based on rollkur (cruelty) and has no value. I am a “classical dressage” rider all the way!
I'm a classical dressage rider as well. The horse probably associated the bit with draw reins/side reins/heavy hands. When it was taken away, he instantly became softer(shows how poorly he was trained rather than all the miracles bitless bridles apparently do). Sad to see where dressage is going these days.
That's not correct rolkur is a cruel way to get that carriage but that carriage is based on training that is slow not rolkur
i agree..im old and french.. that was how we learned in ancient time,with a bended horse neck..thats just cruel for the horse...just try running with a potatoe bag on the back and looking at your shoes,lol
sorry for my bad english, I'm french ^^
I am so proud to see horses that know how to work without having to be supervised all the time. Even without bit your horse is relaxed, work with his back, has symmetrical gait, engages his weight and has his head to the vertical! It proves that training is an apprenticeship for the well-being of the horse and that they understand it!
You and Matt are my favourite UA-camrs xxxxxxx
I'm fine with bitless bridles but I'm not fine when people say they cause zero abuse. I'm sorry but they still do, if used wrongly. You're still hanging off their nose. If used wrongly you can still cause damage. Same with a saddle. Used wrongly can cause pain, same with bareback. As I say again I don't find them wrong but it's just the people who think they cause zero abuse
You have to be able to ride with your whole body not just force the horse between your hand and your leg. Many people make horses look good but they are hiding up a horse's training faults. This horse transitioned well as he already knows how to carry himself. I've ound it easier on a horse who has been bitted than a horse who never has had a bit. It just takes longer but the results are well worth it.
I could never ride bitless i would have done more damage to my horse
Lyn George every horse that has been trained on his earth will at least have 1 training fault. Usually more then that. Even the best horses have training faults with the best trainers.
He did say something like 'you can't be hanging off the horse also with bitless because it's not really great.'
I fully agree with you. Especially bitless bridles made with leverage. Cause leverage is pressure and too much pressure could cause pain. So when going bitless, I advise people to use a traditional hackemore or a bridle like shown in the video. However, bits were made to apply pressure to the horses mouth. And almost every horse has been in a situation where it has gotten his mouth yanked on. So in conclusion, bits can cause pain extremely easily where as bitless bridles (the non-leverage ones) can only cause pain If the rider has extremely hard hands.
This young man is such a joy to watch and his caring of the horses.
Perfect example Jesse . You both did that very well. Smart choice
Staying in the area for the first few times . When I was young I used
A Hackamore bitless bridle which we used often for western riding
In Canada. Works very well depending upon the horse and training
Of the rider ! You have the expertise here . Shows in how you
Communicate with your horses. Thank you for the video. Best
Wishes. Keep up the great work !
Great horse - HE CAME ALIVE ! really good experience and much more natural for the animal. Enjoy and have many happy years!!
a few days ago I also tried this with a mare that I'm taking care of and it went super well since she is super sensitive and preferred to obtar not put anything in his mouth and put bitless, I think it was a good option and she was very comfortable...
I'm sorry if you do not understand, I do not speak much English, I try to explain myself the best I can. I love what you do, it shows that you do a very good job with the horses, so you have my full support!👏🏻🐴💕
Aitana Valle For not speaking much English I would say that you wrote that well! One day I need to be bold enough to learn a language other than my own.
The best thing about riding bitless is that is can help you diagnose problems with a horse that leans on the bit. I felt like when you first started riding his nose was too close to his front, meaning his head position was too inverted instead of being straight up and down. I hope I was able to be clear about that. I'm sure that with a younger horse, they are still trying to figure out what position you are asking for. He was so well behaved, you should be proud of Peekay today!! Very nice video!
In my opinion He Looks better without a Bit! So Maybe you can do it more often
The bit is so last century welldone for converting from the bit to bitless so more natural for the horse that are very much more soft and sensitive .you guys are awesome 💕
He looks so much more relaxed in the bitless! I’m glad you gave the bitless bridal a chance
i have never ridden bitless, but this was amazing. his head was not over tucked and riding bitless shows the rider that it’s not all about the bit and the reins. it shows that you need to work your thighs, calves and shows 3 others of the 4 natural aids. well done jesse!
I very much love the idea of no bit! Brilliant
Nice video!
The horse didnt dive behind the vertical so much with the bitless. Lovely to watch. In general the bit together with harsh/clumsy hands often cause pain and discomfort on the horses mouth, and then one loses relaxation and forwardness in the horse. You seem to have alot of empathy for your horse, something that is rare today among horse riders. Thanks for a lovely video and take care!
J.C V thank you!!
It is really awesome to find riders I enjoy watching and can learn from, then to see you guys promoting bitless! Which is something I deeply believe in and wish to learn as I progress as a rider.
Round of applause is all I can say...well done boys 😀
Another great collaboration! The horse really like going bit less.
Just a little piece of advice (coming from a bitless rider): give out on the reins a little more when bitless, because each tug leads to pressure on the nasal bone, so he might become less sensitive to soft signals (stopping, turning etc.) when he needs to get used to a constant pressure being normal. I feel like your horse gives into pressure from the reins (both with and without the bit) quite easily and thus might make it feel like he‘s not ‚on the reins‘ resulting in you taking the reins up more? Please correct me if I’m wrong..
IMO riding bitless can go hand in hand with riding more via seat and voice, leaving the signals with the reins soft as to not hurt or harm the horse‘s nasal bone.
Ive been riding bit less for only a few months as I got my first lease horse. I wanted to ride bit less and my lease horse loves it. He went from continently shaking his head around and pulling the reins out of my hands to keeping his head still. Although I don’t ride in a bridle, I ride in a halter with fluff under the nose and and behind the ears, and he loves it. And omg I thought training was going to be so easy watching youtubes ride their horses bit less, and well it is not easy at all. But of course training takes time, and I’ve become so much better of a rider relying on my body instead of the reins. I don’t even touch the reins now, as my lease horse hates pressure so I give him the space he needs. And may I add that my lease horse is pretty aggressive so he’s constantly trying to bite other horses and lunge at them, but he handles much better now. I definitely suggest trying bit less if any of you have a horse or lease, but of course it’s all about the horse. Just please don’t be one of those people that try their horses bit less, there horse loves it, but continue to ride in a bit so you can show. You’re horse is to work with you and try and make you happy, if you’re making them uncomfortable for your own pleasure to show, you’re not a true equestrian. I would love to show, but I’m not going to do it until I don’t have to rely on my hands at all. If you can ride without doing anything with your hands( turning, backing up, stopping, etc.) then I believe it’s okay to ride in a bit. You can train a horse to do anything without the help of tack extras like martingales and such. Also, if you say you’re horse doesn’t like pressure from a bitless bridle on it’s nose and such, there shouldn’t be pressure in the first place, and if you only tried your horse but less and say they looked better with a bit, you need to train your horse. It takes the same amount of time to train a horse in a bit than riding without. You need to train your horse cues bit less and it takes time just like when breaking a horse. I’m not saying you NEED to ride without a bit, but riding a few times without taking the time it takes to train a horse bit less, doesn’t mean you can automatically say you don’t ride it because your horse didn’t behave bit less. No hate ❤️ You two looked wonderful
OMG Fiiirst🤩 I love your Videos🎉 you and Matt are so cool and motivating
I always appreciate when people mount with a step :) much more easy on the horse's back
this is litteraly proof that horses can be ridden in bitless bridles! love bitless!
That bit is functional and stylish. Pekay looks stunning
His little beard glows when he gets into the light, talking about the horse btw
Random Stranger yus I love his little beard
That was awesome, bitless for the win for sure. He has a canter like a rocking horse, beatiful boy ❤
For me bitless is the normal 😂I love how you tried bitless!! ❤️❤️
Has a lot of love for the horse...not just a rider and a mule...He has a personal touch and feel and the Horse is more than content!
I have to agree that his trot looks better without the bit. The canter wasn't bad at all too. Love the horse, he has an awesome colour.
Klisna Dada thanks!!
I applaud you for going bitless. His trot looks like he is just floating on air. Great job to both rider and horse.
New to your channel and I love it!
The horse looks totally different without the bit. With the bit he was frothing at the mouth and tossing his head a little, as though he was trying to remove the pressure from his mouth. But the moment you switched to the bitless bridle I could see the transformation. The horse's ears were twitching back and forth, listening to his rider's instructions and just not once frothing or pulling at the reins. He looked so surprised with the bitless bridle and got used to it in a matter of minutes. That's amazing!
0:37 when you did something wrong with tacking up but dont know what it is
Omfg I love that paha
I know that feeling so well...
Smile Stables lmao
I love you guys! The horse is behind the bit with both bridles. At first. His face does become vertical which is very nice. He goes better without the bit. Much better. He looks like he has had kur training with the bit.
I guess my opinion is an unpopular one, but he looked much more through in the back and had more drive from the back legs with the bit. Bitless he had his nose on the vertical at times, but very often his back was hollow or flat and was less forward with his hind end.
Am I saying bitless is bad? No. Am I saying it won't work for this horse? No, this was only his first time being ridden in new equipment. But I am not going to say he looked better bitless just because I want the OP to see it and keep using that bridle or because I want likes from animal activists.
Whatever this equestrian chooses, he has nice soft hands and I saw no signs of discomfort or avoidance techniques from his mount in either bridle. Very well ridden :)
I think it's quite the opposite. Yes, there was a little bit more movement from the back legs with the bit, but the thrust got lost halfway through the horses body. The impulsion was better with the bitless bridle, the horse was able to relax more, so the movement went through the whole horse. There was more "spring" in the gaits.
The elevated head and hollow back are usually not a problem caused by the bitless bridle, but by the horse not being able to or not wanting to hold itself in a proper carriage for an extended period of time. It's typical for younger horses. It shows up less with the bit, because you can force the horses head down a lot easier with the bit. The problem is, if you force the head down, the horse will get stiff and lose impulsion. That's something that needs to be fixed with good training, not with putting on a different bridle.
I also kinda disagree on the nice soft hands. Sure, he doesn't yank on the reins and he also gives a quick release at times, but overall he's holding on to the reins quite tightly. The reason why the horses head went behind the vertical so much with the bit, is not because he's got something in his mouth, but because the rider is clinging onto the reins so tightly. Give the horse a little bit more rein, and the head will stay on the vertical.
Also, getting onto a horse and gathering up the reins immediately to ask the horse for contact without letting it stretch on a long rein for the first few minutes is a no go for me (Relaxation comes before contact!). Jesse has a nice seat, but I don't quite agree with his rein situation. Sorry Mr.Drent!
I’m in the middle on this... drive can be related to the ride. The hind leg is stepping under and through similar with the bit and bit less but the big change is how open the horse gets up front through the neck and throat latch. Never want to see a horse btv. And bitless, for this horse, may be a great tool to unlock the front end and encourage poking his nose in front while stepping the hind leg well under his body.
Such a nice view of horse that can move properly and take 100% natural body posture while run! Bitless he seem actually enjoying movement while with the bit he's struggling and foaming.
I'm so happy that you're active again 😍👍🏼
I think you are doing amazing job with promoting riding bitless. Horse looks way more relaxed.
Thank you!
Matt how did you not get dizzy 😵
Why should he?
Fre Sha Va Ca Do When He was recording Jesse he was spinning to get Jesse in the frame! :)
Definitely looks more comfortable bitless 🥰✌️
Love bitless... on certain horses that is hahah :)
No. Any horse can do bitless. But stupid humans with hard hands make hard horses and then they dont listen to soft pressure anymore.
What she means is some horses are really cheeky and it’s easier to control them with a bit,I’m not into bits but...
@@ticiax3965 thank you for backing me up. I'm no stupid human I've been riding for 15 plus years I've helped train and break horses. So your telling me you'd get on a 4 yr old stallion with no bit? Props to you but I dont wana break my neck and possibly die. But yes you should always ride with caring hands and some horses need bits sorry lol oh and for the record I've ridden bitless on my mount for 5 years now :) but hes also 14 years old and fully trained :)
Chelsea d me too
Chelsea d if you don’t feel safe getting on a 4 year old Stallion then you need to take some steps back and do basic training. Stallion or not, horses doesn’t need bits. Humans does. If you feel that he’s to Young or inexperienced then wait to ride him until you trust him. Start from the ground not from the top. (Also 15 years of experience doesn’t mean you’re an expert. It could mean you’ve gotten 1 or 2 years of experience 15 times. A person with only 1 or 2 years of good experience and lots of knowledge could be better than a person with 15 years of experience.) don’t take this as hate I’m only statist facts and theories.
Looked so much better and happier bitless, as do pretty much all horses, plus he’s not slobbering everywhere
Annie: Sings it's a hard knock life while mopping
Equestrians: sings hard knock life while trying to figure out how the girth fits on.
He's got such a calming and sweet manner with the horses, and that shows in how the horses act around him.
What tall boots are you wearing? They are so lovely!
Danielle Charles the boots are from Kingsley!
There called Half Chaps or at least thats what we call them in Texas😂 And then we call the ankle high boots Paddock Boots
Jesse is so kind and respectful of the horse.It's a joy to watch Jesse work with his horses. It's the same with dogs--treat them with respect and they will want to work with you. Cruelty never works. It would be great if going without a bit became the standard for horses.
I'm not trying to be mean or anything but certain people should ride bit less, but even tho he rides in a bit you can tell the horse isn't in pain or uncomfortable. I think he does a really nice job in a regular bridle or hackamoore
It must be a lovely feeling for the horse to be able to fully relax and open his mouth when he wants to without having a piece of metal moving around his mouth. Nice work.
3.19 I am screaming in my head, give out on the reins, GIVE OUT ON THE REINS...
The horse is young and under education, it needs more space to move in, until it is stronger...
That's why it becomes behind the bit, give out and it will fix itself with time..
Same! I can see that this horse has been draw reined way too much (or had a rider with super heavy hands).
Yes, yes, yes! I got all tense when I was watching and was saying the same, I wanted him to just try it for a few strides and see what wonders would happen. So glad you spoke up. This is a young man who does care about his horse--- bet he takes your suggestion--as fun as bitless!!!!
It looks like the horse is well trained, but he is just holding it in to much, it wants to do the right thing.
I see this a lot, people don't do it to be cruel, but they can't see themselves. And it might feel right, he said it's a sensitive horse and a horse like that, might not be as heavy in your hands as other more sturdy horses, and therefore feel like you don't have connection and make you pull your reins back to get it.
But he has a soft style, slow and steady movement with his hands, so he just needs to learn what this horse feels like.
If you just focus on where the head is, instead of how the horse moves, how it uses its back and so on, you kinda end up with this.
Also people tend to use the reins to control speed, instead of using the seat.
I know the technical aspect of riding, but I ain't there were I can ride as I preach..
@@Galemor1 I helped the TD work as a bit checker at a dressage show once. I told her that I had seen a horse pretty far BTV (I also knew this horse from a past barn and how it was trained (ouch)). She looked at them riding and she said that it looks like the rider 'wasn't doing it intentionally' so she couldn't do anything about it. They do it but they don't see it really. Very sad
Anne Nielsen he did nothing wrong
You always put a smile on my face. Such a good person.
Please stay on bitless
2:23 all I'm gonna say.
@@ruben3937 but i said that i want him to stay bitless, i didnt say that he needs to stay bitless...
horselover _2018 he cant tho, in dressage you have to have a bit.
@@dawndishsoap4744 well fuck that. His horse is more important than a rule made by idiots
@@Crow-ig4py well i don't think you can ever ride a horse competition ready (for dressage) when riding bitless. Yes i agree this horse reacted AMAZING on it but i think a lot of people can agree with me that this horse was really long in his body with the bitless bridle and not collected or not as collected as he should be. if i do this with my 6 yo i will never ever get him collected and if he has a lot of energie he would just simply take control in these moments.
Good point Matt about how a better rider does not rely so much on the rein to head contact (as if driving a stagecoach!) but uses leg and seat.
I think people should go for what ever works for there horse and which there more comfortable in I rode a horse who prefers a bit or bitless/hackamore .
Such a lovely horse! I have a 4yo Belgian Warmblood X ISH and I can't imagine working him bites for a long time!
*struggles to do up girth*
*starts singing songs from Annie*
😂😂😂
The equestrian version of annie.😂
Great job, I have been training my dressage horse bitless for a year now. She was very shy and would hide. Now she is so confident and better head carriage.
Thank you for supporting the transition away from cruelty
Not all bits are cruel! And wrong used also a bit less can harm a horse!
@@Alyathaean what's the point of a bit other than pulling on their mouth and causing pain and discomfort
xXINeedALifeXx Communicating with the horse. With some horses it works better bitless but others prefer bits. Any piece of equipment can cause pain in the wrong hands, but bits, when used correctly are not painful to horses
The world needs people like you
Good job
I always ride in a bitless bridle 😍
Yes! Much more relaxed for the horse
I love how much you pay your horse :DD
Also his trot and canter is soooo beautiful
Hi Matt.. you look great in mirror.. Nice job Jesse
Gratulation Jesse und Peekay !! Das haben Sie beide sehr gut gemacht 👍 mir gefällt die Art wie Sie mit Peekay umzugehen. Sehr freundlich und vertrauensvoll. Hier sieht man deutlich: wenn der Reiter dem Pferd Zeit in der Ausbildung gibt, ist es bereit alles möglich zu machen. Es braucht kein Gebiss "zur Kontrolle"! Mit Hilfen bekommt man das hin - es braucht Geduld. Wie leicht und schwungvoll er sich bewegt und mit maximaler Aufmerksamkeit bei der Sache! Wunderschön auch, dass Sie ihm die Möglichkeit geben sich vorwärts abwärts zu dehnen. Er schnaubt ab und kaut. Braucht es noch mehr positive Rückmeldung von Peekay ❤ weiter so, vielen Dank 👏
You and matt are having a cute bromance 👯♂️😂😍
maxima 15 totally shipped
I love riding horses!
I don’t do it often enough.
The last time I road was in a small western town where horses are stabled and people also can bring in their horses to ride.
A visiting tribe of Indians was relaxing, sitting, outside the bar.
A horse was tethered.
My sister-in-law doubted my riding abilities so I ended up going for a short ride on it.
Texans are horse people!
Much thanks to the gracious Indian chief!!!
The bitless bridle is prettier too!
Labrador Paradise yessss thank you!
Jesse you are a lovely natural rider, so well balanced and tactful. You can ride so many different types of horses well.
Is this the stable of Britt dekker
Maaike De Vries yes it is
Maaike De Vries // De stal is niet van haar maar Britt staat wel op Koole Dressage ja!
Instills confidence in this young horse: horse has soft eyes, beautiful expression, super soft transitions, rider has soft hands that give to his mouth and pats on inside of neck and great rider equilibrium. I vote yes on the bitless, but will come into his own with a bit. He's a baby, so there's plenty of time :)
I'm not hating, just commenting on how I see things. Personally I hate it when people ride in rollkur (horse has its nose tucked in behind vertical line of its face) and also noticed he's giving conflicting messages. Pulls back both with bit and bitless, which horse thinks means stop, so constantly kicks horse to keep trotting. And is he using spurs?
But I do like how he sits down softly without just plopping his weight down onto the horse's back and praises him.
He's 'half halting' where he presses the horse forward and blocks him with the bit. It presses their head into a frame and leaves the hind trailing. It's just a bunch of modern dressage crap. He is not using spurs, which I am a fan of though.
I just looked again and he is wearing spurs! They just blend in with his boots. What is the point of using spurs when your horse gets dull to them because you're poking them with it all the time?
dava davis rollkur is when the horses head is touching it almost touching their chest. What you’re talking about is a horse being behind the vertical (when the horses nose is behind the vertical line of its face)
Even though it's not a rollkur. Having the head behind the vertical isn't good either. The head should be at the vertical or even before it. I don't hate on Jesse since I like it that he is promoting the bitless. But in my opinion it's at its limit...
@dava davis Agreed!
As Matt said, the left lead seemed easier for him because he definitely had more jump in the canter on the left lead. The bitless seems to ask for more self carriage, so for a 5 year old horse, he did quite well. I enjoyed the way the horse seems to have affection for Jesse too. And Jesse, you did a good job of keeping your seat and not allowing him to pull you forward in the contact.I enjoy these videos so much. Living in a rural area of Texas, I enjoy hearing someone speak my speak as far as horses.
Khanalee thank you so much
He feels better without the bit..Looks better and moves better..No pain..I am not a fan of bits..
I can see both... I've shown horses who require strong bits, and horses with unnecessarily strong bits as well; Personally, I ride with a Tom Thumb in western schooling and a kimberwick in English schooling. The horse I own, who I rehabilitated from a trainers abuse about three years ago, and who I just purchased, is quite weird about bits. You either use no bit, or you use a very harsh bit; Any other way he goes bonkers. Other than that I trained one this year who broke every one of their owner's ribs, and threw multiple other people off; I started in an Argentinien Dog Bone Snaffle, and by the time I stopped riding her, I was going entirely bridleless. I have known horses who've had their noses broken by Hackamore bridles; Or who buck, kick, rear, without the constant pressure of the bit telling them not to. In the end, it comes down to horse and rider, and what they are comfortable with.
@@lacisix9879 I agree. My horse had his nose broken by someone who rode him bitless... He had to be put down. They can both be used wrong but you can see that Jesse has soft hands with both.
You always find ways to have fun with the horses. I love that. Very entertaining 😎😊
Plaese, also watch WarwickSchiller if you realy want to learn everything about horses!
Warwick Schiller. Elisa Wallace. And Think Like a Horse. Learned tons from all three...
He looks more relaxed,I think the bitless bridle is a great invention!! Love your video,Jesse!!
Bits can be so painful! If you go bitless you will see your horse become happier! I think he did very well 😊
Not all are but some can be
@@peyteneq5301 yes some are much worse than others but they are all painful. Imagine somebody pulling on a rope/metal piece in your mouth that you can never avoid. Research the effects of bits on a horses teeth and jaw. No bit is healthy. But bits are bits and people will continue to use them but I am delighted to see people trying kinder methods of riding. There's always room for improvement
@@Turrzan Not necessarily, if selected, fitted, and used correctly. Some horses never feel comfortable in a bit even if they aren't necessarily in pain. Some horses practically put the bit in their mouths themselves when you come with the bridle!
@@peyteneq5301 okay like c'mon though, it's a piece of metal in their mouths. That's not comfortable? Or natural? Let's be honest here like. So many people have an issue admitting that bits are uncomfortable and I know it's hard to admit since we all use them or used to use them. And yes some horses take the bit so easily when putting on the bridle but thats because they are trained to take the bit. But implying that horses WANT the bit in their mouths because they take it well while putting on the bridle? C'mon man... That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard anyone suggest. Yeah some horses put up with it so well and they manage to get away without any mouth injuries that's excellent but jfc they don't LIKE it. Have you done any research whatsoever? It doesn't seem like you have, and if you did research then you weren't researching the right thing. I was also like you, in denial completely about bits. But I'm older now and I can admit they are not healthy for the horse.
@@Turrzan You are right, some bits can hurt horses' mouths, but ones that are properly fitted and used do not. I have a bit collection and some of the homemade old-time bits are just awful to imagine in a horse's mouth-- I'm glad they are hanging on my wall instead!
Improper riding technique can also cause bits to hurt a horse's mouth and this is the rider's fault. This may not happen much or for long because such a horse will not perform well for that rider and that rider may quit or switch to another horse.
Pretty cool video to watch, nice to hear you both work together. Pretty horse 🐎
Not a fan of how over flexed he is in the bit
The horse probably associates the bit with draw reins/side reins/ heavy hands. When the bit is taken away, he is better but still BTV a little at times.
The horse is young, still not working correctly over his back, and that can often lead to them tipping a little bit behind the vertical. It really isn't the end of the world, once it gets stronger it will come up and out more :)
I saw the saddle and fell in love. Spend the whole video looking at it. I have no idea why i like this saddle so much.
Way to deep. It's a young horse, let his head more forward. hands higher.
!!!!! This horse has had way too much draw reins/side reins/heavy hands. Sad to see where dressage is going
@@Lara-pt1lu oh fuck off. He was being really soft in his hands.
I ride young horses with low hands, it is in your prefrance of riding.
Roo Berry yeah of course. In your preference is to ride like shit.
@@ruben3937 it's hard to fuck off when the future is going downhill like all the dressage horses in draw reins. Jesse does in fact have low hands, but he isn't exactly moving them to let the horse free his head like it wants to.
This horse is beautiful. Good job introducing the bitless bridle to him. Jesse's horse was definitely not as behind the vertical (with his head) in the bitless. He seemed a much more relaxed horse and happier too. I also loved that he reached for contact a few times, and stretched out without taking advantage of the rider. That said, IF you're planning to continue with the bitless bridle, he'll need a bit more work rounding and staying collected while working. But he can do this! This horse was much nicer for the first time bitless than any of mine were--especially in the open (hacking out.) Good job!