[ CORRECTIONS ] 7:31 - The extra Battle Pass packs have been moved. They can be purchased 3 times each on the Battle Pass page. // 14:47 - With 7,500 CUB tickets you are guaranteed one (1) S-Rank CUB. Did the sped-up schedule impact how you're going to play PGR?
This is an opportunity to surpass whales themselves! They won't spend a dime? Then I shall spend everything and I will be the top in every ranking! *Proceeds to become homeless*
The amount of work put into this video is insane! I'm a new F2P player, but learning about how pricy these upcoming patches can get was very educational and interesting! (thank you Kuro for giving SSS+ A-ranks to us F2P plebs)
@@k-BlazeWW30 duh, I did it so of course I know how it works lol. It's a cool way to go about getting people playing though, I hope they roll out more of the A ranks this way
@@Asendur I think so, because he, like me, is from Russia and therefore our cards are not accepted, and the Xsolla service does not work through the PC client... so either we wait until the crazy war with Ukraine ends, or risk buying pre-paid cards through third-party services and paying through a VPN with the risk of being left with nothing at any stage and the possible risk of being banned from the game.
To be honest when it comes to getting upgrade material I'm having time of my life lol. I easily managed to resonance luna now I'm planning to build and make my a rank team's stronger I need good lighting and fire team. Until I get s rank dps for both elements I recommend you all to farm everything you need.
I applaud the amount of work and number crunching you did for this video. This definitely gives a new perspective on the spending for these patches (or at least for luna patch). It look way way worse without all this data compiled in such a friendly manner. I hope this gives back hope to those who have lost it. It sure did for me! Thank you so much for this!
Absolutely insane video, extremely clear and useful, i imagine that it took a lot of time to do all the calculations so thank you Ivy! That said, unfortunately Kuro has spears towards them on both sides: if they listen to us global and give us more currency and other things CN players will rage and we know that it is not a good idea; if they ignore us and keep che CN side chill they will anger the global community. It's a lose lose situation for them, but it's less risky this way than angering CN imho, seeing what they did with other gachas. Overall i'm kinda happy for the synchronization plan, and i am looking forward to the DMC collab, i hope that in tomorrow's livestream they'll show something!
Something to note, the Encrypted Intel and Top-Secret Intel Supply Packs are not in the shop, you can still get them on the BP screen multiple times. However, only the first purchase increases the levels.
Thanks for letting me know! The test-server must have put the packs in the shop as a weird work around. Honestly, it's probably better to keep all the BPs together since it's confusing having them split up between the BP and Shop screens.
on the "double patches all year" thing the math works out that if every patch after this is a double (no triples), the last double patch is october from november onwards we are fully caught up 2 months early feels significant
I understand why people mad about this, especially spenders. But I'm a low spender player (well i only bought monthly pass) and I'm really excited because we can catch up to CN Server. So I hope everyone can enjoy it too, and find the solution about this patch (either to spend a lot of rc or spend less rc or become F2P player) :D
Great vid, and nice to see someone actually doing the math for this kind of stuff. This sync patch definitively isn’t as doom and gloom as others make it out to be
Luna is obtained using BC. The other characters are obtained using a currency that at this point many should have in abundance. Besides, those other two are more likely to never be used
@@christiabayu3325sorry if that sounds stupid but is there a way to get them directly or is it intended to use the shards to unlock them. I am a bit worried to waste shards^^"
The triple monthly BC packs are so worth it. Two passive and one active for $20 so good. Luna is still meta in CN and her play style is one of the most fun to play too.
Thank you for taking the time to really lay out all the mathematical facts on this new era of PGR. I definitely had not originally considered that getting way more of the high value packs could be a reasonable way to bridge some of the gap that comes with getting 3x the paid bundle options slapped down on the table for us. This is far from perfect, but given the situation Kuro has to navigate I think this is about as close as we were going to get with a happy medium. My hope is that F2P players who are getting the hook-up (as long as they can keep up with daily play and events) will balance out whatever spenders bow out by maybe getting them to feel compelled to toss kuro a little cash here and there down the road. Either way this was a topic I was doing research on as well and as always GRR has laid out the information in an excellently organized and easy to digest fashion. The global sync is still a daunting change for this community to navigate, but I think a lot of us at least feel a bit less stressed seeing what the options are to try and mitigate the cost of getting multiple patches in a single go. Thanks as always for the excellent work.
So crazy thing about teddy and ardeo. I already have all the event shards cuz i like to harvest serum bottles when i can especially when waiting for a new patch to come out. I dumped it all into the material event and am only missing the shop shards to hit sss+ i really wasn't expecting this from kuro, but i can definitely say that i'm very happy with how the patch is turning out so far.
I usually spend $200 each patch to SSS S ranks and get all the necessary stuff. Now I spent about $350 for Luna, Weapon, Cub and Alpha skins. I think the bonus miscellaneous stuff are nice from the spending events
Same here bro, $200 a patch or less for me and I can get some S ranks to SSS or close to SSS. Some fun incentives here and there, just to get the juicy fruits up in the uppc trees. Now spend that much on this patch and Luna would laugh at you for being broke. Sad state of pgr.
@@Nomimonyo once we catch up. It’s gonna be just the ol regular patch they’ll probably see a decrease of dolphins on spending and some might quit just cause but we’ll see an uptake when they release DMC 5 collab characters
Thank you so much! It was a much bigger undertaking than I thought it would be, haha~ Now I just have to hope Kuro didn't change the bundles between the beta server and public server!
@@GrayRavenRadio you would have to make everything again from scratch haha, even tho it's rewarding for you, i really doubt that there are other channels going throught all the hard work you put on this, so more viewers looking for this kind of information and less channels offering
Thanks for the video, it is definitely a huge help. I would say the accelerated schedule is probably going to hit me the least because I don't go too far beyond getting the character once and their weapon (if I like them, hence not even touching Lamia's banner). However, as someone who saves up BC and stuff for all that, I expect there to be issues even with the tripled returns on dailies and what have you. So, I genuinely appreciate the breakdown on values for packs, especially in a time where it's a bit asinine to expect us to buy three battle passes at once.
YEAHH IVY YOU’RE BACK ❤️ Or not really because you’re always behind the scenes but still-!! Yeah, seems according to RC value to BC is generally better the cheaper the pack if we assume you’re buying $20 worth of RC.
Appreciated your time and effort making this. I just started last week and your guy's channel has helped me make a plan to obtain the units i want and if i feel like swiping how to get the best bang for my buck. I hope everyone an early pull and that coating you want is rerun soon.
Super Good Video for planning my spendings. Makes the Integrated Patch feel way less doomed for the amount I normally spend and what my goals are. Thank you very much!!! 🥳🥳❤
this game is blessed for having content creator like you thank you ❤ and they really give you sss+ A rank without having to pull and grind them 2 fragment a day. kuro winning again.
Yey, Ivy is back! I'm glad you did the math. As very light spender myself even through this integration is too expensive for me, I saw that overall it's more efficient for whales. The only thing that bugs me out a lot is the fact even through global is catching up with CN, Kuro did nothing to RC top up amount. It's known for years that global get's 15% less RC then CN for the same money, but for some reason no one talks about it. This is the thing that has to be fixed in the first place.
I think this is the first time I've heard Ivy. I'm too used to hearing Lina. xD Personally, the accelerated releases doesn't really affect me that much. I'm definitely concerned for the future condensed patches with potential double S ranks and the gacha coatings I'm waiting for, but for the current patch, I'm not too troubled since like Ivy said, we only have Luna to worry about because we can get maxed out Teddy and Bridget for free. I love PGR because of how F2P friendly it is, which is why I get the monthly pass to show my support for the devs. Didn't know we could get up to 3 right now. I don't think I need to spend more than I already do, but now I kinda want to get a 2nd monthly pass. My thinking is that this isn't a normal occurrence and it will go away once we catch up to CN, so it might not be a bad idea to capitalize on it and get some extra BC for unforeseen circumstances. Edit: In terms of spending, I see why people are worried, especially big spenders. I can't relate to whales or people who can SSS every character, but I'm sure they're the worst hit. However, with Kuro's current implementation (pairing an S-rank with A-ranks), I don't think they have much to worry about (again, free A-ranks). The real issue will be if they decide to pair S-ranks together on the same patch. Assuming we get appropriately increased rewards plus the surplus BC from previous condensed patches, I'm sure most players can get both S-ranks, but spenders, with no extra bonuses on bundles, might be forced to spend twice as much to max them out. This might be an issue worth bringing up in the surveys.
Great coverage on this! The worst part of being a light spender, buying monthly passes and the weapon BPs, is absolutely the extra amount we have to spend now within a patch cycle to maintain the currency we'd normally get without the synchronization. You can tell Kuro Tried to compensate for light and heavy spenders, but it's not that great. Especially considering the multiple back-to-back S-ranks upcoming with Hanying/Wanshi/Lucia, and then Nanami/Ishmael/Lilith/Selena-sure we might be able to get them all to S-rank, though PPC skulls will quickly fall short for SS-ing them 😭 Legit Kuro could fix the worst of the cost issues by making the top-up monthly pass and BP supply packs (or more?) permanently available, rather than being limited to the respective patch cycle. Of course we'd still have to spend a higher amount over time, but we could spend on them when we can afford to spend extra without fretting about spending triple (or double) the usual in one patch cycle to keep up. And if ppl are worried about new players getting access to old passes and such, Kuro could check to see if the account played during that synchronized patch or something. Hopefully people can push for it in surveys and feedback, and that Kuro listens to it; it's the best solution that can be done that Probably won't upset the CN playerbase. Prayge
Buying all of the bundles is insane, lol. I hardly spend in game, but after watching this, I may definitely purchase a few more packs than usual. If ... I am able to. Excited for more content to brush through.
THANKS! I'm so grateful that you released this really helpful video during my pgr badluck crisis... Got overwhelmed by the packs in the store. Had to 60/60 Luna. The 80% weap pity rng kicked me out from having Luna's sig. Had to recycle my old construct's sigs just to craft Luna's sig, now ploom and Nanamimech are sig-less. I was already deciding if I should quit PGR entirely, maybe those 3 highest RC to BC value pack could fix my BC economy during this drought. 😟
@@YourProfessional-Gachagamer can't take a break with the state we're in. 1 day of bc lost = 3 days of bc lost. I'll still continue playing but rolling for everyone's sigs/cubs and pulling gacha skins is now not in my plans. I'll just cope and recycle the sigs of the out of meta constructs to save further bc.
@@SukasahaSukadi That's a good plan. Honestly I'm skipping Luna and pretty much Nihil units for now, I'll let my other DPS carry me through these times (although outfits are a bit of a must...)
I definitely got very, VERY lucky and got Luna quickly even before i spend anything. But since i already have Luna and just waiting until i get her signature weapon, i may or may not will spend to get Alpha's skin (since i kinda regret not able to get the collab skin at the time). Of course spend responsibly and only get what you really need, which in PGR standard is relatively view with just a S-rank and their signature weapon, the rest you can get on later date
Good math, I guess this is applicable more to the monthly spenders since I only spend for costumes. Hopefully Kuro gets the feedback they need, since there is A LOT of different packs and I can understand these can deter a lot spenders, even if they are getting more than they paid for previously.
This is not a content for me but I watched till the end and I felt your impressive effort and can't imagine doing all of that math hahah Your awesome 😍
Light spending has spoiled us in my opinion. What happened to gacha planning, that was a classic thing people used to do and make videos on. Because PGR was generous enough that we could get everything by being a light spender, now its coming to bite them back. Last game I remember that tried to sync up was ToF and boy they didn't even give any extra currency for dailies/weeklies. If we can be wise with our pulls and spend as much as we did, say just 1 monthly pass A per month, I think we can still come out happy by sacrificing some low priority gears(A rank signature weapons/CUBs) This is far more than what other games offer and I'll gladly be playing to catch up to CN.
@crimsonphoenix8907 Yes spoiled. You don't need everything. And they were crying about 3 characters a patch when we have A ranks and a couole free S ranks coming up so they don't need to get anymore than they usually do. While we get 3x the currency and free SSS+ A ranks. Honestly unless you're a skin collector, game is more than fair enough.
I mean, I agree in the fact that the solutions is just to proritize the S rank characters and their signature weapons and with the extra rewards will be easy (I am a low spender too, In fact I spend more in skins than in the actual characters XD)... but spoiled? Do you know how much an entire normal game cost? like... I don't know... f@cking Elden Ring with its DLC? I am sure you can get like 10 Elden Rings+DLC with the money you have spend in all your S ranks throught a year playing PGR (and mark my word Elden Ring is an absolute awesome game) I use ER as an example of how you can buy at least 1 AAA game full price, hours and hours of gameplay, with the money you could spend in one miserable copy of one character in PGR (and let me stress the word COULD, because I know how to save BC cards too). But the point is that I don't feel spoiled at all, I just feel that PGR abuses much less of its Gacha addict players than other games and in fact if you want to upgrade a character in PGR with gacha summons, it will cost you as much or even more than in other games, like those from Hoyoverse, I am sure you would need much more than 6 or 8 copies of a S rank character to get it to SSS in PGR, not even talking about SSS+. Personally, the only reason why I don't play Wuwa is because I feel like Kuro imitated the gacha system from other more expensive gachas like Genshin (it is not as expensive, but it is still halfway there) and I find it unacceptable. The day PGR's gacha stops being as f2p and low spender friendly as it is, that is the they I will left the game, despite the fact that PGR's story is gold and I love the characters a lot, but whatever...
Always have been a "F2P" (i am not going to talk about getting $30 worth of RC to support both the empyrea skins... on both EN and CN accounts...) Personally, the game is still the very same. Even though i *WAS* planning to become a consistent low spender this year onward, and that means synchronization ruined that long term planning, it technically will affect only the leaderboards, as Gen3 affix mechanics are still not *as* important as Gen2 were for the quality of life. Plus... personally speaking, i'm all for re-experiencing the hype bossfights/music that lays in wait this year for EN. It's absolutely stunning! Also nice to see you back Ivy, it has been a while since you appeared here
Thanks for covering this, super glad to hear from you again. Coating review 2 when?! A large part of the frustration at this point is about the devs just refusing to address anything. Most people that were already upset about the issue are going to open the game today to a thousand dollars of packs and get overwhelmed. I was told by numerous people that at least one of the spending event rewards were retroactive. And that we would be getting a Guild Expedition. Both of which were false. Im in the number 1 NA guild rn and thats just a huge portion of materials just gone...hopefully next version. So no, i won't be spending as much. I have to vote with my wallet if my word means anything. Im going to take advantage of my blue card selectors and continue to play and help my cadets. Goodluck on Luna. Hyped for Nanami still, so i have that to hold on to.
I'm currently F2P right now, so the patch acceleration didn't affect me as much. Just pulled for Luna, used the free weapon selector I got from topup rewards, and called it a day. Might have to skip Hanying for Lucia's new frame though
I don't know if the incentive events and the double A rank characters were a strategic move, but it will be interesting to see if it's enough to see quitters come back and ex-spenders to spend again. I also wonder how the double S rank patches will be handled, if differently at all.
The only thing i did was buy rainbow cards for 45 euros so i could get the Luna Oblivion skin and pulled her. I will still keep on playing because i love the game.
its the best.. you can get so much stuff.. and Luna Oblivion, her sig and her cub is free.. in the Spenders Voucher shop.. they added her in the selectors lols.. this is the BEST patch..
The battle pass gives 15k vouchers, that's 18 shards, plus the other 10 shards to a total of 28 shards, that is pretty much a copy of a character, and 2500bc on top of that.
I have to admit, the danganronpa investigation music was very fitting at 17:05 lmao. Personally I'm just going to adjust my spending but not quitting or anything. Still getting all the skins which is going to burn though.
Very well formatted video. I usually only get the monthly pass, and the 2 BPs each patch. I'll definitely get the monthly passes but I'm less sure about the BPs. Shame I also want the 2 coatings. Hard to justify spending 776 RC for the main value passes + coatings in a single patch. I'll sleep on it.
Who do you think I should get from the the beginner banner? Watanabe: I have the new Luna and a good fire team Lamia: I could her her signature weapon by a chance. My dark team isn’t that reliable
Personal pick based on your circumstances: Lamia, it would be a while for her to be replace as a dark Attacker Watanabe has a replacement in the form of SSS+ Bridgette(Free) but if you have him he's good!
Glad I waited till the new patch before spending for the spending event, This cuts my spending but it still sucks since we lose future foresight benefit and we are seeing characters get shelfed after a year or year n a half- which will be sped up with the sync.
Thanks for the math Ivy, I'm probably just gonna nab the the cw coating and dip, its too fine to skip. Haven't spend anything to buy packs before and wouldn't start now. I'm a coating only spender lol I'm just content with SS + weapon so I'm only spending max 22.5k BC per patch.
This video is peak. I know you probably didn't want to make this but this has been so well put together and appreciated, even AS a former PGR player and usual gacha spender who likes to crunch currency to money ratio. I love the news about pgr speeding up to be side by side with china which is amazing for everyone to ride the hype of updates together, so I look forward to seeing if you continue to crunch more numbers(Hopefully each chonky speed patch is very similar so the math isn't that tedious.)
It was either gonna be us getting the short end of the stick or outrage from CN whales because our packs are 3x value. And we all knew which side Kuro would side with.
1,100$... so 1,600$ CAD. SHEEESH. I used to spend 300$ a month on the game, every payday i was putting in 150$ (CAD, so it was really just 230/Month USD or so) but I quit spending a long time ago. I did only recently come back to PGR as I wanted global to catch up to cn since i started playing. I wasn't expecting them to be this greedy yet non greedy with it. I think the patch only really makes competitive spending impossible. I spent quite a bit on the game but wasn't ever in top of PPC and never cared, a lot of my spending was just monthly passes and coatings but I really wish they were a bit easier on the FOMO, especially for skins. That said, I dont see PGR really dying from this greed, as those who can and will buy everything are putting in so much money that it will just subsidise the spenders (like myself) that quit. I don't want to see global shut down but... I don't think it's looking good at this trajectory and CN patches won't save it at the end as fomo is a double edged sword. Making these choices just feel like kuro doing a quick cash grab at a dying version of the game but we will see i guess.
Thankfully I'm a forever f2p so paying isn't an issue, though when seeing the new missions with goals of using rainbow cards i feel so bad for the paying people seeing the amount needed to be spent
I knew about the synchronization but I didn't knew about the triple rewards in everything ... I just saw my currency rising without understanding, and as a F2P I was think to skip luna to get the next 2, but I remembered that the ice tank will be for free in the dorm, and I just need to save for the new physical tank. So with that much of currency I pulled luna, and I'm stacking up until the 15k BC + construct cards to get the physical tank, because I can get the weapon at any time, I always get the character at just S, the weapon when I can and I get into SS with pain cage only ..... so my impressions of this patch is .... HOLY SHIT!! LOOK AT THAT MUCH ACCOUNT PROGRESS I'M HAVING IN SO MUCH LESS TIME ... I'm having a blast with this patch (and I'm kinda a new player, I've started in the end of the ayla kaleid patch and still going ... almost all teams completes (the worst one is the fire team because I skiped watanabe for shukra and her weapon, but I can get hyperial in the selector, I'm just wondering if I should built him or wait for the Lucia new frame, bc she is a fire attacker but in the site I use for meta I didn't see the change in the Chinese meta team)
[ CORRECTIONS ] 7:31 - The extra Battle Pass packs have been moved. They can be purchased 3 times each on the Battle Pass page. // 14:47 - With 7,500 CUB tickets you are guaranteed one (1) S-Rank CUB.
Did the sped-up schedule impact how you're going to play PGR?
This is an opportunity to surpass whales themselves! They won't spend a dime? Then I shall spend everything and I will be the top in every ranking!
*Proceeds to become homeless*
survived by quitting the game. Thanks for everything Kuro!, I'll still watch the story cutscenes though. This game's story is peak.
i aldy die after spent 100$ my safe stop points.
@@banjokazuya2913 No need to spam twice bro
@@AdmiralHibi too lazy to comment twice bro
WELCOME BACK IVY!!! Greatwork and great video!
Every 6 months I let Ivy out of the basement to do math for me
@@GrayRavenRadio 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@GrayRavenRadio🤣🤣🤣
@@GrayRavenRadio Oh Nice, you're so kind.😂
@@GrayRavenRadio We love math gremlins!
Glad to hear ivy is back
I've always been here! Just not on mic too often.
@@GrayRavenRadio we love hearing you, keep up the good work ✨
The amount of work put into this video is insane!
I'm a new F2P player, but learning about how pricy these upcoming patches can get was very educational and interesting!
(thank you Kuro for giving SSS+ A-ranks to us F2P plebs)
A ranks were always capable to reaching S+ since the beginning.
If done right, it'll take about a month slowly grinding the shards out.
@@Nomimonyou will have to skip out on other grinds that require energy.
@@Nomimonyoyeah, but these ones are SO fast. I got both to SS in 2 days, and I don't even grind
@@shaunnormandybecuz they gave us an event for it if you spend energy gives u reward for dupes of this new A ranks up to SSS rank dupe
@@k-BlazeWW30 duh, I did it so of course I know how it works lol.
It's a cool way to go about getting people playing though, I hope they roll out more of the A ranks this way
I can't even pay on this game, but I will watch all the vid 🤚🏻
О, наш слон 💪
Same
Download PC version you'll be able to pay.
why not?
@@Asendur I think so, because he, like me, is from Russia and therefore our cards are not accepted, and the Xsolla service does not work through the PC client... so either we wait until the crazy war with Ukraine ends, or risk buying pre-paid cards through third-party services and paying through a VPN with the risk of being left with nothing at any stage and the possible risk of being banned from the game.
It is so expensive that I got everything I needed in 30 pulls.
Man, what a time to be F2P...
I wish I had such luck I am creeping ever so slowly to the hard pity with 50/60 and I didn't even have the weapon yet... Gotta love RNG
To be honest when it comes to getting upgrade material I'm having time of my life lol.
I easily managed to resonance luna now I'm planning to build and make my a rank team's stronger I need good lighting and fire team.
Until I get s rank dps for both elements I recommend you all to farm everything you need.
I applaud the amount of work and number crunching you did for this video. This definitely gives a new perspective on the spending for these patches (or at least for luna patch). It look way way worse without all this data compiled in such a friendly manner. I hope this gives back hope to those who have lost it. It sure did for me! Thank you so much for this!
SPEND WISELY
That's the move, use your brain.
brain? what's that? can i eat it? 😃
@@Raikeran No idea what this guy is talking about, all my brain power goes to barking for Vera...
@@Defa_Noob 😂😂😂
@Defa_Noob Finally someone who uses its brain for good.
@@Defa_Noob Good boy
Just kidding, but eh. Vera's dogs is Vera's dogs at the end of the day :v
Absolutely insane video, extremely clear and useful, i imagine that it took a lot of time to do all the calculations so thank you Ivy! That said, unfortunately Kuro has spears towards them on both sides: if they listen to us global and give us more currency and other things CN players will rage and we know that it is not a good idea; if they ignore us and keep che CN side chill they will anger the global community. It's a lose lose situation for them, but it's less risky this way than angering CN imho, seeing what they did with other gachas. Overall i'm kinda happy for the synchronization plan, and i am looking forward to the DMC collab, i hope that in tomorrow's livestream they'll show something!
Something to note, the Encrypted Intel and Top-Secret Intel Supply Packs are not in the shop, you can still get them on the BP screen multiple times. However, only the first purchase increases the levels.
Thanks for letting me know! The test-server must have put the packs in the shop as a weird work around. Honestly, it's probably better to keep all the BPs together since it's confusing having them split up between the BP and Shop screens.
2025 starting with an Ivy video, my year is complete 🙏
on the "double patches all year" thing
the math works out that if every patch after this is a double (no triples), the last double patch is october
from november onwards we are fully caught up
2 months early feels significant
Oh what would i do without this channel. Thanks for the hardwork!
Yeah I just took another part time job. I think it's how I'm gonna survive this synchronization period. Welp, get more job exp too so win win I guess.
IVY HERE, LET'S GOOO! Thanks for the breakdown!
what is scariest with the final price is that it's not even counting tax...here we get 20% extra in tax...
“only madman will do $1091.74”
and they call me a “madman”
Fair enough Leviathan
Sup XD (I aint doing that shit tho)
Poor guy, my condolences
you've been a big help to the game sustainability, I appreciate it!
Yep, claimed Luna oblivion. Now all that’s left is to officially claim her weapon, then teddy’s and Bridget’s pilebunkers next.
Thank you for taking the time to sort all of this out.
i like this how she computing all of them in just a 20 minutes while she calculating and manages all of expenses for a days
Thanks for crunching the numbers my eyes started bleeding😳
Please rest your eyes by looking at the beautiful new Luna model instead 😌
I understand why people mad about this, especially spenders. But I'm a low spender player (well i only bought monthly pass) and I'm really excited because we can catch up to CN Server. So I hope everyone can enjoy it too, and find the solution about this patch (either to spend a lot of rc or spend less rc or become F2P player) :D
very good video with actual data on the topic. all players need to watch this.
With Ivy back, hope to see another podcast again! Enjoying all the content you put out!
Great vid, and nice to see someone actually doing the math for this kind of stuff. This sync patch definitively isn’t as doom and gloom as others make it out to be
Luna is obtained using BC. The other characters are obtained using a currency that at this point many should have in abundance. Besides, those other two are more likely to never be used
@ronaldrodriguez14 Bridget and teddy are actually given for free just by completing milestones in this new patch.
@@christiabayu3325 which are all serum consumption, so you literally need to just play the game normally
@@christiabayu3325sorry if that sounds stupid but is there a way to get them directly or is it intended to use the shards to unlock them. I am a bit worried to waste shards^^"
Don't worry about wasting shards, the game gives you so many Teddy and Bridget shards for free it's impossible to waste them.
The triple monthly BC packs are so worth it. Two passive and one active for $20 so good. Luna is still meta in CN and her play style is one of the most fun to play too.
Thank you for taking the time to really lay out all the mathematical facts on this new era of PGR. I definitely had not originally considered that getting way more of the high value packs could be a reasonable way to bridge some of the gap that comes with getting 3x the paid bundle options slapped down on the table for us. This is far from perfect, but given the situation Kuro has to navigate I think this is about as close as we were going to get with a happy medium.
My hope is that F2P players who are getting the hook-up (as long as they can keep up with daily play and events) will balance out whatever spenders bow out by maybe getting them to feel compelled to toss kuro a little cash here and there down the road.
Either way this was a topic I was doing research on as well and as always GRR has laid out the information in an excellently organized and easy to digest fashion. The global sync is still a daunting change for this community to navigate, but I think a lot of us at least feel a bit less stressed seeing what the options are to try and mitigate the cost of getting multiple patches in a single go.
Thanks as always for the excellent work.
So crazy thing about teddy and ardeo. I already have all the event shards cuz i like to harvest serum bottles when i can especially when waiting for a new patch to come out. I dumped it all into the material event and am only missing the shop shards to hit sss+ i really wasn't expecting this from kuro, but i can definitely say that i'm very happy with how the patch is turning out so far.
I usually spend $200 each patch to SSS S ranks and get all the necessary stuff. Now I spent about $350 for Luna, Weapon, Cub and Alpha skins. I think the bonus miscellaneous stuff are nice from the spending events
Wait really? It's just 200$?
@ for me yep before the sync. Because I saved up a lot too and I buy the monthly stuff and BP and just events BC.
Are yall hiring
Same here bro, $200 a patch or less for me and I can get some S ranks to SSS or close to SSS. Some fun incentives here and there, just to get the juicy fruits up in the uppc trees.
Now spend that much on this patch and Luna would laugh at you for being broke. Sad state of pgr.
@@Nomimonyo once we catch up. It’s gonna be just the ol regular patch they’ll probably see a decrease of dolphins on spending and some might quit just cause but we’ll see an uptake when they release DMC 5 collab characters
wow thanks for the hard work on this video, just by watching i can tell how hard was to do this one
Thank you so much! It was a much bigger undertaking than I thought it would be, haha~ Now I just have to hope Kuro didn't change the bundles between the beta server and public server!
@@GrayRavenRadio you would have to make everything again from scratch haha, even tho it's rewarding for you, i really doubt that there are other channels going throught all the hard work you put on this, so more viewers looking for this kind of information and less channels offering
Thanks for the video, it is definitely a huge help. I would say the accelerated schedule is probably going to hit me the least because I don't go too far beyond getting the character once and their weapon (if I like them, hence not even touching Lamia's banner). However, as someone who saves up BC and stuff for all that, I expect there to be issues even with the tripled returns on dailies and what have you. So, I genuinely appreciate the breakdown on values for packs, especially in a time where it's a bit asinine to expect us to buy three battle passes at once.
YEAHH IVY YOU’RE BACK ❤️
Or not really because you’re always behind the scenes but still-!!
Yeah, seems according to RC value to BC is generally better the cheaper the pack if we assume you’re buying $20 worth of RC.
I started playing a week ago and I’m level 60 now. Thanks for your vids. Very helpful 👍🏾
I'll definitely be watching this later on! Before it even starts, I just know that this'll be a great and well put together video!😀😄🙏👏🙌
Appreciated your time and effort making this. I just started last week and your guy's channel has helped me make a plan to obtain the units i want and if i feel like swiping how to get the best bang for my buck.
I hope everyone an early pull and that coating you want is rerun soon.
Thank you gals for your superb and hard work!
I love the increased speed, great job Kuro.
Super Good Video for planning my spendings. Makes the Integrated Patch feel way less doomed for the amount I normally spend and what my goals are. Thank you very much!!! 🥳🥳❤
this game is blessed for having content creator like you thank you ❤
and they really give you sss+ A rank without having to pull and grind them 2 fragment a day. kuro winning again.
Welcome back IVY!!! Played with you in game a while back, I forgot what mode but gg!
Oh wow what a coincidence! Send me a friend request in-game if you happen to see me again!
@ Will do!
Yey, Ivy is back!
I'm glad you did the math. As very light spender myself even through this integration is too expensive for me, I saw that overall it's more efficient for whales.
The only thing that bugs me out a lot is the fact even through global is catching up with CN, Kuro did nothing to RC top up amount. It's known for years that global get's 15% less RC then CN for the same money, but for some reason no one talks about it.
This is the thing that has to be fixed in the first place.
Thank you for this video Ivy!
This was such an informational video. Thanks.
I think this is the first time I've heard Ivy. I'm too used to hearing Lina. xD
Personally, the accelerated releases doesn't really affect me that much. I'm definitely concerned for the future condensed patches with potential double S ranks and the gacha coatings I'm waiting for, but for the current patch, I'm not too troubled since like Ivy said, we only have Luna to worry about because we can get maxed out Teddy and Bridget for free.
I love PGR because of how F2P friendly it is, which is why I get the monthly pass to show my support for the devs. Didn't know we could get up to 3 right now. I don't think I need to spend more than I already do, but now I kinda want to get a 2nd monthly pass.
My thinking is that this isn't a normal occurrence and it will go away once we catch up to CN, so it might not be a bad idea to capitalize on it and get some extra BC for unforeseen circumstances.
Edit: In terms of spending, I see why people are worried, especially big spenders. I can't relate to whales or people who can SSS every character, but I'm sure they're the worst hit. However, with Kuro's current implementation (pairing an S-rank with A-ranks), I don't think they have much to worry about (again, free A-ranks).
The real issue will be if they decide to pair S-ranks together on the same patch. Assuming we get appropriately increased rewards plus the surplus BC from previous condensed patches, I'm sure most players can get both S-ranks, but spenders, with no extra bonuses on bundles, might be forced to spend twice as much to max them out. This might be an issue worth bringing up in the surveys.
Great coverage on this! The worst part of being a light spender, buying monthly passes and the weapon BPs, is absolutely the extra amount we have to spend now within a patch cycle to maintain the currency we'd normally get without the synchronization. You can tell Kuro Tried to compensate for light and heavy spenders, but it's not that great. Especially considering the multiple back-to-back S-ranks upcoming with Hanying/Wanshi/Lucia, and then Nanami/Ishmael/Lilith/Selena-sure we might be able to get them all to S-rank, though PPC skulls will quickly fall short for SS-ing them 😭
Legit Kuro could fix the worst of the cost issues by making the top-up monthly pass and BP supply packs (or more?) permanently available, rather than being limited to the respective patch cycle. Of course we'd still have to spend a higher amount over time, but we could spend on them when we can afford to spend extra without fretting about spending triple (or double) the usual in one patch cycle to keep up. And if ppl are worried about new players getting access to old passes and such, Kuro could check to see if the account played during that synchronized patch or something. Hopefully people can push for it in surveys and feedback, and that Kuro listens to it; it's the best solution that can be done that Probably won't upset the CN playerbase. Prayge
Buying all of the bundles is insane, lol. I hardly spend in game, but after watching this, I may definitely purchase a few more packs than usual. If ... I am able to. Excited for more content to brush through.
THANKS! I'm so grateful that you released this really helpful video during my pgr badluck crisis...
Got overwhelmed by the packs in the store.
Had to 60/60 Luna.
The 80% weap pity rng kicked me out from having Luna's sig.
Had to recycle my old construct's sigs just to craft Luna's sig, now ploom and Nanamimech are sig-less.
I was already deciding if I should quit PGR entirely, maybe those 3 highest RC to BC value pack could fix my BC economy during this drought. 😟
Quit entirely? Why not take a break while the patches synch? Maybe one patch before the DMC Collab
@@YourProfessional-Gachagamer can't take a break with the state we're in.
1 day of bc lost = 3 days of bc lost.
I'll still continue playing but rolling for everyone's sigs/cubs and pulling gacha skins is now not in my plans.
I'll just cope and recycle the sigs of the out of meta constructs to save further bc.
@@SukasahaSukadi That's a good plan.
Honestly I'm skipping Luna and pretty much Nihil units for now, I'll let my other DPS carry me through these times (although outfits are a bit of a must...)
You shouldn't expect an early S rank on the 60 pull banner, it's super rare (0.5%)
I definitely got very, VERY lucky and got Luna quickly even before i spend anything. But since i already have Luna and just waiting until i get her signature weapon, i may or may not will spend to get Alpha's skin (since i kinda regret not able to get the collab skin at the time). Of course spend responsibly and only get what you really need, which in PGR standard is relatively view with just a S-rank and their signature weapon, the rest you can get on later date
Nice informative video. You should DEFINITELY make another next patch if you can since that one has 2 S-ranks, which further raises the stakes.
19:20 Yeah, thats it for me, more or less.
Also you need to remember about free S rank from blue tickets, it will be reset pretty soon.
Good math, I guess this is applicable more to the monthly spenders since I only spend for costumes.
Hopefully Kuro gets the feedback they need, since there is A LOT of different packs and I can understand these can deter a lot spenders, even if they are getting more than they paid for previously.
This is not a content for me but I watched till the end and I felt your impressive effort and can't imagine doing all of that math hahah
Your awesome 😍
Thanks. I always stop after the 76% discounted packs. Anything with products other than targeted tickets is personally not worth it to me
seeing ivy finally doin a video definitely wasn't in my 2025 bingo card
Light spending has spoiled us in my opinion. What happened to gacha planning, that was a classic thing people used to do and make videos on. Because PGR was generous enough that we could get everything by being a light spender, now its coming to bite them back. Last game I remember that tried to sync up was ToF and boy they didn't even give any extra currency for dailies/weeklies. If we can be wise with our pulls and spend as much as we did, say just 1 monthly pass A per month, I think we can still come out happy by sacrificing some low priority gears(A rank signature weapons/CUBs)
This is far more than what other games offer and I'll gladly be playing to catch up to CN.
spoiled? now you really on some bs bruh 😂
@crimsonphoenix8907 I didn't mean it in a negative way, more like a habit we've developed.
@crimsonphoenix8907
Yes spoiled. You don't need everything. And they were crying about 3 characters a patch when we have A ranks and a couole free S ranks coming up so they don't need to get anymore than they usually do. While we get 3x the currency and free SSS+ A ranks.
Honestly unless you're a skin collector, game is more than fair enough.
I mean, I agree in the fact that the solutions is just to proritize the S rank characters and their signature weapons and with the extra rewards will be easy (I am a low spender too, In fact I spend more in skins than in the actual characters XD)... but spoiled?
Do you know how much an entire normal game cost? like... I don't know... f@cking Elden Ring with its DLC? I am sure you can get like 10 Elden Rings+DLC with the money you have spend in all your S ranks throught a year playing PGR (and mark my word Elden Ring is an absolute awesome game) I use ER as an example of how you can buy at least 1 AAA game full price, hours and hours of gameplay, with the money you could spend in one miserable copy of one character in PGR (and let me stress the word COULD, because I know how to save BC cards too).
But the point is that I don't feel spoiled at all, I just feel that PGR abuses much less of its Gacha addict players than other games and in fact if you want to upgrade a character in PGR with gacha summons, it will cost you as much or even more than in other games, like those from Hoyoverse, I am sure you would need much more than 6 or 8 copies of a S rank character to get it to SSS in PGR, not even talking about SSS+.
Personally, the only reason why I don't play Wuwa is because I feel like Kuro imitated the gacha system from other more expensive gachas like Genshin (it is not as expensive, but it is still halfway there) and I find it unacceptable. The day PGR's gacha stops being as f2p and low spender friendly as it is, that is the they I will left the game, despite the fact that PGR's story is gold and I love the characters a lot, but whatever...
@@siege_sensei Corporate bootlicking will not be tolerated. Micro transactions are killing games
Good to see you again Ivy! ☺
Always have been a "F2P" (i am not going to talk about getting $30 worth of RC to support both the empyrea skins... on both EN and CN accounts...)
Personally, the game is still the very same. Even though i *WAS* planning to become a consistent low spender this year onward, and that means synchronization ruined that long term planning, it technically will affect only the leaderboards, as Gen3 affix mechanics are still not *as* important as Gen2 were for the quality of life. Plus... personally speaking, i'm all for re-experiencing the hype bossfights/music that lays in wait this year for EN. It's absolutely stunning!
Also nice to see you back Ivy, it has been a while since you appeared here
Nice seeing Ivy back😊
I don't play PGR anymore, but I love your videos. Good luck on the pulls to everybody and keep up the quality content!
It's crazy to think my first SSS+ characters after a year of playing are going to be new characters given to me for free lol.
Thanks for covering this, super glad to hear from you again. Coating review 2 when?!
A large part of the frustration at this point is about the devs just refusing to address anything. Most people that were already upset about the issue are going to open the game today to a thousand dollars of packs and get overwhelmed.
I was told by numerous people that at least one of the spending event rewards were retroactive. And that we would be getting a Guild Expedition. Both of which were false. Im in the number 1 NA guild rn and thats just a huge portion of materials just gone...hopefully next version.
So no, i won't be spending as much. I have to vote with my wallet if my word means anything. Im going to take advantage of my blue card selectors and continue to play and help my cadets.
Goodluck on Luna. Hyped for Nanami still, so i have that to hold on to.
Such a good video! Instant sub!
Just did a full 6k serum speed run, unlocked full Epitaph Wata, Obv Luna, Bridget. Only missing teddy and Luna's weapon + cub
You're amazing, thank you for this video
How to survive?
1. Play along with devs.
2. Go f2p or quit.
I think this is something easy to achieve once you made up your mind.
I'm currently F2P right now, so the patch acceleration didn't affect me as much. Just pulled for Luna, used the free weapon selector I got from topup rewards, and called it a day.
Might have to skip Hanying for Lucia's new frame though
How do you get the weapon selector?
@@Generalofthexianzhoualliance u get 1 for swiping as a reward
Love having Ivy back for a video!
I don't know if the incentive events and the double A rank characters were a strategic move, but it will be interesting to see if it's enough to see quitters come back and ex-spenders to spend again. I also wonder how the double S rank patches will be handled, if differently at all.
The only thing i did was buy rainbow cards for 45 euros so i could get the Luna Oblivion skin and pulled her. I will still keep on playing because i love the game.
its the best.. you can get so much stuff.. and Luna Oblivion, her sig and her cub is free.. in the Spenders Voucher shop.. they added her in the selectors lols.. this is the BEST patch..
The battle pass gives 15k vouchers, that's 18 shards, plus the other 10 shards to a total of 28 shards, that is pretty much a copy of a character, and 2500bc on top of that.
I'm going f2p until sync is complete.
I have to admit, the danganronpa investigation music was very fitting at 17:05 lmao. Personally I'm just going to adjust my spending but not quitting or anything. Still getting all the skins which is going to burn though.
Very well formatted video. I usually only get the monthly pass, and the 2 BPs each patch. I'll definitely get the monthly passes but I'm less sure about the BPs. Shame I also want the 2 coatings. Hard to justify spending 776 RC for the main value passes + coatings in a single patch. I'll sleep on it.
came back from octobers patch and got smacked with events and cutscenes holy
Who do you think I should get from the the beginner banner?
Watanabe: I have the new Luna and a good fire team
Lamia: I could her her signature weapon by a chance. My dark team isn’t that reliable
watanabe bc he`s in two meta teams, but they are both meta and a good pick
Personal pick based on your circumstances: Lamia, it would be a while for her to be replace as a dark Attacker
Watanabe has a replacement in the form of SSS+ Bridgette(Free) but if you have him he's good!
Kudos to these peeps for explaining this out. Its just so confusing and a hard patch for small spenders.
Glad I waited till the new patch before spending for the spending event,
This cuts my spending but it still sucks since we lose future foresight benefit and we are seeing characters get shelfed after a year or year n a half- which will be sped up with the sync.
14:45 you can only pull the cub once since the hard pity is 20 not 10
Oh heck, you're right! I'll put a correction in the pinned comment. Thanks!
I was always buying monthly subscription and plan on continuing to do so. If I wouldn't be able to get all characters so be it.
Got 20k cards saved after Qu, so Luna is guaranteed. Gonna see how the event drops work nd prepare for next update
Thanks for the math Ivy, I'm probably just gonna nab the the cw coating and dip, its too fine to skip.
Haven't spend anything to buy packs before and wouldn't start now. I'm a coating only spender lol
I'm just content with SS + weapon so I'm only spending max 22.5k BC per patch.
0:40 and thank you for those efforts :D.
This video is peak. I know you probably didn't want to make this but this has been so well put together and appreciated, even AS a former PGR player and usual gacha spender who likes to crunch currency to money ratio. I love the news about pgr speeding up to be side by side with china which is amazing for everyone to ride the hype of updates together, so I look forward to seeing if you continue to crunch more numbers(Hopefully each chonky speed patch is very similar so the math isn't that tedious.)
It was either gonna be us getting the short end of the stick or outrage from CN whales because our packs are 3x value. And we all knew which side Kuro would side with.
These patches so far feel like I can spend less and get more as a low investor
1,100$... so 1,600$ CAD. SHEEESH. I used to spend 300$ a month on the game, every payday i was putting in 150$ (CAD, so it was really just 230/Month USD or so) but I quit spending a long time ago. I did only recently come back to PGR as I wanted global to catch up to cn since i started playing. I wasn't expecting them to be this greedy yet non greedy with it. I think the patch only really makes competitive spending impossible. I spent quite a bit on the game but wasn't ever in top of PPC and never cared, a lot of my spending was just monthly passes and coatings but I really wish they were a bit easier on the FOMO, especially for skins. That said, I dont see PGR really dying from this greed, as those who can and will buy everything are putting in so much money that it will just subsidise the spenders (like myself) that quit.
I don't want to see global shut down but... I don't think it's looking good at this trajectory and CN patches won't save it at the end as fomo is a double edged sword. Making these choices just feel like kuro doing a quick cash grab at a dying version of the game but we will see i guess.
Thankfully I'm a forever f2p so paying isn't an issue, though when seeing the new missions with goals of using rainbow cards i feel so bad for the paying people seeing the amount needed to be spent
I knew about the synchronization but I didn't knew about the triple rewards in everything ... I just saw my currency rising without understanding, and as a F2P I was think to skip luna to get the next 2, but I remembered that the ice tank will be for free in the dorm, and I just need to save for the new physical tank. So with that much of currency I pulled luna, and I'm stacking up until the 15k BC + construct cards to get the physical tank, because I can get the weapon at any time, I always get the character at just S, the weapon when I can and I get into SS with pain cage only ..... so my impressions of this patch is .... HOLY SHIT!! LOOK AT THAT MUCH ACCOUNT PROGRESS I'M HAVING IN SO MUCH LESS TIME ... I'm having a blast with this patch (and I'm kinda a new player, I've started in the end of the ayla kaleid patch and still going ... almost all teams completes (the worst one is the fire team because I skiped watanabe for shukra and her weapon, but I can get hyperial in the selector, I'm just wondering if I should built him or wait for the Lucia new frame, bc she is a fire attacker but in the site I use for meta I didn't see the change in the Chinese meta team)
OMG, this video is extremely helpful and transparent, thank you so much. The spending event is nice to be honest
Smh, we didn't even get three times the maintenance compensation only once 😔
Ayooo IVY is back🎉
Thank you for the video. You sound tired, i hope you guys are alright. I'll just stick with my 1 monthly and skip a few S ranks to save for weapons.
Doing good! Just wiped out from doing so much MATH
Thanks for making this video, now i want to spend my 30 RC 😂 Management is life
We got another Ivy video before GTA6. Life is good 😉
Something EVERYONE should know: i got teddy and Bridget during my pulls for luna. I got them both to ss lol
I didn't even think about how players can get Teddy and Bridget on the Luna banner! Congrats, you are even closer to SSS+ for those two!
Spend 6k serum in PHANTOM MOON EVENT to get those two at SSS+
yay would love to see more of the green one too
Loveeeee the mass effect bgm ❤
You forgot one small detail, yes this patch is one s rank and 2 a ranks but the next is gonna be 2 s ranks