In America right now like he said used bikes are crazy, they loose atleast 50% of the retail price right after you buy it, I see all kinds of nice bikes for real cheap on Facebook marketplace
It’s crazy where the market is. I can’t believe I bought alloy bike for 3500 in 2021 when only three years later someone can get a better equipped carbon bike for half of that
Never buy a carbon bike second hand. Although there are a number of decent trustworthy sellers. Most carbon framed bikes I looked at have enough questionable surface damage to sink the deal, especially with no factory warranty. In my personal bike hunting, I have never seen a top-notch condition carbon frame for more than a grand off the retail price even after a few years of purchase. All that have been listed for 50% percent or more off the msrp price have had questionable issues.
I pulled at least four dents out of my Trail Wide rear rim, I even bought a Wolf Tooth tool just for doing that. It keeps on trucking. No air loss. Bike looks sweet but that front brake hose looks like it'll rub the head tube! It's criminal where the used market is at right now but it's a buyers market and someone is getting a killer deal right there!
I straightened a few rims pretty well using a heat gun and rubber mallet. Felt like the rim wanted to go back. Doesn’t require much heat to get the aluminum a little more pliable
I pulled at least four dents out of my Trail Wide rear rim, I even bought a Wolf Tooth tool just for doing that. Bike looks sweet but that front brake hose looks like it'll rub the head tube! It's criminal where the used market is at right now but it's a buyers market and someone is getting a killer deal right there!
damn, the bike is so clean. i’d definitely take the bike rn if I haven’t got my current bike. Should’ve been patient . but shout out to u making all the videos despite the broken thumb
I had a similar crash to you front wheel washed out but instead of my front wheel hitting a tree my body hit it, and some rock, and I think a bridge. Broke half my ribs lol sucks being out of commission peak riding season. I feel your pain. literally.
I keep a close eye on the market in the pnw and I think you’re pretty close on price. Probably end up with 15-16. Which is a great deal. Someone will get a solid bike. With new bikes being so cheap right now it’s really driven down the used. Couple that with the slow economy and it’s tough. Personally think we’ll see some extra crazy deals new and used come November
For the rim ding, I would either use a blunt chisel to go in the bead slot for accuracy or a 2 by 4 piece of wood across the affected are and hammer against the wood block until it is straight, when I did this for my rear rim it left little to no evidence
I was just in the USA last week and I cant believe how expensive some food is compared to Canada now factoring in exchange rate since i visited last in 2019.
Yeah food is super expensive! I haven't been to a sit down restaurant in ages. Way too expensive. Although, I do see pictures of food in Canada has some expensive food too.
Just to let everyone know bentonville marketplace is about 2 times worse than everywhere else. I’m from Wisconsin and I was looking around at deals around there because we traveled there and there were deals that wouldn’t even last an hour up here. That explains why he’s selling so cheap.
Yeah I would not try it Evan bending it back to where it was before running the risk of breaking part of the rim, just not worth taking, and am loving this channel more.
@6:30 Where able to integrate the dropper lever as well if so what lever qas compatible I just recently found out I could do this on mine looks so much better
Depends on your brakes. The SRAM levers have that option. I purchased two SRAM ultimate kits and it came with the adapters. You can also do it with some higher level Shimano brakes. I bought a Wolftooth adapter for Shimano lever to SRAM shifter and that was pretty pricey
@@EvansMTBSaga at the end of it, are you going to release the numbers? I'm curious to see how many tickets sold, their fee, and if it was profitable, I love me a good raffle
What cleaning spray do you use? Looking for something I can keep in the car. I bought some raffle tickets which I don't normally do but I wanted to support the channel, good luck to everyone! The new stumpy looks awesome!
Thanks for the support Wes! I received a bottle of Pellicare cleaning spray, but I ran out. So I added some dish soap and water in the bottle and thats what I use 😂
Evan i would have bought that bike in a heart beat. Dont list it for $1800 you shouldn't have said that because thats what people are now aiming for unless you get a bid war lol. $2200 is a fair price. I'd buy it myself but i bought the new 2024 YT jeffsy core 3. I like the new geo compared to the previous model. But still a sick bike. Id auction the YT too. Lol
170s are fine for me. I raced BMX and trained on 180mm cranks for many years. So my neurologic pathway for pedaling has been developed. So sometimes with 165s, my muscles will still be pushing down the pedal when the upstroke starts and it hurts for a second 😂
@@EvansMTBSaga Oh now it makes sense! I was wondering why it just hanging there so precariously and not rolling away! And on second view I can see it clearly. I had the video on low resolution to save data!
Hey Evan, recently i have been interested in mountain biking and am looking to get my first hard tail. I am looking at a specialized rockhopper elite. Just wondering if that was a good pick for the price and just wanted to say thanks for inspiring me and i have come a long ways. Thanks!!!
Crazy tough to sell in this market. I’m selling my stumpy evo expert I rode a total of 20 miles lol. I paid 6k and now I’m having trouble selling even though I’m well under the current new price of 4600. I’d put in for the raffle but unsure about s4 as I’ve always ridden s5. Currently looking for something that pedals better and I’ve heard from a few locals that the 15 pedals better than even the regular stumpy. If I can’t sell my Evo then I’ll build mine up with the same frame you’re selling. If s4 isn’t too small I’ll be in the raffle lol. Do you find it easy to sell in the bentonville area? I’m in the Philly area and the market is DEAD.
Wow, that awesome bike for just 800? In my country it would cost at least 2k. I would buy it from you but my parent dont allow me to buy bikes from other countries 😢
What Evan meant was that he got the 165 cranks because everyone now wants shorter cranks. But for Evan, 165 cranks don't suit him and likes his cranks longer.
@@EvansMTBSaga I'm not, but I totally understand your desire to sell it locally and not ship. If it doesn't sell and you become willing to ship, I'd definitely buy it.
Nice bike, but for $1800 just a Fox 36 with Grip Damper seems a bit "cheap" to me (the Performance Elite with Grip2 would have been more appropriate). In Germany you can get a carbon (enduro/trail) bike with fox factory/Rs Ultimate for that price.
Yeah exactly. Im not sure where you'd find a bike with fox elite fork. And all the components. $1800 is actually a steel. Evan should list it for $2200 as people like to low ball. I would pay at least $2100 for that bike.
I dont understand why there are 10k$ bikes on the market, what makes the bike 10K? just a bicycle with low tech compared to an motorcycle for the same amount of cash. And yes, I am a both a bicyclist and a motorbiker.
I'd recommend demoing an expensive bike when you get a chance. A $10k bike will feel a lot different than an $1800 bike. As for profit margins, well thats up to the market and what consumers will spend
Volume is the biggest factor IMO. A motorcycle brand might sell millions of motorcycles every year, when you add up all their models (Honda sold 18.7 million last year). These MTB manufacturers might sell a couple thousand, depending on the brand. The smaller brands might sell a few hundred. The more you make of something, the cheaper each piece is. Especially when you own the factories for each piece. You have vertical integration, and control the whole process. An expensive MTB is utilising components from much smaller companies, with much less volume, and they’re top of the line parts, so the luxury tax is also a factor. Each single component is expensive. The volume is small. And profit needs to be made. Marketing needs to be done. Testing needs to be done. Then you need to ship them worldwide, and create a support network of some kind. It all adds up.
@@MarioGoatse actually not, bicycles sell higher volumes than motorcycles. Motorcycle brands these days are happy to sell like double figures of a bike model in an european country. Just because one brand like honda sells millions of bikes where most of them are cheap bikes in asia dont really carry the weight in our discussion.
@@Pillokun We’re talking about YT here. They sell a few thousand every year. They don’t make any of the comments except the frame. You can’t compare the entire bicycle industry to single boutique brands. Besides a cheap bicycle is $250 if you want to compare mass volume cheap products. It’s like asking why an exhaust from a boutique company for a Ducati can be $5000 when “brands in Asia make them for $200”. Or why is a Ferrari $900,000 when a Ford is $60,000.
That bike is super sweet and a steal at $1,800. It's going to make someone very happy. 🤘🏻🔥
Man considering parts you put on bike, it’s almost crime to sell it for less than 2500$, at least that is how much it would have cost where I live.
Yeah I agree, $1800 is low. $2200-$2300 is fair.
No way would it sell for that in Colorado
The used bike market is trash right now. He will probably struggle to sell it- even with a price that good.
That bike with those parts would cost about 3500 dollars here in norway on the used market. 1800 dollars is a steal!
Yup same herebin Sweden
In America right now like he said used bikes are crazy, they loose atleast 50% of the retail price right after you buy it, I see all kinds of nice bikes for real cheap on Facebook marketplace
It’s crazy where the market is. I can’t believe I bought alloy bike for 3500 in 2021 when only three years later someone can get a better equipped carbon bike for half of that
Oh I know right. People were going crazy swiping their credit cards on an $8000 bike with a 18 month wait list too 😂
Never buy a carbon bike second hand. Although there are a number of decent trustworthy sellers. Most carbon framed bikes I looked at have enough questionable surface damage to sink the deal, especially with no factory warranty.
In my personal bike hunting, I have never seen a top-notch condition carbon frame for more than a grand off the retail price even after a few years of purchase. All that have been listed for 50% percent or more off the msrp price have had questionable issues.
My Ibis Ripmo was bought for $9k, 6 months later I bought it for $4.3k, 1yr later they're selling in my area for $3.5k. Absolutely wild
I pulled at least four dents out of my Trail Wide rear rim, I even bought a Wolf Tooth tool just for doing that. It keeps on trucking. No air loss. Bike looks sweet but that front brake hose looks like it'll rub the head tube! It's criminal where the used market is at right now but it's a buyers market and someone is getting a killer deal right there!
Wow it would come in clutch if i lived close to Evan i would get a new bike everyday with these killer deals😂
this video was really nice hope to see more in the future
I straightened a few rims pretty well using a heat gun and rubber mallet. Felt like the rim wanted to go back. Doesn’t require much heat to get the aluminum a little more pliable
I pulled at least four dents out of my Trail Wide rear rim, I even bought a Wolf Tooth tool just for doing that. Bike looks sweet but that front brake hose looks like it'll rub the head tube! It's criminal where the used market is at right now but it's a buyers market and someone is getting a killer deal right there!
damn, the bike is so clean. i’d definitely take the bike rn if I haven’t got my current bike. Should’ve been patient . but shout out to u making all the videos despite the broken thumb
Yeah I think it'll sell super fast! I sold the grey T6 in a day. It makes me pumped to sell a bike quickly and the buyer gets a good deal
I had a similar crash to you front wheel washed out but instead of my front wheel hitting a tree my body hit it, and some rock, and I think a bridge. Broke half my ribs lol sucks being out of commission peak riding season. I feel your pain. literally.
I used to watch Evan all the time until I broke my arm Mountain biking and just stopped but now that I am back on my bike Evan has found me again.
What's up dude! Glad you're back. I'm broke off at the moment, no ridng for almost 2 months now
I keep a close eye on the market in the pnw and I think you’re pretty close on price. Probably end up with 15-16. Which is a great deal. Someone will get a solid bike. With new bikes being so cheap right now it’s really driven down the used. Couple that with the slow economy and it’s tough. Personally think we’ll see some extra crazy deals new and used come November
Bike is nice. Hope your injury is healing well. Greetings from the Netherlands.
Thank you Benjamin!!
For the rim ding, I would either use a blunt chisel to go in the bead slot for accuracy or a 2 by 4 piece of wood across the affected are and hammer against the wood block until it is straight, when I did this for my rear rim it left little to no evidence
I bought my bike for 5,400, and a few months later it went on sale for 3,400 😭 also that BOA cast is sick
One thing i would say for sure when fixing bent rims is to tape the painted surface before putting a wrench on it
That is a good idea. I was using a spanner to leverage the crescent wrench, and it still got marked up. So tape would've been perfect
Evan man! u have come so far since i started watching u on ur poylgon keep it up bro ur amazing 🎉
Thanks Connor! Its been a fun journey
always cool to see more bike builds!
I was just in the USA last week and I cant believe how expensive some food is compared to Canada now factoring in exchange rate since i visited last in 2019.
Yeah food is super expensive! I haven't been to a sit down restaurant in ages. Way too expensive. Although, I do see pictures of food in Canada has some expensive food too.
@EvansMTBSaga yeah, the inflation sucks, we had to eat out because we drove down in a car, was painful 🤣 Goodluck with the Jeffsy sale
This wolftooth lever has a dent removal tool works great it’s what you need
woah really! I'll check that out. Thansk dude
Just to let everyone know bentonville marketplace is about 2 times worse than everywhere else. I’m from Wisconsin and I was looking around at deals around there because we traveled there and there were deals that wouldn’t even last an hour up here. That explains why he’s selling so cheap.
Those deals must get swooped up quickly cuz I usually see people trying to sell their 2019 for $3500 haha
@@EvansMTBSaga I could have brought an entire truck load back to Wisconsin and sold every single one for 500-1000 what I would have paid.
$1800 is a steal for this build. 😮
great bike, but i feel like you aren't doing the bike justice
evan built a "dream bike" level for a lot of people. i'm definitely sure it should be more than 1,800 dollars
Brother if you were a small frame bike I'd be in. What I'm most curious about is your thumb though. How much longer before you're back to normal?
New Tires and Tuned .... 2000 $ Is A Deal
Yeah I would not try it Evan bending it back to where it was before running the risk of breaking part of the rim, just not worth taking, and am loving this channel more.
Thanks Daniel! I've been enjoying making the more simpler videos this month and just having fun building the bikes
Amazing work.
@6:30 Where able to integrate the dropper lever as well if so what lever qas compatible
I just recently found out I could do this on mine looks so much better
Depends on your brakes. The SRAM levers have that option. I purchased two SRAM ultimate kits and it came with the adapters. You can also do it with some higher level Shimano brakes. I bought a Wolftooth adapter for Shimano lever to SRAM shifter and that was pretty pricey
If the bike doesn’t sell and you consider shipping I’ll be more than happy to take off your hands! Please let me know!
It sold so fast! Within 2 hours. Thanks for watching and commenting though dude
I can't buy it because I'm going to win this S works!!
I like your attitude!
@@EvansMTBSaga at the end of it, are you going to release the numbers? I'm curious to see how many tickets sold, their fee, and if it was profitable, I love me a good raffle
That bike is so cool! I wish i could by it 😂
What cleaning spray do you use? Looking for something I can keep in the car.
I bought some raffle tickets which I don't normally do but I wanted to support the channel, good luck to everyone! The new stumpy looks awesome!
Thanks for the support Wes! I received a bottle of Pellicare cleaning spray, but I ran out. So I added some dish soap and water in the bottle and thats what I use 😂
Evan i would have bought that bike in a heart beat. Dont list it for $1800 you shouldn't have said that because thats what people are now aiming for unless you get a bid war lol.
$2200 is a fair price.
I'd buy it myself but i bought the new 2024 YT jeffsy core 3. I like the new geo compared to the previous model.
But still a sick bike. Id auction the YT too. Lol
Haha well good news is that it's sold already and the new owner is riding it right now. I'm glad to give good deals
If not 165’s, what do you prefer and why?
170s are fine for me. I raced BMX and trained on 180mm cranks for many years. So my neurologic pathway for pedaling has been developed. So sometimes with 165s, my muscles will still be pushing down the pedal when the upstroke starts and it hurts for a second 😂
I wish I was local, I’d buy that in a heartbeat
Oh man it was sold within 2 hours of posting the video! It was crazy
1:06 That head tube bearing is hanging on for dear life, just waiting to hit the ground and roll under a shelf.
Haha it was zip tied
@@EvansMTBSaga Oh now it makes sense! I was wondering why it just hanging there so precariously and not rolling away! And on second view I can see it clearly. I had the video on low resolution to save data!
Hey Evan, recently i have been interested in mountain biking and am looking to get my first hard tail. I am looking at a specialized rockhopper elite. Just wondering if that was a good pick for the price and just wanted to say thanks for inspiring me and i have come a long ways. Thanks!!!
Oh ya, my name is Evan too.
Hey Evan! That bike looks pretty sweet. Its missing a dropper post, so keep that in mind. Everything else on the bike looks great though
Crazy tough to sell in this market. I’m selling my stumpy evo expert I rode a total of 20 miles lol. I paid 6k and now I’m having trouble selling even though I’m well under the current new price of 4600.
I’d put in for the raffle but unsure about s4 as I’ve always ridden s5. Currently looking for something that pedals better and I’ve heard from a few locals that the 15 pedals better than even the regular stumpy. If I can’t sell my Evo then I’ll build mine up with the same frame you’re selling. If s4 isn’t too small I’ll be in the raffle lol. Do you find it easy to sell in the bentonville area? I’m in the Philly area and the market is DEAD.
Yeah the market is bad! I'd rather sell fast then let it linger for months. Have you posted yours to Pinkbike?
@@EvansMTBSaga yep it’s up there!! Fb Marketplace as well!
What's the name of the orange thing you use to keep the cockpit and forks straight?
It's called a Handlebar Holder tool. I got it on clearance for like $9. I dig it
Might have to watch this in 2x speed to get through and comment fast lol, jk hopefully its a gud vid
Why you not like the 165 cranks?
You dont like 165s on this bike but on the sisku d7 you did?
165s helped the seat clearance for sure. But yeah I don't like them cuz pedaling feels weird
where can i buy it
Shorter crank equals less torque because of the length
Dam. I would have given you $1,500 for just the frame and the gx components. Nothing else I need or want. Glws
Wow, that awesome bike for just 800? In my country it would cost at least 2k. I would buy it from you but my parent dont allow me to buy bikes from other countries 😢
Ah it's $1800. Yeah shipping to another country is expensive!
@@EvansMTBSagadon't sell for $1800 bud. $2200 is a fair price.
So weird that crappy Chinese catalog wheels with good marketing aren’t holding up.
That is a sweet bike for $1,800.
Agreed! I sold it this morning!
Very cool bike
What do you mean about the 165 cranks I have 175s & wondering about getting shorter ones
What Evan meant was that he got the 165 cranks because everyone now wants shorter cranks.
But for Evan, 165 cranks don't suit him and likes his cranks longer.
@@gaddobronx6740 ok
One sec let me *downgrade* to a Renthal cockpit, quad piston SRAM brakes, and Fox suspension real quick 😅
haha have you seen the video I made with this bike before? It was a crazy build
Evan, what did you do to your thumb? Did you have surgery?
Tore a ligament in a crash when filming the High Low finale. Been off the bike since July 5th :(
I'd like to buy it if it's available 😊
I had someone buy it already after watching the video! Thanks for watching dude!!
bro that is shuch a good deal
Get a downhill for your next video
Will you ship the stumpy to the uk?
Bike is around $2500-$3000
What size is it? Local to the area but not sure if it will fit
Large 👍
@@EvansMTBSaga Great, just sent you an email
@@EvansMTBSaga if he falls through i'm 4 hours away and i'll take it. Heck I have friends down there right now and they can grab it for me haha.
I WILL BUY THAT FROM YOU
Brooo that's my dream bike 😅
I would like to buy it
Are you close to NWA?
@@EvansMTBSagaNot close. I listened to all their albums as a kid. Do I really need to know them? That’s a hell of a reference for a bike sale.
@@EvansMTBSaga I'm not, but I totally understand your desire to sell it locally and not ship. If it doesn't sell and you become willing to ship, I'd definitely buy it.
@@MarioGoatse😂that was fantastic
I don't s👀 Thomson, XT, or any Titanium 😳
Please gift me one bike please
What size frame is it
My size is S3 or medium. Too big for me. This bike is a large 😊
Man that spec bike is selling for $3500 😂
I live in hot springs but I ride a size small 😢
By now I’d say most the industries that boomed during covid are not doing well right now. Glad I didn’t buy a bike during covid
I want it
This thing still available?
Nope sorry! Sold super fast
Bro I wanna buy this
Its a dialed bike! I sold it this morning already!
@@EvansMTBSaganooo I wanted it so bad, well hope they enjoy it
maaaan i just bought a siskiu t8 a week ago for $1400 I'm like 2 hours away from you I should've waited
Dang thats a pretty good deal for a T8 though!
Hello i want to get into mtb riding but dont know what to look for in a 2nd hand mtb can you pls make a video what to look at. ❤
1st non member
Nice I'm second lol
@@ThatBeefyBoi nice I'm third lol
@@ThatBeefyBoi 😘
Hi
Nice bike, but for $1800 just a Fox 36 with Grip Damper seems a bit "cheap" to me (the Performance Elite with Grip2 would have been more appropriate). In Germany you can get a carbon (enduro/trail) bike with fox factory/Rs Ultimate for that price.
At least in America you'd be hard pressed to find a used carbon bike in general let alone with pretty decent fox suspension and sram gx.
its a carbon yt frame with good wheels, brakes, and drivetrain i would buy it in a heartbeat even for 2400$
Yeah exactly. Im not sure where you'd find a bike with fox elite fork. And all the components.
$1800 is actually a steel. Evan should list it for $2200 as people like to low ball. I would pay at least $2100 for that bike.
Syyyyicccckkkk
Brother can you please sel it to me cause in my country it cost about a million
Where is raffle bike on the site??? This is BS
raffall.com/363102/enter-raffle-to-win-s-works-stumjumper-15-custom-build-hosted-by-evan-steinberg
Since you had difficulty finding it, lemme give you a promo code for some extra tickets. If you're interested, use code "FINALWEEK"
@@EvansMTBSaga thank you sir! Your channel is interesting!
My 16y.o. opinion on your rim dent fix is you dould have heated it first and then straighten it .
so he just stole all the good stuff and got rid of the frame for 1800 with beat up equipment
haha the forks and rear shock were new take off! The buyer is happy with it
pls ccan you give me please mtb i dont have one pllease Evans
GX over Deore, yikes...
GX is wayyyyy better than Deore
@@EvansMTBSaga I don't agree but I respect your opinion. Great video, by the way! I love these bike upgrade/repair videos. Keep 'em coming!
I have both. Deore is so good. GX is OK just not as nice as Deore.
@@EvansMTBSaga Deore with an XT shifter is lovely! Also the jump to the biggest cog on GX or above is too big for my liking.
Trail bike without tire inserts? No way!
Idk if you caught it, but I took out cush core in the rear. Those things are expensive 😂
Imagine needing cuchcore that badly
@@EvansMTBSaga Here in Brazil, I use one brand called Absolute. Search for 'absolute protetor de aro'. Is a pink one. Very light and cheap.
That’s a two thousand dollar bike all day
I dont understand why there are 10k$ bikes on the market, what makes the bike 10K? just a bicycle with low tech compared to an motorcycle for the same amount of cash. And yes, I am a both a bicyclist and a motorbiker.
I'd recommend demoing an expensive bike when you get a chance. A $10k bike will feel a lot different than an $1800 bike. As for profit margins, well thats up to the market and what consumers will spend
Volume is the biggest factor IMO. A motorcycle brand might sell millions of motorcycles every year, when you add up all their models (Honda sold 18.7 million last year). These MTB manufacturers might sell a couple thousand, depending on the brand. The smaller brands might sell a few hundred. The more you make of something, the cheaper each piece is. Especially when you own the factories for each piece. You have vertical integration, and control the whole process. An expensive MTB is utilising components from much smaller companies, with much less volume, and they’re top of the line parts, so the luxury tax is also a factor. Each single component is expensive. The volume is small. And profit needs to be made. Marketing needs to be done. Testing needs to be done. Then you need to ship them worldwide, and create a support network of some kind. It all adds up.
@@MarioGoatse actually not, bicycles sell higher volumes than motorcycles. Motorcycle brands these days are happy to sell like double figures of a bike model in an european country. Just because one brand like honda sells millions of bikes where most of them are cheap bikes in asia dont really carry the weight in our discussion.
@@Pillokun We’re talking about YT here. They sell a few thousand every year. They don’t make any of the comments except the frame. You can’t compare the entire bicycle industry to single boutique brands. Besides a cheap bicycle is $250 if you want to compare mass volume cheap products. It’s like asking why an exhaust from a boutique company for a Ducati can be $5000 when “brands in Asia make them for $200”. Or why is a Ferrari $900,000 when a Ford is $60,000.
Why don't you like 165 cranks?