Peu importe l'âge et les traces d'usure dans la voix de Siepi. Il est tout simplement titanesque encore. Bien des jeunes basse aujourd'hui propulsées sur les scènes internationales ne lui arrivent pas à la cheville. De surcroît, Martinucci, tristement négligé au disque, reste un des rares Radamès plausible que j'ai pu entendre à la scène. En résumé : deux grandes voix italiennes, de deux générations différentes et pourtant idéalement associées. Je ne regrette qu'une chose : n'avoir pu faire le voyage à l'époque pour entendre cela "in vivo" ... !
I heard both Siepi and Ghaiurov on stage. Comparisons are odious. As I posted somewhere else about Tozzi. There have only been about 10 bass stars in opera since the begining of the twentieth century. I don't know about Lablache, Fischer or Galli (bass stars of the ottocento). Siepi's voice was simply amazing. It was so big and so easy. Ghiarov's voice when I first heard him was also amazing - huge and commanding.
I've always read the same about Ghiaurov, but honestly I've never heard it, not with the same marvel as you say. On the other hand, Christoff was commanding and glorious!
you are making comparisions where there is none, Christoff has the forever presence and operatic theater, listen to his Philipp the II by Karajan and other tragic works, Siepi is another world has darker sonorous bass I heard both alive in the same Don Carlos, my vote is for Christoff and love Siepi in another roles I am glad to know we have such a rich spectra
Odd that everyone comments about Siepi and none about Martinucci. I heard Martinucci live at SF Opera in Turandot. He was the real thing. A real Italian drammatic tenor in the Del Monaco - Corelli tradition. I thought he was more impressive in the theater than either Giacomini or Bartolini.
Patrick Boyle commenting 11 years later, but I was also at that SF Turandot. Martinucci was superb in that performance. As Patrick says, a real Italian dramatic tenor.
I don't know about a secluded life - I think he is married and lives near Atlanta (not sure about this) I wrote him a letter via the Met a few years back and they told me they would forward it to him. I hope they did! He's was a wonderful singer.
Of course if those guys ever wore those outfits in Egypt they would immediately die of heat prostration. Poor singers have to endure the 'genius' of the set designers, costumers and stage directors. Yet you'll notice that only the singers attract an audience. Who watches opera on UA-cam for anything else but the singers. BTW don't interpret anything good I said about Martinucci as meaning I don't have anything but the greatest respect for Siepi.
Mine too! In the vocal department Siepi wins hands down, the richness and legato are peerless. Ghiaurov could often sound scarier and this was extremely effective in some roles. And I'm not sure about this but think that Ghiaurov had the more powerful voice. But I wish I'd seen either of them live.
Does anyone know how I could get in touch with him? I read he is in Florida but living a sort of secluded life. Is that true? So many young people revere him, it would be terrible if we can not even send him a letter to simply say : "thanks maestro you are the best of all time".
@plehotka legelsősorban köszönöm a személyes élménnyel ízesített választ, ott ültem a Don Carlos és a Hovanscsina előadáson, Simándi egy hisztérikus ember volt volt neki Prevedi affairje is, Siepi-t is láttam élőben olyan átlényegülést és megjelenítést amit a hangjával Christoff képes volt Siepi sem meg Nyesztyerenko sem aki talán egy még nagyobb basszus, nekem nagyon sok esetben az jutott eszembe Siepi-ről, hogy a Micimackó beszorult a befőttesüvegbe és onnan brummog kifelé, Christoff a dalokb
I like Christoff....depending on what he's singing that is. He always had a severe Bulgarian accent in everything he sang....and it could be distracting. Ghiaurov's accent is almost nonexistant in comparison. Either way a greatly prefer Siepi to Christoff in all things Italian.....and Siepi makes Christoff sound like a baritone.
I believe that if Siepi was alive he would ask to remove this record from UA-cam, because this is not the Siepi at the height of his career, the perfect Siepi we know.
Semplicemente stupendi!!!Lo squillo di Nicola Martinucci e la superba voce di Siepi!!!❤❤❤
Cesare Siepi,all'epoca di questa performance,a quasi settantanni,era ancora uno dei migliori bassi in circolazione.
Esatto!!!❤
Cesare Siepi basso profondo e grande Ramfis
Peu importe l'âge et les traces d'usure dans la voix de Siepi. Il est tout simplement titanesque encore. Bien des jeunes basse aujourd'hui propulsées sur les scènes internationales ne lui arrivent pas à la cheville. De surcroît, Martinucci, tristement négligé au disque, reste un des rares Radamès plausible que j'ai pu entendre à la scène. En résumé : deux grandes voix italiennes, de deux générations différentes et pourtant idéalement associées. Je ne regrette qu'une chose : n'avoir pu faire le voyage à l'époque pour entendre cela "in vivo" ... !
Il timbro di Siepi e lo squillo di Nicola Martinucci: cose che non udremo più
Concordo pienamente con lei!!
This clip is my favorite siepi.
Though the F wasn’t well focused, the after that legato line is just fantastic.
I heard both Siepi and Ghaiurov on stage. Comparisons are odious. As I posted somewhere else about Tozzi. There have only been about 10 bass stars in opera since the begining of the twentieth century. I don't know about Lablache, Fischer or Galli (bass stars of the ottocento).
Siepi's voice was simply amazing. It was so big and so easy. Ghiarov's voice when I first heard him was also amazing - huge and commanding.
I've always read the same about Ghiaurov, but honestly I've never heard it, not with the same marvel as you say. On the other hand, Christoff was commanding and glorious!
you are making comparisions where there is none, Christoff has the forever presence and operatic theater, listen to his Philipp the II by Karajan and other tragic works, Siepi is another world has darker sonorous bass I heard both alive in the same Don Carlos, my vote is for Christoff and love Siepi in another roles I am glad to know we have such a rich spectra
.... great. And here he is 65 years old...
take in consideration de age of Mr. Siepi in that moment.
Odd that everyone comments about Siepi and none about Martinucci. I heard Martinucci live at SF Opera in Turandot. He was the real thing. A real Italian drammatic tenor in the Del Monaco - Corelli tradition. I thought he was more impressive in the theater than either Giacomini or Bartolini.
Patrick Boyle commenting 11 years later, but I was also at that SF Turandot. Martinucci was superb in that performance. As Patrick says, a real Italian dramatic tenor.
I don't know about a secluded life - I think he is married and lives near Atlanta (not sure about this)
I wrote him a letter via the Met a few years back and they told me they would forward it to him. I hope they did! He's was a wonderful singer.
Siepi of course!!!!
As I recall, February 10th (today) is Cesare Siepi's birthday. Magnificent singer
Spectacular.TY Gabba02 for posting this gem
Of course if those guys ever wore those outfits in Egypt they would immediately die of heat prostration. Poor singers have to endure the 'genius' of the set designers, costumers and stage directors. Yet you'll notice that only the singers attract an audience. Who watches opera on UA-cam for anything else but the singers.
BTW don't interpret anything good I said about Martinucci as meaning I don't have anything but the greatest respect for Siepi.
The high F is fine...good lord everyone is a critic
Mine too! In the vocal department Siepi wins hands down, the richness and legato are peerless. Ghiaurov could often sound scarier and this was extremely effective in some roles. And I'm not sure about this but think that Ghiaurov had the more powerful voice. But I wish I'd seen either of them live.
Does anyone know how I could get in touch with him? I read he is in Florida but living a sort of secluded life. Is that true? So many young people revere him, it would be terrible if we can not even send him a letter to simply say : "thanks maestro you are the best of all time".
@plehotka legelsősorban köszönöm a személyes élménnyel ízesített választ, ott ültem a Don Carlos és a Hovanscsina előadáson, Simándi egy hisztérikus ember volt volt neki Prevedi affairje is, Siepi-t is láttam élőben olyan átlényegülést és megjelenítést amit a hangjával Christoff képes volt Siepi sem meg Nyesztyerenko sem aki talán egy még nagyobb basszus, nekem nagyon sok esetben az jutott eszembe Siepi-ről, hogy a Micimackó beszorult a befőttesüvegbe és onnan brummog kifelé, Christoff a dalokb
Too bad they had to but Siepi in that silly costume. But man, he sounded awesome at 65...
I like Christoff....depending on what he's singing that is. He always had a severe Bulgarian accent in everything he sang....and it could be distracting. Ghiaurov's accent is almost nonexistant in comparison. Either way a greatly prefer Siepi to Christoff in all things Italian.....and Siepi makes Christoff sound like a baritone.
ua-cam.com/video/Cjm2YXXN3Pk/v-deo.html : Christoff had the most commanding, noble and severe voice while Siepi had a throat voice
I believe that if Siepi was alive he would ask to remove this record from UA-cam, because this is not the Siepi at the height of his career, the perfect Siepi we know.
And yet, Siepi is still Siepi! Fascinating how his musicality compensates for whatever decline of the voice itself.
+Lukas d'Oro Nonsense. Siepi not at the height of his career is still better than any basso currently singing in opera today.
Cesare Siepi here is far superior than any contemporary bass. Actually, he sounds better than most of old school operatic bass even in his 65.