Thank you for the tutorial! I had the procedure basically in my mind, but it is always great to actually see it done before moving ahead. I hadn't thought of purging the filter housing of air, but is a very important point! Just filtered a simple blonde ale that is now brilliant in clairity! Cheers IPAHOMEBREWER!
Great tutorial! Thanks for posting it! I just got a plate filter and I was considering adding it downstream of your setup when I want to really polish the final product. Using your system as a prefilter might make the usual problems plate filters have go away.
thanks for this video showing me how to do this. I did everything as you show, and then at the end I learned that if I turn the filter upside down it will drain he last of the beer out of the filter too.
Great informative vid. Especially the part about purging the actual filter housing. Guess I just never thought of it. Never had a problem but as we all know when it comes to brewing you can never be to careful. We actually use a sealed conical fermenter that we are able to pressurize so it eliminates having to transfer twice. Works really well. Thx for the vid.
Thanks for a great video! I've only filtered one batch so far and it turned out great. I was just bummed out by the amount of beer I wasn't able to get through the filter in the very end. By the looks of your demonstration there also seems to be about a good pint of beer that "gets stuck" in the filter. I tried different elevations and burping the receiving keg, closing the valve on the filter and so on but couldn't get that last beer to go all the way. Any solution to my problem?
I used a 12v vac pump connected to the CO2 port of the keg and drew the beer though the filter directly from the fermenter bucket into the Keg . I prepped the filter by blowing through with CO2 sanitiser from the the receiving keg . turned the filter upside down and pushed the CO2 through until the keg and filter was empty of sanitiser. Connected vac pump watched the clear vac pump hose for any foam or beer coming up the vac pump line as this would damage the vac pump while keeping an eye of the bucket level to calculate how much beer was in the keg. Saved on having an extra keg and cleaning it after.
I bought the same filter system you have. After I hooked everything up to transfer from the first keg to the second the beer would not transfer to the second keg. I doubled checked and the lines were coming from the proper ports, made sure the ball valves were properly seated. The beer flowed from the first keg through the filter up the out line but everything stopped when it got to the out valve of the second keg. I also increased the pressure on my tank almost to 20psi. Anybody have any ideas? I used a 5 micron filter on a pale ale
I find i end up with about 400 ml of loss. it really does push most of your brew through. Plus bubbling is not a problem if you purge the filter of all oxygen prior to filtering.
Hi. Maybe you can help me. I'd like to convert a 7.75 gallon keg to a pot brew to make my beers but I have noticed that the surface is not plane for kegs in this size like it is in the big kegs and I'm afraid the ball valve couldn't be well fixed there (there is a salience in the place we normally put the tap/ball valve at the keg bottom). Actually I haven't seen people converting 7.75 gallon kegs but mostly 15.5 gallons keg size. Do you think it's possible to easy convert a 7.75 gallon keg? Thanks
You can get the system on Ebay for around $60 or so. You can buy bulk filters (25pack) for around $50. As for how many times I use my filters, just once. You could use them more if you line up your filtering for one day, I.E. filtering 10-20 gallons or several kegs going from lightest to darkest. However since you are putting your final product in the keg you should not store a used filter for later use (to much bacteria), it will ruin your beer.
this is a cool idea but seems expensive. Refilling the Co2 and replacing the filters adds up. Still an awesome way to do it though. Thanks for the video :)
You are correct, the keg the cider was initially siphoned into was open on top and wasn't fully purged of oxygen. But, it did have an initial layer of CO2 in the bottom (see 2:29). Since CO2 is heavier than regular air, it would sink down to (and stay in) the bottom part of the key. As long as the keg is filled from the bottom up, the CO2 layer will then "float" on top of the rising cider level (keeping the cider from coming into contact with the regular air). Does that make sense?
Hi, my beer is low carbonated, nice tasting English ale but not very clear... almost been sitting in cold conditioning for 4 wèeks, so has somebody ever filtered with carbonated beer, I don't think the beer will spoil... but might be a big mess...
Ingenius. I have the filter setup for carbon filtering my mash/sparge/boil water. I'm having trouble finding fittings to get from 3/4" male NPT (in and out on filter assembly) to 3/16" barb (beverage line to both kegs). Any source for these fittings or alternate way to skin that cat? Thanks for posting! DB
Hello nice tutorial for all small brewers out there. Just got a type D barrel and thinking about keging and carbonating, We use wirflock to minimize the hazy and get a clean beer, think we could skip the filter and get the beer to the keg directly after the rack?
You can always skip the filter if you like. If you are kegging in steel, the beer will be fine and clear up over time when stored cold. The primary benefit to filtering prior to kegging is consistency. The thing with wirflock is, this is to reduce the proteins which cause haze in your beer, they do nothing for the yeast... This is where the filtering comes into play. Again, not mandatory, just one more step we can take to improve the beer.
are you sure you had it hooked up to the right posts? It should flow from you out post to your other out post. If you put your CO2 on the out post with home brew in the keg then it will bubble up at you. When pushing your brew from your original keg to your filter the CO2 should be hooked up to the in post.
Cold crashing doesnt always remove everything. Although you dont see it, alot of yeast stays in suspension after a cold crash. A filter will remove 99% of anything in suspension.
When you filter your beer, are you able to reuse that micron filter or do you use a new one each time? I just purchased a system, which carries a 1 micron filter, but once I was done, the filter wasn't that bad looking, but couldn't clean it very well.
Hi Brannon, you can re-use filters if you want to. If you do this, I would say only if you have another batch on deck for filtering and is one of a similar or stronger flavor profile than your first batch. You can clean the filter using StarSan and then start on the second batch. Any longer than that and the challenge becomes cleaning, storing them, and making sure they are sanitary!! IMHO, I found that the work needed to do this is not worth it. I buy my 1 micron and 5 micron filters in bulk, around 50 a box. This keeps me well stocked for at least two years.
Can you please post a link to where I can purchase that filteration system, and the individual poly setiment filters? Also, can you explain why you didn't use star san on the filter?
+Cameron C I was wondering about sanitizing the filter too. I always thought you were supposed to run a filter for a few minutes when new-maybe that's just charcoal filters.
New to brewing. I love hazy ipas, will filtering alter the haze level / flavor profile? As far as getting clear product, couldn't you also add enzymes during fermentation?
Hi Mrjc, good question. The main reason one would use two kegs is due to the pressure levels. While there is equipment which will let you push from a carboy into a keg, I personally have found the 6lbs or so of pressure needed to move your brew through the system will pop the rubber carboy tops. These carboy kits are better suited for transferring from one carboy to another or into bottles. You may be able to use this method, however be careful. I have heard stories of people using this method and their carboys end up cracking or blowing out due to the pressure. Best of luck.
Hi Doug, yes I sanitize the filter prior to using it. I soak it in some starsan for about 5 minutes prior. once it starts filtering toss the first few cups since it will have a lot of sanitizer in it.
Are you able to clean and reuse the 1 micron cartridge filter or is it a one time use process? Can you give me the brand/model number of the 1 micron filters and the cartridge housing you are using? Lastly, I see that pentek offers both pleated 1 micron filter cartridges and also just the non-pleated cartridges. Do you think the pleated cartridges would be cleanable and reusable? Thanks for all your information and the great video.
+Barry Mizes Hi Barry, you could use the filter for multiple batches in the same day. I would advise against cleaning and re-using the filter, to high of a risk for infection and at the end of the process, you would hate to have it bad then.
+Jonathan Small Depends on the beer. Certain wheat beers and heffys are supposed to be cloudy and use the yeast as a big part of the flavor profile. They can still be filtered just use like a 5 or 10 micron instead. I use a 1 micron for almost all of my beers and it comes out great. Even with dark stouts and porters.
Robert Dexter hot tip! The foam from the starsan is not «dangerous to your beer before fermentation, but after the fermentaition, all those little bubbles contains oxygen and should not get into your fermented beer!
I read filtering through a coffee filter would oxidize the hell out of it, leaving a bad taste in the finished product. Why is this filter better? EDIT: Oh, you empty it from oxygen.
Hi Joe, Pectin enzymes will help prevent a haze when you are heating your must and using a fruit. These enzymes do nothing to remove yeast still in suspension. If you plan as I do, to store your mead or beer for a long time, you want that stuff out
Why do you care about the oxygen in the keg as well as the filter? Especially since you just siphoned the cider into an open keg. It seems like the amount of oxygen would be negligible and just make extra work.
I wish to toss this idea out to you for your views? How about we filter just as you show in this video, but do it right out of the boil pot? In other words, once the wort is cool, move to the first keg, then run though the filter to the carboy. This would mean you no longer have to worry about sucking up the crap at the bottom of the pot. After fermentation in the carboy do everything again as shown in this video to filter again into the keg
+alan molstad Most of what he is filtering out here is the suspended yeast. You pitch the yeast in the carboy. So you are straining the yeast out after fermentation.
+alan molstad Hi Alan, you could filter prior to fermenting if you wanted to, however your risk for infection goes up and if you whirlpool well or add irish moss, you shouldn't have any issues pouring into your carboy.
cheaper to go buy a box of beer from shop than buy all that plus the rest of the things you use. why go to all that trouble for a beer? i buy a kit add a couple of hops and dex. then syphon into 2LT soda bottles leave them for a month then when i want to drink them i get a can of pipe freeze spray. spray the bottom of the bottle then pour the beer out leaving the crap at the bottom. plus a ice cold beer in my jug. i do the same with my barrels and if i take a barrel to a party i spray freeze the bottom. and put the barrel in a cooler bag till i get to the party. no cloudy beer. and no much cash spent. i spent 40 UK pounds on used home brew stuff all i buy now is the kits and hops extra corn sugar not thousand pounds on all that lot. i was lead to think home brew was for saving money?.
Hands down the best idea on filtering homebrew. You sir are a genius! You got me inspired...
This is a fantastic tutorial. Thanks so much. Soon to get into kegging! All the best
Thank you for the tutorial! I had the procedure basically in my mind, but it is always great to actually see it done before moving ahead. I hadn't thought of purging the filter housing of air, but is a very important point! Just filtered a simple blonde ale that is now brilliant in clairity! Cheers IPAHOMEBREWER!
Great tutorial! Thanks for posting it! I just got a plate filter and I was considering adding it downstream of your setup when I want to really polish the final product. Using your system as a prefilter might make the usual problems plate filters have go away.
thanks for this video showing me how to do this.
I did everything as you show, and then at the end I learned that if I turn the filter upside down it will drain he last of the beer out of the filter too.
Great informative vid. Especially the part about purging the actual filter housing. Guess I just never thought of it. Never had a problem but as we all know when it comes to brewing you can never be to careful. We actually use a sealed conical fermenter that we are able to pressurize so it eliminates having to transfer twice. Works really well. Thx for the vid.
Nifty little set up. We just rack thru a sock into the keg. Usually, we use a clean sock..,
Excellent video!
You could use a PVC reducer to go from 3/4" MPT down to 1/2" FPT, then get a brass fitting to go 1/2" MPT down to 3/16" Barb.
Thanks for a great video! I've only filtered one batch so far and it turned out great. I was just bummed out by the amount of beer I wasn't able to get through the filter in the very end. By the looks of your demonstration there also seems to be about a good pint of beer that "gets stuck" in the filter. I tried different elevations and burping the receiving keg, closing the valve on the filter and so on but couldn't get that last beer to go all the way.
Any solution to my problem?
I used a 12v vac pump connected to the CO2 port of the keg and drew the beer though the filter directly from the fermenter bucket into the Keg . I prepped the filter by blowing through with CO2 sanitiser from the the receiving keg . turned the filter upside down and pushed the CO2 through until the keg and filter was empty of sanitiser. Connected vac pump watched the clear vac pump hose for any foam or beer coming up the vac pump line as this would damage the vac pump while keeping an eye of the bucket level to calculate how much beer was in the keg. Saved on having an extra keg and cleaning it after.
Best filtration video on UA-cam!!! Is the filter just an inline water filter?
How does filtering effect the final Body and Mouth feel ? Reason behind my question is I like the particulates that give my homebrew that body..
Nice video. Thanks for sharing.
My family have produced cider for at least 100 years no co2 just sanitizing we have never had a problem
I bought the same filter system you have. After I hooked everything up to transfer from the first keg to the second the beer would not transfer to the second keg. I doubled checked and the lines were coming from the proper ports, made sure the ball valves were properly seated. The beer flowed from the first keg through the filter up the out line but everything stopped when it got to the out valve of the second keg. I also increased the pressure on my tank almost to 20psi. Anybody have any ideas? I used a 5 micron filter on a pale ale
I find i end up with about 400 ml of loss. it really does push most of your brew through. Plus bubbling is not a problem if you purge the filter of all oxygen prior to filtering.
Cheers we just found your channel and subscribed , we home brew beer make wine and meads grow hops great vid
nice fermenter in the corner!
Hi. Maybe you can help me.
I'd like to convert a 7.75 gallon keg to a pot brew to make my beers but I have noticed that the surface is not plane for kegs in this size like it is in the big kegs and I'm afraid the ball valve couldn't be well fixed there (there is a salience in the place we normally put the tap/ball valve at the keg bottom).
Actually I haven't seen people converting 7.75 gallon kegs but mostly 15.5 gallons keg size.
Do you think it's possible to easy convert a 7.75 gallon keg?
Thanks
Nice video by the way, bought filter due to how easy it looks... let's see if I can a chief this clean process as
in the video
KEEP TEACHING. I'M JUST GETTING READY TO START BEER FERMENTING SOON. GREAT VIDEO GOD BLESS
Thank you for the vid, good instruction.
You can get the system on Ebay for around $60 or so. You can buy bulk filters (25pack) for around $50. As for how many times I use my filters, just once.
You could use them more if you line up your filtering for one day, I.E. filtering 10-20 gallons or several kegs going from lightest to darkest.
However since you are putting your final product in the keg you should not store a used filter for later use (to much bacteria), it will ruin your beer.
this is a cool idea but seems expensive. Refilling the Co2 and replacing the filters adds up. Still an awesome way to do it though. Thanks for the video :)
You are correct, the keg the cider was initially siphoned into was open on top and wasn't fully purged of oxygen.
But, it did have an initial layer of CO2 in the bottom (see 2:29). Since CO2 is heavier than regular air, it would sink down to (and stay in) the bottom part of the key. As long as the keg is filled from the bottom up, the CO2 layer will then "float" on top of the rising cider level (keeping the cider from coming into contact with the regular air). Does that make sense?
that's a laughably naive statement. Gas doesn't stratify, it mixes. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalton%27s_law
Very nice video
I didn't see you sanitize the filter. Did you just not show that part, or did you skip sanitizing it?
How clear did the beer end up?
Sanitize the filter and filter case?
Yep, then just add the ball lock conectors and filter. This works great and really clears out those hard to settle brews.
make sure your receiving kegs pressure valve or top is open.
Why?
Hi, my beer is low carbonated, nice tasting English ale but not very clear... almost been sitting in cold conditioning for 4 wèeks, so has somebody ever filtered with carbonated beer, I don't think the beer will spoil... but might be a big mess...
Ingenius. I have the filter setup for carbon filtering my mash/sparge/boil water. I'm having trouble finding fittings to get from 3/4" male NPT (in and out on filter assembly) to 3/16" barb (beverage line to both kegs). Any source for these fittings or alternate way to skin that cat? Thanks for posting! DB
Any idea (roughly) how much waste product you end up with? I'm assuming it doesn't push the line clear but starts to bubble. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I usually end up with about half a pint of wasted brew in the filter so not much.
Hello nice tutorial for all small brewers out there. Just got a type D barrel and thinking about keging and carbonating, We use wirflock to minimize the hazy and get a clean beer, think we could skip the filter and get the beer to the keg directly after the rack?
You can always skip the filter if you like. If you are kegging in steel, the beer will be fine and clear up over time when stored cold. The primary benefit to filtering prior to kegging is consistency. The thing with wirflock is, this is to reduce the proteins which cause haze in your beer, they do nothing for the yeast... This is where the filtering comes into play. Again, not mandatory, just one more step we can take to improve the beer.
how much is the sytem, filter etc, how many times can you used the filter
best video yet. How much do you set PSI when actually carbonating the beer?
Normally 20-30 psi. There are charts I am sure you can find on the internet for the exact temps and psi.
I am trying to find this filter on Amazon. Can you share a link? Or a make and model
are you sure you had it hooked up to the right posts? It should flow from you out post to your other out post. If you put your CO2 on the out post with home brew in the keg then it will bubble up at you. When pushing your brew from your original keg to your filter the CO2 should be hooked up to the in post.
You could always cold crash and not have to use a filter... thank you for the video!
Cold crashing doesnt always remove everything. Although you dont see it, alot of yeast stays in suspension after a cold crash. A filter will remove 99% of anything in suspension.
tiltrotor22 but yeast is good for it contains vitamin B1 etc.. so if you cant see it n its clear why not cold crash..
+TheMitchtuber I for one get tired of getting insane gas and various stomach problems,so buy some vitamens and drink clean beer.
When you filter your beer, are you able to reuse that micron filter or do you use a new one each time? I just purchased a system, which carries a 1 micron filter, but once I was done, the filter wasn't that bad looking, but couldn't clean it very well.
Hi Brannon, you can re-use filters if you want to. If you do this, I would say only if you have another batch on deck for filtering and is one of a similar or stronger flavor profile than your first batch. You can clean the filter using StarSan and then start on the second batch. Any longer than that and the challenge becomes cleaning, storing them, and making sure they are sanitary!!
IMHO, I found that the work needed to do this is not worth it. I buy my 1 micron and 5 micron filters in bulk, around 50 a box. This keeps me well stocked for at least two years.
Can you please post a link to where I can purchase that filteration system, and the individual poly setiment filters? Also, can you explain why you didn't use star san on the filter?
+Cameron C The home wine making business have motorized power filters which use inexpensive flat replaceable filters.
+Cameron C
I was wondering about sanitizing the filter too. I always thought you were supposed to run a filter for a few minutes when new-maybe that's just charcoal filters.
you touched your siphon with your fingers saying to be carefull to sanatation...and put the siphon touched with fingers in your brew
New to brewing. I love hazy ipas, will filtering alter the haze level / flavor profile?
As far as getting clear product, couldn't you also add enzymes during fermentation?
You could have shewn us the result before and after in a glass at the end.
where can i buy all these equipments? in india nothing is available grrrrrrr....
Hello, question. Why do you use two kegs? Couldn’t you just go from carboy to filter to keg? I want to do this but don’t want to clean more stuff.
Hi Mrjc, good question. The main reason one would use two kegs is due to the pressure levels. While there is equipment which will let you push from a carboy into a keg, I personally have found the 6lbs or so of pressure needed to move your brew through the system will pop the rubber carboy tops. These carboy kits are better suited for transferring from one carboy to another or into bottles. You may be able to use this method, however be careful. I have heard stories of people using this method and their carboys end up cracking or blowing out due to the pressure. Best of luck.
Great! Thanks for responding so quick. I will be trying this out over the weekend. I will take your advice.
Do you need to sanitize your filter cartridge or canister?
Hi Doug, yes I sanitize the filter prior to using it. I soak it in some starsan for about 5 minutes prior. once it starts filtering toss the first few cups since it will have a lot of sanitizer in it.
Yes you sanitize your filter using Star San. That part was cut out. Always sanitize and then.... sanitize again
you don't want to filter the cartidge if it's out of the package, just the filter housing.
Are you able to clean and reuse the 1 micron cartridge filter or is it a one time use process? Can you give me the brand/model number of the 1 micron filters and the cartridge housing you are using? Lastly, I see that pentek offers both pleated 1 micron filter cartridges and also just the non-pleated cartridges. Do you think the pleated cartridges would be cleanable and reusable? Thanks for all your information and the great video.
+Barry Mizes The home wine making industry has a motor powered filter that uses inexpensive .5 micron filters...much cheaper to replace.
+Barry Mizes Hi Barry, you could use the filter for multiple batches in the same day. I would advise against cleaning and re-using the filter, to high of a risk for infection and at the end of the process, you would hate to have it bad then.
Wouldn't the 1 micron filter affect the final taste of the beer?
Jonathan Small Not mine. Makes no obvious difference at all. In fact, I'm down to a 0.5 micron.
+Jonathan Small Depends on the beer. Certain wheat beers and heffys are supposed to be cloudy and use the yeast as a big part of the flavor profile. They can still be filtered just use like a 5 or 10 micron instead. I use a 1 micron for almost all of my beers and it comes out great. Even with dark stouts and porters.
Hey Brooke. The filters are sealed and sanitized already. Just open and use.
Robert Dexter hot tip!
The foam from the starsan is not «dangerous to your beer before fermentation, but after the fermentaition, all those little bubbles contains oxygen and should not get into your fermented beer!
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Hello. Question dont you sanitize te filter ?
Yes, you sanitize the filter prior to use.
Do you force carbonate your hard apple cider?
Elsinore Brewing Yes, he says it at the end of the video.
Why wouldn't you just filter it straight into one keg!!!?
They could also learn how to use Irish Moss or Whirfloc tablets in their wort which will also clear it without all of this.
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I just let the beer settle in the secondary fermenter until it is clear?
Too much work for me
Filter it already 2 times and so far I thing it was waste of money to get this filters,didn't work at all
I read filtering through a coffee filter would oxidize the hell out of it, leaving a bad taste in the finished product. Why is this filter better? EDIT: Oh, you empty it from oxygen.
Why not filter it directly into your keg instead of what is in essence a bottling keg? Seems like you could save yourself a step
Don't you need the co2 hooked up to the first keg to push it through the filter?
Seems like slot more work than needed. Why not use pectin enzyme.
Hi Joe,
Pectin enzymes will help prevent a haze when you are heating your must and using a fruit. These enzymes do nothing to remove yeast still in suspension. If you plan as I do, to store your mead or beer for a long time, you want that stuff out
My bad.. I’m still learning. I’m going to try a similar system.
Why do you care about the oxygen in the keg as well as the filter? Especially since you just siphoned the cider into an open keg. It seems like the amount of oxygen would be negligible and just make extra work.
I wish to toss this idea out to you for your views?
How about we filter just as you show in this video, but do it right out of the boil pot?
In other words, once the wort is cool, move to the first keg, then run though the filter to the carboy.
This would mean you no longer have to worry about sucking up the crap at the bottom of the pot.
After fermentation in the carboy do everything again as shown in this video to filter again into the keg
+alan molstad Most of what he is filtering out here is the suspended yeast. You pitch the yeast in the carboy. So you are straining the yeast out after fermentation.
+alan molstad Hi Alan, you could filter prior to fermenting if you wanted to, however your risk for infection goes up and if you whirlpool well or add irish moss, you shouldn't have any issues pouring into your carboy.
cheaper to go buy a box of beer from shop than buy all that plus the rest of the things you use. why go to all that trouble for a beer? i buy a kit add a couple of hops and dex. then syphon into 2LT soda bottles leave them for a month then when i want to drink them i get a can of pipe freeze spray. spray the bottom of the bottle then pour the beer out leaving the crap at the bottom. plus a ice cold beer in my jug. i do the same with my barrels and if i take a barrel to a party i spray freeze the bottom. and put the barrel in a cooler bag till i get to the party. no cloudy beer. and no much cash spent. i spent 40 UK pounds on used home brew stuff all i buy now is the kits and hops extra corn sugar not thousand pounds on all that lot. i was lead to think home brew was for saving money?.