omg. Can't believe we've figured out a way to pull off holograms so quickly! It seemed like a short while ago that this was all stuff restricted to some sci-fi/future fiction. This is awesome... Hope stuff like this becomes the norm soon... meaning I hope I don't have to wait until I'm way old to see all this cool stuff out-and-about in the world.
humans are cool. There is no other generation I would wish to live in. I have witnessed the birth of the home computer and seen it come so far in the last 30 years. Looking forward to the next 30!
It's a projection trick, you can do a very simple trick like this with a television monitor reflecting off a piece of glass onto a window. There's a Wikipedia article on Holography that goes into great detail how these sophisticated 3D projections work.
Clem40 - it's not a genuine hologram (as in having the ability to look at an object from all sides), it just allows you to project 2D video in all directions, giving the impression the "screen" is floating in mid-air.
Im curious, how does this system propagate light at the center? Normally you would have a screen, haze/fog or some way of reflecting the light. Very neat, I would like to read more
In response to why this technique is not used in theaters is quite simple. The reason this image appears 3D is because you're allowed to see the room that houses the the 3D image. If you want to have the lights on but dimmed while watching a movie while you're moving around feel free. Holograms are nothing more than video being reflected off of a clear shiny surface.
Exactly. This is clearly just a smooth implementation of the pepper's ghost illusion invented in the 1860s. It's not 3d, not volumetric, it's not a hologram, it has nothing to do with lasers and it isn't really that new. Still, it can integrate a live presentation with CG graphics that can be seen from 360 degrees, which makes it well designed and useful, even if it isn't a technological breakthrough as the spokesman suggests.
It's based on the good old "semitransparent mirror" tick, with a slight difference. There is another movie that shows it is actually done with a *rotating* mirror, with the display projected onto it rotating in sync with the mirror rotation. This way you see a different image from all angles, providing true 360 degree 3D. It's amazing how elegant and simple this is. Don't knock it for that. Good inventions always make you go "why didn't *I* think of this?"
I wouldn't be so quick to apply this to movies. It'd be a huge transition to begin recording movies with 3d-capable cameras. Also, movies are a linear narrative meant to be viewed at a specific angle. Take away camera angles and you take away a huge piece of movie-making. This will most likely be applied to gaming, presentations, and an occasional CGI movie.
Is it just a floating progector, or is it really 3d, so when you look at it from another angle it will look from another perspective?, like the real world is, or just 2d floating around.
It's not exactly a 3D projection. It's projecting 3D rendered films but you wouldn't be able to walk around the pyramid and see all 360 degrees of the hologram, it'll maintain the same perspective regardless of where you stand in the room.
I totally agree with you btw, I think people just think this is cool cause it's from Star Wars and science fiction. Until they can create a totally opaque version of this that's also really high quality, doubt it'll revolutionize anything but street advertising and department stores and theme parks.
Actually HD is meant to give depth to a digital 2D image so it seems more realistic, and sharpens the image so it's more true to how the human eye sees, so your kind of completely wrong about that. In fact the resolution of film is higher than HD because it isn't limited to pixels, it's based on silver halides in the emulsion, which are far far smaller than a pixel, it also has a more accurate color retention because it isn't based on a chip set, it's based purely on the color of light.
I can't explain it fully without reaching for a text book, but what I'm saying is that our perception of a holograph is something that can stand alone in free space, whereas this optic illusion relies on laser lights refracting and bouncing off carefully constructed lenses. Because it's dependant on this pyramid construction it's a sophisticated hologram and it's old technology, albeit expensive.
And that doesn't even take into account the fact that the impossible contraption would have to miraculously occupy the same space as dozens of large buildings and miles of roads. All without interfering with traffic or the flight of birds.
Looks awesome, but aren't holograms supposed to be floating 3D images? Like, have it put a cube up there and you are able to see every side of it by walking around?
(part 2) It's true that what we see in this video it is somewhat based in the Pepper's Ghost technique, but the results are completely different and are also accomplished differently. Anyways, just wanted to clarify any doubts. Good explanation, by the way. :)
This may be veiw-able from from 360 angles. But that doesn't mean this is a true 3D image. These could be just 2-D images that look exactly the same from no matter what angle to you it at from, which means it's STILL not 3-D. BUT, if they can alter the technology to create a slight off set image only veiwable to each eye, you could simulate a true 3-D image.
holograms (floating 3d images) are made when a strand of light/ single beam of light hits another beam of light straight on. this makes that beam of light stop in its tracks and appear to float. thats the basics. i dont understand it though
It would be strange watching programming in this format. Would there be backgrounds? And if so, how would that work? Just let me know when it's under a grand and isn't a giant upside-down pyramid in my living room.
the chamber it self is filled with a high light reacting gas , can't remeber which gas. then the poles emit a low fequancy photon waves near ultra violent . when the waves met they react to the gas . scanned photon waves are scan into the chamber like you would find electons scaned inside a old tubed television. to get different colours it is the differance between the rate and fequancy of the photon waves meeting so red is made by have a high number of waves hitting the same location.
@EpiDemic117 Yeah, I agree with you there. While they were going around with the camera filming you could tell the images were rotating too, not exactly "free floating" images... But neat anyhow.
See "ghostly floating head illusion virtual Hologram" and there rest my case. This guy from Cheoptics really had it easy looking over Disney's shoulder.
note: if you want to see an object from multible sides then you must let the object know where the camerapoint is. my team and I are experimenting with (semi)holograms. we can make a perfect holo with 1 viewer.. with multible camera's it seems impossible. we will keep trying though :P although that actually totally diffirent then what these guys are buildig.. (although its a nice way to mimmic holograms for your video art projects :) )
I just meant for films, I wouldn't want to watch a see-though movie. Now if they could perhaps show the movie opaque with actually physically different layers to show depth, kind of how they do animation, but better and opaque, I'd maybe be sold.
Just to say what I'm thinking what they did...the hologram isn't free floating at all, it's reflected on each of the sides of the pyramid. Place four cameras correctly to reflect that image off the sides and you have the hologram.
One question: how is this better than taking 3 big LCD screens (which work under any lighting conditions and produce a sharper image) and putting them in a triangle formation, viewable from all around? Sorry, but a blurred image inside a closed, dark pryamid chamber is not impressive. A nice novelty, but nothing amazing.
@Nasserx1j This is still quite remarkable. The technology is getting closer, and I am quite excited for when this hits the gaming industry. Maybe this isnt a real "hologram" by definition, but it is still amazing.
4 sheets of glass won't work, because it seem like u can see it at any angle. u can only see only at 4 side and the image will be different if u look at it in the corner.
(part2) The system uses a special film "eyeliner" developed by musion. It is partly mirrow, so we only see the proyection of several screens hidden from sight, but the mirrows make it look as if it is floating in middle air. (sorry . English is not my native language) It is only 2d... it can be used for 3d images.. but only if they are real... search for pepper ghost to understand it. :)
Seems to me that this is billboarded, where you see the same image from every angle. So you wouldn't look at it and see a 3D image, it would appear like a 2D image that's always facing you.
well technically u can make this a free form 3d image.. only thing u have to do is film from all four sides giving it a much better illusion of 3 dimensions
I'd be more impressed if instead of having a slowly rotating camera and quickly spinning objects it was the other way round... so we can see if you can truely see 3D objects from 360 degrees...
because that'd be the same image 3 times in the same angle the hologram is one image in any angle plus putting them end on end would only be 180 degrees of vision as nothing could be viewed from the top or the bottem
No, it's not. A hologram uses interference patterns in a flat surface to recreate a different image for your left than what your right eye sees. THIS Cheoptics display merely shows a single flat image of three-dimensional object for both eyes suspended in space. To see EXACTLY the same effect at home, just hold up a sheet of glass at an angle to your TV screen and watch the reflection on the glass (but I guess you could call that a hologram, if you really insist).
Um, so it makes 2D images visible from 360°? It would be much more impressive if it could transmit 3D images and you could see how an object looks from a different angle.
Actually there have been high quality holograms for decades. They are just too expensive to use in anything other than extreme high end applications. Go see the one in the Natural history museum in new york. It cost hundreds of thousands to make. And they are not supposed to be opaque, you are supposed to be able to see the entire object. Inside and out. Otherwise they would just make a 3D image, which is very easy.
Its not "real" 3d. If there is a model of a car, you cannot walk around it and see the back of it. The image of the front of the car will be on all the sides.
thats a good enough theory but i dont think itd work that way. that technology would actually be harder to create because the machine would have to determine the angle that you are looking at it from and make the 2d image be facing you or something. i think so anyway.
that's real hologram. Real holograms are made using mirrors, prisms and lasers. First one has been built around 1940. Search on wikipedia, you'll find how holograms work
These arent going to be home based. its only for commecial use. where you get the information quickly from many angles. The "3D" image is just an illusion created by recalculating the angle of the image whilst projecting each of its sides onto a pane of glass. really ametuer stuff really. i look foreward to seeing some car commercials in this medium soon though ^_^
I meant to give you a thumbs up and mis-clicked. Is there any way to fix that? While amukeen is right...this is not a hologram, you have a good point. Please disregard the minus.
SHOW US that this glass pyramid ISN'T reflecting a giant screen below it. SHOW US a 3D model that ISN'T spinning as we MOVE with it and maybe, just maybe, we'll determine whether or not it's a 'free-floating hologram'.
you are right... the only thing i've seen that has a true 3d effect is that spinning mirror at at angle. ie.. you project a person's head, and you see the back of his head you walk around it. its on another youtube clip.
omg. Can't believe we've figured out a way to pull off holograms so quickly! It seemed like a short while ago that this was all stuff restricted to some sci-fi/future fiction.
This is awesome... Hope stuff like this becomes the norm soon... meaning I hope I don't have to wait until I'm way old to see all this cool stuff out-and-about in the world.
humans are cool. There is no other generation I would wish to live in. I have witnessed the birth of the home computer and seen it come so far in the last 30 years. Looking forward to the next 30!
It's a projection trick, you can do a very simple trick like this with a television monitor reflecting off a piece of glass onto a window. There's a Wikipedia article on Holography that goes into great detail how these sophisticated 3D projections work.
I love that we're living in the future. The things we've always seen in science fiction is actually happening. It's great.
Allright you guys knock it off.That's very amazing and those images look almost real.
Clem40 - it's not a genuine hologram (as in having the ability to look at an object from all sides), it just allows you to project 2D video in all directions, giving the impression the "screen" is floating in mid-air.
Im curious, how does this system propagate light at the center? Normally you would have a screen, haze/fog or some way of reflecting the light.
Very neat, I would like to read more
In response to why this technique is not used in theaters is quite simple. The reason this image appears 3D is because you're allowed to see the room that houses the the 3D image. If you want to have the lights on but dimmed while watching a movie while you're moving around feel free. Holograms are nothing more than video being reflected off of a clear shiny surface.
Exactly. This is clearly just a smooth implementation of the pepper's ghost illusion invented in the 1860s. It's not 3d, not volumetric, it's not a hologram, it has nothing to do with lasers and it isn't really that new. Still, it can integrate a live presentation with CG graphics that can be seen from 360 degrees, which makes it well designed and useful, even if it isn't a technological breakthrough as the spokesman suggests.
YEs!!!I knew i would live long enough to see this day. Thank u god,u, smiley faces for everyone
It's based on the good old "semitransparent mirror" tick, with a slight difference.
There is another movie that shows it is actually done with a *rotating* mirror, with the display projected onto it rotating in sync with the mirror rotation.
This way you see a different image from all angles, providing true 360 degree 3D.
It's amazing how elegant and simple this is. Don't knock it for that. Good inventions always make you go "why didn't *I* think of this?"
I wouldn't be so quick to apply this to movies. It'd be a huge transition to begin recording movies with 3d-capable cameras. Also, movies are a linear narrative meant to be viewed at a specific angle. Take away camera angles and you take away a huge piece of movie-making. This will most likely be applied to gaming, presentations, and an occasional CGI movie.
Is it just a floating progector, or is it really 3d, so when you look at it from another angle it will look from another perspective?, like the real world is, or just 2d floating around.
Oh, ok. I think I get the gist of it now. Any recomended websites for ACTUAL holograms or further explanations for Cheoptics?
It's not exactly a 3D projection. It's projecting 3D rendered films but you wouldn't be able to walk around the pyramid and see all 360 degrees of the hologram, it'll maintain the same perspective regardless of where you stand in the room.
I totally agree with you btw, I think people just think this is cool cause it's from Star Wars and science fiction. Until they can create a totally opaque version of this that's also really high quality, doubt it'll revolutionize anything but street advertising and department stores and theme parks.
wait, is it the same side no matter what angle you look at, or can you see different sides of the object depending on where you stand?
Actually HD is meant to give depth to a digital 2D image so it seems more realistic, and sharpens the image so it's more true to how the human eye sees, so your kind of completely wrong about that. In fact the resolution of film is higher than HD because it isn't limited to pixels, it's based on silver halides in the emulsion, which are far far smaller than a pixel, it also has a more accurate color retention because it isn't based on a chip set, it's based purely on the color of light.
I can't explain it fully without reaching for a text book, but what I'm saying is that our perception of a holograph is something that can stand alone in free space, whereas this optic illusion relies on laser lights refracting and bouncing off carefully constructed lenses. Because it's dependant on this pyramid construction it's a sophisticated hologram and it's old technology, albeit expensive.
Agreed. It started to look like that for me, as the camera started to pan around near the end of the video.
Is this done with a Laser projected onto glass or is it something else?
thats pretty cool. they need to make those more compact so one can put it in their house
And that doesn't even take into account the fact that the impossible contraption would have to miraculously occupy the same space as dozens of large buildings and miles of roads. All without interfering with traffic or the flight of birds.
Looks awesome, but aren't holograms supposed to be floating 3D images? Like, have it put a cube up there and you are able to see every side of it by walking around?
This is incredible. There's even color. I'm assuming it's just a 2d image tho, no 3d stuff yet, right?
(part 2)
It's true that what we see in this video it is somewhat based in the Pepper's Ghost technique, but the results are completely different and are also accomplished differently. Anyways, just wanted to clarify any doubts. Good explanation, by the way. :)
This may be veiw-able from from 360 angles. But that doesn't mean this is a true 3D image. These could be just 2-D images that look exactly the same from no matter what angle to you it at from, which means it's STILL not 3-D. BUT, if they can alter the technology to create a slight off set image only veiwable to each eye, you could simulate a true 3-D image.
even if holograms come out what special equipment would they use to record shows like emerdale coranation street etc ?
I'm curious. How do you film something real for the holopod?
holograms (floating 3d images) are made when a strand of light/ single beam of light hits another beam of light straight on. this makes that beam of light stop in its tracks and appear to float. thats the basics. i dont understand it though
Wow soooo cool... Two questions, How does it work and where can I get one????
It would be strange watching programming in this format. Would there be backgrounds? And if so, how would that work? Just let me know when it's under a grand and isn't a giant upside-down pyramid in my living room.
the chamber it self is filled with a high light reacting gas , can't remeber which gas. then the poles emit a low fequancy photon waves near ultra violent . when the waves met they react to the gas . scanned photon waves are scan into the chamber like you would find electons scaned inside a old tubed television. to get different colours it is the differance between the rate and fequancy of the photon waves meeting so red is made by have a high number of waves hitting the same location.
wow, cheoptics hologram,....COOL, AWESOME! BTW, i am of the same mind as Dafaernir, be cool to watch a good horror movie on that!
Id like one of those. On top of my Lounge ;)
Whats the pay-ups. The Luxology and Size MeterSquare per distance ?
@EpiDemic117 Yeah, I agree with you there. While they were going around with the camera filming you could tell the images were rotating too, not exactly "free floating" images... But neat anyhow.
Awesome!!
See "ghostly floating head illusion virtual Hologram" and there rest my case. This guy from Cheoptics really had it easy looking over Disney's shoulder.
note: if you want to see an object from multible sides then you must let the object know where the camerapoint is.
my team and I are experimenting with (semi)holograms. we can make a perfect holo with 1 viewer.. with multible camera's it seems impossible. we will keep trying though :P
although that actually totally diffirent then what these guys are buildig..
(although its a nice way to mimmic holograms for your video art projects :) )
I just meant for films, I wouldn't want to watch a see-though movie. Now if they could perhaps show the movie opaque with actually physically different layers to show depth, kind of how they do animation, but better and opaque, I'd maybe be sold.
This technology is over tens years old. There's an old Sega arcade game called Time Traveller that did this.
Can you see the way the light coming from the hidden plasma set illuminates the metal frame that holds the entire thing in place?
the though of being able to plunge your hand into the projected images seems qierd , the look so real
Great, sprites in real world. I wonder if they are going to make real life voxels or something.
Just to say what I'm thinking what they did...the hologram isn't free floating at all, it's reflected on each of the sides of the pyramid. Place four cameras correctly to reflect that image off the sides and you have the hologram.
@Galfonz Yeah its just projectors shining on miroors, but it's really convincing when you see it !
One question: how is this better than taking 3 big LCD screens (which work under any lighting conditions and produce a sharper image) and putting them in a triangle formation, viewable from all around? Sorry, but a blurred image inside a closed, dark pryamid chamber is not impressive. A nice novelty, but nothing amazing.
Its just some projectors on glass screens. For those who think its a"STAR WARS type of hologram its not.
@Nasserx1j This is still quite remarkable. The technology is getting closer, and I am quite excited for when this hits the gaming industry. Maybe this isnt a real "hologram" by definition, but it is still amazing.
Wow, you've made a bajillion comments.
I was also disappointed that it's not an actual 3D hologram.
Not a problem -- I've been guilty of the same. It actually had me going for a few minutes, too. It would definitely get my attention.
4 sheets of glass won't work, because it seem like u can see it at any angle. u can only see only at 4 side and the image will be different if u look at it in the corner.
(part2)
The system uses a special film "eyeliner" developed by musion. It is partly mirrow, so we only see the proyection of several screens hidden from sight, but the mirrows make it look as if it is floating in middle air.
(sorry . English is not my native language)
It is only 2d... it can be used for 3d images.. but only if they are real... search for pepper ghost to understand it. :)
@Unbeginner it's very hard to make a hologramic figure in 3D images and you could see how an object looks from a different angle.
doesn't it?
oh my goodness. that would be awesome!
Whatever. This is awesome technology. I see the potential in it.
Cool,Imagine this in HDTV!
NOW, THIS IS REALLY 3D!!!
Seems to me that this is billboarded, where you see the same image from every angle. So you wouldn't look at it and see a 3D image, it would appear like a 2D image that's always facing you.
is there some type of gas insied. there must be otherwise the image could not show up. the light has to reflect of of something
the technology is amazing but they need a bit more work to have more "live" colors. This could be the future of cinemas also !!..
well technically u can make this a free form 3d image.. only thing u have to do is film from all four sides
giving it a much better illusion of 3 dimensions
I'd be more impressed if instead of having a slowly rotating camera and quickly spinning objects it was the other way round... so we can see if you can truely see 3D objects from 360 degrees...
they said hologram will be like cellphone that you can buy in cheap price after 10 years ^^,
that looks futuristic
@Unbeginner uh its still pretty cool! imagine...this is the future of television in your home
So awesome!
i wonder how you film an object from 360 simultaneous degrees?
because that'd be the same image 3 times in the same angle
the hologram is one image in any angle
plus putting them end on end would only be 180 degrees of vision as nothing could be viewed from the top or the bottem
i had an idea to creat sumthing like this when i was like 5!! lol that is cool
No, it's not. A hologram uses interference patterns in a flat surface to recreate a different image for your left than what your right eye sees. THIS Cheoptics display merely shows a single flat image of three-dimensional object for both eyes suspended in space. To see EXACTLY the same effect at home, just hold up a sheet of glass at an angle to your TV screen and watch the reflection on the glass (but I guess you could call that a hologram, if you really insist).
how can you buy this thing
and how much does it cost
Um, so it makes 2D images visible from 360°?
It would be much more impressive if it could transmit 3D images and you could see how an object looks from a different angle.
Actually there have been high quality holograms for decades. They are just too expensive to use in anything other than extreme high end applications. Go see the one in the Natural history museum in new york. It cost hundreds of thousands to make. And they are not supposed to be opaque, you are supposed to be able to see the entire object. Inside and out. Otherwise they would just make a 3D image, which is very easy.
you know that the janitor learned how to use that thing just so he can look at stripers
the question i have is if they use this for advertising, how would it look in daylight?
This is a very cool design, but this isn't a hologram; it's a Pepper's ghost illusion.
Its not "real" 3d. If there is a model of a car, you cannot walk around it and see the back of it. The image of the front of the car will be on all the sides.
wow imagine playing an fps game on one of these!
It's about fucking time. Now where the hell is my flying car?
Lol soon we will have holographic doctors and holographic recreation stations :P all we need is a warp engine
Additionally, the guy in the video nevers says it's a hologram, he calls it a volumetric display which is quite different.
thats a good enough theory but i dont think itd work that way. that technology would actually be harder to create because the machine would have to determine the angle that you are looking at it from and make the 2d image be facing you or something. i think so anyway.
though i do like the idea of taking super-model pictures 360 times though:D
that would maybe give a cylindrical view of it, still wouldn't help to create a real 3D image though
that's real hologram. Real holograms are made using mirrors, prisms and lasers. First one has been built around 1940. Search on wikipedia, you'll find how holograms work
@Unbeginner Imagine how much of a pain it would be if you're watching TV and every time you move the angle changes!
i sure would like 2
amazing song, does anybody know its name?
These arent going to be home based. its only for commecial use. where you get the information quickly from many angles.
The "3D" image is just an illusion created by recalculating the angle of the image whilst projecting each of its sides onto a pane of glass. really ametuer stuff really. i look foreward to seeing some car commercials in this medium soon though ^_^
I meant to give you a thumbs up and mis-clicked. Is there any way to fix that? While amukeen is right...this is not a hologram, you have a good point. Please disregard the minus.
At 2:18 you can see It turning flat.
A Cloth Screen on every side of pyramid.
This is not a hologram either... This is just an updated version of the old Disneyland "Haunted House" projection technique.
I want a screen like this!
SHOW US that this glass pyramid ISN'T reflecting a giant screen below it. SHOW US a 3D model that ISN'T spinning as we MOVE with it and maybe, just maybe, we'll determine whether or not it's a 'free-floating hologram'.
you are right... the only thing i've seen that has a true 3d effect is that spinning mirror at at angle. ie.. you project a person's head, and you see the back of his head you walk around it. its on another youtube clip.
The future of movies How cool
It would be fun to play video games on it.
Isn't this just standard projector images on glass?
The next generation cinema
this is so f..ing cool