Imagine being an alcoholic, with fatty liver disease, then quitting the booze. You reverse the disease, and then a doctor tells you that quitting booze didn’t really help you, because if you go back on it, your disease will come back…
I just turned 52, started carnivore on 6/1/23. I was morbidly obese for 30 years. I've lost 55lbs so far, reversed my pre-diabetes, improved my mood dramatically, and feel like I'm aging backwards. If I drop dead of a heart attack a few years early, at least I got to actually LIVE my life and feel great doing it instead of existing in a foggy, depressed, practically vegetative state just waiting to die.
Good for you. You definitely have decreased the likelihood of dropping dead of a heart attack, or any cardiovascular disease and of cancer- especially if you stick with it and stay active.
@@makaisenki I would ask (yell) at my wife to stop suggesting helpful things. It has to be done safely under a Dr's care. When you first go into keto hypomania often happens.
May I ask when you say you 'are no longer insulin resistant' are you saying that you can pass a glucose test and that your body's insulin is working in sensitive mode? What were your identifiers / markers? I ask because I can't seem to find the answers to when you know your no longer insulin resistant. Thanks
I actually worked with Mastering Diabetes with Cyrus in the video for a year. I became depressed tired and weak after 6 months. I worked in small groups with a coach, I lost some weight but it was so stressful having my insulin going way up and way down. I’m going to work with someone to help me go keto soon to get straightened out. I’ve started eating meat again and am feeling better already.
The Mastering Diabetes approach works for many people but the process of insulin sensitization is too slow to be good enough for some others. The Glucose Goddess approach of managing the glucose fluctuations is a complementary approach that I combine, so you can get results faster without having to go keto, which in the long terms is going to increase insulin resistance.
@@susanresig8452Hi Susan. I'm a type2 diabetic. I started off trying keto to lose weight. That didn't work for me. Then I went to ketovore/carnivore and the weight finally started coming off. When I totally eliminated all fruit and most vegetables (keeping only lowest carb/low oxilate veggies in my diet) the weight started to come off. The weight loss has been slow and steady. I've lost over 75lbs and no longer need insulin injections. I still have more weight to lose, but am thrilled with my progress. I hope you give this way of eating a try as I'm certain it can help you too. Best wishes to you.👋🕊🌺
I must be defying science , because I am full carnivore and feel great I have gone from being obese to nearly at my ideal weight. My mental health has improved and my wife says my mood has changed and I am now very relaxed. I am 58 years old and I'm not on any meds.
Dr. Westman is a true saint in this space and in this world. Who else puts out this kind of quality content that's coherent and so easily digestible? I can work and listen to him all day! Keep up the excellent work Dr. Westman. ❤
This one made me laugh out loud. I followed Dr Westman’s advice for the last 3 years. I lost 45 lbs, got off all my meds, all the metabolic numbers are great. I’m never going back. No crickets for me. Bravo to the good Doctor!
I have been doing keto pretty consistently for 4 years. I am literally NEVER hungry and can fast for 2 days with no effort. At 78, 6’2”, 180lbs, resting pulse of 60bpm, BP 130/80. I feel great and plan on being active at 100 (healthy gut bugs).
Thank you, Dr Westman. A friend of my brother had a poster in his apartment: "When you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull****." I guess you could also say "When you can't educate them with science and reason., numb them with menacing hyperbole."
You can tell the truth or you can scare them with lies. It's hard to admit that everything you told people for years are kinda backed by inferences with scientific methodology... This guy has zero understanding of autophagy. He can't possibly make his arguments with autophagy on the table.
@@makaisenki Vegans can not fast. Not even for 8 hours. They must graze. Have 7 or more meals a day. I’m picturing the hobbits. With second breakfast, and third, and fourth. I guess it about a three hour fast is all they can do. Having no fat… no animal fat to satiate the body with. Its no wonder the vegan lifestyle is ALWAYS a failure.
46:24 people who eat a high carbohydrate diet risk nonalcoholic fatty liver (now leading cause for liver transplants in US) hypertension, type 2 diabetes, amputation of limps, kidney failure leading to premature death, this knowledge keeps me on the keto diet.
What makes me sad is some of my long-time friends, good people, believe ketosis is bad. They eat every 4 or 5 hours, and may drink coffee with sugar in between. Sometimes when I visit them I bring my own food. They will munch on pizza and tell me that I am the one eating a bad diet, as I eat fish or eggs that I brought from home.
well done - your results and success might change their minds - I lost weight / insulin use dropped / BP dropped / blood tests improves and after about 7 months my wife joined keto and is now free of diabetes / lost weight / 1/2 BP meds - the low carb keto community can change the world one person at a time - be interesting if your friends are overweight / insulin resistant or diabetic and have high BP - we know that the day of reckoning is coming for them
Neither results nor success will change their minds. They are addicts. They'll tell you how great you look, at least ten years younger. They will compliment your stamina and express envy for you never being sick or angry. They will ask you what the secret is. And then, they want to buy you a soda. Come on, what's one soda going to do, live a little. It's tragic. It really is. I wish I could sell discipline. Got tons of it. Other people... I tried keto for five days, it didn't work. Back to McDonald's, let's celebrate ... Something. My own wife is spending hundreds of euros per quarter for meds she wouldn't need, if she wouldn't eat all that junk. But, she needs it. It's comforting for her. Full-blown addict. No amount of reasoning is going to change that.
I deal with the same. I eat a hard-boiled egg and they're eating a cinnamon roll. But I'm the one eating wrong? It's frustrating when we can't help people we love.
@@hazeldavis3176 It becomes even worse when you almost feel pain, seeing people suffer, trying diets and fail, following strict workouts, and don't progress, never reaching their full potential. Many put in much more effort than I do. I've had a cinnamon roll recently. Funny that you mention that. It was glorious. I'm good for a few weeks now. And then I'll have a big tub of ice cream, or something. I do enjoy the lure of food-drugs, and sometimes I'll give in. But it's always an event. I'll never ignore a wedding cake either. It's still all available. I've taken a few weeks off, and ate whatever my wife ate. It was very enjoyable. Just not daily, and forever. I wish I could make them feel how I feel for just one day. The energy, the positive outlook, the knowing of what my body wants and needs. Waking up, being constantly all there. The body temperature, I never shiver or feel cold. less sweating, less, erm, well, it is important, pooping, and it its... kinda clean, more endurance and an urge to work out. They would clean out the pantry and never look back.
When I retired I was 6'2" and hitting 295 pounds. I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and high cholesterol and in chronic pain from arthritis. I started eating healthy and exercising regularly and dropped 35 pounds in the first year. I have been on a Keto diet for 18 months now. I dropped another 55 pounds. My bloodwork came back as excellent, and my doctor stated that he had never witnessed such a turn around. With the weight loss my arthritis improved considerably as well as my sleep patterns. I monitor everything I can and track the progress. I can honestly say I have never felt better.
Thank you Dr Westman, I watch this man before and felt very confused. I appreciate people like yourself talking about the facts! False speeches need to be called out!❤
The guy reminds me of Dunning Kruger effect. I think he is in that "peak" stage and affects his reasoning. I am in my first week of keto and I cannot believe that my cravings vanished! I follow Dr. Westman, Dr Fung, Dr Ekberg and Dr Berg in my journey.
Dr. Westman, you are the consumate "gentleman and scholar" when it comes to the fields of nutrtion and metaboic health and challenging misleading "plant-based" dogma. Please continue your outstanding "Dr. Westman Reacts" videos so that we can make the best decisions to prolong our lives. Amen!
Thank you for posting. Ive been a Type1 diabetic for 50 years. I started carnivore 7 months ago. It’s such a game changer for me Its like a new world for me.
As someone that took T2 meds for years and only getting worst, but then switching to clean keto and lowered my A1C from 8.8 to 5.4.... I think meatbase is my PHD
I am a 74 yr old female, feel so much better then I have in years, Since 2015 myxona tumor heart surgery, PE,. Srarted Keto eating , in 2020, feel better then I did before the heart surgery, my brain fog is gone, fibromyalgia is much improved, to almost non-existent. Keto has improved my life.
Wait a minute. My dog was on a carb diet with rice for his ibs and he was overweight and fat no matter how much I limit d his food intake. Now, if I’m supposed to take lessons from my dog, here’s what I learned: I switched my dog to carnivore diet (with a lower fat in take because high fat does cause pancreatitis in dogs - unlike humans), and my dog lost weight and gained muscle. His skin cleared up and his fur became beautiful again. His tumors shrank. Wow, thanks to my dog, I learned to eat carnivore! Thank you to my dog
I also noticed that there are hardly any fat carnivorous species of animals. Contrast that to the numerous fat plant-eaters (cattle, elefant, hippo, rhino etc.). Of course, this also has to do with the amount of food they find and how much they move, but at least it shows that "eating plants makes you thinner" is a misconception. Even the panda bear is fatter than the meat-eating bears!
I admire your patience. This person is not delivering a scientific comparison, he is on a narrative to promote his ideas. The certainty with which he states his convictions is very misleading and may be dangerous for people who are trying to find the lifestyle that is best for them.
@@Maintain_Decorum I don't think he is funded by them. Dr. Westman thinks he's being intentionally misleading, but I get the sense that he isn't. I think he really is this stupid.
Fantastic takedown, in the most gentlemanly way possible. He looks so sincere whilst telling blatant lie after blatant lie. You clobbered his alarmist malarkey with sane, factual and consummate professionalism. Bravo sir!
I've already eaten the plant based diet and was sick for years. Now that I've been eating the lion diet I'm so much healthier. My blood work is great and my cholesterol is high like it should be. No more inflammation or gerd. I feel the best I've ever felt ever. I'm so glad the animals I eat already have eaten the plants for me and give me All of the nutrients I need without the harmful effects of plants
_"... and my cholesterol is high like it should be."_ I believe you're correct. I think the recommended max is kept low to encourage the sale of profitable statins.
@@Andrew-hx9tz: _"I have never seen data that shows that high cholesterol is good."_ If you want to see it, find Dr.Ekberg's video where he eats 100 eggs in a week. In that video he discussed a study out or S.Korea with a cohort of millions of people. It has a graph that shows hazard ratio vs cholesterol. Can't remember the numbers but the hazard minima is way above what doctors prescribe statins for. And the low low numbers that statins drive cholesterol down to are actually dangerous.
I don't agree with anything he says (he is frankly an idiot), but he has the appearance of having a genetic abnormality and that may be unrelated to his diet and opinions.
He's a Type 1 diabetic who suffered from Hashimoto"s thyroiditis and alopecia, causing loss of hair, including his eyebrows. All this happened before he learned he was diabetic. He chose to go to graduate school to learn about his condition and help others. I think he's very well-intentioned , as is Dr. Westman.
If there’s one thing I’ve learned in 75 yrs of living, it’s to never listen to any doctor for nutritional advice. Yes they spend years studying but almost none of it focuses on nutrition. They know no more or less than your or I. Ditto for the media. Do your own research. Come to your own conclusions.
I hope that ideological creep Cyrus & other predatory misleaders like him get slapped with lawsuits from clients & Keto experts for malpractice, fraudulent information, malicious inflammatory, & physical injury.
I am not in any medical field and just from last 10 years or learning and trying to be diligent , it is mind blowing that this gentleman is a Phd and I seen consistent inconsistencies that felt entry level to even my knowledge . It’s really sad . Ty for the content and it is current and very well explained and sensible to understand . I like your demeanor while debating even while holding back frustration and concern for untruthful medical comments that could harm us enjoying the content .
Technically speaking! Thank you Dr. Westman for clearing up each point. I feel great eating low carb/keto and have reversed my T2 Diabetes, lost 50 lbs and feel better at 65 than ever before.
I have to say, I was on a low fat diet and I ended up with type 2 Diabetes went low carb diet and I feel so much better, now I am trying to help my family do better with their health Thanks Dr Westman
He doesn’t just believe it, he has a program to sell that says so. He and his buddy, Robbie, sell access to their misinformation and show diabetics how not to reverse their deadly disease.
63 and the healthiest I have ever been on Keto / carnivore diet. Tired of the recent UA-cam push against healthy eating advice and promotion of big Pharma lies
Me too, quality over quantity. However my GP told me yesterday that I am at a high risk of having a heart attack because my LDL has gone up on low carb, with all my other blood test results being good and no longer insulin resistant. BTW I'm 65 with a recent CAC score of zero!
Dr. Westman is right. I’m from the Philippines. I do IF and i also do longer fast like 72 hrs once a month, i’m alao an advocate of lowcarb and carnivore diet and i always get so much energy even when i don’t eat. My thoughts are focused and calm, everything is just so damn excellent without any carb or sugar.
So basically what's he's saying is: although keto puts diabetes into remission, you shouldn't do it because all your pets make insulin. Yeah, that's logical.🤦♀
If he wants to compare us to the neighbour’s cat, well… cats are obligate carnivores! So much for that argument. Bears are omnivores, rabbits are herbivores. Even our closest relatives are omnivores. Chimpanzees are known to catch animals for the meat. The argument is fallacious.
Yes cats do produce insulin. I cared for a diabetic cat years ago which included giving him insulin twice a day. The grain filled kibble crud was the cause. I had to feed him mashed pumpkin for the fibre which I now see was part of the problem.
I remember our endocrinology professor (she promotes the low fat diet) explaining diabetes type 2 to us and referring to Insulin as the "fat storage hormone".
I am so thankful for the members of the medical community who know about and understand low carb and are sharing their knowledge and experience so freely so that we can learn and make informed decisions. A big thank you to you all.
Thank you Dr. Westman for this video. I appreciate your knowledge and your gentle approach to correcting the record of the low carb diet. I have been doing keto for approximately 10 months and I have seen so many positive effects, weight loss, mental clarity, etc.
Let's not forget Dr Bernstein's experience, over many decades. If not officially keto, he's been low carb for decades and, as a type 1 diabetic, he still has amazing health. Safe and effective over more than 40 years now.
I’m a 75 year old retired RN , was pre diabetic , with weight problem , with osteoarthritis with multiple orthopedic surgeries ( partial knee replacement, reconstructive foot surgeries,left and right) and went on Keto diet and intermittent fasting after listening to Dr Sten Ekberg , Dr Ken Berry , Dr Eric Berg and Dr Eric Westman . I lost over 30 lbs over 3-4 months and my AIC went down from 6.3 to 5.7 . I must admit that when I’m out with friends I eat a little more carbs . But when at home , I am strictly on Keto diet and on 16/8 IF or on OMAD . I take magnesium and other supplements also . I feel so much better and more active now! Thank you so much !
Thanks, Dr. Westman for doing these fact-checks. I've been on a low-carb diet for about 8 months now. It is amazing. I feel great and have lost 50lbs. Maybe this isn't for everyone but I enjoy the foods I'm able to eat. The guy here spouting off against a low-carb diet simply does not understand insulin. Dr. Westman puts him in his place.
I finally hit my stride on a keto diet (bought a ketone meter and found a couple things that were tripping me up, and I wasn’t getting enough salt at first). My hunger is so low that I accidentally missed a whole day, then started alternate-daily fasting because I feel so good fasted. I have more energy than I know what to do with, especially 24-40 hours fasted; I was always fatigued and lethargic before, so that benefit alone would be worth doing keto for me even without the weight loss. 25lbs down, 70ish to go.
I stopped eating carbohydrates, I started eating a huge amount of fat. My fatty liver healed, my A1C is 4.8, I lost 70 lbs... I'll stick with fat. Does this guy work for Kellogg or something?
Dr Westman I have been following your genius for years, starting through Diet Doctor,and continue to learn from you. I no longer have high BP, no pre diabetes, only hyperthyroidism. Will never go back to SAD. Don’t want the eye trouble either which I stopped progression in on cutting out seed oils. You are a wonderful doctor. God Bless you!
This guy (Cyrus) said that being type 1 diabetic was actually good for him and that he wouldn't change that fact if he could. This should make anyone and everyone to take WHATEVER he says with utmost suspicion.
That big list he showed, about adverse health effects, are for people on the SAD diet. I’ve been carnivore nearly six years. Most of that list were problems that eating a high fat, zero carb diet, actually fixed. The rest are things that I show no signs of having, and all my markers in those ares show improved health. With zero drawbacks.
The lying plant based doctor hasn't explained why all these people on his SAD diet over the past 55 years are in the worst health we've been in human history. They don't want a mostly healthy population because that would put him out of work and kill big Pharma, the people who pay him to continue to prescribe their meds. This goes for the AMA and universities who are financed by big pharma.
My immediate impression of this young man was "Is he vegan or vegetarian? Cause he looks sickly to me." and that impression was correct. It has nothing to do with his alopecia, it is the overall complexion.
That is not biased at all *cough*, because he is on the opposite camp. The truth is that diabetes is reversed by calorie restriction. That‘s why both approaches work. One is full of saturated fat though. One is missing B12. One you can supplement. The other one is difficult to avoid. By the way diabetes type 1 is a totally different disease then type 2. Type 2 is completely avoidable by not overeating. Type 1 is mostly genetic. For type 1 blood sugar control is way more important then type 2. Going keto on type 1 takes a lot of guts, since ketosis can turn potentially into diabetic ketoacidosis, since type 1 diabetics are totally dependent on the insulin they inject. Medications like jardiance are not allowed for type 1, because they lead to ketosis and increase the risk for ketoacidosis. By the way they are both telling half truths. Ketones are an emergency fuel for the brain, since it can‘t run on fatty acids. It can not run on ketones either. Only 70% can and it prefers glucose. Ketosis is a natural state of nutrition that is part of fasting periods and can be healthy. But is not designed to be a permanent state. It‘s a survival mechanism. Short term ketosis might improve certain cognitive functions. But long term over several years? We don‘t know. We will see. I stick with IF induced ketosis short term. While he is right that you always can change if you don‘t feel good on the diet, he leaves out the factors you can‘t feel like arteriosclerosis. Risk is cumulative. The longer your LDL or ApoB is high, the higher your cardiovascular risk. Unfortunately you can‘t undo that. You only can prevent the risk even becoming higher. If this diet increases ApoB, which it does for a great number of people, you should consider it is not for you and try something else. Insulin is not a storage hormone. That guy is correct. It transports energy delivering molecules into cells to be burned. If the energy is not needed right now, those molecules get stored. If it is stored or not has nothing to do with insulin. It‘s correct though that glucose or fat can‘t be stored if it is swimming around in the blood stream. But we don‘t want that. Insulin does not make you fat. The sugar and fat that is already in your bloodstream does. If you are diabetic type 2 and inject insulin, blood sugar goes down and since the energy is not needed, otherwise there would be no type 2 diabetes, gets stored as fat. But if you stop overeating, go into caloric deficit, the body will use up stored energy, cells are not full anymore and become insulin sensitive again, despite insulin. Insulin injection is not the problem. In fact this guy needs it to live. Low insulin is as dangerous as high insulin. Too stable insulin is bbad, since it decreases metabolic flexibility and glucose tolerance, greatly unstable insulin levels do just the same. It does not matter how many carbs you eat or how much fat. Cells that are full become insulin resistant. It‘s the caloriels. High insulin and high blood sugar is a symptom not a cause of insulin resistance. Both are wrong again. Check neutral sources. What he does not say is how glucagon keeps blood sugar stable. It triggers gluconeogenesis. Gluconeogenesis mostly happens out of proteins. So you are constantly, since you are low carb, using up your protein in order to keep your blood glucose from falling to low, which is very dangerous. It’s also funny how somebody that does not have a natural insulin response telling others that the natural insulin response can be very high as well. No. If the insulin response is high it is pathologic. You have higher levels of glucose intolerance and need to loose fat tissue. How much fat tissue your body can tolerate before cells become glucose intolerant is individual. Funny also that both of them don‘t mention that protein has an insulin response too. That kind of messes up the logic behind low carb, because it‘s usually high protein as well, if the primary goal is no insulin response. Ketones can not power the brain entirely, it still needs glucose. That the brain runs on ketones is a false statement. If the body could make glucose from fatty acids, there would be no need of ketones. Creating glucose directly from a fatty acid is impossible for the body. This is a false statement he makes. Protein is used. Both are only telling part of the whole picture. Denying any side effects of your favorite diet is a typical side of bias. Inflating the side effects and overgeneralizing is also one. Both again are biased. The all case mortality also has been found by newer studies and in meta analysises. The vegan guy is right about insulin sensitivity. If you want to assess insulin sensitivity, you do that by performing an glucose tolerance test and not only look at fasting glucose. Eating a low carb meal does not test that. The main function of insulin is to transport glucose into cells. If that ability is diminished you are insulin resistance. He also talks about high animal protein and does not even listened to the argument. I‘ve read the study about high protein, IGF-1 and cancer risk, and how your optimal protein level and source depends on age. In mid life the optimal animal protein level is low, while in younger and older people it should be higher. No mention of kidney function nor elimination of animal protein from the diet. It‘s amazing how the conclusions are distorted here. Lol fat burning causes more oxidative stress then glucose burning? Glucose also can be burned without the presence of oxygen while fat simply can‘t. The studies are mixed about it though,so not significant evidence for his claim. Furthermore keto does not change the effect of protein in any way or form. Nonsense argument , because he has none. It is strange that he jumps to safety when the topic is effectiveness. It is because keto has shown no benefits in comparison to other whole food diets in terms of weight loss and metabolic markers, but even worse in terms of cholesterol. That the keto diet would be FDA approved is a strange statement to make when the long term effects of medications are assessed after approval by phase 4 clinical trials.😂😂 He is not wrong there. Low carb is not better then low fat for weight loss nor diabetes reversal. That statement is not true. There is no significant evidence to support that. It‘s also funny that both of them claim the studies they don‘t like as weak evidence. Gross misinterpretation of the women’s health study by the way to use it for his argument. Wow is he seriously proposing using social media groups and anecdotal evidence before actual scientific studies? Both are so biased and that‘s why it is very ironic what he is saying about bias. Look at neutral sources. I know it is hard to find one. But this is not it, I assure you.
@@hexada_ghostemane My point exactly. In simple terms: Cells can not accept more glucose when they are already full and overloaded. Insulin resistance is a safety mechanism of the cells. You reverse it by emptying the cells and they are no longer overloaded. It has 0 to do with carbs. It can be done with a high fiber low fat diet. There are reported cases. Not saying that it would be the optimal diet to do this, but it is not done by keeping blood insulin or blood sugar low. Only weight loss improves the condition and potentially lead to remission. My grandpa is on his best way, he lost lot‘s of weight and thus reduced his medication big time despite his soda drinking habits.(Not saying I like that) He just does it less. Diabetes also is not caused by high blood glucose or high insulin levels. Those are the result of diabetes. The cause is insulin resistance in the cells.
I realised I was addicted to carbs about 25 years ago, but could see no method that I thought I could stick to, and no life structure that allowed any kind of cut-back (due to my job mostly). I peaked in weight in 2014 (around 235 lbs) but was jobless poor for a year, then got a job with lots of walking, but still rubbish pay. I lost about a 10 lbs, then got a good job and was adding weight again. When carnivore came up on my radar in 2018 it seemed ideal in that I knew it would fit with my life better than anything previously considered, but it took time to understand what foods I wanted etc. I lost 30 lbs but struggled at 205 to drop lower due to the addiction whispering on my shoulder too well. I've been yoyo-ing from 200 to 215 but mostly around 205, due to "cheat days" etc. I've been more strict in the last few months and just saw the scales say 192 for the first time since 2008ish. Still 20 lbs to go to top end of ideal weight. I do want to see what that is like this time. Just need to keep the whispering devils off my shoulder when life hits hard, for that is when the devils have power.
THANK YOU.We all need someone to critique the critique or those misleading statements by people with other agendas can really harm the health of many people.
Thanks Dr. Westman. How painful it must have been to review this. He totally lost me talking about injecting too much insulin? As if your pancreas doesn't inject too much insulin if you eat too many carbohydrates? I will continue the keto lifestyle, and monitor my health accordingly with my primary care semi-annually. However, I couldn't tolerate all of this review, although I am grateful you did it! God bless you! I'm 61 and down 25 lbs. this year and feeling great. I have about 30 more to lose, so about another 30 weeks or so and I should be about where I want to be. Thanks for all the good info you put out there on keto, and for debunking the "keto debunkers".
Looks really ill - I feel sorry for him. Enjoying keto. Lost weight and I am back to pre-children weight (25 years ago). Feel fantastic. Of all meds and very happy. The best news is that my wedding ring (which I haven’t been able to wear for many years) now fits as I have lost so much weight. If plants work for some - fine - but don’t try and scare people into coming off keto
You would have lost weight if you cut out any macro nutrient. I'm glad you lost weight but it's not ketosis. It's caloric intake. Keto just happens to be a more manageable form of caloric deficit for you. I just want to make sure people aren't over inflating the reality of these things.
@@Andrew-hx9tz Your knowledge of how humans chemically turn food into energy is lacking. We are not little furnaces. It is a series of complex hormone driven biochemical processes. Different forms of matter get converted to energy differently. Some make tissues, some make energy, some go into storage, and some are excreted. If you change what type of calories you consume you can change the number of them that get stored.
@@DigitalSteel I need more than your word. If you are going to make claims that counter the vast consensus then you need to provide some extraordinary evidence.
@@Andrew-hx9tzI don't think you understand what a vast consensus is, because if you did, you would not be making nonsensical claims. Do you really think if I eat 2000 calories of steak that the outcome will be the same as if I ate 2000 calories of cake? These things have radically different compositions, and are not even remotely used the same way in the Krebs Cycle or any other metabolic process. You talk about extraordinary evidence, and yet you come up to the conversation with a grade school level of apparent education on the matter... It is always the uneducated that think the answer is so simple because they only have a simple and lacking understanding to begin with.
I recently watched a video comparing keto and plant based. They said they had similar results in both diets after 1 year. I Have done keto and attempted vegan again. I lasted 3 days. My blood sugars were on rollercoaster. I had to stop. Returning to keto. I can stick with keto.
Well he already has a video on eggs^^ which I didn't watch but I'm sure the suggestion is to switch to something else chick related to save your life. To chick peas
I was vegan for 7 years and it helped for a little bit but it wasn't sustainable.. I eventually became less plant based and more pasta based because my body craved calories, it absolutely wrecked my gut health but a wake up call a year later came when I had to take antibiotics for an ear infection which led to candida and lots of other gut issues ... the only thing that helped is cutting out potatoes, grains , and incorporating meat . T
You’re an awesome doctor ! I had a pro keto doctor My blood work was perfect. He went into mens health unfortunately for me. Now I’m having trouble finding a doctor who is pro keto They all seem afraid to venture beyond the books. Thank you for your video
I was suffering from hypertrophic arthritis. I went to keto diet 4 months ago and the results was immense ! I no longer tired in the after noon and my joints are no longer swollen. I just feel so great. And i lost 5 kilos ! I wont ever go back to conventional diet, never !
Hi my name is Emma and i'm a sugarholic ...or was. I am thankful for the keto guidelines for food intake. When I ate a lot of sugar and carbs every 2 hours I was starving and I would panic for food Now, after a few months, the hunger is different. It comes and I'm annoyed that I have to think about eating. I am so glad I can look at keto long-term.
THANK YOU Dr Westman!!! My sister is a vegan and is totally convinced that it is the best diet for every single person on the planet. I’m a type 1 (actually LADA) diabetic and she saw Cyru Khambatta’s presentation of his book with co-author Robbie Barbard advocating a plant-based diet for all types of diabetics, including type 1 & LADA (type 1.5). So my sister is on a crusade to save my health. She knows that I’ve been doing a low-carb diet, but it just eats her up that I willingly eat meat. I’ve skimmed Cyrus Khambatta’s book: Mastering Diabetes and have watched a few of his UA-cam presentations and interviews. I read many of the comments on his UA-cam videos and discovered a large number of people to disagree with him. He advocates eating a lot of fruit and avoiding fat, especially saturated fat. In my own experience following a low carb diet has improved my diabetes control and lowered the amount of insulin I need. My last HbA1c was 6.3 and it was 6.0 a year ago. My triglycerides were 52 and HDL was 59.
What u r describing is a personality trait. The obnoxious sibling has good intentions just like the fundamentalist christians and the Amway fools. Some people are very suggestible and it's a bad quality for a modern person.
I usually eat around 800 cal of high-quality animal fat per day, which doesn't change my blood glucose, but if I eat 100 cal of some sugary carbohydrate, it sends it up very quickly. I'm a 79-year-old male, and if I had followed the logic that he talks about, I think the only way you could visit me is to go out to my tombstone. Thank goodness there are people like Dr. Westman who call this guy out on some of the misinformation he's putting out. Because you know what, there's a lot of people out there that love to eat donuts and cakes and cookies, and oh, they taste so good even when you're full and really not hungry; they're such a great form of entertainment, and if you can get some nut like this to say oh you're actually doing something healthy they want to believe that because they want to keep doing what they're doing. As Dr. Phil would say, how's that working for Ya!!!!!!!!!
I am considered a skinny person but when I started losing weight for no apparent reason, I was diagnosed with diabetes with a HbA1C of 13.1%, I had oral medication (icluding Sulfonylureas) and insulin injection as treatment. I followed the nutritionist guide and tested my blood glucose religiously and I'm utterly fearful of where I'm heading. Then I adopted a low carb diet and dropped into hypoglycemia occasionally and began to wean off most of my medication. For the past 1 year, my HbA1C was holding at 5.9%. My lipids are better as well, my blood pressure hovers around 120/70 and has gone from 48kg to 59kg as per my last medical exam. No more daily insulin injections and only a couple of Metformin a day for now. But my eyesight and nerves were damaged by diabetes, I hope to recover but progress had being slow.
what i find odd is, he demonizes table sugar when that is converted to glucose, but a potato is somehow a different type of glucose. well it's half glucose and half fructose. but he loves to eat fruit. "fructose"
Well I am 75 and I do a mixture of diets that are talked about here on you tube. I eat mainly whole foods/drinks mentioned from those diets (both meats and veggies, etc) and stay away from processed foods and other things mentioned. I eat 3 light meals a day where the most I eat is lunch. I do no snacks in between. I also do some exercising during the day, more during the summertime. I keep my weight down by doing this. I continue to listen to videos like this to pick up information about foods. Thanks for the video.
Anytime someone tells you not to eat a proper human diet of wholefoods and animals products, run away from them even if they are your primary care physician. They don't have your best interests at heart.
All the evidence I need came from two sources - one, never met a healthy vegan/vegetarian - I don't mean people who went that way recently, I mean the long term ones. They look weak and sickly and often have unpredictable mental states/mood swings. That is my experience.... two, I tried going mostly-vegg for a few months. And things did not improve. Low carb has served me well - although I will admit, that once in a while, I feel better if I 'goose' my system with carbs - makes my muscles feel better... I am talking once or twice a week. Not everyday.
I have the same issue! I am low weight 112 and if I eat no carbs gor 3 days I start to feel so weird and it's not good. But if I eat just a few carbs it takes that away. Don't know what it is...
@@marthalewis173because you are not fat adapted and still sugar addicted, you havnt given your body time to switch its metabolic fuel source. Could take a month at least.
I've reversed my T2 diabetes, lowered my A1c by over 2.0 to 5.9,, gotten myself off of 6 diabetic medications and have lost over 100lbs by eating a ketogenic menu. I count all carbs and eat under 50 carbs per day with most days under 40 carbs. Keto works. Also I am now able to be much more physically active than I was two years ago and a year ago. As my weight goes off my activity level increases and my energy level is so good now I can work steady for hours. This in turn contributes to my overall health improvement. Dr Khambatta says that he hears many people believe that "insulin resistance is caused by insulin itself". This is ridiculous. I don't believe this nor have I ever heard other advisors on the ketogenic diet say something even like this. I'm wondering who he is speaking with? The Ketogenic food pyramid is also a bit humorous. Dr Westman says "triangle?". Yes, more of a triangle I guess...
I had an interesting thought at 38:00 after the piece about making fat out of carbs. The vegans often say "look at that large animal that got so big from grass/plants", well my thought was has any vegan wondered where those animals that we love to eat got all that fat from? Those animals eat almost zero dietary fat yet we love to eat them for the fat because it is such a compact, dense and optimized form of energy.
They actually do get fat from fat (well, unless grain fed) since the fiber is turned into fats by the bacteria in their digestive system, which are then used by the animals, though grass fed are generally leaner than grain fed. I don't know of any big animals that live off carbs in nature, it's always fat
@@defeqel6537 "Technically True" 😂 I know but it was just a funny thought and something I think should be brought up much more - that glucose is mostly stored as fat and only a small amount of glucose is readily available from muscle.
@@defeqel6537They don’t EAT fat but transform the carbohydrates into all needed nutrients for themselves. Fat, protein and all other necessary nutrients.
@@defeqel6537 The geese that is raised for foi gras are fed a very low fat diet of corn and syrup. Not far from the "food" that receive "heart healthy" labels when containing mostly non essential macronutrients.
At 58:02 this Cyrus guy talks about the content of a ketogenic diet including "vegetable oil". Since when? If anything, all of the seed oils are barred from a ketogenic diet.
I have been Keto for almost 15 years. Went Keto when my wife started having joint problems. I talked her into going on a no carb diet to lose wait. We cleaned the kitchen of carbs and we both ate very low carb (about 20 grams a day). She lost weight. Her joints stopped hurting. I lost 30 lbs as well. And we are both much happier. The only issue is that we still drink wine and get drunk faster. Other than that we are fine. And we drink only cabs and only twice a week. After a drinking night we fast for 18 hours to work off the alcohol. We have both done C-scans to detect calcium in our arteries. Both of us have a score of zero.
you are one af the heroes helping people 🙏
sorry for the spelling error
He is.
In Australia we would call this brown-nosing, but Westman seems to like it as he has pinned it. 🤨
He looks like a cancer patient 😮
He is healthy. That’s how he normally looks like.
Imagine being an alcoholic, with fatty liver disease, then quitting the booze. You reverse the disease, and then a doctor tells you that quitting booze didn’t really help you, because if you go back on it, your disease will come back…
Spot on.
Good analogy.
Clever analogy
🎯
👏 👏 👏
I just turned 52, started carnivore on 6/1/23. I was morbidly obese for 30 years. I've lost 55lbs so far, reversed my pre-diabetes, improved my mood dramatically, and feel like I'm aging backwards. If I drop dead of a heart attack a few years early, at least I got to actually LIVE my life and feel great doing it instead of existing in a foggy, depressed, practically vegetative state just waiting to die.
I second that! ❤
Good for you. You definitely have decreased the likelihood of dropping dead of a heart attack, or any cardiovascular disease and of cancer- especially if you stick with it and stay active.
My low carb diet got my blood pressure down so much I could quit my medication. I have more energy, no longer have diarrhea or bloating.
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🤗☺️🙏🏼
Keto was an emergency for me! And I love it. 8 months in. Feeling great. No longer insulin resistance. No more bipolar symptoms!
My wife is schizophrenic and bipolar but she refuses to keto. Wish I could help her but she doesn't want to help herself.
@@makaisenki the diet only works for some people with schizophrenia, not all. Everyone needs to find their own way.
@@makaisenki I feel for you both. It feels hopeless at times because it's like the illness is happening to you and the meds don't always help enough.
@@makaisenki I would ask (yell) at my wife to stop suggesting helpful things. It has to be done safely under a Dr's care. When you first go into keto hypomania often happens.
May I ask when you say you 'are no longer insulin resistant' are you saying that you can pass a glucose test and that your body's insulin is working in sensitive mode? What were your identifiers / markers? I ask because I can't seem to find the answers to when you know your no longer insulin resistant. Thanks
I actually worked with Mastering Diabetes with Cyrus in the video for a year. I became depressed tired and weak after 6 months. I worked in small groups with a coach, I lost some weight but it was so stressful having my insulin going way up and way down. I’m going to work with someone to help me go keto soon to get straightened out. I’ve started eating meat again and am feeling better already.
Watch Dr Westman talk about the Carnivore diet. It is way easier than Keto in my opinion
The Mastering Diabetes approach works for many people but the process of insulin sensitization is too slow to be good enough for some others.
The Glucose Goddess approach of managing the glucose fluctuations is a complementary approach that I combine, so you can get results faster without having to go keto, which in the long terms is going to increase insulin resistance.
Just cut out carbs and sugar and in three months you'll feel great. make keto bread if that is what you are worried about. It is simple and delicious.
@@brianmarshall7214 that’s a strange response to my comment. Did I say I was concerned about anything?
@@susanresig8452Hi Susan. I'm a type2 diabetic. I started off trying keto to lose weight. That didn't work for me. Then I went to ketovore/carnivore and the weight finally started coming off. When I totally eliminated all fruit and most vegetables (keeping only lowest carb/low oxilate veggies in my diet) the weight started to come off. The weight loss has been slow and steady. I've lost over 75lbs and no longer need insulin injections. I still have more weight to lose, but am thrilled with my progress. I hope you give this way of eating a try as I'm certain it can help you too. Best wishes to you.👋🕊🌺
I must be defying science , because I am full carnivore and feel great
I have gone from being obese to nearly at my ideal weight.
My mental health has improved and my wife says my mood has changed and I am now very relaxed.
I am 58 years old and I'm not on any meds.
Trust yourself. Not some big Pharma paid shill trying to keep us all as customers for as long as they can
Dr. Westman is a true saint in this space and in this world. Who else puts out this kind of quality content that's coherent and so easily digestible? I can work and listen to him all day! Keep up the excellent work Dr. Westman. ❤
This one made me laugh out loud.
I followed Dr Westman’s advice for the last 3 years. I lost 45 lbs, got off all my meds, all the metabolic numbers are great. I’m never going back. No crickets for me.
Bravo to the good Doctor!
He's all over the place
That’s why they are against it. They want your money to be spent on meds
I have been doing keto pretty consistently for 4 years. I am literally NEVER hungry and can fast for 2 days with no effort. At 78, 6’2”, 180lbs, resting pulse of 60bpm, BP 130/80. I feel great and plan on being active at 100 (healthy gut bugs).
Thank you for your comment! I'm just starting out and you are very inspiring
Adding years to your life,good work!
Thank you, Dr Westman. A friend of my brother had a poster in his apartment: "When you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull****." I guess you could also say "When you can't educate them with science and reason., numb them with menacing hyperbole."
You can tell the truth or you can scare them with lies.
It's hard to admit that everything you told people for years are kinda backed by inferences with scientific methodology...
This guy has zero understanding of autophagy. He can't possibly make his arguments with autophagy on the table.
Also make sure to say FACT a lot
I am absolutely going to quote you!
How are we supposed to sort truth from lies
@@makaisenki Vegans can not fast. Not even for 8 hours. They must graze. Have 7 or more meals a day. I’m picturing the hobbits. With second breakfast, and third, and fourth. I guess it about a three hour fast is all they can do. Having no fat… no animal fat to satiate the body with. Its no wonder the vegan lifestyle is ALWAYS a failure.
46:24 people who eat a high carbohydrate diet risk nonalcoholic fatty liver (now leading cause for liver transplants in US) hypertension, type 2 diabetes, amputation of limps, kidney failure leading to premature death, this knowledge keeps me on the keto diet.
What makes me sad is some of my long-time friends, good people, believe ketosis is bad. They eat every 4 or 5 hours, and may drink coffee with sugar in between. Sometimes when I visit them I bring my own food. They will munch on pizza and tell me that I am the one eating a bad diet, as I eat fish or eggs that I brought from home.
well done - your results and success might change their minds - I lost weight / insulin use dropped / BP dropped / blood tests improves and after about 7 months my wife joined keto and is now free of diabetes / lost weight / 1/2 BP meds - the low carb keto community can change the world one person at a time - be interesting if your friends are overweight / insulin resistant or diabetic and have high BP - we know that the day of reckoning is coming for them
Neither results nor success will change their minds. They are addicts.
They'll tell you how great you look, at least ten years younger. They will compliment your stamina and express envy for you never being sick or angry. They will ask you what the secret is.
And then, they want to buy you a soda. Come on, what's one soda going to do, live a little.
It's tragic. It really is.
I wish I could sell discipline. Got tons of it. Other people... I tried keto for five days, it didn't work. Back to McDonald's, let's celebrate ... Something.
My own wife is spending hundreds of euros per quarter for meds she wouldn't need, if she wouldn't eat all that junk. But, she needs it. It's comforting for her. Full-blown addict. No amount of reasoning is going to change that.
I deal with the same. I eat a hard-boiled egg and they're eating a cinnamon roll. But I'm the one eating wrong? It's frustrating when we can't help people we love.
@@hazeldavis3176 It becomes even worse when you almost feel pain, seeing people suffer, trying diets and fail, following strict workouts, and don't progress, never reaching their full potential. Many put in much more effort than I do.
I've had a cinnamon roll recently. Funny that you mention that. It was glorious. I'm good for a few weeks now. And then I'll have a big tub of ice cream, or something.
I do enjoy the lure of food-drugs, and sometimes I'll give in. But it's always an event. I'll never ignore a wedding cake either.
It's still all available. I've taken a few weeks off, and ate whatever my wife ate. It was very enjoyable.
Just not daily, and forever.
I wish I could make them feel how I feel for just one day. The energy, the positive outlook, the knowing of what my body wants and needs. Waking up, being constantly all there. The body temperature, I never shiver or feel cold. less sweating, less, erm, well, it is important, pooping, and it its... kinda clean, more endurance and an urge to work out. They would clean out the pantry and never look back.
@@notjustforme
Change to a direct comparison with alcohol or drug addicts.
When I retired I was 6'2" and hitting 295 pounds. I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and high cholesterol and in chronic pain from arthritis. I started eating healthy and exercising regularly and dropped 35 pounds in the first year. I have been on a Keto diet for 18 months now. I dropped another 55 pounds. My bloodwork came back as excellent, and my doctor stated that he had never witnessed such a turn around. With the weight loss my arthritis improved considerably as well as my sleep patterns. I monitor everything I can and track the progress. I can honestly say I have never felt better.
"Man, high blood sugar is bad, we should lower that."
*Goes carnivore*
"Noooo! Not like that!"
Thank you Dr Westman, I watch this man before and felt very confused. I appreciate people like yourself talking about the facts! False speeches need to be called out!❤
That guy politicized food and gives out dangerous advice. Looking at his eyes tells me enough.
You did a fantastic job, Dr Westman, of not just calling him an idiot or a moron!
lol
The guy reminds me of Dunning Kruger effect. I think he is in that "peak" stage and affects his reasoning.
I am in my first week of keto and I cannot believe that my cravings vanished! I follow Dr. Westman, Dr Fung, Dr Ekberg and Dr Berg in my journey.
Dr. Westman, you are the consumate "gentleman and scholar" when it comes to the fields of nutrtion and metaboic health and challenging misleading "plant-based" dogma. Please continue your outstanding "Dr. Westman Reacts" videos so that we can make the best decisions to prolong our lives. Amen!
Prolong you life doing Keto diet? Hehe you just shorten your life..
Thank you for posting. Ive been a Type1 diabetic for 50 years. I started carnivore 7 months ago. It’s such a game changer for me Its like a new world for me.
As someone that took T2 meds for years and only getting worst, but then switching to clean keto and lowered my A1C from 8.8 to 5.4.... I think meatbase is my PHD
Proper Human Diet?
congrats
Bravo🎉👏🏻
Thank You Doctor! The Young man twisted his way through his belief I'm glad you corrected him throughout his faults with Keto! 💞
I am a 74 yr old female, feel so much better then I have in years, Since 2015 myxona tumor heart surgery, PE,. Srarted Keto eating , in 2020, feel better then I did before the heart surgery, my brain fog is gone, fibromyalgia is much improved, to almost non-existent. Keto has improved my life.
Do you still enjoy sx
Wait a minute. My dog was on a carb diet with rice for his ibs and he was overweight and fat no matter how much I limit d his food intake. Now, if I’m supposed to take lessons from my dog, here’s what I learned:
I switched my dog to carnivore diet (with a lower fat in take because high fat does cause pancreatitis in dogs - unlike humans), and my dog lost weight and gained muscle. His skin cleared up and his fur became beautiful again. His tumors shrank.
Wow, thanks to my dog, I learned to eat carnivore! Thank you to my dog
I also noticed that there are hardly any fat carnivorous species of animals. Contrast that to the numerous fat plant-eaters (cattle, elefant, hippo, rhino etc.). Of course, this also has to do with the amount of food they find and how much they move, but at least it shows that "eating plants makes you thinner" is a misconception. Even the panda bear is fatter than the meat-eating bears!
I admire your patience. This person is not delivering a scientific comparison, he is on a narrative to promote his ideas. The certainty with which he states his convictions is very misleading and may be dangerous for people who are trying to find the lifestyle that is best for them.
Exactly
"he is on a narrative to promote his ideas"
he is promoting the big food industry which is making most people sick...
The agenda is the plant based diet agenda.
Maybe he’s funded by Coca-cola or McDonalds? 💰🥤🍔🍫
@@Maintain_Decorum I don't think he is funded by them. Dr. Westman thinks he's being intentionally misleading, but I get the sense that he isn't. I think he really is this stupid.
Fantastic takedown, in the most gentlemanly way possible.
He looks so sincere whilst telling blatant lie after blatant lie. You clobbered his alarmist malarkey with sane, factual and consummate professionalism. Bravo sir!
Agree. Well said.
I've already eaten the plant based diet and was sick for years. Now that I've been eating the lion diet I'm so much healthier. My blood work is great and my cholesterol is high like it should be. No more inflammation or gerd. I feel the best I've ever felt ever. I'm so glad the animals I eat already have eaten the plants for me and give me All of the nutrients I need without the harmful effects of plants
_"... and my cholesterol is high like it should be."_
I believe you're correct. I think the recommended max is kept low to encourage the sale of profitable statins.
Hear,hear couldn't have said it better myself☺
Can't make this shit up
@@KenJackson_USI have never seen data that shows that high cholesterol is good.
@@Andrew-hx9tz: _"I have never seen data that shows that high cholesterol is good."_
If you want to see it, find Dr.Ekberg's video where he eats 100 eggs in a week. In that video he discussed a study out or S.Korea with a cohort of millions of people. It has a graph that shows hazard ratio vs cholesterol.
Can't remember the numbers but the hazard minima is way above what doctors prescribe statins for. And the low low numbers that statins drive cholesterol down to are actually dangerous.
Dr Westman you deserve a medal for sitting though this. I got halfway then had enough !
He doesn’t look very healthy. I think I’ll stick with keto!
I don't agree with anything he says (he is frankly an idiot), but he has the appearance of having a genetic abnormality and that may be unrelated to his diet and opinions.
He's a Type 1 diabetic who suffered from Hashimoto"s thyroiditis and alopecia, causing loss of hair, including his eyebrows. All this happened before he learned he was diabetic. He chose to go to graduate school to learn about his condition and help others. I think he's very well-intentioned , as is Dr. Westman.
I know- he really looks sickly.... I hope he comes to his senses
i was afraid hes eyes would explode :-) -
It’s is very easy now to fix your thyroid issues especially the Hashimoto: EAT MEAT AND REPEAT🥩🍳🥓💪🏽
If there’s one thing I’ve learned in 75 yrs of living, it’s to never listen to any doctor for nutritional advice. Yes they spend years studying but almost none of it focuses on nutrition. They know no more or less than your or I. Ditto for the media. Do your own research. Come to your own conclusions.
Gawd! That was painful watching Cyrus twist truthful statements about keto into nonsense. Dr. Westman has more patience than I.
I hope that ideological creep Cyrus & other predatory misleaders like him get slapped with lawsuits from clients & Keto experts for malpractice, fraudulent information, malicious inflammatory, & physical injury.
Please check your racism / privilege, Diane!
@@Franklin-pc3xdhow is that statement in any way racism/privilege
@@Diesel-dog That, they or them, is for me to know and for you to find out, learn, and retain.
@@Franklin-pc3xd putrid take - grow up
I am not in any medical field and just from last 10 years or learning and trying to be diligent , it is mind blowing that this gentleman is a Phd and I seen consistent inconsistencies that felt entry level to even my knowledge . It’s really sad . Ty for the content and it is current and very well explained and sensible to understand . I like your demeanor while debating even while holding back frustration and concern for untruthful medical comments that could harm us enjoying the content .
Technically speaking! Thank you Dr. Westman for clearing up each point. I feel great eating low carb/keto and have reversed my T2 Diabetes, lost 50 lbs and feel better at 65 than ever before.
I have to say, I was on a low fat diet and I ended up with type 2 Diabetes went low carb diet and I feel so much better, now I am trying to help my family do better with their health
Thanks Dr Westman
Dr. Westman, your vast knowledge about the ketogenic diet makes you The GOAT against any type of Bias 😊🎉
It's "technically true" that Cyrus wants you to choose his plan and give him money.
I get the impression that he still believes only eating fat makes you fat, that carbs have nothing to do with it.
He doesn’t just believe it, he has a program to sell that says so. He and his buddy, Robbie, sell access to their misinformation and show diabetics how not to reverse their deadly disease.
But if that was true, then how would grass-fed cows ever get fat? I wonder if he ever considered that.
63 and the healthiest I have ever been on Keto / carnivore diet. Tired of the recent UA-cam push against healthy eating advice and promotion of big Pharma lies
I would rather die sooner and feeling good on Keto than live longer and feel like shit like I did on a low fat S.A.D.
don't worry. keto increases health and extends longevity.
Me too, quality over quantity. However my GP told me yesterday that I am at a high risk of having a heart attack because my LDL has gone up on low carb, with all my other blood test results being good and no longer insulin resistant. BTW I'm 65 with a recent CAC score of zero!
Dr. Westman is right. I’m from the Philippines. I do IF and i also do longer fast like 72 hrs once a month, i’m alao an advocate of lowcarb and carnivore diet and i always get so much energy even when i don’t eat. My thoughts are focused and calm, everything is just so damn excellent without any carb or sugar.
So basically what's he's saying is: although keto puts diabetes into remission, you shouldn't do it because all your pets make insulin. Yeah, that's logical.🤦♀
If he wants to compare us to the neighbour’s cat, well… cats are obligate carnivores! So much for that argument. Bears are omnivores, rabbits are herbivores. Even our closest relatives are omnivores. Chimpanzees are known to catch animals for the meat. The argument is fallacious.
Yes cats do produce insulin. I cared for a diabetic cat years ago which included giving him insulin twice a day. The grain filled kibble crud was the cause. I had to feed him mashed pumpkin for the fibre which I now see was part of the problem.
Thank you, Dr. Westman. I'm back on keto after a long absence. Watching your videos to get as many tips as possible.
Thank you Dr. Westman! Keto is healing my carotid arteries after a stroke. Tests prove they are clearing. I'm keto for life! life life life😊
Sweet!
Haha carb pun not intended 😅
I remember our endocrinology professor (she promotes the low fat diet) explaining diabetes type 2 to us and referring to Insulin as the "fat storage hormone".
I am so thankful for the members of the medical community who know about and understand low carb and are sharing their knowledge and experience so freely so that we can learn and make informed decisions. A big thank you to you all.
That was not available for the first 50 years of my life. One good thing about this Internet stuff. 🙏
@@ladycactus110 I'm now 66 so grew up with the low fat, high fibre mantra.
Thank you Dr. Westman for this video. I appreciate your knowledge and your gentle approach to correcting the record of the low carb diet. I have been doing keto for approximately 10 months and I have seen so many positive effects, weight loss, mental clarity, etc.
Let's not forget Dr Bernstein's experience, over many decades. If not officially keto, he's been low carb for decades and, as a type 1 diabetic, he still has amazing health. Safe and effective over more than 40 years now.
I’m a 75 year old retired RN , was pre diabetic , with weight problem , with osteoarthritis with multiple orthopedic surgeries ( partial knee replacement, reconstructive foot surgeries,left and right) and went on Keto diet and intermittent fasting after listening to Dr Sten Ekberg , Dr Ken Berry , Dr Eric Berg and Dr Eric Westman . I lost over 30 lbs over 3-4 months and my AIC went down from 6.3 to 5.7 . I must admit that when I’m out with friends I eat a little more carbs . But when at home , I am strictly on Keto diet and on 16/8 IF or on OMAD . I take magnesium and other supplements also . I feel so much better and more active now! Thank you so much !
Thanks, Dr. Westman for doing these fact-checks. I've been on a low-carb diet for about 8 months now. It is amazing. I feel great and have lost 50lbs. Maybe this isn't for everyone but I enjoy the foods I'm able to eat. The guy here spouting off against a low-carb diet simply does not understand insulin. Dr. Westman puts him in his place.
I finally hit my stride on a keto diet (bought a ketone meter and found a couple things that were tripping me up, and I wasn’t getting enough salt at first). My hunger is so low that I accidentally missed a whole day, then started alternate-daily fasting because I feel so good fasted. I have more energy than I know what to do with, especially 24-40 hours fasted; I was always fatigued and lethargic before, so that benefit alone would be worth doing keto for me even without the weight loss. 25lbs down, 70ish to go.
I stopped eating carbohydrates, I started eating a huge amount of fat. My fatty liver healed, my A1C is 4.8, I lost 70 lbs... I'll stick with fat.
Does this guy work for Kellogg or something?
Or Beyer
I'm sure he does!
They think meat eating is wrong and want us to eat plant based. Also, keto is not as lucrative for big business.
Dr Westman I have been following your genius for years, starting through Diet Doctor,and continue to learn from you. I no longer have high BP, no pre diabetes, only hyperthyroidism. Will never go back to SAD. Don’t want the eye trouble either which I stopped progression in on cutting out seed oils. You are a wonderful doctor. God Bless you!
This guy (Cyrus) said that being type 1 diabetic was actually good for him and that he wouldn't change that fact if he could. This should make anyone and everyone to take WHATEVER he says with utmost suspicion.
Thank you for giving us the truth about the proper diet. We have been
sick for so long because we had the wrong information.
I started keto 3 weeks ago and I love it and I am losing weight 10 pounds gone . I also walk 2 miles every other day. 👍up to you Doc.❤❤❤❤❤❤🙏
That big list he showed, about adverse health effects, are for people on the SAD diet. I’ve been carnivore nearly six years. Most of that list were problems that eating a high fat, zero carb diet, actually fixed. The rest are things that I show no signs of having, and all my markers in those ares show improved health. With zero drawbacks.
The lying plant based doctor hasn't explained why all these people on his SAD diet over the past 55 years are in the worst health we've been in human history. They don't want a mostly healthy population because that would put him out of work and kill big Pharma, the people who pay him to continue to prescribe their meds. This goes for the AMA and universities who are financed by big pharma.
My immediate impression of this young man was "Is he vegan or vegetarian? Cause he looks sickly to me." and that impression was correct.
It has nothing to do with his alopecia, it is the overall complexion.
He has alopecia. It makes him look like he has cancer. That doesn’t minimize his bullshit level though.
His "research" really shows confirmation bias. We have to REALLY be careful about our information sources and find doctors to trust, like Dr. Westman.
That is not biased at all *cough*, because he is on the opposite camp.
The truth is that diabetes is reversed by calorie restriction. That‘s why both approaches work.
One is full of saturated fat though.
One is missing B12. One you can supplement. The other one is difficult to avoid.
By the way diabetes type 1 is a totally different disease then type 2. Type 2 is completely avoidable by not overeating. Type 1 is mostly genetic. For type 1 blood sugar control is way more important then type 2.
Going keto on type 1 takes a lot of guts, since ketosis can turn potentially into diabetic ketoacidosis, since type 1 diabetics are totally dependent on the insulin they inject. Medications like jardiance are not allowed for type 1, because they lead to ketosis and increase the risk for ketoacidosis.
By the way they are both telling half truths. Ketones are an emergency fuel for the brain, since it can‘t run on fatty acids. It can not run on ketones either. Only 70% can and it prefers glucose. Ketosis is a natural state of nutrition that is part of fasting periods and can be healthy. But is not designed to be a permanent state. It‘s a survival mechanism.
Short term ketosis might improve certain cognitive functions. But long term over several years? We don‘t know. We will see. I stick with IF induced ketosis short term.
While he is right that you always can change if you don‘t feel good on the diet, he leaves out the factors you can‘t feel like arteriosclerosis. Risk is cumulative. The longer your LDL or ApoB is high, the higher your cardiovascular risk. Unfortunately you can‘t undo that. You only can prevent the risk even becoming higher. If this diet increases ApoB, which it does for a great number of people, you should consider it is not for you and try something else.
Insulin is not a storage hormone. That guy is correct. It transports energy delivering molecules into cells to be burned. If the energy is not needed right now, those molecules get stored. If it is stored or not has nothing to do with insulin. It‘s correct though that glucose or fat can‘t be stored if it is swimming around in the blood stream. But we don‘t want that. Insulin does not make you fat. The sugar and fat that is already in your bloodstream does. If you are diabetic type 2 and inject insulin, blood sugar goes down and since the energy is not needed, otherwise there would be no type 2 diabetes, gets stored as fat. But if you stop overeating, go into caloric deficit, the body will use up stored energy, cells are not full anymore and become insulin sensitive again, despite insulin. Insulin injection is not the problem. In fact this guy needs it to live. Low insulin is as dangerous as high insulin. Too stable insulin is bbad, since it decreases metabolic flexibility and glucose tolerance, greatly unstable insulin levels do just the same.
It does not matter how many carbs you eat or how much fat. Cells that are full become insulin resistant. It‘s the caloriels. High insulin and high blood sugar is a symptom not a cause of insulin resistance. Both are wrong again.
Check neutral sources.
What he does not say is how glucagon keeps blood sugar stable. It triggers gluconeogenesis. Gluconeogenesis mostly happens out of proteins. So you are constantly, since you are low carb, using up your protein in order to keep your blood glucose from falling to low, which is very dangerous.
It’s also funny how somebody that does not have a natural insulin response telling others that the natural insulin response can be very high as well. No. If the insulin response is high it is pathologic. You have higher levels of glucose intolerance and need to loose fat tissue. How much fat tissue your body can tolerate before cells become glucose intolerant is individual.
Funny also that both of them don‘t mention that protein has an insulin response too. That kind of messes up the logic behind low carb, because it‘s usually high protein as well, if the primary goal is no insulin response.
Ketones can not power the brain entirely, it still needs glucose. That the brain runs on ketones is a false statement.
If the body could make glucose from fatty acids, there would be no need of ketones. Creating glucose directly from a fatty acid is impossible for the body. This is a false statement he makes. Protein is used.
Both are only telling part of the whole picture.
Denying any side effects of your favorite diet is a typical side of bias. Inflating the side effects and overgeneralizing is also one. Both again are biased.
The all case mortality also has been found by newer studies and in meta analysises.
The vegan guy is right about insulin sensitivity. If you want to assess insulin sensitivity, you do that by performing an glucose tolerance test and not only look at fasting glucose. Eating a low carb meal does not test that. The main function of insulin is to transport glucose into cells. If that ability is diminished you are insulin resistance.
He also talks about high animal protein and does not even listened to the argument. I‘ve read the study about high protein, IGF-1 and cancer risk, and how your optimal protein level and source depends on age. In mid life the optimal animal protein level is low, while in younger and older people it should be higher. No mention of kidney function nor elimination of animal protein from the diet. It‘s amazing how the conclusions are distorted here.
Lol fat burning causes more oxidative stress then glucose burning? Glucose also can be burned without the presence of oxygen while fat simply can‘t. The studies are mixed about it though,so not significant evidence for his claim.
Furthermore keto does not change the effect of protein in any way or form. Nonsense argument , because he has none.
It is strange that he jumps to safety when the topic is effectiveness. It is because keto has shown no benefits in comparison to other whole food diets in terms of weight loss and metabolic markers, but even worse in terms of cholesterol.
That the keto diet would be FDA approved is a strange statement to make when the long term effects of medications are assessed after approval by phase 4 clinical trials.😂😂 He is not wrong there.
Low carb is not better then low fat for weight loss nor diabetes reversal. That statement is not true. There is no significant evidence to support that.
It‘s also funny that both of them claim the studies they don‘t like as weak evidence.
Gross misinterpretation of the women’s health study by the way to use it for his argument. Wow is he seriously proposing using social media groups and anecdotal evidence before actual scientific studies?
Both are so biased and that‘s why it is very ironic what he is saying about bias.
Look at neutral sources. I know it is hard to find one. But this is not it, I assure you.
@@stellasternchen Diabetes type 2 is reversed by reversing insuling resistance
@@hexada_ghostemane My point exactly. In simple terms: Cells can not accept more glucose when they are already full and overloaded. Insulin resistance is a safety mechanism of the cells. You reverse it by emptying the cells and they are no longer overloaded. It has 0 to do with carbs. It can be done with a high fiber low fat diet. There are reported cases. Not saying that it would be the optimal diet to do this, but it is not done by keeping blood insulin or blood sugar low.
Only weight loss improves the condition and potentially lead to remission.
My grandpa is on his best way, he lost lot‘s of weight and thus reduced his medication big time despite his soda drinking habits.(Not saying I like that) He just does it less.
Diabetes also is not caused by high blood glucose or high insulin levels. Those are the result of diabetes. The cause is insulin resistance in the cells.
I realised I was addicted to carbs about 25 years ago, but could see no method that I thought I could stick to, and no life structure that allowed any kind of cut-back (due to my job mostly).
I peaked in weight in 2014 (around 235 lbs) but was jobless poor for a year, then got a job with lots of walking, but still rubbish pay. I lost about a 10 lbs, then got a good job and was adding weight again.
When carnivore came up on my radar in 2018 it seemed ideal in that I knew it would fit with my life better than anything previously considered, but it took time to understand what foods I wanted etc. I lost 30 lbs but struggled at 205 to drop lower due to the addiction whispering on my shoulder too well. I've been yoyo-ing from 200 to 215 but mostly around 205, due to "cheat days" etc.
I've been more strict in the last few months and just saw the scales say 192 for the first time since 2008ish. Still 20 lbs to go to top end of ideal weight. I do want to see what that is like this time. Just need to keep the whispering devils off my shoulder when life hits hard, for that is when the devils have power.
BRAVO Dr. Westman !!! Great job !!!!! You’re saving lives !!! 🙏🏻👏🏻
Thank you kindly
I got on keto for hypoglycemic seizures. It's working fine for me and it's actually helping my menstrual cycle.
THANK YOU.We all need someone to critique the critique or those misleading statements by people with other agendas can really harm the health of many people.
Dr. Westman, I have the greatest admiration again on how you keep calm in front of such amount of lies
If I wasn't already keto, this guy would have convinced me. 🤣
Is he serving his audience with what they want to hear to make his YT channel grow?
Yup I fell for it. I’m on Keto now lol
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@@Petminder I like eggs
I'm not on keto and I still blocked his channel after just watching a few minutes of his different videos. I knew I was right about him!
This dude debated Saladino a couple years back and got completely throttled.
Thanks Dr. Westman. How painful it must have been to review this. He totally lost me talking about injecting too much insulin? As if your pancreas doesn't inject too much insulin if you eat too many carbohydrates? I will continue the keto lifestyle, and monitor my health accordingly with my primary care semi-annually. However, I couldn't tolerate all of this review, although I am grateful you did it! God bless you! I'm 61 and down 25 lbs. this year and feeling great. I have about 30 more to lose, so about another 30 weeks or so and I should be about where I want to be. Thanks for all the good info you put out there on keto, and for debunking the "keto debunkers".
Thank you it WORKS ! And I will continue to listen to you and Dr Berry !
Looks really ill - I feel sorry for him. Enjoying keto. Lost weight and I am back to pre-children weight (25 years ago). Feel fantastic. Of all meds and very happy. The best news is that my wedding ring (which I haven’t been able to wear for many years) now fits as I have lost so much weight. If plants work for some - fine - but don’t try and scare people into coming off keto
There should be a rule where people are not allowed to give nutrition advice if they don't have any eyebrows
You would have lost weight if you cut out any macro nutrient. I'm glad you lost weight but it's not ketosis. It's caloric intake. Keto just happens to be a more manageable form of caloric deficit for you. I just want to make sure people aren't over inflating the reality of these things.
@@Andrew-hx9tz Your knowledge of how humans chemically turn food into energy is lacking. We are not little furnaces. It is a series of complex hormone driven biochemical processes. Different forms of matter get converted to energy differently. Some make tissues, some make energy, some go into storage, and some are excreted. If you change what type of calories you consume you can change the number of them that get stored.
@@DigitalSteel I need more than your word. If you are going to make claims that counter the vast consensus then you need to provide some extraordinary evidence.
@@Andrew-hx9tzI don't think you understand what a vast consensus is, because if you did, you would not be making nonsensical claims. Do you really think if I eat 2000 calories of steak that the outcome will be the same as if I ate 2000 calories of cake? These things have radically different compositions, and are not even remotely used the same way in the Krebs Cycle or any other metabolic process. You talk about extraordinary evidence, and yet you come up to the conversation with a grade school level of apparent education on the matter... It is always the uneducated that think the answer is so simple because they only have a simple and lacking understanding to begin with.
I recently watched a video comparing keto and plant based. They said they had similar results in both diets after 1 year. I Have done keto and attempted vegan again. I lasted 3 days. My blood sugars were on rollercoaster. I had to stop. Returning to keto. I can stick with keto.
Dr Westman, that man is selling the heck out of the ketogenic diet! I wonder if he would do one on carnivore for us next?? 😂
Well he already has a video on eggs^^ which I didn't watch but I'm sure the suggestion is to switch to something else chick related to save your life. To chick peas
"Unhealthy looking man tells people how to be healthy"
where have you been all my life Dr Westman? So glad I found you.
Rule #1 NEVER believe a single word a vegan says.
I was vegan for 7 years and it helped for a little bit but it wasn't sustainable.. I eventually became less plant based and more pasta based because my body craved calories, it absolutely wrecked my gut health but a wake up call a year later came when I had to take antibiotics for an ear infection which led to candida and lots of other gut issues ... the only thing that helped is cutting out potatoes, grains , and incorporating meat . T
You’re an awesome doctor ! I had a pro keto doctor My blood work was perfect. He went into mens health unfortunately for me. Now I’m having trouble finding a doctor who is pro keto They all seem afraid to venture beyond the books. Thank you for your video
I was suffering from hypertrophic arthritis. I went to keto diet 4 months ago and the results was immense ! I no longer tired in the after noon and my joints are no longer swollen. I just feel so great. And i lost 5 kilos !
I wont ever go back to conventional diet, never !
That guy’s a charlatan. He’s trying to sell you his and his partner’s products.
Hi my name is Emma and i'm a sugarholic ...or was. I am thankful for the keto guidelines for food intake.
When I ate a lot of sugar and carbs every 2 hours I was starving and I would panic for food Now, after a few months, the hunger is different. It comes and I'm annoyed that I have to think about eating. I am so glad I can look at keto long-term.
Cyrus is looking worse every year ! Humans evolved in a mostly ketogenic state.
THANK YOU Dr Westman!!! My sister is a vegan and is totally convinced that it is the best diet for every single person on the planet. I’m a type 1 (actually LADA) diabetic and she saw Cyru Khambatta’s presentation of his book with co-author Robbie Barbard advocating a plant-based diet for all types of diabetics, including type 1 & LADA (type 1.5). So my sister is on a crusade to save my health. She knows that I’ve been doing a low-carb diet, but it just eats her up that I willingly eat meat. I’ve skimmed Cyrus Khambatta’s book: Mastering Diabetes and have watched a few of his UA-cam presentations and interviews. I read many of the comments on his UA-cam videos and discovered a large number of people to disagree with him. He advocates eating a lot of fruit and avoiding fat, especially saturated fat. In my own experience following a low carb diet has improved my diabetes control and lowered the amount of insulin I need. My last HbA1c was 6.3 and it was 6.0 a year ago. My triglycerides were 52 and HDL was 59.
What u r describing is a personality trait. The obnoxious sibling has good intentions just like the fundamentalist christians and the Amway fools. Some people are very suggestible and it's a bad quality for a modern person.
*Thank you for sharing this informative video and helping us separate fact from fiction when it comes to the keto diet!*
I usually eat around 800 cal of high-quality animal fat per day, which doesn't change my blood glucose, but if I eat 100 cal of some sugary carbohydrate, it sends it up very quickly. I'm a 79-year-old male, and if I had followed the logic that he talks about, I think the only way you could visit me is to go out to my tombstone. Thank goodness there are people like Dr. Westman who call this guy out on some of the misinformation he's putting out. Because you know what, there's a lot of people out there that love to eat donuts and cakes and cookies, and oh, they taste so good even when you're full and really not hungry; they're such a great form of entertainment, and if you can get some nut like this to say oh you're actually doing something healthy they want to believe that because they want to keep doing what they're doing. As Dr. Phil would say, how's that working for Ya!!!!!!!!!
I do not need no studies to know how extremely good and healthy and strong I feel with keto and intermittent fasting !!!
I am considered a skinny person but when I started losing weight for no apparent reason, I was diagnosed with diabetes with a HbA1C of 13.1%, I had oral medication (icluding Sulfonylureas) and insulin injection as treatment. I followed the nutritionist guide and tested my blood glucose religiously and I'm utterly fearful of where I'm heading. Then I adopted a low carb diet and dropped into hypoglycemia occasionally and began to wean off most of my medication. For the past 1 year, my HbA1C was holding at 5.9%. My lipids are better as well, my blood pressure hovers around 120/70 and has gone from 48kg to 59kg as per my last medical exam. No more daily insulin injections and only a couple of Metformin a day for now. But my eyesight and nerves were damaged by diabetes, I hope to recover but progress had being slow.
Our ancestors were in ketosis at least 10 months of the year.
This guy once claimed that as a result of his trying a keto diet all his hair fell out!
Yeah right!
Weird. He made a really good case for insulin control when he addressed the first "myth".
Don't trust anyone with no eye brows.
😂😂
what i find odd is, he demonizes table sugar when that is converted to glucose, but a potato is somehow a different type of glucose.
well it's half glucose and half fructose. but he loves to eat fruit. "fructose"
Well I am 75 and I do a mixture of diets that are talked about here on you tube. I eat mainly whole foods/drinks mentioned from those diets (both meats and veggies, etc) and stay away from processed foods and other things mentioned. I eat 3 light meals a day where the most I eat is lunch. I do no snacks in between. I also do some exercising during the day, more during the summertime. I keep my weight down by doing this.
I continue to listen to videos like this to pick up information about foods.
Thanks for the video.
Anytime someone tells you not to eat a proper human diet of wholefoods and animals products, run away from them even if they are your primary care physician. They don't have your best interests at heart.
Keto diet is good for financial and healthy. I save money in food shopping and don't spend time to visit doctor or pay for medicine. God blessed.
All the evidence I need came from two sources - one, never met a healthy vegan/vegetarian - I don't mean people who went that way recently, I mean the long term ones. They look weak and sickly and often have unpredictable mental states/mood swings. That is my experience.... two, I tried going mostly-vegg for a few months. And things did not improve.
Low carb has served me well - although I will admit, that once in a while, I feel better if I 'goose' my system with carbs - makes my muscles feel better... I am talking once or twice a week. Not everyday.
I have the same issue! I am low weight 112 and if I eat no carbs gor 3 days I start to feel so weird and it's not good. But if I eat just a few carbs it takes that away. Don't know what it is...
@@marthalewis173because you are not fat adapted and still sugar addicted, you havnt given your body time to switch its metabolic fuel source. Could take a month at least.
You're activating the randle cycle when you do that. Not good
we have been eating keto for 300,000 thousand years.
Thanks Doc. Love these videos, helps prepare me to counter others anti-keto misconceptions..
I've reversed my T2 diabetes, lowered my A1c by over 2.0 to 5.9,, gotten myself off of 6 diabetic medications and have lost over 100lbs by eating a ketogenic menu. I count all carbs and eat under 50 carbs per day with most days under 40 carbs. Keto works.
Also I am now able to be much more physically active than I was two years ago and a year ago. As my weight goes off my activity level increases and my energy level is so good now I can work steady for hours. This in turn contributes to my overall health improvement.
Dr Khambatta says that he hears many people believe that "insulin resistance is caused by insulin itself". This is ridiculous. I don't believe this nor have I ever heard other advisors on the ketogenic diet say something even like this. I'm wondering who he is speaking with?
The Ketogenic food pyramid is also a bit humorous. Dr Westman says "triangle?". Yes, more of a triangle I guess...
I had an interesting thought at 38:00 after the piece about making fat out of carbs.
The vegans often say "look at that large animal that got so big from grass/plants", well my thought was has any vegan wondered where those animals that we love to eat got all that fat from?
Those animals eat almost zero dietary fat yet we love to eat them for the fat because it is such a compact, dense and optimized form of energy.
They actually do get fat from fat (well, unless grain fed) since the fiber is turned into fats by the bacteria in their digestive system, which are then used by the animals, though grass fed are generally leaner than grain fed. I don't know of any big animals that live off carbs in nature, it's always fat
@@defeqel6537 "Technically True" 😂 I know but it was just a funny thought and something I think should be brought up much more - that glucose is mostly stored as fat and only a small amount of glucose is readily available from muscle.
@@defeqel6537They don’t EAT fat but transform the carbohydrates into all needed nutrients for themselves. Fat, protein and all other necessary nutrients.
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@@defeqel6537 The geese that is raised for foi gras are fed a very low fat diet of corn and syrup. Not far from the "food" that receive "heart healthy" labels when containing mostly non essential macronutrients.
Thank you for thoroughly going through this for your audience.
At 58:02 this Cyrus guy talks about the content of a ketogenic diet including "vegetable oil". Since when? If anything, all of the seed oils are barred from a ketogenic diet.
I have been Keto for almost 15 years. Went Keto when my wife started having joint problems. I talked her into going on a no carb diet to lose wait. We cleaned the kitchen of carbs and we both ate very low carb (about 20 grams a day). She lost weight. Her joints stopped hurting. I lost 30 lbs as well. And we are both much happier. The only issue is that we still drink wine and get drunk faster. Other than that we are fine. And we drink only cabs and only twice a week. After a drinking night we fast for 18 hours to work off the alcohol. We have both done C-scans to detect calcium in our arteries. Both of us have a score of zero.
Love the concept of dr Westman reacting with his pur scientific mind. 👍. AND he sems to be such a gentleman ❤️👍, from France