Why Do People Like Cruiser Motorcycles? (No Seriously...)
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When you look at it, it makes you smile. When you sit on it, your feet are firmly on the ground. When you crank it up, it's alive, throbbing between your legs. When you pull away, it's an announcement of your departure. As you are cruising, you are always reminded that the bike is serving you and there to make you happy. And when you park it and look back, you smile and say, thank you, old friend.
Yeehaw buddy
this would be horrible to read without context...
It's funny because this applies for every bike I've owned, regardless of type. Nothing here is cruiser specific.
Applies to my 50 cc bike too .
This guy’s cruiser turns him on a bit and I ain’t even mad about it. This was worth the read.
The thing I like about cruisers is that you can have fun putting along and staying within the speed limit. Sports bikes don't give you any thrill or excitement until you go well above the speed limit since they ride too perfectly.
The last bit kinds cuts it, rides too perfectly. Thats what i want in a bike, and i get your point but its just a tough sell for me for something with less value, but more personality
@@dankmemes2354 With sports bikes I think you can get a little cocky since they ride too perfect and you almost feel invincible. When I owned my BMW sports tourer, I kept my old Harley Sportster too just to keep me in line and keep me kind of humble since the BMW could do any speed you wanted flawlessly.(I'm sure the newer sports bikes are more perfect than that bike was.)
Cruisers are just boring all the time though.
I have a few thoughts on this, I've been riding for over 30 years but have only owned 5 motorcycles and 2 scooters. We get used to what we ride early on and the most. Yammie doesn't like the cruiser position because it's not what he started on, and not what he rides the most, and that's perfectly fine. But that doesn't make it bad, just not what you're used. I have only ridden a couple of "sport" bikes, and had a hard time adjusting to the foot and leg position, I'd probably have to own one for several weeks before I really got used to it. For me it's about form following function - I am not carving up canyons, no canyons near me. I am not running off road, not a lot of options for that near me either. I just want a bike I can hop on, ride to work , ride around town, and have fun on. The difference is what do you want a bike to do and how do you define fun? Other than that, I have a 28 inch inseam, I literally spent 3 weeks at a chiropractor after riding a Versys because I over extended my leg trying to get on and off the bike. I have bad knees, slipped disk in my neck, and short legs. So a low seat, foot forward, upright riding position is the only way I can I ride, so that means I am left with 1 style of motorcycle, or I can ride a scooter.
Yammie complains about not having rear pegs and controls and how it affects his ability to grip the gas tank. I haven't been riding for very long but my first bike is a cruiser and honestly don't see a need to death grip the gas tank between my legs. Yammie is too used to addictive track toys that apparently not having the need to grip the gas tank is a red flag for him. There are probably a lot more science and explanation behind it all but he just doesn't explain it. So when people say "you just don't get it yammie." There's a lot more truth than it first seems and he honestly doesn't get it
I didn't have a lot of cash up front for getting a bike, and like you said a metric bike in decent shape for 1500 can be found all day long. Easy to work on, cheap, and reliable was what I wanted since I had no motorcycle experience!
I can ride a cruiser for longer periods than a sports bike. That and my Indian has cruise control.
As first time rider along with my wife , starting late in life (45). We went the cruiser route “Kawasaki Vulcan S”. We are both shorter riders so the height was important, also we aren’t concerned with speed and canyon carving. Comfort and just the enjoyment of the ride was what made our decision. Btw, rode that VulCan naked from Cali to Idaho, Nor Cal to Mazatlan MX with no issues. Only have a year of experience riding. Love the decision.
I'm in the market for my first bike - cruiser style. I'm about to pull the trigger on the vulcan, but i'm torn about the engine not having that "soul" a V might get you. Or a 270 crank. I'm kinda tempted to go sv650/mt07, but man the comfort of the vulcan...
@@Partyczka I haven’t got to try any other bigger V yet. I ride with all Harley riders who tell me it’s night and day. Although, they have not ridden my bike. Even though the Vulcan is a smaller 650, it is a bit faster and has plenty of power for the freeway. I’ve topped out at 105, and have had my average speed at 85-90 and still had plenty of get go. If I do move up it’ll be a Ducati X Dievel, lol.
Little did you know the Vulcan S is actually one of the faster cruisers on the market haha
@@Partyczka the S had the 650 sport touring engine from kawi. They’re pretty quick throw that in the cruiser and a light chassis and you have a pretty fast cruiser.
@@Partyczka The Royal Enfield Super Meteor 650 about to come out has a 270 degree crank and is very pretty as well as cheap.
This is what my experience is: I have used Japanese 125CC motorcycles for point-to-point commute in bumper-to-bumper traffic in large cities. For highway ride over 200 mile+ distance, I will prefer a cruiser as that will tire me less. If I wish to feel the power of a fast machine, I will go to a track and rent a Hyabusa. I don't know about other people but for me, motorcycles serve purposes based on what I am looking for. At this current phase of life, I am looking for a moderately paced long solo rides across the Appalachians. So, it will be cruisers for me as I will be riding at constant speed while enjoying the scenary.
At the start of this video he rams on people who say something like "oh yammie, your just a simp for fast bike yada yada yada." And makes it seem like he was going to take the video seriously but then complains over and over about how cruisers don't have rear pegs and controls like a sport bike does and doesn't have the power that a sport bike does. Oh but it's also too bulky and heavy so why not complain about that too because sport bikes are lighter, so I guess that's a con. Just take comfortality out of riding in general according to yammie. I can never take his content seriously
Exactly..crushers and touring bikes are the most comfortable in my opinion… I’ll ride 8 hours on my road glide and I just bought the 22 lowrider st last year.. I put about 6000 miles on it I put ohlins 13” 506 shock on it and the front cartridges and omg … stock was pretty good,, but the upgrades are phenomenal.. it’s a comfortable as the road glide ,,, more so even.. because it’s lighter. Yet heavy enough to stay planted on the freeway … I absolutely love it
I'm loving the assumption you could just jump from a 125 and a cruiser to handling a hayabusa at a track (that's really not what they're built for). Good luck is all I'll say.
My cbr 600f is almost upright seating position, goes like a train on highway and is nothing like unstable anywhere. Only thing I think it's not is comfortable for passenger 🤷🏼♂️ for me i do fine full tank before want to get off and stretch, that's like 200 miles. I like about cruisers with feet front position tho, it's chill and lay back but then I can't do agressive twisties as i do now with my bike 😊
@@SipePerkele my 950 v star goes 200 on 4 ish gallons of gas before the gas light comes on. It's super comfortable with front foot boards. It's definitely not the best at weaving (or maybe I'm just not) but it still does a surprisingly good job in turns. Obviously it's heavy so I have to keep my turns sort of slow but that's really not hurting anyone since I'm still turning faster than regular cars. Yammie must love the feeling of rubbing his balls against his gas tank to justify knowing absolutely nothing about cruisers
Of the three bikes I have my favorite is my cruiser. It's a big, rumbly, yet relaxing ride. Every time I'm out on the Fury there's always one or two people who rolls down their window and asks me about the bike. What is it, who makes it, what CC is it, they really like the way it looks, sounds, etc., etc. I love talking bikes with people and that machine has started a lot of conversations. They're always crazy surprised how little it costs for what it delivers. It's the best 6 grand I've ever spent.
Hell yeah, that's a great engine, the same one in my VTX. I love surprising people when you say they're Hondas, especially the Fury
Pretty good analysis.
One major con that surprisingly was not even mentioned, is the overwhelming weight of cruisers, that really tasks one, especially if your in the city. I hate having to cope with something that demands powerlifting.🤧
Yes this is a pretty big con. I'm 24 weighing around 130 lbs. My cruiser is pretty heavy but I'm used to it. I would hate to have to push it anywhere though
He spoke facts on the pros and cons. I actually own a both sport and a cruiser. Just whatever I feel like riding that day is what will come out the garage. I recently purchased the 2023 Honda rebel 1100. It is a very good combo of both a cruiser and naked sport bike
I am a cruiser rider. I chose it because for me, at 59, it’s the most comfortable for long distance travel. This is the INTENDED USE for my bike. Last think I wanna do is be slung across a tank for 1000km/day. I’d be crippled. Also I am short with ridiculously short legs. I prefer to have at least the balls of both my feet being planted on the ground at stops because again I’m OLD and SHORT. So any other style of bike isn’t going to do that for me unless I start changing the geometry by lowering it, which I do not want to do. Because I do A LOT of distance riding I need that low end torque to get me out of unsafe situations on road. I don’t need to get a knee down in corners to look “cool”. Yep I do scrape my floorboards on occasion because I don’t get the lean angle of a sport bike. But I’ve never once needed get get my knee down while riding. And I prefer floor boards to pegs personally because for me it’s more comfortable. Had pegs on my first bike. Hated them.
I do appreciate every style of bike for their INTENDED USE. Heck if I was taller and younger I’d also want an ADV bike.
I do love your channel because it’s often entertaining. But the constant hate on for cruiser bikes here is bloody annoying. We get it. You don’t like them for all the reasons. But stop flogging a dead horse and just appreciate all the varied ways people enjoy two wheels.
Amen
So, when you were young you were tall?
I bought an 04 honda shadow 1100 last year for $1000 and I love it. Rides super comfortable, enough power around town and 80mph feels like 30. I appreciate other bikes for sure but man I love my honda!
An 04 Shadow is my dream bike!
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I've made mine unbearably loud I love starting it up at 5am to go to work and rev the piss out of it at every light, tunnel gas station with a big overhang and library with there windows open. Sometimes I make motorcycle sounds when I'm not on it, did I mention I have a 4000 watt sub on the back blasting freebird on repeat, and I also made sure to put on an extremely bright light bar and obnoxious flashing break lights to let you know I need to slow down to -15mph to make that hairpin turn. Nothing beats getting to your destination and saying what!? For the next 20 minutes or so. Wouldn't trade it for the world.
So most of the "cons" are they aren't built for riding like an idiot. Got it. Maybe that's why they're called cruisers? And another con is that you'll be "classified" as Harley guy (which I guess you see as a con?)Newsflash-999 out of 1000 sport bike riders AREN'T going to the track to "drag knee" or do 120+ mph. They're doing it on public roads. As a Harley rider, I don't want to be associated with THEM.
I bought a cruiser when I turned 50, mostly because I thought I was supposed to, after all everyone else I ride with thinks that's the way to go. I never really got used to it and now I ride adv. I grew up riding dirtbikes so it was like coming home for me.
Says it's objective, proceeds to say "I think" before every "fact"
I bought my Victory Octane because it had more lean angle than most of the cruisers. Good price, 104 horse stock, i like the attitude the bike carry’s about itself, and when I had my 19’ cbr600r, I felt stressed on it because all I wanted to do was go fast, and that desire far surpassed my skill that I was developing and got myself into some hairy situations. And this thing rips enough throughout the rev range than it left a lot of my sport bike buddies kinda of stunned and that always puts a smile on my face
Had an Octane also... great bike, better than the Scout.. have had both....
I’d have a hard time calling the scout a cruiser though. That thing with mid controls is a sweet machine
@@victorvannatter312 I put scout mids on my octane and I love it
What are all of your opinions on the Octane?? I LOVE the looks of it, but I don't really know much about Victory's reliability and it also pulls me back the fact the brand is no longer around. Would you recommend its purchase??
@@IndependentVictor the octane is a cool bike. Victory is still around. They’re called Indian now. The current scout basically is a low slung cruiser version of the octane. They’re made by Polaris. They’re very well made
The guy on the Harley Davidson wearing a leather jacket, doesnt care about anyones opinion of them.
my opinion is it's not a choice, it is what you are "drawn too". that simple.
I have a cruiser. I enjoy riding it. I like the upright western riding style.
I like cruisers for the style and the ergonomics. But, I am the new owner of a 2023 sv650. Simple tech, sporty ride, less money than a cruiser. Love it. Had it 2 days, I've already put 160 miles on it.
It's all about the roads you get to ride on. A cruiser is just as capable to get you to the mountains as that sports bike, but the cruiser is going to be a million times more comfortable once properly set up for you compared to a sports bike. Additionally, I much prefer to have the lower lean angle on the roads I end up riding -- going much faster, critters jump out of the ditch and mess up your day before you can blink, not to mention the possibility of debris showing up on the road or just other people doing dumber stuff than you are.
Sportster rider here, first off as many others have mentioned, I'm short. That's the number one reason I moved towards cruisers. I started in the Era of cheap UJMs but they are to tall.
Second I like traditional styling, not much more to say about that.
Third, aftermarket support. My Sportster turns into whatever I want it to be. Foot position wrong? Somebody makes a part to fix it. Want a third wheel? There's a kit for that. Hardtail chop? You bet.
Fourth, easy to fix. Also known as dated technology. Whoever decided to put one carb sticking out the side instead of 4 carbs shoehorned into the frame is a genius in my book.
Finally, It's versatile, Jack of all trades if you will. It manages the muddy dirt roads around my cabin just fine. Running to town on errands, it's great at that. Winding through our mountain roads, not a problem. 4000 mile vacation? It will handle that too.
Would a Goldwing be better on an interstate slog? Sure but I wouldn't want to get it up the dirt road on a muddy day and it pretty heavy to haul out for errands. Would a dirt bike do better in the mud? Sure but I wouldn't want to go to far and it's not equipped to pickup groceries. Would a sportbike be faster in the twisties? Of course but again it will suck in the mud and kill my back and legs on long rides.
Bonus answer, used Sportsters are cheap and reliable.
I like 04 to 06 because the Evo is reliable, the Rubbermount frame is more comfortable and it still has a carb for simple repairs. Not that you asked.
I own a metric cruiser. My ideal day of riding is doing hundreds of miles on the highway. My bike leans more than enough by the way.
I had a Sport-Touring bike, but wanted to try something different. I wanted to try a cruiser, but wanted something that was still fast and handled well. Harley was out of the question as they aren’t that powerful or known for their handling. I settled on a 2017 Triumph Rocket III. It accelerates faster than my Sport-Touring bike did and it handles surprisingly well for a big bike. I’m not carving corners with it, and I rarely did that with my last bike, so no loss there. The extra comfort of a bigger seat on the Rocket is nice on trips. 😎
I'm thinking about getting a Rocket 3 R myself.
@@DonJ. the new one is a very different bike compared to mine. It’s smaller, lighter and handles better. I’ve sat on one, but haven’t ridden one yet. I’ve heard nothing but good things about it though.
It's about finding something you like. I like cruisers because they are comfortable and I love the rumble a v-twin makes. However I also love naked bikes. So I did the logical thing and bought two different bikes so that I could have both. My Stratoliner is great for the long haul, multiple day rides that I take with some frequency. It also is relatively quick for a cruiser which keeps me entertained. On the other hand I also have a Z900RS that I ride for several hours on end multiple times a week. That bike scratches my sport bike itch without breaking my spine and is an absolute joy to do hood rat stuff on. Especially with an aftermarket header. I think if you try to find a bike that does everything well you just find a boring bike that lacks character and doesn't necessarily do anything great or exciting, but just meh, good enough. I'd also say metric cruiser is hands down the way to go if you want a cruiser. There are so many makes and models to try out and most are bulletproof.
Have you tried the 2014-15 Honda Valkyrie? Its a cruiser similar to the Rocket 3 only it has the Goldwing powerplant and transmission. I love mine. Tons of fun and reliability
I've never had a cruiser and up till recently never had much interest in them, but over the past few years being that I'm getting old think the foot forward position would be much more comfortable. The one I like is the Suzuki M109.
Reasons why I think cruisers are great. 1 Practicality. When you go on a trip you need a place to put your coat in case it gets cold and your food and water etc. Cruiser have saddle bags and maybe a trunk. On a sport bike you have to stick your stuff in a back pack and wear it. 2. Comfort. Cruisers are comfortable mile after mile. 3. Looks. Cruisers engines just look really great. Sport bikes don't have engines that are as attractive so they usually cover them up or on a naked bike you just have to put up with a less attractive engine. 4. Less temptation to do stupid stuff. If you have a hammer but you are forbidden to hit anything you are going to be frustrated because a hammer's only purpose is to hit stuff. If you have a sport bike and you are forbidden to go above 70 mph, and you want to obey the law, you are going to be frustrated because the purpose of a sport bike is basically just to break the law and speed. it really isn't very good for anything else.
5. Provides relaxation. When I want to relax I ride my cruiser through the countryside and enjoy the scenery. 6. Sound. To me a low soothing rumble is nice whereas something that screams like a bat out of hell isn't so nice. 7. Low seat height. I'm short so things other than cruisers don't work well for me. Finally. It's silly to act like cruisers cannot turn. I have never scraped my pegs in any turn while going either the speed limit or 10 miles per hour over the speed limit. The only way I can scrape my pegs is to go about 20 or 30 or more miles per hour over the speed limit. I just don't want to ride like that. I don't see the point. I like being safe. Plus I always wear my helmet etc.
Well for me,being in my 50’s felt it was time to give up my Busa and get something a lil more reasonable. So I hopped on the Harley train and bought a Breakout 114. It was cool at first,but the weight, speed and lack of handling took it’s toll on me. I began to miss the sport bike world. My wife wouldn’t allowed to get another sport bike,so I needed something in the middle. So my next bike(#6) will be a 23 Ducati diavel v4. Part sport bike,part cruiser. The whole Harley experience was a total failure for me.
65 and bought a new Busa ! Great bike, actually do long distance on it... Diavel looks fantastic.... have owned many Harleys ....
60… got a 48 when I was ten years younger, realized my mistake two years later - and got a Softtail Breakout. Living in the Swiss Jura mountains I have been through the mountains and valleys on the winding roads of Switzerland, France and Spain. “Leaning angle”? Just an excuse.
Cruisers = Highways, Travel, Passenger.
Naked = City, Stoplights, Coffee shop.
Sport = Twisties, Track, Speed.
I mean, that's the usual description. Each category can do everything however. It's just that each is more suited to certain types of riding. Oh and another thing, nobody, other than other motorcyclists, care about your bike or what you are riding. They aren't "checking you out" or "drooling over your badass bike". Not at stoplights, nor on the highway. They do not care. You ride what you want, because it's what YOU like. What you find suits you the best. And there's nothing wrong with owning multiple bikes, since they diverge so much in their optimal uses. That's what's so awesome about motorcycles. Unlike cars, each and every bike is just full of character, and purpose.
I started riding in 2019 and I got a used 2012 Honda Shadow with 1100 miles on it for 3k. I still ride it today and I do love that bike even though I know I get made fun of. I'm looking to get something a little less cheap at some point but I couldn't ever see myself on a sports bike. I know nothing but cruiser at this point, what direction should I be looking? Any advice is helpful.
because it's like riding a couch instead of a bar stool.
I just love motors! Naked, super sports, adv, motocross...ect I have 4 bikes, I want one for each of there own purposes
I bought an older Sportster 1200 for my first bike because, where I live, it was the best bang for the buck for something I liked to look at. I grew up working on old VW Bugs, so there was a certain appeal to an air-cooled, carbureted bike simply because I know how to work on it. I found one that was low mileage whose previous owner had dechromed a bit. It's not going for the chrome daddy look or the rattle can black thing either. It just looked like a clean, neat bike that sounded nice.
That's about it. Only two issues I have is whether or not to go to forward controls and the weight. I can't deny that a lighter bike would be a bit easier to learn on, even though Sporties aren't that heavy. I keep thinking about buying. second, light beater of a bike just so I can really dig into low-speed maneuvers without really giving much of a damn about picking something up or putting some dings on it. I'm not afraid of hurting myself by dropping the bike working on U-Turns and Figure 8s; I'm afraid of hurting the bike.
Everything he said about the controls is accurate. I have highway pegs, but I really don't like my feet out front aside from its more comfortable. As far as feeling in control, the mid pegs are way better, but they really screw with my hips. Turning left or right from a stop and bringing the inside foot in makes my hip catch from time to time, and that sucks.
Cruisers are cool, but Sports bikes stopped being cool a long time ago, easily overtaken by the Naked, which gives you the Sports bike performance with some of the Cruiser rawness
Could ask the same question about sportbikes. Why do I need to rev to 10k RPM in town? And every one of them looks alike. Not one of them could compare with my Fat Boy for style or sound. Lean angle isn't an issue, there's plenty of lean angle. Again, we're talking about public roads, not race tracks. The feet forward seating position is WAY more comfortable than any wrist breaking, nut-crunching, crotch rocket. Is a Goldwing better for long distances? Of course but that's what airplanes are for.
The reasons I like cruisers are because they look cool,and because I find the upright riding position more comfortable than leaning forwards.
Started on the cb300, amazing bike. But it's hard to cart my girl on. I upgraded and got a fz07. So I love naked bikes. My plan is to get a rebel 1100 soon. I mainly want a cruiser so my back pack is a little more comfortable which would make me more comfortable and the fact of being able to actually customize a cruiser. That's what sucks with sport bikes is you can only do so much without looking like you raided an AutoZone accessory section.
I did the same thing lol. Cruiser bike and a naked bike. Can't live without either.
Same reason most people like any bike. “I just like it”
Interesting view, I do agree, personally am not a cruiser person but mostly because of the weight and ergonomics.
Coming from someone who is not a specific brand or bike snob as I have owned and/or ridden many different types of bikes over the years from GSXR's, Harley Davidsons, Metric Cruisers and Dual sports (currently Own a Kawasaki Vulcan). I love all types of Motorcycles. For me, the reason I went the cruiser route again when I got back into riding was due to several different things. While I'm not an old man, I have to admit that I am getting older. My thirst for constant speed and adrenaline I got from my old GSXR is a thing of the past. I loved the lean; I loved the speed and part of me would love to have a sport bike again if I had a track near me. But to do that on open populated roads is not something I want to do anymore and just my personal decision. I know of many sport bikes riders that are much older than me and still love every bit of it and that's cool to see. It's just that sport bike would tempt me to push things and ride more aggressively than I'm willing to be anymore. Also, growing up, I loved the looks of the cruiser bikes as well. Again, it never mattered to me if it's a Harley, Honda, Kawasaki or any of the other brand. I just loved the nostalgic old school look and feel as well as the sound. Having owned various styles of bikes, I get cruisers don't perform or hug the road as much, but I've always enjoyed the ride no matter what bike I'm on. Also, with a cruiser, I'm way more comfortable for longer rides due to the riding position. I just enjoy the slower more relaxed ride to enjoy the wind and the view along the way and in my opinion, that's the intent of that motorcycle hence the name "cruiser".
I don't care what anyone rides. If you're on two wheels enjoying it just as I am; you and your bike (no matter what it is) is cool by me. It's unfortunate that not everyone has that mentality as no one really needs to justify why they like this motorcycle or that one. Ride want you want and enjoy it! With all that said, I'm off to jump on my Cruiser and ride!
Ride safe everyone!
A motorcycle doesn’t need to always come down to its spec sheet on paper is better than the spec sheet of another bike. I’ve had sport, dual, and bagger. Buy what you like and ride. Most of the time people aren’t skilled enough to do everything the bike spec sheet says anyways.
Riding my Vulcan 800 Classic just makes me smile. Love the way it runs and handles. Rode it all across the USA. Now I long distance ride a Concours 14, but I will always Sunday/Group ride the Vulcan 800 Classic. She reminds me of an 850 Norton Commando.
Been a good starter bike. Now time for an adventure bike.
Yammie do you not know if you have heard of, or seen buells new super cruiser. But I would love to hear your thoughts and opinion in a video.
79 hardtail shovelhead raked high and out chopper, moving to mid controls from forwards soon too. Love it 🎉
You're young. You still seek adrenaline... Speed... Excitement. When you mature enough you will realize slow aint bad either. You get to enjoy more things along the way. You get to relax more and unwind without the risk of killing yourself. I admit i was a speed demon when i was younger but now it's kind of a hassle going ridiculously fast. Fast is enough. 50-100 fast. 100+ is just unreasonably fast for public road so there's no need for an extremely fast bike. If i do track sure! I won't take anything less than a liter bike but on public road? Cruisers or other slow motorcycle is more than enough.
A true performance cruiser setup with the right seating position, suspension, ground clearance gives you a bike you can have fun on a twisty road and also put down 400+ mile days if you want. Plus, more comfy for passengers and gear too. As for an ADV and sport touring bike they are arguably better at the functional stuff. However, I do find them a bit bland sometimes the cruiser market gives you a bit more personality. To each their own.
I own a 2003 Triumph America (bought it new) and a 2007 Harley Dyna Street Bob that I've completely rebuilt from the ground up (bought it as a project to give me something to do). As an old-age pensioner and retired from work I no longer feel comfortable on sports/sports tourers and have had my fill of track days, motorway blasts and knee down twisties! Been there, done it all, got the T-shirt! I'm happy now to cruise around at 50-70 mph and just enjoy the ride. Really enjoy your content Yammie, greetings from England!
For some of us, it’s a lack of other options. I am way too tall for anything but a cruiser with forward controls or standard bike (like a Bonneville or UJM) with mids. Going fast is great, but I’m not going to fold up my 38” inseam legs to use rear-set pegs
So umm I have a question I know you like motorcycles ALOT and same with me I live in Finland and im 17 last year I got my licence for a 125cc light motorcycle anyway at summer I was at a motorcycle meet and in there I did a burnout and a long one I switched from the first gear to the second and to the third and there was alot of smoke but when I was done it said abs failure I shat my pants and tried to ride a little but it didnt turn off and when I pressed the back brake the abs ofc didnt work then I asked if we can leave the group and they agreed we stopped at a bus stop and I turned the engine off and started it and boom the abs brake system worked again now I still have been very interested why did this happen and I would like to know is it okay to do burnouts still or should I stop I have done a very few after that but would like to do more and I need a professionals advice on this
I think it has a LOT to do with when and how you grew up. I mean i LOVE cruiser bikes, my dad rode a cruiser, my Great-uncle was in Hell's Angles and he rode a cruiser of course, my uncle rides a cruiser today and now i have one of my very own. But dont get wrong, i DO like the sport bikes just NOT THE NEW ONES so much. I prefer the sport bikes of the 80s and 90s, the old school 1990 CBR250RR was and still is ABSOLUTELY A MAGICAL WORK OF ART and a bike i would LOVE to own. The sport bikes of "yester-year" had so much personality that you cant help but love them. But so many of the new sport bikes today are nothing more than cookie cutter carbon copies of one another. I can barely tell the difference between a Kawasaki CBR250 and a Honda GSX-R 750, if it wasn't for the stickers or plastics on it id probably think they were the same bike. Cruisers are somewhat like that, just to a lesser degree. Most cruisers you can tell what they are because you can SEE the motor, you can see the exhaust, you can watch the motor as the offset pistons cause it to twitch back and forth and hear the low grumble of it as it sits idling like a siren's call seducing you to hope on and open up the throttle. Where as sport bikes are all covered in plastic, you cant see the motor and the bike doesn't even really announce itself until you hit like 5,000 RPM. A cruiser bike wants to be ridden no matter your riding style, it's just as fun riding one at low cruising speeds in a straight like as it at higher speeds in the twisties, it just says "RIDE ME". Whereas a sport bike is at it's most fun when your leaned over the tank in the twisties, dragging knees and doing wheelies but just going in a straight line can become boring if not outright uncomfortable. I dont want to say that cruiser bikes are "better" than sport bikes, because i honestly do not think either is "better" than the other, but personally i think cruiser bikes just call to more people. I like to think of bikes this way, a cruiser bike is like your "trusty steed", a friend that has been with you through thick and thin, that you can depend on to get you where you need to go no matter what and have fun doing it and that will be grow with you and be with you for a LONG time to come. Whereas a sport bike is like a "wild stallion", one that will "let" you ride it to get where you need to go, but will "buck" you off just as quickly, and get you their as fast as you want. But at the same time isn't one to be "tamed" or even one that you would WANT to take on a long trip and one that as you get older it becomes harder and harder to actually enjoy riding it.
Ever since I was a kid, I've always been drawn to cruiser just because of the long history of them and the overall aesthetic . But now that I am older, I see myself leaning more towards naked bikes for their versatility.
Vulcan S Vs RE Super Meteor 650 which one is better ( regardless of price) ?
My Harley is old, fat, and slow, just like me. I got no particular place to be, and all day to get there.
I like mine because it’s more comfortable, I’ve rode a ninja 250r and my street glide about the same distance (years apart) and the ninja wasn’t idea for 10hrs of riding, I have room to store stuff on my street glide, aftermarket part options are more beneficial, I like being able to stretch out on the bike, I have a backrest and can sit back against something, I don’t care what people think of me and my HD, I still ride curves on my HD and Honda shadow.
Have you ever seen a motorcycle cop rodeo? The slow speed maneuvers etc and that is a harley davidson road king or Electra glide sport or road glide. Does not seem to hold them up much. And as to having an opinion based on what someone rides or what they wear...that is their problem. And the value of a Harley is how long they last and how much you can customize them.
Having owned 2 “cruisers” in the past, a 1999 Harley Superglide and a 2017 yamaha bolt, I currently own a 2003 Honda Hornet 919 and with the Corbin seat that it came with, it really eats up miles much better than any cruiser I’ve ever owned OR ridden for that matter. I think a middleweight Japanese naked bike really is the best “cruiser” that there is.
Corbin seats end up on most of my bikes... love them.
I'm 5'4". I live in the Philippines - where road traffic is awful in the city. I'm not rich. I don't like to race.
The Honda Rebel 500 is the perfect bike for me. Lean angle is never an issue.
I don't look stupid riding at 30-40kph. It's not noisy. It can go fast pretty quick. A normal person like me doesn't need to go more than 150kph - I can manage my time pretty well.
tell me, what am I missing out on?
When was the last time that you've ridden a bike for hours on a long haul? Not just a couple of hours, but for quite a few. The ergonomics of a cruiser are a lot more comfortable for some of us, in such a circumstance, than the ergos of other bikes. Especially if you are contending with a physical limitation or ailment of your body's.
Exactly! A chronic pain sufferer like me wouldn't feel too hot after hugging a sport tank for hours on end. The ergos of a cruiser and the function it was built for would be a better fit.
Adventure bikes take the cake in that regard (unless you’re vertically challenged)
@@talltale9760 I am. Just scraping 5'6"
For me personally… a big reason was terminator 2. Arnold riding around that cruiser makes owning one completely nostalgic for me. I’m in my early 40s so remember that well from being a kid.
Currently I own a 22 triumph rocket 3R but I would really like to own a sport bike one day! Great bike though and it’s a lot of fun 😁
Vulcan S 650 here-I am of “a certain age” and my daredevil days are just about over so this bike suits me just fine. However, just like anyone of my age, my head still turns when a Ninja 400 whizzes by…or a fetching 18 year old slowly walks by😉
I ride a hardtail chopper. I love it cause it's completely comfortable and I can ride for hours and go extremely long miles with with it. Most people who say that choppers are just bar hopper bikes clearly have never ridden one before. Not every is about performance and speed. Sometimes riding is just about being alone with your thoughts and seeing the world in the best IMAX view as I call it. If people don't get that's cool. I started off my riding days with sport bikes but I eventually got over that and found cruisers are more my thing and haven't looked back since.
Took the MSF last summer and really enjoyed it (obviously passed). Found Yammie, DanDan, etc... and spent hours watching and listening to videos. Bought a '09 Suzuki C50T for $2600 bucks, why? Lighweight, comfy, zero maintenance. Honestly though, I would love to have some type of adventure bike in the garage too (don't tell my wife). Kids are older and want nothing to do with me so, yeah. I think this is the start of something beautiful. Lots of great rides in my home state of Maine.
Amazing brother. Hope you’re enjoying it. I’m about to take the safety course in a couple of weeks. First time rider here so excited for the adventure. Trying to decide between the ninja 400 and rebel 500
You just scratch a painful blister! I agree, style over performance. For my taste, lighter cruisers (Rebel, Sportster, Scouts, Nightsters) are the choice. But nakeds are awesome. I am 53, and I can ride anything, but on a normal naked, will feel like on a middle age crisis, style wise, you know. I ride a Nightster because of the smooth handling and modern mill proposition. But at the end, having fun with any bike is what matters, especially if it matches your very own style. Thanks.
There are Japanese cruiser that’s 1500? I’d been looking for one, where can I find one? Send links please.
Took MSF course last year but I still haven’t had my motorcycle yet. I prefer cruiser style motorcycle because of its lean-back, feet forward position. I also prefer the upright neutral as well. I’m not into super bike style, looks uncomfortable. I like modern cruiser, retro looking, Japanese UJM and adventure style motorcycles.
I owned a 1997 Kawasaki Vulcan 1500. It was a good bike but has several flaws. 1st. It is a four speed. That doesn't mean it isn't fast on the highways but I just like a 5 or 6 speed. 2nd. Those bikes often make a grinding sound when you try to shift to 2nd. 3rd. They are carb not injection and get really bad gas milage. Mine got 29 miles to the gallon. 4th. The oil pump gear is nylon not steel and on several of those bikes it breaks and so your motor is starved for oil and burns up.
Starting in 2000 Kawasaki fixed the oil gear and injected it and I think put a 5 speed in it. So if you want a Kawasaki 1500 get one after 1999. I have a Honda vtx 1300 and it is better than the Kawasaki 1500 although the 1500 was better on the interstate on long trips because that 4th gear is higher than the 5th gear on the vtx.
Being an owner of a 22’ Indian scout bobber, I can only offer my perspective. Like you said, it’s a fun peppy bike, fairly sporty with the cruiser comfort and look. I always loved the look of cruisers and that’s the majority of the reason, but I found myself really enjoying the lower ride height and the torque on the low end. I’ve grown my love in sport and naked bikes and plan to get one in the near future, but for street riding and every day riding a my scout will always take the cake.
Can you give some examples of older Metric cruisers? Looking for my first bike. Been looking at the Rebel500 but want to start off on something less expensive
I have a Yamaha V Star 650. Some will say it's too small and boring, but I love it and I can tell you I don't think there's a single bike that's more available. At least where I am you can find tons of them on Craigslist for 2-3000 bucks. It's relatively light, looks bigger than it is, and with an aftermarket exhaust (I put mine on myself in like 30 minutes) it actually sounds bigger than it is too
I wanted to start on a new sport bike, but my car blew up and I decided to get a bike. Ended up with a 97 Suzuki VZ800 Marauder and I love it. That loud V-Twin and comfortable seat make it a good commuter bike. I still want a sport bike, but now I can get a faster one by the time I have the money haha.
I have a kawasaki vulcan and a zx10r track bike. Before i turn my zx into a track bike I was scared af to park and walk away from it. But with my vulcan I can park it and know for a fact it would still be there when I come back lol.
I am 6'4". My wife is 4'11" she can't get on any bike other than a cruser. Even on some touring bikes, she can't reach the footrest. When she rides, she can only reach the ground comfortably of honda rebel 500 and harley softtail slim. Nothing else she feels comfortable on.
LOL - been asking this forever!!!!
I’ve been riding a few years. I’ve got a 17 sv650 I just got a track suit and Dunlop q5 for it. Also a 2017 z125, 08kx450f and a 08klx110
Style over performance 😊
Love it! Scrambler lover. Classic is timeless 👍
Admitted cruiser simp. However, no stock cruiser fails to in any way at legal speed. Choppers and heavily modified bikes are separate, not what I consider true cruisers. If you aren't wanting to fly around at excessive speeds, then cruisers are better. If you want to ride around town on a low stable bike, cruisers are better. Want to crunch huge miles, cruisers are more comfortable and storage is easily added. Basically for everything, on road, cruisers are better if you're not doing hooligan bs.
I went the cruiser route because I have some lower body injuries, my leg/hip locks up if I have to fold it the way one does on standard or mid controls. So I pretty much have to have forwards to ride.
You missed a very important reason. They are easy to ride. Cruisers are a lot more laid back, and fit well when you don't want a "engaged " ride. Riding my mt09 gets heartrate up and makes me want to ride harder and faster. Riding one of my harleys helps me wind down and relax. Both have their place and which set of keys I grab just depends on my mood.
I've always been a huge VMAX 1700 fan. But I decided on a MT09 for my first. Even now that I'm ready to add another bike to the garage, I'm choosing the ZX14R. We'll see if I add one as a third bike. But the mt & zx cover my city & long distance needs & it'd honestly just be an extra flex. Plus I like to ride fast & nimble not sure how well the heavy vmax would handle.
Im a sport touring guy with a super blackbird but every now and then i like to take my dads dyna for a spin. I just love bikes
find me a sports tourer or adv with below 28 inch seat height and perfectly upright seating posture i ll sell off my cruiser and buy it right away
2 up riding is more comfortable. Long rides are easier. Just all around less drama free riding.
I bought my 05 suzuki boulevard c50 z for 1k from a HD dealer a few years ago. 33k miles. Runs absolutely amazing.
I like that you rode a dct. I have a 2014 ctx 700 dct as my second bike. I had a 86 en450 as my first bike total death trap disrepair. I also was young and broke. But thank you for helping get me into riding!
But what do you think about the new Buell FXR, I mean the Buell Super Cruiser. 😂
I'm a definite cruiser fan, and yes!, insufficient lean angle is my most common complaint. However I sat on a new Sportster S the other day and it sure seemed like it'd have significantly more lean angle that a typical bagger. It was a bike show, so no test rides, and it was snowing outside anyway. This summer I intend to ride one. Some of the heavy cruisers are capable of high speed, but what good is speed if you can't use it because you can't turn? It's a tough engineering problem though-- They want the low seat height, and to get lean angle you have to bring the feet up, and/or tuck them in closer to the center of the bike.
Comfort. There's nothing so comfortable as a typical cruiser for the long haul, including a Goldwing or the big Vulcans, et al. MANY factory seats, however, are uncomfortable. You have to spend another 500 to 800 dollars to get an aftermarket seat that's actually comfortable. Do the bike manufacturers not understand, or are they the ones who secretly own the aftermarket seat manufacturers? No one knows.
Seating position. You say the feet forward stance is awkward because you entered riding via the sport bike class (apparently). I say the feet-to-the-rear position is awkward, and makes literally no sense unless you're racing, or our for a short run at such high speed that thou need to be in that tucked position, more out of the 120 MPH wind. For riding long distance, nobody wants to be leaning on the bars all day. Or do you lean on the tank? No one knows. I was super interested in an Indian FTR until I sat on one and realized that I'd be leaning forward all day on that thing. No thanks. It needs mid controls, which will allow for more control on the flat track, and more confort on longer rides.
Price. First you responded only tot he high-dollar American cruisers. But absolutely; you can get an older Jap cruiser for FAR less, in excellent condition. If you want to save money, avoid the new Harleys and Indians. Pretty much everything else is thoroughly affordable.
Who told you that a Goldwing isn't a cruiser? That's weird, because they compete directly with the big Harley baggers.
I've owned more than a dozen each of sport bikes and cruisers. Went more than 10 years (mid 20s to mid 30s) riding only bikes without owning a car. I have made cross country trips on both types of bikes. I never had a real "need for speed" or desperate desire to scream down the road at 150+ mph though I have had plenty of bikes that were more than capable of that. After I hit my 40s I no longer cared for the "jockey" body posture and having my weight on my wrists on sport bikes. I find the seating position much more comfortable on a cruiser, and as I get older (now 57) being able to ride comfortably takes priority over sportiness. Another plus is my wife, same age I am, likes riding on the back of my cruiser with it's sissy bar and thickly padded seat and would find a sport bike much too uncomfortable to try to ride. Motorcycles for me should be a pleasure, not a chore or literal pain, to ride.
Aesthetically I find sport bikes beautiful but in a superficial way. They are basically just naked bikes, which I don't find all that pleasing to look at, sheathed in a thin covering of plastic that will eventually get it's inevitable cracks, scrapes, etc. Cruisers, for the most part, are more brutally honest. Most of them have "everything" proudly on display without the need to hide half the bike behind a plastic shell. They are heavier and tend to have more chrome and shiny bits than sport bikes, so it is a bit like comparing a 1960 Impala to a 1995 Camaro.
There will always be people who want to race a bike at ludicrous speed down the highway and ride wheelies and squid out on their futuristic looking hunk of plastic. There will also be the other group of people who love bikes just as much but get their pleasure from their bikes in a completely different way.
Good vid man. I’m a cruiser rider for 40 years (‘83 GL 1100 Goldwing). And I do see the upside of a lot of other styles, especially the adv bikes, sport bikes however just look painful to ride, maybe because I am 6’2”. Regarding ‘leaning into turns’, modern cruisers lean and turn just fine - seen you review them. The big upside with cruisers for me, a 500km ride in relative comfort. 😊
They're great for long rides across a big country with wide roads. It all depends on where you are and what you use it for
Because we like the riding position and the styling/sound. It makes us happy.
I am a new rider with a Shadow. I recently also got a naked bike - Suzuki bandit because I need a more powerful bike for A driving test (Europe rules). The Shadow is much easier and more comfortable to be ride but has much less grunt and is less nimble. However, with just 4 gears instead of 6 is much easier to downshift. There is no good reason for four gears between 1 and 6 on the Bandit since it is plenty torquy at 30 mph in 6th. The extra gears make quick downshifting tricky.
I've got a hell of a decision man. Making a cruiser purchase this week and it's down between a Honda Shadow Aero 750 or a Suzuki Intruder 800, both are priced really well....HELP! lol.
This dude must come from a reporting or communications background. Speaks really well and clear.
Dude.... IMHO, this is kinda overthinking it. Some guys like like brunettes, some like blondes, gingers, some like everything or even other dudes. Some people like cute people, some like'em bossy, quiet, outgoing. .... and we don't know why. It's just pointless to try find a logical reason coz maybe there isn't one.
I ask myself the same thing about Sportbikes. Why the hell would anyone who doesn’t live at a racetrack want one?
All Bikes Are Fun And It Really is about your Preference
I got a scout sixty abs as my first bike and it’s been amazing. It’s peppy, fun, and relatively comfortable even with my prior neck/back injury. I’m also 5’4 and can comfortably move it around. Although I wanna be a fast boi like my friends I do love my bike and it’s fast enough.
It’s an old man’s bike(>29). I have back, joint, and kinds of aches didn’t know existed. Being over 40, if I ride a sports bike for more than 30 minutes, I’ll need assistance getting off, and a week to recover.
Getting old is a bliss!
I have both a 88 nt 650 lean it and rip it and a xl 1200c with saddlebags when i go to store to carry stuff home and go slow and loud pipes yes it its a harley thing..lol
Got a GSXR 600 and a bobbered out Xv535 Yamaha with foot clutch, suicide shift and forward controls 😂 both have their perks, it’s just a total mindset change going from one to the other. I can crank the Yamaha pretty hard on bends…regularly scrape the foot pegs, and it’s light and nimble enough to throw it around a bit at speed, but the gixxer is on a whole other level at that sort of riding obviously. Horses for courses etc 😂👌🏽