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Well done. Except, there are lies being pushed out by outlets like Fox. Corporate media is now driven purely for profit. Grifting is now the norm. Like the prosperity gospel. Small groups are driving the narrative and lying to millions of people for money. Orwellian is a cliche but it’s not far off. It all comes down to greed. Money and power. Just look at how our society is being divided. Why are so many people listening to someone like Joe Rogan? Petersen or Shapiro? Fox? Etc..
Hes very much ahead of whats coming. my biggest criticism is his lack of self introspection to realize others have done the same as him. the fact theres zero critics in these comments isnt entirely good, as hes at risk of becoming as near sighted. recognizing the cycle is important, but the important thing is timing. the "new" elite need to get a proper footing before you can come head on at them for their ideas. he recognizes them, but he has to go after those. you can't do a 'no true scottsman' falacy of sorts by just saying they are hypocrites. the ideas must be proven to be untrue. not to meantion generalizations and assumptions must be made to even have a 10,000 ft above conversation. this video was incredibly stimulating, so while i am a critic of the critic, i mearly want to do exactly what he wants. have the boring, mondane conversation, not the click bate headline.
"The truth just doesn't get the clicks." An excellent final statement. I find as the media landscape develops into the digital age, getting to the truth becomes ever more difficult, takes up ever more energy. Yet, there is one piece of advice I'd like to give to anyone who's genuinely interested and doesn't just look for confirmation: be wary of conformity. Any conformity. Especially the kind of conformity that results if you are drawn into a group with which you feel to have a rapport. If you stay honest to yourself, it never lasts. Always be prepared to be the dissident voice. At least in anything important. I agree with certain talking points of this New Elite, but I remain detached from them.
Even if you agree with them that doesn't mean you have the truth.The content providers who add show notes to demonstrate how their opinion may have been formed or confirmed at least are genuine in my opinion, and often are way ahead of the curve because they know where to look. The folks I pay most attention to for useful information are almost all banned from YT. and maintain a website to direct you to a media portal for their content. The really big names are rarely on top of things that I find out months and even years earlier because its not majorly profitable to really dig and flush out all the corruption.
Okay. Just be warned. ANYONE can be a UA-camr. So no matter how charismatic or dumb they are, they all started with the recoding camera, not credentials.
@@--Ezra-- IMHO, you have to be a good speaker, or give me pretty crap to watch...but this guy does good at both, honestly could prolly listen to him read a phonebook with that accent.
Thanks, Then & Now. Your content restores some of my dwindling faith in humanity. Not because you're discussing humans being great in this video but because you're willing to really think about the challenges in society and treat them as more than after-thoughts while we all go back to just doing what we're told. I tip my cap to you, gentlemen.
Think about the amount of Randoms on comments giving it their own 2 cents and how much less in-fighting there is on the comments sections of videos like these. I'm 28 now but when I was 8 on the internet and had an edgy older brother living in the middle of nowhere. It's morbid but after seeing what I saw in the old internet back then I definitely remember how people who are likely in their late 40s and 50s now talked to each other online. I think the internet is exactly like a part 2 of the printing press. I think all of these guys are all living on borrowed time. They can't market to an audience that is too poor to relate to. I could see Gen Z and millennials recreating and setting up new institutions overtime. I dont think a lot of us even want to take over the old organizations and the genie is out of the bottle on education. They can gaslight as long as they want but if they do not have imagination or creativity boredom and despair will steamroll them
You pretty much nailed it regarding US news. I’m now 50, but as a lad my old man wouldn’t allow cable into our home. We had channel 2, 4 & 5 plus 7 & 11. ABC nbc cbs and PBS…..until…about age 12, enter FOX. I noticed right away the news wasn’t the same. They creeped in at first, and grabbed me with the Simpsons and Married with children. Might as well have been adult entertainment, but I distinctly remember thinking “something has changed “. Great work my friend.
You’re media illiterate. From the context clues I take it you live in NY trying to associate channel numbers to networks. Different markets have networks on different channels in case you didn’t know. Of course this UA-camr would love our media to be nationalizes and he doesn’t even know squat about domestic media!
News Flash: The "news" has NEVER not been biased. People were just too dumb to realize it back then. Yes, your dad's news, grandpa's news, etc... ALL biased. You seriously believe the news was honest, fair, and completely unbiased during the era of Slavery? Reconstruction? Jim Crow? Segregation? Seriously!? I've got a fancy new bridge in NYC I'd like to sell you.
@@realandthebandit2535 MSNBC is owned by a Pentagon contractor, G.E., who fired Donahue when he challenged the efficacy of W's Iraq war intel. He was right, the war was waged on false premises, killed five thousand US vets, and five hundred thousand Iraqis but got W a carrier landing photo-op during election season, which turned Chris Mathews on and got W elected so he could appoint two SCOTUS justices, ...pro-life!!! F.O.X. fans think it is liberal.
Why not make one yourself? I was thinking about how our economic base influences our society and culture. As a form of media youtube (& others) seems to be able to incentivise people to behave and think in a ruthlessly capitalistic manner, but without any capital. Like playing the game, but with no traditional reward. I think it conditions people to except it's values and priciples making them less likely to challenge it. Is yt an example of capitalism's self reinforcing & brainwashing facility? What do you think? 😁
Fantastic video my friend!!!! I'm 30 and I think everyone around my age and younger ESPECIALLY need to watch this. I've found myself falling into the trap of the old media (CNN, FOX, etc) being 'biased' (to sum it up) and the new (Rogan, Peterson, etc) being 'true', for lack of a better word.. The idea that it's a modern take on the same old playbook has never occurred to me. Keep doing what you do. This is important work!
The USA is fifty-sixth on the Press Freedom Index for a reason. 90 percent of US media is in 8 corporate hands, and 77 percent is in six hands. CEOs of all 8 donated to Trump. They love an ignorant public who proved their gullibility by believing tucker carlsson's "Covid is a hoax" meme after CDC told the media and red states that 80 percent of the 1st wave of Covid deaths were FICA pensioners and dying reduced entitlement outlays. 700,000 FICA pensioners refused vaccines that could keep them alive and died. FICA canceled their payroll tax hike which rupert and tucker were facing. The anti-vax memes were to reduce entitlement outlays and boost the mortuary services index to a 27 percent gain YTD in aug '21. America's eugenics of pensioners went off without a peep of concern. VT lost 10 per 100K to COVID, and SD killed 107 per 100k because 81 of those were FICA pensioners who needed to be put down like a South Dakota puppy, without a gravel pit, to reduce entitlement outlays. Aussies lost 10,000 to Covid with a 27,000,000 population. Florida has 22,000,000 and Desantis killed 87,000 with Covid and bragged about reducing entitlement outlays. Red states had a 900 to 1000 percent higher kill rate than states and countries that consider the eugenics of pensioners to be unsavory. But, church attendance and revenue spiked from all the funerals, especially in the pro-life states.
Oh HELL yes it’s a good day when I try ti decide what to listen TK while I work just as I get a notification for a new Then & Now video!! So excited to watch 👌🏻👌🏻
This was such an informative video, you touched on very important points about alternative media. I hadn’t thought about the aspect of appealing to the masses by implying being marginalized, ostracized, and being for the people. I do know that there is something for everyone, no matter the medium, social programming/social engineering has to offer a vast array of ideologies, subjects, etc to entice people to be distracted from the truth and reality. It is a hard fight to try to keep out of the traps set before us. Thank you so much for making this video!
Have watched you for a while now. I listened to 3 hours of AI. I'm a computer programmer. I've learned more about AI from you that I learned from school. From that simple visual of a network organizing geometrically, I understood neural networks. I'm also retired and 75 years old. I'm worried about the future. Like many of us. In the United States we have the rise of what I feel is actually an attempt to nullify The values we obtained from, "the enlightenment". The belief that we were born whole, unsinned. That we are all the value, and we are rational. If we become educated. These are all under attack right now here. Keep up the good work. I think I signed in and paid for you for a year. If I didn't, let me know. This thing on the media was great!
School isnt for education anymore is just an accreditation approved by the state to get a job. To achieve education these days one must take the private route, for example private educators who post videos like these.
At the half hour mark, I was suddenly reminded of the frustration the early communists had in Russia when they were trying to teach the peasants to read in hope of producing political awareness. Many of the peasants used their newfound literacy to read fiction and persisted with indifference towards politics.
@@lana-jg4ho this insight came from Daniel from the WHAT IS POLITICS youtube channel and podcast. He has simply the best channel for political theory
Communists teaching someone about political "awareness" sounds like something out of an article from The Onion with hindsight, knowing how that ideology has done and run things where they've been able to gain a foot hold.
The wind always blows towards money. 💰💰 Question the motives of your sources people. And yes, the truth doesn’t get the clicks but it is always attainable for those who seek it. Great video!
With that said, I recommend reading an obscure sweedish philosopher. Alexander Bard wrote in the 2000 a book called "The Netocrats", a new elite that will rise and prove the movement from Capitalism to Attentionalism. Tech barons and influencers reign in this new world and the new elites have more a triangular shape of hierarchy but at the same time, multiple piramids will form around different epistemic commons
Information was beautifully presented in the first part. Then selectively ignored when it came time to smear others. A group who deserves valid critique, at that!
There is so much AI-generated misinformation on UA-cam with thumbnails like "They are taking this down", "They don't want you to know this" or, the best one "You or you have 24 hours left". Your video was refreshing, thank you for some realism. I am a subscriber and love your channel, much appreciated.
Titles like exactly that and others similar are over a decade old and were once even more widely used (you know, because stupid people).. My personal fav was "BANNED VIDEO" common way back when people used to make conspiracy videos about the illusive and powerful "Illuminatti".. And Bush/Cheney masterminding the 911 tragedy.. Then came the slough of clickbait reaction trigger titles for vids all about rappers and music industry ppl engaging in weird late night homosexual orgies deep in the California wilderness among the redwood trees with strange ancient pagan rituals and friend/family human sacrifices in order to advance their fame n fortune.. Surely much of that kind of content is deliberate misinfo/disinfo but also unfortunately there was plenty of it created by true believers and there always has and will be scores of half wits waiting to hop on and ride the newest and or most popular ready made conspiracy theory mystery saga's, the new form is echo chamber model tailored to popular bias like Q'anon. Sometimes I feel like I'm starting to understand and agree with Chinas intense censorship of internet/media. ;)
@@nikko.lottsahcocc6917 Bush couldn't mastermind anything. Cheney and Rummy asked for details of the PDB stating "OBL determined to use planes to attack buildings" when W, the most incurious POTUS ever (before trump) said, "OK Brownie you covered your ass, now let's move on." No questions about what kind of planes, how many, what buildings, how many casualties, nothing. Six weeks (or months) earlier a Cessna did a suicide crash into a TX IRS headquarters to protest taxes. W and others thought Cessnas were crashing into buildings on 9/11, and when Card informed W of the 2nd attack when he was at the school reading to kids, W asked "Cessnas", as shown in "Fahrenheit 9/11" by Michael Moore. Project for a New American Century was conjured by Rummy and Cheney after they worked together under G Ford. They wanted Clinton to attack Iraq after the 1st WTC bombing but he refused. SCOTUS denied FL their vote for Gore to put a moron in place who would go to war when they told him to. They knew he would try to stop the OBL attack if he knew they were commercial passenger planes so the TX IRS Cessna suicide mission was perfect. These are my conclusions after reading the transcript of the 9/11 congressional inquiry. I don't do conspiracies. Adam Curtis's "The Power of Nightmares" on BBC and UA-cam was helpful in my conclusions.
That's just regular old clickbait, not much different from the tabloid press of any political persuasion. "X did Y. You can't guess what happened next." "Big scoop X. You don't want to miss this." "Big-name TV personality ended her career and was forced off set after hilarious meltdown." (no, there was a small argument, but nothing serious, and nobody was fired)
Starting at 55:16 you have a constant bass frequency that ends about 30 seconds later. You may want to edit this out as it's very distracting especially for those listening on studio monitors.
@@user35678_ttI’ve never heard of a Critical Thinking teacher or class in American high school curriculum, although critical thinking is a large part of several other subjects.
The history was interesting but about half way through, you completely lost your true north. Unfortunately you also missed the most important and critical aspects that you failed to expose. Legacy media is primarily propaganda owned and controlled by one major interest.
This was excellent. Thank you. Your work manifests the kind of personal passion and dedication to accuracy and thoughtfulness I understand and relate to.
Thank you for taking the time to compile and understand the information for the video! It was well produced and informational. Will be subscribing, and supporting you on patreon for just $1/mo is very tempting
I don't understand why you do this at this level. I'm always thankful! But just... Floored Everytime that someone I haven't met will talk to me about something and I feel more, and not less human.
There is nothing better than finding a channel dedicated to quality and insightful productions that are more than just titillation and dramatic flare. Keep up the good work.
You've always made good work. But this video is a perfection of your craft and philosophy. I consider myself relatively well informed, but thanks to this video I feel I've gained a new complex and useful understanding of how the historical, technological, and economic pressures present in the evolution of news media shaped the medium into what it is today, and how those factors continue to do so. I'm so grateful for this new perspective, and have so much respect for all the work and care you have put into crafting meaningful videos with the intention of helping folks see the world more clearly, with all of it's complexity. I intend to donate to you as soon as I can afford to, especially considering what I've just learned about how the need for funding, and the type of funding, shapes the medium itself.
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you forgot to include "Inventing Reality" by michael parenti in your video.
Well done. Except, there are lies being pushed out by outlets like Fox. Corporate media is now driven purely for profit. Grifting is now the norm. Like the prosperity gospel. Small groups are driving the narrative and lying to millions of people for money. Orwellian is a cliche but it’s not far off. It all comes down to greed. Money and power. Just look at how our society is being divided. Why are so many people listening to someone like Joe Rogan? Petersen or Shapiro? Fox? Etc..
Liked and subscribed 👍🏻
Let’s get real knowledge out there.
Let us know how to do that !
This video is unbelievably prescient in regards to what has happened - we need to continue this dialogue!
Hes very much ahead of whats coming. my biggest criticism is his lack of self introspection to realize others have done the same as him. the fact theres zero critics in these comments isnt entirely good, as hes at risk of becoming as near sighted. recognizing the cycle is important, but the important thing is timing. the "new" elite need to get a proper footing before you can come head on at them for their ideas. he recognizes them, but he has to go after those. you can't do a 'no true scottsman' falacy of sorts by just saying they are hypocrites. the ideas must be proven to be untrue.
not to meantion generalizations and assumptions must be made to even have a 10,000 ft above conversation.
this video was incredibly stimulating, so while i am a critic of the critic, i mearly want to do exactly what he wants. have the boring, mondane conversation, not the click bate headline.
man, i love this guy's videos. so unbelievably underrated
Yes, he's great
Thank you for all the incredible hard work that has gone into producing this resource. Much-needed and much appreciated!
It's dishonest like most mainstream media it's pretending to challenge
Yesss, another long video full of quality and with no ads that I can enjoy for years! Thank you so much Then & Now!
Okay bot
It literally has ads.
Just have youtube ad free. I never get one single ad. It worth money
Except now he's pushing the agenda of the elites... Then & Now has fallen.
I can't imagine anyone finding this either entertaining or enlightening enough to rewatch. Good for you
Deeply grateful for all the knowledge I’ve learnt from you over the years
Commenting to feed the algorithm monster
Me too.
Replying to feed it as well 😂
@@aealaeddin I have stopped commenting on U Tube videos because my data hasn't received payment from AI.
Lets go
Yippie
"The truth just doesn't get the clicks." An excellent final statement. I find as the media landscape develops into the digital age, getting to the truth becomes ever more difficult, takes up ever more energy. Yet, there is one piece of advice I'd like to give to anyone who's genuinely interested and doesn't just look for confirmation: be wary of conformity. Any conformity. Especially the kind of conformity that results if you are drawn into a group with which you feel to have a rapport. If you stay honest to yourself, it never lasts. Always be prepared to be the dissident voice. At least in anything important. I agree with certain talking points of this New Elite, but I remain detached from them.
I don't want the mainstream media "truth", I don't buy their ideas anymore, anything that's not that have my attention.
Even if you agree with them that doesn't mean you have the truth.The content providers who add show notes to demonstrate how their opinion may have been formed or confirmed at least are genuine in my opinion, and often are way ahead of the curve because they know where to look. The folks I pay most attention to for useful information are almost all banned from YT. and maintain a website to direct you to a media portal for their content. The really big names are rarely on top of things that I find out months and even years earlier because its not majorly profitable to really dig and flush out all the corruption.
Who are these people?
@@fdssdfsdfs far right demagogues that believe that everything is a conspiracy that mostly appeal to incels and the like
@@davidturoff8017 Are you talking about Alex Jones? If not, who? I'm interested.
Thanks!
That video was worth the wait. Many thanks and keep them coming!
Love this channel. Keep it up!
Thanks!
No one has cable anymore. I just watch UA-cam now
Okay. Just be warned. ANYONE can be a UA-camr. So no matter how charismatic or dumb they are, they all started with the recoding camera, not credentials.
What is amazing YT cleaned up its act a lot. TV went backwards to compete. ua-cam.com/users/shortsrHSgiTNieQk?si=7Lx7SKJ8NLipk4oN
My parents bought cable again, they were so bored of UA-cam😂 content sucks now
@MyPsAndQs
You're just not looking hard enough. Been on UA-cam damn near every day for 10+ years. Never been bored.
@Rangernewb5550 you say that as if media quality is objective. We've all been on here 10+ yrs and it's copied and pasted bs
Whoooooo!
In the words of Cody Johnston, “a short little video, don’t look at the time code!”
I’m looking forward to this!
And still i did watch it multiple times. I love long video essays.
@@--Ezra-- IMHO, you have to be a good speaker, or give me pretty crap to watch...but this guy does good at both, honestly could prolly listen to him read a phonebook with that accent.
Haha...love me some more news. Oddly enough.
All hail lord warmbo
I really enjoyed this man. It's monumental work. I've been watching you since Spinoza. Well done!
Outstanding work, I deeply appreciate this piece of art, journalism and a deep dive into communication theory.
Me too
Awesome work 💫
Nice. Looking forward to seeing this.
Cheers mate
Always a good day when Then and Now uploads
that is so true!
Thank you so much 🙏🏻
Wow this is so amazing! I'm so glad to hear a human written in depth documentary. Thanks for being a proud content creator.
Thanks, Then & Now. Your content restores some of my dwindling faith in humanity. Not because you're discussing humans being great in this video but because you're willing to really think about the challenges in society and treat them as more than after-thoughts while we all go back to just doing what we're told. I tip my cap to you, gentlemen.
Think about the amount of Randoms on comments giving it their own 2 cents and how much less in-fighting there is on the comments sections of videos like these.
I'm 28 now but when I was 8 on the internet and had an edgy older brother living in the middle of nowhere.
It's morbid but after seeing what I saw in the old internet back then I definitely remember how people who are likely in their late 40s and 50s now talked to each other online.
I think the internet is exactly like a part 2 of the printing press. I think all of these guys are all living on borrowed time.
They can't market to an audience that is too poor to relate to. I could see Gen Z and millennials recreating and setting up new institutions overtime.
I dont think a lot of us even want to take over the old organizations and the genie is out of the bottle on education.
They can gaslight as long as they want but if they do not have imagination or creativity boredom and despair will steamroll them
Garbage
Excellent work. The quality of your research and presentation is first class.
Been looking forward to this! Thank you
You pretty much nailed it regarding US news. I’m now 50, but as a lad my old man wouldn’t allow cable into our home. We had channel 2, 4 & 5 plus 7 & 11. ABC nbc cbs and PBS…..until…about age 12, enter FOX. I noticed right away the news wasn’t the same. They creeped in at first, and grabbed me with the Simpsons and Married with children. Might as well have been adult entertainment, but I distinctly remember thinking “something has changed “. Great work my friend.
I think things really started to change with CNN when they introduced 24 hour news
@@timelapsega seemed more like real news at first though, to me anyway. I didn’t watch too much of that, but yeah 24/7war coverage.
You’re media illiterate. From the context clues I take it you live in NY trying to associate channel numbers to networks. Different markets have networks on different channels in case you didn’t know. Of course this UA-camr would love our media to be nationalizes and he doesn’t even know squat about domestic media!
News Flash: The "news" has NEVER not been biased. People were just too dumb to realize it back then.
Yes, your dad's news, grandpa's news, etc... ALL biased.
You seriously believe the news was honest, fair, and completely unbiased during the era of Slavery? Reconstruction? Jim Crow? Segregation?
Seriously!?
I've got a fancy new bridge in NYC I'd like to sell you.
@@realandthebandit2535 MSNBC is owned by a Pentagon contractor, G.E., who fired Donahue when he challenged the efficacy of W's Iraq war intel. He was right, the war was waged on false premises, killed five thousand US vets, and five hundred thousand Iraqis but got W a carrier landing photo-op during election season, which turned Chris Mathews on and got W elected so he could appoint two SCOTUS justices, ...pro-life!!! F.O.X. fans think it is liberal.
Amazing video Lewis mate
I appreciate your work. Keep doin what you do, more people need to hear your take. 👏
You have done excellent work!
Excellent video. Simply the most informative and even-handed essay on media I've seen. Thanks
A great job as usual. Thanks for this video.
Thanks!
This is a great video! I was hoping for more nuanced comments, but I guess it is still too early.
Why not make one yourself?
I was thinking about how our economic base influences our society and culture. As a form of media youtube (& others) seems to be able to incentivise people to behave and think in a ruthlessly capitalistic manner, but without any capital. Like playing the game, but with no traditional reward. I think it conditions people to except it's values and priciples making them less likely to challenge it.
Is yt an example of capitalism's self reinforcing & brainwashing facility? What do you think? 😁
@@kennycube5126 one thing you can say about yt : the ads are getting longer and more irritating.
Thanks
As usual, great content. It´s amazing you pull this off in a team consisting of only 2 people. Congratulations!
It's easier when you have prefabricated talking points. But great work all the same.
Thank you for your work
Love you! Your work is much appreciated.
I love these long form videos - the AI and Internet ones were great, so I'm mega excited about this.
Love this channel
As does your confirmation bias.
Thanks~T&N! Journalistic Integrety is Still Alive! Appreciate You~ 😀*
Fantastic video my friend!!!! I'm 30 and I think everyone around my age and younger ESPECIALLY need to watch this. I've found myself falling into the trap of the old media (CNN, FOX, etc) being 'biased' (to sum it up) and the new (Rogan, Peterson, etc) being 'true', for lack of a better word.. The idea that it's a modern take on the same old playbook has never occurred to me.
Keep doing what you do. This is important work!
The USA is fifty-sixth on the Press Freedom Index for a reason. 90 percent of US media is in 8 corporate hands, and 77 percent is in six hands. CEOs of all 8 donated to Trump. They love an ignorant public who proved their gullibility by believing tucker carlsson's "Covid is a hoax" meme after CDC told the media and red states that 80 percent of the 1st wave of Covid deaths were FICA pensioners and dying reduced entitlement outlays. 700,000 FICA pensioners refused vaccines that could keep them alive and died. FICA canceled their payroll tax hike which rupert and tucker were facing. The anti-vax memes were to reduce entitlement outlays and boost the mortuary services index to a 27 percent gain YTD in aug '21. America's eugenics of pensioners went off without a peep of concern.
VT lost 10 per 100K to COVID, and SD killed 107 per 100k because 81 of those were FICA pensioners who needed to be put down like a South Dakota puppy, without a gravel pit, to reduce entitlement outlays. Aussies lost 10,000 to Covid with a 27,000,000 population. Florida has 22,000,000 and Desantis killed 87,000 with Covid and bragged about reducing entitlement outlays. Red states had a 900 to 1000 percent higher kill rate than states and countries that consider the eugenics of pensioners to be unsavory. But, church attendance and revenue spiked from all the funerals, especially in the pro-life states.
My first Then & Now video! Wow!
I love the way your videos are put together and the way you articulate really nuanced ideas. Thanks for what you do.
Particularly well-sourced; the synthesis is excellent. Thanks!
The Truth is usually complex while a lie is always simple. As humans we prefer simplicity over complexity.
Oh HELL yes it’s a good day when I try ti decide what to listen TK while I work just as I get a notification for a new Then & Now video!! So excited to watch 👌🏻👌🏻
Bravo, good show ole chap. Subscribed
Unbelievably high bar of quality on these videos
Omg new video!!!
Omg!
this was impressively well created and reearched. keep it up!
This was such an informative video, you touched on very important points about alternative media. I hadn’t thought about the aspect of appealing to the masses by implying being marginalized, ostracized, and being for the people. I do know that there is something for everyone, no matter the medium, social programming/social engineering has to offer a vast array of ideologies, subjects, etc to entice people to be distracted from the truth and reality. It is a hard fight to try to keep out of the traps set before us. Thank you so much for making this video!
Another brilliantly researched video.
Your effort is appreciated.
An extraordinary piece of work.
This is one of the best videos I've ever seen on UA-cam.
A very timely video. I specially loved the "Manufacturing Consent" part of it.
I read that years ago and loved it.
This is among the most comprehensive rundowns of human communication, media, and culture. Thank you so much!
Very good video
5 minutes in and already such a great take on the news a really nice eye opener thank you
Have watched you for a while now. I listened to 3 hours of AI. I'm a computer programmer. I've learned more about AI from you that I learned from school. From that simple visual of a network organizing geometrically, I understood neural networks.
I'm also retired and 75 years old. I'm worried about the future. Like many of us. In the United States we have the rise of what I feel is actually an attempt to nullify The values we obtained from, "the enlightenment". The belief that we were born whole, unsinned. That we are all the value, and we are rational. If we become educated. These are all under attack right now here. Keep up the good work. I think I signed in and paid for you for a year. If I didn't, let me know.
This thing on the media was great!
School isnt for education anymore is just an accreditation approved by the state to get a job.
To achieve education these days one must take the private route, for example private educators who post videos like these.
Long form content at its best with only two people. Thank you for this!
"The strong rule the weak and the clever govern the strong."
B. Rice
Well done Lewis.
Good documentary, your editor remains on point.
best documentary I've seen so far this year, well done!
I put off watching this til I had two hours to focus... Worth every minute. Well done.
At the half hour mark, I was suddenly reminded of the frustration the early communists had in Russia when they were trying to teach the peasants to read in hope of producing political awareness. Many of the peasants used their newfound literacy to read fiction and persisted with indifference towards politics.
They repeated the mistakes of the anarchists who came before them. Political awareness never develops as part of being preached at from above.
interesting!!!!
@@lana-jg4ho this insight came from Daniel from the WHAT IS POLITICS youtube channel and podcast. He has simply the best channel for political theory
Methinks you're misrepresenting the intentions of the bolsheviks
Communists teaching someone about political "awareness" sounds like something out of an article from The Onion with hindsight, knowing how that ideology has done and run things where they've been able to gain a foot hold.
You are doing exceptional work, my dude.
The wind always blows towards money. 💰💰 Question the motives of your sources people. And yes, the truth doesn’t get the clicks but it is always attainable for those who seek it. Great video!
Thank goodness
This was great. Thanks for making this
👍great video!! Thank you
Great stuff. I watched all of it
Thought-provoking video! Balanced, informative, and rigorously researched. Absolutely worth the wait. Thank you, Then and Now!
erm... reality check?
@@thebosstunawhich of your favourite little guys did he question?
Damn, impressive work once again. Cogent and well argued, as usual.
Thank you Lord! I was starting to feel famished waiting for the next one to drop.
This was wonderful. I didn't know what to expect but the level of analysis surprise me. Keep, the good work
With that said, I recommend reading an obscure sweedish philosopher. Alexander Bard wrote in the 2000 a book called "The Netocrats", a new elite that will rise and prove the movement from Capitalism to Attentionalism. Tech barons and influencers reign in this new world and the new elites have more a triangular shape of hierarchy but at the same time, multiple piramids will form around different epistemic commons
I’m going to have to watch this twice. There was a lot of information in here.
Information was beautifully presented in the first part. Then selectively ignored when it came time to smear others. A group who deserves valid critique, at that!
This channel is a goldmine
There is so much AI-generated misinformation on UA-cam with thumbnails like "They are taking this down", "They don't want you to know this" or, the best one "You or you have 24 hours left". Your video was refreshing, thank you for some realism. I am a subscriber and love your channel, much appreciated.
Titles like exactly that and others similar are over a decade old and were once even more widely used (you know, because stupid people).. My personal fav was "BANNED VIDEO" common way back when people used to make conspiracy videos about the illusive and powerful "Illuminatti".. And Bush/Cheney masterminding the 911 tragedy.. Then came the slough of clickbait reaction trigger titles for vids all about rappers and music industry ppl engaging in weird late night homosexual orgies deep in the California wilderness among the redwood trees with strange ancient pagan rituals and friend/family human sacrifices in order to advance their fame n fortune.. Surely much of that kind of content is deliberate misinfo/disinfo but also unfortunately there was plenty of it created by true believers and there always has and will be scores of half wits waiting to hop on and ride the newest and or most popular ready made conspiracy theory mystery saga's, the new form is echo chamber model tailored to popular bias like Q'anon.
Sometimes I feel like I'm starting to understand and agree with Chinas intense censorship of internet/media. ;)
Yeah, you just can't click on dumb thumbnails or else you have ruined your algorithm and are doomed to be suggested it non stop lol.
@@SubvertTheState You can click the thumbs down and add it to not interested list
@@nikko.lottsahcocc6917 Bush couldn't mastermind anything. Cheney and Rummy asked for details of the PDB stating "OBL determined to use planes to attack buildings" when W, the most incurious POTUS ever (before trump) said, "OK Brownie you covered your ass, now let's move on." No questions about what kind of planes, how many, what buildings, how many casualties, nothing. Six weeks (or months) earlier a Cessna did a suicide crash into a TX IRS headquarters to protest taxes.
W and others thought Cessnas were crashing into buildings on 9/11, and when Card informed W of the 2nd attack when he was at the school reading to kids, W asked "Cessnas", as shown in "Fahrenheit 9/11" by Michael Moore.
Project for a New American Century was conjured by Rummy and Cheney after they worked together under G Ford. They wanted Clinton to attack Iraq after the 1st WTC bombing but he refused.
SCOTUS denied FL their vote for Gore to put a moron in place who would go to war when they told him to. They knew he would try to stop the OBL attack if he knew they were commercial passenger planes so the TX IRS Cessna suicide mission was perfect. These are my conclusions after reading the transcript of the 9/11 congressional inquiry. I don't do conspiracies.
Adam Curtis's "The Power of Nightmares" on BBC and UA-cam was helpful in my conclusions.
That's just regular old clickbait, not much different from the tabloid press of any political persuasion.
"X did Y. You can't guess what happened next."
"Big scoop X. You don't want to miss this."
"Big-name TV personality ended her career and was forced off set after hilarious meltdown." (no, there was a small argument, but nothing serious, and nobody was fired)
Love your channel! You’re one of only two channels that I am a patron of and I truly appreciate the effort that goes into videos like this.
Starting at 55:16 you have a constant bass frequency that ends about 30 seconds later. You may want to edit this out as it's very distracting especially for those listening on studio monitors.
ha, I thought I was just REALLY high. Thank you
Love these longform videos. Hope I can donate again soon.
Never been happier to ignore the news
Unequivocally my favorite channel on the platform
These videos, let alone this especially, should be curriculum. I'm going to send this link to my high school political science teacher.
May be send it to your critical thinking teacher, first!
Critical thinking teacher FIRST before political cuz
Political is killing humanity
@@user35678_ttI’ve never heard of a Critical Thinking teacher or class in American high school curriculum, although critical thinking is a large part of several other subjects.
Thanks for hard work 🔥
The history was interesting but about half way through, you completely lost your true north. Unfortunately you also missed the most important and critical aspects that you failed to expose.
Legacy media is primarily propaganda owned and controlled by one major interest.
Which is?
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Oh, c'mon, you can't spot an antisemitic dog whistle as plain as that?
This was excellent. Thank you. Your work manifests the kind of personal passion and dedication to accuracy and thoughtfulness I understand and relate to.
This should be the introduction video for all of UA-cam
Yeah man, we should like, mandate it!
Your works are always exceptional. I am speechless
this is good shit
Feck yea
fantastic work!
i love your documentaries
since the spinoza one, u look friendableª!
Thank you for taking the time to compile and understand the information for the video! It was well produced and informational. Will be subscribing, and supporting you on patreon for just $1/mo is very tempting
I don't understand why you do this at this level. I'm always thankful! But just... Floored Everytime that someone I haven't met will talk to me about something and I feel more, and not less human.
Commenting for algorithm 😍😍
Me too!
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Me too!
There is nothing better than finding a channel dedicated to quality and insightful productions that are more than just titillation and dramatic flare. Keep up the good work.
Agreed! I love to learn
Yet another video that everyone should watch
You've always made good work. But this video is a perfection of your craft and philosophy. I consider myself relatively well informed, but thanks to this video I feel I've gained a new complex and useful understanding of how the historical, technological, and economic pressures present in the evolution of news media shaped the medium into what it is today, and how those factors continue to do so.
I'm so grateful for this new perspective, and have so much respect for all the work and care you have put into crafting meaningful videos with the intention of helping folks see the world more clearly, with all of it's complexity.
I intend to donate to you as soon as I can afford to, especially considering what I've just learned about how the need for funding, and the type of funding, shapes the medium itself.
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