Terrible Fire | Evolution of an Amiga Accelerator with Stephen Leary | Legends in The Cave

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    Terrible Fire accelerators for Amiga computers have become a staple part of any modern amigans diet. From A500 to CD32, Stephen Leary has been designing these boards to make our lives easier for some years now, so I thought it was an ideal time to learn all about the evolution of his project from inception to the present day.
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  • @TerribleFire
    @TerribleFire 9 місяців тому +162

    Absolute pleasure to come talk at The Cave... and the numerous low level trolling opportunities it presented :)

    • @diablothe2nd894
      @diablothe2nd894 9 місяців тому +3

      Great talk! But why miss out the A600 when it was your first amiga? You of all people know how little love our 600s got while we watched the 1200 get all the love lol

    • @JVHShack
      @JVHShack 9 місяців тому +4

      The one 68K based system that I'd like to see get some TF love are the early Macintosh systems. From the original 1984 up to the last one before the PPC architecture. Every one of them are doggedly slow in their original form. An accelerated Mac SE/30 would be a sight to behold.

    • @TerribleFire
      @TerribleFire 9 місяців тому +10

      @@diablothe2nd894 Unfortunately adding an accelerator to the A600 is non-trivial and i've decided to body swerve that whole ball of pain.

    • @diablothe2nd894
      @diablothe2nd894 9 місяців тому +3

      @@JVHShackThat's a great point. Back in the day the best Mac was an Amiga, as they strangley ran MacOS (through some form of emulation) faster than the Macs themselves. With a beefy upgrade those could be what they should've been.

    • @diablothe2nd894
      @diablothe2nd894 9 місяців тому +1

      @@TerribleFire Noooooo! The only option right now is the Vampire and we've been waiting for that to come back in stock for ages (years?) there's nothing in production right now :(

  • @gregskuza7166
    @gregskuza7166 3 місяці тому +1

    Stephen is a genius that made our machines sing like birds! Thank you very very much from all of us Amiga geeks!

  • @ksln
    @ksln 9 місяців тому +16

    This man is one of the giants upon shoulders we all stand on. Thanks for your effort, sir! Also extends to the entire team.

  • @005AGIMA
    @005AGIMA 9 місяців тому +8

    What a great presentation. Quite inspirational. I wish I had the skills to utilise downtime in such a productive way. The following these cards have is testament to the work Stephen has put in. Thanks for sharing the stories.

  • @gdonner
    @gdonner 9 місяців тому +5

    Stephen, a heartfelt thank you for all your ongoing, diligent work on these boards for the Amiga community--especially the challenge of the TF4060. I trust you'll soon find the breakthrough you need to get it sorted! My hat's off to you and everyone who is involved in making these boards a reality. It means a lot to the community!

  • @bitcoinbunker
    @bitcoinbunker 9 місяців тому +12

    Probably my favourite episode of the cave so far. What a great guy Stephen is 👌

  • @fredsmith1970
    @fredsmith1970 9 місяців тому +2

    I stumbled across the TerribleFire channel years ago. I haven't owned an Amiga for over 20 years, though still found Stephen's videos of diagnosing issues on early boards hypnotising. (And i know nothing about electron 56:40 ics)

  • @eraserVsilesia
    @eraserVsilesia 9 місяців тому +7

    Phew!!! At first i petrified, seeing the thumbnail telling me about a terrible fire in The Cave. But then i took a closer look :)

  • @matthiasmuller4702
    @matthiasmuller4702 9 місяців тому +12

    I really like, how Steven credited Till Harbaum. I met Till at university and still work with him today and he's a really nice guy and did a lot of stuff for old computers (C64, mist and a lot of smaller projects) and in the bluetooth area

  • @SJSsesco
    @SJSsesco 4 місяці тому +1

    Great presentation Steve and thanks to you & AllenPPC for my TF1260❤

  • @Snowcrash777
    @Snowcrash777 9 місяців тому +7

    Stephen is such a humble person considering how much he has done. Great guy. Thanks Stephen for ALL you do for the Amiga/Retro community!

  • @ridiculous_gaming
    @ridiculous_gaming 9 місяців тому +4

    I ordered a number of Steve's cards and have to mention that this gentleman is very humble. His CD32 cards are brilliant, affordable and simply amazing! I thank him for creating 030 cards, since these cpu's are still affordable compared to 060s. Jay Miner smiles at him from above!

  • @timothyp8947
    @timothyp8947 9 місяців тому +6

    Really enjoyed the talk. Great to know the history of the TF boards, and from the 'horse's mouth' too. Many thanks to Stephen for presenting and to Neil for arranging this and publishing the recording!

  • @brunorodriguesmaso
    @brunorodriguesmaso 9 місяців тому +17

    Stephen is an absolute legend!! I loved watching his YT TF channel and the work he was (and still is) putting out of cheer passion. Thank you Stephen

  • @xsm5525
    @xsm5525 9 місяців тому +3

    I got the 030 bro, Terrible 🔥is straight FIRE!! 🔥🔥🔥
    my sys info GOES HARD 🔥

  • @darknessnightfall
    @darknessnightfall 9 місяців тому +3

    Great watch. I just watch the channel because I owned these computers as a child. I do not do much with it. But I adore those kind freaks that keep the memories alive.

  • @CrashMidnick
    @CrashMidnick 9 місяців тому +3

    This guy is a legend !

  • @adamhinde9538
    @adamhinde9538 9 місяців тому +3

    What a fantastric interesting talk by Stephen, gutted I missed that one. I could have listened to him talk for hours! I hope he can come again and do a talk. A lovely guy

  • @DragonNova
    @DragonNova 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks Stephen, looking forward to what you do next 😊

  • @KrisGraney
    @KrisGraney 9 місяців тому +10

    Such a great talk by Stephen!

  • @Internationalmanofmysteries
    @Internationalmanofmysteries Місяць тому +1

    Thank you Stephen! 😎👍

  • @talideon
    @talideon 9 місяців тому +2

    10:04 - practically grinning from ear to ear seeing that!

  • @GadgetUK164
    @GadgetUK164 9 місяців тому +8

    Fantastic! Just fantastic! =D

  • @bobbus_74
    @bobbus_74 9 місяців тому +6

    This was a really interesting talk, even for an Atari ST user like myself (dont shoot!). It was also the first Patreon day I've attended, and I'll definitely be attending more.

  • @RDJ134
    @RDJ134 9 місяців тому +7

    Realy enjoyed this presenation. Thats why i love this channel so much, it's fun and informative at the same time.

  • @justin-g-360
    @justin-g-360 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks to Neil and Dr. Leary, good stuff!

  • @little_fluffy_clouds
    @little_fluffy_clouds 9 місяців тому +2

    Great talk, thank you. I don’t have my Amiga any more since my MiSTer does all
    I want from an Amiga platform nowadays, but this was a fascinating talk.

  • @geofftottenperthcoys9944
    @geofftottenperthcoys9944 9 місяців тому +4

    My first Amiga was also an A600HD, memory expansion, 40MB HDD. Played so much Dune 2000 on it!

  • @thebasset
    @thebasset 9 місяців тому +4

    Very interesting and informative.. great presentation... also man i miss the 90`s so much..easy to work on machines with big caps and resistors... also no speed cameras. Keep up the good work RMC

  • @MrThairacer
    @MrThairacer 9 місяців тому +1

    oh gosh :) it’s a pleasure to see this , what an adventure, my CD32 tell you Big thanks 🙏

  • @electricadventures
    @electricadventures 9 місяців тому +1

    A really good talk, Stephen seems like a really nice guy and has done some fantastic work for the Amiga community and now the MSX community.

  • @Typewriter71
    @Typewriter71 9 місяців тому +3

    That was a great presentation - and what a nice bloke too. Shame no one asked where that name came from - Ive always assumed it was from "The Gruffalo's Child" - "...his eyes are like pools of terrible fire...." - one of my kids favorites. :)

    • @TerribleFire
      @TerribleFire 9 місяців тому +4

      That and my best man's a pyromaniac.

  • @rinner2801
    @rinner2801 9 місяців тому +3

    Wow I haven't seen anything from Stephen in forever. I wish I could have been there.

  • @weepingscorpion8739
    @weepingscorpion8739 8 місяців тому +1

    Hats off to you, sir. I've been wanting a CD32 since I saw Neil's video a few years back but you're right, they're insanely expensive. But one day I will have one, I know that.
    And as for the insults and swear words, I saw Glen from CRG build the 1260 for the 1200 and I noticed there were three lines in Scottish Gaelic. I then went down a rabbit hole trying to translate it and I must say: Well played. :) You being from the Western Isles also makes sense as you have the Gaelic. Tapadh leibh for your accelerators. I will be picking one up for sure probably for the 500. Keep up the good work!

  • @digitalarchaeologist5102
    @digitalarchaeologist5102 8 місяців тому +2

    Absolutely brilliant and I always enjoy the dedication and the sheer smarts of people like Stephen and the mention of the BBoAH brought a tear to my eye.

  • @viscuine
    @viscuine 9 місяців тому +2

    at 24 mins in, re cd32 prices. totally agree. i had brand new (new old stock) cd32 in oem box and controllers around the same year and cost me £85 delivered. as there wasn't much software being sold 2nd hand, i just moved it on at what i paid for it. had i known the cd32 was going to get the TF treatment, i would have kept it lol

  • @cv643d
    @cv643d 9 місяців тому +4

    Built and tested my TF536 in July, working fine! Would love to build and add an TF2040 to my A2000EATX! :)

  • @diablothe2nd894
    @diablothe2nd894 9 місяців тому +6

    Once again the A600 misses out, even when it was his first Amiga. Great lineup of cards nonetheless and a great talk! Thank you :)

  • @fabiano8888
    @fabiano8888 9 місяців тому +3

    Absolutely fascinating to watch! More like that please!

  • @SiD3WiNDR
    @SiD3WiNDR 9 місяців тому +1

    That was a really cool talk!
    I'd not heard anyone call IDE "I'd" before though.... 😀

  • @slowlymakingsmoke
    @slowlymakingsmoke 9 місяців тому +2

    Great talk Stephen.

  • @jowi_24seven43
    @jowi_24seven43 8 місяців тому +1

    The A600HD (i believe it was 40MB) was my favourite computer. I could install and play from the HD Heart of China, and Rise of the dragon, without disk swapping.

  • @toaster4634
    @toaster4634 8 місяців тому +1

    Very fun presentation. Thank you very much for stopping by the cave. I have an A1500 that I've expanded to death. I'd love to have a TF card with an 040 or 060 CPU I could plug directly into the processor expansion slot. I saw the 040 card for the Amiga 2000 briefly in your presentation, is that something you plan on finishing?

  • @DaveByrdUK
    @DaveByrdUK 9 місяців тому +2

    that was rather fascinating. thank you very much.

  • @xaGe__
    @xaGe__ 9 місяців тому +2

    Great talk, thank you!

  • @zxrenew5642
    @zxrenew5642 9 місяців тому +3

    Nice one Stephen, very informative.

  • @Rockythefishman
    @Rockythefishman 7 місяців тому +1

    Really enjoied this one :)

  • @KieronWray
    @KieronWray 9 місяців тому +2

    thanks so much for the talk, fascinating! really informative and your passion and drivers really came across well. thanks

  • @ncstebb
    @ncstebb 9 місяців тому +4

    Stephen Leary! Massive fan of your work. Thanks so much for what you've done for our community.

  • @stephenelliott7071
    @stephenelliott7071 9 місяців тому +4

    I always enjoy the talks at the cave...I didn't see my name on the Patreon list at the end though unless I missed it lol.

    • @RMCRetro
      @RMCRetro  9 місяців тому +2

      Hi Stephen, the credit roll is due an update for the next video, I'll double check it for you

  • @Stabby666
    @Stabby666 9 місяців тому +3

    Really enjoyed this, thanks!

  • @LasseHuhtala
    @LasseHuhtala 9 місяців тому +3

    Great presentation.

  • @RetroPlayer4000
    @RetroPlayer4000 9 місяців тому +1

    Neil it's weird not seeing a new video for this long. Are you alright govenor

  • @NostalgiaForever100
    @NostalgiaForever100 9 місяців тому +2

    Cool presentation 🔥

  • @ericdezert
    @ericdezert 9 місяців тому +1

    really great video ! thanks a lot

  • @MadsonOnTheWeb
    @MadsonOnTheWeb 9 місяців тому +3

    The good thing about having a FPU all the time is for homebrew.

  • @przemysawwegrowski988
    @przemysawwegrowski988 9 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for all hard work! A board for A1000 will be nice (external one).

  • @andreaslizart7984
    @andreaslizart7984 8 місяців тому +1

    Legend!

  • @Textra1
    @Textra1 9 місяців тому +2

    Very cool.

  • @tekk9995
    @tekk9995 9 місяців тому

    Nice. Hearing that music reminds me of your RMX. Will there ever be a part 2?

  • @mwk1
    @mwk1 9 місяців тому +2

    Dobry Ziomuś 👍🍻

  • @nealhammersmith8798
    @nealhammersmith8798 9 місяців тому +1

    At 4:31 I could hear Sonic collecting a ring in the background.

    • @thebasset
      @thebasset 9 місяців тому

      well spotted

  • @leotoro51
    @leotoro51 9 місяців тому +1

    Thank God for subtitles ! 🤣

  • @banjoguyollie
    @banjoguyollie 9 місяців тому +3

    There was no fire ... I want my money back!!

    • @TerribleFire
      @TerribleFire 9 місяців тому

      Get back in your biffa bin

  • @DaveDoc1984
    @DaveDoc1984 9 місяців тому +3

    Was Mark there from Mark Fixes Stuff? :)

  • @newsolution5669
    @newsolution5669 8 місяців тому +1

    can someone tell me. why is no one developing a new set of specialized integrated circuits. what happened to the documentation for old specialized integrated circuits? does anyone have them? Where are they ? who owns them?! does anyone have any information or tips. ?

  • @drphilxr
    @drphilxr 9 місяців тому

    Did I miss the Sega Genesis/32X TF card ? Or did I assume there was one, based on the tweet/instagram notification short teaser?

    • @RMCRetro
      @RMCRetro  9 місяців тому +2

      That's next weeks video, now on early access to Patrons

  • @NorthWay_no
    @NorthWay_no 6 місяців тому

    "Obvious" next steps for accellerators: FPGA-based 68060 fully (pin)compatible core targeting high-end chips to break through the 68060 ceiling, and happily add in deleted instructions too (the Vampire is not for me as it has no MMU). Then when it has had all bugs hammered out, do a crowd-sourcing campaign to turn it into a fully fledged chip.

    • @TerribleFire
      @TerribleFire 5 місяців тому

      Or you could just buy the dies from NXP or whoever owns them these-days and do a run. Its probably less risky to go that route. You're still talking several million dollars and thats not something any hobbyist wants to get into.

  • @vertigoz
    @vertigoz 9 місяців тому +1

    It would be amazing if something could be done also regarding phase5

    • @uberdude2555
      @uberdude2555 9 місяців тому

      In what regard?

    • @vertigoz
      @vertigoz 9 місяців тому

      @@uberdude2555 a talk with the authors

  • @nickwallette6201
    @nickwallette6201 9 місяців тому +3

    I stopped listening for a few minutes when somebody mentioned "non-zero square roots of zero." It took a moment for the watchdog timer to kick in and reboot my brain. I dare not ponder that again, because I have things to do today.

    • @TerribleFire
      @TerribleFire 9 місяців тому +1

      How do you think i can get through the day 🤣

  • @runeingebretsen8378
    @runeingebretsen8378 8 місяців тому

    Would love it if anybody would make an amiga on a PCI-e card with a 080/PPC cpu for pc computers,and also make or convert a os that is allready made for pc to work with it.

    • @TerribleFire
      @TerribleFire 5 місяців тому

      I think the issue there is just that if you want retro you probably want the original hardware. After that emulation is just orders of magnitude cheaper for the same outcome.

  • @connyahlsen9362
    @connyahlsen9362 9 місяців тому +1

    You should get Chucky to come talk in the cave ❤

    • @ChuckyGang
      @ChuckyGang 9 місяців тому +4

      I agree.. I should have been there to insult Stephen more,..

    • @TerribleFire
      @TerribleFire 9 місяців тому +1

      @@ChuckyGang😂

    • @connyahlsen9362
      @connyahlsen9362 9 місяців тому

      @@ChuckyGang so when do we get to see you? 😉

    • @ChuckyGang
      @ChuckyGang 9 місяців тому

      @@connyahlsen9362 you never know

  • @ksln
    @ksln 9 місяців тому

    \o/

  • @madigorfkgoogle9349
    @madigorfkgoogle9349 9 місяців тому +1

    I think he is pretty wrong about rarity of Atari Falcon when compared to TT. If I right remember something around 12k Falcons and around 6k C-Lab Falcons got sold, while only around 8k TT030 was sold. And to be honest I dont even se any need for accelerator for TT, why? It is running at 33MHz which is plenty, it has FPU stock, and also it is supporting Fast RAM (TT-RAM) and caching... and is faster then any stock Amiga except A4000. While Falcon would need more love as a slower animal, the CT-63 makes even this effort obsolete as well.
    I would suggest, make Amiga fanboys happy and do the A600 TF, so they can finally kinda "beat" their arch enemy Atari STe, ROFL.

    • @TerribleFire
      @TerribleFire 9 місяців тому

      I think its just you dont see Falcons for sale for less than 2-3000 euros now. TTs you can pick up for £500-£1000. The Falcons i've seen all have issues. But that could be anecdotal i guess.

    • @madigorfkgoogle9349
      @madigorfkgoogle9349 9 місяців тому

      @@TerribleFire then you dont look close enough, those 2-3000 are selling, but not getting sold. In fact Falcons auctions in last month or so ended up in 500-1060€, I know since I scored the one for 500€ and it is working fine, had the timing fix already and as a bonus a speed*resolution card...
      Meanwhile a TT030 in original case with keyboard HDD and ST RAM/TT RAM do not auction under 1500€, you may here and there score a "tower build" for around 1000 and sometimes plain mainboard for even less, but still TTs usually auction for more then Falcons.
      Those 2-3000 Falcons offers are still there, some as long as one year already...
      But the topic was not the selling price but the rarity, and there are more Falcons "flying" around then TTs.
      And BTW, thank you for your service.

    • @TerribleFire
      @TerribleFire 9 місяців тому

      @@madigorfkgoogle9349 Well my interest in Falcons is completely zero since i sold mine. I dont see many for sale and i am an admin on one of the major atari forums. A fellow admin talked me into looking at the TT which interests me far more than the Falcon. Not to say anything good or bad about the machine its just my personal interest level.
      The A600 TF will never happen. Its onto the TT and other 68000 systems.

    • @Igorsensei
      @Igorsensei 9 місяців тому

      @@TerribleFire Accelerator for Falon is the real rare beast. I gave up the though of finding one. Really hopeful you make one someday.🙂

    • @TerribleFire
      @TerribleFire 9 місяців тому

      @@Igorsenseiindeed. There are people making the CT6xx cards over on exxos

  • @Toby_Q
    @Toby_Q 9 місяців тому +3

    Let me get this straight... your first Amiga was a 600... yet that's the only system you haven't made a card for. Come on... you have to complete the circle now. You can't have your first Amiga not get a Stephen Leary created Terrible Fire accelerator!

    • @TerribleFire
      @TerribleFire 9 місяців тому +4

      Its purely because i dont want to deal with the user installation experience due to the lack of any accelerator slot on the 600. Life is too short for that.

  • @DragonKing987
    @DragonKing987 8 місяців тому

    The Amiga 1000 was the very first line of computers that Commodore had ever released, how could guy own an Amiga 400, which never existed.

    • @DragonKing987
      @DragonKing987 8 місяців тому

      I've owned an Amiga 1000, an Amiga 2000 and an Amiga 4000....

  • @rosscoyeah
    @rosscoyeah 9 місяців тому

    I’m blaming Neil for not having a spare, but the onus should really be with the speaker: “Where’s the bloody USB presenter?”

    • @TerribleFire
      @TerribleFire 2 місяці тому

      I think i turned it down for fear it would fly out of my hands when i was explaining things.

  • @KernArc
    @KernArc 9 місяців тому

    Constant nose sniffing killed it for me. I don't WANT to be so bothered by such things but here you are... 😞

    • @TerribleFire
      @TerribleFire 9 місяців тому +4

      I had a pretty bad cold... but the show must go on.

  • @Landrew0
    @Landrew0 8 місяців тому

    Exaggerated importance attributed to a fairly obscure subject.

    • @TerribleFire
      @TerribleFire 8 місяців тому

      Absolutely. As I have always said... I make old computers go slightly faster :)

  • @SM-sk1sm
    @SM-sk1sm 5 місяців тому

    Steve I have an offer for you..like so many before you. Lets see if you want to move forward.

  • @Lucretia9000
    @Lucretia9000 9 місяців тому +1

    Does he have any videos anywhere explaining the interfacing of the A1200 to a card at all? That would be interesting.

  • @Lucretia9000
    @Lucretia9000 9 місяців тому +1

    Excellent video, never knew he had a channel, but then I didn't know his name :D, I stall look him up. Shame even the cards which were supposed to be cheap are now stupidly expensive.