How to Make a Perfect Sign Everytime (CNC)
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- Опубліковано 6 лис 2019
- I've been trying to think of a way to do this without the use of a CNC if you have any ideas shoot your thoughts in the comments below.
A technique that I thought of from back in my college days, in printmaking we would use registration marks for lining our prints up. I figured taking the same concept using a CNC to register each letter with two or more pins would be very helpful in keeping things straight and in place.
This Sign is headed to Salon Noir in Reno Nevada, I am hoping it can hold up to that desert sun but time will tell, something not shown in the video in the many many layers of UV resistant spar varnish. Time will tell though, I told my client if it does not make it to call me up and I would take care of it.
If I was to make it again the cutouts would have been made from Cast PVC, a tight deadline did not make that possible for this particular sign.
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Thank you for sharing your experience that’s a really nice sign👍👍👍
Thank you for you're kind words!
Another cool video. Very nice work… on both signs! 😊
Thank you so much Tony!
i can see with how much passion u do this :)
Great job! 👍🏽
Thanks Jessie 😊
Brilliant!
Glad you liked it thanks for watching!
I've had to redo my share of projects, mostly because customers didn't like what they asked for after they saw it. Lol. Great piece of woodworking.
That one was particularly painful but I liked the final one more for sure.
That sounds less like redoing a project and more like getting another job to me! ESPECIALLY if it was made exactly as they asked for!
Beautiful
Thank you!
I have made at least 20 similar signs and this never even occurred to me. The best idea I've had was to vcarve a fault shiplap into it and use those lines to lone it up. But this is a way better idea! I'm going to give it a shot.
Thanks for saying that 7 thought I had come up with a unique technique and it's really great to hear someone thinks it is useful.
@@ChadsCustomCreations so I just tried it on a door hanging round. With a ton of individual letter. And it worked amazingly! I would never have been able to line up and space that many letters by eye. Thats why most of my name rounds use a font I can combine letters, lol. I found skewers at Walmart for like 1.50 for a pack. One skewer did a whole sign. And they are just a hair under 1/8th inch so a 1/8th bit cuts perfect holes for them.
That's so great to hear!
Well done
Thanks so much!
Hey chad! Love your work brother! I run a CNC myself and was curious what endmill you used for the lettering here? Also are you just running tabs to keep them from falling apart? Thanks for the help man!
www.amazon.com/dp/B07F3LGSS7?tag=onamzchadddow-20&linkCode=ssc+&creativeASIN=B07F3LGSS7&asc_item-id=amzn1.ideas.3B94CCNRODBDR&th=1 yes I left small tabs to keep the letters in place while cutting.
Great job on this! Could you provide an explanation of how to do the registration marks in the correct areas in Easel/V-Carve? Love the idea and just confused on how to implement.
I just rewatched this and I completely understand why it's hard to understand I should really make a dedicated video to explaining just the technique.
I’d love to see how you do this as well! Looks incredibly genius!!
I still think the white on back looked better dude
Haha thanks I can't tell you how heart broken I was when I the news. I think there was a specific color scheme they had to stick with in the area their salon was in. I try to do a better job at communicating with clients now. It's easy for ideas and concepts to get lost in translation.
Great idea. Thank you. Question was the letters made out of 1/4 MDF?
Thank you yes I believe it was 1/2" MDF which really it's not the best choice for outside signage but maybe it worked 😅
Great job on that sign. I use the same technique with dowels and it works great BUT if you glue them....you cant change your mind on the coloring that easily...lol i also use a 26 gauge pin nailer and that is also fast but alignment becomes a problem if you dont allow for registration marks. By the way...how do you go about pricing your work? Thanks and keep doing great videos
These are great tips and the 23 gauge nailer is awesome I always for get I have one but those tiny holes are so small paint almost fills them in.
As for pricing my work it has evolved over time. And I recently had a friend of mine's wife create me an excel spread sheets that allows me to input material cost, labor time, and it spits out a price that includes other things like an overhead cost percentage, taxes, and things like that. I in the passed always over look all those things and this now keeps me at my happy price as we would say on the Working Hands Podcast.
What size is it and how much you sell it for? How do you come about the price?
Hey mate, the holes you put for pins on the board on both sides, how did you get the 2nd side to be accurate after doing the first ? did you flip it over in exact same spot and run 2nd file ?
Yes I duplicated the file and mirrored everything to get the backsides of the letters. I really wish I had documented that process better my apologies for skimming over that.
Great Videa! I'm getting ready to Re-Make" a sign I did a while back as it didn't hold up to the North Georia weather.. how did this one fare?
You know I am not actually sure this was sent to Nevada if I remember correctly but I haven’t heard back so maybe that’s a good sign lol
@@ChadsCustomCreations Well it looked awesome and I'm going to try your technique on a couple signs next month. I've been trying to find MDO near me (north Georgia) but so far haven't found anyone that carries it.. Baltic Birch (with a LOT of coats of UV protective Marine Varnish) seems like the next logical choice.
Hi Chad, for this sign what did you use as a protective layer from the rain and sun? Also curious what's the best sealer to you use for stained woods😊
I used spray spar varnish wish I could say how it’s holding up now but no idea. Maybe hearing nothing is a good thing right?
Thank you, I'm checking on the beast seal to use for oil-based stains for outdoor signs
I like that process man. Seems pretty fool proof. What material do you use for your crate?
Thanks it came out of always struggling lining everything up especially on round signs. Sorry crate is that a typo? Letters are MDF which I don't recommend for outside use at all but maybe everything I did will work. Backer is just Whitewood or pine.
Ohhh the shipping crate, I made that one out of MDF for the sides, and just cheap plywood. Normally just grab whatever I have available.
@@ChadsCustomCreations yeah, I've looked for cheap methods of protecting items I ship. Nice idea man.
@@philliprowland2161 I order a bunch of 4x24x24 boxes from quil.com normally you can get a big coupon to help get the price per box to about $2.50 anything larger than what I can do with those gets custom crates. Which I was not sure if they would take it the first time I brought one to USPS and FedEx but they always take it, and I've notice they won't toss the ones made out of wood.
@@ChadsCustomCreations yeah I sent a military plaque that was 18” around x 1.25” thick to a buddy of mine in Oklahoma, from Oregon by UPS, arrived in 18 peaces! I thought that was packed and marked well enough to be handled properly but guess not. I realize they have to move a lot stuff fast but would they want THEIR stuff being tossed around carelessly? Anyway great work enjoyed you video neat technique!👍
A year later...do you still make signs like this!
I think this is really ingenious way to make this and avoids having to align everything solely on sight. It’s all done in the cut.
Thank you Edgar, I do use the same technique, though instead of using MDF for outdoor signs I have found a source for MDO and Acrylic. I have not heard of any issues with this sign but using the MDF was definitely a gamble.
I have questions.
Was this a sign for outside?
Are those MDF letters? I've always avoided MDF lettering for outside stuff just because it loves to swell up. I use MDO or PVC instead.
Have you had issues with MDF doing that outside?
It looks like you painted the back side of the letters as well. Have you had issues with lettering delaminating since the glue is bonding to the paint instead of to the material itself?
Looks great though and I like the idea of the dowels. Definitely stealing that!
I was really nervous about the mdf also, I drenched them in shellac countless times before painting them with what seemed like 20 coats of paint. I am hoping those layers have held up to the AIRIZONA weather which already had me nervous. I have not heard any bad news since it has been installed ill have to check how long ago that was. Knock on wood.
I have recently found a supplier for MDO and have switched to that.
So just checked and it was only about 11 months ago soooo I'd say its still a little premature still...
@@ChadsCustomCreations Woot! I think it's got a better chance being in Arizona anyhow since it's drier there so that may just be what makes or breaks it haha.
@@ChadsCustomCreations is that mdo supplier online or a local guy?
@@jefferynichols2549 hey Jeffery I have been able to get MDO delivered in 4x8 sheets from a company called Grimco you can make an account online and see if you are in their delivery area.
Hi bro. Just use an inlay function in your cad. That's enough.
You’re right that’s a decent option but will be limited by the diameter of your CNC bit.
do you remember what stain you used on the base of your sign?
I believe it was dark walnut by minwax
How thick was that board? What bit did you use to cut it? I’ve not found any good bit to cut 1+ wood.
It was 1-1/2 thick I did have a hard time finding one also I believe I found it on Amazon I'll take a look around. Everything is in mm on there so it gets confusing.
So these are 1.77" length I believe this is what I used but had to have only about .25" in the router.
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@@ChadsCustomCreations Awesome, thank you very much, I really appreciate it !
@@ChadsCustomCreations Finally got around to checking and they are only 22 mm which is .86 of an inch :(
@@SMS14411 keep looking I see those are unavailable now but keep in mind with most you can cut deeper than the cutting edge length. You can keep going in down because the bit has already cleared a path for the smooth shank to travel through. Hope that makes sense.
how do you add the registration holes in the letters and the backer?
With easel software I manually added 2 drill points on each letter once I had everything correct you can duplicate the whole page and that's where I made different runs without having to move any of the registrations holes. Mirroring the letters so the holes would be drilled into the back sides.
@@ChadsCustomCreations Thanks!! took like 30 seconds to do after you explained it. I was looking for some kind of hole registration tool or something lol.
@@adamlayton9052 glad you got it honestly I need to remake this video to make it more clear.
Great Video. Do you happen to remember the name of the font?
I tried looking back into my records to find the name but had no luck. Sorry mate.
How much is the estimated cost for such a design? I would like to know how to contact you for an inquiry.
I can't remember off the top of my head but you can find a listing for that style at chadscustomcreations.com I would be glad to help you out.
What bit did you use to cut the letters?
I believe it was an 1/8th inch straight cutting bit.
What is the model of the CNC machine that you used?
I am using the xcarve CNC
How much did you charge?
$425
Drip everything
Yes!
The boo boo 1 was far nicer, thought that the client wanted was to dark, but customer always right 🤷♂️
Haha thanks for sympathizing with me though I believe the area of stores that they are in maybe restricted to a colorscheme that probably fits better with option 2.
Since this I have been better about using ink scape to show full color renderings as to make sure communication with customers is more spot on.
I thought everyone did this
Well dang I thought I had an original idea, I don’t do it much anymore now that I’ve armed my shop with lasers registrations come pretty easily.