Having experienced what it was like to spend sleepless nights writing and editing work and still be told, "You didn't do anything? Did you even do your job?" really hurts, so I can definitely empathize with the scriptwriter. It's true that disputes can still arise even if you do your best, especially when that's your passion. This episode relates to my on so many levels.
I personally think Fatale which is this season's op, is better than Idol if you include the visuals. A *LOT* of hints and cues are given during the entire op and those who know how the story goes can easily guess how many episodes they're going to adapt just by watching it.
@@godofthecows1239 Yeah but still. The first time you encounter Idol is AFTER you see Ai's conclusion. They could've shoved in a bit more details(or easter eggs) in OP1. I don't think Idol is worse song than Fatale whatsoever. However I view Fatale better in terms of it being OP along with the visuals. Fatale rewards a keen eye for observing the entire song it is a big hint for what's to come. So without the visuals and if we're viewing it as a song rather than it being an Opening for an anime, Idol is better. But in my opinion, in terms of both of them being OP(and I repeat, if we include the visuals), I think Fatale is better.
It's sad that we know both sides are innocent but misunderstanding after misunderstanding made the situation be this way. I hope they manage to reach an common ground since it would be very bad if one of the sides ends up being seen as "the bad/unreasonable one"
I don't know why, but what stands out the most and hits kinda hard in the OP for me is at 43:33. Ai's ghost is dancing while Aqua and everyone else are cheering, but when she disappears, only he stops and instead solemnly puts one arm up. Like, maybe a visual metaphor for him taking the burden of avenging her?
Big 3 is Naruto, One Piece, Bleach and refers only to those specific shows that were dominating battle shounen sphere back in 2000s and early 2010s. People will try to look for "new gen big 3" as if it was written in the stars that 3 shows at a given time have to dominate and once a slot is vacant someone will fill it, but it doesn't work like that.
1:54:53 from what Trash Taste guys say, doing anything in bank is a nightmare, and they have to set aside half a day to do something in a bank that would be done in 5 minutes over phone in the west.
For the crows, let's remember the two main religions in Japan are buddhism and shinto. Both have crows as symbols of wisedom, hidden knowledge, protection and guidance. In buddhism is also related with Death, mainly the souls of the deads, guiding them to the next step or returning to Earth in order to pay for wrong doings in the reincartation cycle. In shinto, crows also goes to the divinity guidance, one important entity on shinto mythology is Yatagarasu, the three legged crow, which is a messenger divinity famous of "guiding an Emperor to his fate". Now they also relate them with the love of family and its protection, but in some myths, it can also means bad omen in specific cases, like seeing a crow cry/tears, that means a bad omen. Now, for the theory, why the white hair girl, surrounded by "crow feathers", showing before Aqua/Gorou amalgamation and then there's THREE hands? Why? Remember Yatagarasu, the THREE legged crow? Is she some kind of omen to guide Ruby and Aqua to their fates? And if so, is that "fate" a good one or one full of suffering, cuz she is clapping like being entertained
Having watched a lot of reactions to this episode, it's a little disheartening that no one seems to entertain the notion that the mangaka might... be wrong? At least partially. That the communication problems aren't just middle men getting in her way, but also her inability to articulate her anger into actual feedback. Or that what she wants might not work at all on stage. I assume it'll come back to that somewhat, because a manga author writing a story where a manga author is right about everything would be pretty bad writing.
@@gbeaudette I agree that while she needed to be upset for it to get through that something is wrong her attacking the scriptwriter like that was overkill when she doesn't know the system involved and is assuming he's completely at fault. She doesn't know anything about theatre so I totally believe that her decision to just yeet the scriptwriter out is gonna come back to bite her. Just as how she doesn't want her passion to be undermined she shouldn't undermine others as well was my critique of her by the end of the episode. Even if she needs to vent her frustrations she needs to learn to reset and then communicate and ask questions so you're not wrong. Alot of people are split on oh the mangaka is right or oh poor GOA but there was failure on all sides and none of this was handled right. To be honest while both sides were failed by this system the more I rewatch the episode is the more I want justice for GOA because I couldn't imagine how mentally crushed he is for failing at something he not only poured his heart into but for one of his favorite manga works
I think the issue is that the mangaka is both right and wrong. In terms of her perspective and what she's arguing about ("the characters are being ruined", "how come I tell you one thing and you interpret it completely wrong?", etc.), she's right. Based on her personality and potential autism-ness, I get the impression she is straightforward to a fault and wouldn't think to consider the notion that 1) her to-the-point communication is rude, or 2) that people would "edit" her message as it traveled down the telephone. Going entirely by the information she had available to her, the writer had supposedly received her input, yet still ignored her wishes over and over and over, therefore he's either malicious or a poor choice as a writer. Either way, kicking him out is the "clear solution". Where she fails (and where I can again see autistic traits, as this kind of thing would come more naturally/obviously to a neurotypical person) is not considering other perspectives. Not just the matter of trying to change her words to be less hurtful, but also just the notion of "maybe the message got lost in communication" or "maybe the play has time constraints to consider" or "maybe the people involved are competent and there's some other issue going on". To her, she's under the impression that, as a creator, she's conveying a message to a fellow creator, giving him chance after chance to remedy the problems, yet he keeps making a mess of it. She definitely has a way to go in order to learn that the world outside of her work as a creator is not as straightforward and hyperfocused as she is, and the editor has a way to go in order to to better communicate this to her so that she can understand and improve herself rather than just him just pacifying her and continually trying to fix any issues she causes without her knowing.
That ED is really dark man, and it highlights how just because she may act chipper and positive does not mean Ruby is okay mentally at all. She may not have watched Ai die like Aqua did but she was still _there,_ plus she had a whole past life of living in trauma where Ai was also a savior figure. I think people are too quick to dismiss that about Ruby. Aqua may be the most obvious at this point in time, but everyone is trying to cover up their need for therapy in this show…
I feel like it was a fake smile and not an evil one. Like she’s smiling and trying not to frown. I definitely can agree with the fact that there is something off with that smile though.
37:00 fun fact if we go by the manga withe hair girl should have appeared in S1at least two times but they dodged her appearances. the fandom had many theories over her and since we to did not have a actual name for her she was commonly called "crow girl" or "yatagarasu"(japonese crow deity)
As a manga reader, I know EXACTLY what event the ED refers to, the crows 🐦⬛, the door 🚪, Ruby’s despair, everything. First time I saw it, I thought, “Oh, they’re gonna get to THAT this season.” You will find out.
I feel for GOA's stuck in a bad place, but the chain of communication let him down. Everyone between Abiko and GOA failed them both. Was Abiko not actionable in her critiques? Maybe, we don't know what her points actually were. She was certainly angry, and anger leads to poor communication. Now add all the CMA filters between Abiko and GOA? No wonder the Magnaka was pissssssed and felt ignored. Abiko did go overboard in her attack. But I totally get where she was coming from. Oh for funnies: noticed the Nokotan comments during Kana's coping scene. Both Kana and Nokotan are voiced by the great Megumi Han!
As a doctor, he swore an oath to do no harm. Do you think aqua on his revenge journey is able to maintain that oath? Does he even think it should still apply?
'Do no harm' is subjective, and in his current life, he is an 'aspiring actor' and not a doctor. And even if he did decide to pursue the medical profession in this life, when it comes to the culprit of Ai's circumstances, suffering and death... _that person will be the only exception._ Though, it can also be executed indirectly. In the same way that mere words on the internet can negatively affect someone, but alas, that subject is way beyond my ESG score. */S*
the reason the one piece live action worked out so well when so many anime live actions failed so hard was because THE PEOPLE MAKEING THE SHOW HAD A DIRECT LINE TO ODA
I do really like the new op and ed. But ngl, I do think the first ones just hit different. Idol sent me to a whole different universe ngl. That shit was transformative. And although I do like the new ed song a bit more, the way that Mephisto hit at the end of every episode, idk if it can be beaten in that aspect.
I'm just gonna say: I've had a bad experience with "mandated reporting," it directly led to one of my biggest childhood traumas, I'm reasonably sure that all it did was instill in me a sense that I should _never ever speak up about anything that troubles me,_ and it took _actually years_ for me to unlearn this lesson.
17:55 Wait what? You can put fictional character on a pedestal? I was thinking that you can only do it to real people. Well, everyday you learn something new...
Ed I think I am pretty similar to the mangaka, good at job but not so good at social skills. I did used to confront people like her. What does it mean?
"This song has a big case of being a banger while the lyrics are tragic as fuck" You can replace tragic with just about any other adjective, and you basically have described the entire JP music industry. I dunno what them boys smoking over there, but they're obsessed with that kind of style where the music at the lysics are almost completely at odds.😂
you now some times is good that ED doesn't read the manga, he wold be spoiling people up to date. i mean i an up to date with the manga and still feels like getting spoilers sometimes
If video is less immersive then the video itself is at fault if not how your viewing it. Plays have to much physical distance for me to properly be immersed... after all I cannot be next to the stage. But a Movie theature... with its volume and timber is just heard and resonated throughout you. I saw the Spirited away 2.5HD play and it was far greater than I expected but by no means was I truly drawn in... physical distance made me have to try to hear things and see things (partially blind in each eye means larger blind spots). To much is happening for me to keep up unless I already know the script and can fill in the blanks like Spirited Away. Movie was better but the play was still an 8 outta 10 when I was expecting a 4. Newest episode of No Ko is where I finally realized what I saw was 2.5HD Play tho. My friend is lost in the stage sauce and can somehow better immerse in that stuff. To me I can define the edges to easily to not have a barrier in mind the whole time. TV Screen, or whatever; if its not a held book I can to easily note the edges and have the reality barrier in place. Specifically an actual book and not through a screen where I must pinch or pull screens or use a mouse or buttons. Reading books is the only natural way for me to be immersed. Its why I can walk and read safely. Set my Auto pilot to where I am going and step out of the world to cross streets and dive back in. Its why I have limited my book reading and not other stuff. It does rob me of noticing things.
I was that cringey teen stage actor. I was in a stage production in high school, not because I liked acting. I just wanted to avoid another year at home-ec class with a bad teacher, the type that blames you when her tools don't work, and she is testing you more than teaching you. What a B. Like so what if a kid doesn't know how to use a microwave, teach them!
i feel like kana doesnt care about idol culture and 100% would date aqua anyway, i mean maybe just keep it secret it wouldnt really be hard they are around each other all the time anyway and aqua kinda grew up keeping secrets. or kana would just be like fuck yall dote after ruby and mem i dont care
JJK, Chainsaw Man and Hell's Paradise was called the "Dark Trio" for a while. AFAIK that was pretty forced, but I don't follow manga closely enough to really know.
Ruby's name in her previous life was Serina, not Sarina? Hahahaha, how wrong you are! Serina is not an English name, it's "さ(Sa) り(Ri) な(Na)", a 3 syllable Japanese name.
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Having experienced what it was like to spend sleepless nights writing and editing work and still be told, "You didn't do anything? Did you even do your job?" really hurts, so I can definitely empathize with the scriptwriter. It's true that disputes can still arise even if you do your best, especially when that's your passion. This episode relates to my on so many levels.
I personally think Fatale which is this season's op, is better than Idol if you include the visuals. A *LOT* of hints and cues are given during the entire op and those who know how the story goes can easily guess how many episodes they're going to adapt just by watching it.
The ending is very telling too! I don't read the manga, but I've been spoiled on a few things. I definitely see what it tells.
prob cuz it's a more regular anime op. S1 doesn't want to spoil the viewers because its a new series.
@@godofthecows1239 Yeah but still. The first time you encounter Idol is AFTER you see Ai's conclusion. They could've shoved in a bit more details(or easter eggs) in OP1. I don't think Idol is worse song than Fatale whatsoever. However I view Fatale better in terms of it being OP along with the visuals. Fatale rewards a keen eye for observing the entire song it is a big hint for what's to come. So without the visuals and if we're viewing it as a song rather than it being an Opening for an anime, Idol is better. But in my opinion, in terms of both of them being OP(and I repeat, if we include the visuals), I think Fatale is better.
@@loblo5542 but isnt things that happen in the season
@@godofthecows1239 Hm? Can you elaborate further?
It's sad that we know both sides are innocent but misunderstanding after misunderstanding made the situation be this way.
I hope they manage to reach an common ground since it would be very bad if one of the sides ends up being seen as "the bad/unreasonable one"
I don't know why, but what stands out the most and hits kinda hard in the OP for me is at 43:33. Ai's ghost is dancing while Aqua and everyone else are cheering, but when she disappears, only he stops and instead solemnly puts one arm up. Like, maybe a visual metaphor for him taking the burden of avenging her?
1:47:00 Just look at that dude there, sitting, no thoughts, just deer.
Big 3 is Naruto, One Piece, Bleach and refers only to those specific shows that were dominating battle shounen sphere back in 2000s and early 2010s. People will try to look for "new gen big 3" as if it was written in the stars that 3 shows at a given time have to dominate and once a slot is vacant someone will fill it, but it doesn't work like that.
and dragonabll is grandpa, and Journey to the west is their ancient fore fathers
Now this is the opening discussion I expected from you 🗿
1:54:53 from what Trash Taste guys say, doing anything in bank is a nightmare, and they have to set aside half a day to do something in a bank that would be done in 5 minutes over phone in the west.
christ how do i keep missing the live streams for this
For the crows, let's remember the two main religions in Japan are buddhism and shinto. Both have crows as symbols of wisedom, hidden knowledge, protection and guidance. In buddhism is also related with Death, mainly the souls of the deads, guiding them to the next step or returning to Earth in order to pay for wrong doings in the reincartation cycle. In shinto, crows also goes to the divinity guidance, one important entity on shinto mythology is Yatagarasu, the three legged crow, which is a messenger divinity famous of "guiding an Emperor to his fate". Now they also relate them with the love of family and its protection, but in some myths, it can also means bad omen in specific cases, like seeing a crow cry/tears, that means a bad omen.
Now, for the theory, why the white hair girl, surrounded by "crow feathers", showing before Aqua/Gorou amalgamation and then there's THREE hands? Why? Remember Yatagarasu, the THREE legged crow? Is she some kind of omen to guide Ruby and Aqua to their fates? And if so, is that "fate" a good one or one full of suffering, cuz she is clapping like being entertained
Having watched a lot of reactions to this episode, it's a little disheartening that no one seems to entertain the notion that the mangaka might... be wrong? At least partially. That the communication problems aren't just middle men getting in her way, but also her inability to articulate her anger into actual feedback. Or that what she wants might not work at all on stage.
I assume it'll come back to that somewhat, because a manga author writing a story where a manga author is right about everything would be pretty bad writing.
@@gbeaudette I agree that while she needed to be upset for it to get through that something is wrong her attacking the scriptwriter like that was overkill when she doesn't know the system involved and is assuming he's completely at fault. She doesn't know anything about theatre so I totally believe that her decision to just yeet the scriptwriter out is gonna come back to bite her. Just as how she doesn't want her passion to be undermined she shouldn't undermine others as well was my critique of her by the end of the episode. Even if she needs to vent her frustrations she needs to learn to reset and then communicate and ask questions so you're not wrong. Alot of people are split on oh the mangaka is right or oh poor GOA but there was failure on all sides and none of this was handled right. To be honest while both sides were failed by this system the more I rewatch the episode is the more I want justice for GOA because I couldn't imagine how mentally crushed he is for failing at something he not only poured his heart into but for one of his favorite manga works
I think the issue is that the mangaka is both right and wrong. In terms of her perspective and what she's arguing about ("the characters are being ruined", "how come I tell you one thing and you interpret it completely wrong?", etc.), she's right. Based on her personality and potential autism-ness, I get the impression she is straightforward to a fault and wouldn't think to consider the notion that 1) her to-the-point communication is rude, or 2) that people would "edit" her message as it traveled down the telephone. Going entirely by the information she had available to her, the writer had supposedly received her input, yet still ignored her wishes over and over and over, therefore he's either malicious or a poor choice as a writer. Either way, kicking him out is the "clear solution".
Where she fails (and where I can again see autistic traits, as this kind of thing would come more naturally/obviously to a neurotypical person) is not considering other perspectives. Not just the matter of trying to change her words to be less hurtful, but also just the notion of "maybe the message got lost in communication" or "maybe the play has time constraints to consider" or "maybe the people involved are competent and there's some other issue going on". To her, she's under the impression that, as a creator, she's conveying a message to a fellow creator, giving him chance after chance to remedy the problems, yet he keeps making a mess of it.
She definitely has a way to go in order to learn that the world outside of her work as a creator is not as straightforward and hyperfocused as she is, and the editor has a way to go in order to to better communicate this to her so that she can understand and improve herself rather than just him just pacifying her and continually trying to fix any issues she causes without her knowing.
That ED is really dark man, and it highlights how just because she may act chipper and positive does not mean Ruby is okay mentally at all. She may not have watched Ai die like Aqua did but she was still _there,_ plus she had a whole past life of living in trauma where Ai was also a savior figure. I think people are too quick to dismiss that about Ruby. Aqua may be the most obvious at this point in time, but everyone is trying to cover up their need for therapy in this show…
HELL YEAH
OPENING LYRICS ANALYSIS LETS GOOOO
Am I the only one who notices Ruby’s… “evil smile” near the end of the OP? Not the one in the close-up, but the one right before it.
Maybe, but the eyebrows, though. A fake smile wouldn’t look so cruel.
I feel like it was a fake smile and not an evil one. Like she’s smiling and trying not to frown. I definitely can agree with the fact that there is something off with that smile though.
37:00 fun fact if we go by the manga withe hair girl should have appeared in S1at least two times but they dodged her appearances. the fandom had many theories over her and since we to did not have a actual name for her she was commonly called "crow girl" or "yatagarasu"(japonese crow deity)
"What kind of trauma has the dad gone through"
He's in showbiz, so there ya go.😂
"I have a feeling I need to go rewatch season 1 now."
She got 'im, boys😈😂
As a manga reader, I know EXACTLY what event the ED refers to, the crows 🐦⬛, the door 🚪, Ruby’s despair, everything.
First time I saw it, I thought, “Oh, they’re gonna get to THAT this season.”
You will find out.
I feel for GOA's stuck in a bad place, but the chain of communication let him down. Everyone between Abiko and GOA failed them both. Was Abiko not actionable in her critiques? Maybe, we don't know what her points actually were. She was certainly angry, and anger leads to poor communication.
Now add all the CMA filters between Abiko and GOA? No wonder the Magnaka was pissssssed and felt ignored.
Abiko did go overboard in her attack. But I totally get where she was coming from.
Oh for funnies: noticed the Nokotan comments during Kana's coping scene. Both Kana and Nokotan are voiced by the great Megumi Han!
Eds talk on *redacted* i was just straight screaming
Ed: "The fuckin' feathers"
(Small Pause)
Ed: **Immediately locks in**
Aaand, there it is.😂
1h22min of OP analysis, counting the lyrics part. At this rate we're going to beat last year's record halfway through the season 😁
Wow, nearly 3h long this week!
Thanks for the video, I'm going to take my time watching
I'm curious how much the background, of the construction equipment/etc, plays a role in terms of themes/etc.
Idol was too perfect, it's an impossible task to do better than that song. But I do appreciate the new OP too.
3:18 He’s doing it again!
As a doctor, he swore an oath to do no harm. Do you think aqua on his revenge journey is able to maintain that oath? Does he even think it should still apply?
'Do no harm' is subjective, and in his current life, he is an 'aspiring actor' and not a doctor.
And even if he did decide to pursue the medical profession in this life, when it comes to the culprit of Ai's circumstances, suffering and death... _that person will be the only exception._ Though, it can also be executed indirectly.
In the same way that mere words on the internet can negatively affect someone, but alas, that subject is way beyond my ESG score. */S*
1:49:12 Look at Utena defending her magical gir- wait, wrong anime.
the reason the one piece live action worked out so well when so many anime live actions failed so hard was because THE PEOPLE MAKEING THE SHOW HAD A DIRECT LINE TO ODA
I do really like the new op and ed. But ngl, I do think the first ones just hit different. Idol sent me to a whole different universe ngl. That shit was transformative. And although I do like the new ed song a bit more, the way that Mephisto hit at the end of every episode, idk if it can be beaten in that aspect.
I'm just gonna say: I've had a bad experience with "mandated reporting," it directly led to one of my biggest childhood traumas, I'm reasonably sure that all it did was instill in me a sense that I should _never ever speak up about anything that troubles me,_ and it took _actually years_ for me to unlearn this lesson.
big 3 is specifically refering to Naruto, Bleach, One Piece.
Since they changed the landscape of fandom so much (as I understand it).
If chat goes quiet, it's cus it involves spoilers 😂
6:28 OMG! 😱
17:55
Wait what? You can put fictional character on a pedestal? I was thinking that you can only do it to real people. Well, everyday you learn something new...
52:55 AIN'T NO WAY! XDDD
Ed cooking THAT hard
What does chat mean with "RN" bug three is bug three, its a term used for Naruto Bleach and One Piece, Theres not much debate
Hell yeah brother also rest in peace white board kun
41:39 I think we saw glasses break (probably belonging to the doctor) in the S1 op
Ed I think I am pretty similar to the mangaka, good at job but not so good at social skills. I did used to confront people like her. What does it mean?
52:56 my favorite part lmao
1h OP analysis? Hell yeah!!!
Hi, will VOD be back on twitch? I like to hear songs, which YT force editors to mute audio(
Could I just say Kana ALSO has a parataxic distortion?
Ed could you consider adding Ryuzoku Blazing Dawn to your list? It has aspects that might be of interest to you.
"This song has a big case of being a banger while the lyrics are tragic as fuck"
You can replace tragic with just about any other adjective, and you basically have described the entire JP music industry.
I dunno what them boys smoking over there, but they're obsessed with that kind of style where the music at the lysics are almost completely at odds.😂
5:52 Sarina had a crush on Goro.
you now some times is good that ED doesn't read the manga, he wold be spoiling people up to date. i mean i an up to date with the manga and still feels like getting spoilers sometimes
Hey Ed the backgrounds up to 25(your) minutes are real places. what you make of that?
If video is less immersive then the video itself is at fault if not how your viewing it.
Plays have to much physical distance for me to properly be immersed... after all I cannot be next to the stage.
But a Movie theature... with its volume and timber is just heard and resonated throughout you.
I saw the Spirited away 2.5HD play and it was far greater than I expected but by no means was I truly drawn in... physical distance made me have to try to hear things and see things (partially blind in each eye means larger blind spots). To much is happening for me to keep up unless I already know the script and can fill in the blanks like Spirited Away.
Movie was better but the play was still an 8 outta 10 when I was expecting a 4.
Newest episode of No Ko is where I finally realized what I saw was 2.5HD Play tho.
My friend is lost in the stage sauce and can somehow better immerse in that stuff. To me I can define the edges to easily to not have a barrier in mind the whole time. TV Screen, or whatever; if its not a held book I can to easily note the edges and have the reality barrier in place.
Specifically an actual book and not through a screen where I must pinch or pull screens or use a mouse or buttons.
Reading books is the only natural way for me to be immersed. Its why I can walk and read safely. Set my Auto pilot to where I am going and step out of the world to cross streets and dive back in.
Its why I have limited my book reading and not other stuff. It does rob me of noticing things.
1:36:58
*HEART. STEEL!*
*We. KILL!*
*IRON. WILL!*
*UNTO DAWN!*
*[ Bot Drop Detected ]*
The Big Three will always be One Piece, Naruto, and Bleach. Though Gintama was a contender for #4
I was that cringey teen stage actor. I was in a stage production in high school, not because I liked acting. I just wanted to avoid another year at home-ec class with a bad teacher, the type that blames you when her tools don't work, and she is testing you more than teaching you. What a B.
Like so what if a kid doesn't know how to use a microwave, teach them!
WOOOOOOOOOOOO
Keep cooking!
33:47 You will.
32:20 bro... it's a knife... the knife that killed ai when he was a kid, not that deep bruh
i feel like kana doesnt care about idol culture and 100% would date aqua anyway, i mean maybe just keep it secret it wouldnt really be hard they are around each other all the time anyway and aqua kinda grew up keeping secrets. or kana would just be like fuck yall dote after ruby and mem i dont care
JJK, Chainsaw Man and Hell's Paradise was called the "Dark Trio" for a while. AFAIK that was pretty forced, but I don't follow manga closely enough to really know.
1:33:59 Are you SURE you haven’t read the manga?
Ruby's name in her previous life was Serina, not Sarina?
Hahahaha, how wrong you are!
Serina is not an English name, it's "さ(Sa) り(Ri) な(Na)", a 3 syllable Japanese name.