Beethoven is the most melodic composer that I know. His pieces are filled to the brim with melody after melody. I find the 1st movement of the 5th symphony to be the exception....not the rule.
@@coryfields2555 yea his music is mostly bristling with memorable melodies, but his music isn't overly sentimental like Tchaikovsky, Chopin and other composers.
It reminded me of "Il mio tesoro" from Don Giovanni. It is interesting how although Beethoven keeps driving forward the development of music towards new sounds and concepts, he also keeps going back to the past and never abandons the world of Haydn and Mozart completely.
@@sethjeppson5680 same I'm learning it right now, 'cause I got a new teacher, but before I've been playing for 6 years, so idk, if I'm like really bad🙁
Beethoven was such a Great Composer he his lessor known works are often wonderful Beethoven' has been a Great Gift to the World for over 200 years now--PJ Grand
Superbly finished piece by a great master. I learned this as a teen ager and still hold this piece in deep affection. As for comparing with Mozart, it's like comparing apples and oranges. We each have a right to our preferences, who speaks to us more directly or more readily. It is emphatically not about any objective quality, and anyone who claims that one of these composers is greater than the other simply takes what he/she reads in books or hears from others really understands nothing. One has to experience the music and decide for oneself. I myself, from the way I personally perceive the music, will have Beethoven over Mozart any time, and yet there are still works of Mozart that affect me to my very being, but they might not be the same works that affect others.
Well said. Fortunately I haven’t read any comments so far about those who compare the two masters. Yet, I’m very aware those fools exist. There is just no way to compare two different fruits brought forth from the spring of life, each has something different to offer.
Great piece. I find it so fascinating that Ricther is the most interesting pianist to me, and yet he interprets the piece exactly as the composer wrote it. Pianists should learn from him.
@Wasnovak wow i had forgotten i had left this comment hahaha, yes i am much better at piano now, i'm in the process of finishing my music degree and i have students of my own now :)
@@vaaaaaaliiii do not fret, three years of piano is still pretty early on!! Keep working hard and you'll get it, friend :) Also i remember a talk i had with a group of pianists, and we all agreed that there's no such thing as an "easy" piece. playing any piece--however simple, even if its designed for early stages of piano learning--properly and well, is extremely hard.
@@TheMotherOfBambi I will! Thank you for your kind words :) And I mistook your simple as easy, you are correct, there is no such thing as an easy piece. If it's not the notes it might be the phrasing that's hard to play well/nice or the articulation or ... There's only one solution, keep practicing!
Is it just me or this piece sounds so similar to Mozart's Rondo K.485? A lot of passages here have the same pattern, also the structure and a lot of other things as well...
Beethoven's opus 51 was written in 1797, about the same time as his Opus 10 sonatas. The sonatas are more progressive in style, particularly 10/3. However, this rondo seems quite Classical in every way possible.
Um u don't need eyes to hear music. Besides, how could she navigate on UA-cam if she had a mask or closed her eyes? Perhaps it is a bug not allowing her to see the video.
Well, I tend to classify music genres based not on the date they were written, but rather their characteristics. I find that this particular piece sounds like a classical piece; however, that is just my opinion. I'm not sure that the question I asked has a logical answer.
It’s an early work, composed in the mid to late 1790s. Don’t take Beethoven opus numbers too literally-sometimes they indicate publication date rather than date of composition.
I would say you are correct, although the other rondo, Op. 51, No. 2, is probably from the middle period, and Beethoven may have decided at that time to publish the earlier piece along with it.
I can assure you that Richter plays virtually in strict time (which makes me consider that his playing is somewhat boring at times, although technically admirable). The possible reason that you may think the performance is not in a steady tempo is that Beethoven uses a variety of how many notes he fits to the crotchet beat, and switches around from halves to quarters to thirds to sixths to eighths, and any other possibilities. Tap along with Richter and see how closely he is in tempo throughout.
The mark of a great pianist is that, although he plays very closely in time, he also bends the time ever so slightly so as to enhance the melodic line, but most listeners do not notice the subtleties: they only say that a performance was really excellent. To my mind Richter plays precisely but in a cold, (typically Russian?), matter-of-fact way.
There actually is a slight piu mosso when the second portion of the main theme comes in, at two points in this piece. One does get used to it on repeated hearings after a while. It is not strictly metronomic at all.
Many members of the public do not like pianists of the 19th century going into the first half of the 20th century: this is probably because their bending of time is so marked that they cannot follow the thread of the music. Such people should listen to a piece several times so that "One does get used to it on repeated hearings after a while", to quote your comment. I generally find that musicians of this earlier age are far more interesting because they play with so much more feeling and bring out the nuance of the music in very subtle ways.
I understand your frustration. However, Beethoven did write SOME very bad music, however little compared to other great composers. I challenge anyone to say that Mozart did the same. That's all in my humble opinion!
A: 0:00 - 0:38
B: 0:38 - 1:13
Retransitie: 1:13 - 1:34
A': 1:34 - 1:52
C: 1:52 - 2:40
Valse inzet: 2:50 - 3:27
A'': 3:27 - 3:57
A naar Coda: 3:57 - 4:43
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One of those Beethoven pieces where he starts with an actual melody rather than a micro motif he then develops into something spectacular.
Check out violin sonata n 5 by Beethoven ;)
It's fantastic. It's early Beethoven but all the characteristics of the composer's mature style can be found here. Just amazing!
@@schlafwandler1427 that's a good one
Beethoven is the most melodic composer that I know. His pieces are filled to the brim with melody after melody. I find the 1st movement of the 5th symphony to be the exception....not the rule.
@@coryfields2555 yea his music is mostly bristling with memorable melodies, but his music isn't overly sentimental like Tchaikovsky, Chopin and other composers.
It reminded me of "Il mio tesoro" from Don Giovanni. It is interesting how although Beethoven keeps driving forward the development of music towards new sounds and concepts, he also keeps going back to the past and never abandons the world of Haydn and Mozart completely.
I takes us back to simpler days when we were learning to play. Nice.
dang it in learning it now I guess I suck
@@sethjeppson5680 same I'm learning it right now, 'cause I got a new teacher, but before I've been playing for 6 years, so idk, if I'm like really bad🙁
@@theartgoose just finished it a few weeks ago
@@sethjeppson5680 congrats! My teacher gave me this to learn over the summer break, all by myself 😭+prelude II from Bach
@@theartgoose what spot are you at now? or did you finish it?
who has been watching this today in 2024
Me
me
Me, and currently working on this piece for a piano recital coming up‼️🎹🔥✨
@@reinahondome too
Me me
Beethoven was such a Great Composer he his lessor known works are often wonderful Beethoven' has been a Great Gift to the World for over 200 years now--PJ Grand
Superbly finished piece by a great master. I learned this as a teen ager and still hold this piece in deep affection.
As for comparing with Mozart, it's like comparing apples and oranges. We each have a right to our preferences, who speaks to us more directly or more readily.
It is emphatically not about any objective quality, and anyone who claims that
one of these composers is greater than the other simply takes what he/she
reads in books or hears from others really understands nothing. One has to experience the music and decide for oneself.
I myself, from the way I personally perceive the music, will have Beethoven
over Mozart any time, and yet there are still works of Mozart that affect me
to my very being, but they might not be the same works that affect others.
alger3041 Bach
I love this piece I am learning this with my piano teacher. I used to see other people play this and I really enjoyed it
Gaylord
Well said. Fortunately I haven’t read any comments so far about those who compare the two masters. Yet, I’m very aware those fools exist. There is just no way to compare two different fruits brought forth from the spring of life, each has something different to offer.
Zzzksjsnsnsnsn
@@shadowjuan2
Such a superb rendition..
Beautiful and well played.
Practicing this piece right now, all those variations of the theme, oh my god I feel I am so slow learning it
Great piece. I find it so fascinating that Ricther is the most interesting pianist to me, and yet he interprets the piece exactly as the composer wrote it. Pianists should learn from him.
BEETHOVEN WHAT A GENIUS
What a beautiful piano sound, thanks mr.Richter
great song
this is beautiful!! my piano learning has been weird and im learning this now despite it being kind of simple but its lovely i love it
@Wasnovak wow i had forgotten i had left this comment hahaha, yes i am much better at piano now, i'm in the process of finishing my music degree and i have students of my own now :)
@@TheMotherOfBambicongratulations!! So inspiring, hopefully I’ll reach your stage someday ☺️
I've been playing for three years now and can say it is not easy lol, the rhythm and left+ right hand coordination fucks with my head sometimes
@@vaaaaaaliiii do not fret, three years of piano is still pretty early on!! Keep working hard and you'll get it, friend :)
Also i remember a talk i had with a group of pianists, and we all agreed that there's no such thing as an "easy" piece. playing any piece--however simple, even if its designed for early stages of piano learning--properly and well, is extremely hard.
@@TheMotherOfBambi I will! Thank you for your kind words :)
And I mistook your simple as easy, you are correct, there is no such thing as an easy piece. If it's not the notes it might be the phrasing that's hard to play well/nice or the articulation or ... There's only one solution, keep practicing!
best performance ever....
Questa sonata è molto mozartiana. Molto bella .
Un melodioso Rondó por el gran Sviatoslav Richter
The music piece give me the sense that the style incline to the Romantic period
Speechless !!!
marian444 With horror or adulation? Me? Indifference. Richter followed only the letter of the law, but without any personal input.
Muy interesante esta pieza de Beethoven. 🙌
Is it just me or this piece sounds so similar to Mozart's Rondo K.485? A lot of passages here have the same pattern, also the structure and a lot of other things as well...
Hai Nguyen nothing to see
What a coincidence your name is exactly the same as my friend’s
Beethoven's opus 51 was written in 1797, about the same time as his Opus 10 sonatas. The sonatas are more progressive in style, particularly 10/3. However, this rondo seems quite Classical in every way possible.
I enjoy much 00:26-00:30 it,s so beautiful emotion
this was in baby shakespeare (that's how i know this masterpiece)
SAME BRO
@@Blazedasonic same
🍎
I think you're completely right.
3:08 is my fav-it’s just such a cool little part
i'm playing it this year.. it's actually way too difficult :(
After eight years I hope you persevered!
@XxAquariusxX Only hours?
I hope now you can play it.
I love this
1:52 my favorite part of this piece
2:11 la donna i mobile
I was going to make the same comment. Musical coincidences are always fun.
@@ericeigler Maybe Verdi was so clever to use this little motif and developed an whole aria....
This piece Composed in 1797 ans Verdi... Born in 1813.
awesome piece! Finest music ever heard!
¡Excelente!
Richter- bloody legend
Целую руки и головку. Спасибо - это не та степень благодарности.
What fucks it up even more is that he was DEAF when he wrote some of his most amazing works! :-O
0:03 V6-IV6?
2:46 - 3:26
is it just me or does the passage at 2:12 sound very familiar
Nope me too dun dun dun dunnnn dun dun dun dunn dun dunnnn dun dun
4:52 - 4:58 My hands always get stuck into eachother, aaah.
My jury piece...learned only 3 pages and a system during the last 7 weeks. I am so screwed.
Nice!
02:11 la dona é mobile
Here's what I saw:
1. A yellow stuffed toy
2. A butterfly puzzle
3. A yellow stuffed toy (again)
4. A shape sorter
5. A yellow stuffed toy (again)
fail on the last page. he plays an octave to low in the second bar of that page!
I'm doing this piece as a grade exam. Don't feel pressure, where are you struggling on?
I have to analyze this for ap music theory. yay
Quel génie...
Maybe this could be the lost 3rd Movement of Beethoven’s WoO 51 sonata!
Sounds like the Schubert Symphony 2 movement 2 variations
Beethoven wrote this in 1797, Schubert Born in this year.
@@Cayres18 did I say thought it were lifted outright?
I feel if the tune of the piano is a little flat.
Same
+Ethan Gao I can't tell; it sounds fine to me
+Ethan Gao yeah, but just a little bit
Ly Hetfield Oh, maybe. I don't know... Maybe Beethoven didn't tune his piano.
Ok
wow. I really liked Kempff's version before. then I listened to this one a few times and now I prefer Richter's version.
l like this picese, still, l like beethovans piano 🎶
Why i cannot see the video???
Wince Lee Could be that your vision is impaired. Consult an opthalmist.
She is probably referring to: the inability to watch the video
i love it
2:07
1:21
@ChuChuTrainization not true.. ... he plays it correctly.
Why i cannot see it?!
Wince Lee Perhaps you have closed your eyes or are wearing a mask. Open eyes or take off mask.
Um u don't need eyes to hear music. Besides, how could she navigate on UA-cam if she had a mask or closed her eyes?
Perhaps it is a bug not allowing her to see the video.
Maybe she’s too Asian and doesn’t have eyes
당신은 한국인을 이제보셧습니다
I'm conflicted, should I play this or fantasia by Mozart?
The both
Is this Beethoven's pre-romantic music?
Well, I tend to classify music genres based not on the date they were written, but rather their characteristics. I find that this particular piece sounds like a classical piece; however, that is just my opinion. I'm not sure that the question I asked has a logical answer.
It’s an early work, composed in the mid to late 1790s. Don’t take Beethoven opus numbers too literally-sometimes they indicate publication date rather than date of composition.
I would say you are correct, although the other rondo, Op. 51, No. 2, is probably from the middle period, and Beethoven may have decided at that time to publish the earlier piece along with it.
They were both written in 1797, so pretty early
ManticTac no biati
Das spiele ich gerade auf klavier :)
2:11 Verdi
There is no love for this piece,
Sounds like Mozart a lot
Trans Aryan lol the opening sounds like Mozarts sixteenth sonata
sounds a lot like Hadyn, not Mozart :p
Sounds like Beethoven, maybe in the style of Haydn, but it's clearly Beethoven.
1:13 absolutly mozart lol
RRRRRONDOO SPAGHETTI MAFIA
I feel like the tempo is not steady at all. Is that how it is suppose to be played?
I can assure you that Richter plays virtually in strict time (which makes me consider that his playing is somewhat boring at times, although technically admirable). The possible reason that you may think the performance is not in a steady tempo is that Beethoven uses a variety of how many notes he fits to the crotchet beat, and switches around from halves to quarters to thirds to sixths to eighths, and any other possibilities. Tap along with Richter and see how closely he is in tempo throughout.
Glyn Banfield My own opinion is that most of the pianists who do not play in strict time do so because they cannot. This is why I prefer Richter.
The mark of a great pianist is that, although he plays very closely in time, he also bends the time ever so slightly so as to enhance the melodic line, but most listeners do not notice the subtleties: they only say that a performance was really excellent. To my mind Richter plays precisely but in a cold, (typically Russian?), matter-of-fact way.
There actually is a slight piu mosso when the second portion of the main theme comes in, at two points in this piece. One does get used to it on repeated hearings after a while. It is not strictly metronomic at all.
Many members of the public do not like pianists of the 19th century going into the first half of the 20th century: this is probably because their bending of time is so marked that they cannot follow the thread of the music. Such people should listen to a piece several times so that "One does get used to it on repeated hearings after a while", to quote your comment. I generally find that musicians of this earlier age are far more interesting because they play with so much more feeling and bring out the nuance of the music in very subtle ways.
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good joob !
love better the Willem Kempf but i have a old cd
I think you might a bit off-point in your reply as mpetaia isn't comparing Beethoven to mozart musically but only stating their working methods.
Is it just me or does this sound more like something Mozart would've written?
BoCo CoBo I afree
Its early Beethoven, he was 27 when he wrote this
גאָט איך בין אויף דער גרענעץ פון אַ בלאַדי דייַגעס באַפאַלן
My ears hurt (((
biginners pianists very well no for an adult , it's tiny without soul
U su
I can't beleive he slipped at 0:18
i.hate the background noise. uh
I understand your frustration. However, Beethoven did write SOME very bad music, however little compared to other great composers. I challenge anyone to say that Mozart did the same. That's all in my humble opinion!
paleastrinalover Give examples of “bad” Mozart pieces
Ускорения какие-то неприличные
Allan Brown а судьи кто?
너무 어랴워ㅜㅠㅓㅜㅠㅜㅜㅠㅠㅜㅠㅜㅠㅜㅠ
c'est bien plan-plan comme morceau...
das nächste stück, was ich spielen werde :D 10 seiten schrecken mich doch nicht ab....
8 Jahre her und hast du das Stück drauf ?
sounds like mozart lol
Wow! I bet you can do better tho🤔
Unsteady beat. I play this.
What fucks up my head is the fact that Beethoven must have felt easy to compose such a piece!
32, 33, 34 measure could use better melody. Wrong melody and please recognize the dynamics
It sounds as if Herr Richter couldn't give a shit at this point in his career.
but it is nice too listen
See this comment when its at 2023
took 2 days to learn the notes
Scoff
Histerical way to play a lovely piece and The Sit is too high...just a product of ussr principles of Beauty. .
He played it right! You just don't know how to play! Hahaha!
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