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High Rise Window Cleaning Basics
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- Опубліковано 10 бер 2020
- This video is about High Rise Window Cleaning Basics. The high rise window cleaner works with the best views in the city. When working as a high rise window cleaner the worker is always thinking one step ahead of their movements. Lets look at the Petzl ID as a descender and the Petzl ASAP as a rope grab/fall arrester while washing windows on high rise buildings. The process and pattern in conjunction of this rope descent system and the applicator, squeegee and suction cup working together for seamless, smooth and efficient process to increase worker productivity.
Just got a job as a High Rise Window Cleaner in my hometown starting tomorrow. I'm super excited!! I'm a beginner but wanted to get into the Rope Acess field for about a year or two now!! I appreciate your guy's videos.
How did your window washer job go? Is it going good ?
@@kevincroes4860 Hey Kevin, it is going great thanks for asking!!
great video, great commentary. thank you for the share.
I dont have the balls for this. My hats off to you sir.
It's not that big of a building. The Burj Khalifa is a different story which has to be done all over again as soon as they finish.
It's really much safer and less scary than using a ladder 😅
Dude it is 1000x safer than when my pops used to do it remember him telling me what it was yeah you had a harness but the harness wasnt shiiiit lol they didnt have all the hooks for safety etc when it was time to move and time for you to get up someone would pull you up literally they had to make sure of course you were tied off they harness my dad wore only went around both thighs and crochal regions and around your lower back you'd step and swing now its safer than heck yeah dont get me wrong shit is crazy it was more like rappeling before my dad had used to clean the riverside casino and the others in Laughlin Nevada in a bucket seat and the standing rig the old school rigs were not safe had no extra safety it was you either do it and get it done without fear or you most likely gone fall just like roofing I've done some crazy ass shit being held upside down while placing in a i beam that weigh about 75lbs with a impact drill and a hand crank i had to unhook my harness because I was the smaller guy and i could barely fit in the whole an we were atleast 10 stories high with nothing to break my fall if i slipped they even played a joke on me letting me fall a little bit i laughed my ass off idk why but i guess between the adrenaline knowing the only thing going to stop you is Concrete 10 stories down or the fact that welp it's my time might as well laugh
My dad used to tell me the stories of then vs nowadays the bucket seat was a totally like a bucket it was like a plastic small seat only certain sized guys were made for them tbh my dad being only 5'6" 5'7" between 135-145lbs at the time was perfect for it looked like a white child swing that they tied off to a hoop ring so you could go side to side and also repel down if you dont know what a hoop ring was for the old rigs let's say those cheap key chains are hoop rings but they were made from steel and alot stronger the harness was a thigh sitting harness you could literally sit in the bucket if the bucket fell you'd be sitting in that same position as long as you didnt move much until either the worker that helped you back up either made it so you could repel down or pulled you up they were extremely unsafe due to them being mainly plastic or fiberglass with a light metal bracket under the seat that you'd literally tie the rope into a U and it was literally a child's swing without the bar then they added the bar with chain lock to the seat with a X harness not much better than the thigh harness but more comfortable the harness we use now is crazy will this was like 10 or 13 years ago when I used it idk if it has changed it look as if it did but your legs would go into each up to the inside of your thigh and crochal area wrapped around your stomach over your shoulders the hooked into the belt which is the harness I still own
You casually climbing over the ledge sent my heart into overdrive 😳
I love that rope protector. That thing looks awesome. Wish I had that.
Thanks for the comments. Amazing to work at 60' with WFP. We use our 72 ' Gardiner pole often and enjoy both high rise and mid rise work.
I need a rope access window cleaning jobs
Your equipment you use was a whole lot better than what I use to use. 👍🏾Nice explanation Jeff😃
I still am finding equipment I've never seen before. It's great that people put this stuff out on video to be seen.
a chill drop on awesome architecture 🤙🤙
Nice. I've done residential since 2016 for myself. I closed up shop and joining a crew of wash warriors out here. Friends think I'm nuts.
I this it's cool Where! Get with they right company you'll do well. Where you located?
Downtown St. Paul??
Great video! Im doing high rise over in Montana and this helps a lot. The job im on this week has been more difficult than others because we are covering 3 panes wide with each drop and its quite a stretch for me to reach the far side of the panes to the left and right of me.
I realized today i should probably try using a suction cup to more easily hold myself stable because the small slippery frames arent helping much.
Wanted to ask you why you stick the suction cup to the window before you wet it, then reattach the suction cup after? What does that do exactly? We dont have the same suction cups as the one used in the video so maybe its different
Everyone will develop a system that works for them. Goal is to do everything the same at each floor for efficiency and decreasing each windows time. Suction cups work wet or dry. I first set cup dry as cup is available in hand before sleeve is and to get full pressure while reaching. Then cups gets removed or slid to wet under it and finally removed with last stroke of squeegee motion to close out. It takes time to develop. See our cups in single or double here www.windowworldsupply.com/product/4-single-suction-cup-with-lanyard/12?cp=true&sa=true&sbp=false&q=false
Thanks for your advice! Other than some rough weather my time on the ropes went a lot smoother today. I was using one of the completely silicone 4inch 4 finger suction cups and it helped immensely, I did pop of the window a few times unexpectedly and was wondering if the 2 cup you're using in your video holds better? The one I was using did not like having water on it and popped off most times I tried. I may have just been pulling to hard on one side of the suction cup because I I've noticed it I don't pull straight on them they tend to come off. Any advice is appreciated!
Check out the high rise content on our forum at www.windowcleaningwarriors.com
What descender and back up devices do you use?
We use the D4 decender and the Climb Right rope grab. Pretty sure we are getting new rope grabs soon I'd like to get one that doesn't need to be manually moved
Dude you’re awesome but I noticed two things. 1. That’s a Petzl RIG not an ID as it doesn’t have the panic button and it doesn’t have auto lockout if you pull the handle too far on the RIG down you go 👌🏼2. You should always have a stopper knot on the end of your rope to prevent it abseiling out of your device during the drop. Cheers for the tips! I need to use my suction cup more often lol I use grip strength for most jobs.
I appreciate your comments. This is a 2019 Petzl ID. Does have the lockout when handle is pulled too far and has a grab inside which locks the rope if rope is entered backwards. Rig doesn't have the grab inside. Button was also eliminated on the 2019 upgrade. Check out the review of the 2019 ID Rocky did with abc Window Cleaning Supply, it can be seen on the Window Warriors Forum
It is for sure an ID. You can literally see the anti-error catch.
There was a time when u could just climb over on 1 point?
What harness are you using ? Im new trying to get into the windows washing and rope access business... So far your setup caught my attention for being the most safe using the ID with the bosun chair, saw some guys using type of 8 climbing ring. Thanks in advance
DBI SALA Exofit Nex , blackout version. ua-cam.com/video/gmV29U96YtQ/v-deo.html
There are many similar styles that are good also. We enjoy the fit, accessories and appearance of the Exofit. Everyone has a preference that works with them.
I no longer use the Petzl ID because the limited life of them.
Man I start this in a couple days 😱
Cool! Where you located?
I'm currently deciding between a IWCA high-rise window washing safety course and a SPRAT course. Do you think most companies in toronto would hire someone with IWCA high-rise training?
I'm in the US so not sure but believe Canada has better , more strict views towards safety. Believ4 IRATA is their choice but miving In to SPRAT .
I personally stray away from the IWCA as their view changes based on the money they can benefit from. Their board is made up from companies who don't primarily service windows or highrise but they make the choices for those who do.
@@windowwarriorsforum9112 thanks! I appreciate the info
@hotwheelz8232 I have done SPRATin the US and was great but honestly alot of climbing horizontal and vertical and overkill for our use in MN where we have anchors every 10' Safety Green Training was very good and dedicated to our industry with a lot of relavant info.
@@windowwarriorsforum9112 awesome :) I’m emailing some local companies to decide between sprat and irata!
That suction cup looks really easy to use. Does it ever pop off the window?
He is using a single cup which are easy to use. At times cups do pop off unexpectedly but are very reliable
Can these chemicals for cleaning windows damage rope,if it gets wet from them all the time ?
Ropes do have a life and are required to be inspected and logs maintained. Standard soap and water won't have much effect on ropes but should be based on rope type and amount of contact. Our ropes are replaced every 2 years. We document initial service date and remove after 2 years. Exceptions are a fall, abrasions or contact with harsh chemicals, anything that will weaken the rope. A log of each rope shows the inspection date and length in service. There are ways to clean ropes also, refer to the manufacturer recommendations.
What do you do with a 4 ft over hang?
You would have some options but depends on situation and window style. I'd recommend posting this question and picture at www.windowcleaningwarriors.com
What angle should my squeegee have ?
Angle is totally a preference and depends on what your comfortable with. High rise I like Sorbo handles with the lanyard attachment.
I need job.
I am windows glass cleaning 6years expericence. For rope access
Nice hard hat.
Yes, times change! We're SPRAT certified now too. Remember back when we used safety belts, then half harnesses and now full-body harnesses?
Building look familiar Dan?
the only way i could imagine getting used to this is using the big bucket you walk around in just to get used to the heights and going top to bottom instead of left to right like store fronts. lol.
You have to be careful using that metal edge protector when your ropes are approaching at an overhead angle like that, they could easily slide off it if you swing too far to the sides.
Ropes can't slide off this edge protector. The posts that separate the two ropes are 2" tall. Rope would need to lift up 2" for this to happen. Especially when under weight, therebisnt a chance for this to happen.
Check out the Towa edge protector here.
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What would you say my salary might be starting out for the first year?
you gotta know how to clean a window first of all. depending on the place you'd probably start at 17-20 based on experience
What suction cup is that?
Likely just a regular single cup
Do you have to have license to do that is I'm might off well delete my application
No license but safety standards do state employees must be trained by a qualified person for the work they perform and equipment being used. Most companies don't understand what the term qualified means. This training usually isn't provided by a person technically capable and not documented. We get guys certified for RDS and or SPRAT.
Hey can I ask how much earn a person who do that kind of job (per day)? I mean generally, on average, not specifically you. And i'd like to know how often the same client call you to clean those windows again. I mean when will they call you to do that job again? The next month? A couple of months later? Thanks.
Employees will earn $20-$30 per hour on average locally. Many do get bonuses paid too. Customers typically are cleaned 2 times per year here.
@@windowwarriorsforum9112 And how much time it takes to clean all the windows on an average building?
All buildings are so different and ti.es are based on window style, location and placement. For example, all glass buildings are washed from top to bottom.
Do you require a L3 Rope Tech on all projects?
We do not require a level 3 on sites and SPRAT doesn't require us for logging our hours to level up.
Starting the SPRAT training is above and beyond what OSHA requires so we are good.
@@windowwarriorsforum9112 That's interesting. So in case of emergency, what's the rescue plan? I assume you're always working in descent, so there's that.
Rescue plan had nothing to do with a level 3 onsite.
Our safety manager, me, develops and reviews self and assisted rescue quarterly after each employee completes initial certification. We also have as part of our Work at Heights Safety Plan have a R400 device whetr all employees, inside and outside crews are experienced in using for assisted rescue without being in a fall hazard zone.
Requirements for level 3 is to "work under their supervision".
Since OSHA supercedes SPRAT the level 3 "supervision" isn't required.
@@windowwarriorsforum9112 Got it. Not taking a shot at you I just find it interesting. It's such a grey area in my opinion. I'm IRATA 3 and Australian (living in the US now). I just find it really intriguing.
Every job I've ever been on has required L3's to be in vicinity and for a 1 to be working with a 2.
That being said, you're not getting a job on ropes in Australia without being IRATA certified.
The US is just a different beast and I wonder if it'll ever raise it's standards/requirements or continue to dilute them.
Good discussion and shows how the US severely lacks in safety.
Most rope access window cleaners don't even use certified anchors. Really bad here with compliance and even understanding compliance.
Always get it the chair before going over the wall. Idk how that’s not basics by now.
The video wasn't recent but your partially correct. We constantly look for ways to ensure safety but still place chair 1st but with a secondary connection
i wonder if the pays still just a few bucks a pain err pane. even tho its hundreds and hundreds of feet off the ground.
The pay is a few dollars per pane but the volume is greatly increased. For example, a 10 story building 2 windows wide is 20 windows that can be cleaned in 10 minutes. Figure, 3-4 drops per hour is about 60-80 wi dows per hour. Adds up , can't be cleaning 60-80 residential windows per hour. Make sense?
@@windowwarriorsforum9112 yeh, but your outside only so your charging 2 dollars instead of 4. residential is totally different i make like 40hr on houses.
@@typerightseesight absolutely not $2, You won't make money that way
@@typerightseesight $30 an hour is good for an employee but not for a business
@@windowwarriorsforum9112 Right, with commercial window cleaning.. You get days with great hourly pay and days that barely meet minimum. If youve got a good boss you can earn a decent living.
Great job on the windows, but the pink granite walls definitely could be powerwashed.
Sure could, we don't offer that service.
Sounds like a you problem 🤷
@@windowwarriorsforum9112 why don’t you offer that service? Is to risky?
@@shapeshifter52001many businesses offer multiple services to keep busy. We don't offer any services beyond window cleaning because we have a completely full schedule with no add on services. Another reason is not all employees would be good at all services when offering a variety so why risk our main service for add on
Hello, I am a new resident in Ohio. I have 16 years experience in this field and I am looking for work. Can you help me or get involved with you?
I am in Minnesota but i would welcome you to join the Window Warriors Forum and see if another member is located near you to help. We like to network.
Yes, I like it very much
Me too😁😁😁
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I always want to know what the people are doing inside on the other side of the glass... cause I know they are making big money or they wouldn't be there! Inside banks, hospitals, insurance companies, oil companies and governments except for hotels... cause i really don't want to know what people are doing...
I think of it as my side of glass has the better job. My jobsite always changes, every day is washing windows but each job has unique challenges and I can work indoors or out. As far as the pay, I make a really good income. Even being an employee you should be paid well.
No hook oh u only like to make others do things the hard way.always the hard way with u
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