Thank myself for having the foresight to keep a 33 round mag on hand for home use at night, open fire, and keep firing until the threat is gone. That many attackers at once is too great of a threat to attempt retreating or talking IMO.
Right! Initially I thought “What are you doing!? That’s not gonna stop anybody” then after watching I realized. With a clear footpath the bad guy can pay 100% of his attention on you. But with the obstruction, instinctively he will pay part of that attention to the hazzard.
In how many states would her lawful response be, "Please wait a moment, I have to get my firearm out of the safe, and then get the ammunition from a separate locked container."
Just something else to think about is turning the lights off in the room you are in. Especially if the hallway lights are on. When the bad guy breaches the bedroom door, he will be coming from an area of light to dark and it will take a moment for his eyes to adjust. Plus the darkness gives you a little more concealment.
Something very important, especially if attackers can come from multiple angles, is to not get tunnel vision. I don’t mean that literally, it’s a term. It means getting to focused on a specific area so your surroundings go unnoticed. Having this happen can be catastrophic, it makes it a lot easier to get snuck up on, especially in a high stress situation where your already overlooking things.
First step is to heavily reinforce your doors. If u can get in with any amount of kicks its not good enough. Add angle iron around the frame and add heavy bar locks and barricade bars. Gives u time to think and get ready for whats coming if they get in at all.
Even just a better reinforced deadbolt and maybe some jamb pins in the hinges could make for better security than the door in this scenario, which is apparently made of tissue paper
This is why having a great dog is a useful tool. No one is getting anywhere near my front door with out her sounding off the alarm and waking my ass up out of even the deepest sleep.
@@chrissmith1364 that’s always one of my biggest concerns if someone breaks in is I know my dog is going to most likely be running towards the attackers so I couldn’t just hide I would be too worried about them killing my dog so I would unfortunately be walking around trying to find the threat to make sure my dog is safe.
A great dog, like a protection Malinois would be ideal. In my case, I have a terrible, stupid dog that will bark his head off. He's free to a good home FYI.
Yeah, my dog would bark to sound the alarm, but I'm not sure if he would fight. He's a well natured lab/pit mix and has never bit anyone before. He would also take the opportunity to run out the open door just to run around and be free like it's all a big game.
What’s scary is there’s been some home invasions where the attackers dress like the police, bust down the door while saying get your hands up. Then they shoot you.
@@olsk0004 That is exactly how my immediate neighbor and his wife got tied up in their living room as the 3 of the 4 perps went next door and did the same to my next neighbor. 2021was great for my neighborhood. So yeah, anyone invading my castle will get plenty.
at around the 1:21 mark 4 00buck rounds should have taken at least the first 2 down. if the 3rd doesn't go down or run then he gets the super slug. i was trained to not let the threat come to you, especially if you have home field advantage. my C.O. always said the best defense is a good offense.
@@RadDadisRad exactly, we were taught the 2nd best weapon you have is the element of surprise. another thing my C.O. liked to say was 'never be the hunted, always be the hunter'.
In her case she brought the Tactical advantage do her side now that got get to her without getting dead which she played that scenario perfect she blockade door as she got behind the dresser she told them the police was on the way that trip hazard screwed them up and she took first dude out before he could completely get in the room and he didn't even see her only thing I done different they never made down hallway I would had a 12 Gauge I would unlimited the threat with bird shot or double aut buck shot basically blow them back in to kitchen where the third guy was and he only had two ways out out back door or through line fire and I would held my ground at the doorway bedroom and hallway
@@corbettknowles9942 well i guess everyone has their own way of thinking. i was trained to not let the fight come to you, and it got me home so i'ma be sticking with what i know.
That was a really great illustration. I think so many of us would be tempted to pursue the bad guys or to try to clear our homes in that moment. Anyone with tactical training will tell you that’s a horrible idea but knowing something and performing properly under stress can often be two different things. Thanks for filming and posting this video.
Great video. Unfortunately I don't have the same kind of layout in a double wide and have less time to react. Oh well, a mobile homes is more apt to attract a tornado before intruders anyway.
Very realistic & informative. I learned a lot just from watching this. Putting a trip object in front of the door is something I would have never thought of.
I would do pretty much the same thing, except spend the extra time putting on armor first instead of barriers. A full size handgun is also nice against three armed attackers, but a semi auto 12 gauge or rifle caliber is even nicer.
Love the scenario but I’m sure a lot of your viewers have other family members they have to worry about protecting. I’d have to go out into my home to protect my children. I’d love to see a scenario like this played out. Many of us can’t hunker down in our bedrooms.
The floor plan for my house is that the Master Bedroom door is the first door down the hall, if I come out there is no way to the other bedrooms and bathrooms!!! My .45 would be barking and waking up everyone in the house, they know to stay in the bedroom till I give an all clear!!
@@GM8101PHX Yep, it's all about floor plan. My house, master room is right at top of stairs, with all kids rooms down the hall. Would have to pass me to get there. And top of stairs funnel is easier to defend. Lots of ranch houses put master at the end of the hall, which is not good for defense.
Just wait. One day your house might turn out like mine where if someone breaks in myself, my brother, and my father all are ready with a firearm at the top of the stairs
This was great for that scenario. I’d like to see the same thing, but with the homeowner in a “common space” like the kitchen, dining room, or living room/den.
I am a member of the USCCA. What the lady did was very good. She stayed calm alerted the police and stayed in her corner. Loved how she put the obstacles in the way to trip the bad guys. Great job!! Love the PROVEN GROUNDS CONTENT. When is the USCCA going to be doing them live again?
Excellent ! I'm happy to know that I'm doing all the right things, right down to throwing a few booby traps in place. I go through a security checklist every night and never take anything for granted. I've already got a "What If" plan in place and I'm as ready as I can be in planning for the worst ... God be with us !
We all need more videos like this. Scenarios to make people think and learn about legalities and how different situations calls for thinking things through.
I have door wedges that have alarms. It will slow them down, and immediately starts screeching. These things are cheap, but effective and loud. That noise on many cases will make intruders turn back around and run because they don't want that attention.
Just the thought of this is scary..I always pray and hope that my family and I never go thru this..but as of right now I do have 1 pistol and 1 shotgun hoping to get more protection, and of course I have my USCCA membership..thank you Kevin for all you do.
Great video. I loved how she used things in her environment to create obstacles. The flaw I see with the scenario is she was able to detect the third individual with her hearing. After firing shots in the enclosed space I doubt that’s how it would play out. The other thing this makes me think about is if the phone’s microphone would still function after shooting in close proximity.
That's a reasonable point. I also think that 3rd guy would have been the first out the door after seeing his buddy get lit up. As he seemed to be only carrying a knife.
@@FBobby more than likely on the third guy but I believe it is a good idea to train for a determined enemy so I appreciated that wrinkle. I imagine it is difficult dreaming up a scenario as a rational person imagining the behavior of the irrational.
The phone's microphone would likely be just fine, those things aren't super high sensitivity. But yeah she DEFINITELY wouldn't be hearing the third intruder after those shots till her ears stopped ringing.
I have the bars that go under door knobs to floor.... Those make it extremely hard to breech any door... much harder than you think... I have one by every bedroom door and exterior door ( those are up every night)
Megan did a good job. A class instructor told the us many decades ago to prep for the worst and hope for the best. Assume the individual(s) unlawfully entering after dark and are indeed coming for you and are all 6'5" and high on PCP. If at all possible....have staged and utilize a long gun. A couple of 9mm rounds into a man 6'5" high on PCP will laugh and finish you off. If I'm wrong....good for you. If I'm not..... Prep for the worst and hope for the best...neutralize the threat(s).
I decided to go with a high caliber pistol (.45 ACP with hollow points) AND an AR-15. The pistol is my go to if they get in the house before I realize someone is trying to get in (only takes me a second to get out if I need it) while the rifle is my go to if I have a little more time (takes a few seconds to get it out of it's case).
I personally know of an incident with an off-duty police officer in the middle of the night with a guy who was trying to break into houses in the neighborhood. The criminal went at the police officer swinging a piece of pipe with a sharp end. They were close enough that the first swing cut the officer's shirt and chest. The officer started firing his Glock 19 while rapidly backing up and alternating ordering the criminal to get back, get down. That was from ear witness statements. I don't remember the exact number of shots fired, but it was on the order of 14 or 15 (Glock 19, 15 round magazine plus one in the chamber) with about 2/3 center body mass hits before the criminal went down. He did not survive. He was a gang banger and the gang swore to get revenge on the officer, but nothing ever happened. Officers are now trained that if they put the first few shots into center body mass with no effect, assume the perp may be wearing body armor and go for a head shot.
@@chrisperrien7055 - Dead and out-of-the-fight are two different things. You need the second. May not require the first, and the first does not guarantee the second. Two rounds through the heart may mean they are going to die, but if they continue moving fifteen seconds to a minute it may be plenty of time for them to kill you as well. If two shots a to center of mass haven’t stopped them, either get headshots in the “T” or shoot their groin. Not only are their major blood vessels there, but breaking the pelvis should put them on the floor fast. Still a threat when down, but if they’re using contact weapons you should be able to stay out of reach.
I ordered a brinks security door bar. Videos show it can delay a kick in for a good minute which is all it takes to get your firearm and get into place personally I'd be near the door with prep time and unload as soon as the door failed.
I thought she did very well she stayed calm and kept out of sight. I really learned a lot watching this video as always I am so glad to be a member and have been for 3 years now. Thank you for make and showing these training videos. Craig Smith
The thing I took away from this is that you don't have to be John Wayne charging the sands of Iwo Jima. I liked that she established a good defensive position, took the shot when needed and stayed in that defensive position waiting for the cops to show up. Yes, that would work well for a situation where there are no other family members in other rooms. It would work with a single person or a couple without children/guests. It would be nice to see something involving more family members but for this situation it was well done.
The only thing that really stood out as a negative to me, is her grip. A live gun would be very difficult to control with that. That's were I would train if I was her. Fundamentals. But her coolness, even though this is staged and she knows things are coming her way, is still something to be respected.
Another negative is no hearing protection. Hearing protection is the second most important factor in self-defense, other than correctly using your gun, and she had no hearing protection like headphones.
Okay, now do this with family in other rooms. Protecting yourself is easy. Be responsible for other's safety. Remember, any movement between the door & doorframe allows for easier forced entry. Make sure your doors are tightly sealed against the doorframe.
If home owner isn’t wearing ear pros, her ears will be ringing after shooting. She won’t be able to hear phone with 911 or the 3rd perp outside the room. This really happened - I saw a WWII vet protect his grandchildren from home invaders with his rifle, then later the cops came and killed him. Cops gave verbal commands to drop gun but the WWII vet couldn’t hear anything.
Incidentally, I saw this play a role in solving a murder. Police responded to a home at which a woman had reported finding her husband assassinated, shot ten times with his own .38 Special revolver (the gun held only five rounds, so it had been reloaded and emptied again into him.) An astute patrolman who was among the first to arrive remembered the wife having a very difficult time hearing his questions at the scene.
Practice is crucial. Those obstacles in front of the bedroom door and herself could also impede her for escaping or moving around. I like how she's far away from that door to avoid from getting shot. Most of the bad guys on Active Self-Defense would leave their wounded buddy behind, so that was a surprised for bad guy #2 to help his buddy out.
I'd try to block the door with the bed, if I could do it quietly. I'm not sure that I'd make a vocal challenge - I'd probably stay hidden till it was time to shoot, unless I had reason to believe they knew where I was anyway. It was obvious they were violent. Keen home defenders might consider installing some bulletproof cover or some distraction devices. A panic button backup alarm (run off batteries) is useful too. They still won't know where you are or why the alarm went off. That gun (so nicely stored for night time) needs to be with the defender (in a holster) during the day no matter where she is on the premises. Or have a pocket pistol instead, but still in a pocket holster. I favor a shotgun for the fortess room. #4 buck is less penetrative than 9mm or 38spl, but still more devastating than either.
"Watch out for additional noises" seems good on paper, but try that when you've shot even a single 9mm round indoor without muffs. Your ears are gone and you can rely with your eyes only.
I live alone and I have multiple loaded hi cap weapons within easy reach all the time. If I were in bed asleep, my bedroom door would also be closed so that would be another barrier they would have to breech to get to me. I'm pretty sure I would be alerted when they came through the outer door. If that were to happen at my house I'd be only on the phone after the shooting was over, and I'd probably have a lot of holes in my walls.
When seconds count and your gun is minute(s) away, even more so in such States as here in CA where it can be very time consuming to get armed. Now other weapons with other defensive procedure help in the time factor.
Excellent example. My thought was what happened to the third guy. I thought he was going to go in after the other two had exited. Really something to think about. I liked the oblique angle she presented. I'm not sure I would think of that.
From the outside shot, it appeared to be a mobile home, so doors are not as easily nor well secured as a stick built. I am not sure you COULD secure one well enough to do much good.
It was a prop door in a prop house. Made to pop out without too much collateral damage, so they can set back up for next person. Unlike Alex Baldwin’s props, these aren’t meant to work like real ones.
Question, why do you have to warn the threat? Isn’t that just giving away your position? Just asking for clarification, is it for legal purposes? An intruder should have zero rights when breaking into someone’s home. Thanks for the advice.
There is no legal standard for warning an intruder. It only sounds better in court if for some reason you got charged, which unless you have a duty to retreat, the odds of you being charged are . . . Slim to none. If your state has "castle doctrine (read your state's statutes on deadly force in defense of a dwelling/property)" you're fine unless you tried smoking them as they left and you "knew they were leaving". That might make the court think you had intent to kill and not to simply stop which is the standard. Should you warn them? Well . . Do you think it's tactically beneficial for them to know? You don't know why they are there, only that you have reason to believe they are most likely there to cause you harm. I mean why would you not assume that? Would I barricade myself in a room? No. I need space to retreat. And my room in the context of this video is a bullet magnet. I'm stuck in the bullet magnet, whereas if i start closer to them, I could keep assuming tactical positions. I really . . Really don't want to fight from my bedroom. Hope your question is answered.
@@jamesmorell1758 you're better off in a space with no other avenues of entry or ambush. Let them funnel into your door.. If one body at the door doesn't deter them maybe two bodies will...
I like the senerio, but... the door they kicked in crumpled like paper... reinforce all access points... even windows if you can.. bars, grates, rose bushes... if someone tries to kick in any of my doors they are not getting in with one kick which gives me the advantage... and I have castle doctrine in my state... and I have motion cameras.
I'm in a two story house on the second floor. A family member is somewhere on the first floor. A home invasion begins at the first floor. To get to the first floor to protect family there, what is the safest way down the stairs when from the first floor the intruders can see you coming beging at your feet with you being the target getting larger each step while I can't see them until I am all but fully exposed??? Staying upstairs leaving family member unprotected, or being attacked not a option.
What would you suggest? Teach the kids how to shoot, so they can take care of themselves, If you live alone great, but no senario if perfect, Kids in the house, uprade security sistem to get early warning
With kids in another bedroom, I think you don't have any choice but to go meet the threat. The plan in my house is mom makes a beeline straight to the kids and I am close behind protecting that retreat to safety.
My wife and I have the same problem, our children's rooms are on the far side. Our plan is that I would have to do initial confrontation with intruder, she's calling 911, grabbing my support weapon and heading to the children. I clear my house with my Colt .357 and she brings up behind with the Mossberg 12ga.
She did everything right except for she should have pulled that dresser from the wall and have a better cover and turn that light off in that bedroom and just open fire when they come through that door
Yes, I thought leaving the light on was not good but leaving the curtains open at night is never good. Had the curtains been closed having the light on would have been better.
Have you run the same scenario but with family in the home? If something goes bump in the night, I can't barricade myself in my room when my children are sleeping or playing in rooms across the house.
My house is way less than ideal for this situation. My sister moved in with me and stays in a room down stairs with my nephew but my niece has a room upstairs across from mine. Luckily we have a game room up stairs directly across from my door that overlooks the front and rear entrance so I keep a clean path so if someone breaks in I can see them fast. Only problem is it's so short that if someone did enter I'd only have barely enough time to identify and shoot without warning because if they pass me they have direct access to my sister and nephew
It's sad and scary that we would even have to think about taking such tactical self-defense measures but maybe discussing a detailed plan and execution with other family members would help you all be more prepared.
@@noncompliant209cali that's unfortunate that she doesn't recognize how violent our society has become. It's too late when people say "it won't happen to me" and then it does. Aside from your sisters, do the other family members feel the same ? I wish you luck my friend. God be with you .
Small observation: Difference between cover and concealment--the bad guy has seen too many movies too, and will hide behind a door, wall, around a corner, whatever thinking if you can't see him you can't hit him. Once you know where he is, shoot AT the door, wall, cover. Bullet will go through, no problem. Just be sure its the bad guy hiding. As for YOU--COVER- What can you get that will stop a bullet? your gun safe, a chimney, a large heavy planter? Also, IMHO, giving a warning, especially if you are a female, might not be a great idea.
Flimsy front door was a big mistake. The front door should be so solid, and so secured with bolts, braces, and chains, that it will take perps at least a full minute to get through it.
What if there had been other family members in the house.. this would definitely create a whole new set of responses. Can your group recreate a expanded train vid, for this scenario?
I guess I should consult my local laws, but generally speaking, am I legally obligated to verbalize anything if it's my home at 2am? Anything beyond get out of my home I think isn't necessary. Would a procecutor try to put holes in my self defense claim by saying I didn't verbalize enough and multiple times? If there's any case that verbalizing anything isn't legally required it's in my own home at 2am.
My first line of defense is two well trained German Shepherds. If your dumb enough not to do proper recon, you’re going to have a bad day moments after breaching the door. You might get one but your not getting both of them. I may not pursue you out the door, but my girls will and they will not stop until the threat is neutralized. No hesitation, no questioning, no fear. Their cooperative efficiency is a thing of beauty the watch.
Before watching my answer is make all the holes my xdm elite 4.5 (9mm 22+1)can make. I have like a 30% chance of having a front plate on since I wear it at home. I started wearing it at work and stopped having back pain so I wear it commonly. I think I slouch and the plate won't let me anymore.
If I'm in bedroom 20 plus one from my 8.5 inch suppressed 300 blackout with a 3x prism and an offset 507c acss. After the blackout runs out grabbing my loaded full size 5.56 in the corner or pistol next to bed.
Home invasion was common back in the 80's and 90's it's my experience to meet the bad guy at the entrance point window or door etc. It's better to have the fight there because once the attackers are inside the more dangerous they can be.
Would prefer an AR w/30 round mag to a handgun in that scenario. And after hearing multiple intruders, would swiss-cheesing the wall the on either side of the door jamb be an appropriate response the instant the first guy busts in and is stopped (assuming no innocents could be expected to possibly be hit)?
There’s be a decent amount of damage to property. If you know for sure no innocent person would be harmed, and can pay for repairs, I guess I don’t see much that’s wrong with that.
As well as the obvious security measures, weapons and plan, there are lots of minor adaptations you can make to you home to feel safer from gunshots or to distract and impede an intruder once he is inside. An interior wall-mounted (strobe?) light; bullet-proof obstacles you can shelter behind; things that make a sudden loud noise...These can help you to hide or get away or get the first shot on target.
I have a solid core door for my bedroom, with re-enforced jams and a metal sleeve under the deadbolt. I've got plenty of time to get ready for intruders. Oh, and were those doors real life?
FIRST THING IS YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT COP'S GOING INTO THE WRONG HOUSE WHICH HAPPENS A LOT. AFTER YOU DETERMINE THEY'RE NOT COP'S THEN YOU CAN DEFEND YOURSELF.
No one was wearing body armor. Those were sensor vests and a body cam for the scenario. It was a good scenario and she did everything right. In my house there are 2 of us both armed and I would have a shotgun.
every state should have a "castle doctrine" as it should be assumed that if a person or people force their way in they intend to harm the occupants of the home,so use of force for defense in a home should be allowed up to and including lethal force. there is no way to determine beforehand what an intruder intends,it could be just robbery or it could be assault/kidnapping/rape/murder.
What would you do in this scenario?
Thank myself for having the foresight to keep a 33 round mag on hand for home use at night, open fire, and keep firing until the threat is gone. That many attackers at once is too great of a threat to attempt retreating or talking IMO.
Camp a door and start to push as I fire.
Start shooting. Nobody does that without intent to do harm.
Grab my gun and wait to see where they come into my zone
Open fire and let God sort it out.
Putting a trip obstacle in front of the door makes perfect sense. If ever in a similar situation, I hope I think to do that.
A metal pipe works well.
My dogs are amazing trip obstacles
Right! Initially I thought “What are you doing!? That’s not gonna stop anybody” then after watching I realized. With a clear footpath the bad guy can pay 100% of his attention on you. But with the obstruction, instinctively he will pay part of that attention to the hazzard.
by commenting on this then reading my response you'll remember hope you never have e to deal with this tho
...........................you do those trip obstacles everynight as part of your going to bed ,
In how many states would her lawful response be, "Please wait a moment, I have to get my firearm out of the safe, and then get the ammunition from a separate locked container."
But who decide in my house ?
I’m so glad I live in a free state instead of a communist democrat one.
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Just something else to think about is turning the lights off in the room you are in. Especially if the hallway lights are on. When the bad guy breaches the bedroom door, he will be coming from an area of light to dark and it will take a moment for his eyes to adjust. Plus the darkness gives you a little more concealment.
Something very important, especially if attackers can come from multiple angles, is to not get tunnel vision. I don’t mean that literally, it’s a term. It means getting to focused on a specific area so your surroundings go unnoticed. Having this happen can be catastrophic, it makes it a lot easier to get snuck up on, especially in a high stress situation where your already overlooking things.
First step is to heavily reinforce your doors. If u can get in with any amount of kicks its not good enough. Add angle iron around the frame and add heavy bar locks and barricade bars. Gives u time to think and get ready for whats coming if they get in at all.
I don't live in Alcatraz.
Even just a better reinforced deadbolt and maybe some jamb pins in the hinges could make for better security than the door in this scenario, which is apparently made of tissue paper
She did good. I especially liked that she stayed put.
The movies where they always go out and look around are always scary
@@JesusIsKing-OfKings The movie industry wants you to make that mistake, the woman did perfect by staying put!!!!
@@GM8101PHX that’s a good point, I’d always stay put.
This is why having a great dog is a useful tool. No one is getting anywhere near my front door with out her sounding off the alarm and waking my ass up out of even the deepest sleep.
Yes I have alarm, GUNS and dog, my worry is my dog will go after them and get shot.
Same, I have 2 mastiffs and a Rottweiler. It's going to be a loud alarm ⏰.
@@chrissmith1364 that’s always one of my biggest concerns if someone breaks in is I know my dog is going to most likely be running towards the attackers so I couldn’t just hide I would be too worried about them killing my dog so I would unfortunately be walking around trying to find the threat to make sure my dog is safe.
A great dog, like a protection Malinois would be ideal. In my case, I have a terrible, stupid dog that will bark his head off. He's free to a good home FYI.
Yeah, my dog would bark to sound the alarm, but I'm not sure if he would fight. He's a well natured lab/pit mix and has never bit anyone before. He would also take the opportunity to run out the open door just to run around and be free like it's all a big game.
What’s scary is there’s been some home invasions where the attackers dress like the police, bust down the door while saying get your hands up. Then they shoot you.
That is scary! Bad guys dressing like bad guys!
Sometimes it is the police invading your castle. ...Doesnt change a thing.
@@sloppyoppie would you shoot if you hear “POLICE SEARCH WARRANT” and they enter?
@@olsk0004 That is exactly how my immediate neighbor and his wife got tied up in their living room as the 3 of the 4 perps went next door and did the same to my next neighbor. 2021was great for my neighborhood. So yeah, anyone invading my castle will get plenty.
@@glasslinger 10/10
at around the 1:21 mark 4 00buck rounds should have taken at least the first 2 down. if the 3rd doesn't go down or run then he gets the super slug. i was trained to not let the threat come to you, especially if you have home field advantage. my C.O. always said the best defense is a good offense.
I was trained to not inform the threat of your location by calling out. I mean it’s basically hide n seek. Why tf you giving up your advantage.
@@RadDadisRad exactly, we were taught the 2nd best weapon you have is the element of surprise. another thing my C.O. liked to say was 'never be the hunted, always be the hunter'.
In her case she brought the Tactical advantage do her side now that got get to her without getting dead which she played that scenario perfect she blockade door as she got behind the dresser she told them the police was on the way that trip hazard screwed them up and she took first dude out before he could completely get in the room and he didn't even see her only thing I done different they never made down hallway I would had a 12 Gauge I would unlimited the threat with bird shot or double aut buck shot basically blow them back in to kitchen where the third guy was and he only had two ways out out back door or through line fire and I would held my ground at the doorway bedroom and hallway
@@corbettknowles9942 well i guess everyone has their own way of thinking. i was trained to not let the fight come to you, and it got me home so i'ma be sticking with what i know.
Don't give away position and do not go clearing rooms stay put.
That was a really great illustration. I think so many of us would be tempted to pursue the bad guys or to try to clear our homes in that moment. Anyone with tactical training will tell you that’s a horrible idea but knowing something and performing properly under stress can often be two different things. Thanks for filming and posting this video.
I might add the woman was very pleasant to look at, and I feel she is a police officer, well done !!!!
Great video. Unfortunately I don't have the same kind of layout in a double wide and have less time to react. Oh well, a mobile homes is more apt to attract a tornado before intruders anyway.
A good training video. Blocking the closed and locked bedroom door was very effective at distracting the attacker.
I’ve been USCCA Member since receiving my CCW Permit in 2014. Great peace of mind and training! Thank you, USCCA!!!
Have fun getting your membership revoked on the day you actually need it.
Very realistic & informative. I learned a lot just from watching this. Putting a trip object in front of the door is something I would have never thought of.
I would do pretty much the same thing, except spend the extra time putting on armor first instead of barriers. A full size handgun is also nice against three armed attackers, but a semi auto 12 gauge or rifle caliber is even nicer.
Except don’t tell the bad guys you’re in the house alone. Let them find out.
AR pistol with soft points.
Armor is nice if you have the budget for it but for lower income households that can't afford it, barricades are a viable and cost effective strategy.
@@sgtbones1837 .300 Blackout excels at this. Great ballistics out of a 9 inch barrel.
@@morgatron4639 Thinking of getting one but don't want to start another caliber. I also have AK pistols with soft points.
Love the scenario but I’m sure a lot of your viewers have other family members they have to worry about protecting. I’d have to go out into my home to protect my children. I’d love to see a scenario like this played out. Many of us can’t hunker down in our bedrooms.
I'd like to see a video like that also .
The floor plan for my house is that the Master Bedroom door is the first door down the hall, if I come out there is no way to the other bedrooms and bathrooms!!! My .45 would be barking and waking up everyone in the house, they know to stay in the bedroom till I give an all clear!!
I don't... U enter my castle... U're in serious jeopardy.
@@GM8101PHX Yep, it's all about floor plan. My house, master room is right at top of stairs, with all kids rooms down the hall. Would have to pass me to get there. And top of stairs funnel is easier to defend. Lots of ranch houses put master at the end of the hall, which is not good for defense.
Just wait. One day your house might turn out like mine where if someone breaks in myself, my brother, and my father all are ready with a firearm at the top of the stairs
This was great for that scenario. I’d like to see the same thing, but with the homeowner in a “common space” like the kitchen, dining room, or living room/den.
Better have the gun ready and next to you!!!!
I am a member of the USCCA. What the lady did was very good. She stayed calm alerted the police and stayed in her corner. Loved how she put the obstacles in the way to trip the bad guys. Great job!! Love the PROVEN GROUNDS CONTENT. When is the USCCA going to be doing them live again?
Excellent ! I'm happy to know that I'm doing all the right things, right down to throwing a few booby traps in place. I go through a security checklist every night and never take anything for granted. I've already got a "What If" plan in place and I'm as ready as I can be in planning for the worst ... God be with us !
We all need more videos like this. Scenarios to make people think and learn about legalities and how different situations calls for thinking things through.
I have door wedges that have alarms. It will slow them down, and immediately starts screeching. These things are cheap, but effective and loud. That noise on many cases will make intruders turn back around and run because they don't want that attention.
Just the thought of this is scary..I always pray and hope that my family and I never go thru this..but as of right now I do have 1 pistol and 1 shotgun hoping to get more protection, and of course I have my USCCA membership..thank you Kevin for all you do.
Great video. I loved how she used things in her environment to create obstacles. The flaw I see with the scenario is she was able to detect the third individual with her hearing. After firing shots in the enclosed space I doubt that’s how it would play out.
The other thing this makes me think about is if the phone’s microphone would still function after shooting in close proximity.
That's a reasonable point. I also think that 3rd guy would have been the first out the door after seeing his buddy get lit up. As he seemed to be only carrying a knife.
@@FBobby more than likely on the third guy but I believe it is a good idea to train for a determined enemy so I appreciated that wrinkle. I imagine it is difficult dreaming up a scenario as a rational person imagining the behavior of the irrational.
The phone's microphone would likely be just fine, those things aren't super high sensitivity. But yeah she DEFINITELY wouldn't be hearing the third intruder after those shots till her ears stopped ringing.
Unless you have a silencer.
Third guy is not always going to run, he may be high as a pine tree. Come running towards you or start tve house on fire etc
I have the bars that go under door knobs to floor.... Those make it extremely hard to breech any door... much harder than you think... I have one by every bedroom door and exterior door ( those are up every night)
And several minutes into this and still the police officers are still miles away! How "real life" this incident went.
Only one you can count on is yourself !
@@lorraineakers8147 correct. That is why firearms are so important in American life and liberty.
Megan did a good job. A class instructor told the us many decades ago to prep for the worst and hope for the best. Assume the individual(s) unlawfully entering after dark and are indeed coming for you and are all 6'5" and high on PCP. If at all possible....have staged and utilize a long gun. A couple of 9mm rounds into a man 6'5" high on PCP will laugh and finish you off. If I'm wrong....good for you. If I'm not.....
Prep for the worst and hope for the best...neutralize the threat(s).
I decided to go with a high caliber pistol (.45 ACP with hollow points) AND an AR-15. The pistol is my go to if they get in the house before I realize someone is trying to get in (only takes me a second to get out if I need it) while the rifle is my go to if I have a little more time (takes a few seconds to get it out of it's case).
I personally know of an incident with an off-duty police officer in the middle of the night with a guy who was trying to break into houses in the neighborhood. The criminal went at the police officer swinging a piece of pipe with a sharp end. They were close enough that the first swing cut the officer's shirt and chest. The officer started firing his Glock 19 while rapidly backing up and alternating ordering the criminal to get back, get down. That was from ear witness statements. I don't remember the exact number of shots fired, but it was on the order of 14 or 15 (Glock 19, 15 round magazine plus one in the chamber) with about 2/3 center body mass hits before the criminal went down. He did not survive. He was a gang banger and the gang swore to get revenge on the officer, but nothing ever happened.
Officers are now trained that if they put the first few shots into center body mass with no effect, assume the perp may be wearing body armor and go for a head shot.
2 center-mass shots of 9MM HP, will take anyone down . I'd venture 95% of the time, 6'5" ,PCP, or not.
That's why you should have a .300 Blackout with 30 rounds of ammo meant to kill deer.
@@chrisperrien7055 - Dead and out-of-the-fight are two different things. You need the second. May not require the first, and the first does not guarantee the second. Two rounds through the heart may mean they are going to die, but if they continue moving fifteen seconds to a minute it may be plenty of time for them to kill you as well.
If two shots a to center of mass haven’t stopped them, either get headshots in the “T” or shoot their groin. Not only are their major blood vessels there, but breaking the pelvis should put them on the floor fast. Still a threat when down, but if they’re using contact weapons you should be able to stay out of reach.
I ordered a brinks security door bar. Videos show it can delay a kick in for a good minute which is all it takes to get your firearm and get into place personally I'd be near the door with prep time and unload as soon as the door failed.
I thought she did very well she stayed calm and kept out of sight. I really learned a lot watching this video as always I am so glad to be a member and have been for 3 years now. Thank you for make and showing these training videos.
Craig Smith
The thing I took away from this is that you don't have to be John Wayne charging the sands of Iwo Jima. I liked that she established a good defensive position, took the shot when needed and stayed in that defensive position waiting for the cops to show up. Yes, that would work well for a situation where there are no other family members in other rooms. It would work with a single person or a couple without children/guests. It would be nice to see something involving more family members but for this situation it was well done.
The only thing that really stood out as a negative to me, is her grip. A live gun would be very difficult to control with that. That's were I would train if I was her. Fundamentals. But her coolness, even though this is staged and she knows things are coming her way, is still something to be respected.
Another negative is no hearing protection.
Hearing protection is the second most important factor in self-defense, other than correctly using your gun, and she had no hearing protection like headphones.
Okay, now do this with family in other rooms. Protecting yourself is easy. Be responsible for other's safety.
Remember, any movement between the door & doorframe allows for easier forced entry. Make sure your doors are tightly sealed against the doorframe.
This was great! Her response was great. Would love to see one with a family in different rooms. Thanks for all you do.
If home owner isn’t wearing ear pros, her ears will be ringing after shooting. She won’t be able to hear phone with 911 or the 3rd perp outside the room. This really happened - I saw a WWII vet protect his grandchildren from home invaders with his rifle, then later the cops came and killed him.
Cops gave verbal commands to drop gun but the WWII vet couldn’t hear anything.
Incidentally, I saw this play a role in solving a murder. Police responded to a home at which a woman had reported finding her husband assassinated, shot ten times with his own .38 Special revolver (the gun held only five rounds, so it had been reloaded and emptied again into him.)
An astute patrolman who was among the first to arrive remembered the wife having a very difficult time hearing his questions at the scene.
Practice is crucial. Those obstacles in front of the bedroom door and herself could also impede her for escaping or moving around. I like how she's far away from that door to avoid from getting shot. Most of the bad guys on Active Self-Defense would leave their wounded buddy behind, so that was a surprised for bad guy #2 to help his buddy out.
Excellent. We were also trained in the Plus-1 Rule: If you see or hear 2 people, assume there are 3 (or more). Stay safe and Happy 2022!
That literally just happened in Houston Tx on Richmond street. Thank god the good guy’s won. The wife kicked ass.
I'd try to block the door with the bed, if I could do it quietly. I'm not sure that I'd make a vocal challenge - I'd probably stay hidden till it was time to shoot, unless I had reason to believe they knew where I was anyway. It was obvious they were violent.
Keen home defenders might consider installing some bulletproof cover or some distraction devices. A panic button backup alarm (run off batteries) is useful too. They still won't know where you are or why the alarm went off.
That gun (so nicely stored for night time) needs to be with the defender (in a holster) during the day no matter where she is on the premises. Or have a pocket pistol instead, but still in a pocket holster. I favor a shotgun for the fortess room. #4 buck is less penetrative than 9mm or 38spl, but still more devastating than either.
*It’s a different situation when someone want your life instead of your belongings* IRL stranger than fiction
"Watch out for additional noises" seems good on paper, but try that when you've shot even a single 9mm round indoor without muffs. Your ears are gone and you can rely with your eyes only.
I love these scenarios. She appeared to do everything correctly, remaining calm until the end of the threat.
It was FAKE! Pay attention, it was a theatrical performance! How it would really go is completely unresolved!
I live alone and I have multiple loaded hi cap weapons within easy reach all the time. If I were in bed asleep, my bedroom door would also be closed so that would be another barrier they would have to breech to get to me. I'm pretty sure I would be alerted when they came through the outer door. If that were to happen at my house I'd be only on the phone after the shooting was over, and I'd probably have a lot of holes in my walls.
Great video and good tips. Angles, obstacles, stability
When seconds count and your gun is minute(s) away, even more so in such States as here in CA where it can be very time consuming to get armed.
Now other weapons with other defensive procedure help in the time factor.
That is where having a dog gives you a real advantage.
Or move to a state where you can feel safer 😜
This is a GREAT training video! I never thought of barricading the door
I JUST finally subscribed, after watching quite a few of your videos and really enjoying the education. Thank you for all you do.
Thanks for the info. I like these "what if" videos you guys are sharing.
Excellent example. My thought was what happened to the third guy. I thought he was going to go in after the other two had exited. Really something to think about. I liked the oblique angle she presented. I'm not sure I would think of that.
5 dogs sleep inside!!! A loaded ar, w/30 round mag!
that was intense, man thank you so much for this, please keep doing this type of stuff. I love all your content!!
She did a terrific job! 👏🏼
Nice done, but what do you do when you have kids in other rooms?
I'm a fairly new USCCA member. Thanks for the additional training.
Who ever put that door up needs to be removed 😂 it came down like so easily. Great scenario though! 👏🏼
From the outside shot, it appeared to be a mobile home, so doors are not as easily nor well secured as a stick built. I am not sure you COULD secure one well enough to do much good.
@@hwalter5432 yeah, it might be a mobile. It’s just all jokes lol
It was a prop door in a prop house. Made to pop out without too much collateral damage, so they can set back up for next person.
Unlike Alex Baldwin’s props, these aren’t meant to work like real ones.
"What would you do differently?"
Me: Leave no survivors...
Question, why do you have to warn the threat? Isn’t that just giving away your position? Just asking for clarification, is it for legal purposes? An intruder should have zero rights when breaking into someone’s home. Thanks for the advice.
There is no legal standard for warning an intruder. It only sounds better in court if for some reason you got charged, which unless you have a duty to retreat, the odds of you being charged are . . . Slim to none.
If your state has "castle doctrine (read your state's statutes on deadly force in defense of a dwelling/property)" you're fine unless you tried smoking them as they left and you "knew they were leaving". That might make the court think you had intent to kill and not to simply stop which is the standard. Should you warn them?
Well . . Do you think it's tactically beneficial for them to know? You don't know why they are there, only that you have reason to believe they are most likely there to cause you harm. I mean why would you not assume that? Would I barricade myself in a room?
No. I need space to retreat. And my room in the context of this video is a bullet magnet. I'm stuck in the bullet magnet, whereas if i start closer to them, I could keep assuming tactical positions. I really . . Really don't want to fight from my bedroom. Hope your question is answered.
Dead perps tell no tails , of course I gave them a verbal warning x2
@@jamesmorell1758 you're better off in a space with no other avenues of entry or ambush. Let them funnel into your door.. If one body at the door doesn't deter them maybe two bodies will...
@@robertcarmosino6563 bullet entry angle does though and they will construe standing over a downed intruder and firing as murder
What should I do, if a family member sleeps in another part of the house? My mother sleeps in a first floor bedroom, and I sleep on the second floor.
I like the senerio, but... the door they kicked in crumpled like paper... reinforce all access points... even windows if you can.. bars, grates, rose bushes... if someone tries to kick in any of my doors they are not getting in with one kick which gives me the advantage... and I have castle doctrine in my state... and I have motion cameras.
First thing, put in a storm or metal security door. Hard to kick them open and makes a huge noise. That gives the homeowner time to react!
If that's your go to position, I'm 100% onboard for a 12 gauge with 00buck for home defense
If my door was kicked in I would immediately kneel down and yell "Black lives matter!" With my fist raised into the air.
🤣😂
They're gonna hand you a ski mask and a duffle bag and say "let's go burn and loot then mf"
That’s a really good idea 👍🏽
LMAO !!!
I'm in a two story house on the second floor. A family member is somewhere on the first floor. A home invasion begins at the first floor. To get to the first floor to protect family there, what is the safest way down the stairs when from the first floor the intruders can see you coming beging at your feet with you being the target getting larger each step while I can't see them until I am all but fully exposed??? Staying upstairs leaving family member unprotected, or being attacked not a option.
Boom Boom Boom done.
This was really good to see.
Question: what if she had kids in a different bed room where she had to wave her bedroom? Could you do that scenario?
What would you suggest? Teach the kids how to shoot, so they can take care of themselves, If you live alone great, but no senario if perfect, Kids in the house, uprade security sistem to get early warning
With kids in another bedroom, I think you don't have any choice but to go meet the threat. The plan in my house is mom makes a beeline straight to the kids and I am close behind protecting that retreat to safety.
My wife and I have the same problem, our children's rooms are on the far side.
Our plan is that I would have to do initial confrontation with intruder, she's calling 911, grabbing my support weapon and heading to the children. I clear my house with my Colt .357 and she brings up behind with the Mossberg 12ga.
She did everything right except for she should have pulled that dresser from the wall and have a better cover and turn that light off in that bedroom and just open fire when they come through that door
Yes, I thought leaving the light on was not good but leaving the curtains open at night is never good. Had the curtains been closed having the light on would have been better.
Haven't even started the video and I can already tell it's gonna be awesome! Thank you!!!
The answer is simple: grab your AA12 fully loaded with buck shots and eliminate the threats.
You guys are the best! Between you and ASP, I continue to expand my knowledge and training for self defense with my firearms. Thank you
woman to 911 operator: "Send reinforcements immediately!"
Have you run the same scenario but with family in the home? If something goes bump in the night, I can't barricade myself in my room when my children are sleeping or playing in rooms across the house.
My house is way less than ideal for this situation. My sister moved in with me and stays in a room down stairs with my nephew but my niece has a room upstairs across from mine. Luckily we have a game room up stairs directly across from my door that overlooks the front and rear entrance so I keep a clean path so if someone breaks in I can see them fast. Only problem is it's so short that if someone did enter I'd only have barely enough time to identify and shoot without warning because if they pass me they have direct access to my sister and nephew
It's sad and scary that we would even have to think about taking such tactical self-defense measures but maybe discussing a detailed plan and execution with other family members would help you all be more prepared.
@@lorraineakers8147 I had a few discussions with them. Unfortunately I think my sister thought I'm being crazy and paranoid.
@@noncompliant209cali that's unfortunate that she doesn't recognize how violent our society has become. It's too late when people say "it won't happen to me" and then it does. Aside from your sisters, do the other family members feel the same ? I wish you luck my friend. God be with you .
Nice defensive positioning--blocking the door, providing concealment, and getting behind some cover.
Small observation: Difference between cover and concealment--the bad guy has seen too many movies too, and will hide behind a door, wall, around a corner, whatever thinking if you can't see him you can't hit him. Once you know where he is, shoot AT the door, wall, cover. Bullet will go through, no problem. Just be sure its the bad guy hiding. As for YOU--COVER- What can you get that will stop a bullet? your gun safe, a chimney, a large heavy planter?
Also, IMHO, giving a warning, especially if you are a female, might not be a great idea.
Installing doors that can't be kicked-in would be cheap insurance
Navy cop/NYPD I love training to be prepared!!
Great video! Gives you a lot to think about. Good idea to put obstacles in the path of the intruders. Thanks so much for the awesome tips.
AR and unload. Sorry but that’s what I’ll do when it happens. At that point I’m in extreme fear for me and my family. No questions ask.
Navy cop /NYPD I love training this videoing perfect!
Flimsy front door was a big mistake. The front door should be so solid, and so secured with bolts, braces, and chains, that it will take perps at least a full minute to get through it.
I absolutely love this scenario awesome work ❤️
What if there had been other family members in the house.. this would definitely create a whole new set of responses.
Can your group recreate a expanded train vid, for this scenario?
I guess I should consult my local laws, but generally speaking, am I legally obligated to verbalize anything if it's my home at 2am? Anything beyond get out of my home I think isn't necessary. Would a procecutor try to put holes in my self defense claim by saying I didn't verbalize enough and multiple times? If there's any case that verbalizing anything isn't legally required it's in my own home at 2am.
Excellent recreation!! KUDOS to the production crew!! Good job guyus.
I like the fact she kept count of how many times she fire.
My first line of defense is two well trained German Shepherds. If your dumb enough not to do proper recon, you’re going to have a bad day moments after breaching the door. You might get one but your not getting both of them. I may not pursue you out the door, but my girls will and they will not stop until the threat is neutralized. No hesitation, no questioning, no fear. Their cooperative efficiency is a thing of beauty the watch.
Before watching my answer is make all the holes my xdm elite 4.5 (9mm 22+1)can make. I have like a 30% chance of having a front plate on since I wear it at home. I started wearing it at work and stopped having back pain so I wear it commonly. I think I slouch and the plate won't let me anymore.
If I'm in bedroom 20 plus one from my 8.5 inch suppressed 300 blackout with a 3x prism and an offset 507c acss. After the blackout runs out grabbing my loaded full size 5.56 in the corner or pistol next to bed.
Home invasion was common back in the 80's and 90's it's my experience to meet the bad guy at the entrance point window or door etc. It's better to have the fight there because once the attackers are inside the more dangerous they can be.
Would prefer an AR w/30 round mag to a handgun in that scenario. And after hearing multiple intruders, would swiss-cheesing the wall the on either side of the door jamb be an appropriate response the instant the first guy busts in and is stopped (assuming no innocents could be expected to possibly be hit)?
There’s be a decent amount of damage to property. If you know for sure no innocent person would be harmed, and can pay for repairs, I guess I don’t see much that’s wrong with that.
Killing your neighbors takes points off your score.
I always post this on these videos: use a good exterior door and lock on your master bedroom.
As well as the obvious security measures, weapons and plan, there are lots of minor adaptations you can make to you home to feel safer from gunshots or to distract and impede an intruder once he is inside. An interior wall-mounted (strobe?) light; bullet-proof obstacles you can shelter behind; things that make a sudden loud noise...These can help you to hide or get away or get the first shot on target.
staying in a barricade room is great strategy unless you have other people in the house to protect
It would be cool to have a follow up video on what to do when you have kids in another room
I have a solid core door for my bedroom, with re-enforced jams and a metal sleeve under the deadbolt. I've got plenty of time to get ready for intruders. Oh, and were those doors real life?
FIRST THING IS YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT COP'S GOING INTO THE WRONG HOUSE WHICH HAPPENS A LOT. AFTER YOU DETERMINE THEY'RE NOT COP'S THEN YOU CAN DEFEND YOURSELF.
No one was wearing body armor. Those were sensor vests and a body cam for the scenario. It was a good scenario and she did everything right. In my house there are 2 of us both armed and I would have a shotgun.
every state should have a "castle doctrine" as it should be assumed
that if a person or people force their way in they intend to harm the
occupants of the home,so use of force for defense in a home should
be allowed up to and including lethal force.
there is no way to determine beforehand what an intruder intends,it
could be just robbery or it could be assault/kidnapping/rape/murder.
My State has extended domain, RV. car, tent, bicycle, horse,......
castle doctrine, but no stand your ground.
Awesome job young lady.
Great training video with much helpful information.
I think it would have been good to turn the lights off in the room to give her more coverage and harder to see to the intruders.
Once you focus and get your train of thought together Open fire immediately