'I blame Shay for Saipan!' | Packie Bonner & Shay Given give inside story of Roy Keane's fallout

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  • Опубліковано 26 сер 2020
  • Former Republic of Ireland goalkeepers Shay Given and Packie Bonner discuss the infamous Saipan incident, and why Today FM's Mario Rosenstock might have to shoulder some of the blame...
    We hear about the argument between Alan Kelly and Keane, how the incidents were viewed from inside the camp and Roy's sense of humour. Packie also lets us into a little behind-the-scenes Manchester United gossip from the time, featuring Sir Alex Ferguson!
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  • @dreamjackson5483
    @dreamjackson5483 3 роки тому +23

    Have you ever looked up where saipan is on a map? It's truly astonishing

    •  3 роки тому +1

      Nah but i will now cheers bud

    • @Forestgravy90
      @Forestgravy90 3 роки тому +1

      yeah i remember when I was 12 and seeing it about a continent away from the country they were playing in

    • @RadioNul
      @RadioNul 3 роки тому +17

      yeah. they flew 10 hours to tokyo, changed planes and flew ten more hours to saipan. for a world cup that was in japan. utter madness. you know the japanese would have rolled out absolute world class training facilities somewhere in the japanese countryside. but mick had a friend in saipan...

    • @desmonddoyle4470
      @desmonddoyle4470 3 роки тому

      Yea,Idid at the time,but anyone I told said I was wrong and that it was part off Japan.

    • @austinexplores756
      @austinexplores756 3 роки тому +5

      I was born and raised on Saipan. Nothing but chill vibes, nice people, beautiful beaches, bbq every weekends and beautiful stars at night. You all should visit Saipan one day, you won’t regret it!

  • @collydub1987
    @collydub1987 3 роки тому +78

    Is this the guy who made an absolute show of himself when he wouldn't let Gary Neville speak?

    • @DC66DC
      @DC66DC 3 роки тому +4

      I was thinking the same haha

    • @mattfairbanks7621
      @mattfairbanks7621 3 роки тому

      Yep it was

    • @TheLastAngryMan01
      @TheLastAngryMan01 3 роки тому

      Joe Molloy.

    • @Jumpmaster337
      @Jumpmaster337 3 роки тому

      What happened?

    • @IRAwhiskey
      @IRAwhiskey 3 роки тому +3

      @@Jumpmaster337 it's in one of the other videos, with keane & Neville on stage, interviewer wouldn't let Neville speak a couple of times when he tried to interject.
      I think it's the one where hes talking about fergie & leaving united.

  • @conors4430
    @conors4430 3 роки тому +7

    Two legends of Irish football here. Always had a soft spot for given even though I wasn’t a Newcastle fan

    • @Raven-qj8xk
      @Raven-qj8xk 3 роки тому +1

      Superb goalie! Given even tho a little short showed great athleticism throughout his career 👍

  • @paulroche2265
    @paulroche2265 3 роки тому +5

    Great to hear Shay talking about his pride in putting on the green shirt and walking out to that sea of green :) Spine-tingling stuff!

  • @jimmorrison8203
    @jimmorrison8203 3 роки тому +5

    Right, over to gift grub for a replay. All credit due like.

  • @patrickdoyle9304
    @patrickdoyle9304 3 роки тому +15

    If mick mc carthy had of been cuter he would have left Roy join the squad later. Mick wanted to equalise him. He wasn't equal, he was an odd ball captain. But ultimately what was good for Roy was good for us.

    • @mbucd
      @mbucd 3 роки тому +7

      Even though I think Mick did a decent job for us overall I thought his man management of Keane at Saipan was terrible.

  • @francisdermody8373
    @francisdermody8373 3 роки тому

    Any link to the gift grub referred to

  • @jimdoherty5010
    @jimdoherty5010 3 роки тому +9

    Yeah here's the truth,two big characters clashed ,first being Roy who clashed with most as he wouldn't accept mediocrity (winners just cant)and second mick who wouldn't or couldn't back down in front of the team and the rest is history.

    • @finneire2081
      @finneire2081 3 роки тому +4

      No what happend is what happens in mist jobs
      Crying and moaning and when one man stands up and speaks up the cowards wont back him up .
      Ive had it in jobs and its exactly what happend they went to their captin with their disgused at the conditions and treatment and roy been the captain
      Went forward and when hes turned to the players whi put him uo to it they were all to be found looling at the floor silent and walking away .
      If i was roy i woukdnt soeak to the entire line uo of sipan

  • @hugodrax71
    @hugodrax71 2 роки тому +4

    Ireland drew with Germany, progressed to the last 16 and were eliminated on penalties by a good Spain side. The 2002 tournament was hardly a disaster for them.

    • @Rm-ss5gv
      @Rm-ss5gv Рік тому

      It’s about what it could’ve been tho

    • @ThisIsMyRodrick
      @ThisIsMyRodrick Рік тому +2

      @@Rm-ss5gv I feel like the team played better without him. Roy only came across as arrogant.

    • @Rm-ss5gv
      @Rm-ss5gv Рік тому

      @@ThisIsMyRodrick that’s pure delusion he was easily the best player on the field every game he played with them have you seen his game against Holland ? Outstanding

    • @ThisIsMyRodrick
      @ThisIsMyRodrick Рік тому +2

      @@Rm-ss5gv I am not talking his performances. I am talking about the situation in the dressing rooms. I am trying to think from the players perspective with Keane having a Temper tantrum over ham sandwiches and dry-cleaning. Sure the real culprits Are the FAI, we know that but to take it out on the players or Mick was madness.

  • @silversteel6312
    @silversteel6312 3 роки тому +22

    I haven’t heard the story and who is this Roy fellow?

    • @weslee1450
      @weslee1450 3 роки тому +8

      Tennis player from Dalkey

    • @kmmining1359
      @kmmining1359 3 роки тому +4

      Roy Hull... he carries a mischievous ostrich around under his right arm

    • @becksketchbook9846
      @becksketchbook9846 3 роки тому

      Congratz.. finally you have internet.. dont shy to google search Roy Keane...

    • @JohnKobaRuddy
      @JohnKobaRuddy 3 роки тому +5

      A man called Roy went to saipan and murdered every kitten there and was blamed for Ireland losing the World Cup because of it. True story

    • @Jumpmaster337
      @Jumpmaster337 3 роки тому +1

      @@kmmining1359 did you mean Rod? Don’t make me Godwin’s law you.

  • @williambuchanan8192
    @williambuchanan8192 3 роки тому

    Great film

  • @thelolguy007
    @thelolguy007 3 роки тому +1

    Roy laughing at himself on ‘Gift Grub’ ...savage 🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏

  • @finbarrcorcoran9342
    @finbarrcorcoran9342 3 місяці тому

    One photographer,no pitch and no kit.. amazing.

  • @66kaisersoza
    @66kaisersoza 3 роки тому +8

    Does it matter anymore?

  • @daedralord1
    @daedralord1 3 роки тому +3

    Why does given have two cameras set up? I always heard that shay given was a bit of a narcissist

  • @roryobrien3884
    @roryobrien3884 3 роки тому +3

    Shay's hair line is tripping me out

  • @dondamon4669
    @dondamon4669 2 роки тому +1

    The Irish players were pathetic not wanting Keane there just coz he has high demands

  • @markbutlerfox9936
    @markbutlerfox9936 2 роки тому +6

    Roy Keane has standards

  • @noelcahill6707
    @noelcahill6707 3 роки тому +3

    How long ago was this now christ will it still be a topic in 10 yrs

  • @irwinpurcell
    @irwinpurcell 3 роки тому +8

    Roy was right what he done, the fai was and is a shambles.

  • @eoin182
    @eoin182 3 роки тому +9

    Roy was a great leader, but then you can't blame McCarthy because his record was also great. such a shame that it had to come to blows, because with Roy in that ireland team we could of won that world cup...
    I'm sick to death of seeing the discussion it's like revising wasted potential of what could of been

    • @ahlads
      @ahlads 3 роки тому +5

      we would have beaten the spanish, not sure we would have went much further

    • @eoin182
      @eoin182 3 роки тому +2

      @@ahlads would of played South Korea in the quarters. Was the best chance we've ever had to make it to final 4 in world cup football. Anyway not to be unfortunately

    • @Fintanflaherty
      @Fintanflaherty 3 роки тому

      Do tell us of Mccarthys great record

    • @eoin182
      @eoin182 3 роки тому +3

      @@Fintanflaherty Mick had a fantastic record as manager of Ireland. We were competing against the best. Unbeaten in qualifying against Portugal, beating the Dutch to a place in the world cup, taking Spain all the way to penalties...
      It's a shame Keane wasn't involved in the end.

    • @raymondbutler834
      @raymondbutler834 3 роки тому +2

      I'd say we've as much a chance of winning the Euro Millions or the National Lottery as Ireland winning the 2002 World Cup even if Keano was in the right frame of mind to play.

  • @gerardbyrne5563
    @gerardbyrne5563 3 роки тому +4

    Roy Keane is right and that’s that

  • @user-do1wv3ve1n
    @user-do1wv3ve1n Рік тому

    Arguably one of the best players not to play in a World Cup, sounded more like a holiday to be fair, one player done his ankle ligaments walking on their training pitch and said ‘If I was running , I’d of broken it’ , he was used to high end preparation for each club game, and this is the World Cup Finals. ‘Do me a favour, ur livin in cuckoo land’ hehe

    • @WangPaste
      @WangPaste 10 місяців тому +1

      Roy Keane DID play in a world cup in 1994 you lunatic 😂

  • @keltiquewood
    @keltiquewood 2 роки тому +1

    Get over it lads!!!

  • @Driver2616
    @Driver2616 3 роки тому +15

    Roy Keane, much as I have always admired him, was totally out of order in Saipan. No excuses, no ifs ands or buts.... He was just bang out of order.

    • @franciemclaughlin
      @franciemclaughlin 3 роки тому +1

      Still why he went out of order is another one! The FAI and McCarthy were badly organized and Saipan wasn't the right place to be! They didn't even practice penalties before the Spain game either! Mick had to ask around who wanted to take a penalty..

  • @Pdmc-vu5gj
    @Pdmc-vu5gj 2 місяці тому

    Irish always fight with each other and work in chaos. Why do you need an RandR prior to training for a world cup? Shambles.

  • @lifegoals9528
    @lifegoals9528 3 роки тому +10

    Shay was never much good after he left Newcastle, think he sold out and played for money from then. He was quite good for a season at Man City and then awful, embarrassing for Villa.

    • @cormackhotzie7874
      @cormackhotzie7874 3 роки тому +11

      That's just age. He was amazing for many years

    • @lifegoals9528
      @lifegoals9528 3 роки тому +1

      @@cormackhotzie7874 That's what I said! He was brilliant at Newcastle for ten years (was inconsistent until Sir Bobby Robson came in), and had one good season at City, but then lost his place to Joe Hart & was rubbish for Villa. Age caught him up and he should have just stayed at Newcastle really.

    • @cormackhotzie7874
      @cormackhotzie7874 3 роки тому +1

      @@lifegoals9528 Yea you're right. Newcastle were lucky to have him for so long

    • @eamonmac2751
      @eamonmac2751 3 роки тому +2

      You’re so wrong.

    • @lifegoals9528
      @lifegoals9528 3 роки тому

      @@eamonmac2751 He had one season in the first team at City, then sat on the bench for a whole season behind Joe Hart (Given only played 2 cup games and 0 league games).
      Then went to Villa and lost his place to Brad Guzan and got loaned out to lower leagues 😂😂😂
      Then went to Stoke and didn't play a game for two seasons 🐐
      He ruined his career to win ONE league cup!

  • @dondamon4669
    @dondamon4669 2 роки тому

    Hate this bloke! Imagine shutting Neville up!

  • @timjones6204
    @timjones6204 3 роки тому +2

    it's gone, it's over, it's history and more to the point....it's boring, move on.

    • @andyhello23
      @andyhello23 Рік тому

      People can go back and wonder and ask, and want to know what happened.
      It was a great chance for ireland, that roy keane messed up.
      Those chances do not come up very often for teams like ireland

  • @joewhelan5018
    @joewhelan5018 Рік тому

    After the FAI . .and the John Delaney story . .who fkn cares anymore

  • @sheedy9
    @sheedy9 3 роки тому +1

    I can't believe he actually blamed shay. Cmon that's a bit much... Mick and Roy probably had something to do with it..

    • @thebillryan
      @thebillryan 3 роки тому +12

      He was being tongue in cheek. A joke.

    • @DThat492
      @DThat492 3 роки тому +6

      Eejit. Clearly a joke

  • @ay613
    @ay613 3 роки тому +2

    U lot need to move.

    • @ay613
      @ay613 3 роки тому +1

      @John Brennan What are u on about u are still talking about an issue that didn't happen on the football field or something that resulted in any trophies. Even some of Ur own people don't want to talk about it.
      Goodness me u are getting triggered about football 😂 why are people so soft nowadays.

    • @seangoodspeed5210
      @seangoodspeed5210 3 роки тому +5

      @@ay613 get the fook out of Ireland.

    • @ay613
      @ay613 3 роки тому

      @Laoch Yh we do Ur point is??

    • @seangoodspeed5210
      @seangoodspeed5210 3 роки тому +2

      @G M what's your point ? Get the fook out a Ireland and we'll sort ourselves out.

    • @ROC14088
      @ROC14088 3 роки тому

      It was all Trumps fault

  • @descarroll2039
    @descarroll2039 Рік тому +3

    Bonner.....has more faces than the townhall clock.....

    • @user-up8nm9lo9u
      @user-up8nm9lo9u 11 днів тому

      How do you make that one out? Met him a good few times and a more sincere, honest man you will struggle to meet, never forgot his roots and does a lot for charity that he doesn't disclose, plus he is an Irish footballing icon !!!

  • @conorpavlic3121
    @conorpavlic3121 8 місяців тому

    2002 would yous just move on, you know there are world cups since then and guess what ? Ireland didn’t even qualify, that’s what we need to think about