@@michaellatner975 Funny enough spared everyone but decided to attack the king so i got like everyone recruited by the end of chapter 1. Also in chapter 2 you don't really need to meet all characters. For example you can still have the same result without fighting starwalker.
If you open your inventory to key items right after you enter cyber world, lancer will mention roulex or whatever he's called jumping out of your pocket.
Yes i noticed that when first i play deltarune chapter 2, i'm surprised there's only lancer that stay up in cyber world, and roulxs is eventually dissapeared without any scene
‘Everyone forgot about him let’s me real’ then there’s me over here who opened my inventory the moment i entered the new dark world to see if my card buddies were okay, and promptly freaked out that one was missing and spent the whole chapter looking for him until he turned up
When I did my snowgrave route, I for some reason decided to recruit and spare anyone while with Susie and Ralsei, but froze everyone with Noelle. As a result I still got the snowgrave route, but instead of the queen being disappointed that everyone is missing besides the trash can, she instead exclaims "Where's Nubert?!" and explains how he will not show up unless everyone is there. Just decided to mention this in case someone didnt know
This is the dialogue for not recruiting everyone if you recruit at least one. The reason you got it for a Snowgrave route is likely because you recruited Hacker/Checkmarks guy. Everyone you recruit except for him will become lost as a result from killing them on the Snowgrave route.
@@stinky2367 No. You can recruit Hacker by giving them all the checkmarks and still get the scene showed, but you have to keep attacking/losing recruits when not on the freezing phase of the Snowgrave route. Hacker is an NPC, so they don't count towards recruit-ables and does still make a breif appearance early during the Snowgrave path... But disappear when enemies start freezing. I was also thorough in my chapter 1 playthrough to "not recruit" anyone possible, but chapter 2 auto-recruits 1 of each type of enemy into the city to explain how recruits work... So all I got out of it was the Jevil knife and Shadow Crystal added into the Snowgrave completed file.
@@stinky2367 No, there's enemies present only in the palace that you can recruit. Yes, most of the enemies in chapter 2 are LOST during snowgrave, but there's still enough unique enemies to get the neutral queen interaction.
The dude making all the characters self-aware is actually a completely different entity and gaster in this universe is just some weird void dude that really likes eggs
Another thing about the shovel room, if you interact with the computer before leaving the room and letting the room fill with shovels, it'll make a joke about it being called the "Dozens and Dozens of Shovels attack", which is an analogy to DDoS attacks (Distributed Denial of Service if you're wondering), and if you know anything about this kind of stuff, it isn't actually a bad analogy.
Queen's reaction to returning to the town with nobody else around is enough to make me not do a genocide route, Noelle be damned. One of the only pieces of dialogue in a game that has tugged at my heartstrings, strangely enough.
to be fair the only time you're required to kill is while you're with noelle, i recruited who i could after finishing off berdly and i thankfully didnt get that heartbreaking line from Queen
It kinda gives the feeling that Queen is supposed to reference two major mother figures in Deltarune. The First is Toriel, mother of Kris and Asriel, and the Second is Noelle's own mother. It seems to be more on Noelle's mother, as Queen is more interested in Noelle, and while she wants to make Noelle her "Peon", it's because she wants Noelle to be Strong and Independant... ...And When she finds out what happens when too many dark fountains are open, she's genuinely shocked and horrified. Also, if you look carefully at Queen's Mecha form, it looks like she has reindeer horns of somekind. It feels a lot like Queen is based off both the Server Computer from the Lab, and Noelle's mother... Which can possibly lead to a future proper meeting with Noelle's mother. ...I would laugh if it turns out that outside of Work and Stress (Due to the loss of Dessy, her duty as Mayor and her Husband in hospital), she's just as much of a Hammy Goofball as Queen is.
it gets a little hard for me when you're forced to hurt other characters like with noelle.. I still did it, but I can tell you that if chapter 3 has you trying to kill any of the main cast that I'll flat out refuse to continue lol
if you inspect all the beds in the heart room in ch. 1 you get the role 'bed inspector,' and if you have that role in chapter 2 you get new text in the castle town. new hathy dialogue saying that you have to keep inspecting beds or you'll lose your title, and new text when interacting with your bed in your room, "* It's a bed that's been carefully crafted. * It's suitable for a bed inspector." (I can't be bothered to start a new ch 2 file to find the specific quote from hathy, that text changes when you've finished the chapter. The bed text stays the same though.) also you probably heard this already but if you tell noelle that susie eats chalk at the end of chapter 1 she'll give susie a lunchbox full of chalk when inviting her and kris to the library. In the dark world it turns into 'Light Candy' that heals (iirc) 120 HP ok edit: apparently you don't have to say that susie eats chalk, you just have to talk to noelle while she's at the gate in town. ALSO the hathy text is "* (Seems Hathy likes this place.) * (She hopes you'll find enough beds to inspect.) * (You'll lose your bed inspector title if you don't inspect enough beds.)"
Theres a door near the Annoying Dog easter egg that, when interacted with, says "You found the only knockable door" Ironically, this was the first door I even tried to interact with, so that was very lucky of me
Me too! I remember trying to interact with a couple doors at the beginning of that section but none of them worked, and for some reason I clicked on that one because I saw the Toby dog signs and saw that text! My proudest moment. :,)
reminds me of how i found the annoying dog easter egg on complete accident when i first played deltarune i was wondering why the gameover felt both wrong and familiar
There is one minor character detail that nobody seems to point out: When Noelle joins Ralsei and Susie, and is behind Susie, she has a slightly different facial expression, complete with blushing and looking a bit more downwards. If the start of the post-game or that conversation about Susie having a tail didn't clue you in, it seems like Noelle is checking Susie out. It's not important. It's just a cute little detail.
I swear, if Noelle and Susie don't get together by the end of the final chapter, I will personally [HYPERLINK BLOCKED] Toby into oblivion. They are so cute together!
Regarding the egg rooms: I find it very, very interesting that in Chapter 1, it was called "an Egg," and in Chapter 2, you receive "the Egg." This, of course, heavily implies that the egg in Chapter 2 is the same egg as in Chapter 1. It sorta reinforces the implication of quantum mechanics that way.
@@codebracker I believe so. Iirc in chapter one you can put the first egg in asgore's fridge and in chapter two you can put the second egg on top of the pile of eggs in San's shop
@@shadowstrike07 the egg just teleports to asgore's fridge if you don't leave it by yourself probably, since if you drop it or don't have it, the egg will be there anyway in ch.1 .
Regardless of what you do with the eggs, the game does keep track of how many eggs you found. You can check in your classroom with Temmie after returning from cyber world in chapter 2.
Kris dying in Dj fight is already implemented as a speedrun strat. It’s optimized by purposely damaging the team in the dodging section before the fight to make kris die with one hit. With the addition of a glitch called a wrong warp, another dodging section in another roomed is used instead to damage kris and the glitch allows faster travel between rooms specifically skipping the dj dodging section instead.
I think the “Spamton recording” Easter egg could also be a reference to Mettaton’s fight in Undertale, since he had that one move where he would do 🔴REC and then reverse the entire thing with the REPLAY. it could just be a neat aspect of Spamton’s own Snowgrave fight, but I figured that I’d point it out since he’s using the Neo suit like Mettaton was!
Creepy difference between the Normal route and the Snowgrave route: During the Berdly fight, if Kris is downed then Berdly will tell Noelle to stop fighting since Kris is unable to keep fighting. But in reply, Noelle states the she can still hear the voices (player’s voice) telling her what to do.
@@user-kp4xs3pz3o This is for the Snowgrave Route. (In case you didn't know, that route involves Kris manipulating Noelle and controlling her into freezing as many enemies as possible.)
@@googlymoogleson1418 Oh yeah i know about the snowgrave route, it's just that i didn't understand of which route he was talking about, if it was the normal or snowgrave, but makes sense that it is the snowgrave route. Thanks
You missed a few things lmao, don’t feel bad though. -Rouxls says “hey!” Along with his battle theme. -you can actually carry the pot to the other finish line in the mansion, but Susie will knock it off you anyway and run from you. She will also continue to smash any pottery she can. -characters say different things if you give them items or equipment in the menu. -Berdly is the only one who opens your gift. -Berdly will fry his arm if he pries the wire off him after you attack Queen or fight him earlier. -Lancer will provide commentary as you progress (inside your key items) -Star walker will come with you if you interact with him in chapter 1. -it doesn’t matter if you pass the “appointment” with Tasque Manager, you have to fight her anyway. -there’s a Swatchling that will show you the photo of you and Ralsei in the boat on the acid river if you return to it after regrouping with Susie. -Onion will not show up if you did not interact with him in chapter 1. -there’s a special interaction at the bunker south of town at the end of chapter 2. -if you talk to Noelle at the end of chapter 1, she will give Susie a lunch box full of chalk at the beginning of chapter 2. -Pushing Lancer back to the tables after he turns to stone will cause something special.
You should probably mention if you answer all of Tasque Manager's questions correctly then she can be instantly spared, and the other Tasque's get spared alongside her.
I’m so glad this isn’t one of those things that gives facts EVERYBODY knows like “it was Kris who slashed the tires and was prowling around” or some garbage like that. Good stuff here
Another thing, when Lancer turns into a statue you can push him left and right, if you keep pushing him left he will get a seat and a bowl of spaghetti will fall from the sky making the funny cartoon splotch sound
Here’s one more interesting fun fact When you are riding the queen car, if you manage to NOT hit any car, a small car will be recruit to your castle Correction: someone in the comment says that as long as you don’t hit the small car, it will still be recruit to your town, but for precaution you can avoid all of them if you want
Ok this might sound Crazy but would the Smiling Figure in the Basement be Mike over looking the Entire ordeal Spamton made a Comment on him being a Criminal that should never be trusted and if you seen the Ending the Smile also matches the Smiling Figure I think we got a potential sneak peak on chapter 3's Antagonist
"Mike" is actually just a reference to a commercial in 1997 about a soda called "BIG SHOT", which is basically Spamton's whole gimmick. Mike Ditka is a retired football player, coach, and TV commentator (from what a quick google search tells me) that sponsored the soda in a commercial, lmao!! Unfortunately, "Mike" doesn't typically seem to be a lore character, and instead just another one of Toby's wacky references :)
@@slinkymalinky9939 even so it's Toby we talking about here what if he wants us to think that and then The Reference becomes Real and Mike really is the Antagonist of chapter 3 if i know of anything References can be good for 3 things to be Nostalgic Funny and as a Possible Scapegoat We just don't know what goes on in his head when developing a game such as this
@@DeadlyBlaze I don't think ot focuses only on the television It would be kris's house. And the television will be an area We will START in the dark world
1:37 I'd like to point out that there's another smiling face in the basement! Right on the room before this one, if you're looking at that last outlet/plug thingy and use your phone, it turns into a smiley face.
I feel like I was one of the only people who immediately checked my key items when entering the new dark world. Lancer says that Roulxs left your pocket.
There’s special dialogue with the jail dogs if you talk to them before telling Undyne about the dark world. It’s super cool and talks about them “being attacked from the shadows by something MERCILESS!” And running into jail fearing for their lives ._.
@@percher4824 i hate it when people discuss about the fandom or internet reaction instead of the show/game itself, just enjoy the goddamn piece of media
0:41 no i noticed almost immediately after i opened key items for the first time because i knew that bastard would fuck things up i just didnt expect him to bring the duck with him
1:31 I remember been so mad about the fact that I called out the eyes being Spamton's colors in a stream and they made fun of me, this video showing that I was right made me a bit happier about it :)
I learned that depending on if you ate the moss in Ch.1 during the Dungeon section, Ralsei will have prepared some moss in the corner of your room in his castle. If you didn't or are using a no-save run the moss is absent.
The amount of Smash references here just remembers me of Toby LITERALLY GOING TO SAKURAI'S HOUSE, DESTROYING HIM ON HIS OWN GAME AND BECAUSE OF THIS GETTING SANS ADDED AS A MII GUNNER PREMIUM SKIN. toby is a madman.
If you don't recruit the Cyberworld* characters King also says "You left them behind" if you talk to him at the cage. There's no dialogue between him and Queen at all as well. *Actually Chapter 1 characters. Unsure if not recruiting Chapter 2 characters does this as well, but I would assume so.
Strange, I didn't cause anyone to run away in the Cyberworld, check my recruits, and saw that I have recruited everyone so I don't know why King said that “You left them behind” even though in spared everyone.
@@dragonking1166 You likely didn't recruit the Checkmarks/Hacker guy. You need to collect all three blue Checkmarks and return to him to recruit him in your town.
When fighting the dolphin ad enemies (sorry idk their names) and they use the ad attack (the one that hides their other attacks) you can actually move your mouse in the game which usually isnt possible
A little thing I found today is that if you interact with ralsei’s dummy before you bring everything from the unused classroom to the dark world, you have the option to hug it given that nobody is watching, if you do then ralsei and susie will have new dialogues regarding the hug.
One fun detail I found, if you interact with Asriel's room Kris closes their eyes and refuses to see it, and if you come back after getting Susie and Ralsei back, Susie will say something along the lines of "Is this your brother's? He better hope we don't meet".
Actually... if you interact with the Purple dragon drawing book at the start, before school, it implies Asriel is the one who actually took it out of the library.
Woah, wait - that should make me wonder in hindsight: How did asriel got a room on his own over there? Has he met the Queen or something else happened?
I'm sure other people also did this but if you just keep clicking on the Berdley statue Noelle gets increasingly disturbed until eventually she's like "yeah great statue can we go now??" Also if you got the "Bed Inspector" status in Ch 1 you get a little dialogue in the room Ralsei made for you about how the bed is fit for a bed inspector.
0:40 actually since he's my favourite character I was DEVASTATED when I opened my inventory in the new dark world and he wasn't there. I was thinking abt him th whole time, and I eventually thought that Toby had just forgotten him BUT THEN!! I talked to that butler in the cafe and my hopes were up again :')
As someone who actually was sad to see Rouxls not being in my inventory throughout the game and wandering where he could have gone to before encountering him at the boat ride, I'm glad you pointed it out at 0:34 lol, I never even noticed that the first time I played through. That said, I still wished he had stayed :( I thought the little interactions we had with Lancer were cute and I would have liked to see that with Rouxls as well (although at the same time I can't complain because I enjoyed building houses with him lol)
Another small egg: When Lancer turns to stone in the mansion you can push him. You of course can't really push him the whole journey with you because he gets stopped by the chairs, but when you push him towards the dining area he gets a bib and pasta at the table (going back later, the pasta is gone)
Also, when you after fight spamton neo (on pacifist not that damn genocide), spamton will give you a "Dealmaker" and "ShadowCrystal", but if you fulling your inventory with an item, a dialogue shows up that spamton is raged (idk the dialogue, but you can search for that) and only leaving a star walking into past darkness (i think that the star is spamton that have been defeated by kris and his friends, and usually turned into an item, walking out past the darkness)
Kris? Kris!!?? KRIS!??!?! DID YOU REALLY FILLED YOUR [Inventorium] WITH [Half-priced Salami]!!?? JUST TO KEEP ME OUT!? YOU HAVE LIKE 48 INVENTORY SLOTS
@BLU Engi The sound effect is used by various things in UT; but it is still worth mentioning that NOWS THE CHANCE TO BE A and BIG SHOT both use bits of Ghost Fight/Dummy! in them.
I thought he was gonna say "You're just lucky this isn't online or you'd be cancelled." Spamton Neo & the parts involving him have a lot of references to Flowey. The "wires" that look like green vines, the basement music that sounds like Your Best Nightmare, the way the neo body on the wall resembles Photoshop Flowey, the part where he taunts Kris while they call for help & the narration says "but nobody came." His desire to take Kris' soul to become more powerful is also similar to Flowey. Other characters have tried to take human souls but never for that reason. There's also a machine in the basement that in certain circumstances, does a smile very similar to the one Flowey did when revealing his Photoshop form.
If you wait in the basement near the electrical sockets, after a bit, the dark parts will shift upwards and a smile will form on them. More basis that you have a friend with you in the basement! :)
The thing where Queen is sad that no one is there in Castle Town also happens when you run a… let’s say “aggressive route”. A route where you never spare anyone, but don’t meet the requirements for the Snowgrave route
In rouxls’s theme, there is a part where it goes « hey » and during the fight with against rouxls kaard, right when there’s an « hey » in the music, you can see him saying « hey » If you wait long enough in front of those wire things in the basement, it will start to turn into a smile after a while
When I first played I accidently got the spamton face in the dark because I was confused and was running around lol, when I saw it I noped out of the basement as fast as possible
At the end of the game, when kris is using their knife to open up a dark portal in their home, the TV static resembles a smile similar to that of the “smiling man” and Spamton and gaster
There's something I noticed and haven't seen a single person talk about it at all I don't know if it is that obvious, or if nobody actually noticed On the Music Fight, I noticed that all of their attacks are based on the Music, if you look closely, you can notice that all of their attacks are synced with the song And that's probably why sometimes takes forever to end their turn
@@Real_Igor044 Actually, Toby didn't remove the bog shot spamming. Instead, he actually added a special way to balance it. Here, take a look: ua-cam.com/video/IU3U0yrO4hA/v-deo.html
There is a secret dialogue if you keep interacting with the golden statue at this room (0:13) The dialogue is just Noelle saying to you stop staring at the statue
That basement smile looks a lot like the smile you see at Toriel’s house at the very end of the chapter. Also the Queen had the same attitude when I fought everyone off on the normal route too. Only Rouxl (and maybe one or two others) appear alongside the resistance in the final boss fight.
i saw the face in the basement on my first playthrough on launch night at 3am, and none of the vids i’d seen for the next few days after seeing it showed it so i genuinely thought i had just hallucinated something for a while until i saw it on someone else’s stream for a few frames
Also about shovels, many missed that it was a reference to DDOS attack (dozens and dozens of shovels) Also i noticed, that there is a chance of hearing sans talking sound instead of the letter on letter typing machine
I found something on another playthrough. Have you wondered where Queen's mixtape went when she gave it to you and why it disappeared even though it was a key item. Lancer ate it and when you talk to him and select him he makes a brief section of Queen's Mixtape.
Here is another fact, Asgore was in the police force as police chief, but he was removed And Kris knows something about the red door in the south of town This things set my head gears into overdrive, to this theory Toriel separates from Asgore in both worlds, but I dont think its that simple, what ticks Toriel off the most is things related to children and something caused Asgore to be removed from the force and also something happened to Kris related to that red door that is apparently "terrifying", what if all of them are related? For some reason Kris was down there, Asgore went there to help him but for some reason this also caused Asgore to lose his position as police chief and Toriel blames Asgore for whatever happened Also, 7 chapter, 7 Souls, 7 secret bosses and thanks to Spamtom NEO we saw the fist chage of SOUL form
The fact that there is a reference to Dess (Noelle's sister) going to the bunker with Kris, Noelle, and Asriel - and "December" being a word that triggers Noelle's trauma and her looking for "December Holiday" on a search engine. Maybe Dess went missing (into the bunker?), and Asgore (as the police chief) failed to find her and got fired. (Especially if the theory of Noelle's mom being the mayor is true - failing to find the Mayor's missing kid WILL probably get you fired.) So Toriel divorced him.
@@franksonatra good one, hadn't even cross my mind Only thing that crossed me is Susie and Dess might have been friends and whatever the events may have been, its part of what initially soured Susie
I feel like almost everyone should've noticed the first one, since that one doesn't require any special action nor a very brief instant (like Rouxls falling out of your pocket), it just requires a pretty basic visual memory. All the rest were great! I knew most of them from other videos or my own playthrough but some were totally new to me!
If you get hit by Toby for the first time, and refrain from interacting with the moss… …You can backtrack to the same room once you have Susie and Ralsei, and interacting with the moss will allow you to share the moss with Susie!
I think the fastest way to deal with the dancing fight is to dance with kris every turn and have Ralsei and Susie attack every turn to skip all the enemy attacks. Healing kris and taking on multiple attacks simply takes to long.
@@ofthefog3208 I haven’t timed how long each attack pattern takes (especially with grazing) but I think 4 turns with enemy attacks on two of them would be slower than 6 turns where the enemy never attacks. However the attack actions and them healing loses some of the time so I’m not sure. Also do the enemies consistently target kris? If not then it’s not a consistent strategy and if they target everyone then Ralsei will go down first which is problematic.
Yeah When I first saw that light jump off kris when I started I was like “yo wtf was that” Then when I first read lancer’s dialogue I realized rouxls was still an asshole
If you return to the rooms with Susie and Ralsei, there's two Swatchlings with dialogue, and Susie will have dialogue if you look in the room labeled for Asriel.
Another detail in the mansion basement: there are those two little plug things that pop out of the walls to attack you, yeah? I saw a video where someone waited for a while at the left-most edge of the room with those plugs and used their Cell Phone. Nothing about the call changed, but soon after, a creepy smiley face appeared on the left-most plug. Freaky.
hey so something about the snowgrave route id like to point out you can still recruit people in it just not all of them if you do recruit all the people you can in snowgrave queen has even more unique dialogue when you go back to your town
Birdly doesn't like the blue bird because of that whole "i was a forgettable little blue bird part", after which he called Kris "a fellow blue bird", so i assume that it's not about him being a humanoid bird that is blue
Another Secret u missed is that if u do a Neutral/Aborted Snowgrave Route Queen will say on Castle Town: "Wait, Where's Nubert?" Then Trashy comes and say: "He didn't wanna came up unless everyone else come too" and that's it or something like that was but i don't remember it very well.
The Queen thing got me wondering what happens if you only recruit some enemies but not all. Not necessarily in a snowgrave run specifically, just at all.
that's what happened with me b/c i was avoiding encounters and its just the dialogue about how nubert wouldn't come unless everyone else did. all the recruited ppl comment that they wish everyone could've come with them
1:36 wasn't that the same smile we saw at the end of chapter 2 after when Kris was doing weird stuff? The smiling dude could also be the " Mike " guy spamton talks about.
2:04 ok if that man in the car is the same man behind the tree then I now 100% believe it to be everyman, cuz there is no way gaster is just a casual guy in a car in the overworld, but that fits perfectly with everyman. Or so weird thing where only Kris can see gaster cuz they have the egg? idk.
the problem with that type of game is that i wanna know every little detail hidden and i feel frustrated when i see that i missed something and idk where lmao
Noelle's disguise: Knew it! Birdly Bird light: Knew it! (And it would make more sense if you could only tuant in smash online, not the other way round) Rouxls falls out of your pocket: Knew it! Music fight skip: Aw man, I'm gonna have to back off! Spamton recording in snowgrave?: Aw man, I'm gonna have to back off! Smiling figure in basement: Aw man, I'm gonna have to back off! Things about the smiling man: Well I didn't know the one above so bruh-up! Losing or drawing the arcade game: Knew it! Queen's reaction when you don't recruit: Knew it! Shovel Room: Knew it!
bout queen after snowgrave route. Actually if u recrut some ppl she will say something like " Kris i know u did ur best" or smthn like this. (You can recruit Tasque Manager , Mousewheel, Werewerewire). So this isnt about snowgrave, its about how much u recruit
![What if Toriel Intimidates Everyone? [ Undertale ]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/3BI3iJFR2pA/mqdefault.jpg)
Trash Can: "DON'T WORRY! I AM HERE! ME AND ONLY ME!"
Queen:".... "This is truly the worst timeline...."
If you do a neutral route where you recruit some but not all, she'll ask where nubert is, trashy tells her nubert wont leave if not everyone left too
@@michaellatner975 i actually spared tasque and tasque manager because it was harder to kill them
@@michaellatner975 Funny enough spared everyone but decided to attack the king so i got like everyone recruited by the end of chapter 1. Also in chapter 2 you don't really need to meet all characters. For example you can still have the same result without fighting starwalker.
his name is Trashy ffs
"It's hard to explain why you feel this way about a trash can."
Toby's schedule:
Year 1 - actually make the game
Year 2 and 3 - hide easter eggs like an unhinged maniac
Can confirm my uncle works at toby
@@bonkibonk2568 toby is best place to work
Year 1/2 - Make hidden meanings in the secret bosses dialogue.
But then the fandom found every single hidden shit in the game after 3 days
i tried to apply for toby but the paper got eaten by a dog.
If you open your inventory to key items right after you enter cyber world, lancer will mention roulex or whatever he's called jumping out of your pocket.
Yes i noticed that when first i play deltarune chapter 2, i'm surprised there's only lancer that stay up in cyber world, and roulxs is eventually dissapeared without any scene
He also dialogue (in the form of item flavor text) for certain events
Ye he talks about milk at some point
Roulex I Mean Rouxls
I am calling him roulex from now on lol
my favourite watch brand. Roulex.
Toby spent like 3 years in the chapter and the players discovers everything in like 1 week. Truly a determined community.
The power of a fandom
I mean, we are a super big fandom. Plus I feel like people reading into the game's code has a lot to do with it, too lol
There isn't a huge amount of things to find, I could probably count them in sixty hands
wait
what makes you think we've discovered everything?
"it fills you with a certain power..."
‘Everyone forgot about him let’s me real’
then there’s me over here who opened my inventory the moment i entered the new dark world to see if my card buddies were okay, and promptly freaked out that one was missing and spent the whole chapter looking for him until he turned up
Same, I freaked out not seeing Rouxls and kept worrying untill I reached the shop guy in the mansion
I immediately looked and was like, oh, guess I'll find him later lmao
Then theres me, who completely forgot about Rouxls and Lancer and only thought to check for them when Lancer was needed to get out of the cage, lmao.
The Duality of Man.
Somehow, even though I looked in my key items in the middle of the game, I didn't notice he was gone. Man am I dumb
When I did my snowgrave route, I for some reason decided to recruit and spare anyone while with Susie and Ralsei, but froze everyone with Noelle. As a result I still got the snowgrave route, but instead of the queen being disappointed that everyone is missing besides the trash can, she instead exclaims "Where's Nubert?!" and explains how he will not show up unless everyone is there. Just decided to mention this in case someone didnt know
Yup! Can confirm this.
Also, just felt wrong attacking them with the gang around lol.
Yeah she says that whenever you don’t recruit everyone
This is the dialogue for not recruiting everyone if you recruit at least one. The reason you got it for a Snowgrave route is likely because you recruited Hacker/Checkmarks guy. Everyone you recruit except for him will become lost as a result from killing them on the Snowgrave route.
@@stinky2367 No. You can recruit Hacker by giving them all the checkmarks and still get the scene showed, but you have to keep attacking/losing recruits when not on the freezing phase of the Snowgrave route. Hacker is an NPC, so they don't count towards recruit-ables and does still make a breif appearance early during the Snowgrave path... But disappear when enemies start freezing.
I was also thorough in my chapter 1 playthrough to "not recruit" anyone possible, but chapter 2 auto-recruits 1 of each type of enemy into the city to explain how recruits work... So all I got out of it was the Jevil knife and Shadow Crystal added into the Snowgrave completed file.
@@stinky2367 No, there's enemies present only in the palace that you can recruit. Yes, most of the enemies in chapter 2 are LOST during snowgrave, but there's still enough unique enemies to get the neutral queen interaction.
If the Egg man actually ends up being Gaster it'd be funny to imagine him just waving happily at Kris through the car
The dude making all the characters self-aware is actually a completely different entity and gaster in this universe is just some weird void dude that really likes eggs
I just realized
He's literally the Eggman
Spamton is going insane and Gaster is just like "Can I offer you an egg in this trying time?"
@@exzyyd392
Thats why he went insane
@@bloomingdaemon I'VE COME TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT
Another thing about the shovel room, if you interact with the computer before leaving the room and letting the room fill with shovels, it'll make a joke about it being called the "Dozens and Dozens of Shovels attack", which is an analogy to DDoS attacks (Distributed Denial of Service if you're wondering), and if you know anything about this kind of stuff, it isn't actually a bad analogy.
I think it’s acronym not analogy? I mean analogy works in the sentence now that I think about it but still -
@@DvH_2 they mean analogy for the shovels crashing the pc being similar to a DDoS attack
Thank you, I was just about to mention this! It's a small joke, but I liked it a lot.
Now thats a clever one
@@emberfey Yeah that's what I meant. Words are hard.
"youre lucky this isn't online, or you wouldn't be able to taunt" nice Smash reference
@AssLover The joke is that taunts are disabled when playing online with randoms in Smash Bros. Ultimate.
All of a sudden Kris does Dedede's chad crouch just to spite berdly
fool falco main fool doesn't know I can inhale anyone, and then get their ability. Then I can do any taunt I want whenever I have an ability
Hands off.
@@SplashyDash "don't touch my CAHWK"
Toby really thought of EVERYTHING when making Chapter 2. What an amazing game.
For real
@@BravosChannel yes
lmfao what nah
two years well worth the wait much?
Bro why do I see u everywhere
Queen's reaction to returning to the town with nobody else around is enough to make me not do a genocide route, Noelle be damned. One of the only pieces of dialogue in a game that has tugged at my heartstrings, strangely enough.
*Queen is such a loveable character, it made me almost shed a tear. It gets worse when you talk to her in Ralsei's castle.*
to be fair the only time you're required to kill is while you're with noelle, i recruited who i could after finishing off berdly and i thankfully didnt get that heartbreaking line from Queen
@@FederalBulgeInvestigator even when you recruit most people (but not all), her disappointment over Nubert’s absence makes me oddly sad ):
It kinda gives the feeling that Queen is supposed to reference two major mother figures in Deltarune.
The First is Toriel, mother of Kris and Asriel, and the Second is Noelle's own mother.
It seems to be more on Noelle's mother, as Queen is more interested in Noelle, and while she wants to make Noelle her "Peon", it's because she wants Noelle to be Strong and Independant...
...And When she finds out what happens when too many dark fountains are open, she's genuinely shocked and horrified.
Also, if you look carefully at Queen's Mecha form, it looks like she has reindeer horns of somekind.
It feels a lot like Queen is based off both the Server Computer from the Lab, and Noelle's mother... Which can possibly lead to a future proper meeting with Noelle's mother.
...I would laugh if it turns out that outside of Work and Stress (Due to the loss of Dessy, her duty as Mayor and her Husband in hospital), she's just as much of a Hammy Goofball as Queen is.
it gets a little hard for me when you're forced to hurt other characters like with noelle.. I still did it, but I can tell you that if chapter 3 has you trying to kill any of the main cast that I'll flat out refuse to continue lol
if you inspect all the beds in the heart room in ch. 1 you get the role 'bed inspector,' and if you have that role in chapter 2 you get new text in the castle town. new hathy dialogue saying that you have to keep inspecting beds or you'll lose your title, and new text when interacting with your bed in your room, "* It's a bed that's been carefully crafted. * It's suitable for a bed inspector." (I can't be bothered to start a new ch 2 file to find the specific quote from hathy, that text changes when you've finished the chapter. The bed text stays the same though.)
also you probably heard this already but if you tell noelle that susie eats chalk at the end of chapter 1 she'll give susie a lunchbox full of chalk when inviting her and kris to the library. In the dark world it turns into 'Light Candy' that heals (iirc) 120 HP
ok edit: apparently you don't have to say that susie eats chalk, you just have to talk to noelle while she's at the gate in town.
ALSO the hathy text is "* (Seems Hathy likes this place.) * (She hopes you'll find enough beds to inspect.) * (You'll lose your bed inspector title if you don't inspect enough beds.)"
I told noelle that susie was nice and she still gave her the chalk :-)
Wait... that aint light candy...
So does that make dark candies black crayons?
@@Maannnn... Tori was right about susie having bad influence on kris
Fun fact: Light Candy is the best healing item for the alternate route final boss.
The queen one is rather sad.
@Giga chad OMG STOP WITH THAT VIDEO
You forgot something about Rouxls, if you check on Lancer right after landing, Lancer will tell you that Rouxls jumped out of your Pocket.
cool profile picture... hehe
ua-cam.com/video/R7ZaxVjAO-k/v-deo.html .
@@JanTft You dirty minded... Oh wait I figured it out too...
A man of culture indeed(◠‿◕)
@@JanTft N o
Theres a door near the Annoying Dog easter egg that, when interacted with, says "You found the only knockable door"
Ironically, this was the first door I even tried to interact with, so that was very lucky of me
Me too! I remember trying to interact with a couple doors at the beginning of that section but none of them worked, and for some reason I clicked on that one because I saw the Toby dog signs and saw that text! My proudest moment. :,)
i found it trying to do the snowgrave route
reminds me of how i found the annoying dog easter egg on complete accident when i first played deltarune
i was wondering why the gameover felt both wrong and familiar
There is one minor character detail that nobody seems to point out: When Noelle joins Ralsei and Susie, and is behind Susie, she has a slightly different facial expression, complete with blushing and looking a bit more downwards. If the start of the post-game or that conversation about Susie having a tail didn't clue you in, it seems like Noelle is checking Susie out. It's not important. It's just a cute little detail.
I noticed that noelle wants susie's tail.....WATCH OUT SUSIE!!!
I swear, if Noelle and Susie don't get together by the end of the final chapter, I will personally [HYPERLINK BLOCKED] Toby into oblivion. They are so cute together!
Yes i noticed that! I was like "stop looking at sussies butt, wild lesbian!"
because its not important lmao
@@pryt0n180 Not important to everyone, but important to those with taste
“Rouxls came on our adventure, though no one wanted that”
Me who’s fav character is rouxls: *depression*
samee
Rouxls sends me i hope his god dammit becomes a running gag
@@Weeaboogod_ it's already kind of a running gag tho
@@BetterCallBigShotAutos i hope it continues then.
@@Weeaboogod_ I hope he gets a new accent every chapter until he's intelligible on chapter 7
Seeing Queen get sad really hits hard, speaks to how good of a character she is
Regarding the egg rooms: I find it very, very interesting that in Chapter 1, it was called "an Egg," and in Chapter 2, you receive "the Egg." This, of course, heavily implies that the egg in Chapter 2 is the same egg as in Chapter 1. It sorta reinforces the implication of quantum mechanics that way.
It's just as weird that it says "There was not a man here" instead of "There is not [...]"
Can't you have 2 eggs if you keep the first one?
@@codebracker I believe so. Iirc in chapter one you can put the first egg in asgore's fridge and in chapter two you can put the second egg on top of the pile of eggs in San's shop
@@shadowstrike07 the egg just teleports to asgore's fridge if you don't leave it by yourself probably, since if you drop it or don't have it, the egg will be there anyway in ch.1 .
Regardless of what you do with the eggs, the game does keep track of how many eggs you found. You can check in your classroom with Temmie after returning from cyber world in chapter 2.
Kris dying in Dj fight is already implemented as a speedrun strat. It’s optimized by purposely damaging the team in the dodging section before the fight to make kris die with one hit. With the addition of a glitch called a wrong warp, another dodging section in another roomed is used instead to damage kris and the glitch allows faster travel between rooms specifically skipping the dj dodging section instead.
damn people are already completing speedruns on this game?
Didn't vinesauce joel figure that one out?
@@ouroboros9291 Well he did it on accident and then chat told him what he'd done
@@SwizzleDrizzldeltarune is the only game where killing yourself is a Speedrun strat
@MyUsernameIsGoofy
Actually there's also Outer Wilds and Tunic, and those are just the ones i know of.
I think the “Spamton recording” Easter egg could also be a reference to Mettaton’s fight in Undertale, since he had that one move where he would do 🔴REC and then reverse the entire thing with the REPLAY. it could just be a neat aspect of Spamton’s own Snowgrave fight, but I figured that I’d point it out since he’s using the Neo suit like Mettaton was!
@@otame4858ur point is
what the hell is the neo suit then, that it crosses dark worlds like that?
Creepy difference between the Normal route and the Snowgrave route: During the Berdly fight, if Kris is downed then Berdly will tell Noelle to stop fighting since Kris is unable to keep fighting. But in reply, Noelle states the she can still hear the voices (player’s voice) telling her what to do.
This is in the normal route or snowgrave? Sorry, i didn't understand which one
@@user-kp4xs3pz3o This is for the Snowgrave Route. (In case you didn't know, that route involves Kris manipulating Noelle and controlling her into freezing as many enemies as possible.)
@@googlymoogleson1418 Oh yeah i know about the snowgrave route, it's just that i didn't understand of which route he was talking about, if it was the normal or snowgrave, but makes sense that it is the snowgrave route. Thanks
@@googlymoogleson1418 Remember, not Kris. You.
Love how "voices" implies Noelle is hearing EVERY player who has gone through the Weird Route, not just you in particular
You missed a few things lmao, don’t feel bad though.
-Rouxls says “hey!” Along with his battle theme.
-you can actually carry the pot to the other finish line in the mansion, but Susie will knock it off you anyway and run from you. She will also continue to smash any pottery she can.
-characters say different things if you give them items or equipment in the menu.
-Berdly is the only one who opens your gift.
-Berdly will fry his arm if he pries the wire off him after you attack Queen or fight him earlier.
-Lancer will provide commentary as you progress (inside your key items)
-Star walker will come with you if you interact with him in chapter 1.
-it doesn’t matter if you pass the “appointment” with Tasque Manager, you have to fight her anyway.
-there’s a Swatchling that will show you the photo of you and Ralsei in the boat on the acid river if you return to it after regrouping with Susie.
-Onion will not show up if you did not interact with him in chapter 1.
-there’s a special interaction at the bunker south of town at the end of chapter 2.
-if you talk to Noelle at the end of chapter 1, she will give Susie a lunch box full of chalk at the beginning of chapter 2.
-Pushing Lancer back to the tables after he turns to stone will cause something special.
You should probably mention if you answer all of Tasque Manager's questions correctly then she can be instantly spared, and the other Tasque's get spared alongside her.
Lmao I thought I was the only one who found out about the Lancer statue thing
Also, if you talk to chaos king with queen, there will be a hilarious interaction between the two
And if you do it post-snowgrave, he mentions you having left the darkeners instead. Real dark stuff, I tell ya
y-.. you said a few.
I’m so glad this isn’t one of those things that gives facts EVERYBODY knows like “it was Kris who slashed the tires and was prowling around” or some garbage like that. Good stuff here
@Magolor well kris left the house with a knife in their hand so it seems pretty obvious.
Queen is a lot less dissapointed in snow grave if you recruit the three or so you can post snow grave just like if you mess up the normal route.
Another thing, when Lancer turns into a statue you can push him left and right, if you keep pushing him left he will get a seat and a bowl of spaghetti will fall from the sky making the funny cartoon splotch sound
Here’s one more interesting fun fact
When you are riding the queen car, if you manage to NOT hit any car, a small car will be recruit to your castle
Correction: someone in the comment says that as long as you don’t hit the small car, it will still be recruit to your town, but for precaution you can avoid all of them if you want
Haha Okay But Actually Hit All The Cars
And it's got a cute squeak
You can hit the cars? I thought hitting a car would be game over
Kris, get the Banana
@@tinapi2026 Potassium.
Ok this might sound Crazy but would the Smiling Figure in the Basement be Mike over looking the Entire ordeal Spamton made a Comment on him being a Criminal that should never be trusted and if you seen the Ending the Smile also matches the Smiling Figure I think we got a potential sneak peak on chapter 3's Antagonist
I think so too! Although I guess we can't really be sure, Toby seems to love to do the complete opposite of what we think is going to happen lol
"Mike" is actually just a reference to a commercial in 1997 about a soda called "BIG SHOT", which is basically Spamton's whole gimmick. Mike Ditka is a retired football player, coach, and TV commentator (from what a quick google search tells me) that sponsored the soda in a commercial, lmao!! Unfortunately, "Mike" doesn't typically seem to be a lore character, and instead just another one of Toby's wacky references :)
@@slinkymalinky9939 even so it's Toby we talking about here what if he wants us to think that and then The Reference becomes Real and Mike really is the Antagonist of chapter 3 if i know of anything References can be good for 3 things to be Nostalgic Funny and as a Possible Scapegoat
We just don't know what goes on in his head when developing a game such as this
@@slinkymalinky9939 but... the next chapter focuses on television....
this only adds another link
@@DeadlyBlaze I don't think ot focuses only on the television
It would be kris's house. And the television will be an area
We will START in the dark world
1:37 I'd like to point out that there's another smiling face in the basement! Right on the room before this one, if you're looking at that last outlet/plug thingy and use your phone, it turns into a smiley face.
You don't need to use your phone, just stand still and it will appear
@@mikejuarez2383 the phone call wastes the time that you need to get the smiley face
If you want the smiley face to appear faster
Use the phone
i just did with a save i had and thats so cute!!!
I feel like I was one of the only people who immediately checked my key items when entering the new dark world. Lancer says that Roulxs left your pocket.
You were not the only one fam
There’s special dialogue with the jail dogs if you talk to them before telling Undyne about the dark world. It’s super cool and talks about them “being attacked from the shadows by something MERCILESS!” And running into jail fearing for their lives ._.
If this and the other handful of secrets have been found already, imagine what will happen when Toby releases chapters 3-5 together-
gonna be a fun month when that happens
were you interrupted or something
@@laggianput Hopefully not. Undertale destroyed the internet for months, and I'd rather not have a repeat of that.
There are going to be so many more spoilers to avoid
@@percher4824 i hate it when people discuss about the fandom or internet reaction instead of the show/game itself, just enjoy the goddamn piece of media
If you have a full inventory when spamton is defeated he has a funny dialogue.
half price salamie intenfies
0:41 no i noticed almost immediately after i opened key items for the first time because i knew that bastard would fuck things up i just didnt expect him to bring the duck with him
0:07 So THAT'S why Queen said "Cool face"
1:31 I remember been so mad about the fact that I called out the eyes being Spamton's colors in a stream and they made fun of me, this video showing that I was right made me a bit happier about it :)
Zoomed in Noelle tripping over made me laugh out loud so hard I had to pause the video. Thank you kind sir for this top tier humour.
I swear someone has to make that a GIF.
I learned that depending on if you ate the moss in Ch.1 during the Dungeon section, Ralsei will have prepared some moss in the corner of your room in his castle. If you didn't or are using a no-save run the moss is absent.
The amount of Smash references here just remembers me of Toby LITERALLY GOING TO SAKURAI'S HOUSE, DESTROYING HIM ON HIS OWN GAME AND BECAUSE OF THIS GETTING SANS ADDED AS A MII GUNNER PREMIUM SKIN.
toby is a madman.
"You're just lucky this isn't online , or you wouldn't be able to taunt"
Huh , another Smash reference ... neat.
If you don't recruit the Cyberworld* characters King also says "You left them behind" if you talk to him at the cage. There's no dialogue between him and Queen at all as well.
*Actually Chapter 1 characters. Unsure if not recruiting Chapter 2 characters does this as well, but I would assume so.
Strange, I didn't cause anyone to run away in the Cyberworld, check my recruits, and saw that I have recruited everyone so I don't know why King said that “You left them behind” even though in spared everyone.
@@dragonking1166 Strange. And Queen didn't come to talk to him either? Maybe something else triggers it that I'm not aware of.
@@dragonking1166 You likely didn't recruit the Checkmarks/Hacker guy. You need to collect all three blue Checkmarks and return to him to recruit him in your town.
@@stinky2367 I don't think so, I didn't recruit him and I got the dialogue from the queen
@@stinky2367 I already recruited him so I know it's not him.
When fighting the dolphin ad enemies (sorry idk their names) and they use the ad attack (the one that hides their other attacks) you can actually move your mouse in the game which usually isnt possible
I’m pretty sure they are called pop ups? Not sure though lol
also if you use the click act on them twice they crash and you instantly spare them all
@@bodacious12 true
They're called Poppups
A little thing I found today is that if you interact with ralsei’s dummy before you bring everything from the unused classroom to the dark world, you have the option to hug it given that nobody is watching, if you do then ralsei and susie will have new dialogues regarding the hug.
One fun detail I found, if you interact with Asriel's room Kris closes their eyes and refuses to see it, and if you come back after getting Susie and Ralsei back, Susie will say something along the lines of "Is this your brother's? He better hope we don't meet".
Actually... if you interact with the Purple dragon drawing book at the start, before school, it implies Asriel is the one who actually took it out of the library.
Woah, wait - that should make me wonder in hindsight:
How did asriel got a room on his own over there? Has he met the Queen or something else happened?
@@GGorsty It's based on internet searches so everyone in town would have one
I'm sure other people also did this but if you just keep clicking on the Berdley statue Noelle gets increasingly disturbed until eventually she's like "yeah great statue can we go now??"
Also if you got the "Bed Inspector" status in Ch 1 you get a little dialogue in the room Ralsei made for you about how the bed is fit for a bed inspector.
Goodness.
The thing with queen when you don't recruit anyone is...sad.
Though it does show also that she does think of Noelle too.
0:40 actually since he's my favourite character I was DEVASTATED when I opened my inventory in the new dark world and he wasn't there. I was thinking abt him th whole time, and I eventually thought that Toby had just forgotten him BUT THEN!! I talked to that butler in the cafe and my hopes were up again :')
artest thou one of his admirers, worm?
This was a disgrace. The fight was cool, but I wanted Rouxls to provide commentary on the whole game instead of just Lancer.
@@spacenaves what the hell would you expect rouxls know, except maybe rules to draw and stud poker.
1:36 gave me literal chills. I remember encountering that with my bf on my 3rd play through. I saw it but he didn’t, I thought I was going insane. 😭😭😭
The alternate Queen text can occur even when not doing Snowgrave. Saw it at the end of my neutral run since I didn't bother recruiting anyone.
I’m really excited to see what the full game looks like, and I can’t wait to see how complicated it gets
I get the feeling 3 to 7 are going to get extremely dark, cause after snowgrave and spamton I feel really uncomfortable.
@@jacobsnyder7771 tbf basically all that stuff is avoidable and won’t even be found by the average player without outside help
@@jacobsnyder7771 does genocide run
"what a dark game"
In the traffic jam bit, the "music" (car sounds) play motifs of flowey's theme, undyne's theme, and metal crusher. Maybe more I forgot
As someone who actually was sad to see Rouxls not being in my inventory throughout the game and wandering where he could have gone to before encountering him at the boat ride, I'm glad you pointed it out at 0:34 lol, I never even noticed that the first time I played through. That said, I still wished he had stayed :( I thought the little interactions we had with Lancer were cute and I would have liked to see that with Rouxls as well (although at the same time I can't complain because I enjoyed building houses with him lol)
Another small egg: When Lancer turns to stone in the mansion you can push him. You of course can't really push him the whole journey with you because he gets stopped by the chairs, but when you push him towards the dining area he gets a bib and pasta at the table (going back later, the pasta is gone)
Also, when you after fight spamton neo (on pacifist not that damn genocide), spamton will give you a "Dealmaker" and "ShadowCrystal", but if you fulling your inventory with an item, a dialogue shows up that spamton is raged (idk the dialogue, but you can search for that) and only leaving a star walking into past darkness (i think that the star is spamton that have been defeated by kris and his friends, and usually turned into an item, walking out past the darkness)
Kris? Kris!!?? KRIS!??!?! DID YOU REALLY FILLED YOUR [Inventorium] WITH [Half-priced Salami]!!?? JUST TO KEEP ME OUT!? YOU HAVE LIKE 48 INVENTORY SLOTS
@@black_m1n825 wha the [fifty-percent deal] comment when it happens kills me off so badly!!! x'D Toby you madlad
@BLU Engi and mad dummy also said the same word 3 times in a row, getting louder each time.
@BLU Engi The sound effect is used by various things in UT; but it is still worth mentioning that NOWS THE CHANCE TO BE A and BIG SHOT both use bits of Ghost Fight/Dummy! in them.
@@trajankhan and his theme, Big Shot, idea mad dummy theme a little bit. what's the connection?
I thought he was gonna say "You're just lucky this isn't online or you'd be cancelled."
Spamton Neo & the parts involving him have a lot of references to Flowey. The "wires" that look like green vines, the basement music that sounds like Your Best Nightmare, the way the neo body on the wall resembles Photoshop Flowey, the part where he taunts Kris while they call for help & the narration says "but nobody came."
His desire to take Kris' soul to become more powerful is also similar to Flowey. Other characters have tried to take human souls but never for that reason. There's also a machine in the basement that in certain circumstances, does a smile very similar to the one Flowey did when revealing his Photoshop form.
the "nobody came" was an earthbound reference I thought
You forgot the awesome king-queen and lancer-queen interactions! That's the best reward for recruiting everybody!
If you wait in the basement near the electrical sockets, after a bit, the dark parts will shift upwards and a smile will form on them. More basis that you have a friend with you in the basement! :)
Oh yes, Ralsei, Kris' unique talent: independence.
More like command others
Yeah, Kris' unique trait is command (and lack of opinions). Independence is more of Lancer and Susie's thing.
I discovered that Berdly dialogue on my own. but I'm glad someone finally posts about it, since I can't :P
The thing where Queen is sad that no one is there in Castle Town also happens when you run a… let’s say “aggressive route”. A route where you never spare anyone, but don’t meet the requirements for the Snowgrave route
In rouxls’s theme, there is a part where it goes « hey » and during the fight with against rouxls kaard, right when there’s an « hey » in the music, you can see him saying « hey »
If you wait long enough in front of those wire things in the basement, it will start to turn into a smile after a while
The smiling face in the basement looks a lot like the grin on the TV set at the end when Kris opens the fountain :0
When I first played I accidently got the spamton face in the dark because I was confused and was running around lol, when I saw it I noped out of the basement as fast as possible
that thing that disappears has the same smile as the tv at the end of ch2. maybe it hitched a ride out
When lancer turns to stone you can actually push him to the table, when you do a plate of food and a napkin will fall down.
the smile is the same as the one in the tv, and knowing toby that's not a coincidence or him being lazy...
At the end of the game, when kris is using their knife to open up a dark portal in their home, the TV static resembles a smile similar to that of the “smiling man” and Spamton and gaster
There's something I noticed and haven't seen a single person talk about it at all
I don't know if it is that obvious, or if nobody actually noticed
On the Music Fight, I noticed that all of their attacks are based on the Music, if you look closely, you can notice that all of their attacks are synced with the song
And that's probably why sometimes takes forever to end their turn
Turns out it was a bug that recently was patched.
@@FlyingAce369 That was patched? What about Spamtom NEO Spam? Was that also patched? (I didn't try that out yet, I didn't even battle him yet)
@@Real_Igor044 Actually, Toby didn't remove the bog shot spamming. Instead, he actually added a special way to balance it. Here, take a look: ua-cam.com/video/IU3U0yrO4hA/v-deo.html
@@Real_Igor044 its a feature now
There is a secret dialogue if you keep interacting with the golden statue at this room (0:13)
The dialogue is just Noelle saying to you stop staring at the statue
After the snow grave route when exiting the hospital and noelles dialogue box appears you can actually walk and itll make noelle notice you sooner
0:56 honestly I just sucked ass at this fight and thought that’s how you were suppose to learn the Ralsei and Suzi acts lmao
That basement smile looks a lot like the smile you see at Toriel’s house at the very end of the chapter.
Also the Queen had the same attitude when I fought everyone off on the normal route too. Only Rouxl (and maybe one or two others) appear alongside the resistance in the final boss fight.
0:51 i legit thought this was how the fight was intended
i saw the face in the basement on my first playthrough on launch night at 3am, and none of the vids i’d seen for the next few days after seeing it showed it so i genuinely thought i had just hallucinated something for a while until i saw it on someone else’s stream for a few frames
Fun fact: It’s probably obvious but the robot face is Twitch Chat.
Bonus fact: If you beat Queen by fighting her battery acid goblet gets emptied and she asks "Hey Chat Does Anyone Know What Happened To That Stuff?".
Also about shovels, many missed that it was a reference to DDOS attack (dozens and dozens of shovels)
Also i noticed, that there is a chance of hearing sans talking sound instead of the letter on letter typing machine
I think that the shovels were a reference to how Lancer's the Jack of SPADES. I just thought that was neat.
Kris went down during the Cap'n Sweet Cakes fight and that happened, but then Kris remained down during the dance break and sorta was dragged along.
I found something on another playthrough. Have you wondered where Queen's mixtape went when she gave it to you and why it disappeared even though it was a key item. Lancer ate it and when you talk to him and select him he makes a brief section of Queen's Mixtape.
Here is another fact, Asgore was in the police force as police chief, but he was removed
And Kris knows something about the red door in the south of town
This things set my head gears into overdrive, to this theory
Toriel separates from Asgore in both worlds, but I dont think its that simple, what ticks Toriel off the most is things related to children and something caused Asgore to be removed from the force and also something happened to Kris related to that red door that is apparently "terrifying", what if all of them are related? For some reason Kris was down there, Asgore went there to help him but for some reason this also caused Asgore to lose his position as police chief and Toriel blames Asgore for whatever happened
Also, 7 chapter, 7 Souls, 7 secret bosses and thanks to Spamtom NEO we saw the fist chage of SOUL form
Also there's 7 chapters, each presumably a day and Asriel comes back from college in a week
@@codebracker though there's 7 chapters on the chapter select, there's actually 10 chapter placeholders. Might not mean anything, but...
The fact that there is a reference to Dess (Noelle's sister) going to the bunker with Kris, Noelle, and Asriel - and "December" being a word that triggers Noelle's trauma and her looking for "December Holiday" on a search engine. Maybe Dess went missing (into the bunker?), and Asgore (as the police chief) failed to find her and got fired. (Especially if the theory of Noelle's mom being the mayor is true - failing to find the Mayor's missing kid WILL probably get you fired.) So Toriel divorced him.
@@franksonatra good one, hadn't even cross my mind
Only thing that crossed me is Susie and Dess might have been friends and whatever the events may have been, its part of what initially soured Susie
Asgore also has 7 flowers in cases
or maybe it was 6
not sure
I feel like almost everyone should've noticed the first one, since that one doesn't require any special action nor a very brief instant (like Rouxls falling out of your pocket), it just requires a pretty basic visual memory.
All the rest were great! I knew most of them from other videos or my own playthrough but some were totally new to me!
you can't recall what you never bothered to remember in the first place eh
If you get hit by Toby for the first time, and refrain from interacting with the moss…
…You can backtrack to the same room once you have Susie and Ralsei, and interacting with the moss will allow you to share the moss with Susie!
I think the fastest way to deal with the dancing fight is to dance with kris every turn and have Ralsei and Susie attack every turn to skip all the enemy attacks. Healing kris and taking on multiple attacks simply takes to long.
@@ofthefog3208 any speedruns this early are going to have questionable routing. Most optimized speedrun routes take months to iron out.
@@ofthefog3208 I haven’t timed how long each attack pattern takes (especially with grazing) but I think 4 turns with enemy attacks on two of them would be slower than 6 turns where the enemy never attacks. However the attack actions and them healing loses some of the time so I’m not sure. Also do the enemies consistently target kris? If not then it’s not a consistent strategy and if they target everyone then Ralsei will go down first which is problematic.
of the Fog ah I see why it saves time because the first time you dance they don’t immediately stop dancing therefore you can win with Kris still down!
@@viviblue7277 Also notably that's while the extended battle bug was still present, making the normal method take significantly longer.
Yeah
When I first saw that light jump off kris when I started I was like “yo wtf was that”
Then when I first read lancer’s dialogue I realized rouxls was still an asshole
If you return to the rooms with Susie and Ralsei, there's two Swatchlings with dialogue, and Susie will have dialogue if you look in the room labeled for Asriel.
Another detail in the mansion basement: there are those two little plug things that pop out of the walls to attack you, yeah? I saw a video where someone waited for a while at the left-most edge of the room with those plugs and used their Cell Phone. Nothing about the call changed, but soon after, a creepy smiley face appeared on the left-most plug. Freaky.
hey so something about the snowgrave route id like to point out
you can still recruit people in it
just not all of them
if you do recruit all the people you can in snowgrave queen has even more unique dialogue when you go back to your town
Birdly doesn't like the blue bird because of that whole "i was a forgettable little blue bird part", after which he called Kris "a fellow blue bird", so i assume that it's not about him being a humanoid bird that is blue
In the city traffic jam, there is one green car that resembles undyne fight in Undertale where she made your soul green
And you can keep appreciating the berdly statue and it freaks out Noelle
Another Secret u missed is that if u do a Neutral/Aborted Snowgrave Route Queen will say on Castle Town: "Wait, Where's Nubert?" Then Trashy comes and say: "He didn't wanna came up unless everyone else come too" and that's it or something like that was but i don't remember it very well.
Creator of this vid: calls Kris he
Ralsei in the dialogue playing also everyone in the entire game: calls Kris they.
I'm pretty sure Susie says he at least once. Also Kris isn't real so does it really matter?
fun fact: the attacks with the sweet capn cakes boss battle sync with the music
The Queen thing got me wondering what happens if you only recruit some enemies but not all. Not necessarily in a snowgrave run specifically, just at all.
that's what happened with me b/c i was avoiding encounters and its just the dialogue about how nubert wouldn't come unless everyone else did. all the recruited ppl comment that they wish everyone could've come with them
Also lancer mentions that rouxls kaard jumped out of your pocket when you first enter cyber world.
1:36 wasn't that the same smile we saw at the end of chapter 2 after when Kris was doing weird stuff?
The smiling dude could also be the " Mike " guy spamton talks about.
2:04 ok if that man in the car is the same man behind the tree then I now 100% believe it to be everyman, cuz there is no way gaster is just a casual guy in a car in the overworld, but that fits perfectly with everyman.
Or so weird thing where only Kris can see gaster cuz they have the egg? idk.
the problem with that type of game is that i wanna know every little detail hidden and i feel frustrated when i see that i missed something and idk where lmao
Noelle's disguise: Knew it!
Birdly Bird light: Knew it! (And it would make more sense if you could only tuant in smash online, not the other way round)
Rouxls falls out of your pocket: Knew it!
Music fight skip: Aw man, I'm gonna have to back off!
Spamton recording in snowgrave?: Aw man, I'm gonna have to back off!
Smiling figure in basement: Aw man, I'm gonna have to back off!
Things about the smiling man: Well I didn't know the one above so bruh-up!
Losing or drawing the arcade game: Knew it!
Queen's reaction when you don't recruit: Knew it!
Shovel Room: Knew it!
bout queen after snowgrave route.
Actually if u recrut some ppl she will say something like " Kris i know u did ur best" or smthn like this.
(You can recruit Tasque Manager , Mousewheel, Werewerewire).
So this isnt about snowgrave, its about how much u recruit