I don’t think Eloise is dead. Victor assumes she is, but he never saw her body. He just said that she ran off to find her mom. There was no reason for the show to have introduced her, as a forgotten surprise, with no clear conclusion, only for her to have an unexplained death. She’s going to pop back up somehow or we’re going to find out more about her!
I mean i guess but that feels like a cop out.. it's been what, like at the VERY LEAST 30 years since he's seen her. If she went through the lighthouse, wouldn't she have found her way back to her husband? And if she was still there, wouldn't she try to find Victor somehow? As a mother it makes less than no sense.
@ You’re mistaken, I’m talking about Victor’s sister Eloise. According to Victor, his mother Miranda is definitely dead, he found her body & I think buried her. But he last saw his sister when she ran off to find their mom. He assumes she’s dead, but he has no idea what actually happened. He has also stated 2x now that “she’s really good at hiding,” I don’t think that’s a coincidence.
I think she’s either there and hiding or made it out through the lighthouse that night. Her mom would’ve put her in the tree first. The only thing is that she wasn’t reunited with her dad so she’s probably still in fromville.
I think Sarah actually killed 4 people, not 2, but i dont think anyone knows about Jade's friend who she stabbed in the neck. but she killed Kenny's dad and the lady who was with him, she killed her brother as well
She killed Toby (Jade’s friend) and her brother. The night creatures killed the nurse and Kenny’s dad. Question: All this took place at the Clinic. I’m trying to remember, where was Christy?
To understand From here is what you do, take a look at some images of the Hero's Journey, then look at the zodiac cross, then look at the Tarot card "Wheel of Fortune" and then take a look at the talismans and it will all become clear. From is retelling the story of the sun, the ecliptic path, the sine wave, and every story that uses the Hero's Journey narrative is the same hidden message. But, this is just the narrative, not the story. The story mixes mythology, science, religion, psychology, consciousness and the human psyche and how we are trapped in cycles of grief and how trauma creates multiple personalities. But, it's the narrative and astrological motifs that interest me the most. What is established now? Tabitha is the Hero and the show started the journey when she arrived. Jim said stop saying she is the chosen saviour responsible for getting everyone home. But, this is what she is. She will be the one to go through a transformation and find the reward to bring everyone home and break the cycle. Boyd was the old hero. He told them to let go and they did it before but they won't do it again because they don't believe in him anymore. Because the Hero's Journey begins at the top of the circle, the summer solstice. Boyd represented Aries, the spring equinox before the summer solstice. That's why he found the lamb to save the town (saved by the lambs blood Aries). If you see the images it's easy to understand. Season three is the winter solstice, that's why Fatima is going to have a baby and there was a death and rebirth, because that is the motif of the death and rebirth of the sun. I even said the baby is likely the Kimono lady's baby and we can't see it because it exists on a different frequency. Then Elgin says its not her baby, do iy has to be the Kimono lady's baby. And on top of that, Elgin literally drags her into a cave, this is literally the step before the great ordeal on the Hero's Journey. The great ordeal/revelations/abyss is the winter solstice. That means season three ends at the middle of the Hero's Journey. Giving us two-three more seasons? The thing inside Fatima never liked Tilly because she had the answers. Tarot Card = astrology = all the answers to the show, Prisca Theologia. We also have expressions of anger with Victor, right as he is breaking through his repressed memories and the trauma that was repressed was the moment when his mother left him. Lacan, Jung Freud, Descartes anyone? Jasper isn't a let down, he represents a mnemonic device. He helped Victor unlock the repressed memories of the boy in white talking to Christopher because he told his mother what he heard and this is when his mother left him. So, he repressed the trauma and was unable to develop like a normal person would. Wether Jasper talked or not, that wasn't what was important. This episode also shows it isn't reincarnation it's a cycle, that's what we get with Victor's dad and Jim talking. If it were reincarnation Jim would be Victor's dad, but they are talking to each other. So Tabitha is not Miranda reincarnated. If anything they have all but confirmed she is Eloise, the way Victor said you were there when I remembered Eloise, you can make Jasper tell me the secrets he told Christopher. Either they are foreshadowing that Tabitha is Eloise, or it's a misdirection. But, I have a feeling Tabitha was there when Victor was a child, if she is his sister or not. The narrative is the sun's ecliptic path. Boyd/lamb/Aries/spring equinox, Tabitha/summer solstice/start of Josepth Campbell's Hero's Journey, Jade/drunk/Moses/the Crater star sign known as a cup, Fatima/Venus/miraculous birth/winter solstice, Randall/the wounded beast/Hydra, Kristi/Bear trap/Ursa Minor and Draco, Victor alone for 40 years/40 years wandering the dessert/just before the red sea splits/passover/spring equinox. All of the major motifs in From are astrological. Prisca theologia is how you understand the narrative. If you want to understand the story, get intimate with David Lynch, Zizek, psychoanalysis in film, and cinema and fantasy. Every character is a personification of different concepts of the subconscious mind, the ego, the Id, the super ego, the shadow self, the lodge/cabin, the mirror stage, the rules, the Oedipus complex etc.. But, the misconception is people saying "it's all a dream and means nothing." Because all that shows they don't understand desire or how fantasy underpins reality. It isn't actually all a dream. What psychologist are talking about is your auto pilot mode, it's more like your day dreaming. We exist in a reality we created from the fantasy of our own mind. This is why we say we create our own reality, or reality is perception, or free will is an illusion. Most people don't realize how much time they spend on auto pilot, in a fantasy state, when decisions are actually made by our subconscious mind, the Freudian slip, the social constructs around us, everything we have experienced, our family, our religion, our beliefs, it's from this place our decisions are already made. From is the special world, the unknown, the subconscious and the underworld the sun travels. But, the key is frequency and letting go. If you're stuck in a cycle of grief, trauma and desire your consciousness is at a low frequency, its like being stuck in a place with monsters. From is that cycle of depression you mind goes through as much as it is about the cycle of the sun.
Most of that good but she is the reincarnation of miranda not eliose idk if eliose dead or whatever but they have thrown clues left and right about the link of Miranda and tabathia being Miranda reincarnated like last episode showing Jim and henery are a lot alike showing tabathias soul has a type and mirror her former life
Salient thoughts…very interesting. I see the dots you’re connecting. Also not sold the show is going there; yet, there’s a part of me that hopes you’re right or that they’ve come up with something equally clever. #MajorGratitude for this breakdown.
In episode 8/9 of season one, Victor placed Julie in a farway tree. I went back and watched that episode, and she appeared to definitely have been taken to the stoned arch, and I believe someone told her to run as well. I believe this is actually when she threw the rope to Boyd, but this memory was taken from her until she re-entered the archway during Sunday’s episode.
The town has like a 50s/60s style to it so I think they did the sacrifice back then and they got eternal life.. just not like how they imagined. I keep trying to make out the name of the town on the school (now the hospital).
There is not a ton of blood loss with delivery. A ton of blood loss would most likely mean there is a serious problem. Either the blood is for her to drink (like she was drinking from Niki’s bullet wound) or for the baby to drink once it’s born. Or Might be to help her get through the delivery. …Smiley had no blood in his body. If she turns, maybe his blood would help prevent that somehow. But I think it’s for the baby.
Nothing to support it, I do not even know where did that theory come from? First of all, she would be close to or over 50 yo now! Like Victor. How did she forget everything that happened in 70s? How come she didn't recognize her own dad in Henry? That would also imply Tabitha was adpoted at some point in time in her teens. No mention of that as well. Also, genetics. We have not seen evidence Eloise is death, but that's about as much as we know for now.
Time travel! Well maybe Julie helps Tabitha time travel to where it all started (before the sacrifice) so she can break the cycle and everything... that would be a nice way to fix all.
What Do Cicadas Eat? During their time underground, cicadas primarily feed on the juices and sap of tree roots. The children poured their hope into the roots. "Your blood is my blood." It looked like cicadas underneath Boyd's skin, passed on by Martin, then to Smiley. Kids vs the monsters.
I think Tabatha is Eloise.. she had the memory of some of the rocks from when she was a kid. I think Victors sister ran away and went through a far away tree and somehow made it out. Since Julie was able to time travel or astral project, who knows 🤷🏽♂️
@@ouroboros313 I honestly don’t understand why people keep forgetting Eloise was only a few years younger than Victor. She can’t be Tabitha and definitely not Sara.
@@CatHarlem I understand that Eloise wasn't that far off as far as age is concerned but Victor is well into his late 40's to early 50's at least. Tabitha is like, late 30's early 40's. The age gap is too wide.
maybe when Tillie said "you have to run" to Fatima she was saying you have to run from Elgin? Also! i was thinking if the crops went rotten right when this 'Phantoma' baby started showing itself its like the land was preparing itself to cater to Fatimas new cravings. Notice how the settlement they found has fresh food with the creepy totems warding off some sort of bad entity. Maybe the bad entity they were warding off was the baby or the kimono lady? and the food is fresh there since nothing evil can enter its boundries? cant help but feel this is all connected.
"If you travel to the past, that past becomes your future, and your former present becomes the past, which now can't be changed by your new future" - Smart Hulk
I dont think there is any time travel here....Julie was not actually there to throw the rope. Julie has access tot he dungeon bcuz she is still possessed by whatever entity it is. Martin is a manifestation of that entity and thats why he knew her name. I think that dungeon is kind of a dimensional crossroads and what Julie is seeing/hearing is like residual dimensional memories.
Time works differently there ao who's to say she wasnt there physically but lets say thats the case, that would mean Boyd wasnt physically there to climb the rope either. I dnt think the entity is Martin, y would it need her to throw a rope down a well, think about it. I think martin seen these events play out more than once while chained and is directing some to do what others couldnt
@@jimmybillz5923 she wasn’t physically there but somehow she was still able to grab that rope. Remember Boyd got that 💩 in his blood at that same place also, from the guy chained to the wall. No one else but her was able to throw the rope down.
what if the kimono lady is julie. Since Julie can travel around and through time as a spirit or whatever and her actions have an effect on the reality that she's in... plus she does have a friendship with Elgin so maybe she enlists his help because they have that relationship
I think the komoto lady is Victors, mom if she got out. And if she got out maybe the sister did as well and maybe the mom seen only the reality of them getting out but had to leave Victor, behind and couldn’t go back to her home and changed her daughter name and maybe Tabatha, is Eloise.
To your theory that Elgin and Fatima are related, maybe Elgin gave her his blood because they ARE related and have the same blood type. Maybe he just didn’t know that when he drew his blood. Maybe it will all work out when his blood is used post-delivery.
Could it be related not sure 1. Origins of the Town and the Curse: The town was founded in 1238, and perhaps during or shortly after that time, a dark ritual or an event involving eight families took place. This event could have been a sacrifice of a child from each family, possibly as part of a pact, ritual, or desperate attempt to secure power or immortality. However, the ritual backfired or invoked a curse, binding each family to the town forever. 2. The Curse Across Generations: The curse means that each family is trapped in the town, unable to truly escape. Over time, the curse might manifest as a cycle in which descendants of each family are forced to relive or confront similar tragic events. Each century or specific period brings about a new "reawakening" or repetition of the curse's effects. 3. Specific Years as Key Moments: Each year (1506, 1609, 1752, etc.) could represent a significant point when the curse "activates" or when a new generation is forced to reenact the sacrifice or confront a traumatic event. For example: 1506: A significant event for one family, perhaps involving a child or member being taken as part of the curse. 1609: Another family faces a similar fate, maybe linked to the curse spreading or intensifying. And so on, with each date representing a new cycle or significant event involving each cursed family. 4. Families Stuck in Different Time Periods: Since each family is connected to a specific time period, the curse might prevent them from fully existing outside of it. They may age or appear to belong to that period, stuck in a "time loop" within the village. So, characters from different families may come from different centuries yet coexist in the village as if time doesn't affect them linearly. 5. Sacrifices and Continuation of the Curse: Each generation could face the same tragic choice-the need to sacrifice one of their own to temporarily keep the curse at bay or to try breaking it, knowing that failure could lead to worse consequences. This might keep the families trapped and passing down the curse from one generation to the next, with no one able to escape. 6. Breaking the Cycle: The main plot could center around a group of characters (possibly the latest generation) who discover the truth behind the dates and the original pact. Their goal might be to uncover what happened in 1238, understand the curse's mechanics, and find a way to break free. Each date might hold clues or pieces of a puzzle they must solve to end the curse once and for all.
Victor never mentions finding his sisters body and in this episode he explains how good she is at hide and seek hmmm wouldn’t be surprised if she pops up later or we hear more about her story
@mopkrayz, I was thinking the same thing. Then the nurse girlfriend arrived and said that the nurse was gone for 2-21/2 years. I said well they aren’t dead.
i had a theory that it was her baby / she is going to be reborn as the baby. she showed up after fatima found out she was pregnant, she appears healthier as fatima eats the rotten food, fatima saw her once she was in the room the baby needs to be in, the kimono lady basically influenced elgin to get fatima in the room, elgin tells fatima that the baby isn’t hers implying it was either the towns or possibly even the kimono ladies. just seems convenient but it could end up in a plot twist.
The big takeaway which had been hinted at. There were people trapped in this realm where conscious perception manifests as reality. Some people thought that by doing a ritual sacrifice of the children they could get back to their reality. They did this in the caves, but the children who are better at using their imagination worked together to change the place, to make ti represent nightmares as revenge against the people who betrayed them and so they could be resuced. The people directly involved became the mosnters who killed the rest. "The boy in white" was one of them who kept bringing them there to save the children who are trapped in some limbo but their own effort to turn the place into a land of nightmares. Like Jacob in lost, they pick people to try and save them and bring them here, just no one has as of yet been sucessful. We see when the boy in white tried explaining ti directly to the puppeteer he didnt beleive them. He didnt betray the town, Victor told what he had heard to his mother who had already figured out a lot about the place, and thought she had to rescue the children in the tower, possibly based off some previous expereince. Based on the cave painting, i think the people who came there with the children came via water, maybe they saw a lighthouse (I think cause and effect gets wonky here, temporal weirdness, even the producers said that) But when the children changed the forest to be a place that was made out of the nightmares of people who would be there, they created a "monster" they couldnt control. And not that monster is trying to break through into the real world. It's the forest itself, and entity that was "made into being" by the children. They made it as their protector, but they gave it a life of its own. My guess is "Anguey" means "Aunt Julie" Maybe Tabitha fails to save them and "Aunt Julie" is the one who will do what Tabitha was suposed to do.
Okay I like this show but it’s not explaining how this started. If you haven’t watched (Tea cup) check it out because it’s good. As I was saying before, how/ who knew the townsmen above the door would work. How did Fatima, get pregnant. The going through the tree, like if your good/ bad. The chained up guy how did he know there names. Why the chained up guy blood is special. And a whole lot of more answers. They haven’t some explaining to do.
Mabe Fatima is giving birth to the one that's saves them all, since Elgin see's the future wouldn't he know if the komoto woman was evil? what no "spidey tingle"?
The more I watch this show, the more I feel like they've all been there before at some point. Time paradoxes are being revealed that deepen the plot. I think Tabitha or Sara might have a HUGE connection to Trevor.
I can understand Tabitha not remembering her childhood dreams, that's actually very normal, but if you wanna tell me that she is Eloise and she does not remember months maybe years spent in a hell.. I am telling you, you are reaching. Tabby's mother being Eloise is also based on basically nothing (definately not genetics), but parents, grandparents are mentioned more and more.
I can’t recall, but did Victor’s father ever mention his daughter? Who is this so called sister? Is this a clue, or a dropped storyline? Is Julie Victor’s sister who disappeared? Who knows 🙆🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
Is Randall a marine? Cuz when Boyd was with Martin they pretty much acknowledged they both were marines and that they don’t leave any man behind, if you recall.
@@Cr1ms0nRav3n You have a great point and brought up something interesting. It hasn't been confirmed if Randall was a marine. Randall got mad and was shocked Boyd left him behind with the monsters. Get ready for this theory, are you ready? because he probably would not do that due to his experience with the Marines🤯.
NO ONE is getting out of this town because they are ALL DEAD or in a COMA. That's exactly how the series will end, we will see all the remaining characters in a hospital bed. People end in this town after dying in traffic accidents or a tragic death. The fallen tree is the tree of life and we know that crows are thought to be able predict death in many cultures. Crows that go through the window of a house indicate the death of an inhabitant, and we all know what happened to Tillie... who was dying of cancer in a hospital bed and ended in the town. She was happy and jumping in the rain because finally she got rid of a life with cancer pain. Incidentally we never see any characters where they were exactly just before ending at the fallen tree. Tabitha was sent in another part of the town where hospitalized people are getting better, to get the police woman and Henry. All the mysteries and plots are just there to stretch the story into 5 or 6 seasons when this could have been done as a 2 hour movie. There is no time travel or aliens of other scifi elements. The characters can even fly if they want to, but their mind is not yet free, they do not realise that they are death/nearly-dead, and that the normal laws of physics do not even apply here!
🧐 I was thinking too that they all died in motor vehicle accidents since they all traveled to From via various modes of motor vehicles, but I am strongly hoping this is not the case. This kind of scenario would be too reminiscent of Lost. 😢
The word purgatory was used in this show in the third season to explain things, I think this might be a valid theory, but the question is, to what end? It seems like somebody is still tormenting them (the voice on the radio) so who or what is tormenting them?
I think that i have it figured out Julie while in the cave she called out MOM thinking she heard her mom and the ankhooy children,what if that wasn't her moms voice but was Victor's mom's voice from the past And the person who klld the ankhooy children what if its the person that julis mom was running from from her dream as a child it was day time so probably it was a person And last and not least wat if at the shed where they found statues and food,the weird sounds and knocking might be from the person who klld the ankhooy children and the weird statues might also be of the ankhooy children Might also be why that place isnt so affected and full of the night creatures The dots all connect smhow
When "Boyd" Lit "TheTorch" in The"ArchWayRuins" & "Teleported" to When The"ArchWay" Still "Stood", I *KNEW* That "ArchWay" *Deserved* More Attention & Investigation!🤔 ("Julie" Needs to "Ripley-Load-Out"("MidEvil-Weapons-Style"), Return to The"ArchWayRuins" & Light "TheTorch" HerSelf!)💥
I got it!!! The world between worlds from Star warz.(i didn't like it), there's a place that exists outside of time(threshold) and wormholes in that place that connects to different places throughout time. Boyd received the rope in his present time, that time passed, and Julie entered the "threshold" in her present time, giving boyd the rope.
I think eloise got out, moved to Saskatchewan where she lives happily married to her eskimo hubby with their 3 eskimo babies surviving off of fresh fish, berries, and exotic kush buds in the wilderness. She off da grid homie.
I don’t think Eloise is dead. Victor assumes she is, but he never saw her body. He just said that she ran off to find her mom. There was no reason for the show to have introduced her, as a forgotten surprise, with no clear conclusion, only for her to have an unexplained death. She’s going to pop back up somehow or we’re going to find out more about her!
When Victor said Eloise was good at hide and seek, I knew without a doubt we'd see her at some point in the show.
@ Great point! I believe this is the 2nd time he’s said this. I heard someone else say it’s possible that she’s been hiding this whole time!
I mean i guess but that feels like a cop out.. it's been what, like at the VERY LEAST 30 years since he's seen her. If she went through the lighthouse, wouldn't she have found her way back to her husband? And if she was still there, wouldn't she try to find Victor somehow? As a mother it makes less than no sense.
@ You’re mistaken, I’m talking about Victor’s sister Eloise. According to Victor, his mother Miranda is definitely dead, he found her body & I think buried her. But he last saw his sister when she ran off to find their mom.
He assumes she’s dead, but he has no idea what actually happened. He has also stated 2x now that “she’s really good at hiding,” I don’t think that’s a coincidence.
I think she’s either there and hiding or made it out through the lighthouse that night. Her mom would’ve put her in the tree first. The only thing is that she wasn’t reunited with her dad so she’s probably still in fromville.
I don't think the blood is for Fatima. It's a bottle for the baby when it's born.
FOR MY BABY SMILEY
She did drink blood, though, and ran out of it. Great point too
@WinesndFrom, she does eat blood. I think it might be for both of them.
I think Sarah actually killed 4 people, not 2, but i dont think anyone knows about Jade's friend who she stabbed in the neck. but she killed Kenny's dad and the lady who was with him, she killed her brother as well
They know that she killed Toby (jades friend) and her brother
She killed 2 and let 2 more die by leaving the door open.
She killed Toby (Jade’s friend) and her brother.
The night creatures killed the nurse and Kenny’s dad.
Question: All this took place at the Clinic. I’m trying to remember, where was Christy?
@@CatHarlemI think back then Christy didn't stay at the clinic. She stayed there after the nurse was killed.
Christy always stayed at the clinic. She was performing surgery on Ethan on the bus in the forest that night
To understand From here is what you do, take a look at some images of the Hero's Journey, then look at the zodiac cross, then look at the Tarot card "Wheel of Fortune" and then take a look at the talismans and it will all become clear.
From is retelling the story of the sun, the ecliptic path, the sine wave, and every story that uses the Hero's Journey narrative is the same hidden message. But, this is just the narrative, not the story. The story mixes mythology, science, religion, psychology, consciousness and the human psyche and how we are trapped in cycles of grief and how trauma creates multiple personalities. But, it's the narrative and astrological motifs that interest me the most.
What is established now?
Tabitha is the Hero and the show started the journey when she arrived. Jim said stop saying she is the chosen saviour responsible for getting everyone home. But, this is what she is. She will be the one to go through a transformation and find the reward to bring everyone home and break the cycle. Boyd was the old hero. He told them to let go and they did it before but they won't do it again because they don't believe in him anymore. Because the Hero's Journey begins at the top of the circle, the summer solstice. Boyd represented Aries, the spring equinox before the summer solstice. That's why he found the lamb to save the town (saved by the lambs blood Aries). If you see the images it's easy to understand.
Season three is the winter solstice, that's why Fatima is going to have a baby and there was a death and rebirth, because that is the motif of the death and rebirth of the sun. I even said the baby is likely the Kimono lady's baby and we can't see it because it exists on a different frequency. Then Elgin says its not her baby, do iy has to be the Kimono lady's baby. And on top of that, Elgin literally drags her into a cave, this is literally the step before the great ordeal on the Hero's Journey. The great ordeal/revelations/abyss is the winter solstice. That means season three ends at the middle of the Hero's Journey. Giving us two-three more seasons?
The thing inside Fatima never liked Tilly because she had the answers. Tarot Card = astrology = all the answers to the show, Prisca Theologia.
We also have expressions of anger with Victor, right as he is breaking through his repressed memories and the trauma that was repressed was the moment when his mother left him. Lacan, Jung Freud, Descartes anyone? Jasper isn't a let down, he represents a mnemonic device. He helped Victor unlock the repressed memories of the boy in white talking to Christopher because he told his mother what he heard and this is when his mother left him. So, he repressed the trauma and was unable to develop like a normal person would. Wether Jasper talked or not, that wasn't what was important.
This episode also shows it isn't reincarnation it's a cycle, that's what we get with Victor's dad and Jim talking. If it were reincarnation Jim would be Victor's dad, but they are talking to each other. So Tabitha is not Miranda reincarnated. If anything they have all but confirmed she is Eloise, the way Victor said you were there when I remembered Eloise, you can make Jasper tell me the secrets he told Christopher. Either they are foreshadowing that Tabitha is Eloise, or it's a misdirection. But, I have a feeling Tabitha was there when Victor was a child, if she is his sister or not.
The narrative is the sun's ecliptic path. Boyd/lamb/Aries/spring equinox, Tabitha/summer solstice/start of Josepth Campbell's Hero's Journey, Jade/drunk/Moses/the Crater star sign known as a cup, Fatima/Venus/miraculous birth/winter solstice, Randall/the wounded beast/Hydra, Kristi/Bear trap/Ursa Minor and Draco, Victor alone for 40 years/40 years wandering the dessert/just before the red sea splits/passover/spring equinox. All of the major motifs in From are astrological. Prisca theologia is how you understand the narrative.
If you want to understand the story, get intimate with David Lynch, Zizek, psychoanalysis in film, and cinema and fantasy. Every character is a personification of different concepts of the subconscious mind, the ego, the Id, the super ego, the shadow self, the lodge/cabin, the mirror stage, the rules, the Oedipus complex etc.. But, the misconception is people saying "it's all a dream and means nothing." Because all that shows they don't understand desire or how fantasy underpins reality. It isn't actually all a dream. What psychologist are talking about is your auto pilot mode, it's more like your day dreaming. We exist in a reality we created from the fantasy of our own mind. This is why we say we create our own reality, or reality is perception, or free will is an illusion. Most people don't realize how much time they spend on auto pilot, in a fantasy state, when decisions are actually made by our subconscious mind, the Freudian slip, the social constructs around us, everything we have experienced, our family, our religion, our beliefs, it's from this place our decisions are already made.
From is the special world, the unknown, the subconscious and the underworld the sun travels. But, the key is frequency and letting go. If you're stuck in a cycle of grief, trauma and desire your consciousness is at a low frequency, its like being stuck in a place with monsters. From is that cycle of depression you mind goes through as much as it is about the cycle of the sun.
That was a pretty amazing theory!! 💯💯 Very impressive! Thanks for sharing 👌🏼
Most of that good but she is the reincarnation of miranda not eliose idk if eliose dead or whatever but they have thrown clues left and right about the link of Miranda and tabathia being Miranda reincarnated like last episode showing Jim and henery are a lot alike showing tabathias soul has a type and mirror her former life
Wow
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Salient thoughts…very interesting. I see the dots you’re connecting. Also not sold the show is going there; yet, there’s a part of me that hopes you’re right or that they’ve come up with something equally clever. #MajorGratitude for this breakdown.
In episode 8/9 of season one, Victor placed Julie in a farway tree. I went back and watched that episode, and she appeared to definitely have been taken to the stoned arch, and I believe someone told her to run as well. I believe this is actually when she threw the rope to Boyd, but this memory was taken from her until she re-entered the archway during Sunday’s episode.
This was the best episode by far maybe the best of the series!!
I'm glad we are finally getting some answers and really hope that the writers don't drag things any further...
Show is supposed to be 5 seasons, so were over the halfway hump at least
Hope so, lost was a dissapointment
I'm here hoping for more seasons cuz there's no way all questions are gonna be answered in 2 episodes
@Vazhipokkann, what answers are we getting. They haven’t showed what drew them there.
The town has like a 50s/60s style to it so I think they did the sacrifice back then and they got eternal life.. just not like how they imagined. I keep trying to make out the name of the town on the school (now the hospital).
There is not a ton of blood loss with delivery. A ton of blood loss would most likely mean there is a serious problem. Either the blood is for her to drink (like she was drinking from Niki’s bullet wound) or for the baby to drink once it’s born. Or Might be to help her get through the delivery.
…Smiley had no blood in his body. If she turns, maybe his blood would help prevent that somehow.
But I think it’s for the baby.
What if tabetha is actually victors sister who ran away to help her mother
Is she older? Or does age matter in this world
@Cecelovesbirdie dont know , like she lokks like same age as victor
Nothing to support it, I do not even know where did that theory come from?
First of all, she would be close to or over 50 yo now! Like Victor.
How did she forget everything that happened in 70s?
How come she didn't recognize her own dad in Henry? That would also imply Tabitha was adpoted at some point in time in her teens. No mention of that as well.
Also, genetics.
We have not seen evidence Eloise is death, but that's about as much as we know for now.
This series has given hint about time travel , maybe tabetha is recognising her childhood memory
Time travel! Well maybe Julie helps Tabitha time travel to where it all started (before the sacrifice) so she can break the cycle and everything... that would be a nice way to fix all.
What Do Cicadas Eat?
During their time underground, cicadas primarily feed on the juices and sap of tree roots.
The children poured their hope into the roots.
"Your blood is my blood." It looked like cicadas underneath Boyd's skin, passed on by Martin, then to Smiley.
Kids vs the monsters.
I like the Elgin vs. Fatima in the box idea.
I think Tabatha is Eloise.. she had the memory of some of the rocks from when she was a kid. I think Victors sister ran away and went through a far away tree and somehow made it out. Since Julie was able to time travel or astral project, who knows 🤷🏽♂️
Totally Agree!
Wouldn't Eloise be around the same age as Trevor? None of the women there look as old as him besides Tilly and she died.
@@ouroboros313 I honestly don’t understand why people keep forgetting Eloise was only a few years younger than Victor. She can’t be Tabitha and definitely not Sara.
@@CatHarlem I understand that Eloise wasn't that far off as far as age is concerned but Victor is well into his late 40's to early 50's at least. Tabitha is like, late 30's early 40's. The age gap is too wide.
@@ouroboros313 Exactly!
I was agreeing with you in my original comment.
maybe when Tillie said "you have to run" to Fatima she was saying you have to run from Elgin?
Also! i was thinking if the crops went rotten right when this 'Phantoma' baby started showing itself its like the land was preparing itself to cater to Fatimas new cravings.
Notice how the settlement they found has fresh food with the creepy totems warding off some sort of bad entity. Maybe the bad entity they were warding off was the baby or the kimono lady? and the food is fresh there since nothing evil can enter its boundries? cant help but feel this is all connected.
Probably just her telling her to get out of there before she's seen.
I thought a whole lot of nothing happened again
Same
"If you travel to the past, that past becomes your future, and your former present becomes the past, which now can't be changed by your new future" - Smart Hulk
I dont think there is any time travel here....Julie was not actually there to throw the rope. Julie has access tot he dungeon bcuz she is still possessed by whatever entity it is. Martin is a manifestation of that entity and thats why he knew her name. I think that dungeon is kind of a dimensional crossroads and what Julie is seeing/hearing is like residual dimensional memories.
She did grab the rope and threw it down the well, though.
@@mvbest123 she wasnt physically there to throw it....her mind was there...not her body
Time works differently there ao who's to say she wasnt there physically but lets say thats the case, that would mean Boyd wasnt physically there to climb the rope either. I dnt think the entity is Martin, y would it need her to throw a rope down a well, think about it. I think martin seen these events play out more than once while chained and is directing some to do what others couldnt
@@jimmybillz5923 she wasn’t physically there but somehow she was still able to grab that rope. Remember Boyd got that 💩 in his blood at that same place also, from the guy chained to the wall. No one else but her was able to throw the rope down.
what if the kimono lady is julie. Since Julie can travel around and through time as a spirit or whatever and her actions have an effect on the reality that she's in... plus she does have a friendship with Elgin so maybe she enlists his help because they have that relationship
I think the komoto lady is Victors, mom if she got out. And if she got out maybe the sister did as well and maybe the mom seen only the reality of them getting out but had to leave Victor, behind and couldn’t go back to her home and changed her daughter name and maybe Tabatha, is Eloise.
Best review!
You have better recap compared to others.
To your theory that Elgin and Fatima are related, maybe Elgin gave her his blood because they ARE related and have the same blood type. Maybe he just didn’t know that when he drew his blood. Maybe it will all work out when his blood is used post-delivery.
Could it be related not sure
1. Origins of the Town and the Curse: The town was founded in 1238, and perhaps during or shortly after that time, a dark ritual or an event involving eight families took place. This event could have been a sacrifice of a child from each family, possibly as part of a pact, ritual, or desperate attempt to secure power or immortality. However, the ritual backfired or invoked a curse, binding each family to the town forever.
2. The Curse Across Generations: The curse means that each family is trapped in the town, unable to truly escape. Over time, the curse might manifest as a cycle in which descendants of each family are forced to relive or confront similar tragic events. Each century or specific period brings about a new "reawakening" or repetition of the curse's effects.
3. Specific Years as Key Moments: Each year (1506, 1609, 1752, etc.) could represent a significant point when the curse "activates" or when a new generation is forced to reenact the sacrifice or confront a traumatic event. For example:
1506: A significant event for one family, perhaps involving a child or member being taken as part of the curse.
1609: Another family faces a similar fate, maybe linked to the curse spreading or intensifying.
And so on, with each date representing a new cycle or significant event involving each cursed family.
4. Families Stuck in Different Time Periods: Since each family is connected to a specific time period, the curse might prevent them from fully existing outside of it. They may age or appear to belong to that period, stuck in a "time loop" within the village. So, characters from different families may come from different centuries yet coexist in the village as if time doesn't affect them linearly.
5. Sacrifices and Continuation of the Curse: Each generation could face the same tragic choice-the need to sacrifice one of their own to temporarily keep the curse at bay or to try breaking it, knowing that failure could lead to worse consequences. This might keep the families trapped and passing down the curse from one generation to the next, with no one able to escape.
6. Breaking the Cycle: The main plot could center around a group of characters (possibly the latest generation) who discover the truth behind the dates and the original pact. Their goal might be to uncover what happened in 1238, understand the curse's mechanics, and find a way to break free. Each date might hold clues or pieces of a puzzle they must solve to end the curse once and for all.
Where did you get 1238?
Victor never mentions finding his sisters body and in this episode he explains how good she is at hide and seek hmmm wouldn’t be surprised if she pops up later or we hear more about her story
honestly i have a theory that tabitha may be eloise
Omg what if Henry is Jim, Miranda is Tabitha, Eloise is Julie & Victor is Ethan!!!
Im still wondering why there are 2 bottle trees with the same numbers
@mopkrayz, I was thinking the same thing. Then the nurse girlfriend arrived and said that the nurse was gone for 2-21/2 years. I said well they aren’t dead.
Does the kimono lady look like she's been healing or looking less ghastly?
i had a theory that it was her baby / she is going to be reborn as the baby. she showed up after fatima found out she was pregnant, she appears healthier as fatima eats the rotten food, fatima saw her once she was in the room the baby needs to be in, the kimono lady basically influenced elgin to get fatima in the room, elgin tells fatima that the baby isn’t hers implying it was either the towns or possibly even the kimono ladies. just seems convenient but it could end up in a plot twist.
The short answer is the book scene from Interstellar . you can send a message through time😅
The big takeaway which had been hinted at. There were people trapped in this realm where conscious perception manifests as reality. Some people thought that by doing a ritual sacrifice of the children they could get back to their reality. They did this in the caves, but the children who are better at using their imagination worked together to change the place, to make ti represent nightmares as revenge against the people who betrayed them and so they could be resuced. The people directly involved became the mosnters who killed the rest. "The boy in white" was one of them who kept bringing them there to save the children who are trapped in some limbo but their own effort to turn the place into a land of nightmares. Like Jacob in lost, they pick people to try and save them and bring them here, just no one has as of yet been sucessful. We see when the boy in white tried explaining ti directly to the puppeteer he didnt beleive them. He didnt betray the town, Victor told what he had heard to his mother who had already figured out a lot about the place, and thought she had to rescue the children in the tower, possibly based off some previous expereince.
Based on the cave painting, i think the people who came there with the children came via water, maybe they saw a lighthouse (I think cause and effect gets wonky here, temporal weirdness, even the producers said that) But when the children changed the forest to be a place that was made out of the nightmares of people who would be there, they created a "monster" they couldnt control. And not that monster is trying to break through into the real world. It's the forest itself, and entity that was "made into being" by the children. They made it as their protector, but they gave it a life of its own.
My guess is "Anguey" means "Aunt Julie" Maybe Tabitha fails to save them and "Aunt Julie" is the one who will do what Tabitha was suposed to do.
Okay I like this show but it’s not explaining how this started. If you haven’t watched (Tea cup) check it out because it’s good. As I was saying before, how/ who knew the townsmen above the door would work. How did Fatima, get pregnant. The going through the tree, like if your good/ bad. The chained up guy how did he know there names. Why the chained up guy blood is special. And a whole lot of more answers. They haven’t some explaining to do.
Mabe Fatima is giving birth to the one that's saves them all, since Elgin see's the future wouldn't he know if the komoto woman was evil? what no "spidey tingle"?
I agree with you but as for the Komoto, lady I think that might be Victors, mom if she didn’t get out.
@@Barbie-Brightvictor said he saw his moms dead body.
He drained his own blood so she can drink it. She needs to drink it for whatever the hell that baby is.
The more I watch this show, the more I feel like they've all been there before at some point. Time paradoxes are being revealed that deepen the plot. I think Tabitha or Sara might have a HUGE connection to Trevor.
Who is Trevor?
@rahvu420 Trevor...Victor...Same person.
Fatima is going to die her baby is smiley he's going to be reborn and he is going to drain Fatima's life force
Didn't think of that... An eye for an eye🤣🤣🤣
Ok hold up 28:14 the 1st few episodes where filler while the last few have been good...
I can understand Tabitha not remembering her childhood dreams, that's actually very normal, but if you wanna tell me that she is Eloise and she does not remember months maybe years spent in a hell.. I am telling you, you are reaching.
Tabby's mother being Eloise is also based on basically nothing (definately not genetics), but parents, grandparents are mentioned more and more.
Whats with boyds beard growing more and more grey as episodes go by.... stress? Time travel?
The blood is for fatima to eat for the baby.😢
Fatima drank the damn blood update this stuff plz
There are no R's in between words that end with and begin with vowels it's killing me
I can’t recall, but did Victor’s father ever mention his daughter? Who is this so called sister? Is this a clue, or a dropped storyline? Is Julie Victor’s sister who disappeared? Who knows 🙆🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
Jim is an idiot....The end 🤷🏿♂️
Martin has a scar on his face could that be a future Randall or alternate universe Randall
Is Randall a marine? Cuz when Boyd was with Martin they pretty much acknowledged they both were marines and that they don’t leave any man behind, if you recall.
@@Cr1ms0nRav3n You have a great point and brought up something interesting. It hasn't been confirmed if Randall was a marine. Randall got mad and was shocked Boyd left him behind with the monsters. Get ready for this theory, are you ready? because he probably would not do that due to his experience with the Marines🤯.
If elgin went back in time twenty years, that would mean everyone on the bus went back in time twenty years.That theory is rubbish
I think the blood in mason jars could be food for Fatima.
NO ONE is getting out of this town because they are ALL DEAD or in a COMA. That's exactly how the series will end, we will see all the remaining characters in a hospital bed. People end in this town after dying in traffic accidents or a tragic death. The fallen tree is the tree of life and we know that crows are thought to be able predict death in many cultures. Crows that go through the window of a house indicate the death of an inhabitant, and we all know what happened to Tillie... who was dying of cancer in a hospital bed and ended in the town. She was happy and jumping in the rain because finally she got rid of a life with cancer pain. Incidentally we never see any characters where they were exactly just before ending at the fallen tree. Tabitha was sent in another part of the town where hospitalized people are getting better, to get the police woman and Henry. All the mysteries and plots are just there to stretch the story into 5 or 6 seasons when this could have been done as a 2 hour movie. There is no time travel or aliens of other scifi elements. The characters can even fly if they want to, but their mind is not yet free, they do not realise that they are death/nearly-dead, and that the normal laws of physics do not even apply here!
🧐 I was thinking too that they all died in motor vehicle accidents since they all traveled to From via various modes of motor vehicles, but I am strongly hoping this is not the case. This kind of scenario would be too reminiscent of Lost. 😢
The word purgatory was used in this show in the third season to explain things, I think this might be a valid theory, but the question is, to what end? It seems like somebody is still tormenting them (the voice on the radio) so who or what is tormenting them?
Could be. Most cars are really messed up
Elgin is going to get Fatima the blood he took out for her to drink to start the process
I think that i have it figured out
Julie while in the cave she called out MOM thinking she heard her mom and the ankhooy children,what if that wasn't her moms voice but was Victor's mom's voice from the past
And the person who klld the ankhooy children what if its the person that julis mom was running from from her dream as a child it was day time so probably it was a person
And last and not least wat if at the shed where they found statues and food,the weird sounds and knocking might be from the person who klld the ankhooy children and the weird statues might also be of the ankhooy children
Might also be why that place isnt so affected and full of the night creatures
The dots all connect smhow
If that grandson theory is true, throw this whole series away. I love the show, but these idiotic theories people have are ruining it.
When "Boyd" Lit "TheTorch" in The"ArchWayRuins" & "Teleported" to When The"ArchWay" Still "Stood", I *KNEW* That "ArchWay" *Deserved* More Attention & Investigation!🤔
("Julie" Needs to "Ripley-Load-Out"("MidEvil-Weapons-Style"), Return to The"ArchWayRuins" & Light "TheTorch" HerSelf!)💥
No
Bro… check your audio settings… my god
I got it!!! The world between worlds from Star warz.(i didn't like it), there's a place that exists outside of time(threshold) and wormholes in that place that connects to different places throughout time. Boyd received the rope in his present time, that time passed, and Julie entered the "threshold" in her present time, giving boyd the rope.
I think eloise got out, moved to Saskatchewan where she lives happily married to her eskimo hubby with their 3 eskimo babies surviving off of fresh fish, berries, and exotic kush buds in the wilderness. She off da grid homie.
Smiley ☺️
Still no answer
... maybe a baby Wendigo to replace the one Boyd killed.
Niceeee thought
Fatama is the lady
I think it’s either Victors mom or julie, or the nurse girlfriend.
meh. boring. breakdown breaks attention. they've lost they're way.
Stop pronouncing Sera’ Sawrah