The Triglavians - What the HELL Are They? Eve Online’s Newest NPC Faction Explained!
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- They are cryptic, mysterious, powerful, and Eve’s most fascinating NPC faction so far.
But they are STILL a mystery, and will probably always be a bit of a mystery. We can still tackle the nature and origins of the Triglavians.
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Ok using Slavic folklore and mythology is beyond epic, Eve making me reactivate my subscription
yeah, damn, I had no idea! Emanation of something, something, and Svarog!
My slightly Slavic soul rose in pride! =D
(And now I'm also ashamed that some american dude on the internet knows more about my heritage's mythology than I do :( =D )
Dude, hell yes. I was so excited when I saw Perun mentioned in this game. Extremely underrated god
@@MidnightSt The others they mentioned were Perun and Veles I believe :D
Greetings from a SLAV at heart
And we can go even further back in time to find the number three, to the ancestors of Slavics (and many others, like Greeks, Celts, etc) the Proto-Indo-European. In the Greek case the three chief gods are Zeus, Hades and Poseidon (and there's also their three sisters). Glad to see they're could be exploring the Slavic side of Indo-European mythology this time.
The jove theory is pretty good. I was thinking they could be original earthlings before watching this.
Im still a eve online noob so don’t expect me to be anywhere near the frontlines, I already got ptsd from the first attack i witnessed
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bruh got one shotted by a triglavian in my cormorant
Not a lot of channels talk about the eve lore, which fascinates me, and I hope you post more, SUBBED
Before you judge The Drifters for using the cadavers of their victims, the raw material used for high quality clones (Like those used by every Capsuleer) is cadavers that are sold in bulk to cloning companies. So every player is wearing the recycled body of someone else. Great introduction to the Triglavians for newbros!
As Biomass is an important ingredient in Planetary Management (and can be hard to find) I was hoping corpses of capsuleers might be recyclable into it. So far no positive results. Soylent Green anyone?
Imagine ur a cloning company. Would you rather spend lots of money to get biomass or just buy dead clone bodies
The pocket dimensions the triglavians reside in are probably inspired by the mini-universes and 4th dimensional space fragments from the third book the series the "Three Body Problem" is a part of, "Deaths End".
Yep, that would explain why abyssal deadspace pockets collapse after a while - In the book, the 4d fragments eventually collapse into 3d space, destroying anything inside it.
2:35 i listen to videos while washing dishes, and you said, here's a clip. because I couldn't see, i didn't know that an ad started, i thought there was a pause. then i hear, ARBYS< WE HAVE THE MEATS!
You know what this gave me an idea since each ships from the trig line is made by a specific clade I am gonna try and hold a damavik and kikimora fleet for my alliance and after every kill in local we will type: "the 2 clades perun and svarog have united to create an unbreakable force and that balance shall not be disturbed"
I need to find about the other NPC factions. Good video , mate!
Still a new comer to this universe and looks like it is getting interesting off the bat. As to this faction's message it sounds a bit like a warning, something being destroyed, and the marking of a person.
There's a lot to the history that probably explains them pretty well.
The jovians survive the collapse of the Eve Gate because they had ended up colonizing the territory that was not quite connected to New Eden.
Shortly after Eve Gates collapse the first Jovian empire built up, but it fell into a civil war between the two facets of Jovian Society. To understand them, one has to know that the jovians originally started colonizing new Eden before the jump Gates and jump drive technology. This led to their colony ships being sleeper ships that had the majority of the colonist in cryo-sleep, with only the crew being awake. This led to the first Jovian empire being divided between those who were awake during the voyage and those who were sleepers during the voyage.
The first Jovian Empire was basically on par with the current new Eden Empires minus the capsular tech. Not much has showin up in the lore about it other than that it collapsed into a Civil War that stagnated their development until the second Jovian Empire begins, out of the victors. Now everything posted about the second Jovian Empire seems to indicate that the sleeper sde of their society was the one who won the Civil War.
For what's knowin of the second Jovian Empire, it was most likely the people who built the orbital structure around Caroline’s star. It seems that they discovered, using that orbital structure, how to open wormholes and while going through the wormholes ran into the Sleepers/Drifters.
From what the lore hints at, the sleepers are literally sleepers, as in the jovians that were in cryo-sleep and their ships simply never arrived at a destination they could colonize. To understand that you got to go further back in the lore and you will find that the colony ships had the cryogenically frozen jovians connect it in a artificial reality, kind of like the Matrix.
The lore hints at the sleepers possibly that the drones called sleeper drones are actually flown by sleepers that are still in those artificial realities.
Now The Drifters seem to come out of what destroyed the second Jovian Empire. It was destroyed from a war between them and AIs. In the early attempts to enhance themselves, the jovians toyed with installing AI implants into themselves to heighten their intelligence. This resulted in some of the rogue AIs taking over the bodies they were implanted in and started the war. Now it's really not explained rather the Drifters are AI survivors from this war, or if "their" one super AI that controls all the Drifters. But in the end it is clear that the Drifters are AI from the second Jovian Empire. New Eden's version of the Borg.
Now fast forward all the way up to now, it's hard to say but the Triglavians are I think a possible third path from the Second Empire. The first two paths of course being the Jovians who were the Third Empire ( the jovians of the eve game universe), and The Drifters who are the jovians who fell under the AI during the fall of the second Jovian Empire.
As the war ended the jovians created a new law, one body one mind, but there's a chance that the Triglavian could be either jovians from the Second Empire or a faction of sleepers who have adopted the idea of using a second AI to prevent the first from taking them over, and they simply never dropped the idea of using AIs in their implants.
this is a pretty good playlist for people who are into the lore,
ua-cam.com/play/PL17mxkH4sIb2XOferjcTcS27xFwq9B0KZ.html
And to get more feel for what I was saying about the second Jovian Empire,
ua-cam.com/video/kznxfp5n3nY/v-deo.html
Keep in mind these are just "audio books" of CCP's Chronicles. So all of its Canon so to speak, and the parts of it that aren't in the Chronicles are actually in the game during missions and gathered through research. I haven't found a database of screenshots and didn't make any of my own back when I was playing PVE and hunting the story. So sadly, all I can say is play the PVE story and you'll see it if you want to.
And one of my personal favorites.
ua-cam.com/video/uty1Lj1jYFU/v-deo.html
Birth of the capsuleer.
drifter are actualy jovian but aside from this the rest of you said might be true since we don't know if they have, as you said, a civil war or a simple economic depression.
whot we know is that with the second empire we see genetic experiment that our science in shame but with zero controll that spark jovian disease, forcing them to build the mothership in a way to escape the disease.
last, while they are isolate, the jovian found a way to circunavigate the use of stargate ( that explain why you see lancer and drifter ship all around new eden )
This is a pretty good write up but you are way off on some things.
For example:
The first Jove empire was by far the most dominant and advanced of the 3 Jove empires.
The second Jove empire was brought down by the Jove disease, not by a war with AI.
The Talocons are thought to have built the massive structure around Caraline's star, this is said by the Jove who found it.
This link has a really good breakdown of everything we have been told about the Jove so far.
forums.eveonline.com/t/compilation-the-lore-of-the-jove/183437
@@Bitchslapper316 remember that the Jovian disease didn't appear until the 3rd Jovian Empire, the one that existed in the game before they shut down and handed there tech and knowledge over to the Society of Conscious Thought (SoCT).
Remember that in Inheritance, the story consistently bounces back and forth between Veniel when he was young, and the present. It covers when the jovians first discover the Caralins star structure, Ouria lead an expedition that found it and they surmise that it was built during the Second Empires time.
I'd stick to what they say in the Chronicles rather than a forum post. But in the end they might have just not finished the story and now they're trying to pick it back up again by can't remember where they were.
But it was Ouria who found the structure and then he pulled Veniel in to help research it.
@@andreacapuano585 Yes Drifters are jovians, but they're most likely jovians under the control of an AI. it's hard to tell because of the back and forth in the story line between them and the sleepers.
The Jovian disease pops in during the third empire rather than the second, the Second Empire was taken down by a war between the jovians and AIs which is why the third empire had the one body one mine law.
yknow.. right at the beginning of the vid as we were comparing the two factions i thought "okay, so the drifters are like a technocratic offshoot, and the triglavians are a hyper religious offshoot" And then you mentioned the slavic mythology ties. this is actually really fascinating to learn the lore of a game ive never played lol
Triglavians are like the Robotech masters..... Now I sit back and wait to see who knows what I'm even referring too. 😄
A race of clones that depend on organic-reactor giant robot technology, featured in a children's television broadcast? :-)
@@johnaquino7619exactly. 😁😁
Intersting Analogy I never thought about it. A friend from the Edencom Alliance speaks of an Endgame battle between traglavian vs. Drifter and the Return of the Jove empire I never gave it so much thought. I will look into this.
New Eden was kept under watch by the powerful Jove keeping other advanced factions at bay, until now.
All the Jove are dead
In Slovenia, There is a mountain - actually the tallest mountain - called Triglav.
From the deep within the core of the mountain an energy centre was discovered to project energy across mountain ranges further across the land, split into three by the three peeks of mount Triglav and were measured by researchers and one of them, who is very adept at reading and feeling them went out of his way to create Litho-punctual geomantic stones carved out of rocks that draw this energy and distributes it into its surroundings along these energy lines. On these stones are carved "Cosmo-grams" that code this neutral energy with informational substance and gives it specific frequency.
At the time of my discovery, I was completely oblivious to the effects of these stones but one day when I approached the line going down the valley of the river Kolpa when I was visiting the place, I felt something different, and as I went for a closer look I was shocked to see my oblivious self be drawn to one of the stones. I had no idea what it was but it strengthened the electro-magnetic field produced by the friction of blood running through my veins. I was immediately focused and really curious to what it is causing this phenomena. Upon research I found this man that made these statues of sorts. He told me it is like acupuncture and the centres are like meridians the Earth produces. And that particular stone which I felt deeply, was in resonance with me. Furthermore, he told me that along those lines are key points where one can relax so profoundly that leaves the body fully conscious and enters other realms of existence that we share with wild-life not existing on the physical plane but rather energetic plane which supports the whole physical creation.
So yeah....
Fukin weird and awesome at the same time
I'm always fascinated in Ancient Races in EVE and I hope CCP keeps expanding the Precursor Lore!
Good video.
Perso, i prefer the Drifter mystery... like their style and, well love everything about them.
Zombie like peeps, part of their ships seem half-cloack which is cool, BS with powerhouse DD, no talk or diplomacy...
And they're physicaly look like a distant cousin of the Borg
I beleive that drifters are remnants of Jovian AI that turned on their masters.I think the Jovians made contact with earth and that Triglavians were somehow involved in that contact,perhaps as a survivor faction of the Earth after the New Eden connection collapsed...
PS - Azdaja is pronounced more like Azhdaya,and it means serpent,or a dragon(or a hydra in this context) on Serbian at least.Nice video !
Nice video sir, subscribed..
Important part of the lore is that all these races originate from the original human explorers trapped in New Eden as the wormhole the came through from earth collapsed.
I have an hypothesis about the drifter.
I think they are an ancient capsuleers that manage to advance way far up ahead than any other races in eve and decided to live off grid and they encounter other race called triglavian and fought for centuries. Now, triglavian knows the source of where those drifter came from so they decided to invade new eden to annihilate capsuleers because due to the fact that drifters are capsuleers... and one thought in my mind could be the drifters are from earth? Where all the capsuleers came from when the expedition started?
This is flawed because the triglavians have not shown aggression to capsuleers, and have in fact been cautiously welcoming to capsuleers willing to venture into abyssal deadspace by challenging them to a "proving" and hinting at the possibility of recruiting capsuleers.
this also conflicts with a large proportion of EvE lore, as NPC's are only non capsuleers.
Amazing summary. Thanx!
Someone brought up an intereting theory that the triglavians are actually fighting against something very powerful and ancient
While abyssal space is good for basing and very good to defend it is terribly resource inefficient so to balance that they learned about new eden and invaded in order to balance the resource disparity and continue their mission
Which would also explain why they havent moved much out of pochven and their living off the land approach
Would def play as Triglavian in the future. Chaos Space Marine vibes.
How powerful and advance are the Triglavians and Dwrfiters compared to other sci fi factions like the Vagyr from Homeworld 2, the Yuuzhan Vong from Star Wars the Expanded Universe, and the Imperium from Warhammer 40k?
I assure you they are very advanced compared to those.They may even match the Shadows and Vorlons in Babylon 5,and THAT is saying something!
Still no clue to this day! But I ninja salvaged and looted their invasions for like a week straight after they showed up and made 2 billion ISK.
This is how to do a great update/expansion
Excellent video
Ive been fighting Triglavians in New Eden for about a week now and i think many other capsuleers should help in the war.
The message mentioned something akin to the Holy Trinity: three gods from Slavic mythology. Perun, Svarog, and Veles.
My knowledge of EVE's lore is limited to occasionally playing when I'm in the mood plus reading the novels, some EVE wikia articles, and watching some EVE related UA-cam videos so I apologize if some of my ideas have been discredited, or if there is basic EVE knowledge that I don't have which would alter my theories.
Was it ever discovered what happened to Earth, and Human civilization outside of New Eden? I used to wonder if the Eve gate had been collapsed deliberately by a New Eden independence movement that didn't understand or care about the side effects. Then later I started wondering if perhaps some overwhelming hostile force, or plague was devastating the rest of human space and the EVE gate was taken out in an attempt to protect New Eden from whatever was wiping out the rest of humanity.
Now I'm wondering if there was a war between human factions outside New Eden and New Eden was a choke point between the two sides. One side decided the war was hopeless so they collapsed the EVE Gate to prevent hostile forces from reaching their home territory, or to cut the flow of reinforcements and supplies to enemy fleets that were in their space. The Drifters and the Triglavians could be the descendants of those factions, or maybe one is the descendants of the faction that was losing and the other are descendants of members of the other side who were cut off from their homes when the EVE Gate went down.
my knowledge of EVE lore is also pretty limited, but I'm pretty sure the Eve Gate was just a massive naturally occurring wormhole that collapsed some time after people started colonizing New Eden, and the Drifters (knowledge limited to UA-cam videos so I'm probably wrong here) started as a virus in the computer system housing the consciousness of the Sleepers, which were a split off of the Jovians who survived the collapse of the gate, and who sealed themselves into stasis pods and uploaded their minds into computers to survive the virus that was wiping out the Jove
Maybe but it seems odd that the rest of humanity hasn't made contact if something didn't happen to them.. A Hookbill's warp drive is 2,500 times the speed of light so the idea that the rest of humanity ignored New Eden for 20,000 years without some catastrophe affecting humanity beyond New Eden makes no sense to me.
Unless they don't know where the rest of humanity is, I don't think there is mention of anyone in New Eden being able to see the Milky Way, so it could be that it's just too far apart to get too. Plus I think at the time of the collapse warp wasn't a thing or was very limited, I remember reading some stories about exploring ships taking whole generations to map out like 10 light years, plus it took thousands of years for people of different ends of New Eden to meet. It could be that the difficulty of the two galaxies meeting without the Eve gate was just too great at the time and then they forgot about each other (knowledge of Earth is pretty limited in New Eden, things like wolves are considered mythical animals and such, and it seems not much is known about it aside that people originally came from there)
Abyssal Dead Space is probably the territory that used to be human space before the New Eden wormhole collapsed and the Triglavians are the survivors who rebuilt. Or maybe the wormhole opening in the first place shoved the beings living in New Eden into Abyssal Dead Space and pulled nearby systems together to form the New Eden we know.
These guys feel like if some Joves broke off, went full Clan from Battletech, but instead of being focused on honour and combat, I think they’ve focused on trying to understand time or space-time, and extend this to several millennia of isolation, and these humans mental patterns must be completely alien. Hell, if they threw in some actual aliens (oh god please no), they might be easier to communicate with then the Trigs. But at least they are trying! It means they want something from something leading to something else which they want in the long run. Still human, humans want, and never want for little else!
Edit: spelling
The Trigs are an offshoot of the Jovians.They inhabited new Eden along with the other Jovians,Endhuanni,Zhi Zhang and Talocan.The Jovian disease affected them in the second empire which also destroyed the Zhi Zhang corporation,and forced the Talocan and most Jovians to flee the galaxy.The Endhuanni were confined to 1 system where they ascended.
Triglav - tallest mountain in Slovenia. Awesome
I know it won't be the drifter or the trig.. But it would be SO cool if something somehow connected to the old earth empire and the SOL system.. reveling what happened after the collapse.. Did they go in stasis kinda like the drifters.. and went mad.. did they become forced to evolve.. That wold be cool to see
I am not a big fan eve online, but I will acknowledge the rack you made a reference to Babylon 5 with of course ( the vorlans and the shadows ) but are the Triglavians?
Are they the punishing parents or the child, or are they somewhere in between??
Okay this vid confirms my fear. I'm not ready for a war yet it feels really close to a big battle in new eden now
Well they sure do love their triangles and edgy lighting. Been there, seen that.
Andromeda had an opponent where they consumed all matter their home universe then built a fleet to jump over to the next universe available
if we are thinking of same andromeda, then galaxy, not universe, and not really a fleet, but one huge-ass ship :P but we could be speaking of different andromedas ;)
I wish I found the game as much fun as its lore and look.
Interesting, i love your vids!
8:17 [muffed hardbass in the distance]
the way I see the trigs they may have been a faction of the jovian empire that what was happening with the use of implants and more automated technology taking over and decided to leave. When they left though they ended up finding a old jovian research station with some filaments or they created them is some sort of experiment and found abbsyal space but were able to keep an eye on the universe that they left behind. and in the video that was playing on the billboards zorya says about destroying the Sansha Nation but so far nothing has happened against them.
Is the 3 body problem you mention related to the netflix show that came out recently?
Yes
translation : drug-latvians invaded hi sec
: there was a second joe vampire
What if.. the trigs are jove that hid in deadspace. Or a race not far after jove tech levels.. and Drifters are jove remains infected with the virus.. that mutated to a cybernetic level? :O
And they are thinking that sansha is going in that infection direction too
Either the inhabitants of a mountain in Slovenia or the crew of an Austro-Hungarian destroyer.
Drifters are just capsuleers with an extra step
So eve players make there own content . Over time the triglavins will conquer everything or players band together to stop them sets up a war for Eden .
It would be epic if it was a war of shadows kinda thing. vary exciting if they do it. then we can all be in the space opera
ohh that's them. I got confuse cuz I thought there's only 4 empire yet there's this. so alien are real?
ITS THE SECOND COMING OF BOB!
Praise BOB! so were i put my offering of tears form killed carebares who were cought in a wormhole.
Bob wills it!
Yeah I am kind of disappointed the 4 empires don't play a bigger role. There really is no point in being loyal Amar or Caldari ship captain other than the type of ship you could get.
For that you'd have to join the Amarr Militia and faction warfare. However I am not sure what the lore of faction warfare is as the nature of it makes no sense LOL
for now they four empire are neutral since the triglavian, while invading high sec and low sec and scary the shit out of the civilian with red/black sky, they are not interest in them.
they are curios about us, the immortal capsuller.
I personally would like pirate factions to have a bigger role in the game instead of seeing them getting braindead farmed over and over. Being able to join them for FW would be cool.
Filaments came from Concord Lore wise. they're found in Data sites not Relics. but decent Video. :P Thanks
I had planned on playing Eve until I found out how the ship "crews" work.
What does that even mean?
Crew in New Eden due to the capsuleer technology do more maintenance and stuff I mean with a capsuleer onboard you dont need a bridge crew nor that much of a enginnering crew. Alot of stuff onboard are also automated but when the automated stuff cant handle it, it's up to the crew to fix it
wiki.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?title=New_Eden_Crew_Guidelines
community.eveonline.com/backstory/scientific-articles/ppcc-part-1-the-capsule-and-the-clone/
Huh... was just thinking about these guys... you reading my mind? If so, I am SO sorry.
If this is Babylon 5 again, who will be the one to lead the forces of New Eden to say "Get out of our Galaxy" :P
Why is so hard to find a guide on how to play Triglavian content as an alpha?
Umm I'm interested in learning how to better beat them. My few months old. If you would like to teach me. Hit me up.
Oh man sounds like Russian space bias
hard light forerunner/Promethean + Sith Style = Triglavian ships
yes we are weird
Triangle based ships...
X3 reunion khak thing ideas i see.... eve really?...
haha
More weird then my doing pvp 😂
EVE a great game for those who have nothing else in life to do.Otherwise its an incredibly tedious waste of time.
bro called slavic culture "strange"
This is why Eve lost so many players.
Nice ships, good storyline but sadly a trash game run by a trash company.