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  • @UltimateAlric
    @UltimateAlric 3 роки тому +586

    This might be the most heartbreaking episode of "What Happened?" ever

    • @Helicopter7
      @Helicopter7 3 роки тому

      I

    • @Mateus_Carvalho
      @Mateus_Carvalho 3 роки тому +39

      Like most SEGA episodes. It's either a heartbreak or a wall-headbang.

    • @kingotime8977
      @kingotime8977 3 роки тому +8

      @@Mateus_Carvalho Haha, true!

  • @HomerGumther
    @HomerGumther 3 роки тому +567

    Never thought Wha Happun would lead me to WANT to play a game, but here we are

    • @AshleyRiot
      @AshleyRiot 3 роки тому +8

      Did you see the Demon’s Souls one yet?

    • @DrGandW
      @DrGandW 3 роки тому +15

      @@AshleyRiot Everyone knows about Demon’s Souls.

    • @AshleyRiot
      @AshleyRiot 3 роки тому +3

      @@DrGandW I didn’t because I’m an idiot

    • @AgapeForgotten
      @AgapeForgotten 3 роки тому +27

      @@AshleyRiot You are NOT an idiot, Your life experiences are just different than others. Even if they had a big advertising budget, if you were rarely where they advertised, or had information overload like walking into a game store where hundreds of games demanded your attention, missing it is a fair result.

    • @guitarhero01234
      @guitarhero01234 3 роки тому +1

      I actually bought a Saturn and a Pseudo Saturn cart around the time this video came out specifically to play Saga, among a bunch of other games. Saga is an incredible game, and if you can figure out a way to play it without paying hundreds of dollars, I'd recommend it

  • @ZONEsama
    @ZONEsama 3 роки тому +1382

    I still have my copy that I got on launch. The crown jewel of my video game collection!

    • @Zexx4
      @Zexx4 3 роки тому +28

      Yo what up zone!?

    • @wolfgangervin2582
      @wolfgangervin2582 3 роки тому +1

      Mine too.

    • @averagebritishguy7082
      @averagebritishguy7082 3 роки тому +12

      *you*

    • @Mystic_Apollo
      @Mystic_Apollo 3 роки тому +43

      Can't shake the feeling this is a hint to one of your next "ideas" shall we say

    • @NintendoW11
      @NintendoW11 3 роки тому +9

      @@theonlybilge Your parents must be so proud. Fucking waste of oxygen.

  • @skyrunner14
    @skyrunner14 3 роки тому +798

    This was a great video, but I just want to clarify that Saturn emulation is no longer a pipe dream. In fact, it's the best it's ever been! Mednafen runs the game PERFECTLY, and if this game looks interesting at all to any of y'all, then look up the game files and emulate it. This is, hands down, the best RPG of it's generation, and if you are an fan of the genre you NEED to play this.

    • @MrRammius
      @MrRammius 3 роки тому +11

      @Zeke Spears Hey if you wouldn't mind pming me the link you used I'd really appreciate it friend!

    • @RandomFandom112
      @RandomFandom112 3 роки тому

      No

    • @radiokunio3738
      @radiokunio3738 3 роки тому +1

      Same am half way through disc 1 now on yabause,

    • @godofmediocrity7582
      @godofmediocrity7582 3 роки тому +7

      It may be possible to emulate, but I have never been able to get it to work on Mednefen

    • @radiokunio3738
      @radiokunio3738 3 роки тому +14

      @@godofmediocrity7582 its work on yabause for me, the only problems i have is that it has trouble detecting my joystick, so i had to map movement to the d-pad,and also it crashes at times so make such to save state every so often.

  • @TheKrazyKat89
    @TheKrazyKat89 3 роки тому +133

    Panzer Dragoon Saga thankfully emulates really well on Mednafen.

    • @naomisisk4663
      @naomisisk4663 3 роки тому +3

      Thank you good sir.

    • @TheKrazyKat89
      @TheKrazyKat89 2 роки тому +2

      @Ruben Leite It is true, I've played through the game that way.
      You can use Mednafen either directly (mednafen.github.io/, documentation: mednafen.github.io/documentation/ss.html) or through RetroArch (www.libretro.com/, documentation: docs.libretro.com/library/beetle_saturn/)

  • @rohankishibeandpinkdarkboy8853
    @rohankishibeandpinkdarkboy8853 3 роки тому +455

    Man, tragedy seems like an understatement for the development of this game.

    • @KyokujiFGC
      @KyokujiFGC 3 роки тому +12

      You know the development cycle is torture when one of the devs literally kills himself.

    • @ATP2555ify
      @ATP2555ify 3 роки тому +7

      @@KyokujiFGC And another dies in an accident

  • @switz6141
    @switz6141 3 роки тому +266

    Wow, that quote about trying to fight through severe bronchitis....I can hardly imagine an era when a game was so impressive and groundbreaking that someone working in testing tried to fight management to WORK MORE, WHILE SICK. Nowadays it seems like employees have to fight just to go home after their normal work hours without being seen as lazy/unambitious, even on era-standard games. Not to say that employees used to be treated better across the board, just that, in current crunch culture, hearing about management sending an employee home despite their desire to work more sounds completely alien.

    • @oldmanramblingatclouds
      @oldmanramblingatclouds 3 роки тому +37

      It's all a matter of passion- ACTUAL passion, instead of whatever mystical force the suits try to invoke to make their Human Resources™ work harder for no benefit. Here in Malaysia, we have a saying that roughly translates to "Those who want, have a thousand inspirations; those who don't, have a thousand excuses", as do a whole lot of other nations, I'd think, and this case illustrates that so well. That dude became invested in the game out of his own free will, because he was given the chance to work on a product that was more than just a product, if that makes any sense. And while I don't know how staff were treated back in the 90s, it had to have been better by simple virtue of being told to go home when he was ill. Environments like that, where people can work on something genuinely meaningful and treated like human beings, will supply more than a thousand inspirations to anyone privileged enough to be part of it.
      Instead, now we have thousands of poor excuses for 'leaders' doing their best to remove any and all forms of inspiration, all to fill their pockets as much as possible before their rotting castles fall apart from the strain of their fat asses, and collapse upon the people who built them.

    • @matthewmiskiewicz8357
      @matthewmiskiewicz8357 3 роки тому +25

      I doubt the original devs of Saga didn't face crunch since one of them commited suicide and knowing Japan's work culture, it probably could've been because of that, though I am just speculating.

    • @switz6141
      @switz6141 3 роки тому +4

      @@matthewmiskiewicz8357 That's a very very good point as well

    • @switz6141
      @switz6141 3 роки тому +10

      @@oldmanramblingatclouds That's a pretty eloquent way to put it. It's crazy how after all this time so many companies fall into the same trappings of greed and crunch and projects and passion suffer for it, when you can see cases of wonderful projects with healthy environments where everyone feels better for it. How things are like this in 2020, in the face of evidence for why the opposite is better, simply baffles me.

    • @bafi29
      @bafi29 3 роки тому +4

      @@oldmanramblingatclouds pasión is a two edge sword, do have you lisent the reasons people are willing to go into the grinder of crunch?
      Is so rooted in the working culture of developers than in most studies you are expected to do it, and if you don't, you are shamed by the ones working harder and marked as lazy and pasionless.
      Most developers only can work on the industry only a few years before quit from burnout.
      Crunch is crunch, stop romanticing it.

  • @GenerationWest
    @GenerationWest 3 роки тому +558

    Sega's Magnum Opus, not known for its massive ambition, but for outside factors making it a lost diamond in the rough.
    Also, in the mid 2000's , when i heard of this, it introduced me to the word "Dragoon", turns out its a British Calvaryman, or mounted infantry, so I learned something that day.

    • @gratuitouslurking8610
      @gratuitouslurking8610 3 роки тому +27

      What is it with games involving the word Dragoon that have strangely convoluted dev cycles and being interesting if hard games to get ahold of?

    • @GenerationWest
      @GenerationWest 3 роки тому +12

      @@gratuitouslurking8610 You know what, you're absolutely right, because Final Fantasy XV lol

    • @PenguinLord10
      @PenguinLord10 3 роки тому +35

      The day I learned that "dragoon" had nothing to do with jumping dragon men was the worst day of my life. I'll never forgive Square for placing those false hopes in me.

    • @CosmoKo_
      @CosmoKo_ 3 роки тому +1

      @@Sniperbear13 not really, there's like 12 different versions/ports of the game, and i'm pretty sure the original SNES version isn't rare

    • @addiemarieruhome
      @addiemarieruhome 3 роки тому +6

      @@gratuitouslurking8610 The Legend of Dragoon was one of the first games I ever played on my PlayStation as a kid. My nostalgia goggles still make me like it better than Final Fantasy lol

  • @lordxmugen
    @lordxmugen 3 роки тому +229

    The most tragic of all game releases. The worst part that it took the lives of 2 people and to add insult to injury, with the loss of the source code prohibiting the game being able to be ported to other systems, theres no monument to their (needless and unnecessary) sacrifice. The only thing that makes me happy is the knowledge that the games ISOs are everywhere on the internet and that emulators can play it well enough so that more gamers can experience one of the greatest JRPGs ever made. One that didnt ask for 40 or 100 hours of your life like some ones did. One that allowed you so much customization and the ability to play how you wanted. One whos entire story is fully voice acted, in a time where that was still not common place. It really was a fantastic game that rivaled (and in many ways, beat) its competition. I can only hope more people enjoy it as others have,[in SNESdrunks voice] any way you can.

    • @costby1105
      @costby1105 3 роки тому +13

      It may be possible to reverse engineer the source code like several N64 games have had.

    • @puertoricanguy999
      @puertoricanguy999 3 роки тому +7

      @@costby1105 N64 and PS1 games have been reverse-engineered before but I don't know if it's possible to do the same for Sega Saturn games.

    • @costby1105
      @costby1105 3 роки тому +6

      @Jo Jo Might not be as hard as you think Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Goldeneye and Perfect Dark have all had their source code reverse engineered. At the bottom of this wikipedia page is a list of game with Reverse engineered source code. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_commercial_video_games_with_available_source_code

    • @costby1105
      @costby1105 3 роки тому +8

      @@puertoricanguy999 I definitely is possible now how practical it is is a different story altogether. Both games written in Assembly and various C languages have had their source code reverse engineered.

  • @feartheoldblood7222
    @feartheoldblood7222 3 роки тому +52

    You can't ignore TWO WORLDS forever matt!

    • @markkoetsier6475
      @markkoetsier6475 3 роки тому +2

      Why, pray tell?

    • @naomisisk4663
      @naomisisk4663 3 роки тому

      No please. Even for Wha Happened, it should remain buried.

    • @psychodrummer1567
      @psychodrummer1567 3 роки тому +2

      Yes, he can and he should.
      Sincerely,
      A former beta-tester for Two Worlds II.

  • @funkrobot9762
    @funkrobot9762 3 роки тому +81

    You murdered the pronunciation of zwei lol. But I still love you.

  • @joshmurphy484
    @joshmurphy484 3 роки тому +76

    I absolutely adore this game. It's super short, but everything about it is so impressive you can't help but enjoy the ride. Definitely wish more people could play it.

    • @MattMcMuscles
      @MattMcMuscles  3 роки тому +26

      Its short? Its like 20 hrs

    • @joshmurphy484
      @joshmurphy484 3 роки тому +39

      @@MattMcMuscles I mean, compared to every other RPG it's short. And even taking my time through it, it ended up being more like 15 hours.

    • @mitchmediak
      @mitchmediak 3 роки тому +21

      20 hours is perfect, once you start getting to 30+ most games start to get a little tedious, imo

    • @sunlitsonata6853
      @sunlitsonata6853 2 роки тому +4

      @@mitchmediak There’s a lot of ways RPGs like to pad out their runtime, even when many don’t have as much story to tell as Persona games

  • @CRedd9830
    @CRedd9830 3 роки тому +73

    No game has changed my life more than this masterpiece. This & Shining Force III will always be my two favorite games of all time.

    • @jmarx3943
      @jmarx3943 3 роки тому +2

      I always wanted to play both of these (especiallyshining force). Sadly, I never owned a Saturn.

    • @BrunoSantosTDL
      @BrunoSantosTDL 3 роки тому +5

      God damn, exactly my story! While I loved Panzer Dragoon Saga, SFIII remained my favorite game of all time. I played that game around 8 times.

    • @pedronicolau9246
      @pedronicolau9246 3 роки тому +6

      Ahh shining force III, first game that i bought with my own money and what a game it was, dont even now how many times i have played it, such underrated gem

  • @KarimJovian
    @KarimJovian 3 роки тому +201

    It makes me so said that SEGA failed and stopped making consoles. They are one of my favorite companies, I’m just happy they’re still around making games. God I love the Sega Saturn. Never gonna forget when my dad got it for us instead of the N64 because it was on sale with 3 free games. Best decision ever, I still have the system displayed ❤️

    • @Nyanlathonep
      @Nyanlathonep 3 роки тому +38

      thing is, sega in the 90's after the genesis is plagued with bad decisions and poor management from the company higher ups at the time, (hell, just look at the Sega CD and 32X, and they trying to juggle it all at the same time along with the Saturn) and it resulted in them not being able to compete with Sony and Nintendo, and the eventual death of the DC at the hands of the PS2. It's sad, yes, but most of it is their own fault.

    • @AxisChurchDevotee
      @AxisChurchDevotee 3 роки тому +1

      Sega I'd managed pretty badly.

    • @Clara_Page
      @Clara_Page 3 роки тому +4

      You could support Microsoft, the xbox line has a lot of Sega DNA.
      I can actually imagine Halo & Fable being Sega exclusives in an alternative time line.
      I switched to xbox because of its bloodline... Until I switched to ps4 for PSVR & I still feel like I've betrayed my gaming blood to this day :(

    • @vincenzomottola7778
      @vincenzomottola7778 3 роки тому +2

      @@Clara_Page you know what could be awesome? Sega Dreamcast backwards compatibility on Xbox Series X

    • @Clara_Page
      @Clara_Page 3 роки тому +1

      @@vincenzomottola7778 Totally, that would be amazing and would definitely help sway the console war in Microsoft's favor

  • @PaigeHankins28
    @PaigeHankins28 3 роки тому +90

    Matt uploading this even though he knows all the comments will be “OKAY SO CYBERPUNK”

    • @matthewmiskiewicz8357
      @matthewmiskiewicz8357 3 роки тому +11

      kinda hope this gets a lot of attention, certainly one of the most interesting yet heartbreaking wha happuns ive seen to date

  • @SchnappM
    @SchnappM 3 роки тому +44

    I don't know how you have the time to pump out these well-researched in-depth mini documentaries like once a week. Incredible work as always

  • @user-dv2hc8zt3o
    @user-dv2hc8zt3o 3 роки тому +41

    Probably the greatest video game that no one ever played...

    • @wwallo
      @wwallo 3 роки тому +1

      I did. ✓ All of them, including Orta and the recent Remake.

  • @thomasdalon8962
    @thomasdalon8962 3 роки тому +33

    For the european price: it is written in french "sans jeu", meaning "without the game". So it's 280euros (340$) for the box only... Let that sink in for a moment :)
    I'm so glad i played it at the time...wish i could play it again.

  • @ZeroDeMighty
    @ZeroDeMighty Рік тому +4

    honestly with how much ambition was poured into this game, Panzer Dragoon Saga deserves to be brought to modern consoles

  • @vintagevideogamenights2923
    @vintagevideogamenights2923 Рік тому +2

    From what I read, the code wasn't lost as in "misplaced", but as in "destroyed". According to a japanese article, the building housing the hard drives containing the games from that era was hit by an earthquake and caught on fire, destroying the original and the backup builds.

  • @inphanta
    @inphanta 3 роки тому +19

    I was extremely lucky to find a copy of this back in 2001. It cost nearly £100 then (I'm in the UK), but I knew I was never going to see it again so I went for it and it's worth WAAAY more than that now. And just as you say in this video, it's one of the best RPGs I've ever played which, in hindsight, should've been a Dreamcast launch game instead.
    A special mention must also go to the soundtrack, which is phenomenal.

  • @WilliamGMedinaGIO
    @WilliamGMedinaGIO 3 роки тому +18

    I love this game. Can't say "loved" because I still play it. I bought it on day one when it released here in the states. I was expecting a huge line at Funcoland at the mall here in GA. I showed up there early before they opened up because I wanted to beat the line I thought would be there. There was no line. Nobody camped out like I thought lol Dude who opened up that day came, opened up, I walked right in. I reserved it ahead of time. Nobody else was there. Dude was like "Yep, you're the only one reserving this game" I walked out of there amazed. lol Got home, played it non-stop, it was amazing. I'd never seen a game pull off what it had pulled off on the Saturn or even on the PSX (Which I didn't own I always played at friend's houses) First time beating the game I got 70%. Next time I played it I explored EVERYthing and everyplace in that game. Finally got 99.9% completed. Later I learned if you had the save data from Panzer Dragoon 1 and Zwei you could access Pandora's Box mode and that's how you get 100%. Once I found that out, I gave up and traded the game in, thinking "Well that's it, I beat the game as much as I could" The game's art direction was amazing, that whole series has amazing art direction, it still inspires me as an artist to this day to try and be as unique as I can with my art. I still play Panzer Dragoon Azel to this day on emulators on my PC on high resolution. Never get tired of that game. Really hope they make a remake. I'll buy it day one, first in line (or only one in line lol) just like I did back then :)

  • @CodyLee94
    @CodyLee94 3 роки тому +49

    So glad you covered this. It’s a complete masterpiece. I emulated it years ago and the experience has always stuck with me. Hope your video inspires people to play it. Saturn emulation works very well these days. Very well done video mate.

  • @sliphstream4927
    @sliphstream4927 3 роки тому +32

    I still have my Sega Saturn with the OG Panzer Dragoon. Good memories.

    • @theplayer2319
      @theplayer2319 3 роки тому +2

      Still have my 3 Sega Saturns and every games in the Panzer Dragoon series.

  • @samuelpratt1334
    @samuelpratt1334 3 роки тому +27

    This is one of my all time favorites. Such a tragedy it was lost to time.

  • @miltondelacruz7033
    @miltondelacruz7033 3 роки тому +30

    This is my favorite game of all time.

  • @TristanYeah
    @TristanYeah 3 роки тому +10

    I got up at 6am to get the bus into town to buy this on release day in 1998. Got what I thought was the next available bus back home but it only went as far as a few villages (about 10 miles) away from my home. Sat and waited for the next bus and read the manual cover-to-cover several times over. This will always be such a special game to me!

  • @citypopFM
    @citypopFM 3 роки тому +12

    I never clicked on a Matt McMuscles video so fast. I owned this game as a kid and I've felt nobody throughout my adolescence believed me when I regaled the tale of how phenomenal this game was.

  • @Binarokaro
    @Binarokaro 3 роки тому +21

    Jesus, usually these episodes amuses me to no end with developmental disasters and egotistical developers, but this episode just leaves me feeling so fucking hollow. Damn that was depressing as hell. The whole thing really was a tragedy.

  • @Not_Discount_CJ
    @Not_Discount_CJ 3 роки тому +8

    Man, I just want to give poor Yukio Futsugi a hug, that man really needs one.

  • @AntonioRodriguezSilver
    @AntonioRodriguezSilver 3 роки тому +14

    One of the best games I ever played. Thanks for covering it. I really regret selling it, but I was going through a rough spell and needed the money :(

  • @widdowson91
    @widdowson91 3 роки тому +17

    I luckily own one of those 1000 PAL copies. One of my favourites of all time.

    • @widdowson91
      @widdowson91 3 роки тому

      @@chinafox1949 I've heard it ranges anywhere from 1000-6000, but I haven't looked into it.

    • @chinafox1949
      @chinafox1949 3 роки тому +1

      @@widdowson91 I have data, I'm waiting on contact from Dave Nulty.

    • @andremarques4986
      @andremarques4986 3 роки тому

      @@chinafox1949 well I think so as well, what data do you have?
      Nulty confirmation if that 1000 was UK 1st run numbers would be great.
      I've seen this PAL game so many times that it's hard to believe the number is so low.

    • @leirdua1733
      @leirdua1733 3 роки тому

      Yeah, if there really only where a 1000 copies of the PAL version, there wouldnt be a constant flow of copies on ebay, and the price would be MUCH higher than it is

    • @ketch2501
      @ketch2501 3 роки тому +1

      I remember buying this game when it came out just by strolling in a random video games shop in the vicinity of Toulouse in France (so, not the biggest shop, and not the biggest town either). If there had been only 1000 copies for all Europe, I can hardly imagine I would have found it so easily or I'm extremely lucky. Still got it in mint condition BTW. One of my favourite games (and game franchises) of all time.

  • @VampireBatLord
    @VampireBatLord 3 роки тому +61

    Me summarizing it to a bud; "imagine starfox: but on a dragon!"

    • @MrNopehaha
      @MrNopehaha 2 роки тому

      That's a stupid analogy, not even close, not even in the same ballpark. The adventure will go with me to the grave, it's with me forever and I love it.

    • @alexaliennerd3990
      @alexaliennerd3990 2 роки тому +2

      Panzer 1, 2 and Orta are like that but Saga is an entirely different beast

  • @ufofighter16
    @ufofighter16 3 роки тому +30

    Dude, I'd play a Virtua Cop RPG

    • @Renovence
      @Renovence 3 роки тому

      I'd play a Virtua Fighter RPG-wait, no I wouldn't...............

  • @enriquejoseantequerasanche6180
    @enriquejoseantequerasanche6180 3 роки тому +20

    Matt, I have another forgotten Sega game that was really awesome and I've never seen again. Ever heard of "Story of Thor", known in America as "Beyond Oasis"? It was a cool action-RPG in the vein of Zelda, where you had a variety of attacks that made it feel like a beat'em up and the main mechanic was how you could summon spirits as NPCs to help you in battle and puzzle solving. It was fucking awesome all around, with great music and gameplay (graphics were kinda pixel-y with a few anime-styled characters but shined here and there, like in the bracelet designs) that spawned a sequel in Saturn then dissapeared.
    I loved this game,could you check out what happened?

    • @metronome8471
      @metronome8471 3 роки тому +2

      The sequel on the saturn even had two player co op

    • @jmarx3943
      @jmarx3943 3 роки тому +1

      If I remember correctly, Yuzo Koshiro made the soundtrack to beyond oasis and its sequel. It also had some of the same sound effects as streets of rage.

    • @drunkensailor112
      @drunkensailor112 3 роки тому

      It received an amazing sequel on the saturn called story of thor 2

    • @joshcope9485
      @joshcope9485 3 місяці тому

      Yo, beyond oasis was so fun and looked great for the time! I wasn't aware of a sequel tho, must find that

  • @Norskolld
    @Norskolld 3 роки тому +8

    I have my Japanese copy in my collection still, however a friend picked up a sealed PAL copy back around 2010 from a second hand store that didn't know what they had. Cost him less than $15. I'm still jealous.

  • @kholdkhaos64ray11
    @kholdkhaos64ray11 3 роки тому +30

    REALLY wanna play this whole series but I only really have access to Panzer Dragoon Remake right now sadly 😔

    • @godofmediocrity7582
      @godofmediocrity7582 3 роки тому +7

      Get an Xbox system and play Orta. It includes the original game (Albiet the PC version, which isn’t a bad thing at all) as a bonus when you beat the game.

    • @nolankanski9116
      @nolankanski9116 3 роки тому +5

      Well, do you have a PC that can run emulators? There's always emulators. In particular, Mednafen, a multi system emulator, has had recent breakthroughs in Saturn emulation, and I've heard it runs really well now.

    • @RobsonRoverRepair
      @RobsonRoverRepair 3 роки тому +2

      Remake is garbage compared to the original, the controls ruin the game.

    • @86chaz86
      @86chaz86 3 роки тому +1

      You can switch to classic controls, at least on PC. It's the first thing I did.

  • @notturok7841
    @notturok7841 2 роки тому +2

    If you think about it. In the first two you are in the center of all these enemies flying around at different angles trying to hit you. But in the saga you are now in the perspective of the enemies and the enemies are in the center as you fly around them trying to avoid attacks and out play them. Amazing games and beautiful graphics, they still blow my mind.

  • @Blurgleflargle
    @Blurgleflargle 3 роки тому +21

    The girls name is not Nvidia Ansel. It's Azel, like Azazel, but with one less az.

  • @stormwatcheagle5448
    @stormwatcheagle5448 3 роки тому +7

    Ok but Virtua Cop RPG would be AMAZING

  • @renegade5fury
    @renegade5fury 3 роки тому +12

    Saga is the greatest rpg of all-time, imo. It's a true masterpiece, so I'm always hoping that one day it gets a proper remake, or at least a remaster, for others to experience.

  • @TheHorrorGeek
    @TheHorrorGeek 3 роки тому +11

    I own a copy of this gem (I lucked into a lot with all of the rare Saturn RPGs -- minus Shining Wisdom -- back around 2000. Steal of a lifetime in retrospect) and while generally collectors like things to stay rare for the value increase (irrelevant to me -- I'll never sell my collection anyway), this is one where I think it would be way better if people could actually experience it. Unlike so many of the rare pricey games, this one's actually really good.

  • @Erdenichtspricht
    @Erdenichtspricht 3 роки тому +7

    Always happy to see such a fantastic game get the recognition it deserves. My brother got it when we were kids and I had no idea at the time how rare the game was, even at launch!
    That aside, HER NAME IS "AZEL", there's no n! D:

  • @rudidellama3718
    @rudidellama3718 3 роки тому +4

    About emulation, is totally playable, I used SSF emulator like 6 or 7 years ago to play Saga and was just fine, I had only one crash against one of the bosses and the ending sequence didn't work (you can just watch online really)

  • @ratchetxtreme6591
    @ratchetxtreme6591 3 роки тому +16

    It's pretty sad when truly great games don't do well due to being either being released on not a good time to be successful or being on a console that nobody in that period cared for .

  • @pastelshoal
    @pastelshoal 3 роки тому +8

    This game is incredible and I implore anyone interested to download an emulator and give it a go! If you have a Saturn, there are also ways to run burned discs of it.
    Beyond the technical feats this video details, Saga really did something interesting with the story. It does break the RPG mold of a party of young adventurers starting from nothing. The antagonists in this game are unclear and there's a lot of moral ambiguity of all the characters. Finally, it's far from just a damsel in distress type storyline, and that bit gets dropped rather quickly. I was actually quite impressed with the direction they took everything. Absolutely one of the best games ever made, even revisiting it today. I did not grow up with this game and I was still blown away.

  • @stephenkelley1059
    @stephenkelley1059 3 роки тому +4

    I first heard of Panzer Dragoon 10 years ago and fell in love with the series instantly. My copy of Saga cost an arm and a leg, but I truly adore it and the rest of the series and pray that a proper series revival of collection will happen one day.

  • @NaviciaAbbot
    @NaviciaAbbot 2 роки тому +4

    "Saturn is notoriously hard to emulate" is a myth now. In this day and age, Mednafen has become the best Saturn emulator. It's a part of RetroArch as "Beetle Saturn", though, I don't think it's quite up to date.

  • @thanos9909
    @thanos9909 3 роки тому +5

    I actually own a physical copy of Panzer Dragoon Saga. I swear it’s the game that makes the saturn as good as the ps1.

  • @MstreEnsin
    @MstreEnsin 3 роки тому +4

    The non complete version mentionned at 18:38 specifies "sans jeu" which means "without game", It is litterally 300 bucks for an empty box.

  • @thedonofthsht76-58
    @thedonofthsht76-58 3 роки тому

    I love this series. I look forward to it every weekend. Know it takes lots of work so thanks for the awesome vids!👊

  • @Paulomedi
    @Paulomedi 3 роки тому +5

    Best game I ever played. I still have a sense of longing and sadness to Edge's journey to this day.

  • @FakeAnarchist
    @FakeAnarchist 3 роки тому +5

    Hearing about a lost masterpiece I never even knew existed before was really inspiring to hear! especially if you're someone who's trying to create some type of art yourself.

  • @Momo_Mori
    @Momo_Mori 3 роки тому +6

    The What Happened i didn't know i needed! One of the greatest rpgs i've every played. Orta was fantastic as well. Shame it seems like we'll never get another one. Interesting note: Smile Bit also worked on Jet Set Radio and Gun Valkyrie!

  • @unknownuser3926
    @unknownuser3926 3 роки тому +57

    I can't wait for the Wha' Happen of Cyberpunk 2077, which sounds like absolute development hell for the devs and complete mismanagement. CDPR might even face legal action by investors.

    • @pachinkor83
      @pachinkor83 3 роки тому +17

      Indeed, I think a "wha' Happen to Cyberpunk 2077" will be a great video.... maybe a year from now. I think it's been covered enough for the time being by current media that we all kind of know about its current state. Months from now after some patches ? maybe it'll be better , maybe it won't. Could make for a solid video though.

    • @asnierkishcowboy
      @asnierkishcowboy 3 роки тому

      @@pachinkor83 I dont think the PS4 version will ever be glitchfree and at the same time look as satisfying as promised.

    • @pachinkor83
      @pachinkor83 3 роки тому

      @@asnierkishcowboy yeah it's never going to look good. Hopefully it at least becomes playable.

  • @Cableguy15
    @Cableguy15 11 місяців тому +3

    I admit to not being an RPG guy, so maybe I'm just out of the loop... but I can't believe no one ever tried to copy or were at least somewhat inspired by the battle system in this game. It flows so well and on top of that, I don't think its full potential has been tapped. I had a great time playing Saga. By the end, I was sad that there weren't any sequels and that so few have played it. Maybe someday, it'll get a remake and get the love that it deserves. Hell, same goes for the whole series!

  • @TheMaskedDefective
    @TheMaskedDefective 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Matt!!!
    Before I moved from the UK, a place I worked at had a mint copy. I got to hold it and then, I was the one who sold it. A guy bought it for £550. It was great to see such an awesome piece of gaming history.

  • @Kernog
    @Kernog 3 роки тому +6

    One of my favourite RPGs. I was lucky enough to get a physical copy, and I played it countless times, even if I did not understand everything (it was way before I become fluent in english).
    Great story and art, great music. Maybe a little too simple and short, but all in all a memorable experience.

    • @Kernog
      @Kernog 3 роки тому

      ​@@juststatedtheobvious9633 The story was more than okay. Just kind of short for its four discs. It's just that you're not really fighting against God or Satan like in classic RPGs. The final boss is closer to Gyigas from Mother, in that they are the final obstacle and the one who initiated the global plot, but they are not the main opposing force of the story. You go along with Edge's quest for revenge, and little by little you realize that the dragon (or rather the Divine Visitor) chose Edge, because his quest would bring you close to the Tower, and the dragon's objective.

  • @Incubusnut
    @Incubusnut 2 роки тому +1

    @Matt McMuscles Your videos are fantastic. Keep up the great work!

  • @WanderingMindSR
    @WanderingMindSR 3 роки тому +4

    I felt emotional watching this. Thank you for telling the development story of Panzer Dragoon Saga on this channel.

  • @zachzach5398
    @zachzach5398 3 роки тому

    Just recently found your channel through the wcw video a couple days ago. Been binging your vids since. Keep it up man i love this stuff

  • @Wishmaster65
    @Wishmaster65 3 роки тому

    Fantastic documentary. Thanks for the upload.

  • @Deadpool3E
    @Deadpool3E 3 роки тому +35

    Azel. There's no "n" in the name.

    • @NintenDub
      @NintenDub 3 роки тому +3

      Anzel Anzel.I was about to punch him in the face

  • @joeyxnoir8579
    @joeyxnoir8579 3 роки тому +3

    that xperts bit with the monotone bassline with the scream... amazing lmao

  • @Unquestionable
    @Unquestionable 3 роки тому +2

    I remember when it first came out it was a curiosity for me, never being a Saturn owner but an avid RPG fan who had a passing interest having played the first two titles at a friend's place. These days it's near the top of my list of titles that would be part of my dream gaming collection.

  • @venomspike8803
    @venomspike8803 3 роки тому +4

    Gaming’s greatest, most underrated & unknown classic.

  • @zuthell
    @zuthell 3 роки тому +1

    I was one of the few lucky people who managed to experience this game, and I'm so glad I did. I will say, without the shadow of a doubt, that it was one of the most incredible experiences I ever had with an RPG and it changed me forever. As a teenager, this unique aesthetic, this whisical world filled with imaginative beasts and graphics, and long cinematics, it truly blew my mind.
    Nowadays I word as a comic artist and illustrator, and I always cite this game as one of my main inspirations for loving to draw fantasy stories and settings as much as I do. Futatsugi and the team really created something special and unique, and I can say that it was a lasting impact for me!

  • @danimorgan3085
    @danimorgan3085 3 роки тому +11

    I was always wondering why Max starting loving this game. And then Matt said it. Started on the Saturn lol

  • @alexcordova3311
    @alexcordova3311 3 роки тому

    Good work brother, keep em coming

  • @pachinkor83
    @pachinkor83 3 роки тому +8

    Down the road another "feel good" followup video to this could be the closest thing to a spiritual successor this game ever got - Skies of Arcadia. It sure would be nice if Sega could appreciate it's back catalog beyond their arcade output and sega genesis some day ...

  • @yoshikagekira3923
    @yoshikagekira3923 3 роки тому

    Great video dude!!

  • @Boneworm852
    @Boneworm852 3 роки тому

    Only ever played the original once but that atmosphere made it stay with me forever. Thanks for covering the series!
    We're gonna need a Space Ghost Wha Happun now.

  • @Altair718
    @Altair718 3 роки тому +2

    Years ago, I tried a bit of PDS on my friend's Saturn. While I was pretty interested in it, I never actually got too far. Methinks I should rectify that.

  • @ourdivinemouseoverlord3308
    @ourdivinemouseoverlord3308 3 роки тому +13

    I'd like to see a What Happened? for Megaman Soccer. I mean, the game doesn't even have an ending.

    • @royaldayz18
      @royaldayz18 3 роки тому +1

      It actually does have an ending (intended to unlock Wily as playable as well) but it's accidentally unused.

    • @Calvin_Coolage
      @Calvin_Coolage 3 роки тому +2

      That's less a 'Wha' Happun?'and more of a 'Tha' Hapun?'

    • @LordArikado
      @LordArikado 3 роки тому +1

      @@Calvin_Coolage Or maybe a "Why Happun?"

  • @rev0lve638
    @rev0lve638 3 роки тому +6

    I've played/seen about 13% of the content you cover, and yet I'm here every time

  • @RedJester68
    @RedJester68 3 роки тому +4

    This is tragic. I’ve wanted to play this game for years because I’ve heard of how incredibly rare it is and how cool it looks but heading the full story makes it even sadder.

  • @TeslaChad
    @TeslaChad 3 роки тому +4

    I've heard this story a handful of times but it still never ceases to make me depressed.

    • @TeslaChad
      @TeslaChad 3 роки тому +2

      I mean....like....more than I already am

  • @starlimitz2
    @starlimitz2 3 роки тому +3

    The Sega Saturn is a fantastic machine! We are fortunate to have experienced it!

  • @kaindracula2662
    @kaindracula2662 3 роки тому +7

    I love Saga, arguably my fav game ever. Still own it (uk version btw) and the Saturn and as I have a good pc have dumped the discs and can emulate it in high resolution and good frame rate.

  • @havokmusicinc
    @havokmusicinc 3 роки тому +1

    Great games. Awesome soundtracks in particular. Haven't thought about this series in forever

  • @flobbergassy
    @flobbergassy 3 роки тому

    Get so stoked when I see new content.

  • @Yuuretsu
    @Yuuretsu 3 роки тому

    I have to admit that I've never finished the game in its entirety, but it continues to fascinate me everytime I see it. I'm happy to see so much devotion, innovation and creativity put into a game people hold in such high regard. Those who have played it at least. All other things aside the idea of a Virtua Cop RPG had me seriosuly hyped for a moment. It reminds me a bit of Snatcher SD on the MSX.

  • @kananchan7995
    @kananchan7995 3 роки тому +3

    Kinda surprised that You did a video on this game. Best RPG on saturn IMO

  • @daviddobarganes9115
    @daviddobarganes9115 3 роки тому +1

    Working at a buy sell trade store in the early 2000s, I always wondered what the big deal was. Thanks!

  • @MARK111174
    @MARK111174 9 місяців тому +2

    Just finished this masterpiece and really enjoyed it

  • @antonpreacher2900
    @antonpreacher2900 3 роки тому +1

    Great video :) got me all nostalgic for that wonderful game. A friend and I played it on his Saturn when we were teenagers (he is one of the lucky guys who got a Panzer Dragoon Saga Europe copy). What a gaem ! Please Sega remake this one :(

  • @UnknownFlyingPancake
    @UnknownFlyingPancake 3 роки тому +5

    How interesting. Makes me think that maybe an episode on the Shining Force series would be interesting as well.

  • @Michaeljack81sk
    @Michaeljack81sk 3 роки тому +1

    I picked my up in a local newsagent that sold games on the side and had no idea it was even rare at the time. Loved every minute of it

  • @horizon92lee
    @horizon92lee 3 роки тому

    Orta was my fav growing up, the atmosphere, dragon designs, really awesome

  • @darkace1740
    @darkace1740 3 роки тому

    I love your Videos Matt you rock!

  • @brandonsutton3714
    @brandonsutton3714 3 роки тому

    Man I still have my Saturn and absolutely loved it, and while I was kind of trash at Panzer Dragoon, I was always totally captured by the world and design. I completely forgot they even made the RPG. Really appreciate the video!

  • @BocookGaming
    @BocookGaming 3 роки тому

    This is one I sadly missed out on as a kid, but man, I'd love to see it come back with a fantastic remake treatment. Orta was the first game in the series I owned (but I seem to recall playing the original, or maybe 2, at a Saturn kiosk at, like, a Target) and was immediately taken in by it. Hell, I even played the Crimson Dragon game that released for Windows Phone 7 years ago and loving *it*. The design, the world, the music, they're all incredible and wonderful and so far out of this world that they were simply enrapturing.
    I didn't know Futatsugi was working on The Good Life. That genuinely makes me even more interested in that one.

  • @Thanatos9029
    @Thanatos9029 3 роки тому +1

    I barely knew anything about the Panzer Dragoon series other than it was widely loved. I can see why now from this video, and now I really want to play it.

  • @Bloodylaser
    @Bloodylaser 3 роки тому +1

    Panzer Dragoon Saga was Sega’a first RPG game from another series. I would love to play it and they did an RPG for Yakuza of course and did a great job with that.

  • @mathewcarnaby
    @mathewcarnaby 3 роки тому

    This is one of my absolute favourite games that has stuck with me from the start. So treasured in my collection and I still love to play it time to time. There's nothing quite like it. I hope they revive it.

  • @brandonhartman6065
    @brandonhartman6065 3 роки тому

    You've done great work here. I'm curious what you can do for Mercenaries 2, there was a developer vlog series with skits and a man literally getting SHOT IN THE ASS to capture the perfect sound as the crux of the story. I miss Pandemic Studios.

  • @OtakuFREEMAN
    @OtakuFREEMAN 21 день тому +1

    Such a beautiful and legendary game/series! Pure ♥!

  • @JMon618
    @JMon618 3 роки тому

    I love and still have this game. I even love that the guys that worked on the Panzer Dragoon remake gave me praise for my support towards the remake that they told me that they’re working on Zwei. So I’m hoping Saga follows suit. I’m not getting my hopes up but I’m just grateful they told me zwei is up next.

  • @JBob08
    @JBob08 2 роки тому

    I hope the people that worked so hard on these games stumble across videos like this and know they are appreciated in retrospect. I can't imagine how disappointing it would be to put so much of yourself into a game, only for it to be forgotten.

  • @wolfgangervin2582
    @wolfgangervin2582 3 роки тому +1

    Ahh, my crown jewel. Also tied with Kirby for my favorite game series ever. I've never seen a setting quite like it anywhere.