Ninja Gaiden 3 - What Happened?

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  • Опубліковано 28 лис 2024

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  • @MagCynic
    @MagCynic 4 роки тому +570

    You know you're getting old when a video about Ninja Gaiden 3 isn't even about the Ninja Gaiden 3 you remember.

    • @Gideon13397
      @Gideon13397 4 роки тому +8

      I didn't even have Ninja Gaiden 3

    • @oluwarotimi_98
      @oluwarotimi_98 4 роки тому +20

      @@Gideon13397 same I played the demo and was so disappointed I never tried the full game

    • @Josh-tf9cr
      @Josh-tf9cr 3 роки тому +7

      Boomer

    • @Dog-999i
      @Dog-999i 3 роки тому +4

      The NES game would made a good Wha Happun episode.

    • @jasonroane2059
      @jasonroane2059 3 роки тому +3

      Spoken like a true fellow old head lol

  • @JTHMRulez1
    @JTHMRulez1 4 роки тому +1116

    If Dante managed to come back, Ryu can too.

    • @DemonicRemption
      @DemonicRemption 4 роки тому +15

      @Anarchist Edegelord
      Way to give this newcomer some hope....

    • @DrizzyEddie
      @DrizzyEddie 4 роки тому +63

      Ryu being in smash would help him

    • @DrizzyEddie
      @DrizzyEddie 4 роки тому +44

      @@valletas oof, you will be sleeping for a long time

    • @primal2020
      @primal2020 3 роки тому +30

      switch is getting the sigma trilogy, there is hope yet!

    • @unoriginalyoutubename8761
      @unoriginalyoutubename8761 3 роки тому +12

      @SpiteHook shit opinion

  • @thebestcentaur
    @thebestcentaur 4 роки тому +1140

    I guess now they're determining whether to keep this series dead or alive...
    *grabs coat and walks out*

  • @abbymems
    @abbymems 4 роки тому +777

    Shout-Out to all these "Western-appeal" based games having dialogue that fits the audience's reception to them.
    "You're out of your mind" "I overestimated you" "Not in a million years"

    • @abbymems
      @abbymems 4 роки тому +34

      @@dannydumlet Well damn. I've been thwarted. Let's say the girl from Gaiden 1 was just really perceptive about Ryu's future endeavors.

    • @bazzfromthebackground3696
      @bazzfromthebackground3696 4 роки тому

      I mean, if we didn't talk like that it might be jarring.

    • @RavenXeo
      @RavenXeo 4 роки тому +17

      @Amni Ony .....what?

    • @Thriving_in_Exile
      @Thriving_in_Exile 4 роки тому +11

      @Amni Ony
      You do know these were developed by _Japanese_ companies, right?
      Also, what's the relevance? Are you drunk?

    • @oluwarotimi_98
      @oluwarotimi_98 4 роки тому +2

      @@dannydumlet you liked 3 more than 1&2?

  • @epicjake354
    @epicjake354 4 роки тому +182

    I feel sad, because I really think Ninja Gaiden could have been a really good rival to DMC and Bayonetta.
    Honestly, Tecmo just makes me sad as a whole. I feel like they truly could have been one of the best video game companies of all time, up there with Capcom, Namco, Konami, or even Sega. They had a tight, fun fighting game in DOA, and a great Horror franchise in, Fatal Frame, not to mention Ninja Gaiden. But I feel they just took so many missteps over the years, tying themselves mainly to the Xbox for a whole decade, shifting all their focus on DOA’s costumes and sexual content over polishing the fighting and characters, etc.

    • @gentlguy1101
      @gentlguy1101 4 роки тому +18

      They were too much focused on their female characters and the musou series including the other IP musou series (what i mean "the other IP" is like one piece pirate warriors, hyrule warriors, fire emblem warriors etc. cause sorry bad english).

    • @Alice89chan
      @Alice89chan 4 роки тому +19

      I mean can you blame then when Gamers (TM) are willing to pay more for upskirt underage shots than anything else (DOA5 and 6 alone have made thousands of dollars on cosmetics alone)?
      P. S. I know most if not the entire cast of DOA is over 18. Based on most other games with cosmetics involved, the point still stands.

    • @epicjake354
      @epicjake354 4 роки тому +6

      I Know, but I still feel like that never should have been the focus of the series in the first place. If so, then I think the games would have a much better level of competitive success and reputation that they deserve.

    • @billyboleson2830
      @billyboleson2830 4 роки тому +33

      NG used to be a bigger rival to DMC then Bayo was. Sad it turned out this way

    • @CaptainKenway
      @CaptainKenway Рік тому +3

      @@Alice89chan Jealous roastoid detected. What people spend their money on is their business.

  • @dantheman9936
    @dantheman9936 4 роки тому +701

    Not sure if this qualifies, but a Dino Crisis 3 Wha Happun? would be very interesting

    • @gruthakhul100
      @gruthakhul100 4 роки тому +8

      Is there a third one or was it in planning?

    • @dantheman9936
      @dantheman9936 4 роки тому +49

      There actually is! It’s an Xbox original, but it’s a mess

    • @victordossantos4452
      @victordossantos4452 4 роки тому +42

      Dude, DC3 is like the worst game sequence ever made by a game company, like OF ALL TIME, seriously.... I hope to see a wha happun episode of it someday

    • @personalspace6270
      @personalspace6270 4 роки тому +7

      Where is Dino Crisis 3 just make the real Dino Crisis 3 and lets act the other game never existed.

    • @gtsgreatteacherscathach5550
      @gtsgreatteacherscathach5550 4 роки тому +22

      @@gruthakhul100 there was a third one and it involved mutant Dinosaurs...IN SPACE!

  • @GenerationWest
    @GenerationWest 4 роки тому +631

    Where's Ryu now? Trying not be dead, but alive.
    (Damn, you included Drake's Fortune inbetween Bionic Commando and Fracture... Why you hurtin' me man)

    • @MattMcMuscles
      @MattMcMuscles  4 роки тому +157

      Haha, nothing is meant by it in terms of quality! Just showing how certain types of games were in vogue. And for big 3rd person shooter set piece thing? Uncharted fits right in.

    • @GenerationWest
      @GenerationWest 4 роки тому +42

      @@MattMcMuscles Ohhhh Yeah I get it, it fits that bill lol

    • @georgie9303
      @georgie9303 4 роки тому

      Because it’s generic as fuck. Last of us is more interesting than uncharted

    • @georgie9303
      @georgie9303 4 роки тому +2

      CasePB How is Last of Us a resident evil clone? You sound stupid as hell dude.

    • @Ravathiel
      @Ravathiel 4 роки тому +4

      @@CasepbX I don't recall fighting Lickers & finding a secret lab underground that ends in a big explosion.

  • @x.kalibre
    @x.kalibre 4 роки тому +87

    To be honest, Tecmo could've learned the whole "lower the difficulty, lose the fanbase" lesson with Capcom and their Devil May Cry 2 a few years before. It's not the game's only problem, but it was a huge letdown for fans. I still like it for what it is, but you can certainly see the decrease in quality when compared to the first Devil May Cry.

    • @x.kalibre
      @x.kalibre 3 роки тому +6

      @@RageUnchained it was a bit of a cash-cow sequel Capcom really wanted to pull :P I enjoyed playing DMC2 because I like the genre, but I was glad Capcom invested in quality rather than only financial gain for DM3 ^^

    • @armedweiss5531
      @armedweiss5531 Рік тому +3

      It wasn't just the reduced difficulty that was a problem for DMC2, it was so easy it was practically braindead on normal, and the simplified combat is far, far worse than the rest of the franchise. Not to mention multiple bosses that you can ONLY realistically damage with guns.

    • @x.kalibre
      @x.kalibre Рік тому +1

      @@armedweiss5531 if it was braindead on normal and the controls were simplified... that's all about difficulty! ^^ Jokes aside, it was an uninspired sequel indeed. I have no problems with bosses who can only be damaged by guns... if they're done right, which wasn't much of the case :P

    • @devilbringer1102
      @devilbringer1102 8 днів тому

      Using DMC 2 as an example is dumb considering that game is bad because it was literally put together in really little time do to changes in leadership and other development shenanigans, in other words DMC 2 was literally duck taped together at the last minute of it development

  • @QMarkMan
    @QMarkMan 3 роки тому +87

    Itagaki looks like a Japanese Tommy Wiseau.

    • @bificommander7472
      @bificommander7472 3 роки тому +17

      Oh hay-abusa.

    • @EarthGirlTerra
      @EarthGirlTerra 2 роки тому +2

      I did not abuse her, it's not true! It's bullshit! I did not abuse her! I did not!
      _Itagaki's defense speech_

    • @takischief3215
      @takischief3215 2 роки тому

      @@EarthGirlTerra oh hi Mark

  • @FoolyCoolyBlackLagoony
    @FoolyCoolyBlackLagoony 4 роки тому +234

    Gotta say, after Oatmeal Face, that Ninja Theory guy and Kamiya doing massive amounts of shit talking (only one of them being able to back it up at the time) its refreshing to see a developer of a hack and slash game have some humility.

    • @RandomBrick13
      @RandomBrick13 4 роки тому +3

      Oatmeal Face?

    • @VandalCabbage
      @VandalCabbage 4 роки тому +39

      @@RandomBrick13 Itagaki lol

    • @Melkac
      @Melkac 4 роки тому +44

      I mean, Kamiya CAN talk shit, he's earned it. He's like a japanese kanye.

    • @FoolyCoolyBlackLagoony
      @FoolyCoolyBlackLagoony 4 роки тому +23

      @@Melkac He's the one I meant could back up his big words, upon reflection, Oatmeal Face could also back up his shit talking at one point, but he's lost his touch these days.
      At least the NG3 director didn't swing his dick around before its launch then owned up to its flaws afterwards, Oatmeal said Devil's Third was THE shit then it was just shit.

    • @Aladelicous
      @Aladelicous 4 роки тому +4

      @@FoolyCoolyBlackLagoony eh, I hear Samurai Jack Battle thru time is pretty good and he's the supreme advisor on that.

  • @ManicDX10
    @ManicDX10 4 роки тому +63

    These games were batshit insane, and seemed completely non-selfaware of it, unlike bayonetta and DMC. Atleast Itagaki's version had the sense to focus on that gameplay over the crazy story and world, and 3 did everything but that. NG Black's multiple difficulties had so many changes between them, it was like a completely different game on each playthrough, until the Master Ninja difficulty broke me.

    • @sand9577
      @sand9577 2 роки тому +5

      Ah, another kindred spirit whose soul was crushed at the unrelenting mill that is Ninja Gaiden Black on Master Ninja.

    • @thekinghasnoname4858
      @thekinghasnoname4858 Рік тому +2

      Definitely want to check NG Black out. I'm revisiting all the hardcore hack'n slash I used to love back in the day but couldn't beat (in their normal difficulties). Nowadays I'm a very fast learner and love to master those types of games. But it'll take a while until I master DMC3 itself so I'll be patient until I revisit Ninja Gaiden as well.

    • @NotUnymous
      @NotUnymous Рік тому +2

      ​@@thekinghasnoname4858 have fun mate. NG black on Master was damn difficult but a blast non the less. :-)

  • @MrFutago87
    @MrFutago87 4 роки тому +42

    The one thing I remember most about NG3 is how the dev kept saying how Ryu was a dark Japanese hero without ever explaining what the hell that even meant.

    • @MrFutago87
      @MrFutago87 3 роки тому +16

      @Krueger Pool The 13th I don't know, humanizing Ryu is not the worst idea, they just didn't know how to actually do that. Hell, Metal Gear Rising basically had the same plot and they pulled it off.

    • @RakugaX
      @RakugaX 3 роки тому +15

      @@MrFutago87 And thats why Metal Gear Rising is the honorary Ninja Gaiden 3.

    • @stormysoup1083
      @stormysoup1083 Місяць тому

      @@MrFutago87he felt like a completely different guy in Ninja Gaiden 3, it was weird how sociable and downright fatherly they made him in that game

  • @Ch35h1r3C47
    @Ch35h1r3C47 4 роки тому +67

    Ninja Gaiden Black was hands down one of the best games I've ever played. The only thing holding it back from perfection is the god damn ghost fish.

    • @Ch35h1r3C47
      @Ch35h1r3C47 4 роки тому +4

      @@TexasHollowEarth Oh i played the game enough to figure out every counter strat, but they're still BS because they're not fun to fight or interesting.
      The best way to deal with them is homing wind dragon sword jump attacks. They can't attack while you're in the air and the landing frames keep you safe as well. Fire Wheels ninpo makes you safer as well.
      I still hate them.

    • @NihilisticIdealist
      @NihilisticIdealist 4 роки тому +7

      The ghost fish aren't that annoying. Just use the vigoorian flail. They become essence vending machines.

    • @Ch35h1r3C47
      @Ch35h1r3C47 4 роки тому +7

      @@cartoonvideos5 There's actually a small window at the end of the multi attack sequence where you're vulnerable and I've had ghost fish get through it during the attacks before as well.
      Either way, they're just not fun to fight, they have no moveset, require spam attack strategies and respawn for entirely too long.

    • @andrevaldez2810
      @andrevaldez2810 3 роки тому +1

      Ghost fish are ok compared to the worst camera i ever see and bullshit spamming grabs of some enemies and bosses

    • @Ch35h1r3C47
      @Ch35h1r3C47 3 роки тому +4

      @@andrevaldez2810 Honestly i never really had trouble with NGB camera, it's just about zoomed out enough, has a dedicated recentre button and it moves subtly towards enemies offscreen to let you know where they are and what direction they're attacking from.
      Add to that almost every enemy having well telegraphed audio for their offscreen attacks and it's not an issue.
      Having said that, it's true that during some tighter corridors it can get a bit awkward and you're right that some enemies (looking at you flame ninjas, Alma) are a bit too grab happy.

  • @blaflargasnogger7045
    @blaflargasnogger7045 4 роки тому +81

    The list of things cut from Ninja Gaiden 3 also includes the phrase “If you’re reading this, you have no life”
    Which... yeah, that’s fair.

  • @Clifjummper
    @Clifjummper 4 роки тому +64

    You know, it kind of ended pretty well. The developers actually acknowledged and learned from their mistakes. Good for them.

  • @z2ei
    @z2ei 4 роки тому +41

    Something I loved about Ninja Gaiden is that most of the changes that made it into Black were patched into the original game via the (free) Hurricane Packs. It's something I wish developers would do more often.

  • @yolomasta6940
    @yolomasta6940 4 роки тому +17

    Dead or Alive 6 hurt so bad as a die hard DOA fan, Koei Tecmo is like 2010 Capcom in terms of greed.

  • @Kowkarot
    @Kowkarot 4 роки тому +234

    "Inafune" + "appeal to the west" = bad news

    • @dvt1393
      @dvt1393 4 роки тому +37

      The fact that people every saw him as "visionary" or "auteur" comparable to Kojima or Miyamoto is mind boggling. He's always been a hack that takes credit for the work of others.

    • @avenge2168
      @avenge2168 4 роки тому +20

      Inafune the ultimate westaboo

    • @ashleythomas4112
      @ashleythomas4112 3 роки тому

      Not Shadow of Rome though, that was good.

  • @gentlguy1101
    @gentlguy1101 4 роки тому +41

    It's so sad that the Ninja Gaiden storyline got mixed with Dead Or Alive which there's less hope for a new Ninja Gaiden since we only get experience a new Ninja Gaiden story on a fighting game.

    • @cnhnx
      @cnhnx 4 роки тому +13

      Not really, other than Ayane helping Ryu in Ninja Gaiden and Ryu helping the Mugen-Tenshin in DOA there's no crossover in the story. We never see DOA main villain group mentioned in NG as well no NG villains like the fiends in DOA. Even the tone is very different in both, with DOA being mostly sci-fi (Tengu aside) while NG has mythical demons etc.

  • @boitahaki
    @boitahaki 3 роки тому +28

    5:34 "almost like you are watching a movie"
    Biggest red flag in a video game, ever.

    • @1Manhunt7
      @1Manhunt7 5 місяців тому

      they made cutscenes, they get a pass

  • @Personoflordlycalibur
    @Personoflordlycalibur 3 роки тому +44

    This literally got suggested to me after the HD collection was announced. Maybe ill finnaly play these games now

  • @fj60driver
    @fj60driver 4 роки тому +23

    Pie Chart is not accurate. Should be 90% blazingly painful fast game play, 4% story, 5% boob physics, 1% inaccuracies in pie charts.

  • @MayhemMessiah
    @MayhemMessiah 4 роки тому +53

    I will gladly die on the hill that Gaiden Black is still the purest, best made action game in terms of pure mechanics. Gaiden 2 was still fun, but mostly worse in every regard. And then 3 came out.

    • @dec2567
      @dec2567 4 роки тому +2

      Its definitely top 3 if not the best.

    • @pescando
      @pescando 4 роки тому +5

      Good man. You and I are kindred spirits MayhemMessiah

    • @Mentalbutsafe
      @Mentalbutsafe 4 роки тому +14

      Gaiden Black certainly has silky smooth mechanics and design, but the enemies never really did it for me and the environments were bland for a majority of the game. As well, Gaiden 2 is just such a blast to play and I remember its boss fights more fondly. Its like the Dead Rising 2 to Dead Rising: not as refined, but brings enough to the table to stand alongside the original. Gaiden 3 is just a travesty in every aspect, but I have a certain fondness for the concept of Yaiba, even though the game is a steaming pile of shit. I mean, c'mon, playing the antithesis to Ryu is too good of an idea, and I feel Miss Monday has a lot of potential as a heroine. If they had either a japanese team or a competent american team develop it, I feel it would at least been a nice diversion.

    • @MayhemMessiah
      @MayhemMessiah 4 роки тому +2

      @@Mentalbutsafe I quite prefer the relatively simple worlds of Gaiden. They never felt intrusive and felt pretty cohesive, even when you'd transition from a city to a firery cave or a giant undeground cavern. They were always set dressing. And I'll have to respectfully disagree that the enemies in 2 were better. Sure, some of the bosses were better than some of the more mundane ones in 1 (Remember the tentacle worm? I bet I've made you remember the tentalce worm! Nobody remembers his sorry ass). However, the standout bosses in 1 are just so much better than in 2. Alma 1 and 2 are still among my favorite boss fights, Doku's 2 fights as well are really memorable, and I'd probably say Mirai (Murai? Murabi? It's been so long) is one of the best made first bosses ever, with even games like the Souls series trying to capture the same feeling of him. And the general enemies in 2 I just wasn't a fan of. Everything had to be busy as hell and overdesigned. Instead of the simpler designs of 1 you had the weird spider robots or the mechs, and the game had a serious addiction to spamming projectile enemies from offscreen just to pump up the difficulty, which made the experience vastly worse, and ironically killed the level design for me when instead of liking the more varied locations all I could think about is how bad the camera was when I was blown to bits by rockets I couldn't see. And, to be honest, I feel like 2's main antagonist really really tried to replicate the feeling of fighting Evil/Fiend Ryu, as in a Ryu sized and shaped enemy that truly felt like an equal, but instead fell more towards the Murai side and didn't really quite hit the highs of either. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy 2, but I give Black- despite its flaws, which it does have- a 10/10 while 2 gets more of an 8/10. The biggest thing was that I dislike the enemy designs and encounters, even if I think 2 have better weapons in some regards.

    • @Mentalbutsafe
      @Mentalbutsafe 4 роки тому +1

      @@MayhemMessiah I respectfully disagree with you on some points, as most of the bosses after the first part of the game are fairly unremarkable/tedious (tanks, helicopters, worms, the same tentacle monster 3 times), save for the final boss, and I will forever stand by the fact that Alma is pure cancer (even masters at the game say they hate her; they don't say that about Mirai). Also, while the setting transitions were smoother, they were still really boring for the most part. Going from the exciting areas from the beginning of the game to the mundane historical city and caves, and then back to the city is always such a letdown. The end parts are marginally more interesting. I agree with you on the points of the common enemies, but I was more referring to their enhanced interactions. Its like Yahtzee Croshaw said, these enemies will not stop coming after you, even with half their limbs blown off. The main antagonist of 1 definitely was better though. Also, while 2's camera was worse, 1's was still bad. Finally, I despise the water level of 1 FAR more than 2's, so much so that it drops the game a full point in my book.
      tl;dr 1 is an 8.5/10 for me while 2 is an 8. Ninja Gaiden 3 should have taken the best parts from both games and trimmed the fat to make the best action game ever, but they fucked it up and now the series is dead. RIP.

  • @thefartofthecards759
    @thefartofthecards759 4 роки тому +26

    Honestly thought I would see Yaiba on here before I saw NG3. Always knew I'd see NG3 though.

  • @wodensthrone5215
    @wodensthrone5215 4 роки тому +47

    Wasn't there a recent leak on a website that showed Ninja Gaiden 1, 2 and 3 coming to current and next gen systems? I really hope they don't use the sigma versions of 1 and 2 and use razors edge for 3.

    • @Blackshroom
      @Blackshroom 4 роки тому +4

      Hope they include the classic nes titles as unlockables too

    • @Busterbalz
      @Busterbalz 4 роки тому +24

      You KNOW they're going to use the Sigma versions. Im pretty sure microsoft owns the rights to Black and vanilla 2, i think they helped fund their development. Sigma 1 is pretty decent, but Sigma 2 is fucking trash, for many more reasons than the removal of blood and gore.

    • @carelesscloud9816
      @carelesscloud9816 4 роки тому +4

      @@Busterbalz I have no issues with sigma 1(still prefer black) but Sigma 2? My. god. It was such a snore fest. They made the essence system obsolete with the way weapon upgrade works and the lesser number of enemies. Don't even get me started with the girls, they could have made them separate from the main campaign and with the way sigma 2 is, they are such a chore to play through. And contrary to what others think about the water combat, I actually like it : )

    • @jokerzwild00
      @jokerzwild00 4 роки тому +8

      @@cartoonvideos5 I could not care less about an Xbox, but I do want the best and most complete versions of these games. If those versions are not the ones that are coming then I think it's more than just "Xbox fanboys" that should be unhappy about it. In the long run though, Ninja Gaiden isn't exactly important enough to get all worked up about so... whatever.

    • @Melkac
      @Melkac 4 роки тому +3

      Yeah...I'm hoping they somehow add the features Black added back into the Sigma versions of 1 and 2.

  • @Skuntac
    @Skuntac 4 роки тому +12

    It was always a huge bummer that Tecmo never released the originals along side the sigmas, especially considering how rare Ninga Gaiden 3 is, and Ninja Gaiden Trilogy

  • @Rogerioapsandrade
    @Rogerioapsandrade 4 роки тому +12

    So ...Ninja Gaiden 3 is a game that had some hiccups during developmentand launch but ultimately did well enough financially.
    Maybe we should take a look at Yaiba in a future episode, if that's the game that really killed the franchise.

  • @jamcalx
    @jamcalx 4 роки тому +18

    I liked 3, but I admit Razor's Edge is an improvement. I refuse to even touch Yaiba.

    • @jamcalx
      @jamcalx 4 роки тому +2

      @@xXSupahXFlyXx exactly

    • @Sophie_the_Sapphic
      @Sophie_the_Sapphic 4 роки тому +7

      @@xXSupahXFlyXx it's DmC not DMC, otherwise it's hard to know which game you're talking about.

  • @egpNoodlez
    @egpNoodlez 4 роки тому +8

    Momiji eh? Now I know which of the Kunouchi series is Matt's favourite :)

  • @thecteam4395
    @thecteam4395 4 роки тому +5

    So, there is definitely truth in the whole "We need to sell sushi instead of Japanese Burgers", especially between NG and Nioh, but I feel I need to point a couple of things out.
    The attempt to appeal to the west started in NG1. Itagaki stated that that was one of the goals, and this is more obvious between the more western architecture and iconography, and unfortunate emphasis on bikini armor. It was not a new thing by the time NG3 was in development. Nioh was the first game I played of theirs that felt like "We're from Japan, here's some of our distinct mythology to explore." In fact, I found it refreshing, because a LOT of Japanese games (Final Fantasy, Devil May Cry and so on), tended to default to European/Christian influences. Nioh, on the other hand, really dives into Japanese myths, and it gave it a distinct look and feel.
    As for the "hard edged tone"... Okay. NG1 tried to be hard edged, but it suffered from a lot of tonal dissonance. It's a simple "kill demons" story, and any attempts at complexity and mystery were just laughable. Ryu doesn't really HAVE an arc besides getting more upgrades, Rachel's is hardly there, and the bikini armor made it REALLY hard to take anything seriously. This is trying its best to be an edgy revenge tale, with flying, man eating ghost fish and
    NG2 on the other hand knew what it was about. Demons invading the world, the villains are obvious and over-the-top, the music is a match and the out of place self seriousness is gone. It is a game about ninja duels on a falling airship before fighting a giant, fiery armadillo. Everything was consistently bonkers, and as a result was just more cohesive. The story beats (while still not very deep) felt more satisfying and beating the game has more of a "Hell yeah!" than the first game.
    The story of neither NG 1 nor 2 were properly edgy, but the story/cutscenes/music and set pieces of the second game were always more fun for me.

  • @Lav6019
    @Lav6019 4 роки тому +8

    I consider 2 to be the best in the franchise with the the most engaging combat. But i find myself playing razors edge more. To me the combat in it is more visceral and cathartic.

  • @iisanulquiorrahara8
    @iisanulquiorrahara8 4 роки тому +6

    From what I've seen in an interview (revolving Nioh 2), Hayashi would love to start work on a Ninja Gaiden 4, but Nioh 2's DLC takes top priority at the moment. It's definitely possible we'll get a new entry yet!

  • @zhero12345
    @zhero12345 4 роки тому +20

    how am I still awake? Thank you Matt, because now I have more reasons to not sleep for a bit

  • @propheci
    @propheci 4 роки тому +36

    Past is definitely prologue here, because og NG3 sucked back then, too. As a request for future videos:
    Grin/Fatshark's Bionic Commando franchise.
    Capcom's Dark Void.
    Dark Sector(makers of warframe?).

  • @Sakura_Matou
    @Sakura_Matou 4 роки тому +17

    The new Ninja Gaiden if they ever make one should bring back the Jaquio

  • @Dylan_Platt
    @Dylan_Platt 2 роки тому +5

    "Ballsy. Stupid, but ballsy."
    Ahh, I've finally found the other person who knows that Tom Arnold gave a masterpiece performance in True Lies.

  • @agentrevenge3370
    @agentrevenge3370 3 роки тому +8

    I don't play Ninja Gaiden for "drama" I play it for the high-speed crazy battle stuff.

  • @BatsuOhno
    @BatsuOhno 4 роки тому +39

    "If you're reading this, you have no life" Accurate.

    • @BatsuOhno
      @BatsuOhno 4 роки тому +7

      "bigger Ryu Buldge" "10% more gamer juice" "nude Momiji cheat code"

  • @casperHeyzeus
    @casperHeyzeus 4 роки тому +96

    I loved 2 and was excited to play this and hoo boy was it a stinker.

    • @arnox4554
      @arnox4554 4 роки тому +10

      Casuals will talk about Dark Souls being hard, but the real veterans will know Ninja Gaiden II was the real standard. Fucking hell, not even being an expert at Ninja Gaiden Black would save you that much from it. But through all the pain NGII caused me, I still love it, and there's never really been anything like it since.

    • @arnox4554
      @arnox4554 3 роки тому +1

      @@smugscylla4481 I know it was an overall downgrade for sure, but I don't know how they touched the difficulty of it.

  • @WestEndShinobi
    @WestEndShinobi 4 роки тому +16

    You should do a "What Happened? - Yaiba: Ninja Gaiden Z"

  • @thegoldenwaddledee
    @thegoldenwaddledee 4 роки тому +7

    I remember when I was going to Goodwill around 4 years back they had a massive stock of the Ninja Gaiden 3 statues that they were trying to sell for $2 each but no one seemed interested and so there was like 12 of them for some reason
    Also props for using the Naruto Ultimate Ninja OST man I remember having a blast with those on the PlayStation 2

  • @cdplus2339
    @cdplus2339 4 роки тому +6

    - Unearthed: Trail of Ibn Battuta
    - Fast and Furious Crossroads: Lack of Vinspiration

  • @Maveric
    @Maveric 4 роки тому +7

    I really loved NG2. Probably my favorite 360 game that wasn't called Halo. I distinctly remember getting my console in 2006 and I got to rent some ninja movies for free thanks to a promotion they had. Good times!

  • @chrisjepsen6824
    @chrisjepsen6824 4 роки тому +5

    Matt: Ninjas are mammals. . .
    Michaelangelo: Cowabunga it is. . .

  • @69KnightBlack
    @69KnightBlack 4 роки тому +6

    I don’t know if I’m just noticing it, but the new intro is lit 🔥

  • @Geno746
    @Geno746 4 роки тому +6

    I feel like now would be a good time for a new Ninja Gaiden. Hack n Slashes like DMC and Bayonetta are popular and difficult games like the Souls games people love. Nioh is really fun but I'd prefer a good and challenging hack n slash.

  • @KuronekoBonbon
    @KuronekoBonbon 4 роки тому +19

    For Halloween, it would be perfect to cover the tragic story behind Shadows of the Damned's development.
    I swear Matt, you won't be disappointed.

  • @Jetrulez15
    @Jetrulez15 4 роки тому +4

    We Happy Few is definitely deserving of a spot here on What Happened?. I was super excited about the game when it first came to early access and I was quite disappointed after I finished it.
    To be fair, it wasn't a COMPLETE shitstorm, but damn... it could have been so much better. Pretty sure it went through development hell for a couple years.

  • @Soulxstar
    @Soulxstar 2 роки тому +3

    "we're not going to offer you burger anymore but we're going to offer you a damn good sushi" has to be my favorite quote about owning what you're good at instead of copying what's popular

  • @kevincmejia
    @kevincmejia 4 роки тому +8

    Please Matt talk about CiNG as a developer, they made my favorite interactive novel/adventures back in the day but they went bankrupt
    Or talk about Shadows of the Damned

  • @UmbrellaSound
    @UmbrellaSound 4 роки тому +8

    No matter what, Itagaki looks cool af

  • @ant9027
    @ant9027 3 роки тому +2

    fun fact: ninja gaiden 3: razor's edge on wii u was the first R18+ game released in australia when it became a rating for games

  • @TheLaLeeee
    @TheLaLeeee 4 роки тому +5

    I remember trying it at a friends house, I kept button mashing while I walked out of the room with the controller and everyone was so impressed how I beat all the enemies without even seeing the tv.

  • @Valkian24
    @Valkian24 4 роки тому +12

    Excellent video as always. Although I heard another complaint about Ninja Gaiden 3 was a few scenes that involve Ryu tapping into a more darker side, which involved killing innocent people to progress in the story which felt very out of character for him and was later remedied in Razor's Edge.
    Sad this this franchise has been put on the shelf as I enjoyed Sigma (despite it's odd quirks from the original Xbox release) and even the one on the DS which I never got to finish, considering how hard it was xD

  • @samgott8689
    @samgott8689 4 роки тому +4

    Such a shame. I loved the originals as a kid, and played the crap out of the first 2 in the modern series, even landing in 12th place in the very first Master Ninja Tournament back when I was 17 or 18 (not quiet enough to earn the Master Ninja t-shirt....). Oh well, at least those two are always worth a revisit.

  • @DanielMight
    @DanielMight 4 роки тому +1

    I could've sworn he said WALUIGI was added to the game

  • @etinarcadiaego7424
    @etinarcadiaego7424 2 роки тому +3

    I'm not ashamed to say that the Ninja Gaiden is way to hard for me to even attempt. I've played Dark Souls 1,2, and 3 and Bloodborne but Nioh kicked my ass. I couldn't even kill the first boss. If one Team Ninja game is that brutal I can only imagine what the rest are like. Mad props to those that can master these games, seriously.

  • @michaelmarbach6250
    @michaelmarbach6250 4 роки тому +5

    Let’s hope that rumored Ninja Gaiden collection sparks some interest bringing the series back. They’re real good fun, even Razor’s Edge has its merits.

  • @terribletelevision6980
    @terribletelevision6980 4 роки тому +4

    Love your videos, mate! I have always wondered how you get so much information about each story. I would expect developers of most games you cover to be very tight lipped.
    Must be your silver tongue.
    Keep up the great work!

  • @manundermask6601
    @manundermask6601 4 роки тому +1

    My favorite thing ever in a Ninja Gaiden game was I think in Sigma 2, where you get to the long stone staircase and enemies just rush you as you ascend. I got to the top, turned around, and all of the carnage was still there. It was awesome.

  • @rawkfistgaming
    @rawkfistgaming 4 роки тому +3

    They have an opportunity to really draw in fans from all eras by using the gameplay of the newer NG2, but with the story of the original NES trilogy.

  • @Imamobile
    @Imamobile 4 роки тому +8

    Devil May Cry 2 and The Order 1886 for future episodes!

  • @PKWhopper
    @PKWhopper 4 роки тому +3

    KT is actually interested in doing a new NG but once Nioh 2 was finished. Here's to hoping a announcement pops at TGS

  • @FunnelCakeRyan
    @FunnelCakeRyan 2 роки тому +1

    Real Ultimate Power was an integral part of my college experience. Your reference to it sent a wave of nostalgia through me that I wasn't ready for. :D

  • @azahias9
    @azahias9 4 роки тому +3

    As a die hard Hayabusa Clan supporter, I remember the first version of 3 made me feel nauseous as I completed my first run through in just a couple of hours. It was mind numbing 😑

  • @EarthGirlTerra
    @EarthGirlTerra 2 роки тому +5

    Cursed: Ryu running like a narutard
    Blessed: My homegirl Momiji being acknowledged
    Blursed: Itagaki looking like the Tommy Wiseau of video game designers. *"Oh hi, Matt!"*

  • @chainsawbill
    @chainsawbill 4 роки тому +4

    That quote about a Japanese hamburger is really smart.

  • @MrBrawler16
    @MrBrawler16 4 роки тому +7

    Okay good im glad its not just me that likes Razor's Edge.

  • @fredinator85
    @fredinator85 4 роки тому +20

    need fatal frame remasters for switch or any platform ... just give me

    • @fredinator85
      @fredinator85 4 роки тому

      @@jjcoola998 does Fatal Frame 5 work too? That used the wii u pad as a camera and I cant imagine how thats gonna work in an emulator

  • @Ali-fs7ze
    @Ali-fs7ze 4 роки тому +1

    This is just sad man. It was DMC, Ninja Gaiden, and God Hand. Nothing even comes close, and two of those are just... dead. This fucking sucks.

  • @boredstudent
    @boredstudent 3 роки тому +8

    Ninja Gaiden and Dead or Alive wasn't the same without Itagaki. He was the heart and soul of those games. Dead or Alive became more fan service than game. And of course Ninja Gaiden III was...what it was.

  • @KryptKicker5
    @KryptKicker5 4 роки тому +2

    Now we know Matt was the real identity of the guy behind "Ask A Ninja"

  • @drew1429
    @drew1429 4 роки тому +11

    I could not agree with you more about Momiji, Matt XD
    Love her dearly. But I like Ayane a lot too

    • @songohan3321
      @songohan3321 4 роки тому +3

      I am so glad to have found other Momiji fans.

  • @solidante8365
    @solidante8365 4 роки тому +1

    Alright.
    Ninja Gaiden 4.
    You need 3 recipes :
    - Doom 2016 like story, and when I say that I mean the WAY THEY DID IT, it means the fewest possible, with the lore in codex or whatever.
    - DMC like cinematics (Without the goofy stuff, just action scenes mostly)
    - Mix all past gameplay systems (Ultimate move NG2 system with orbs absorbing, counter NG3 system) with on the fly weapon switching.
    All right, we have 80% of game.
    Now, put two difficulties : Casual and Normal.
    Casual : Easier combos, not heavy damage, camera close ups for ultimate moves and moves like Izuna drops, etc. Make it eye candy.
    Normal : Ninja Gaiden "normal" difficulty. FOR FANS.
    GIVE THE PLAYER THE CHOICE.
    With what you did with Nioh, you have now enough content to do a come-back.
    Capcom brought back wacky woohoo pizza man, you can bring back tight black leather suit dragon ninja man.

  • @Prince-Shogun
    @Prince-Shogun 4 роки тому +3

    It's been awhile since I watched your channel! But I'm glad you covered this game! It was hell for me to enjoy!

  • @Noperare
    @Noperare 4 роки тому +1

    I liked Yaiba. I feel that game biggest mistake was including "Ninja gaiden" on the title. Considering the focus on zombies; simplified combat with focus in using enemy body parts as weapon; the change on artstyle; vulgar humour and overall tone, they are not bad on itself, it just don´t work for hardcore NG fans. Yaiba is one of those cases where brand recognition cause more harm than good. If it was a new IP I think it would be accept as a small game.

  • @ManinTidyWhities
    @ManinTidyWhities 4 роки тому +3

    13:30 Sadly Rachel gets no love in that list

  • @peterf9006
    @peterf9006 4 роки тому +2

    Should have mentioned the amount weapons and Ninpo from 2 compared to 3. Vanilla 3 launched with ONE, yes, ONE weapon and one ninpo, no charge moves, etc. It was completely and utterly gutted compared to NG2.

  • @protozoalord
    @protozoalord 4 роки тому +3

    While story heavy stuff doesn't work great in the games, I would love if they did a tie-in anime or comic for Ninja Gaiden. Something like the DMC anime would be great.

    • @MILDMONSTER1234
      @MILDMONSTER1234 3 роки тому

      There actually is a Ninja Gaiden ova

    • @protozoalord
      @protozoalord 3 роки тому

      @@MILDMONSTER1234 oh i know, im a huge fan of it. Im talking about something new, though.

  • @traviscooper2205
    @traviscooper2205 4 роки тому +2

    As a Wii U player, this was the first of the newer Ninja Gaiden games I got to play. I REALLY enjoyed it, but could not get past the last boss.

  • @natelecarde962
    @natelecarde962 4 роки тому +42

    Tbf the Devil May Cry "reboot" wasn't a bad game, it was just unnecessary.

    • @floatsmcgarnagle8884
      @floatsmcgarnagle8884 4 роки тому +11

      I’ll go ahead and say it was decent.

    • @YannMetalhead
      @YannMetalhead 4 роки тому +9

      I like DMC a lot. I think about it like a DMC game that's take place in a alternate universe, so the changes doesn't bother me.

    • @mixltv143
      @mixltv143 4 роки тому +4

      DMC reboot is a fun game not a fun devil may cry game tho

  • @STHUltra
    @STHUltra 4 роки тому +19

    Will you ever consider doing a wha happun episode on “Spider-Man: Turn of the Dark” the broadway show that caused a lot of injuries to the actors?

    • @Guitar-Dog
      @Guitar-Dog 4 роки тому

      I'm going to look into that, thanks

    • @ryanmumford5534
      @ryanmumford5534 4 роки тому

      Let me know what you find

    • @carlclo2988
      @carlclo2988 4 роки тому

      I’d recommend watching Wait in the Wing’s video on it.

    • @Guitar-Dog
      @Guitar-Dog 4 роки тому

      @@carlclo2988 thanks, when I said look into it earlier ^^^
      I meant wait for someone to send me a link

    • @carlclo2988
      @carlclo2988 4 роки тому

      Guitar Dog Okay here you go: ua-cam.com/video/j6bxB9vTToQ/v-deo.html

  • @radiantstar3244
    @radiantstar3244 4 роки тому +5

    After the Nioh games, i do have faith in them to make another great Ninja Gaiden game, even without Itagaki.

  • @johnquach8821
    @johnquach8821 4 роки тому +1

    What happened: EA Madden post-2012 (maybe EA in general)
    What Keeps Happening: Yandere Simulator (Developer keeps getting stuck in scandal and can't code well)
    What happened: Castlevania post Lords of Shadow 2 (that seems to have killed the franchise until the Netflix Castlevania saved it)

  • @d.c.stranded7134
    @d.c.stranded7134 4 роки тому +4

    I never played Ninja Gaiden 3 but I do remember playing the demo for it and thinking "this ain't right" and then I remember playing the demo for Razor's Edge afterwards thinking "ah this much better." The demos are based around the first missions of the game so it's like right out of the gate you can tell how much better one is than the other.

  • @hatrickswayze4888
    @hatrickswayze4888 4 роки тому +1

    Really, there shouldn't have even been any sequels after the original.
    For all intents and purposes: Ryu was essentially ninja Crow. With his mission complete, he should've been able to pass on to the afterlife with the rest of his clan. The sequels cheapen it (for me).
    If there needed to be sequels, Team Ninja could've easily developed a sequel on Ryu's father, Joe... Whom, during the events of Gaiden would've still been alive and sound in the wilderness in his pursuit of power.

  • @DISC0_DAZZLER
    @DISC0_DAZZLER 4 роки тому +6

    I’d be interested in seeing you do one on Jak: The Lost Frontier

  • @ToshisGarden
    @ToshisGarden 4 роки тому +1

    You could do a Viewtiful Joe video, discussing how both of the first games promised a third game (the second one's ending believed to have been tying right into the start of said third game), and yet all we got was a Smash drop-off, a DS pseudo-sequel, and an anime!

    • @LordArikado
      @LordArikado 3 роки тому

      An anime whose second season never made it out of Japan and never got a complete home release, making it one of the most stupidly hard to watch anime series out there.

  • @Adu767
    @Adu767 3 роки тому +6

    Whenever a Japanese developer makes something with the intent to "appeal to western audiences" they really show how low their opinion of that demographic is.

    • @EarthGirlTerra
      @EarthGirlTerra 2 роки тому +1

      Not really. Itagaki tried to capitalize on how movies were made in the early 2000s. Problem is he threw the Japanese audience under the bus just to appeal to Westerners and make top dollar/euro. Ironically he failed to realize that, by that point, anime and manga took a foothold of the 18-34 demograph and took Japanese opinion like biblical sermon (weebs, I know).

  • @fishbench7764
    @fishbench7764 4 роки тому +3

    There's a suspicious lack of bioslime in this video about ninjas.

  • @nyerion5712
    @nyerion5712 4 роки тому +3

    I want to know What Happened with the hot garbage we received with Soulcalibur V

  • @patrickjohnson1649
    @patrickjohnson1649 4 роки тому +1

    Matt McMuscles Guide to Ninjas 101: Episode 1 “Bio-Slime”

  • @Artersa
    @Artersa 3 роки тому +8

    As a huge NG fan, I thank you for recognizing that Black is the superior version of NG1 and that Sigma made various nonsense changes.

  • @Kry-Edge
    @Kry-Edge 4 роки тому +1

    Watching this episodes before entering to work fills me with such child like glee. it's undescriptible.

  • @calebwoods9029
    @calebwoods9029 4 роки тому +4

    The simple answer is, Tomonobu Itagaki had left Tecmo by this point, therefore, without Itagaki, the game was destined to fail.

    • @calebwoods9029
      @calebwoods9029 4 роки тому +1

      @@cartoonvideos5 I gurantee you though Ninja Gaiden 3 would have turned out much different than it did if Itagaki had worked on it. Devil's Third on the other hand.. that's a whole other story.

  • @jf_paes1589
    @jf_paes1589 4 роки тому +4

    Itagaki is probably the most competent ideas man I've seen in game development. He knew exactly what he wanted form his games, and he had a team that he knew could bring his vision to life. When he got booted, both parties were heavily affected, Itagaki no longer had a talented team to work with, resulting in shit like Devil's Third, and Team Ninja was left without a competent leader for a really really long time until they finally got their shit together, reasulting in, well, Dead or Alive and Ninja Gaiden's current state.

  • @kangofkek8079
    @kangofkek8079 4 роки тому +5

    "you are reading this you have no life" oof

  • @lovinthescreamo96
    @lovinthescreamo96 4 роки тому +1

    Yo I absolutely love this show and it's one of the few things im subbed to I genuinely get excited when a new one comes out. Keep up the good work dude!

  • @Bennochenno
    @Bennochenno 4 роки тому +3

    Ninja Gaiden 3 - What Happened?
    Narrated by Ferris Bueller

  • @DanthraX2112
    @DanthraX2112 4 роки тому +2

    "look how they massacred my boy" definitely fits here lol