e to the pi i for dummies

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    For this Christmas video the Mathologer sets out to explain Euler's identity e to the pi i = -1, the most beautiful identity in math to our clueless friend Homer Simpson. Very challenging to get this right since Homer knows close to no math!
    Here are a couple of other nice videos on Euler's identity that you may want to check out:
    • Math in the Simpsons: ... (one of our Math in the Simpsons videos)
    • e to the pi i, a nontr... (by 3Blue1Brown)
    And for those of you who enjoy some mathematical challenges here is your homework assignment on Euler's identity:
    1. How much money does Homer have after Pi years if interest is compounded continuously?
    2. How much money does Homer have after an imaginary Pi number of years?
    3. As we've seen when you let m go to infinity the function (1+x/m)^m turns into the exponential function. In fact, it turns into the infinite series expansion of the exponential function that we used in our previous video. Can you explain why?
    4. Can you explain the e to pi i paradox that we've captured in this video on Mathologer 2: • e to the pi i = -1 par... .
    If you own Mathematica you can play with this Mathematica notebook that I put together for this video
    www.qedcat.com/misc/Mathologer...
    Thank you very much to Danil Dmitriev the official Mathologer translator for Russian for his subtitles.
    Merry Christmas!

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  • @headshock1111
    @headshock1111 8 років тому +12354

    I feel like I'm cheating on numberphile but this guy is good

    • @krisztian76
      @krisztian76 8 років тому +36

      +Sam Parker They should do it first.

    • @thelatestartosrs
      @thelatestartosrs 8 років тому +202

      +Sam Parker numberphile dont talk about things like that too much

    • @MarcelRobitaille
      @MarcelRobitaille 8 років тому +8

      Lol

    • @OneZombieTrain
      @OneZombieTrain 7 років тому +13

      cough cough, what got released today

    • @rookandpawn
      @rookandpawn 7 років тому +148

      This is the best explanation i've ever had. His teaching style is perfect for my homer brain

  • @zavionw.8052
    @zavionw.8052 4 роки тому +4261

    i: Be rational!
    π: Get real!
    e: Stop fighting, you're gonna make me negative!

  • @porphyrino2897
    @porphyrino2897 4 роки тому +786

    "really awful to the power of awful"

    • @rasterbate87
      @rasterbate87 4 роки тому +10

      "offal to the power of offal" is what I thought he said

    • @kaet8333
      @kaet8333 2 роки тому

      As a non math person that is my reaction when I see something like that in a calculator

  • @conordorney217
    @conordorney217 4 роки тому +789

    I remember seeing this video 3 years ago when I really was getting into maths and science. I could never make sense of how this could possibly work. What's nice about this video is that now I'm studying chemical physics and have the maths to fully understand this. Kind of nostalgic looking back on problems that I once was unable to grasp.

    • @Dustin314
      @Dustin314 4 роки тому +39

      I've noticed this same thing with various math topics. As my education has progressed, I find that certain things I used to scratch my head over have become much clearer. It's a great feeling!

    • @w451-qx3kx
      @w451-qx3kx 3 роки тому +11

      facts, things that i never possibly thought i could understand in comp sci are now my everyday formulas and functions.

    • @alejrandom6592
      @alejrandom6592 3 роки тому +2

      The feeling

    • @pkrissz
      @pkrissz 3 роки тому +2

      We are all getting old folks.

    • @davidashbourn6342
      @davidashbourn6342 2 роки тому +3

      @@Dustin314 what tips can you recommend to someone trying to get to your level?

  • @MaxDamage1984
    @MaxDamage1984 5 років тому +3304

    I seriously doubt Homer would be able to understand this.

  • @MilanTheAngel
    @MilanTheAngel 7 років тому +3805

    Thanks I now feel more stupid than Homer.

    • @jmiquelmb
      @jmiquelmb 7 років тому +197

      Well, it's not about being stupid or not. You need to know several fields of math before trying to understand this, like complex numbers and some algebra tricks. Don't feel bad about it :)

    • @dannygjk
      @dannygjk 6 років тому +2

      lol

    • @fokkenhotz1
      @fokkenhotz1 6 років тому +13

      playboy bunnies love carrots

    • @graffitijunkiejfk
      @graffitijunkiejfk 6 років тому +4

      Was just thinking, how would Homer et this when I can't...lol...

    • @zandnothinga7367
      @zandnothinga7367 6 років тому +1

      Carrot Slice
      Not feel
      You are

  • @meh5082
    @meh5082 4 роки тому +2082

    “This guide can be understood by anyone that knows how to do addition, subtraction, multiplication and division!”
    *Uses exponents, graphs, imaginary numbers, funcions...*

    • @eduardoandrescastilloperer4810
      @eduardoandrescastilloperer4810 4 роки тому +92

      NotValik he eventually arrives there but the function just uses those operations. In fact that’s what calculators do

    • @nspoly
      @nspoly 4 роки тому +24

      question, do you use grammarly? cuz the last wrd is messed up

    • @neurofiedyamato8763
      @neurofiedyamato8763 4 роки тому +45

      Well he uses addition, multiplication and division to explain these concepts.

    • @PotatoSofi
      @PotatoSofi 4 роки тому +18

      Well...
      I don't reeeeally know imaginary numbers, but I know functions and exponentials, so I can uderstand everything very well.
      BUT you're right. Someone that just knows the four basic operations wouldn't even understand the point of the first part of the video when he explains the 'e'.
      If you really want to SHOW what is e^(pi*i), it's somewhat easy. You could cut a lot from his explanation and turn it in a more "childish language", but he tried to explain in a way that he talks about everything, trying to put every piece of the puzzle in place and forming that more complete image of parts of the operations.
      The problem is: kids (and hommer) doesn't like a 500 pieces puzzles, they don't need a 720p image to "understand" something. Just give them a 40 pieces puzzle and draw some stick figures in Paint and they will be very happy.

    • @hassanakhtar7874
      @hassanakhtar7874 4 роки тому +28

      Sorry to be that guy but exponents are repeated multiplication (for natural number exponents)

  • @arttukettunen5757
    @arttukettunen5757 4 роки тому +543

    Different school subjects' levels taught by youtubers:
    Anything else: middle school
    Math: *University*

    • @shayanmoosavi9139
      @shayanmoosavi9139 4 роки тому +9

      And that TRIGGERS me.
      #StopDiscriminationAgainstOtherTopics

    • @shayanmoosavi9139
      @shayanmoosavi9139 4 роки тому +11

      @Floofy shibe yeah, advanced physics like quantum mechanics and general relativity are math heavy. Some of the math include differential equations, single and multi variable calculus, linear algebra, tensors and other things I'm not aware of yet. All of these subjects are fun, specially differential equations.

    • @emilmullerv3519
      @emilmullerv3519 3 роки тому +7

      @*Floofy shibe* not really, omce you get into advanced maths and advanced physics you see the differences in techniques and thing being taught. It is true that they are deeply related, but the interest of a maths phd are very different than those from a physics phd

    • @keepinmahprivacy9754
      @keepinmahprivacy9754 3 роки тому +45

      @*Floofy shibe* Math is a language, so if you think of a Math degree like a Linguistics degree, then Physics would be more like a Literature degree. One studies how language works, while the other studies something else that is expressed in language.

    • @maoad_dib
      @maoad_dib 3 роки тому +16

      @@keepinmahprivacy9754 you just earned a poetry degree

  • @walterrussell9798
    @walterrussell9798 5 років тому +782

    If Euler's spirit were around, he would be so very, very pleased with this explanation!! Euler was known for simplified, and many, theoretical explanations for any given math "puzzle" (like e). He was not arrogant, his explanations were not configured to be hidden or difficult. He wanted everyone to enjoy/understand/be in awe of a given math puzzle - what this explanation does for this viewer. THANK YOU!!

    • @findystonerush9339
      @findystonerush9339 Рік тому +4

      lol

    • @redandblue1013
      @redandblue1013 Рік тому +42

      @@findystonerush9339 three years has this comment endured without reply, and all you can say is “lol”

    • @PC_Simo
      @PC_Simo Рік тому +7

      @@redandblue1013 Struck me as odd, too. 🤔

    • @-originalLemon-
      @-originalLemon- 10 місяців тому +1

      This isn't even simple, this is too hard on my brain.

    • @maybehelper
      @maybehelper 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@-originalLemon-samw

  • @JamesAda
    @JamesAda 7 років тому +1007

    You would have lost Homer @ 0:11 after you said "Pie"

  • @alejrandom6592
    @alejrandom6592 3 роки тому +77

    It took me more than a semester of teaching myself calculus, geometry, trigonometry and algebra but I finally understood a "for dummies" mathologer video :D

  • @math2693
    @math2693 4 роки тому +102

    I never never ever thought that I might see as strong visual proof for this amazing formula as this guy's👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 this is so 100% enough

  • @mdnpascual
    @mdnpascual 8 років тому +776

    I like that quote "Really awful to the power of awful"

    • @kaninchengaming-inactive-6529
      @kaninchengaming-inactive-6529 5 років тому +2

      (a+b)^2
      =a^2+2ac+b^2
      (a-b)^2
      =a^2-2ab+b^2
      (a+b)*(a-b)
      =a^2-b^2

    • @Miftahul_786
      @Miftahul_786 2 роки тому +3

      @@kaninchengaming-inactive-6529 someone figured out the difference of 2 squares..

    • @AirshipToday
      @AirshipToday 2 роки тому

      @@XeNoX_off I think it was a typo it should be a 'b'

    • @aliasghargondal3787
      @aliasghargondal3787 2 роки тому

      @@kaninchengaming-inactive-6529 In the beginning , there shouldn't be a 2ac , it should be 2ab. (Everyone makes mistakes don't feel bad)

    • @aliasghargondal3787
      @aliasghargondal3787 2 роки тому

      Sorry if I seemed rude

  • @rosefeltch6313
    @rosefeltch6313 5 років тому +2229

    e^πi = i²

    • @footlover9416
      @footlover9416 5 років тому +52

      @Eric Lee you know what he meant

    • @footlover9416
      @footlover9416 5 років тому +15

      no I mean since the video is e ^ (pi x i) you could assume that u multiply before you exponentiate for this comment@Eric Lee

    • @footlover9416
      @footlover9416 5 років тому +9

      ur right I didn't see he had the 2
      I was going to give him the benefit of the doubt and say that maybe he copy and pasted the 2 and couldn't find anything else but this dumb as you can change this easily
      I agree@Eric Lee

    • @rosefeltch6313
      @rosefeltch6313 5 років тому +41

      The carat (^) is a symbol for exponentation, and e^πi is -1, so is i²

    • @soup4001
      @soup4001 5 років тому +17

      @@rosefeltch6313 they are talking about how it should be e^(pi*i) instead of e^pi*i because the latter would be equal to i*e^pi =/= -1 ... As long as we get the point i don't think semantics matter though..

  • @prasadjayanti
    @prasadjayanti 2 роки тому +34

    I am a Ph.D physicist and working as a data scientist but never knew this simple intro to e. Thanks .

  • @ksbvddz229
    @ksbvddz229 2 роки тому +17

    I am 14 and understood this. These videos are the types that remind me why I love math even tho my teacher is pretty bad since he spends the whole hour arguing with kids about eating in class and not teaching us. I love this video. Thank you for it :D

  • @MrHandsomeStudios
    @MrHandsomeStudios 5 років тому +1350

    When m goes to infinity, it comes closer and closer to a Pokemon ball

  • @YilmazDurmaz
    @YilmazDurmaz 5 років тому +415

    after so many years in my engineering life, first time to see what it means to multiply two complex number in graphical explanation. thanks.

    • @maythesciencebewithyou
      @maythesciencebewithyou 4 роки тому +1

      @oynozan Sen simdilik sadece lise desin. Bu lise konusu degil. Yilmaz mühendiz.

    • @maythesciencebewithyou
      @maythesciencebewithyou 4 роки тому +1

      @oynozan ilginc. Türkiyede lisede karmasik sayilari ögretiklerini bilmiyordum. Teknik lisesidemi oluyor, yoksa her lisede konumu?

    • @shantanusolanki3794
      @shantanusolanki3794 3 роки тому

      It is easy to infer from the Euler's formula, e^(ix). And so, the demonstration here, is assuming what we have to prove. Well, not exactly, what we have to prove but a particular value of what we have to find.

    • @hikarunakamura5582
      @hikarunakamura5582 Рік тому

      @@maythesciencebewithyou karmaşık sayılar standart müfredatta vardır ancak karmaşık düzlem üzerinden anlatılmaz. sadece i nin kuvvetleri verilir ( i^2=-1 tarzı bilgiler)

  • @stickmcskunky4345
    @stickmcskunky4345 Рік тому +11

    Fantastic. I didn't quite grasp complex multiplication and I definitely didn't understand e^πi but this gives me a *solid* starting point. Much appreciated even 7 years later.

  • @samlawhorn
    @samlawhorn 4 роки тому +11

    Mathologer, you're one of the greatest explainers of math of all time. Loved this one!

  • @GyanPratapSingh
    @GyanPratapSingh 8 років тому +110

    this is probably the best, most intuitive explanation I have seen of Euller's identity. Really well done!

    • @Mathologer
      @Mathologer  8 років тому +21

      +Gyan Pratap Singh (GyanPS) Glad you like this explanation and thank you very much for saying so :) Maybe also check out the two videos in the description (just in case you have not seen them yet). There are quite a few more nice points to be made about all this.

  • @PotatoMcWhiskey
    @PotatoMcWhiskey 8 років тому +45

    I dont understand what went on in this video beyond a certain point, but at very least my awareness of my mathmatical ignorance is expanded

    • @Mathologer
      @Mathologer  8 років тому +10

      +PotatoMcWhiskey Maybe just watch it a couple of times and maybe do some background exploring in between (reading up/YouTubing up on the basics of complex numbers might help). Also there are a couple of other videos on e to the pi i that are worth checking out and that explore different approaches. I've linked two of them in in the description :) Anyway keep watching videos by us and some of the other great math channels out there and I am sure you'll get there :)

    • @aigen-journey
      @aigen-journey 8 років тому +1

      +Mathologer I think the part about complex numbers might need a bit more explanation. If someone has never stumbled upon complex numbers the bit about multiplying them on a 2D plane is probably very confusing. Especially since one would usually associate a two axis plane with functions for example.

  • @010falcon
    @010falcon 10 місяців тому +1

    This actually makes sense
    Studying physics and never understood how the concept of e to the power of i worked

  • @theinquiringminded6952
    @theinquiringminded6952 11 місяців тому

    Magnificent seeing it again so many years later and understanding more… bravo! What a great teacher!

  • @indigogolf3051
    @indigogolf3051 7 років тому +232

    Thank you. I watched this purely for nostalgic reasons. I forgot how much I enjoyed studying mathematics forty years ago.

    • @Mathologer
      @Mathologer  7 років тому +25

      Glad this one worked for you :)

    • @z3lop59
      @z3lop59 7 років тому +1

      kirvesmies can you still do it?

    • @indigogolf3051
      @indigogolf3051 7 років тому +1

      Not a chance, unfortunately.

    • @z3lop59
      @z3lop59 7 років тому +2

      kirvesmies thats sad. im thinking about studying physics where math is very present as well as you know

    • @z3lop59
      @z3lop59 7 років тому +1

      One Thou Wou didnt get what you mean

  • @VelexiaOmbra
    @VelexiaOmbra 8 років тому +137

    The end bit where we increase m toward infinity was beautiful.

    • @Phoniv
      @Phoniv 8 років тому +3

      +Velexia Ombra great comment

    • @ashrasmun1
      @ashrasmun1 8 років тому

      +Defendor mediocre comment

    • @Zerberusse777
      @Zerberusse777 7 років тому

      shitty comment

    • @U014B
      @U014B 7 років тому +2

      +Zerberusse777 f(comment) = lim- [x -> 0] 1/x

    • @Phoniv
      @Phoniv 7 років тому +1

      funny,

  • @madmaximus2836
    @madmaximus2836 2 роки тому +2

    The first thing my Physics 1 professor said during his introductory lecture (after he greeted us) was: The universe is described by 3 numbers: 2 are irrational and the 3rd does not exist. He was referring to pi, e and i. Rest in peace, Prof Strauss ...
    Thanks for your cool lecture of the 3 numbers that describes the universe. This brings back so much nostalgia even after more than 30 years. It is Saturday night and I watched this video. Guess I'm still a nerd and loving it!

  • @colinholloway8076
    @colinholloway8076 4 роки тому +3

    I got some of it. That will do for now. Love this explanation and REALLY like the graphics. So good to add some concrete explanation to the abstractions.

  • @ENCHANTMEN_
    @ENCHANTMEN_ 7 років тому +572

    14:20 Observe how as M approaches infinity, the endpoint of the series approaches OOH LOOK A POKEBALL

    • @robinfrenzy
      @robinfrenzy 7 років тому +37

      so (1 + i π/33)^33 = pokeball ?

    • @Kyrbi0
      @Kyrbi0 7 років тому +1

      Off-topic but HEY A PREQUEL FAN. Noice username & avatar. : )

    • @gorgono1
      @gorgono1 6 років тому +4

      this formula is the secret of creating a pokeball

    • @MilesQuickster
      @MilesQuickster 5 років тому

      Pokémon is just a bunch of Maths. Migrating from regions is a computed simulation

  • @DDranks
    @DDranks 8 років тому +106

    This was the best explanation for e^(pi i) = -1 I've ever seen, hands down.

  • @JD-fi4nk
    @JD-fi4nk 2 роки тому +2

    Wonderful video. Thank you for helping to put this mystery in layman's terms.

  • @itscky2007
    @itscky2007 Рік тому

    Explaining with the graph just makes it so much better to understand, thanks for the explaination!

  • @yanwo2359
    @yanwo2359 8 років тому +72

    EXCELLENT! WONDERFUL! Perfect! I have run out of superlatives.
    No distracting, annoying, background "music." No superfluous sound effects. No constant, senseless, movement of the presenter all over the frame. No distracting, constant, hand and arm motion.
    Excellent presentation. Excellent graphics. Excellent explanation. Excellent diction. Other math(s) and science videos on UA-cam pale in comparison.
    Thank you very much!
    Jon

    • @Mathologer
      @Mathologer  8 років тому +8

      +Yan Wo Comments like this make my day. Thank you very much :)

    • @turun_ambartanen
      @turun_ambartanen 8 років тому +2

      +Yan Wo
      you ran out of superlatives?
      you never started XD

    • @markhollingsworth1725
      @markhollingsworth1725 7 років тому +2

      Agree. The presentation and production style is excellent.

  • @mohasandras
    @mohasandras 8 років тому +159

    This video is so awesome, I bursted out in tears of joy.

    • @GenericInternetter
      @GenericInternetter 8 років тому +5

      Huh? Why?

    • @damienw4958
      @damienw4958 8 років тому +6

      +Generic Internetter he uses simplicity to explain something so complicated that your brain would explode into a thousand pieces if you understand only a tenth of it!

    • @DaysDX
      @DaysDX 8 років тому +1

      +Generic Internetter because understanding something that is already so beautiful and important in a brand new way is really really awesome!

    • @AreYouGettingThis
      @AreYouGettingThis 8 років тому +4

      +mohasandras I was actually grasping onto the edge of my seat towards the end :D

    • @iAmTheSquidThing
      @iAmTheSquidThing 7 років тому

      I vomited with amazement.

  • @dylan7476
    @dylan7476 3 роки тому +1

    Wow that was really well explained. I have a few maths exams next week and I could actually understand and follow along with everything you said which is reassuring.

  • @evansiegel1732
    @evansiegel1732 3 роки тому +1

    Brilliant! I always just thought this was somehow a mystical union of pi, e, and i. But now it all comes together.
    This is really what math is about!

  • @LiborTinka
    @LiborTinka 7 років тому +1425

    I want to live in a world where this has more views than a hip hop song about some guy's new Lamborghini.

    • @mishadoomen8372
      @mishadoomen8372 7 років тому +8

      Libor Tinka you think numbers are more interesting than letters?

    • @LiborTinka
      @LiborTinka 7 років тому +80

      Misha Doomen
      I just found the relationships explained by such a powerful formula much more intellectually pleasing than an empty song of basically three words dominated by "yo" and "bro"...

    • @blovlh6258
      @blovlh6258 7 років тому +3

      Libor Tinka But they aren't dominated by yo and bro... Still young people mainstream though so it works.

    • @mishadoomen8372
      @mishadoomen8372 7 років тому +5

      Libor Tinka but that's not true actually. If you would watch a video from KSI about his lyrics on his song 'lamborghini', you would see that he did put a lot of effort into his lyrics.

    • @LiborTinka
      @LiborTinka 7 років тому +49

      Misha Doomen
      You're right - I am not completely honest with the comparison.
      I just wanted to express sadness over societal values, where an overpriced transportation device used as status symbol matters more than intellect and knowledge.

  • @monolyth421
    @monolyth421 7 років тому +110

    e^(πi) = cos(π) + i*sin(π) = -1

    • @JatinSanghvi1
      @JatinSanghvi1 7 років тому +57

      That's right. But now you need to explain why the equality e^(πi) = cos(π) + i*sin(π) holds true to Homer.

    • @monolyth421
      @monolyth421 7 років тому +11

      That's how I understood it at first because I took Euler's formula without question. The video's explanation is much better.

    • @adamolesiak6528
      @adamolesiak6528 7 років тому +4

      Well, e^(πi) = z => z= x + y*i, now just draw the z on the Re/Im axis and draw the connection between z and (0,0) (r). Now some simple trygonometry and we get cos(fi)=x/r ^ sin(fi)=y/r for all z points except from (0,0). So now we got z=e^(πi)=r(cos(fi)+i*sin(fi).

    • @JatinSanghvi1
      @JatinSanghvi1 7 років тому

      @Adam, A point z in complex plane can be represented either in terms of its real and imaginary parts (x + iy) or in terms of its magnitude and phase [r (cos ɸ + i sin ɸ)]. I could not understand how this is relevant to the discussion. Anyway, z can also be represented using Euler's formula, z = r e^(iɸ)

    • @monolyth421
      @monolyth421 7 років тому +5

      It would be easier to remove the crayon from Homer's brain, then he could understand anything!

  • @GiI11
    @GiI11 4 роки тому

    This blew my mind on so many levels. It made higher arithmetic finally become relevant. Thanks!

  • @Mathologer
    @Mathologer  8 років тому +158

    For this Christmas video we set out to explain Euler's identity e to the pi i = -1, the most beautiful identity in math again, but this time to our clueless friend Homer Simpson. Very challenging to get this right since Homer knows close to no math!
    Here are a couple of other nice videos on Euler's identity that you may also want to check out:
    ua-cam.com/video/Yi3bT-82O5s/v-deo.html (one of our Math in the Simpsons videos)
    ua-cam.com/video/F_0yfvm0UoU/v-deo.html (by 3Blue1Brown)
    And for those of you who enjoy some mathematical challenges here is your homework assignment on Euler's identity:
    1. How much money does Homer have after Pi years if interest is compounded continuously?
    2. How much money does Homer have after an imaginary Pi number of years?
    3. As we've seen when you let m go to infinity the function (1+x/m)^m turns into the exponential function. In fact, it turns into the infinite series expansion of the exponential function that we used in our previous video. Can you explain why?
    4. Can you explain the e to pi i paradox that we've captured in this video on Mathologer 2: ua-cam.com/video/Sx5_QGdFmq4/v-deo.html.
    Merry Christmas!

    • @fahadAKAme
      @fahadAKAme 8 років тому

      +Mathologer how do you know by how much you stretch the triangles?

    • @Mathologer
      @Mathologer  8 років тому +1

      +fahadAKAme One of the triangles stays fixed and then you align and stretch the other triangle with the fixed on as shown in the video until the touching sides are the same length :)

    • @fahadAKAme
      @fahadAKAme 8 років тому

      Mathologer so for every x increase in length of side a,b(the side adjacent to the fixed triangle) there is an equal increase in the length of the other two sides? or is the increase in length is proportional?

    • @Mathologer
      @Mathologer  8 років тому +1

      +fahadAKAme Yes, all sides are scaled by the same factor resulting in a triangle similar (in the mathematical sense) to the one you started with.

    • @alexharkler
      @alexharkler 8 років тому

      So if M=(pi)xi, then doesn't x have to approach negative infinity on the imaginary number line? When M=(pi)x, m approaches infinity as x approaches infinity, but when M=(pi)xi, m approaches infinity as x approaches -i(infinity). So does this mean that -xi and x both approach the same number as x approaches infinity? (Please correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't taken a math course in 6 years)

  • @mrmeowtv6248
    @mrmeowtv6248 7 років тому +303

    This video said "for dummies" so I'm here.

    • @dr2353
      @dr2353 3 роки тому

      yeah me too

  • @andreasandreotti4492
    @andreasandreotti4492 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you sir, it could not be more pedagogical presented. I like mathematics because it has always given me peace of mind. I often try to I solve problems on algebra, geometry and trigonometry in order to get away of everyday concerns. The fascination of it is to reduce a complex problem into the four main calculation forms as you wisely pointed out. You call them tricks, I call it maneuvering, or favorable manipulation. Being a Greek I always have the Aristotelian logical categories in mind that help a lot in mathematical thinking.

  • @pinklady7184
    @pinklady7184 3 роки тому

    Last year, I didn't understand e^pii. Now I do, completely. Thank you for this tutorial.

  • @bonecanoe86
    @bonecanoe86 8 років тому +597

    So basically e gets you a formula, i puts that formula on a circle, and pi sends you halfway around that circle to -1. Is that the gist of it?

    • @elementalsheep2672
      @elementalsheep2672 6 років тому +106

      Yes, but the circle that the formula puts it on is complex, as in it exists in both the real and imaginary plane.

    • @riccardopuca9310
      @riccardopuca9310 6 років тому +27

      bonecanoe86 very interesting take on the explanation. I'd say the "circle" is already in e's formula (it's in dividing by "m", which gets you closer and closer to 1), but it is in one dimension only. What "i" does is putting it in 2 dimension, allowing us to see the "circle" we're used to (I.e., a bi-dimensional circle).
      In my opinion, this connection between e and the circle (and thus with pi) is all the more interesting as it is so intrinsic and unavoidable.

    • @ddogworld4
      @ddogworld4 6 років тому +3

      Riccardo Puca not even close

    • @mrsecify
      @mrsecify 6 років тому +23

      Basically if you find the Taylor series of exponential function, cosine and sine function you'll see the connection and why e^i*x = cos(x) + i*sin(x), or in special case where x = pi e^i*pi = -1

    • @MarkMcDaniel
      @MarkMcDaniel 6 років тому +7

      All mathematical constants can be expressed in formulae, pi included.
      functions.wolfram.com/Constants/Pi/09/

  • @IoEstasCedonta
    @IoEstasCedonta 8 років тому +204

    Huh. I've got a couple degrees, but I never actually was taught the triangle trick.

    • @WattSekunde
      @WattSekunde 8 років тому +6

      Wow. Me too!

    • @NoConsequenc3
      @NoConsequenc3 7 років тому +46

      The worst thing is that I've always played with shapes on graphs to do things but my teachers would get mad at me and tell me to do it with numbers... yet this guy uses the shapes and I FINALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON and it pisses me off that I was told this was not "the way"

    • @davidwright8432
      @davidwright8432 7 років тому +35

      Your teachers were cautioning you so strongly because there are many occasions in which diagrams can be seriously misleading. On the other hand, when they work, they do so beautifully and all is clear! Being able to spot which situation you have - informative or misleading - comes only with experience. and, of course error; but the only way to detect and correct the error, is by using symbolic (algebraic) arguments, not diagrams. so we're all cautioned never, ever, to use diagrams - or, also as kids, get in a stranger's car. Either can lead to unhappiness!

    • @PR-qe1zn
      @PR-qe1zn 7 років тому +5

      I think the problem is that unless you're using a graphical program, you still end up multiplying the other sides of the triangle by some scale factor in order to scale the triangle, and it ends up being the same work basically.

    • @lukapopovic5802
      @lukapopovic5802 7 років тому +3

      IoEstasCedonta Does anyone know why the triangle trick works ?

  • @wailingalen
    @wailingalen 2 роки тому +1

    I’m not a chem or math major or profession but I’ve always been fascinated with visualizations on math. I love this stuff. Sometimes I have to watch it a few times to wrap my head around it. But this guy does a good job of breaking it down

    • @wailingalen
      @wailingalen 2 роки тому

      I just watched this again and just had an ah ha moment and really understood it more

  • @BAgodmode
    @BAgodmode 2 роки тому

    That is indeed the best way to explain it. As soon as you brought in the triangles, it clicked and I knew exactly where it was heading.

  • @vmaier3000
    @vmaier3000 5 років тому +13

    This is extremely beautiful! I’m an engineer who loves math but it was many years after graduating college that I came back to math to go beyond formulae and try to ‘internalize’ stuff that I knew by heart!
    Thank you!

  • @BryanLawlor
    @BryanLawlor 7 років тому +15

    Brilliant! Watching the magic at 14:20 changed my life. I have always been mystified by this identity but never understood how you get it. Thank you so much!

  • @narrotibi
    @narrotibi 3 роки тому

    I watched this 2015 and a couple of times in between and right now.
    One of the best videos ever!

  • @beachman8106
    @beachman8106 Рік тому +1

    I find it very interesting how so much of higher mathematics can be reduced to geometry or triangles and circles.

  • @whreREtjk4ko
    @whreREtjk4ko 7 років тому +18

    Beautiful explanation, far clearer than the usual "stretching and rotating numberlines" explanation.

  • @haikal9329
    @haikal9329 5 років тому +336

    “For ddUMmIeS”
    Me: “huh, you underestimated my power”
    *15 minutes later
    Me:...

    • @chekovcall2286
      @chekovcall2286 4 роки тому +3

      (: IKR? At least he gets credit for my repeated views.

    • @JMZReview
      @JMZReview 4 роки тому +5

      @@chekovcall2286 WHY DID U WRITE YOUR SMILY FACE BACKWARDS
      its :) not (:
      *I HAVE OCD*

    • @joaoneto6216
      @joaoneto6216 4 роки тому +6

      @@JMZReview :j

    • @alwayswinning7282
      @alwayswinning7282 4 роки тому +4

      @@JMZReview (: /: [ :

    • @JMZReview
      @JMZReview 4 роки тому +3

      @@alwayswinning7282 i want to die

  • @isaacwolford
    @isaacwolford 7 місяців тому +2

    You did an absolutely beautiful job of explaining this in a simple and beautiful manner! This is the way math should be taught.

    • @Mathologer
      @Mathologer  7 місяців тому +1

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @hamidkh5488
    @hamidkh5488 3 роки тому

    Thank you very much professor.
    I believe this is the best way to show how this formula works.

  • @MarufSajjad
    @MarufSajjad 8 років тому +13

    This gotta be the greatest explanation for this equation, hats off

  • @chrisgreen_1729
    @chrisgreen_1729 5 років тому +12

    Very nicely explained! I've always found it difficult to understand Euler's identity intuitively - amazing that Carl Friedrich Gauss said that "immediately understanding" Euler's identity was a benchmark pursuant to becoming a first-class mathematician.

  • @Christina.Anne.
    @Christina.Anne. 7 місяців тому

    I’ve been studying Euler‘s formula in addition to Euler‘s identity, and this was so incredibly helpful! Thank you so much!

  • @CameronCajun
    @CameronCajun 2 роки тому

    This was super fascinating. Best explanation I've come across. Very succinct.

  • @NathanTAK
    @NathanTAK 7 років тому +58

    "for someone who can only do +-*/"
    "Reminder: i = sqrt(-1)"
    Waaaait...

    • @Roescoe
      @Roescoe 5 років тому +14

      how about "remember that i*i = -1"

  • @Dhirallin
    @Dhirallin 7 років тому +130

    You lost Homer at 0:50

    • @UnchainedEruption
      @UnchainedEruption 6 років тому

      lol XD

    • @toka266
      @toka266 6 років тому

      No at 0:00

    • @irrelevant_noob
      @irrelevant_noob 5 років тому

      Rajie Music indeed, and i would like to add a bit more : especially since he misstated those *_BASIC_* facts about i : 0:49 "square of minus 1", skipping over the "root" bit, and 0:51 "i squared is 1", skipping over the "minus". -.-

  • @MrFlaviojosefus
    @MrFlaviojosefus 4 роки тому +1

    Absolut fantastic!!! This is how a great teacher of Mathematics should speak. Even if I am doing something else while hearing to this video I've got impressed by it.

  • @emilyemily9953
    @emilyemily9953 4 роки тому +3

    The cat meowing in the background is a beautiful touch

  • @robertodelier9999
    @robertodelier9999 5 років тому +263

    Pi: "GET REAL"
    i: "BE RATIONAL"
    Me: *no comment*

    • @ZerDoxXie
      @ZerDoxXie 4 роки тому +16

      roberto delier you just commented therefore you lied

    • @robertodelier9999
      @robertodelier9999 4 роки тому +9

      @@ZerDoxXie *gasp*

    • @ZerDoxXie
      @ZerDoxXie 4 роки тому +2

      @@robertodelier9999 :O IMPOSSIBRUUUUU

    • @ZerDoxXie
      @ZerDoxXie 4 роки тому +2

      @@robertodelier9999 xDDD

    • @heisenberg4703
      @heisenberg4703 4 роки тому +4

      e: join me and together we'll get-1

  • @graemsheppard5846
    @graemsheppard5846 5 років тому +18

    "It's real magic happening about to happen. Ready to go for magic?" My favourite part of the video :) 14:18

  • @lolaharwood619
    @lolaharwood619 3 місяці тому

    Using the approximations and taking their limits to infinity visually has to be the absolute best way I've ever seen this proven! Thankyou, i understand it now much more than before

  • @darrenhall7807
    @darrenhall7807 3 роки тому +1

    Well I watched this, thinking I would learn and remember something which I thought was beyond me. I was both right and wrong regarding this matter. Wrong to think I would learn or remember, but right to think it was beyond me. MORAL of this little tale is that it’s ok to be wrong about something, but it’s wonderful to know and be right about yourself.

  • @xakkep9000
    @xakkep9000 6 років тому +18

    When you stretched triangles on the complex plane, I say: "WoW!!!! It's awesome!" I had never ever seen that math like THAT. Beautiful!

  • @floridaman6982
    @floridaman6982 5 років тому +5

    I never understood e so well until i watched the first 2 minutes of this. Thank you

  • @Anders01
    @Anders01 2 роки тому

    Really good explanations! I especially like the bank to e analogy and that multiplying complex vectors of length 1 lead to only rotation.

  • @laxmigurung2155
    @laxmigurung2155 4 роки тому

    Really cool way to understand Euler's formula. Thanks.

  • @dannyspeagle10
    @dannyspeagle10 7 років тому +10

    Thank you, MATHOLOGER...
    This video is perhaps the most brilliantly simple explanation of a seemingly impossibly hard topic.
    It's not perfect, but it is damn amazing.

  • @leofranklin84
    @leofranklin84 5 років тому +151

    Absolutely brilliant explanation!!! I don't think even Euler could have put it as good as this. U even got the perfect Tshirt for this

    • @MsAlarman
      @MsAlarman 3 роки тому +3

      The progress of computer graphics

  • @pedrosanchezpalma4443
    @pedrosanchezpalma4443 2 роки тому

    This explanation is the golden glue for mixing intuition and maths with regards to the e^pi*i=-1 formula. Many Many thanks for it. This glue will be there for ever.

  • @kwxutube
    @kwxutube Рік тому

    Thank you, indeed the best explanation I've seen ever, connects everything and demystify the formula!

  • @mhelvens
    @mhelvens 6 років тому +250

    Nice video. But the bit starting at 5:57, where you suddenly have _m_ instead of _nπ_ because "that will also get you there" feels a bit hand-wavy. Maybe clearer if you explain you're going to increase _n_ in steps of _1/π._

    • @Anon54387
      @Anon54387 5 років тому +5

      Hand wavy? What in the world does that mean?

    • @irrelevant_noob
      @irrelevant_noob 5 років тому +22

      Anon54387 means a figurative waving of hand(s) in that superb style that Obi-Wan exemplified with his "these aren't the droids you're looking for". ;-)

    • @jye-mings.2476
      @jye-mings.2476 5 років тому +6

      Michiel Helvensteijn
      you get to infinity both ways so it doesnt matter

    • @irrelevant_noob
      @irrelevant_noob 5 років тому +5

      Jye-Ming Serres yes, that's basically what Mathologer said in the video. To make things a bit more formal, i think the explanation would rely on the idea of limit(s). And if one knows how a limit works, it basically says that for a given context there's a point (a natural number) after which something interesting happens (in this case, the result gets closer to the value of the limit). And now hopefully it's clearer why an always-increasing (and necessarily unbounded!) sequence of irrational numbers works just as well as the sequence of natural numbers: if there's an irrational point past which the property holds, then there's a natural number for which that same property still holds. QED.

    • @jerryweatherby1171
      @jerryweatherby1171 5 років тому +5

      Pirate's Piggy I also felt like the substitution went unexplained (hand-wavey.)

  • @h4ck3r211
    @h4ck3r211 5 років тому +32

    I saw this video a couple of years ago and I didn’t understand, I just realized how good it is, it would be very nice that you explained why the complex numbers multiplication has that geometric interpretation, but thank you :)

    • @awfuldynne
      @awfuldynne 3 роки тому +6

      You can write a complex number a + bi as r(cos θ + i sin θ), where r = sqrt(a^2 + b^2)-the distance between the complex number's coordinate (a, b) and the origin (0, 0)-and θ is the origin angle of the triangle with vertices (a, b), (0, 0) and (1, 0) (same triangle as the video). θ = Arctan b/a for complex numbers with a positive real part. Add π or 180° if a is negative. (you don't need to know these functions; I'm mostly listing them as "this is how you translate complex numbers from 'Cartesian' grid coordinates to 'polar' circle coordinates.")
      For reasons I'm not sure how to explain, cos θ + i sin θ = e^(iθ), so when you multiply two complex numbers together, their angles add together. (the explanation I got involved Taylor series, which requires calculus). Adding the angles is represented by the rotation of the triangle needed to line its base up with the side of the other triangle opposite (1, 0). Multiplying the lengths together is represented by stretching the triangle, and it works because the triangle base had a length of 1 before we started stretching, so if the triangle had side lengths 1 and z, and we stretched the whole triangle so the 1 became a w, the z would have to become a zw or we'd have a distorted triangle.
      (I can't always tell which bits are easy or hard, so feedback is useful if I skipped over something I needed to explain)
      Supplementary notes:
      θ is a Greek letter called "theta". It's commonly used as a variable representing angles.
      Trigonometry: Picture the unit circle on a coordinate grid. Starting at (1, 0), travel θ units counterclockwise along the unit circle. You are now at (cos θ, sin θ), where θ is an angle measured in radians. tan θ = sin θ/cos θ. Arctan x is also known as tan⁻¹ x; that's an inverse, not a reciprocal. To keep Arctan x as a single-valued function, its range is limited to angle outputs in the right half of the unit circle, which is why I said to add π "if a is negative", which describes angles on the left side of the unit circle. (x, or tan θ, is undefined for θ = ±π/2, since a = cos θ = 0 for those values that are neither left nor right)
      exponents: e^x * e^y = e^(x + y).
      The Taylor series for e^ix can be separated into a real polynomial with even exponents and an imaginary polynomial with odd exponents. The former is the Taylor series expansion for cos x. The latter is the expansion for sin x. So e^ix = cos x + i sin x

    • @pyramidteam9961
      @pyramidteam9961 Рік тому +1

      @@awfuldynne Good explanation, I don't think Homer would know what you're talking about though

    • @eirdonne_
      @eirdonne_ Рік тому

      @@awfuldynne that went waaaay over my head as a 13 year old. ...what... what language do you speak of?

    • @awfuldynne
      @awfuldynne Рік тому

      @@eirdonne_ I think my main point was to say, "For one of the standard ways to express complex numbers, 'rotate and scale' is a natural way to geometrically interpret multiplication", as an explanation, but I tried to explain the explanation which still needed an explanation because everything requires _some_ background knowledge and then I lose my point amid the rabbit trails.
      To be fair, that first paragraph or section is _how to convert_ a+bi into Re^iθ, making it harder to follow.

  • @bobkelly3162
    @bobkelly3162 Рік тому

    Now that was seriously good. You cleared years of garbage out of my head and showed the simple, underlying beauty that is always waiting...

  • @0xaronfan
    @0xaronfan Місяць тому

    I think this is the most easily understood explanation, thank you.

  • @adiramrakhani
    @adiramrakhani 5 років тому +12

    This was brilliant- Homer may have not followed along but this surely was great and really useful for me

  • @DerGully
    @DerGully 5 років тому +27

    I love how your arm becomes transparent whenever it's in front of the math you explain. Pretty cool skill, I want that too.

    • @atulanand9292
      @atulanand9292 2 роки тому

      His figure has been edited to be behind the presentation and the opacity if the presentation has been kept high.

  • @qin2500
    @qin2500 2 роки тому

    Its kinda serreal watching this video so many years ago, and I'm suddenly reminded of it again as I'm finally learning about it in Uni.

  • @rthmjohn
    @rthmjohn Рік тому

    This video is one for the ages. A true masterpiece.

  • @dr.drakeramoray789
    @dr.drakeramoray789 7 років тому +1078

    the only thing i understood is that im more stupid than homer :(

    • @General12th
      @General12th 7 років тому +21

      You're more stupider than homer. :)

    • @lukapopovic5802
      @lukapopovic5802 7 років тому +8

      Seymore Butts Precednice nismo znali da volite matematiku

    • @Shibzzeg
      @Shibzzeg 7 років тому +16

      Just return to this video in a few days - it'll be easier to understand

    • @dr.drakeramoray789
      @dr.drakeramoray789 7 років тому +4

      moram, zajebase me zadnji put kad sam prodavao rakiju

    • @Oraclethingy
      @Oraclethingy 7 років тому +10

      Have a good night's sleep and come back! Einstein liked to think of a problem before he went to bed, and it helped him think of a solution in the morning.

  • @Darkness2179
    @Darkness2179 7 років тому +5

    Genius. Tyvm for this explanation. It's beautiful, really.

  • @kraevme
    @kraevme Рік тому

    Thank you for subtitles, this is a very interesting math video

  • @drziggyabdelmalak1439
    @drziggyabdelmalak1439 10 місяців тому

    Wowee!!! You, or anyone , will not probably read this now as the years have passed. Thank you for that, Mathologer. Brilliant and clearly explained.

  • @chocolatecrud
    @chocolatecrud 7 років тому +82

    I finally get it after like 3 hours lol

    • @Mathologer
      @Mathologer  7 років тому +96

      I'd say 3 hours well spent :)

    • @chocolatecrud
      @chocolatecrud 7 років тому +12

      Mathologer Absolutely, helped me understand intuitively

    • @tipeg8841
      @tipeg8841 5 років тому

      chocolatecrud prout

  • @Lavvysuperstar23
    @Lavvysuperstar23 5 років тому +37

    NO WAAYYY math can be really cool sometimes

  • @chicago499
    @chicago499 4 роки тому

    The most impressive thing is how accurately you point knowing that the numbers/equations/whatever are added after

  • @neurofiedyamato8763
    @neurofiedyamato8763 4 роки тому

    This was amazing, you really explained this very well and simple. Yet also entertaining.

  • @enzila468
    @enzila468 8 років тому +4

    I don't think homer would understand this, but it was a REALLY cool take on the identity.

  • @MayankRamnani1802
    @MayankRamnani1802 5 років тому +3

    This is by far the best explanation I have seen, and that unit circle visualization was very good! You earned a subscriber.

  • @Anonim01089
    @Anonim01089 4 роки тому +1

    I really enjoyed this video, I now love maths more than ever!

  • @skoff7628
    @skoff7628 4 роки тому

    I really want to thank you for the great videos. I am a huge fan! As a business student I was really happy to see you do a video covering continous compounding. I would be more than happy if you could do a video solely covering this topic in more detail. Sadly I never got this explained, it was always just a given which one has to except. A thing I cant handle really well in mathematics. Das wäre mir eine große Hilfe und glaube ich für sehr viele Zuschauer interessant. Nochmals herzlichen Dank! Ich wünsche eine besinnliche Weihnachtszeit :) LG

  • @mkb6418
    @mkb6418 8 років тому +10

    Genious explanation.

  • @CalculatedRiskAK
    @CalculatedRiskAK 6 років тому +5

    This explanation is brilliant. It gave me a great visual intuition for what e is and how e^(i*pi) = -1.

  • @physicself
    @physicself 4 роки тому

    Another great video. I especially like the geometric explanation of complex number multiplication! Always did it algebraically, but this similar triangles way is much clearer!!

  • @eganeshseshadri6441
    @eganeshseshadri6441 2 роки тому

    I loved the wonderful explanations for both the e to the pi and e to the i pi

  • @jmwild1
    @jmwild1 7 років тому +87

    My math analysis teacher in high school gave us a great story/mnemonic for remembering e to 15 decimal places. Andrew Jackson was the 7th President, served for 2 terms, first elected in 1828, and was allegedly involved in a love triangle. 2(terms).7(th President)18281828(elected in 1828 for 2 terms)459045(alleged love triangle).

    • @Mathologer
      @Mathologer  7 років тому +25

      Nic one :)

    • @Amir-wf2if
      @Amir-wf2if 6 років тому +17

      why alleged love triangle is 459045?

    • @noa_1104
      @noa_1104 6 років тому +24

      Amirabbas Askary The angles are 45° 45° and 90° :)

    • @theroboticscodedepot7736
      @theroboticscodedepot7736 5 років тому +10

      It's easy to remember 2.7 now just tack on 1828 and again 1828. Do you need more than 10 digits?

    • @kylemorman7284
      @kylemorman7284 5 років тому +42

      This will help me remember that Andrew Jackson was the seventh president.