Answers to FAQ 1. Dumbledore, Quirrelmort, Scarfie, they're all in the video 'AVPM series but it's just the gay characters'. ua-cam.com/video/qQ5u55-rguE/v-deo.html 2. Henry Hidgens is not explicitly said to be gay, it doesn't count. Though he does seem so to me, or at least very camp. Mannerisms do not a sexuality make. 3. McNamara is not shown to be gay, either. One line of dialogue that isn't even in the musical (and I didn't know about) is not representation. How could that be added to this video when it doesn't occur in the actual musical?
Emma Hurst Nick Lang tweeted that Macnamara had a monologue cut where he mentioned his husband, and that they’re going to try to “fit more of MacNamara’s backstory into future projects.” (@NickLangTweets)
and now in nightmare time when Ted says that he lost the love of his life, Hidgens replies with "something like that happened to me once, it was with a boy named Chad" so now, Hidgens is canon gay
Frostywing non binary and trans people do count in bisexuality. The definition of bisexuality is attraction to two or more genders, and trans people count as their gender.
@@cartooncrazy9883 bisexual means attraction to two genders. That means you could be attracted to guys and non-binary peeps or you could be attracted to guys and gals or gals and non-binary pals. If you have the ability to be attracted to everyone regardless of gender, you are pansexual.
Trey Atkins common misconception! The bisexual manifesto published in 1990 says two or more genders. Pansexuals have a very similar or the same definition depending on who you ask but bisexuality has never meant only two, despite how the prefix makes it seem.
Catie B i know right! it was so sweet, he clearly didn’t care at all she was gay, and not only talked about setting her up with a girl, but talked about it in the same way he would talk about her dating a boy, didn’t make a big deal of it at all.
Yeah, when I first watched it (it was my first starkid musical) I did a double take bc representation is usually rlly bad in media, and in tgwdlm its, like some ppl are saying, it wasnt a big basis, just something normal. It made me happy :3
Yeah! I think its great thats homosexuality is featured in their musicals, but no one talks about it because it should just be a good, normal thing now.
@@maeline1570 A college show called Summertime by Charles Mee. Julia Albain (Crabbe and Specs) directed and it had Darren, Bonnie, Joey, Lauren, and Jamie Lynn, among others.
Go look at the video on my channel called "AVPM series but it's just the gay characters". I promise I didn't forget about them. It would have made a really long video (30+ minutes) all together.
Ngl even as a gay woman, when bill said girlfriend I thought friend mostly because my grandma always calls her friends her girlfriends so now it's just the first thing that came to my mind, then immediately I realized that he ment girlfriend lol
Jemilla reacting to Zazz dancing is literally just me anytime Lauren is allowed to play a woman tbh Also, McNamera canonically has a husband! BRING ME MY POWERFUL GAY HUSBAND, HE DESERVES RECOGNITION
Ok but can we talk about the fact that, basically every time McDoon does the iconic 'bandit king' gesture, he uses his left hand (there's one exception but every other time) But when he dies, it's his right hand? So when it's a choice between letting go of Cleetus Jones or letting go of the one thing keeping him alive, he instinctively does the latter? Because that makes me sad sometimes.
I lowkey headcanon that after Firebringer, Zazz dates both Jemilla and Keeri, and also the two tribes become one tribe so Jemilla can have her wife Zazz and also have her husand and wife Clarke and Claire and her kids :)
Not missing in the video since it's not actual representation, but I personally believe Paul to be bi to, because when Mr Davidson asks him what he wants, he replies with something along the lines of "a partner, kids maybe" and I think if Paul was straight, he would've said girlfriend
Starkid doesn't make a character revolve only around their sexuality, that's something I love about starkid Most movies or musicals that feature a gay character make their sexuality their only trait, that is their personality and it sucks. Starkid normalises it, they make it look like a world where people can be gay and people don't start asking millions of questions, they just accept it. I wish the real world was like that sometimes
god as a part of the lgbtq+ i love starkids representation. they don't make a big deal out of the reveals, they don't make it their whole personality, they just treat them like normal people and i love that. they're even gonna have a nonbinary character named ziggy in nightmare time season 2 (possibly even NPMD) and they're even gonna be played by someone who's nonbinary!
I gotta say, the song where Jamilla sings about having to leave her tribe, she sings 'If they only knew, I did it for you, Zazillil!' (I know I'm spelling it wrong) But I fully expected that to be there, tbh. Otherwise 10/10
The relationships in Firebringer felt extremely fun and funny, yet natural, in TGWDLM it felt sweet and wholesome, but in Oregon it just felt so sad! I was totally in Cletus' corner and I really wish he got to marry his lover.
Wait wait wait a minute... when Bill talks about Alice he says she’s 18 but in Not Your Seed she says she’s 17 -how did it take me this long to notice this wtf
She says “I’m seventeen- at least I was before you left me” which could mean she was seventeen when the divorce/separation happened- seeing as she had been talking about her parents fighting just before that line (:
Answers to FAQ
1. Dumbledore, Quirrelmort, Scarfie, they're all in the video 'AVPM series but it's just the gay characters'.
ua-cam.com/video/qQ5u55-rguE/v-deo.html
2. Henry Hidgens is not explicitly said to be gay, it doesn't count. Though he does seem so to me, or at least very camp. Mannerisms do not a sexuality make.
3. McNamara is not shown to be gay, either. One line of dialogue that isn't even in the musical (and I didn't know about) is not representation. How could that be added to this video when it doesn't occur in the actual musical?
What was the line McNamara said that wasn't in the show?
Emma Hurst Nick Lang tweeted that Macnamara had a monologue cut where he mentioned his husband, and that they’re going to try to “fit more of MacNamara’s backstory into future projects.” (@NickLangTweets)
I love that you included part of that song from HMB lmaooo
VERONIKA ZIOUECHE and 💓💗🏳️🌈😍 *_chad_* 😍🏳️🌈💗💓
and now in nightmare time when Ted says that he lost the love of his life, Hidgens replies with "something like that happened to me once, it was with a boy named Chad"
so now, Hidgens is canon gay
FireBringer was a Bisexual ENERGY
Yesss
And poly
Or pan
It was a m a z i n g
Basically the entirety of Firebringer
I love how Jaime either plays teenagers or 40 year olds and the only in between is bugs and schwoopsie
Schwoopsie is eternal.
SCHWOOPSIE!
Firebringer is just gay rights tbh
Jemilla is a Polyamorous Bicon
Also McDoon
Or pansexual or polysexual.
Depends if anyone identified as non-binary, trans-male, or trans-female.
Frostywing non binary and trans people do count in bisexuality. The definition of bisexuality is attraction to two or more genders, and trans people count as their gender.
@@cartooncrazy9883 bisexual means attraction to two genders. That means you could be attracted to guys and non-binary peeps or you could be attracted to guys and gals or gals and non-binary pals. If you have the ability to be attracted to everyone regardless of gender, you are pansexual.
Trey Atkins common misconception! The bisexual manifesto published in 1990 says two or more genders. Pansexuals have a very similar or the same definition depending on who you ask but bisexuality has never meant only two, despite how the prefix makes it seem.
I love how bill doesn’t like deb because she’s a stoner, and not because he’s homophobic
Catie B i know right! it was so sweet, he clearly didn’t care at all she was gay, and not only talked about setting her up with a girl, but talked about it in the same way he would talk about her dating a boy, didn’t make a big deal of it at all.
He didn’t want her to be straight, he just thought that that she could do better
😊
He even suggested she date a different girl
Yeah, when I first watched it (it was my first starkid musical) I did a double take bc representation is usually rlly bad in media, and in tgwdlm its, like some ppl are saying, it wasnt a big basis, just something normal. It made me happy :3
shout to tiblin cuz her crush ended up being a alien
"My crush turned out to be an alien."
"That's rough, buddy."
Mood
My headcanon is that she is still in a long distance relationship with Chorn
@@teapot5533 meteors and stuff are just Chorn sending cute messages to it's girlfriend
@@suzannahe.h6596 awehshdjd
Y e s
Okay but i love how starkid musicals don’t make homosexuality a big deal or the basis of the whole show
Yeah! I think its great thats homosexuality is featured in their musicals, but no one talks about it because it should just be a good, normal thing now.
Love that it's casual!
I love that they make the good kind of gay jokes that are actually funny for queer folx
@@louwhoareyou1934 instead of like “god, I’m so lesbian, chad needs to stop mansplaining things to me, women aren’t stupid you know,”
I do, too! It's always so casual and just fits in. And no characters in-universe question it or even really mention it.
Alice and Bill story is so sad but so well written and realistic
BlueFridge I know! He just believes that she can do better than Deb!
Doodars Bill’s just bitter bc he couldn’t get into the smoke club
I mean apart from the alien apocalypse part
for real the first time i saw the musical i cried cause their relationship was so realistic
@@TheMurrmursonbottle well, you know the rules, your either in the smoke club, or your out!
Would you look at that, someone re-uploaded the entirety of firebringer
This is schwoopsie erasure
When you completely exclude jemilla's first wife: *a-schwoopsie*
Can we talk about how chorns pronoun is "it"
@cryptonomicaaa chorn is also an alien
Chorn exists outside our human notions of gender. We stan.
You really thought you could sneak all of Firebringer in there and we wouldn’t notice
Firebringer is one of my favorite Starkid musicals, in part because of the lesbian relationships in it.
I actually completely forgot about Tiblin’s crush on Chorn. I wish they had developed that more.
MY DAD'S GAY LOVER AND ALSO THE GAY BUS
i've never seen this clip before, which characters' gay dad are they referring to?? :D
hannah It was in reference to another show they had worked on.
@@cutiepuppy4427 Wich one?
Gillian Quigley yeah which one?
@@maeline1570 A college show called Summertime by Charles Mee. Julia Albain (Crabbe and Specs) directed and it had Darren, Bonnie, Joey, Lauren, and Jamie Lynn, among others.
Quirrellmort,,, Is Missing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Go look at the video on my channel called "AVPM series but it's just the gay characters". I promise I didn't forget about them. It would have made a really long video (30+ minutes) all together.
Ngl even as a gay woman, when bill said girlfriend I thought friend mostly because my grandma always calls her friends her girlfriends so now it's just the first thing that came to my mind, then immediately I realized that he ment girlfriend lol
it took an edit or a meme for me to realize deb and alice were dating and im a gay woman smh
I remember being like”YES GIRLFRIENDS” and then I was like” wait no it’s bill saying that” and then it was true and I was excited again
@@gabbisembini big "we got married but what if she meant it as friends"-lesbian vibes here
C.o.R (Lex) that will be me deadass
Hello other wlw
Zazz’s dance is trumped possibly only by Jemillas reaction
Jemilla reacting to Zazz dancing is literally just me anytime Lauren is allowed to play a woman tbh
Also, McNamera canonically has a husband! BRING ME MY POWERFUL GAY HUSBAND, HE DESERVES RECOGNITION
I should have read the pinned comment before I commented. Gomennesai my friend.
This is a very important question, is his husband president goodman
Starkid taught me to assume everyone's bi unless they tell you otherwise
I firmly believe that the only straight person in hatchetfield is Ted. No one else
Lea Fawcett alright we’ll compromise, everyone is at least bisexual
Ted had the he never made it back line though
Ted? “Fuckin go for it,” Ted? Oh he bi as hell
Bi until proven otherwise
@@laurasilva9007 saying "at least bi" is vaguely biphobic but I agree with you, none of them are straight
firebringer is probably the gayest musical i've ever seen
Ok but can we talk about the fact that, basically every time McDoon does the iconic 'bandit king' gesture, he uses his left hand (there's one exception but every other time)
But when he dies, it's his right hand?
So when it's a choice between letting go of Cleetus Jones or letting go of the one thing keeping him alive, he instinctively does the latter?
Because that makes me sad sometimes.
DAMN🥺
i’m crying in the club
Ayah13 Hey I saw you in Travis McElroy’s livestream the other day! When we were all asking him to talk about StarKid. Fancy seeing you here 😂
@@wompadillœ Oh hey! I think I saw you, too!
Someday we shall combine the fandoms and create the ultimate empire... none shall stand against us.
Ayah13 😂 I love it
I lowkey headcanon that after Firebringer, Zazz dates both Jemilla and Keeri, and also the two tribes become one tribe so Jemilla can have her wife Zazz and also have her husand and wife Clarke and Claire and her kids :)
andthewholeassaudiancebutokay
And then they murder her husbands and wives
@@thebananaowenslippedon7095 wait why are we killing them?
@@summer_the_rae that’s what happened eventually
Don't forget that we're all technically married to Jamilla
Woah you can't just throw the Bill/Alice storyline at me without the jokes in between the emotional bits
I'm crying now.
I 100% believe that soldier #3 (Robert) was gay for Prince Achmed
"No matter what happens you will always be a prince to me"
Not missing in the video since it's not actual representation, but I personally believe Paul to be bi to, because when Mr Davidson asks him what he wants, he replies with something along the lines of "a partner, kids maybe" and I think if Paul was straight, he would've said girlfriend
In one part he says "I don't know money, a partner"
I think he wanted either a wife or a girlfriend and he wasn't sure which one he wanted in life so he said partner.
He could also be bi tho.
i came for happy gay time and i left crying over alice and bill’s character arcs.
I mean, it wasn't shown in the play but McNamara has a husband. The had to cut the line
Wait, really? Did Jeff tweet that or something bc I really wanna know now!
@@soupsoup4245 Not Jeff but Nick Lang. It was a response on twitter I think
@@nano_verse7815 oh sick! I'll try looking for it!
Nano_Verse that’s so cool!! what was the line
@@defectivetictac6103 Don't think Nick actually said what the line was, just that there was one. Wish I could know (*>.
I JUST REALIZED BILL SAID ALICE CALLED GRACE A “NERDY PRUDE”
“NERDY PRUDES MUST DIE” OH M-
me: just watching this and loving it
*alice starts singing*
me: *sweats in lesbian*
Alternate title : Firebringer
If I can watch just ONE starkid musical live I swear to god I will die happy
Starkid doesn't make a character revolve only around their sexuality, that's something I love about starkid
Most movies or musicals that feature a gay character make their sexuality their only trait, that is their personality and it sucks.
Starkid normalises it, they make it look like a world where people can be gay and people don't start asking millions of questions, they just accept it. I wish the real world was like that sometimes
ngl the progression of zazzalil and jemilla's relationship was way better than emberly and grunt.
Well zazz and jamila were the main couple
Jezazzalil, aka the ceo of gay representation
The fact that autocaptions sometimes translates "Deb" as "death" like OK
“Bring death along, we’ll all see the show!”
Foreshadowing takes NO prisoners
i think tiblin deserved a song-wait no- i STRONGLY BELIEVE tiblin deserved a song!!
I don't remember Jemillah being married to Schwoopsie
To be fair it is kind of a throwaway line, Jamillah and Schwoopsie have very few meaningful interactions.
You forgot about Higgens because we all know a chaotic gay when we see one.
Me before clicking this video: "its gonna be the entirety of firebringer"
But? Dumbledore? Where?
oh never mind there is another video. Sorry
Probably doesn't actually count but there is also Esther from the "Solve it Squad".
Also ambien, she on it!
I have an apartment WITH a refrigerator. I have a girlfriend WITH a boyfriend.
I would pay more than $70 just to see a Starkid Productions show
firebringer really said gay rights
bold of you to assume that craphole isn't rampantly biromantic asexual
I mean he’s seven so there would be nothing sexual either way
I really want to make a joke and im far too proud but hes 7 anD i Don wAnnA bE Canceled
I really hope Craphole hasn’t had to experience anything sexual, he’s only seven... and male...
He did kiss the ox in that one show
@@drenchmedia5725 when I find a new object....
KIDS, what did *mommy* say about bothering *mommy* while *mommy* was busy?
*dON’t Do iT*
Everyone in fire bringer is pan and you can’t convince me otherwise
I’m so gay, I literally didn’t realize that Tiblin was doing a gay. It just didn’t register that it was two girls lmaooo.
I mean Chorn has it pronouns and I doubt that it has a gender but yeah still very gay xD
god as a part of the lgbtq+ i love starkids representation. they don't make a big deal out of the reveals, they don't make it their whole personality, they just treat them like normal people and i love that. they're even gonna have a nonbinary character named ziggy in nightmare time season 2 (possibly even NPMD) and they're even gonna be played by someone who's nonbinary!
thank you for not being a coward and acknowledging the large amounts of sexual tension in hmb
THANK YOU for including batman and superman. there is no way superman didnt have a crush on batman
I gotta say, the song where Jamilla sings about having to leave her tribe, she sings 'If they only knew, I did it for you, Zazillil!' (I know I'm spelling it wrong) But I fully expected that to be there, tbh. Otherwise 10/10
The relationships in Firebringer felt extremely fun and funny, yet natural, in TGWDLM it felt sweet and wholesome, but in Oregon it just felt so sad! I was totally in Cletus' corner and I really wish he got to marry his lover.
Firebringer fufilled everything I needed and wanted
Swoopsie?
I really didn't think of that.
Ashleigh Cranford It’s literally said that she was gay
Idk if Schwoopsie even knew she was married to Jamilla
L I L Y P A R K E R what?
Even_and_Todd I worded that badly - Schwoopsie didn’t act like she and Jemilla were married even though they technically were
BUT VOLDEMORT AND QUIRRLE???WHERE ARE THEY?!?!?!
There's another video just for the Harry Potter musicals
I'm so happy to see you put the performance of "To be a man" cause it is so gay it deserves to be in the video
Wait wait wait a minute... when Bill talks about Alice he says she’s 18 but in Not Your Seed she says she’s 17 -how did it take me this long to notice this wtf
She says “I’m seventeen- at least I was before you left me” which could mean she was seventeen when the divorce/separation happened- seeing as she had been talking about her parents fighting just before that line (:
Quirrellmort. Dumbledore
There's a whole other video for the AVPM series
Every single character in black Friday.
I remember when I first saw the Gay Bus clip and it was stuck in my head for MONTHS thank you for reminding me of Gay Bus during this quarantine
chorn an enby we love to see it
saw the title and was like so just all of firebringer? cool.
omg , grace chastity is a NERDY PRUDE!!!! FORESHADOWING!!! STARKID; I LOVE U AND YOUR EASTER EGGS
if the title was correct, then the entire Firebringer musical would be in it
I only just noticed Bill his phone case and now I love him even more
I'm very confused about the Dad's gay lover song but i'm LIVING FOR IT
You're just gonna do Professor Hidgens dirty like that.
10:41 falsettos joke
THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING HMB THAT WAS HILAROUS
Bold of you to not just re-upload the entirety of Firebringer.
3:24 why did i start crying
This while thing is just gay pnaick in music form. Lmaooo
GAY BUS THE GAY GAY BUS
I’m sad that professor Hidgens wasn’t in this. Never had a pairing but his entire song was gay af.
Ok but am I the only one who does the bandent king gesture along with joey?
Okay but I feel so bad for poor cleatus
I cannot believe dumbledore isn't here
I’m watching the gay stuff now
Can only do that right now though
With content like this you deserve SO much more subscribers ^w^
I just made the videos that I wanted but couldn't find. 😄
PlayingAtLife
^w^ Noice!!
Tbh the Holy Musical B@tman scene does just look like awkward foreplay out of and in context
This may be my fave vid on UA-cam ever lmao
SORTING HAT AND SCARF ERASURE
VOLDEMORT AND QUIRREL ERASURE
Ah yes, my gay children
Do you mean: All of my favourite characters?
I want to be all of their friends
Mcdoon’s?
Brenna hold on let me rewatch this so i understand context considering i posted this a while ago
The 6 dislikes are just from Draco Malfoy on separate accounts
5:15 the best moment I swear
You mean the whole firebringer musical?
ik it’s tbc not starkid but SPIES ARE FOREVER
There's also Esther in Solve It Squad
Ok, are we just going to pretend Quirrelmort doesn't exist
There's an extra video for them
(not gay, trans) Corey's character's owner in mamd!
...Corey's character was literally male genitalia and used he/him pronouns how was he trans lmao?
@@Ray-hk1zm i meant corey's character's former owner sorry :)
@@batenthusiast7515 OH yes!! I forgot about that!
I can’t believe you didn’t include Henry Hidgens smh
Henry Hidgens left the chat
agent curt mega stans rise up 👊😤
That's a Tin Can Bros production, not Starkid. I didn't think there were enough gay characters in Tin Can Bros plays to make a video of it.
ua-cam.com/video/Y2bQtUPBPHQ/v-deo.html You might like this.
where is mcnamara?
I love this video but... you left out Dumbledore my dude. Bruh 😂
Its in annothsr video
I don't really wanna do the work today.