As a professional musician and teacher, I will agree to a point that the amount of time is very important. But some students put in time and are not very much better after that practice time is done, and others benefit much more from the same amount of time. The difference might be talent, but also more due to the quality of practice. The focus, the goal setting, the application of music theory to their performance practice. And the practice of performing regularly in front of audiences. Just some thoughts.
I completely agree with you. I was a bari sax player at a fine arts school and the regular performance in front of both peers and public audiences definitely provided more motivation to practice. That way it felt as though I was presenting my hard work rather than always being so critical of myself which would have inevitably ended up in ceasing practice. That and the regular critiques from peers helped with getting different perspectives since they were the one's hearing the music the way it is supposed to be heard.
having memories from long ago pop uo into awareness as am playing piano is amazing vivid images esp so i imagine am somehow accessing the countless mems and the music acts like a search engine -
What makes some musicians better than others? Focus and Practice. Letting yourself to fall into the Silver Stream. Called "Moving Meditation." It's also called OCD.
i believe music is one of the best inventions on Earth without it maybe we couldnt express our selfes ( thats why there is a type of music for every emottion )... nice work by the way
Astronomy was seen as the study of relationships between observable, permanent, external objects, and music was seen as the study of relationships between invisible, internal, hidden objects.
Hi Music wasnt invented. It always was- as Lucifer was the head of worship in heaven before time began. God gave us this gift and it is innate in every human:)
The thesis about 10K hrs is fallacious. To most people it will take 10K hrs only to reach the level of Mozart when he was 14, and still they will not be able to write symphonies. Yes, work is absolutely necessary, but those conservatory students were intepreters. Playing Chopin and being a Chopin are 2 different things. And this is not only valid for music; it takes a talent to be a super car mechanic.
The only role MEDICINE plays in the lives of patients is to delay their death somewhat Medicine does not dictate musical taste musical talent or musical mastery. That is cognitive neuroscience not clinical medicine
The last point about "talent" talks about a test that shows students who put in most time (for practice etc) were the best. But how do you define "talent"? Playing Chopin note for note is one thing, but coming up with the idea to write a song like "I Wanna Be Sedated" by the Ramones is another. It's more creative to create an original song than learn another. And I wonder how that factors into their definition of "talent"? Steve Wonder says he put in 10,000 hours to get where he is, but I do believe there is a great deal of creative ability you're just born with... and gets untapped through the work. Regarding Mozart, I don't like the idea of suggesting the works recorded/played by Mozart are "better" -- Top 40 rarely shows the best "talent" or "quality" in music. Very rarely do I judge worth by the mass exposure it gets... Interesting talk though.
Playing music note by note can be done in a 1000 defferent ways. And people that you are talking about (ramones for example) are just musicians that put a lot of hard work into music and also had a background that helped them write a certain kind of music that resonated with a lot of people. Is ramones more talented than a indie synthrockwhatever band that you've never heard of? Maybe, maybe not. Consider this. Why you like a song and why you would call the writer talanted is an entirely different reason to why I might like it, and some people will find that same song talantless and empty. It is not about being born a certain way, it is about relating to someone through hours of hard work that make people call you talented. Times and tastes change and what people find good changes. If you are going to look for any kind of objectivity to talent becides pure work than good luck to you, but I wouldn't det my hopes up. Also creativity is really just clever copying. There's a saying "Good artists copy, great ones steal"
So? My musical abilities are innate whilst my drawing skills are learned since preschool? I can remember music exactly note by note and can draw the most abstract pieces the mind can conduct; I can translate the music I hear into an abstract art piece 9 times out of 10.
I had even borrowed once his book to read from a local library and now I re-realised why I stopped reading it. Content is nice but so verbal, in this age of that attention grabbing everywhere, it's hard to keep one focused on whether it's a speech or text. I would have preferred this speech to be a presentation, with visual elements helping spectators. If you grant me the rights, I can convert this speech into a presentation with AI generated images on some parts and publish.
Not everything needs to be dissected, analyzed, categorized, deconstructed, measured and "explained" or "demystified". Some things are magical and mysterious and are best appreciated that way, for the epiphinous, the transcendent and the awe. Just stop it. Leave it alone. The connection is with the heart not the monkey brain.
As a musician, I understand where you're coming from but I fundamentally disagree with your idea that there are some things that we should not try to understand. I do like ur pfp tho
As a professional musician and teacher, I will agree to a point that the amount of time is very important. But some students put in time and are not very much better after that practice time is done, and others benefit much more from the same amount of time. The difference might be talent, but also more due to the quality of practice. The focus, the goal setting, the application of music theory to their performance practice. And the practice of performing regularly in front of audiences. Just some thoughts.
I completely agree with you. I was a bari sax player at a fine arts school and the regular performance in front of both peers and public audiences definitely provided more motivation to practice. That way it felt as though I was presenting my hard work rather than always being so critical of myself which would have inevitably ended up in ceasing practice. That and the regular critiques from peers helped with getting different perspectives since they were the one's hearing the music the way it is supposed to be heard.
having memories from long ago pop uo into awareness as am playing piano is amazing vivid images esp so i imagine am somehow accessing the countless mems and the music acts like a search engine -
What makes some musicians better than others? Focus and Practice. Letting yourself to fall into the Silver Stream. Called "Moving Meditation." It's also called OCD.
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what an amazing talk!
i believe music is one of the best inventions on Earth without it maybe we couldnt express our selfes ( thats why there is a type of music for every emottion )... nice work by the way
Astronomy was seen as the study of relationships between observable, permanent, external objects, and music was seen as the study of relationships between invisible, internal, hidden objects.
Hi
Music wasnt invented. It always was- as Lucifer was the head of worship in heaven before time began.
God gave us this gift and it is innate in every human:)
Agree
Reading his book right now, by the same name - This Is Your Brain on Music
What an excellent class!!!!
my teacher made me watch this im currently in physical pain
SAME
SAME LMFAOOO
I hope y'all end up thanking them in the near future, this is a great talk; besides, Dr Levitin is a great teacher
@@williamvargas7218 thinking and using your brain are becoming lost arts...don't let it happen to you!!
im glad my teacher told me about this
Same!
The thesis about 10K hrs is fallacious. To most people it will take 10K hrs only to reach the level of Mozart when he was 14, and still they will not be able to write symphonies. Yes, work is absolutely necessary, but those conservatory students were intepreters. Playing Chopin and being a Chopin are 2 different things. And this is not only valid for music; it takes a talent to be a super car mechanic.
Will "medicine" ever allow people to "choose their own music" before surgery and more? How wonderful.
The only role MEDICINE plays in the lives of patients is to delay their death somewhat Medicine does not dictate musical taste musical talent or musical mastery. That is cognitive neuroscience not clinical medicine
Absolutely wonderful
I still remember SpongeBob SquarePants on the tele after and before the surgery I went through as an infant; I had pyloric stenosis.
The last point about "talent" talks about a test that shows students who put in most time (for practice etc) were the best. But how do you define "talent"? Playing Chopin note for note is one thing, but coming up with the idea to write a song like "I Wanna Be Sedated" by the Ramones is another. It's more creative to create an original song than learn another. And I wonder how that factors into their definition of "talent"? Steve Wonder says he put in 10,000 hours to get where he is, but I do believe there is a great deal of creative ability you're just born with... and gets untapped through the work. Regarding Mozart, I don't like the idea of suggesting the works recorded/played by Mozart are "better" -- Top 40 rarely shows the best "talent" or "quality" in music. Very rarely do I judge worth by the mass exposure it gets... Interesting talk though.
Playing music note by note can be done in a 1000 defferent ways. And people that you are talking about (ramones for example) are just musicians that put a lot of hard work into music and also had a background that helped them write a certain kind of music that resonated with a lot of people. Is ramones more talented than a indie synthrockwhatever band that you've never heard of? Maybe, maybe not. Consider this. Why you like a song and why you would call the writer talanted is an entirely different reason to why I might like it, and some people will find that same song talantless and empty. It is not about being born a certain way, it is about relating to someone through hours of hard work that make people call you talented. Times and tastes change and what people find good changes. If you are going to look for any kind of objectivity to talent becides pure work than good luck to you, but I wouldn't det my hopes up.
Also creativity is really just clever copying. There's a saying "Good artists copy, great ones steal"
So? My musical abilities are innate whilst my drawing skills are learned since preschool? I can remember music exactly note by note and can draw the most abstract pieces the mind can conduct; I can translate the music I hear into an abstract art piece 9 times out of 10.
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*writes down the Doctor/Joni Mitchell joke*
I had even borrowed once his book to read from a local library and now I re-realised why I stopped reading it. Content is nice but so verbal, in this age of that attention grabbing everywhere, it's hard to keep one focused on whether it's a speech or text. I would have preferred this speech to be a presentation, with visual elements helping spectators. If you grant me the rights, I can convert this speech into a presentation with AI generated images on some parts and publish.
Not everything needs to be dissected, analyzed, categorized, deconstructed, measured and "explained" or "demystified". Some things are magical and mysterious and are best appreciated that way, for the epiphinous, the transcendent and the awe. Just stop it. Leave it alone. The connection is with the heart not the monkey brain.
As a musician, I understand where you're coming from but I fundamentally disagree with your idea that there are some things that we should not try to understand. I do like ur pfp tho