THE TRUTH BEHIND THE MGK/SLIPKNOT BEEF
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2021
- MGK (Machine Gun Kelly) trashed Corey Taylor and Slipknot from the stage at Riotfest, then Corey Taylor responded with receipts about his verse on MGK's album "Tickets To My Downfall." Who was right, and what does it mean? And who won the beef?
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... and on tomorrow’s episode we discuss “Drake” now considered as famous as Michel Jackson? Also the beef between him & Kanye
Do you play any instruments?
I type like that…
Btw nobody said he failed at rap, people are saying Eminem buried him so he went to rap so seems you are the idiot, not everyone else
Nothing against your video but you can’t just keep giving this loser (MGK) any clout or views. Your channel will outlast him. Don’t do anymore updates on this
MGK talking about how lame it is for 50 year olds to be wearing masks on stage, while also being 31 years old trying to pretend like he’s in high school is the height of cringe. Not even a Slipknot fan, just think it’s less lame to wear masks than being middle aged writing songs about high school.
Spot on!
I agree with you, but they are both cringe tbh, have you heard Coreys solo album? CMFT Must be stopped is pure cringe
Not too mention MGK is 31 wearing pearls on his face and neck while rocking a pink dress but hey wearing a mask is lame right? Lol
I've been thinking the same thing..
31 years is not "middle-aged" lol. Although I agree with the rest.
Lmfao MGK giving Corey Taylor advice on vocals that’s the funniest thing I’ve heard in a long time.
Mgk can't even fucking sing that's just too funny
Seriously, not too many metal voices better. Dude can scream and sing. Usually a vocalist can do one or the other, but not both
He did?
Dis why I didn’t like mgk that much
That’s the thing, I always feel like I’m laughing AT MGK, not with him… 😆
MGK was playing at Louder Than Life festival last Saturday and he got booed off of stage. So many people were pissed off
Haha! That's Awesome!!!
lol he didn't get booed off stage
Yeah I'm a huge Slipknot fan but MGK didn't get booed off the stage..lol
@@brandonlytle9392 that’s cause you have a brain unlike most people lol
Why would his management ever put him in that position, his team is unenlightened. It's not your type of crowd . What a jackass I'm glad he deserves everything coming his way. He's such a d-bag. That's great hahahah
It's definitely a bad move to get involved in "alternative" music and then mock people for being "weird" or liking "weird" things. Being mocked for being an outcast is definitely a sore spot for a lot of people who are drawn to that type of music, especially the younger fans.
but wasn't this the same image he wanted to see
MGK is just jealous because people were walking out of his show to go watch Slipknot. Slipknot give one Hell of a live performance. Definitely more entertaining than what MGK could ever offer
I watched the Slipknot set hardly anything out of the ordinary or exciting. They had blinky lights ....
@@mikekristin7201 you were in the way back of the stage then 😂
I would leave an MGK show to watch The Wiggles if they were playing nearby.
@@dylanarthur5526 definitely!
@@dylanarthur5526 same fruit salad is a bop
MGK causing minor drama keeps him relevant too. He's got no reason to bite his tongue when it keeps him in the minds of the scene.
I don't think it's an issue of relevancy given he's on a sold out arena tour, was on the VMAs etc. It's similar sorta shit that happened with Eminem; he heard shade coming his way and reacted quickly and irrationally leading to backlash bc he can't handle his personal beefs well. If he wanted to make a statement about ct at riot fest he shoulda just dropped the facts about the collab there and called it a day lol
Exactly. Nothing new for him. He’s smart with it too by creating drama in different scenes with different fanbases. The recent scuffle with Conor McGregor and the whole Eminem beef show that.
@@ThePredator311 I swear beef is scripted like WWE lol
Id say Corey Taylor is pretty notorious for doing the same. Hes constantly talking crap about other artists. And I'm saying this as a fan of slipknot. Just gets old.
@@jdigga24 agreed. Corey Taylor is the type of person that says why do you listen to Nickelback or Poets of the Fall or Chicago that isn't real rock that is soft
His management failed him by booking him into festivals that aren't catering to his core fan base, which is younger and typically teens. Slipknot was booked into Riot Fest because NIN dropped out. If NIN played, people still would have left his set. He wasn't the headliner.
He has no core fans
@@michaeltamares7974 only the 13 year old girls who don’t get enough attention from their dad
Forgot to add that Slipknot puts on one hell of a fucking show. The energy of it is unmatched.
I saw them at aftershock and must say they were the only band that gave an encore the night they headlined. Not Blink, not Tool. Have to respect the love they give to their fans.
Didn't realize this started because MGK could see the people leaving his set to watch Slipknot 😂 what a baby
yeah definitely big baby energy but sounds like it really isn't where it started. Corey Taylor sneak dissed him on the podcast. the original rejection was cordial and MGK could have been salty since then but I mean Corey technically made it public. I mean a douchey guy like MGK isn't going to take it lightly. he's just been hella cringe about it.
Try again again, corey taylor was a cry baby because mgk took him off his album and then corey when on an interview amd talked shit about him but he wasn't talking shit when they were originally gonna be on the album together, corey's just salty because mgk thought his verse was bad🤷🏼♂️ And tbh mgk has balls for calling him out on stage because slipknot has so many dickrider in other words "maggots" that will just support them in any situation, even the ones that they are wrong in like this one for example, buddy almost 48 and just sad the youth don't care about him
@@user-pm5my9zq7j mgk didn't took him off lol
@XYZ well I literally just explained exactly what happend in my last comment, not some made up version of the story to make slipknot sound less corny then they are. And yes corey was gonna be on mgks album until mgk said he hated corey's verse and didn't want to use it on the album and corey didn't wanna redo it so hate to break it to ya that's mgk refusing his verse🤣 Metal heads just don't wanna accept the truth to that
@@user-pm5my9zq7j Did you not watch the video?? There are screenshots of Corey dropping out of the track himself! Kelly didn't "take him off the album" because "his verse sucked". Corey declined because he didn't like how they were trying to rewrite and essentially change his part to better fit Kelly's shitty sound. These brain-dead MGK and rap fans never see the bigger picture, but I guess that's what happens when they listen to infantile music that dumbs them down.
The funny thing is, Metal fans will see all this, soak it all up, talk non stop about it, get heavily involved in the drama and then be like, "pop is dumb, it's full of drama, that's why I listen to metal."
the funny thing is, pop fans make fun of metal fans for calling people like MGK posers and for rejecting them but here we are
Eh, I don't think so. I love Slipknot and it was entertaining for a good 24 hours but over it now. Sure, it might come up from time to time because it occurred against the most vocal individual in metal but for most part, it's done.
@@vincenthamilton09 I respect that. Ps, I'm a huge Metal fan and have been listening to Slipknot since 2000. I just get tired of everyone obsessing over anything to do with Corey Taylor, cuz I would like to see the genre grow and new artists take the baton into the future.
Do they ever say that? Cause there has always been drama in the metal scene, like Ozzy vs. Sabbath or Mustaine vs. Metallica, and fans love it.
Thank you bro! You’re like the only self aware person talking about this shit 🤦♂️
Taylor: We should be encouraging everything
Also Taylor: I hate all new rock for the most part
Goes to show how crazy the rock and metal community is like
And thats why rock is dead/dying.
@@sadboipotato3382 i just saw slipknot on wednesday and Corey Taylor said something like “all you guys our fans our family prove that metal is not dead and anyone who says metal is dead CAN SUCK MY FUCKING DICK” lol he is a great stage man the audience went crazy me included haha
@@sadboipotato3382 concert ticket sales disagree
@@tomkat4480 Concert tickets to bands that have been around for years. What's gonna happen when all the old headliners kick it? Slayer is done already. The guys in Slipknot have already talked about retirement. Once the big dudes are done, the scene will go underground.
Mgk throwing out the "old man card" He literally hangs out with Travis barker 24/7 who is only 2 years younger then corey..... lmao
Never thought about that . Good eye haha
Does travis put on a mask and pretend to be a depressed monster tho? Ya didn't think so, mgk didn't make fun of him because he's old, he made fun of him because he's old, jealous and corny
@@user-pm5my9zq7j what is he jealous about? And "mgk didn't make fun of him because he's old, he made fun of him because he's old".... wtf you smoking? Lmao
@@user-pm5my9zq7j agreed MGK is def jealous and corny . That’s how he will be remembered
@joecormier I'm saying mgk didn't just make fun of him for his age he made fun of him for other things too, wasn't too hard to understand imo, and corey is jealous that mgk is a guy way younger then him and newer to rock but he still said corey's verse was trash and refused to use it on his album and that made corey Butt hurt, mgk ain't got nothin to be jelous of
Honestly that coordination between Corey and Travis indicated to me that Corey was being very polite and protecting his brand. If Corey was just doing pre-written features on anyone’s track without having his own artistic freedom, then he’d probably lose credibility and his artistic vision would be in question.
Exactly! It might sound like a douche move from someone who doesn't know Corey, but when you get to a certain level of credibility you just have to gatekeep your own brand and say no a lot. It might piss some people off, but it is what it is. Successful people delegate and say no a lot.
I mean imagine seeing MGK featuring Corey Taylor. Just no. FUCK MGK
@@MGWPS462 If you don’t like their music or personalities, that’s fine. But it could have been interesting to see what Corey would have brought to an MGK song if he had fought for it a bit more. Obviously in the end, he didn’t think he was a good fit for the song, which I can respect. Sometimes those creative visions don’t align, and you’d rather not embark on trying to make them align. Sometimes it’s not worth the time. MGK had more to gain than Corey, IMO. It just didn’t make sense, and that’s where things should have ended.
If you stop and empathize with him, you can see MGK obviously idolizes a guy like Corey with all the compliments he was giving, but he was probably really hurt when he found out Corey didn’t want to feature. I don’t think email and having Barker be the middle-man did justice for expressing Corey’s reasoning towards backing out. MGK is likely just taking things personally because he’s constantly on the receiving end of a lot of personal attacks. Some people are not going to like you-and you just have to learn not to take it personally; otherwise, you just build up this animosity and anger. People don’t have to like you, but that’s not inherently *your* problem, it’s *theirs*, and you can find constructive feedback out of that, and just be the best you can be.
@@DylanChau I agree to a certain extent and also thank you for coming at me with an intelligent response. But I guess all I was saying is that MGK has a track record of pissing off the wrong people. Eminem and now Slipknot, and I'm sure that there are more that just haven't been made as public. I agree that MGK probably does idolize a guy like Corey, but what it sounds like to me is that MGK got upset that Corey didn't want to do the vocals on his album and MGK was sour about it and then just started whining about it on stage. All Corey did was show proof that he wasn't the liar in this particular situation.
@@MGWPS462 Yep, Corey responded politely at least from what we know, and I think he did what he was supposed to. Obviously he gave a legitimate attempt and didn’t just throw shade at MGK-he had legitimate interest in working with him, so for MGK to behave the way he did was certainly not the mature thing. Corey has been through plenty of beef for many more years than MGK, so he’s thick skinned and has his own fair share “why did I say that” moments, so I think some of the wisdom comes with the experience, although he’s still no saint.
Either way, MGK has some wisdom to gain, and hopefully he gets there. From a business perspective, he’s keeping himself in the game, so there’s that. Drama sells, and maybe he stirs things up on purpose sometimes, but I have a feeling his personality is just like that, too. He’s got something to say, he wants the clout and validation from those he idolizes, but I’m sure we all can relate to that in one way or another. So I can empathize, but disagree with his behavior.
"So anyway what's everyone's favorite candy" LMAO MGK is a child.
Well yeah that's just fact
Guess he wanted to make a transition to his track "jawbreaker" But who likes those for real ?
@@nasmokt they come up with ANYTHING 😂💯
@@nasmokt yeah its either introducing Candy with trippie redd or jawbreaker
I was really waiting for the whole crowd to go "EMINEM"
I was there (at slipknot's stage, duh) and I'm glad Corey didn't play into it during the set. I didn't find out about MGK's diss until the next day, which is great because I got to enjoy my first Slipknot set without the BS
He's having a beef with Corey now? Can't wait to hear his country album next year.
He would be at it with all the "country boys"
@@bushdude82 or what about a mgk kpop debut album
@@aesopruntz6535 then he'll have Kim Jong-Un to worry about
Lol. Dude really has a death wish for his own career!
@@bushdude82 no worries he will make a diss track with " ur tummy's weird"
One of my younger coworkers told me about this today, and “boom” you already have a video to explain it. Thank you for helping gen x stay in the know.
Good Guy Finn always helping the elderly 🤙🏽
Thanks for watching!
Is this Jen?
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA I'm a huge MGK fan. He's sensitive. And has no filter. It's definitely hurt his career in some aspects but it also makes him who he is. FUCK being PC. Imo. But Corey posting "receipts" was just as 'bad' or JUST LIKE HIM soooo.. I like how you presented this. Great job. You earned my sub ☑️
It's going to be interesting at Rebel Rock this weekend with MGK headlining Friday night in front of a bunch of metal heads. Wouldn't surprise me if he gets a shit reception and walks off the stage. But to MGK's favor, he's headlining due to Limp Bizkit and Incubus cancelling. At least he doesn't have to worry about someone else playing while he is due to all the cancellations.
People don't say mgk failed at rap people say Eminem killed his rap career when mgk dissed him and em killed him in return and it looks like he's about to do the same thing with Cory, dude has gone after two of the biggest most respected names in their respective music genres and is taking an L every time it might keep him relevant for now but mgk will never have the legacy Eminem and Slipknot have
He's in his own lane. He doesn't have to have a legacy like those guys.
@@The-Endo-SymArmor every musician needs a legacy it's what keeps them relevant well after the band stops making music and even after they die this is why people still know artist like Elvis and the Beatles were, if you don't have a legacy no one will remember you or your music a year after you retire why do you think he started beef in the first place so he wasn't forgotten he has to start beef because his music and his personality aren't good enough to do it on there own
@@MrDekasOne that's your opinion. I like his music but I respect your opnion.
@@The-Endo-SymArmor its not an opinion its a fact
@@Divine_Blue in your view
Corey Taylor is a mastermind. He’s been in the music business since the 90s and is still in everyday headlines
what fucking headlines???
@@extrememetalunderground lol you must live under a rock.
Headlines🤣 He just beef with the youth because he wanna stay relevant, nothing to be proud about
Yes he stays in the headline by firing band members that have been in the band for decades for no reason like with Chris and picking fights with other bands and artists and calls them talentless(which is ironic coming from a very generic nu-metal artist who's music really pushes the boundries of what constitutes music from post production droning and noise)
@@0326Vet "generic Nu-metal" you clearly never heard slipknot, so don't talk.
also if I remember correctly, wasn't MGK kind of always in the pop punk warped tour scene? he did a song with Sleeping With Sirens in 2013, and I'm pretty sure his rap music was always kind of pop punk inspired.
Yep. Took the words right out of my mouth.
Very true but 50 year old maggots don't know anything about that
@@user-pm5my9zq7j it always annoys me when people say he switched genres because he got dissed so hard, he was heading that direction anyways. he toured with fall out boy a few years ago and I saw him in concert when he was opening for fall out boy.
@@user-pm5my9zq7j and yet I don't see him as a relevant or solid name in pop punk/rock music. I've also heard that he's a douche to his male fans. Apparently he only cares about the fans that have vaginas.
The thing is who cares?
You can tell where Corey's respect level is with MGK. Corey did the screaming part for Ronnie on Drugs no problem no need to ask again and Ronnie wrote that whole verse with the intentions of doing it himself. I think Corey was respectfully telling MGK whatever he wanted him to do sucked ass and he didn't want to be associated with it anymore. Sometimes artists try to tell each other in the nicest way that what you want me to do or be on fucking sucks so they say I don't think I'm the right guy for it and it's all good. Lol
There's a difference tho....Ronnie is a cool dude and MGK is a douche canoe
@@MGWPS462 🤣
It's the professional version of "tight set, dude" or "looks like you guys were having a lot of fun up there?!"
Exactly
Corey Taylor was in the nostalgia critics awful pink Floyd the wall parody tho
Finn: “I don’t know what song he is talking about.”
Clearly states the title of the track on top.
Finn is more concerned about the clothes then the music
@@quattrobajeena135 no
@@theirishpotato6588 yes yes he is. He is more concerned about what clothes a person wears from a certain scene more then the music
@@quattrobajeena135 no. He cares about both. A band's image and marketing and music, etc is what he cares about
@@theirishpotato6588 correct but he cares about them in order you listed. Music should come first but that’s just me. It just seems rather childish to care about the other things
I love how even when you talk about petty drama, you put it all in context and give plenty of lessons for the rest of us. It’s not just “WOAH-OH, PEOPLE ARE MAD ABOUT MGK,” it’s more about the real consequences of making enemies.
He didn't "fail" at rap, Eminem just told him to stop and he said yes sir Mr. Eminem sir. 😆
gonna be the same with rock cause of slipknot
Mgk said hes been wanting to make a pop punk album way before that tho
@@glenndanzigsmanycats2045 It was just a joke. 👍
@@SolarDNA well given that everyone keeps saying it seriously its kinda hard to tell
He’s goint to Nashvill and start over.
Has MGK ever looked good in any beef he’s been in? Cory’s takes usually give me boomer energy too.
The G Easy beef he was good in, even dissed him on a Hot 97 freestyle. The McGregor beef he didn't have to lift a finger and McGregor ended up apologizing and inviting him to a show. When he battles older more beloved music artist tho he's gonna lose.😆
Not really, MGK usually just looks like the kid who gets offended easily and can't move on from things. Corey shouldn't talk as much as he does but he is constantly prompted by the media to do so because they know it gets clicks. People want to know his thoughts whether it's to use it to form their own opinions or to just shit on the dude. Either way, he is in a tough place and should probably take some PR couching lol.
He takes Ls. But they don't affect his career negatively.
@@Someonesburner404 agreed. Dudes a walking L but a successful one.
@@Someonesburner404 What most people forget is that (almost) all press is good press. He’s just pulling from the Fred Durst rule book. And here we are talking about it, which means it’s working
My girlfriend and I are from/live in Cleveland, and we really enjoyed how accurate/funny your description of Clevelanders and the W.117 rapid station was.
That part was pretty fucking great. Not gonna lie. 😂 I live about 45 minutes from Cleveland myself.
MGK is just generating beef for advertising, that's always been his M.O
Finn, I don't know what most of your audience wants but I would love to just hear you analyze what's going on what has happened in the music industry. I tend to watch all your videos when they come out, regardless, but my favourite are the ones that give insight into why things happen the way they have. If you never made another video about this drama and conflict between musicians I would be happy. After watching it all, it just kind of leaves me with this annoyed feeling. Not annoyed at you but annoyed that I fell into the trap of engaging with this nonsense.
The answer isn't all that complicated??
People today like to be "TOLD" what's good, right, or popular.
Hence why you have a rapper playing a pink guitar looking like the 5th Golden Girl out of left field. He's only here because of Travis Barker. Anyone of his songs could be cut with just 1 person, it's all electronic fluff.
Yet, he's throwing shade at Corey who is actually talented as fuck who can go from screaming correctly with a mask on, to singing totally amazing acoustically playing his guitar solo.
Ask yourself, does MGK have the balls to sing Snuff, looking through the glass, and some others like Corey does without his bullshit saturated mic?
This x10000000000000
Sometimes you just have to extract the lessons from the drama.
This is related to the music industry from a marketing point of view.
It's a branding lesson on what not to do if you're trying to expand your audience.
All y'all make very good points
Corey has had these boomer moments for awhile now and I blame a lot of the media outlets for it. Every time he would get in an interview they would ask the dude his opinions on things and now it's just an automatic response from him. I also agree with your take on Travis probably not being super stoked on this, I'd imagine a good amount of collabs from the rock/metal work for MGK will be coming from industry respect for Travis and the reaction from MGK will rub a lot of those people the wrong way. Also, I think it's a different mindset between the two dudes. Corey (a lot of other metal artists included) busted ass in the metal/rock scene to get to where both of his bands are/were and got to this "legend" status from it all and seeing someone make the jump from one genre to the other while making fairly shallow music is frustrating for these guys. The number one thing I see in comment sections from the MGK stans is his commercial success being greater than that of Slipknot while ignoring that fact albums like Iowa have gone platinum in multiple countries dating back to when streaming platforms weren't even remotely close to being thought of. A lot of bad takes on both sides though, one just has the longer career to back up their thoughts and feelings in the genre I guess.
I agree
Boomer moments. He’s not quite that old.😂 Cant say I disagree with your view.👍
Also as for alienating, Fin's spot on. I and many of my friends were super stoked about Mgk doing the pop punk stuff, but as soon as this stuff came out, everyone of us just unfollowed him on IG and Spotify ( my friends were the first to inform me). Now, knowing how much fans Slipknot have outside US( us being from outside as well), this might be a problem for Mgk. I think the best thing for him is to just apologize to Slipknot. I'm not saying Corey's right too, but you can't take on on someone you can't handle. He knows that very well with Em on hip hop. While Slipknot isn't that popular as Em, but in metal, they're one of the giants and if he wants some rock and metal audience, he needs to just apologize.
@@91GT347 Anyone can have a boomer moment, I'm 29 and have caught myself doing some pretty boomer shit. Difference being I corrected the behavior lol.
@@LEGiTdistortion of course like I said, I'm from outside US too, and I can say with guarantee that they're huge
Finn. The drama is ok to cover as long as you cover the positive stuff too, which you do man. All good!
Hey Finn, for what it's worth I really enjoy your videos on new music and your interviews with new artists. Until I discovered your channel I was very close-minded and negative to anything that wasn't ''proper metal''. Now I really enjoy emo rap, hyper pop, all the new pop-punk, and pop in general. Thank you for opening my mind and helping me be more positive towards different genres and artists.
Thank you!
MGK is what you get when you order Ronnie Radke on wish, Ronnie transition's genres effortlessly in one song several times and AND has Corley Taylor verse on one of his tracks.
I like both mgk and ronnie Radke
Imo they both make good music but one is acting like a grumpy ol boomer and the other is acting like he was born in 2003 when he's 31. Tho MGK is gonna lose any beefs against artists of higher status bc he can't construct his points without sounding like a salty teenager
THIS. I love MGK, been following him for a LONG time but this shit is just so childish and petty
Mgk makes good music. Please tell me your joking
@@jenniferphillippi1715 I think he makes good music. Everyone is allowed to like what you dislike
Mgk and good lol
@@LuciusGeronimo I'm sorry but there is way better pop punk then mgk like listen to the offspring that is actually music
Music aside, MGK just seems like the most non-authentic person ever. So many gimmicks. That’s why it is hard for me to be a fan of his work.
I feel like the teacher saying "Do I have to separate you two?"
Seriously, though, the way Corey bowed out was very respectful, and he even wished them the best and told them they do good stuff. MGK's reaction to that was very immature.
Yeah, Corey Taylor is pretty much a heavy music legend now. Give it another decade, and people may be mentioning him alongside James Hetfield, Kerry King, and Lemmy. That is not a bridge MGK should burn! Having Taylor on his track would have been a good promotion, but MGK is popular enough not to need it. If Corey bailed on a no name looking for exposure, that would be very different.
I enjoy your content that covers the drama. You can look at the drama from both ends and give good and honest commentary through it. You're not shitting on either one of them so this is great coverage. I'd keep this sort of thing coming. Hell you should give commentary on former notorious beefs. I'm here for it lmao
I totally agree with this! Most channels that cover beef/drama tend to be hella biased.
As long as they don’t patch up their differences on stage before a Slipknot song with him joining in, I don’t mind them beefing like teenagers at all.
This would be amazing!
@@rocknmetalultima it would be, I'd love to hear MGK butcher an attempt at Spit it Out.
MGK starts drama to stay relevant because his music isn’t strong enough to stand on its own.
Yep you're right
He should just grab a shotgun and pull a Kurt Cobain on himself
@@jenniferphillippi1715 Chill
@@jenniferphillippi1715 Ooooh the edge.
@@LuciusGeronimo sorry I just don't like him okay he's a poser that thinks he's punk even though he probably doesn't know the meaning of the word punk
I think one of the main reasons why his raps albums did fairly okay is because of the amount of features on them. They're LITTERED with features from everyone.
Yea, even his first album had tons of features on it.
You mean people from his own lick and group he ran with. Cause he didn't do features with big names so that has nothing to do with his albums doing good. People don't wanna give mgk respect in any form and it's silly. This dude had a whole movement before signing with bad boy.
@@noodlez4052 I'm not saying that he wasn't popular before any of this but he's had features from big artists since the beginning lmao. The man came out the gate with Waka Flocka, Lil Jon, DMX, and Tech N9ne on his first album. That will get anyones attention regardless of how good or bad the music is wtf. Then his pop punk album had TRAVIS BARKER on the drums. You can't get any bigger than that in pop punk lmao. Kudos to Kells, he made it work. But to suggest that features had no part in his success is crazy. Binge has almost no features on it and it's his worst EP commercially. And ironically, his most successful album is still Lace Up, which has the most features out of any of his albums. Coincidence?
@@TheDude044 No it didn't though. TTMD is number one,Lace up was number 4 so no it isn't his most successful album. None of those feature songs did shit but Wild Boy though. It was his speedy rap flow that got people listening to him back then not the features.Yeah he's always been a big Blink 182 fan so no surprise to have travis on drums but that doesn't make the lyrics and everything shine just cause travis is there. Otherwise we'd just have a drum track with nothing else. then you mention binge which was him at a low depression state it's lack of features had nothing to do with it not being up to standards.
@@TheDude044 mgk doesn’t get commercial success because his music is too personal and dark. you’d never find a song like merry go round on the radio because it’s a fucked up song but a masterpiece
This is the first video I've watched on any of your channels. You seem like a down to earth guy. You don't take sides, not biased, honest, and chill af. You just gained a new sub, doesn't mean shit since you're pretty well known now, but I hope it counts. Keep up the great content, don't change, and I Def will not skip when it comes to ads on your videos. Pay that mortgage my friend.
Thank you! I appreciate every sub!
The more MGK opens his mouth, the less I care lol
People going to that rock fest with that lineup weren't going there for MGK, straight up. Chances are they won't even hear about this beef, I stumbled upon this only b/c I follow this channel lol.
I know several people who went for MGK above everyone else on the bill🤷♂️ they're wrong but they did lol
@@SkilletTRO Right on. No shade from me, I think it's good to have more mainstream acts to drive participation.
The ones under 28 were going for mgk, anyone older probably not
I think this was a balanced assessment and the first one that mentions the backstory beginning with CT's podcast interview. Everyone just assumes MGK fired first. And as far as fan bases coming for MGK it's already happening. CT limited his comments on IG right away but MGK didn't and the hate is real.
I learned so many cool new songs and upcoming artist from being apart of last nights live stream. Plus so many hilarious terms to describe different genres and scenes that end in "core" hahaha. I downloaded the app just to check out one of Finns live streams and It really was fun to be apart of. .
I think it's OK if you dabble in drama from time to time, especially when you have a decent point to make about it and can back it up with objectivity and context. If that's all you did, it'd be sad, but you're good at it so it would also be sad if you didn't throw some of it in from time to time.
I really think people need to understand why Corey said what he said in response to MGK in the first place, MGK was making a mockery of not just people like Corey but actually true rockstars and bands, the dudes an insult to the genre and MGK basically trashed on it by saying people aren’t being rock enough and the Genre was shit until he came on the stage and he legitimately thinks that. I know that Corey can get on some peoples nerves but his response was valid if anything and was trying to defend his fellow rockstars. And in regards to the collab thing, without a doubt Corey Taylor is 100% in the right especially with him leaking that last email that proves MGK lied. Regardless the Maggots are gonna tear him apart and that’ll be fun to watch lol
Mgk should just stick to rap actually no send a fucking hitman to take him out
@@jenniferphillippi1715 his rap isn’t bad but it isn’t good, also I hate the dude but enough to take his life
Exactly this. Corey Taylor was spot on too
@@thyweebhub the guy from as I lay dying instead of hiring a hitman to kill his wife maybe if he chose mgk he wouldn't be do hated
@@jenniferphillippi1715 you are weird dude. You hate someone enough to take his life. Don't you think that's a bit disturbed.
I will 100% ignore any and all content that relates to drama like this when it comes from any other source. That being said, I think you’ve built a strong enough brand identity that I will 100% listen to your take on clickbait drama, like Corey vs MGK, because there’s inevitably going to be a teachable moment in there somewhere.
I was there in the back observing the whole thing and I didn't see anyone leave to go watch Slipnot. They started at basically the same time.
I like the fact that Corey Taylor didn’t want to talk about it when asked by Eddie trunk yesterday. Said he’s said everything he wanted to say and didn’t want to perpetuate the drama.
but he started it is the funny part lol
@@timkruse9912 yeah with his “get off my lawn” moment lol
Great video as always! Just wanted to point out that you missed the biggest detail of why MGK "failed" in the hip hop scene. You're totally right that he was a very successful rapper for many years. That was right up until he decided to diss Eminem, which is basically committing career suicide for a rapper. The fact that he was even able to switch genres and maintain a good portion of his fanbase is impressive. For pretty much any other rapper, if they were to dis Em they would be done. For example: Ja Rule
You'd think he would sort of learned how a bad interaction with someone whos accepted in the scene as sort of a legend.
MGK had that whole thing with Eminem, where they had that whole back and fourth with a few diss tracks, that I think fans determined that Eminem clearly won that beef with "Killshot". I think that whole thing is pretty much why people say MGK "failed at rap". MGK switched genres after taking what many in the rap community considered to be a huge L.
As a recently retired Soldier, I get what you mean about "Where did MGK come from with this?" But, he did say he watched the news recently and yes, a lot of us are struggling with the same kind of thoughts ie What was if all for?
But, personally I give him props for even recognizing the issue and at least thinking of all of us. I think his heart was in the right place, no matter how fleeting this whole hot mess is.
It is funny that MGK calls Slipknot weirdos with all of his multi colored witch nails and his pink suit.
So it's weird to wear pink and colour your nails now?
@@LuciusGeronimo not now, always.
@@jamiekriner7855 maybe if you're like, a baby who still thinks pink is for girls only lol
@@fortunamajor7239 facts.
@@LuciusGeronimo I mean, I specifically said witch nails. But reading can be hard I guess.
It’s not a “clown and jumpsuit” band. They have custom masks made differently for every album. There is one clown, Shawn the founder and he’s a bad ass. Have you ever looked into the reason they wear masks? It’s not a “gimmick” 🤦♀️ it’s because they didn’t want any one person to be treated like a god because of their appearance. The masks and jumpsuits are so they are respected as artists.
Right! They have meaning behind what they do! No need for this guy to trash talk them he’s totally not bias 🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@ExploringChicago yeah it’s sad I used to like his content but this just biased nonsense. He should know the history of a band before he makes comments like he did
Finn, I really enjoy your videos and the fact that you focus on other things then music history etc. What is your take on European bands like Siberian Meat Grinder, the Rise of the North Star and Moscow Death Brigade?
Thank you!
I just wanted to what started the fued. Thanks for filling in the gaps Finn!
When people say he "failed at rap" its more about his place in the rap world, and less about his commercial success. The type of people who bought his albums were rarely into rap. Almost nobody respected him in the rap world regardless of his album sales. He could keep selling millions of rap records a year for the next 20 years, and unless he comes up with something actually good, he'd still be mocked by the rap world. Switching genres was the right move for him, but its obvious his understanding and appreciation for every genre he touches is very surface level at best. Its actually pretty accurate to say he failed at rap because he failed to captivate most rap fans despite writing chart topping rap songs for around 10 years
You explained it perfectly. I like MGKs rap stuff better than his pop punk stuff but most rap fans weren't really checking for him at all and sometimes people would hide that they like him. I was in the hood one time and people were listening to Till I Die. MGK has a weird career. Im glad he is experimenting but he's way better rapper than he is a pop punker.
If he sold most of those records to mainstream pop music listners than he would still have failed at rap indeed.
I really liked his performance back then at Rock am Ring with the whole band set up doing his older stuff(way better than the record sampled versions)..found it random here and ended up watching the whole show, then googled and found out why this name sounded familiar and found Pop punk 🙄.
Mgk can’t rap he fails at everything he touches he’s so cringe
Finn: "Do you remember shipping? Any of you guys on Tumblr"
Me: *vietnam flashbacks*
I remember Tumblr
@Mia Broekmans you poor soul
@@kittykittybangbang9367 how could we forget?
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My band, GoonLord, got put on that Rebel Rock festival super late, and close to the event. It was supposed to be an all weekend long thing but instead, it got shut down and cancelled while people were still in line after waiting for hours! Super big festival that had people flying in from all over the country. All the promoters and bands have been doing pop up shows all weekend to try and cushion the blow. I met a couple that came from Texas and Alaska!
I would love to see a video on what info you can find out on Rebel Rock. I've heard a billion different stories from higher ups and the homies. I don't know what to believe but you seem to be a great sleuth.
Love your videos
Finn, I couldn't agree more and really respect your work ethic. You know what needs to be done to make money. If you just made videos that you wanted to make, you would be leaving a lot of money on the table for the next creator to grab! For example; My job is something that not a lot of people are excited to do, but that's why I have all the overtime I can stand to work right now! I know what needs to be done to make money, and I'll happily do it!!
Love it!! That is exactly how winners think
I was never a fan of his rap music but his couch freestyle was dope.
I'm a big fan of Corey's. Slipknot's been in my top five bands for years. That said, it seems to me like Corey started this beef for no good reason. Granted, I don't know if something happened behind the scenes that neither of them have talked about yet or what.
Full disclosure, I did like MGK's album. I wouldn't exactly call myself a fan just yet, though. The album didn't absolutely blow me away, so I'll need to see another solid album out of him before I take that step. He's being a massive idiot in the way he's shooting back at Corey, same way he was with Eminem. Fortunately for MGK, his new fanbase demographics don't overlap very much with Corey's, so he's relatively safe from being booed out of yet another genre.
What are you saying? People came to his set in Kentucky just to boo him.🤣🤣🤣🤣
I would agree but I feel like from his public outburst that there is probably something private that brought that comment on from Corey since his statement came after the collab attempt. Another take could be that the more Corey thought about it the more upset it made him that he wanted to change much of Corey's input after being asked for it to begin with which could have very well sparked Corey's comment.
Finn, I thought I knew what you were going to say, but you went 2 levels deeper into this. Idc about drama usually, but THIS was actually interesting. Well done👍
Thank you!
What's hilarious about this is that Phil Anselmo said practically the exact same thing about CT/Slipknot when I saw Superjoint Ritual in the early 2000s. He even kinda had that 'Cleveland vibe' that you speak of.🤣
It takes no guts….
(04-05ish? That was a sick gig)
lol MGK doesn't realize the maggots would literally eat him alive.
😂 i don’t think anyone should be too concerned about a group that refers to themselves as “maggots”
@myface yermomsbutt slipknot fans are crazy. I know plenty of bands better than them in my opnion. Bands like ACDC,Chicago, Boston, Kiss, Queen, Van Halen, Aerosmith, The Stones and Pink Floyd. I won't knock someone for liking Slipknot tho
@@The-Endo-SymArmor I’m mostly just kidding, I don’t really care what people listen to. Consider it more of a critique of extreme fanatic behavior and weaponization of fanbases, etc. i say listen to what you want, just don’t be shitty to other people about it
@@drdoom8793 exactly Corey Taylor can learn something from you he hates on bands like Imagine Dragons. I wouldn't disrespect another band's craft like that.
@myface yermomsbutt thats some big cap. Since when being mainstream is a good goal? haha wtf did i just read
Finn Mckenty makes the first hour of a 9-5 bearable.
🤣🤘
I watch every episode regardless if it’s a topic I’m interested, I just like to hear Finn talk
As an extremely biased mgk defender I think both sides are kinda out of line but at the end of the day both bands got a ton of exposure from this so it’s kinda a win win.
Mgk respectfully didn't want corey on his album and corey got butthurt about that and talked shit in a interview, all mgk did was respond, responding to someone talking shit about you isn't being out of line, being salty because you didn't make it on the album is
I feel like both guys win from this. Taylor comes across as more mature, MGK reinforces his “DGAF” image, and both guys end up with press and attention.
I’m going to Rebel Rock so I’m definitely curious what’s going to happen when he performs. Incubus already dropped from it after replacing Limp Bizkit so who knows what’s going to happen..
My condolences to your wasted afternoon
Appreciate the clarity on this situation!
That being said, it's funny how Corey talked about stealing other bands looks, vibe, style, e.t.c.... when they stole all those things from a band, from Cleveland!🤣🤣 MUSHROOMHEAD, I'm taking about MUSHROOMHEAD.
I found slipknot first, but then got introduced to MUSHROOMHEAD and heard THAT story. Interesting stuff. Could you possibly clarify that, too, please?
Thanks, a new subscriber!
P.S.: I'm not a fan of Kelly's stuff.
Finn, you're right about your "this is what gets clicks" spiel. And since I know you love feedback, the only reason I clicked is because I was curious as to YOUR take on the matter -- turns out it was what I expected anyway.
Seems like both got a little butt hurt, and Cory struck first. Cory didn’t like being critiqued, MGK didn’t like being talked about poorly in the media and struck back at his concert. 2 grown men pouting in public, pretty sad.
I think he's gay. MGK. Literally. Not poking fun of him or anything. But I think he is. He acts like my uncle who is a homosexual. He came out when he was around his late 30's early 40's. Man admitted he was popping Johnny appleseed for years. Nobody knew. MGK here acts A LOT like that lol.
@@romanronin6969 maybe they’re both gay and this is just a lovers quarrel. One wears questionable attire daily, the other wears a mask to cover his homosexual tendencies…would be quite the revelation.
@@allforhim2009 You're not funny... Corey wears a mask because it's been their image since the mid 90s poser.
@@SoloDoloToker what’s funny about being gay ? You must be a newb fan who never listened to their first major album…it literally has a song called “Spit it out” referencing one of Corey’s old homosexual relationships. Do some research kid!
Damn, he missed the best part of the story, that after Corey talked shit in that interview, he was featured on a song that was a blatant copy of a MGK and Kid Rock song.
What's the name of the song?
I've been waiting for this video since the news dropped lol
Kinda off-topic: The thing I enjoy the most about your videos regardless of genre/topic is you always more or less have a business view to them. I try to take notes ! anyone can see your business Background in this and I love how honest you are about it.
"you do clickbaits just for views"
yes, fucking do it ! It's your source of income and I at least you're having fun doing it !
Thanks man!
MGK is that “Cleveland”, but you think his “comfortable shoes” comment was well thought out?
I think he actually meant literal comfortable shoes 😂
I think MGK is just a dumb dude generally, but good at stoking the fires and marketing.
He’s doing something right…. Just not getting an A in science :)
@Gem Rose all I know is he's going to get a lot of shit in these rock fests for talking shit on a band, that's one of the most influential in the last 2 decades. 😂
@Gem Rose they have the same producer..
I love MGK and have for a long time. I'm not in love with him or his music, I just want to root for him because he is such an underdog. Whenever people experience a lot of childhood trauma, it is hard to overcome that in terms of emotional maturity. He is not mature. He gets his feelings hurt easily and is reactive. I'm not making excuses, that is just his reality. I hope people don't make this into a bigger deal than it is.
You say this as if Corey didn't have a traumatic childhood. Not sure what your point is? And of course they are, they're people.
@@SmellThemFish yea corey is immature as fuck for a 50 year ols
As a fan of mgk, I completely agree that the tweet made by him about corey was quite disrespectful and could've been handled alot better, whereas what he said on the festival is still passable since corey had dissed him first publicly, but I feel like people forget to realize that mgk wouldn't have said anything if corey hadn't shaded him in the interview as this all began from there, which was also a very unprofessional move on corey's part . So in conclusion both are at fault and all of this could've been avoided if everyone had remained professional and didn't let their pettiness get in the way.
This shits hella funny🤣😅😂 thank you for this video Finn
When he actually acts punk. People jump on him. I could definitely hear blink making fun of Slipknot on stage back in the day. I’m a huge MGK hater as a pop punk purist. But I see nothing wrong here. If Eminem did it everyone would say “that’s em”.
Yeah but blink isn’t doing it to be petty. They just made fun of shit. MGK is butthurt like he always is.
How you gonna say mgk is butthurt when corey is the one that went on an interview and talked shit about him just because mgk respectfully didn't want his verse on his album? Get real the old fart was sad
@@user-pm5my9zq7j did you actually read what happened? Corey turned the part on his album down because MGK wanted him to do something differently. So Corey in the most professional way stated, declined. Corey isn’t the butthurt one, squirt gun Kelly is.
@j even if that is what happend, corey was still the first one to start talking shit on that interveiw
@@JamesEatWorld7758 corey declined, then talked shit about the album he was about to be on lmfao. if that isn’t petty what is
corey being petty cause he refused to rewrite his verse after mgk asked him if he could redo it LOL
I dont know man, corey is a good lyricist, i think mgk wanted the verse to be more corny
1:19 *Very understandable discussion*
Did you ever go to a haunted house in Cleveland in the 90s called haunted hallow ? The mining company was in the same building.
i think what i gather from the emails is that corey did the verse, mgk liked it and started talking about his vision to make it a song "for soldiers to fight to", and corey, who has expressed his anti war/military sentiment in other lyrics, was uncomfortable with that and wanted to protect his artistic control and integrity. he seemed super polite in the email despite his earlier comments, and it could be possible that much like everyone else, corey has found out some shit about mgk that's made him uncomfortable.
I’m guessing the edit sounded horrible and that’s why Corey bowed out of it. He’s already gotten shit for his rap he did last year and how horrible that was. He’s probably trying to save face. I don’t think it has anything to do with the war. I’m shocked Corey even gave mgk a shot!
There’s no way anyone can find his pop punk stint as sincere. 31 year old dude cosplaying as a high schooler writing c tier blink rip offs
THIS!!!
Ooof accurate
No one's saying it is sincere. When pop punk is sincere, we get Tumblr garbage that ends up being canceled anyways
"...smoking at the rapid station on West 117th" Finn that was probably our mayor, not MGK.
Great content bruh
as much as im a huge corey and slipknot fan, i cant really be on his side for this. dude talked all this trash about mgk for switching sides, as he literally released the absolute fucking worst butt rock/rap album last year lmao
Did you listen to the whole thing? Or just the title track?
@@bluecayser1498 bro nobody listens to CT
It's all about TASTE bro you think its the fucking worst album but not to everyone. Just respect each other and then there's peace in this world
MGK fought Eminem and lost. Now he's trying to fight Connor McGregor and Slipknot. LMAO what a tool
I’m sad to see it’s come to making this content but I understand and hope you make tons of money Finn!
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I actually think tickets to my downfall is a pretty cool album, not my favorite but I think it’s great for what it is, but at the same time if people are pissed at that rock fest it’ll be hilarious
If the same album came out in 2005 everyone would love it
Also, it's a total shame Corey and MGK didn't make the collaboration happen, cuz that would've been awesome.
For real though
I don't agree
Finn Mckenty is literally just like 90% of my friends with his opinions and music taste lol. I could have a conversation for hours and hours with this dude about music
Can’t look back is one of my favorites from TTMDF and it would’ve been even better with Corey
i ship machineguncorey
MGKorey
The fan fics are imminent 😅
Wait isn’t CT wearing a mask the exact entertainment that MGK thinks rockers should do?!…😂
Yeah mgk ain't the brightest
@@retronerds6884 if u consider wearing weird masks entertaining
@@vincentnguyen7271 yes it is entertaining the mask are apart of Slipknots identity
I noticed someone mentioned Malice Mizer in the chat. Are you interested in covering J-rock in any way, Finn? Dir En Grey, Malice Mizer, COLOR, The Gazette, Versaille, etc? These are mostly Visual Kei bands, but obviously theres a lot of different kinds of Japanese rock.