I have both Aranet 4 and QingPing Air Monitor Gen 2. Aranet 4 is a great device for CO2 readings but the biggest issue I have with it is that's buzzer sound if CO2 reading is higher than the threshold barely makes any sound so I would not trust it as an over nightCO2 monitor while you sleep inside a camping tent or small cabin specially if you have gas heating inside. The QingPing's CO2 over limit alarm is a proper sounding alarm which is loud, and I like that you can change the volume levels to suit your preference. The QingPing Air Monitor Gen 2 is my favourite device as it does CO2 readings just as reliable as Aranet 4 at even more frequent updates compared to 1 minute which is the quickest update time on Aranet 4 you can set. QP2 also serves PM2.5 readings in my household. I still love the Aranet 4 primarily due to its longer battery life and that it's so portable. It's my go to monitor to take to office, buses, trains, planes etc.
Thanks for sharing this experience and I’m keen to test the QP 2 very soon as sounds like it’s pretty much perfect. Thank you for the extra detail super useful!
I use the Airgradient One and the $50 option from IKEA. The Airgradient is great. The lights tell you if you need to be concerned at a glance, the screen has everything you need well laid out, and the accuracy appears to be great. The IKEA option is actually quite accurate and has a very good sensor, but the way it displays VOCs is a bit odd. The form factor and screen size are quite good. I use this one near my 3D Printer.
Heard good things about IKEA as they use good sensor kit and are well priced. Will add try to purchase soon so I can compare with others. Yeah the screen for the air gradient is a stand out feature plus you can confident it has accurate sensors that can be replaced if need be.
Atmotube is great but has one big problem, I think. The alerts for AQ do not wake an iPhone screen, or make any sound. You’ll only see the notifications time you wake the phone, which is entirely pointless as an “alert”.
@@HouseFresh yeah they are aware of it, that is, I’ve emailed them and they said they would look, but it’s not a configuration issue or an outdated phone, the type of notification is wrong and delivered silently no matter what profile the iPhone is in
Great review, thanks. I noticed at the beginning with the recommended devices, you mentioned how accurate the sensors in them were, and then when you moved on to the other devices the issues were with the other features like data visibility. How does the accuracy/consistency vary across the the sensors you've tested?
Sorry should have include more detail on this. You should be able to see comparison data on desktop via here: public.flourish.studio/visualisation/18773610/ Will make sure to include more detail when we publish the web version.
@@BevyRadio thank you. I have done a lot more reviews for air purifiers than air quality monitors so hope to also improve for future versions. Let me know what you would want to know?
Great selection of devices, I have the airthings as it tracks radon, living on a granite island it's useful but pm2.5 does lag, I notice it when my airpurifier kicks in and airthings still has a low reading then picks up. I think I will purchase qingping gen 2. Nice plug and play and looks accurate enough on your results list also has pm10
Glad your experience matching and the radon does make it pretty unique. Although I have seen that new Aranet will also do radon detection. Hope the qp pro 2 works well for you.
Hi Danny, I can finally tell you how I feel about the Qinping Pro 2 compared to the Awair Element. The PM2.5 measurements are almost identical and the CO2 measurements are very similar. But the humidity measurements are very divergent, reaching more than 10 points of difference between the Awair Element and the QP PRO 2. The latter are much more realistic, but I'm waiting for the Aranet4 to arrive to finally decide which is more accurate (I'm sure the QP Pro2). The problem is in the VOC measurements. While the Awair records the measurement as chemicals, the QP PRO 2 reflects them as eTVOC and the difference is huge. While Awair tells you that there is a high level (and the DYSON Formaldehyde TP09 sensors match), the QP PRO 2 tells you that the eTVOC is good overall. I am very confused because I really need to know a realistic approximation to the VOCs which I think are my problem (the house was painted less than 2 months ago with non-ecological paint with a high VOC content). Which one should I believe? In terms of humidity, the QP Pro 2 is much more reliable, in terms of PM2.5 they all give the same figures, but on the one hand Dyson and Awair say that the VOCs are high, the QP PRO 2 says that they are fine. On the other hand, and this question is vital for me Danny, do you know how long it takes for the VOCs of the non-ecological paint to disappear? Should I paint again, sealing this paint and repainting with zero VOC paint? If you think I should paint again, I would appreciate the advice because I really am not feeling well at all i am constantly dizzy and with short of breath and many more sympthoms. Thanks Danny
In my research, I found that there are no easily available consumer VOC sensors that have a ton of useful information. You need to find a specific sensor for the type of gas you want to look for. So you would need to look for a sensor for a specific gas for example: Formaldehyde, and then you would get accurate readings. Most of the VOC sensors on the market detect all VOC's and many are totally harmless. I'm no expert when it comes to paints for VOC's but it seems like even with a high VOC paint, it should be dissipated in 30 days. I worry a lot, so I can empathize with your situation, but unless you are still smelling specific chemicals, I wouldn't be concerned too much with high VOC readings for either of the sensors. VOC-free paint companies also push the fear of VOCs in their marketing, which doesn't help, but most of the VOCs will be dissipated in the first 48 hours. Sensor companies need to make this clear, as I have had many people share my worries about high readings, which creates needless concern. With regard to your symptoms, I would check in with a doctor, as it could be an issue unrelated to the VOCs. Sorry you're dealing with this, and I hope my answer above provides some help.
@@HouseFreshindeed it helped Danny, thanks a lot for your detailed answer 🙏 Pd,,, for sure it’s kinda VOC sensitivity I get the same dizziness and short of breath in our new car. I must tell you I have noticed my issue with VOC with the help of your channel Danny running air purifiers and air quality monitors. Read a lot and 50% of VOC of fresh paint disípate in the first 6 months,, the new car prove has been eye opening that’s VOC and only VOC it’s producing my issues,,, good news it that it will get better over time. Again Danny thanks a lot mate, at least I know what’s wrong with me,,, when I came here to this new house I was lost,,, I was feeling terrible and didn’t know why,,,, thanks to you I know why now,,, and this is priceless
Nice review, thanks. Have you tested out the Vitalight mini CO2 detector? That's the one I use. A number of drawbacks, but seems quite accurate and is a great low budget option. I've posted some of the readings to the Raven Clean Air map, which is a crowdsourced database of air quality data.
@@HouseFreshNp and thank you! It's very barebones (no app or anything), battery life is only ~8 hours or so, and it needs to be recalibrated every so often, but so far, at least in my tests, it's held up nicely! A good option for travel or quick trips to get CO2 readings in public indoor spaces. Thanks again for all the great content!
@@blinddog1212 I hope you don't mind me jumping in, but I have a review both on my website and channel. It is a very accurate monitor, but as you've mentioned, does come with quite a few downsides too. With that said, if you want to save money, it's the best CO2 monitor you can get for < $50!
And just wanted to say that you are the only guy that gives us honest reviews,, I have checking another sites and they seems just like they only make publicity for their affiliates,,, I just keep on coming again and again to you. Thanks for your real help 🙏
Thank you! I want to use this comment as a quote on our website, I'm glad that you could see that we are not just pushing stuff to get a higher $ commission. Let me know if you are OK with me using your comment - no worries if not.
@@HouseFresh of course I am OK with it Danny, I just said the truth and again thank you for all your help 🙏,,, and sorry if my English is not that great I am from Spain
I got 3 aranet4's when they where HEAVILY discounted a few weeks ago, where each one costed like 130 euro inc tax. I also have a cheap Nomestic CO2 sensor, but there is a HUGE difference between the nomestic and the aranet in CO2 levels, with a difference of over 25% The reason I got 3 is because I dislike moving the sensor every time to different rooms and have wait 10+ minutes for it to have detected the CO2 levels. with 3 I am also more inclined to ventilate, since now I have a visual indication of CO2 levels of each area I also have it connected to Home-assistant, for monitoring and remote detection/measuring being able to connect to HA is a requirement for me with sensors, since I don't need 5+ apps for different sensors. since HA will allow you to look at all data with 1 app instead of 5+
I should have made this more clear in the video as yes they have diy versions for each that are much cheaper. I tested the diy version of the outdoor and it was super easy to put together. The only think is that they won’t calibrate it in the DIY version .
By the way can you please recommend me the best device to measure humidity. ( something like the aranet 4 for co2).Thanks Danny👍 Pd,,, I know the aranet 4 measures humidity too,,, is accurate? If only accurate for co2 I need the best for humidity
What is an air quality monitor that detects for poisons and pesticides and chemicals? Not p.m. levels. One more time and air quality monitor that detects for chemicals poisons and pesticides? What and where can you get an air quality monitor for that for that for that one more time for that
Generally they would be one device for each specific chemical. General gas sensors don’t provide enough detail to be useful. I have an ozone sensor but only does ozone and quite pricey $300.
Why don’t you test shark never change max, it’s my life’s burning question to choose between a never change purifier vs levoit because of the extra cost of filters, I want something effective to remove pet odour, PLEASE HELP
I have learned a lot from you in this 2 months I discovered you. Now I have quite a few Air purifiers according to your recommendations ( I am the guy who lives in a high industry location and repainted house full of VOC). Now I have a Dyson TP09 that also has sensors ( seems accurate by the way). Also I bought 3 Winnix zero pro ( as u recommended me )2 Coway 150, 1 Levoit vital 200, 1 Coway 400 which I will receive tomorrow and also got a Morento air purifier cause it has double filters from the rear and the front ( have to test this yet if u interested I will give u a feedback. Now that I am done ( for now ) with air purifiers I am ongoing into the world of air monitors . Unfortunately I cannot get Airgradient in Spain. I bought for the moment 2 Awair Element second gen just to start with cause it was an offer in Amazon for 125€ each. Was a good choice or QP Pro second gen would be a more accurate product for just 30$ more? Thanks a lot Danny you are doing a great job helping us mate 👍 Pd,,, as I will need several devices do you also think Temtop M10 can be a good choice for me? I basically need PM2.5 ( from external factories) but also VOC and formaldehyde due to recent painting and poor quality flooring.,,, I have leaned from you that u cannot really have accurate VOC levels if not spending thousands of dollars which I don’t have. So, shall I return the 2 Awair element and get 2 GP Pro second gen?
I would choose the QP Pro 2 as it would likely give you more information and due to the swappable sensor will last a lot longer. Have not tested the Temptop M10 but have heard good things from people on here. Be sure to let me know how you get on with the QP Pro 2. I also wanted to to add something about Morento. I haven't heard of it before but got an email this week that offered me 18% commission to sell air purifiers from this brand which is a lot higher than the 3% I get normally from Amazon which makes me a little suspect. If you did want a device that uses filters on each side, I would look at the Smart Air SA600 - housefresh.com/smart-air-sa600-review/ Glad you have found the channel useful, I got plans for lots more but these words really help to inspire me - so much appreciated :)
@@HouseFreshHello Danny I have to give you some bad input about Temtop M10.. my unit must be defective it only changes lectures only when I shake it lol 🤣 it’s clearly faulty returning to Amazon. I have some very very good input to tell you about Awair Element,,,, I have 3 of them in different rooms and the lectures are pretty solid. They all show high CO2 level specially at night time. So I bought the Aranet4 as u recommend for just CO2 ,,,, tomorrow I get my QP Pro 2 ,,, I will tell you my opinion as I did with Temtop M10 and Awair Element,,, again thanks a lot we are learning a lot from you 🙏
no problem to rant at all! ,that is annoying to hear as I really liked the QP Pro 1. Is there any more detail you can share so I can make more people aware of the issue? I still need to review the QP Pro 2 so haven’t looked into it detail.
I have both Aranet 4 and QingPing Air Monitor Gen 2. Aranet 4 is a great device for CO2 readings but the biggest issue I have with it is that's buzzer sound if CO2 reading is higher than the threshold barely makes any sound so I would not trust it as an over nightCO2 monitor while you sleep inside a camping tent or small cabin specially if you have gas heating inside. The QingPing's CO2 over limit alarm is a proper sounding alarm which is loud, and I like that you can change the volume levels to suit your preference.
The QingPing Air Monitor Gen 2 is my favourite device as it does CO2 readings just as reliable as Aranet 4 at even more frequent updates compared to 1 minute which is the quickest update time on Aranet 4 you can set. QP2 also serves PM2.5 readings in my household. I still love the Aranet 4 primarily due to its longer battery life and that it's so portable. It's my go to monitor to take to office, buses, trains, planes etc.
Thanks for sharing this experience and I’m keen to test the QP 2 very soon as sounds like it’s pretty much perfect. Thank you for the extra detail super useful!
I use the Airgradient One and the $50 option from IKEA.
The Airgradient is great. The lights tell you if you need to be concerned at a glance, the screen has everything you need well laid out, and the accuracy appears to be great.
The IKEA option is actually quite accurate and has a very good sensor, but the way it displays VOCs is a bit odd. The form factor and screen size are quite good. I use this one near my 3D Printer.
Heard good things about IKEA as they use good sensor kit and are well priced. Will add try to purchase soon so I can compare with others.
Yeah the screen for the air gradient is a stand out feature plus you can confident it has accurate sensors that can be replaced if need be.
Atmotube is great but has one big problem, I think. The alerts for AQ do not wake an iPhone screen, or make any sound. You’ll only see the notifications time you wake the phone, which is entirely pointless as an “alert”.
I tested on Android and it worked but will test again with iPhone and see if I can repeat. I would hope they could fix that as it’s quite a downside .
@@HouseFresh yeah they are aware of it, that is, I’ve emailed them and they said they would look, but it’s not a configuration issue or an outdated phone, the type of notification is wrong and delivered silently no matter what profile the iPhone is in
Great video with lots of input and glad you pointed out Voc which can be tricky
Thanks for kind words. I have seen big publishers mention voc tests and when I ask what sensor they use….crickets
Great review, thanks.
I noticed at the beginning with the recommended devices, you mentioned how accurate the sensors in them were, and then when you moved on to the other devices the issues were with the other features like data visibility. How does the accuracy/consistency vary across the the sensors you've tested?
Sorry should have include more detail on this. You should be able to see comparison data on desktop via here: public.flourish.studio/visualisation/18773610/
Will make sure to include more detail when we publish the web version.
Install the purple air outside and do a long term testing that includes rain.
Great idea will implement soon.
This is great! You answered a lot of questions I had.
@@BevyRadio thank you. I have done a lot more reviews for air purifiers than air quality monitors so hope to also improve for future versions. Let me know what you would want to know?
Great selection of devices, I have the airthings as it tracks radon, living on a granite island it's useful but pm2.5 does lag, I notice it when my airpurifier kicks in and airthings still has a low reading then picks up. I think I will purchase qingping gen 2. Nice plug and play and looks accurate enough on your results list also has pm10
Glad your experience matching and the radon does make it pretty unique. Although I have seen that new Aranet will also do radon detection. Hope the qp pro 2 works well for you.
Hi Danny, I can finally tell you how I feel about the Qinping Pro 2 compared to the Awair Element. The PM2.5 measurements are almost identical and the CO2 measurements are very similar. But the humidity measurements are very divergent, reaching more than 10 points of difference between the Awair Element and the QP PRO 2. The latter are much more realistic, but I'm waiting for the Aranet4 to arrive to finally decide which is more accurate (I'm sure the QP Pro2). The problem is in the VOC measurements. While the Awair records the measurement as chemicals, the QP PRO 2 reflects them as eTVOC and the difference is huge. While Awair tells you that there is a high level (and the DYSON Formaldehyde TP09 sensors match), the QP PRO 2 tells you that the eTVOC is good overall. I am very confused because I really need to know a realistic approximation to the VOCs which I think are my problem (the house was painted less than 2 months ago with non-ecological paint with a high VOC content). Which one should I believe? In terms of humidity, the QP Pro 2 is much more reliable, in terms of PM2.5 they all give the same figures, but on the one hand Dyson and Awair say that the VOCs are high, the QP PRO 2 says that they are fine.
On the other hand, and this question is vital for me Danny, do you know how long it takes for the VOCs of the non-ecological paint to disappear? Should I paint again, sealing this paint and repainting with zero VOC paint? If you think I should paint again, I would appreciate the advice because I really am not feeling well at all i am constantly dizzy and with short of breath and many more sympthoms.
Thanks Danny
In my research, I found that there are no easily available consumer VOC sensors that have a ton of useful information. You need to find a specific sensor for the type of gas you want to look for. So you would need to look for a sensor for a specific gas for example: Formaldehyde, and then you would get accurate readings. Most of the VOC sensors on the market detect all VOC's and many are totally harmless.
I'm no expert when it comes to paints for VOC's but it seems like even with a high VOC paint, it should be dissipated in 30 days.
I worry a lot, so I can empathize with your situation, but unless you are still smelling specific chemicals, I wouldn't be concerned too much with high VOC readings for either of the sensors. VOC-free paint companies also push the fear of VOCs in their marketing, which doesn't help, but most of the VOCs will be dissipated in the first 48 hours.
Sensor companies need to make this clear, as I have had many people share my worries about high readings, which creates needless concern.
With regard to your symptoms, I would check in with a doctor, as it could be an issue unrelated to the VOCs.
Sorry you're dealing with this, and I hope my answer above provides some help.
@@HouseFreshindeed it helped Danny, thanks a lot for your detailed answer 🙏
Pd,,, for sure it’s kinda VOC sensitivity I get the same dizziness and short of breath in our new car.
I must tell you I have noticed my issue with VOC with the help of your channel Danny running air purifiers and air quality monitors.
Read a lot and 50% of VOC of fresh paint disípate in the first 6 months,, the new car prove has been eye opening that’s VOC and only VOC it’s producing my issues,,, good news it that it will get better over time.
Again Danny thanks a lot mate, at least I know what’s wrong with me,,, when I came here to this new house I was lost,,, I was feeling terrible and didn’t know why,,,, thanks to you I know why now,,, and this is priceless
Nice review, thanks. Have you tested out the Vitalight mini CO2 detector? That's the one I use. A number of drawbacks, but seems quite accurate and is a great low budget option. I've posted some of the readings to the Raven Clean Air map, which is a crowdsourced database of air quality data.
Not tested but will add to be tested soon and compare with our other monitors, thanks for the suggestion.
@@HouseFreshNp and thank you! It's very barebones (no app or anything), battery life is only ~8 hours or so, and it needs to be recalibrated every so often, but so far, at least in my tests, it's held up nicely! A good option for travel or quick trips to get CO2 readings in public indoor spaces. Thanks again for all the great content!
@@blinddog1212 I hope you don't mind me jumping in, but I have a review both on my website and channel. It is a very accurate monitor, but as you've mentioned, does come with quite a few downsides too. With that said, if you want to save money, it's the best CO2 monitor you can get for < $50!
And just wanted to say that you are the only guy that gives us honest reviews,, I have checking another sites and they seems just like they only make publicity for their affiliates,,, I just keep on coming again and again to you. Thanks for your real help 🙏
Thank you! I want to use this comment as a quote on our website, I'm glad that you could see that we are not just pushing stuff to get a higher $ commission.
Let me know if you are OK with me using your comment - no worries if not.
@@HouseFresh of course I am OK with it Danny, I just said the truth and again thank you for all your help 🙏,,, and sorry if my English is not that great I am from Spain
@@HouseFreshcan you link my quote if u finally used it in your page please? I have been searching for it but didn’t find it
@@SuperMagneto99 Not done yet as have been away for a few weeks but will be happening soon! Will be sure to send you.
Do you have on your website or know where I can find information on what's considered good or bad levels for the different sensors?
I'm using the Airthings View Plus, and I am loving it. Thanks for the informative review videos.
Glad you like them and our happy with the View Plus. It’s a solid device just a little pricey.
@@HouseFresh Yeah, they are running a bit of a discount at the moment for the unit $239. A slightly kinder price.
@@paulmcqueen4749 Yeah that is much better. I want all my gadgets to have e-ink screens now.
I got 3 aranet4's when they where HEAVILY discounted a few weeks ago, where each one costed like 130 euro inc tax.
I also have a cheap Nomestic CO2 sensor, but there is a HUGE difference between the nomestic and the aranet in CO2 levels, with a difference of over 25%
The reason I got 3 is because I dislike moving the sensor every time to different rooms and have wait 10+ minutes for it to have detected the CO2 levels.
with 3 I am also more inclined to ventilate, since now I have a visual indication of CO2 levels of each area
I also have it connected to Home-assistant, for monitoring and remote detection/measuring
being able to connect to HA is a requirement for me with sensors, since I don't need 5+ apps for different sensors.
since HA will allow you to look at all data with 1 app instead of 5+
Thank you so much for reviewing these products😊
My pleasure 😊 Thanks for your comment!
Just get the diy air gradient kit, its 70 bucks cheaper and is very easy to assemble.
I should have made this more clear in the video as yes they have diy versions for each that are much cheaper. I tested the diy version of the outdoor and it was super easy to put together. The only think is that they won’t calibrate it in the DIY version .
@@HouseFresh true, I had to leave mine outside to calibrate the cO2 sensor
@@sandmanlol A good tip! When i publish the web version of this video.
Great Video!
Thanks for taking the time to comment and your kind words 🙏
By the way can you please recommend me the best device to measure humidity. ( something like the aranet 4 for co2).Thanks Danny👍
Pd,,, I know the aranet 4 measures humidity too,,, is accurate? If only accurate for co2 I need the best for humidity
When testing for humidity I use the HT.w Sensor from Sensorpush. No screen like the Aranet but has great sensors.
Dyson hp04 has outside and inside
I think the outside data will be based on a local data source but you are correct that the app does show that.
What is an air quality monitor that detects for poisons and pesticides and chemicals? Not p.m. levels. One more time and air quality monitor that detects for chemicals poisons and pesticides? What and where can you get an air quality monitor for that for that for that one more time for that
Generally they would be one device for each specific chemical. General gas sensors don’t provide enough detail to be useful. I have an ozone sensor but only does ozone and quite pricey $300.
Why don’t you test shark never change max, it’s my life’s burning question to choose between a never change purifier vs levoit because of the extra cost of filters, I want something effective to remove pet odour, PLEASE HELP
I do have plans to test this unit, but in most cases, I am usually let down by promises of never changing filters.
I have learned a lot from you in this 2 months I discovered you. Now I have quite a few Air purifiers according to your recommendations ( I am the guy who lives in a high industry location and repainted house full of VOC). Now I have a Dyson TP09 that also has sensors ( seems accurate by the way). Also I bought 3 Winnix zero pro ( as u recommended me )2 Coway 150, 1 Levoit vital 200, 1 Coway 400 which I will receive tomorrow and also got a Morento air purifier cause it has double filters from the rear and the front ( have to test this yet if u interested I will give u a feedback.
Now that I am done ( for now ) with air purifiers I am ongoing into the world of air monitors .
Unfortunately I cannot get Airgradient in Spain. I bought for the moment 2 Awair Element second gen just to start with cause it was an offer in Amazon for 125€ each. Was a good choice or QP Pro second gen would be a more accurate product for just 30$ more? Thanks a lot Danny you are doing a great job helping us mate 👍
Pd,,, as I will need several devices do you also think Temtop M10 can be a good choice for me? I basically need PM2.5 ( from external factories) but also VOC and formaldehyde due to recent painting and poor quality flooring.,,, I have leaned from you that u cannot really have accurate VOC levels if not spending thousands of dollars which I don’t have. So, shall I return the 2 Awair element and get 2 GP Pro second gen?
I would choose the QP Pro 2 as it would likely give you more information and due to the swappable sensor will last a lot longer.
Have not tested the Temptop M10 but have heard good things from people on here.
Be sure to let me know how you get on with the QP Pro 2.
I also wanted to to add something about Morento. I haven't heard of it before but got an email this week that offered me 18% commission to sell air purifiers from this brand which is a lot higher than the 3% I get normally from Amazon which makes me a little suspect. If you did want a device that uses filters on each side, I would look at the Smart Air SA600 - housefresh.com/smart-air-sa600-review/
Glad you have found the channel useful, I got plans for lots more but these words really help to inspire me - so much appreciated :)
@@HouseFresh thanks to you Danny 🙏🙏
@@HouseFreshHello Danny I have to give you some bad input about Temtop M10.. my unit must be defective it only changes lectures only when I shake it lol 🤣 it’s clearly faulty returning to Amazon. I have some very very good input to tell you about Awair Element,,,, I have 3 of them in different rooms and the lectures are pretty solid. They all show high CO2 level specially at night time. So I bought the Aranet4 as u recommend for just CO2 ,,,, tomorrow I get my QP Pro 2 ,,, I will tell you my opinion as I did with Temtop M10 and Awair Element,,, again thanks a lot we are learning a lot from you 🙏
Temtop is good
Will add to the list and add for next year! Thanks for the suggestion which model do you use?
@@HouseFresh M10 but I really only use it for quick and simple pm2.5 at a glance
@@darylfortney8081 This looks a good price will add to my list of devices to buy and test.
@@HouseFresh the new m10plus is also very atractive for its price
Can you not recommend Chinese made garbage that breaks after a month of use
Which monitor did you have an issue with?
@@HouseFreshQP pro version 2 is the one that seems to have issues. Sorry for the rant.
no problem to rant at all! ,that is annoying to hear as I really liked the QP Pro 1.
Is there any more detail you can share so I can make more people aware of the issue? I still need to review the QP Pro 2 so haven’t looked into it detail.