Love this series on experimenting with different materials. Even though you say it's pretty obvious they won't work, it is still really cool to see the reaction. Never would have thought this would actually repel like it did.
I know nothing about welding and this was perfectly accessible to me. I loved the method: Pose the quandary Give a demo Explain the results You didn't talk down, you just warned. Great stuff, thanks for such a great video.
We were goofing around and tried this and while we ended up with the crap we expected .Unlike yours it was strong enough to handle.I tried to drag the puddle into each material vs make a bead and while it was the failure we expected it was fun to play around with
it works..but its only brazing (no cross contamination as no pooling) so not much strength. we put together an exhaust using silbronze and it looked really interesting when polished..i dont know how it held up but the customer hasn't brought it back so i guess its stayed fixed.
Your titanium videos show the importance of extreme cleaning, back purge, long post flow/trailing gas, temperature control. Not saying it would make any difference to the end result but starting with weld conditions that create issues with one of the base metals isn't a good way to try and successfully weld them.
Can hear it at 2:35 & 4:37 starting to crack.... Silicon/phosphorus bronze maybe??? I worked for a company that claimed they accomplished a one-off part by laser welding the two with a deoxidized copper strip between them without filler. Although I can not contest or verify that.
I know that it probably doesn't exist as a rod but would ferrotitanium alloy work as a welding material in your opinion? Also would something that they both alloy with easily like chromium work to weld them?
What about brazing the to together? I have a titanium rotor off a jet and making a table out of it and want to braze stainless legs to it. How well will this work?
Thanks for the video, very informative. I was just wondering if the E-Z Weld rod with the flux in it would possibly work. In the video you did with this rod, you welded cast iron with it and said that it could weld cast iron, stainless, carbon steel and copper. I bought some of the rods and it does work on stainless and carbon just fine. When you welded the cast iron with it, was it actually welding or just brazing? I seemed to remember that you didn't use very much heat. Thanks for the great vids. Dan.
Stainless is still an iron based alloy, so the small amount of Ti in it would not be enough to create a matrix that would have any observable strength. You'd PROBABLY have more luck Silver Brazing Stainless to Ti. With enough skill you can make a silver brazed joint that is almost indistinguishable from a Tig joint at first glance
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try it with copper filler I saw a video of someone welding 2 dissimilar metals with copper filler with good results. I don't remember what they were though.
Honestly I only watched this to see if it was even possible, kinda in a sticky situation involving a stripped titanium bolt :-) hopefully I can figure it out
The real problem- when you weld titanium and you make a mistake and take stainless filler rod. It welds ok, so you keep on welding untill you realise that you ruined few parts... ...and then you realise that titanium is not cheap material... happened to me twice.
How can you weld this for educational purpose, and not use a purge gas on the back side of the plates. No wonder its not bonding, you are burning off the titanium.
Seems like this is a bare bones, lazy experiment.. so could we try pre heat or post heat? We all know cast, aluminum, inconel.... that’s all I know of off the top of my head... these metals weld better when pre heated and stress is greatly reduced to stop cracks when post heated. Did you try back purging? Could easily contribute to immediate cracks. Maybe none of this works still... but I’m just wondering how the answer is just don’t weld this, without more testing than what you guys did here.....
was considering picking up a titanium exhaust to cut n weld onto my oem exhaust n this video saved me a lot of money n time
Love this series on experimenting with different materials. Even though you say it's pretty obvious they won't work, it is still really cool to see the reaction. Never would have thought this would actually repel like it did.
I know nothing about welding and this was perfectly accessible to me. I loved the method:
Pose the quandary
Give a demo
Explain the results
You didn't talk down, you just warned. Great stuff, thanks for such a great video.
Hi Wyatt - you are always teaching all of us a bunch - Thanks!
You can weld it With TIG just use industrial silver filler metal. It works great to bond titanium to steel. Weard puddle but it works great.
We were goofing around and tried this and while we ended up with the crap we expected .Unlike yours it was strong enough to handle.I tried to drag the puddle into each material vs make a bead and while it was the failure we expected it was fun to play around with
Disappointed-face from 5:14. Lol, thanks for the video, very educational.
would silicon bronze work in this case?
To be honest we have never tried it, however it is unlikely.
it works..but its only brazing (no cross contamination as no pooling) so not much strength. we put together an exhaust using silbronze and it looked really interesting when polished..i dont know how it held up but the customer hasn't brought it back so i guess its stayed fixed.
I tried it today and no it didn't
use a v band clamp with one titanium ring and one stainless ring clamped, at least for exhaust systems
Thats what I'll be doing with my exhaust system in the near future. 304 downpipe to Ti cat-back
Good idea!
Your titanium videos show the importance of extreme cleaning, back purge, long post flow/trailing gas, temperature control. Not saying it would make any difference to the end result but starting with weld conditions that create issues with one of the base metals isn't a good way to try and successfully weld them.
No short cuts!
Thanks!!!
Can hear it at 2:35 & 4:37 starting to crack.... Silicon/phosphorus bronze maybe??? I worked for a company that claimed they accomplished a one-off part by laser welding the two with a deoxidized copper strip between them without filler. Although I can not contest or verify that.
Im sure they will braz together.
Wontering if you could coat both in flux an use a low amprage tig braze with 56% silver?
so what if we tig weld with silicone bronze?
I'd be interested to see a titanium-stainless steel weld be attempted with a nickel filler rod, as is used for cast iron repair some times.
the nickel would fuse to the stainless and maybe melt onto the titanium but it would just crack and be brittle and break off of the titanium.
I know that it probably doesn't exist as a rod but would ferrotitanium alloy work as a welding material in your opinion? Also would something that they both alloy with easily like chromium work to weld them?
Hi Mr Tig, I'm working on a sculpture design that is going to incorporate stainless 316 & copper, have you ever covered this?
Hi, I wanted to know why when welding titanium welding cracks , which parameters should be encuenta to make a good weld without cracking. Thank you
What about brazing the to together? I have a titanium rotor off a jet and making a table out of it and want to braze stainless legs to it. How well will this work?
How well did it work?
Thank you for this video!!!
Just curious. Could one lug together, say, atitanium and steel bike frame using brazed steel lugs?
Thanks for the video, very informative. I was just wondering if the E-Z Weld rod with the flux in it would possibly work. In the video you did with this rod, you welded cast iron with it and said that it could weld cast iron, stainless, carbon steel and copper. I bought some of the rods and it does work on stainless and carbon just fine. When you welded the cast iron with it, was it actually welding or just brazing? I seemed to remember that you didn't use very much heat. Thanks for the great vids. Dan.
Which rod is use in this welding?
Wow..just like water and oil!
interesting
What material bonds to each metal?
hey Mr. tig what about welding 316 ti too titanium ? there is probably a higher chance of success. as it got some titanium in it
Stainless is still an iron based alloy, so the small amount of Ti in it would not be enough to create a matrix that would have any observable strength. You'd PROBABLY have more luck Silver Brazing Stainless to Ti. With enough skill you can make a silver brazed joint that is almost indistinguishable from a Tig joint at first glance
great info thanks
What welding sleeves do you use?
The Torch Wear X-Sleeves. They are an amazing product, as are most of the Torch Wear line. here's a link to the sleeves on his site: www.torchwear.com/welding-sleeve.php
try it with copper filler
I saw a video of someone welding 2 dissimilar metals with copper filler with good results. I don't remember what they were though.
Is this the same with steel? Titanium welded to steel?
I wonder if you could stir weld steel to titanium
Ive seen stainless to carbon in the field quite a few times and carbon to chrome
this is what flanges are for :D
Honestly I only watched this to see if it was even possible, kinda in a sticky situation involving a stripped titanium bolt :-) hopefully I can figure it out
Silicon Bronze!
If you wanna go titanium to stainless, use flanges
2 way slip fitting
Problem solved
Slip joints seem to always leak though
Oh wow, that sucks but good video. Guess you can't weld in a vibrant stainless resonator into a tomei titanium exhaust 😂
Why would you not tack both ends instead of burning through like that lol
this is disappointing. thanks for trying it out so we don't have to
I am happy i can weld it
No, you can't.
The real problem- when you weld titanium and you make a mistake and take stainless filler rod. It welds ok, so you keep on welding untill you realise that you ruined few parts... ...and then you realise that titanium is not cheap material... happened to me twice.
Kevin Rausl you'd think after the first time you'd check what material you're using
How can you weld this for educational purpose, and not use a purge gas on the back side of the plates. No wonder its not bonding, you are burning off the titanium.
Seems like this is a bare bones, lazy experiment.. so could we try pre heat or post heat? We all know cast, aluminum, inconel.... that’s all I know of off the top of my head... these metals weld better when pre heated and stress is greatly reduced to stop cracks when post heated. Did you try back purging? Could easily contribute to immediate cracks. Maybe none of this works still... but I’m just wondering how the answer is just don’t weld this, without more testing than what you guys did here.....
You're doing it wrong. Use silver brazing rod.
Charlie Devine then you’re not welding if you’re brazing
I welded titanium all grades for 5 years. You can't bond any other metal to it. Nor do you want to.
Waste of such nice metal.
You would be better off with epoxy