It changed my perspective on a lot. Like the way people project their own guilt onto others and the way justice can still be wrong even though it feels so right.
I thought everything he was saying was obvious. It was frustrating watching everyone say that Baltar was guilty for signing something at gunpoint. It felt so cathartic having Lee call everyone out for their BS.
For me it didn't change my perspective because it was the way I already felt. That was one of my favorite things about Lee is that he almost always said what I was thinking and this was one of those moments but obviously Lee put it into words much much better than I would have lol. But yeah Lee's perspective was similar to my perspective on Gaius. I always loved Gaius and I always felt empathy for him. Gaius was without a doubt in the most difficult position of anyone in the entire show and I always judged his actions with that in mind. "Colony" is another sci fi serious that has a lot of these philosophical concepts in it, I heavily recommend you check it out. There's a character similar to Baltar who makes decisions that make him seem like an asshole, but he's really playing the long game and the decisions he made were for the better interest of the majority of people later on.
Listened to the Battlestar Galacticast episode about this episode and Tricia Helfer said Jamie Bamber wrote most of this speech himself. Said the script had a short monologue, and Bamber decided Lee had more to say than that
@@Heatr53 Awesome anecdote. Bamber's a very intelligent guy, and get the impression he thought quite deeply about his character. Loved him in the show, and identified a lot with Lee.
Yup. It's so heavily influenced by post-9/11 terror/anti-terror culture. The film The Bourne Ultimatum and the novel A Most Wanted Man, coming out around the same time, dealt with the same questions - unacceptable threats that bred unacceptable countermeasures, and the end of moral clarity.
I think, regardless of all space battles, badass and emotional moments, this episode has to be my favourite. Baltar's trial encapsulates everything that Battlestar represents to me. It's about people coming to the realisation that their way of life is gone and they need to adapt, because the game has changed so radically that they can't hold this world to the standards of their old ones.
Fuck! This was some amazing writing done right here. I hated Balatr so much for excatly the reasons Lee stated and was then forced to actually agree with Baltar being aquitted.
I never hated him. I saw him as a flawed man that let his urges and desires corrupt the parts of him that was geniusly brilliant and strong... but hey here was an Aerilon man fleeing his upbringing and got corrupted by the wider caprican culture, so to speak.
Even out of context, this speech is amazing. Personally I think a LOT of young people would be doing themselves a service to listen, truly listen to this speech and try and a apply it to their own lives.
I was watching the show, that very moment with a friend of mine who did not know BSG at all, I just sumed him the big lines. After that scene he was like "Is that the best show ever written? How come I want to watch a Sci-fi TV show just based on a trial scene with people in court and no laser in sight?! That's hell of a show here!"
Near the end Lee talked about wanting to airlock Baltar and hope it would take away all of there guilt and pain like when Christ was crucified. Funny thing is that Baltar actually looks like Jesus.
The shame of those who collaborated with the Cylons. The shame of those who committed terrorist acts against their own people. And the shame of those who ran away.
This, combined with other decisions made previously is why I like the character Apollo... He does the right thing because it is necessary, and not because it's easy and no matter what it may cost him personally… He is every sense of the word: Conscience He is the conscience of humanity...
I really liked his one line near the end where he suggests our technology has outraced our hearts. He put it more eloquently than I can paraphrase but it moved me
Apollo is sooo well written. In this scene, he made me think of a young Picard. Characters like Roslin build up this cold and self-righteous persona, so quick to judge and design scapegoats, yet that only masks intimate weakness and immaturity. Apollo is literally crippled by doubts and empathy which make him question everything about himself, but he ends up being right precisely because of that. Such a beautiful character. But all characters in BSG are well written and very complementary to each other. If only we could get such high quality writing today.
@@eugenioconti4688 I 100% agree! Roslin's persona, by the finale shows what that kind of mentality does to you...she practically gives up. This is why she is my least favorite character. What does Lee do when he see's a destroyed Earth? He presses on...
I always liked Lee. I understood why the fans found him largely forgettable compared with the more colourful characters, including his dad, but I always noticed him. Season 3's my least favourite but the New Caprica beginning plus this Baltar's trial ending plot really saved it.
I dont know if anyone will read this, but listen carefuly and you can hear a type writer clicking as they create the minutes for the trial. Great small detail I only noticed now.
I wonder if Lee would have defended Baltar if he'd known that: 1. Baltar was the reason the Cylons wiped out humanity. 2. Baltar was the reason his father got shot. 3. Baltar gave the nuke to Six which is the reason the cylons found New Caprica in the first place. Those are three very solid acts of treason right there. His actions as President of New Caprica just wasn't one of them.
Number one is later addressed by Rosalin wanting to let Baltar when he was given morphine for his injuries but her desire to keep her humanity made her forgive Baltar what he done As for number 3, remember this number six was raped by Pegasus' personnel who already had a shitty reputation for leaving civilians to die and serving as press ganged personnel and nearly raped Sharon in full view of her husband. Combined with Cain's own seething hatred toward Cylons and how this Six wanted to die and you have a reason why Baltar may have sympathized with her situation
he NEVER meant for it to happen. He had no idea that six was a Cylon...No One did. He was an asshole, and a dipshit. But, when an old man lost his ticket off world, Gaius found it, and informed the pilots of the truth. When he was on New Caprica, he did Try to help build a home for people. And when the cylons took over, he was FORCED to sign the death warrants, Against his will. Was he a traitor?....no.
@@dmar3651 Point 2 is about Sharon (Boomer) shooting William Adama. Baltar tested Boomer's blood and knew that Boomer was a Cylon long before she shot Adama but didn't say anything.
I wonder if the judges would have been so merciful if they knew the true extent of Baltar's treachery. The man who single-handedly sealed the fate of the Twelve Colonies.
Unwillingly, but yeah he did. Then again remember that all of this has happened before, and was happening again. Baltar was a part of the greater plan. The destruction of the old and decadent and the rebirth of humanity.
You don't have to wonder. They almost certainly wouldn't. Had that info been out, I think he might not even have gotten a trial because an angry mob would have lynched him.
It wasn't underrated. It was one of the highest (the highest?) rated show on SciFi for its entire run. The fact that it's still remembered now is a testament to how well it was received then as well.
This is the ONLY instance in entertainment that skilfully illustrates the DIFFERENCE between JUSTICE and REVENGE. Because they are different and too many people these days want REVENGE, not JUSTICE.
I just cringe that this whole trial happens, and no one brings up that they had a ship blown up by a nuke, and Baltar can't account for the one they were dumb enough to let him handle.
Nope, Lee is always about doing the morally right thing, even when he gets it wrong he still tries. If he knew about the Nuke, he wouldve probably let him get thown out the airlock. But he didnt know, it was just about what Baltar did on thw planet when the Cylons took over, and in that contexts Baltar didnt do anything wrong
@@shadowphoenix1696 that’s true, though it’s one of those things where he did do something illegal that lead to mass destruction and death. Him giving Gina the bomb also led to the occupation. But within the context of this trial and what he’s charged with you are technically correct. Even sneaking Caprica into the defense mainframe, which he himself admitted was a capital offense by Colonial law. Tbh, I’ve never been a particularly huge fan of Baltar constantly doubling down throughout the series and insisting he did nothing wrong because he was ignorant of the true purpose of a crime he was already privy to…to the point of willful stupidity.
@WiiMan1133 Oh very much so. I like Baltar because he's a fascinating character to watch, very complex in his journey. He knows what he's done he knows he's guilty of those things, but he is cowardly and selfish and a survivor. And if you tell a lie a long enough, you start to believe it, especially if there's a little truth to the lie. Like the defence mainframe, yes, he commented a capital offences that would get him executed, but there was no way he could've known that it was a Cylon ploy. My favourite characters are Starbuck Tigh Adama But Baltar is probably the most complex character of them all once you look past his cowardly side and an absolutely fascinating cast of human behaviour. Because as much as many of us will deny it, more people are like Baltar in one way or another than any of the other characters in this show
@@shadowphoenix1696 you have a really compelling analysis of Baltar. And I agree, he’s lying to himself and embracing the lie as truth. But I disagree with the idea that most humans are more like him than we care to admit. Do we lie to ourselves about some things? Absolutely. But would we all lie to protect ourselves when we’ve knowingly committed a terrible crime that we know could lead to a great deal of destruction when said destruction is several orders of magnitude worse than we could ever imagine? Idk about that. But maybe it’s bc I try to be a little more hopeful about humans, which is why Gaeta and Dualla were my favorite characters…and why I hated their ends.
@WiiMan1133 you got to remember with Baltar that his biggest lies came after the fact. He never intented or even knew that those things would happen, the crime has been committed already, and owning up now wouldn't change anything. But he did commit the crimes and he knows hes responsible in one way or another. So he lies, first just to not excuted but then to exonerate himself for any wrong doing to get rid of the guilt and shame, but he never can because no matter how much he believes his own lies, theres always apart of him that knows the truth. Ok maybe i was being a bit hyperbolic when i said most, lets say quite a few people would be. But not that they are like him but more that a lot of use can very easly act like Baltar in one way or another in horrific situations.
If this was a real trial, Apollo wouldn't have been allowed to just go off on a rampant. The prosecutor would have stopped this. Great scene, good dramatic effect, but hardly realistic if it was supposed to be a trial.
Do you know what the 12 Colonies justice system was like. It appears that it was left to the discretion of the judges as to whether someone got to speak or not.
It was an unstable society. Normal procedure got nuked out of existence with 12 billion people. I get your point, but it’s pedantic; just enjoy the show!
he says the same thing in his very own speech, they are a gang that is on the run. law doesn't work like it should, trials doesn't work, nothing is. you just improvise. if you go back enough in the episodes leading up to the trial, even the trials formation is wrong.
After the nuclear apocalypse there seemed to be only a few dozens lawyers left at best with maybe a handful of judges- perhaps no judges. Thus the trial would never hold up to legal scrutiny and that was Apollo's point: they weren't a civilization, simply a gang on the run.
@OrcaBob 27 You're so freaking right. Look, we're all in this together, and the way I see it, the people that want to victimize themselves and hop out of the giant boat on this sea of life are the ones that are screaming an anti-unity message. Sheesh, I'm not saying we need a New World Order! We just need to understand that we're all human, and we all make mistakes. I'd even be willing to FORGIVE the fools at CNN, because hey! We've all been fools before, and we've all cried and complained in an attempt to get what we want. It's human nature to put up a fight - why can't it be human nature to reconcile as well? But as you've pointed out - "Ah yes, let's throw out Trump because, well..." Eh, as Joni Mitchell puts it, we're all on this carnival of life. The carousel goes round and round in the circle game, and as BSG (thankfully) points out, all of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again. Two hundred years from now (provided the Second Messiah doesn't come down or something), we'll be having these same old arguments, same old squabbles. People always seem to learn too little too late, but that's human nature. All we can do is sigh and love them.
This one scene completely changed my perspective on a character after three whole seasons...that's how good the writing on Galactica was.
totally agree!
It changed my perspective on a lot. Like the way people project their own guilt onto others and the way justice can still be wrong even though it feels so right.
Remember when tv was this good?
I thought everything he was saying was obvious. It was frustrating watching everyone say that Baltar was guilty for signing something at gunpoint. It felt so cathartic having Lee call everyone out for their BS.
For me it didn't change my perspective because it was the way I already felt. That was one of my favorite things about Lee is that he almost always said what I was thinking and this was one of those moments but obviously Lee put it into words much much better than I would have lol. But yeah Lee's perspective was similar to my perspective on Gaius. I always loved Gaius and I always felt empathy for him. Gaius was without a doubt in the most difficult position of anyone in the entire show and I always judged his actions with that in mind. "Colony" is another sci fi serious that has a lot of these philosophical concepts in it, I heavily recommend you check it out. There's a character similar to Baltar who makes decisions that make him seem like an asshole, but he's really playing the long game and the decisions he made were for the better interest of the majority of people later on.
"We ran away." That made Adama realize he couldn't judge Gaius without taking some of the blame himself.
That's obviously wrong.
Jamie Bamber deserved an Emmy for this episode.
Listened to the Battlestar Galacticast episode about this episode and Tricia Helfer said Jamie Bamber wrote most of this speech himself. Said the script had a short monologue, and Bamber decided Lee had more to say than that
@@Heatr53 Awesome anecdote. Bamber's a very intelligent guy, and get the impression he thought quite deeply about his character. Loved him in the show, and identified a lot with Lee.
Indeed. 👏
Apollo was the one with the real perspective.
The god Apollo is the light bringer.
I believe Bamber got a standing ovation from the cast and crew after the scene was completed.
RocketGuardian that he didn’t get an Emmy nod is absolute insanity. Totally insane.
He deserved it. That was some speech.
And he did it in one take
@@kevynknotts9124 and he wrote the speech himself
@@maoad_dib Wow, well as I watched this speech...he really convinced me with it. One of my favorite scenes in BSG.
My favorite thing about the show... Imposible decisions.
If they wanted to throw the book at Baltar, there was wayyy too much dirty laundry in everyone's closets for it to be sincere.
Yup. It's so heavily influenced by post-9/11 terror/anti-terror culture. The film The Bourne Ultimatum and the novel A Most Wanted Man, coming out around the same time, dealt with the same questions - unacceptable threats that bred unacceptable countermeasures, and the end of moral clarity.
@@boiledelephant That's good stuff!
"Did he commit treason?"
Cylon Six: Ha!
I think this is one of the best speech's ever made in a movie/series. Just fantastic.
I think, regardless of all space battles, badass and emotional moments, this episode has to be my favourite. Baltar's trial encapsulates everything that Battlestar represents to me. It's about people coming to the realisation that their way of life is gone and they need to adapt, because the game has changed so radically that they can't hold this world to the standards of their old ones.
I have a strange weakness for "trial" and "meeting" episodes. Worf's trial and "Under Pale Moonlight" in DS9, "Agendas" in Young Justice, and this.
@@PetersaberHD Also Measure of a Man and Drumhead.
I guess Roslin slipped in a dislike :p
😂
This is why I loved Lee Adama
Yeah, really empathised with his character right from the beginning.
Fuck! This was some amazing writing done right here. I hated Balatr so much for excatly the reasons Lee stated and was then forced to actually agree with Baltar being aquitted.
Apparently, after this scene, Jamie (the actor who plays Apollo) got a standing ovation from the rest of the cast.
@@Mobius_118 Well deserved
I never hated him. I saw him as a flawed man that let his urges and desires corrupt the parts of him that was geniusly brilliant and strong... but hey here was an Aerilon man fleeing his upbringing and got corrupted by the wider caprican culture, so to speak.
Blatar was vain, arrogant and weak. But he wasn’t a traitor on purpose.
The writing on this show was nothing short of amazing.
Even out of context, this speech is amazing. Personally I think a LOT of young people would be doing themselves a service to listen, truly listen to this speech and try and a apply it to their own lives.
I was watching the show, that very moment with a friend of mine who did not know BSG at all, I just sumed him the big lines. After that scene he was like "Is that the best show ever written? How come I want to watch a Sci-fi TV show just based on a trial scene with people in court and no laser in sight?! That's hell of a show here!"
Near the end Lee talked about wanting to airlock Baltar and hope it would take away all of there guilt and pain like when Christ was crucified. Funny thing is that Baltar actually looks like Jesus.
And after trial he becomes the centre of a religious cult movement! I'm assuming the parallels were very deliberate.
@@boiledelephant they were, was one of the messages of the series
Yeah I'm pretty sure the idea was he was sci-fi Jesus
it’s not by chance
He dun look middle-eastern enough.
How has this been up for 6 years and still have 0 likes? This speech was one of *the* *most* powerful moments in BSG!
because the world is sleeping.. it realy is. ;) we're a rare species..
Nick Gardiner did u forgot to take your treatment?🧐🤪
Brings tears to my eyes... very passionate.
too good, after 10 years
still watching this sometimes lol
I still am :3
I just watched this episode. And honestly? It's my favourite one so far.
still gets me many years later.. this show was somethin else, wasnt it :)
Lee says he's the coward as he stands up to, and tells off, his father and Roslin simultaneously. He was wrong. He's extremely courageous.
The shame of those who collaborated with the Cylons. The shame of those who committed terrorist acts against their own people. And the shame of those who ran away.
Captain Apollo's greatest moment on BSG
One if the best show speeches ever. Credit to the writers and Bamber...
This case is built on emotion. On anger and bitterness. That sounds eerily familiar right now
Yup that ain't Justice that's Mob Rule.
2 riders were approaching, and the wind began to howl!
This, combined with other decisions made previously is why I like the character Apollo...
He does the right thing because it is necessary, and not because it's easy and no matter what it may cost him personally…
He is every sense of the word: Conscience
He is the conscience of humanity...
I really liked his one line near the end where he suggests our technology has outraced our hearts. He put it more eloquently than I can paraphrase but it moved me
Apollo is sooo well written. In this scene, he made me think of a young Picard. Characters like Roslin build up this cold and self-righteous persona, so quick to judge and design scapegoats, yet that only masks intimate weakness and immaturity. Apollo is literally crippled by doubts and empathy which make him question everything about himself, but he ends up being right precisely because of that. Such a beautiful character. But all characters in BSG are well written and very complementary to each other. If only we could get such high quality writing today.
@@eugenioconti4688 I 100% agree! Roslin's persona, by the finale shows what that kind of mentality does to you...she practically gives up. This is why she is my least favorite character.
What does Lee do when he see's a destroyed Earth? He presses on...
This scene was classic
I was impressed and this speech made me adore Apollo and the actor as a fave!!!
I always liked Lee. I understood why the fans found him largely forgettable compared with the more colourful characters, including his dad, but I always noticed him. Season 3's my least favourite but the New Caprica beginning plus this Baltar's trial ending plot really saved it.
Man... LEE broke IT down! 🎬🔥
this is clearly my most looped video here. love it. thank you for uploading this, and a happy new year :)
This is the greatest show in history.
I consider this a defining moment in the series
I'm glad I found this. It seems to resonate at a time when we're pulling down statues and firing people for ten-year old tweets.
Wtf?
B altar was equitted 3 to 2... guess we know why are here two dislikes.
Helluva speech. You will never see anything like this in real life.
Apollo was the God of Enlightenment
“He did what he thought was right.”
“Of course he did: he’s Lee…”
How forgiving would you be if you knew Baltar created the reason for this “gang” to come into being?
I dont know if anyone will read this, but listen carefuly and you can hear a type writer clicking as they create the minutes for the trial. Great small detail I only noticed now.
Lee: Did he commit treason?
Cylons: You betcha.
Now that is exceptional tv!
This is a scene every law school student should watch at least once.
I wonder if Lee would have defended Baltar if he'd known that:
1. Baltar was the reason the Cylons wiped out humanity.
2. Baltar was the reason his father got shot.
3. Baltar gave the nuke to Six which is the reason the cylons found New Caprica in the first place.
Those are three very solid acts of treason right there. His actions as President of New Caprica just wasn't one of them.
Number one is later addressed by Rosalin wanting to let Baltar when he was given morphine for his injuries but her desire to keep her humanity made her forgive Baltar what he done
As for number 3, remember this number six was raped by Pegasus' personnel who already had a shitty reputation for leaving civilians to die and serving as press ganged personnel and nearly raped Sharon in full view of her husband. Combined with Cain's own seething hatred toward Cylons and how this Six wanted to die and you have a reason why Baltar may have sympathized with her situation
he NEVER meant for it to happen.
He had no idea that six was a Cylon...No One did.
He was an asshole, and a dipshit.
But, when an old man lost his ticket off world, Gaius found it, and informed the pilots of the truth.
When he was on New Caprica, he did Try to help build a home for people.
And when the cylons took over, he was FORCED to sign the death warrants, Against his will.
Was he a traitor?....no.
@@dmar3651 Point 2 is about Sharon (Boomer) shooting William Adama. Baltar tested Boomer's blood and knew that Boomer was a Cylon long before she shot Adama but didn't say anything.
I wonder if the judges would have been so merciful if they knew the true extent of Baltar's treachery. The man who single-handedly sealed the fate of the Twelve Colonies.
Unwillingly, but yeah he did.
Then again remember that all of this has happened before, and was happening again. Baltar was a part of the greater plan. The destruction of the old and decadent and the rebirth of humanity.
You don't have to wonder. They almost certainly wouldn't. Had that info been out, I think he might not even have gotten a trial because an angry mob would have lynched him.
If only they knew who gave the Cylones access to the Colonial defense mainframe!
Most underater show of all time 😐
It wasn't underrated. It was one of the highest (the highest?) rated show on SciFi for its entire run. The fact that it's still remembered now is a testament to how well it was received then as well.
I love Lee speech he speak the truth
This is the ONLY instance in entertainment that skilfully illustrates the DIFFERENCE between JUSTICE and REVENGE. Because they are different and too many people these days want REVENGE, not JUSTICE.
Yes he did he,gave comand codes of global security of all 12 colonys
he thought he was involved in corporate espionage. he had no idea that his girlfriend was a Cylon, and thus the enemy
I remembered this fantastic script after starting to see reactions to Trump being diagnosed with covid
What
I just cringe that this whole trial happens, and no one brings up that they had a ship blown up by a nuke, and Baltar can't account for the one they were dumb enough to let him handle.
Would Lee have said all that he did in Gaius's defense if he knew that Baltar had given Gina that nuke?
Nope, Lee is always about doing the morally right thing, even when he gets it wrong he still tries.
If he knew about the Nuke, he wouldve probably let him get thown out the airlock.
But he didnt know, it was just about what Baltar did on thw planet when the Cylons took over, and in that contexts Baltar didnt do anything wrong
@@shadowphoenix1696 that’s true, though it’s one of those things where he did do something illegal that lead to mass destruction and death. Him giving Gina the bomb also led to the occupation. But within the context of this trial and what he’s charged with you are technically correct.
Even sneaking Caprica into the defense mainframe, which he himself admitted was a capital offense by Colonial law.
Tbh, I’ve never been a particularly huge fan of Baltar constantly doubling down throughout the series and insisting he did nothing wrong because he was ignorant of the true purpose of a crime he was already privy to…to the point of willful stupidity.
@WiiMan1133 Oh very much so.
I like Baltar because he's a fascinating character to watch, very complex in his journey.
He knows what he's done he knows he's guilty of those things, but he is cowardly and selfish and a survivor.
And if you tell a lie a long enough, you start to believe it, especially if there's a little truth to the lie.
Like the defence mainframe, yes, he commented a capital offences that would get him executed, but there was no way he could've known that it was a Cylon ploy.
My favourite characters are
Starbuck
Tigh
Adama
But Baltar is probably the most complex character of them all once you look past his cowardly side and an absolutely fascinating cast of human behaviour.
Because as much as many of us will deny it, more people are like Baltar in one way or another than any of the other characters in this show
@@shadowphoenix1696 you have a really compelling analysis of Baltar. And I agree, he’s lying to himself and embracing the lie as truth.
But I disagree with the idea that most humans are more like him than we care to admit. Do we lie to ourselves about some things? Absolutely. But would we all lie to protect ourselves when we’ve knowingly committed a terrible crime that we know could lead to a great deal of destruction when said destruction is several orders of magnitude worse than we could ever imagine? Idk about that.
But maybe it’s bc I try to be a little more hopeful about humans, which is why Gaeta and Dualla were my favorite characters…and why I hated their ends.
@WiiMan1133 you got to remember with Baltar that his biggest lies came after the fact. He never intented or even knew that those things would happen, the crime has been committed already, and owning up now wouldn't change anything. But he did commit the crimes and he knows hes responsible in one way or another.
So he lies, first just to not excuted but then to exonerate himself for any wrong doing to get rid of the guilt and shame, but he never can because no matter how much he believes his own lies, theres always apart of him that knows the truth.
Ok maybe i was being a bit hyperbolic when i said most, lets say quite a few people would be.
But not that they are like him but more that a lot of use can very easly act like Baltar in one way or another in horrific situations.
At 2:00 - total gut-punch to Adama by his son.
he has a few points.
Yeah but still he technically worked with the enemy. So get him.
They hated Jesus because he told the truth
Interesting speech; but remember this; there's justice in the courts & justice in the streets.
To me Galactica, for some reason was meh. Until this episode, until this speech.
The Trial of Donald Trump
Baltar is basically Trump.
I hated Roslin and loved Baltar from the start of the miniseries, this just solidified it.
If this was a real trial, Apollo wouldn't have been allowed to just go off on a rampant. The prosecutor would have stopped this. Great scene, good dramatic effect, but hardly realistic if it was supposed to be a trial.
Do you know what the 12 Colonies justice system was like. It appears that it was left to the discretion of the judges as to whether someone got to speak or not.
Jeff Burnham they wouldn’t be in space being chased by killer robots either, but I get your point
It was an unstable society. Normal procedure got nuked out of existence with 12 billion people. I get your point, but it’s pedantic; just enjoy the show!
he says the same thing in his very own speech, they are a gang that is on the run. law doesn't work like it should, trials doesn't work, nothing is. you just improvise. if you go back enough in the episodes leading up to the trial, even the trials formation is wrong.
After the nuclear apocalypse there seemed to be only a few dozens lawyers left at best with maybe a handful of judges- perhaps no judges. Thus the trial would never hold up to legal scrutiny and that was Apollo's point: they weren't a civilization, simply a gang on the run.
fkn pencil pusher
Haha, insert Trump comparison here
@OrcaBob 27 You're so freaking right. Look, we're all in this together, and the way I see it, the people that want to victimize themselves and hop out of the giant boat on this sea of life are the ones that are screaming an anti-unity message. Sheesh, I'm not saying we need a New World Order! We just need to understand that we're all human, and we all make mistakes. I'd even be willing to FORGIVE the fools at CNN, because hey! We've all been fools before, and we've all cried and complained in an attempt to get what we want. It's human nature to put up a fight - why can't it be human nature to reconcile as well? But as you've pointed out - "Ah yes, let's throw out Trump because, well..."
Eh, as Joni Mitchell puts it, we're all on this carnival of life. The carousel goes round and round in the circle game, and as BSG (thankfully) points out, all of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again. Two hundred years from now (provided the Second Messiah doesn't come down or something), we'll be having these same old arguments, same old squabbles. People always seem to learn too little too late, but that's human nature. All we can do is sigh and love them.
The problem with this speech is that it gave us Ben Shapiro. An individual who wields intellectual dishonesty like armour.
I know it's been 11 months, but did this scene inspire him to get involved in politics or what? Not really seeing the relation
@@Nethalythic It has nothing whatsoever to do with Ben Shapiro. The OP is trolling.
Best Lee scene in series.