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I always keep dry training all winter, trying to get that perfect and consistent mount. Started shooting late in life so Learned from this channel, and The smoking targets series with Ben.
Yes David spot on advise as usual ,I shoot a lot of fast close targets by instinct & you will be surprised how well you can hit them this way, I say to my mate use the force Luke .Myself I shoot an adjustable Browning ultra XS prestige 32" Adjustable stock as I like it a bit higher than most as I like to see a lot of the clay and it works for me. Thanks Roger.
best shooting advice on the net.....simple and to the point very well done...keep up the good work guys.
David has neglected to explain the cause for shooters leaning their head over the stock in order to get their eye in line with the rib. As someone with this issue I was left to discover what I was doing wrong. Because some class A and AA shooters that I shoot with on the weekends had no solution to offer, they simply told me I had to get my head level. I also spent some time and money with a professional fitter and he stated the same, get the head level without any hint as to how to accomplish this. So, I spend time watching videos and in one video with Lloyd Pattison I noticed that he had his nose a fair bit closer to the stock than I do. If you look at David as he is shooting in this video you will also see that he has his nose pointing towards the barrel with the nose somewhat close to the stock
It turns out out I was keeping my head Square to the centerline of the shotgun. I then spent some time in a mirror trying things out and observing the effects. As so as I rotated my head so that my nose was closer to the stock I suddenly had to level my eyes in order to have my shooting eye in line with the rib. Being an Engineer basically from birth I then took notice of the pressure points of my face against the stock and noticed one thing that allows me to quickly reference my head position against the stock. When my head is level I feel an equal level of pressure at my cheek and my upper lip pressing against my bicuspids. Note there are 2 bicuspids on each side of our mouth and they roughly correspond with the K9 teeth on a dog. Do not know if this well hold true with every head shape but it may provide some guidance.
So, David, when you are instructing someone to get their head level I would advise that you tell them this can be accomplished by simply rolling the head on a vertical axis so that the nose is brought closer to the stock. As for why this works, that is simple. Our faces are narrower towards the front and when you rotate the front of the head closer to the stock the shooting eye is also brought closer to the centerline of the rib.
I thank you so much for these comments, this is a problem I have been facing and with a bit of practice of your methods I hope to be a better shot.
Stay well.
Ash from Scotland 🏴
After watching your videos I have went out and purchased a Beretta 690. And I'm going trap shooting for the 1st time tomorrow..I have learned a lot from you, and I am really looking forward to my first trap shoot... thanks
Thanks, great point. I have done that in the past. Just being a WiseAss. Really you have to see the pieces and then steer with your nose.
I thought I had eye dominance issues and used to shut an eye. It really messed me up. Had a lesson with David and learnt within an hour how to shoot with both eyes open. Can’t express how much my shooting has improved. Thanks David
No problem it was great to meet you
What's the trick to being a
righty with left eye dominance?
@@jarrettmoore6237 ,
Looking with both eyes over the barrel...
You start at the beginning of the barrel and then follow the barrel towards the target....
In the beginning it feels like you are forcing yourself to a cross eyed looking over the barrel.
Practice it daily for about 5 minutes.... You can use a simple Broome stick if you don't want to offset your neighbors....😉🤗🤓
Thank you again David cannot wait till you are open again I do need some practice, it is like starting from basic again.
Thanks Keith see you soon.
Excellent, I am guilty of doing everything you talked about. I will put this information in my mind set next time shooting
From Sunny Southern California - I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS ! They have helped me tremendously. But you asked for feedback on this so I have to say I am a one-eyed shooter because I wear mono contacts - one for distance and one for close up. So my shooting eye stays open and my left one must be closed. That would be a reason for not having both eyes open. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR VIDEOS !
Today I had my first lesson after 26 years ( in London) , back then I shot with both eyes open and today I started with hitting nothing, after a few shots the instructor worked it out. I kept both eyes open and in the seconds before taking the shot I shut my right eye, so happy as I hit them every time thereafter.
My instructor kept going on about my cheek and leaning forward, got it in the end.
This channel has got me back into a hobby I enjoyed years ago, one day I hope to visit the Oxford gun company.
Keep up the excellent videos as they’ve have been the antidote to lockdown and my night shift work.
So pleased to hear this
Thank you for this and I am glad you love the sport if you would like to give David a call about coming up he is more then happy to chat to you 01844 238 308.
Greetings (to all) from across the pond. More instructional videos that provide tips such as the ones you mentioned in this video are very helpful. Please do more videos like this. They are extremely helpful. Thank you.
I am glad you enjoyed this and if you are ever over in the U.K you should come and see David at The Shooting School, you are more then welcome to give him a call to chat on 01844 238 308.
Thank you
Ash from Scotland 🏴
Also good practice for keeping your head on the stock.
Thanks for sharing
A very good video great information David, thank you Sir stay safe.👍👍👍
Love watching your stuff
Excellent David really enjoy your videos
Really enjoying your videos!!
Thanks David very helpful
Thank you for another great video and some more great advice. Might have to give that double shot ago next time I'm out
Yes do
As how your showing, I watch the target with both eye open and bring the gun to the head, never fixing on the sights. The same as when one is in the field hunting. The only difference in my method of instinct shooting is that even in competition, be it Sporting-Clays, Trap or Skeet I always start from the low-gun position. Since when hunting one never knows when a bird will present it self, plus one must identify the target before firing. Still a very good sequence you've put together to educate the novice wing shooter. Well done.
Love this video
In Australia
I only shoot DTL
Thank you for the advice. I usually shot traps myself but I have been going to a facility now and I seem to be more successful there with Full Chokes instead of Improved Cylinders. 16 yard house ahead makes a big difference!
You are very welcome and thanks for your comment if you would like to pop to Oxford you can always come and shoot with David. 01844 238 308.
I have one good eye and a single shot. Just sayin'
This has been so helpful. Thank you for giving us this gem.
Good info! Thx!
Thanks, that was your best 😃👍
Thank you, David for your insightful videos. Greetings from Gulf Coast Clays in Naples, Florida, USA!
Thank you for your nice comment and I am glad you enjoy the films if you are ever in the U.K please come and see us? We do have TSC caps if you would like one please give us an email david@oxfordguncompany.co.uk.
Spot on.....then there is eye dominance issues which is opening a can of worms.....
Great advice.
Thank You M.r Dave. Cheers
Excellent video, can’t wait to try it out. I recently acquired a right handed shotgun, only to discover left eye dominance.
Thanks! Learned a lot. I'm new to shotguns
Thanks David, keep safe 👍👍
Thanks, you too!
Great video again I do tilt my head I know it's wrong doing I watch you mount your gun you make it look easy iv even changed my gun to try to solve this issue more practice I think thanks for the vid learnt a lot cheers 👍👍
What we're here for, glad I'm helping.
great little video, cannot wait to get back out there.
Thank you and we would love to meet you some time.
Good advice, especially keeping head level so eyes can judge aim and not being fixated with gun. Only thing is I was taught not to shoot with the gun already mounted in the sporting discipline. I've noticed few people are complying anymore with the original rules. To be fair starting mounted does make things somewhat easier.
Thnak you and if you would like top chat this though please give David a call on 01844 238 308.
Sound advice thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
I have been shooting clays now week after week for two years now. The problem I have is that I have been a target shooter ie rifle / pistol most of my life and tend to shoot with my left eye closed. I usually shoot at the 80 to 87% mark doing this so I really have to concentrate more to learn to shoot with both eyes open, but for me I admit it is hard. Good video as usual, well done...
Excellent video David
That is awesome advice
Am enjoying it thanks coach
Glad to hear it!
Great video very educational 👍
Great video David. I do a lot of rifle shooting where I use only one eye but when I use a shotgun I keep both eyes open. I've been asked lots of times how can you hit the target when you don't use the sight, use the sight I don't even see the gun when I'm shooting I only see the bird/target. I think what helps in my case is I don't have a dominant eye.
You've told me off for this countless times! Can't wait to be back
Thank you Ryan and David looks forward to seeing you very soon.
The main reason you should shoot with both eyes open it that is the way you judge distance , with one eye closed it is very hard to judge distance .If your master eye is different from your dominant hand , eg: right handed left eye dominant , the easiest way to get around the problem is learn to shoot off your other shoulder , if done early enough it will not be a problem . If you shoot rifles you should also shoot with both eyes open , this reduces eye strain . Eye sight is the first thing to go when you become dehydrated so keep your fluids up .
Agreed, I am a lefty with right eye dominance and re-learned how to shoot off the right shoulder and now it feels weird shouldering off the left
Thanks 👍🇺🇸
Yes. I was having a problem with that, so I fitted an adjustable butt plate just to see if it would help, and... all the shooting grounds had to close, so I haven't had a chance to try it yet. Roll on the 29th
just shoot an easy target and adjust it to suite simples ,till you smoke em
Amazing
It is usefull, thank you
Thanks
Thanks shooting the chip might help. I switched from right to left after shooting 1 eye closed right for 55 years. After 2 years of left hand practice my problem is the left eye still closes just before I pull the trigger. Still hit the clay but not ideal.
Another good one Dave. Can you do a vid about chokes?
If you only have one eye you can still do this exercise. Keeping both eyes open gives you better vision, but knowing which eye is your dominant eye is paramount to being able to shoot good scores. Also, knowing if your dominant eye is a strong dominant eye, or do you have a situation where your other eye is stealing some that dominance. That condition must be addressed immediately.
I think what you are trying to convey to us, is that by keeping your cheek locked to the stock your eyes can pickup the next target, thereby telling your brain to move your gun to that target. Your sight picture remains constant. That is you don't lift your face off the stock, and then try to repositions your cheek again for the second shot.
Sorry if I didn't understand you correctly.
A newbie and cant wait to put his advice into practice.
Thank you and I am glad you found this sport if you are ever in the Oxford area you should pop down and see David.
If you’re. Master eye is opposite to which side you mount and you keep both eyes open your shot will not go where you are looking. Keep both eyes open when you mount the gun but close your master eye as the gun hits your cheek. Then you will spot on.
Excellent video and advice!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I couldn't get my eyes level. Now I mount the gun a little bit further inside my shoulder and make sure my face is on top of that stock.
gold of tips!
Thanks.
Thank you sir.
Most welcome
Nice tip 👍👍
Beautiful lesson of English.
Excellent. Video
Thank you very much!
really good moor on sporting stands
Brilliant never new that thanks
Its what we are here for !
Really good sound advice.
Glad it was helpful!
David your videos are great! When I am shooting with both eyes open. what do I look at to know i am aiming correctly? The bead sight? If I shoot with 1 eye open I have a very smooth and straight view of the top of the barrel, but when I use both eyes open the barrel is crossed and its like I am seeing two barrels.
I used to shoot clays some years ago, when I first started I had just that problem. It was a friend of mine who had been shooting for years who corrected me, using the method you just demonstrated.
mate i wouldn't take his information because i was at hang mans stone and i am only 14 i hit a 65 and i haven't been shooting for a while and David was in front of me and he hit a 61 out of 100 he not as good as you think he his because its all edited .
@@elliotllangford1038 I don`t doubt what you say mate, all these channels are edited, so you have to use a bit of common, but as I say, it was a mate of mine who helped me with that method and he was a good shooter. Sadly he is no longer with us.
@@stephensmith4480 I’m sorry to hear that but I mean the person I’m the video
@@stephensmith4480 I’m sorry to here that I meant the person in the video
@@elliotllangford1038 Yeh, I know that mate, but thanks anyway, he was a real good guy.
Excellent thanks 9
I'm really excited to try this I'm going skeet shooting with buddy for the first time I understand the both eyes open and don't look at barrel or bead but I don't know wat to use as a lead reference just my eyes ???
Very interesting and informational thank you sir
My pleasure
Top advice as always! I'm a left eye dominant, but right handed shooter, any recommendations?
Kind regards Robert
i have WMD in the left eye and have been advised after shooting trap with both eyes open to try to shoot with bad eye closed. anything to improve my scores will help as a beginner shooting a Browning BT99.
By far, the best video on how to shoot a shotgun! Your clear and straightforward instructions on shooting the gun make you the best instructor of them all. Would you kindly let me know if there is a preferred shotgun length for trap shooting (the barrel length, that is)? Also, do you prefer a 12 gauge to a 20 gauge shotgun for trap shooting? Please let me know the pros and cons.
32" 12ga
I am 58 have been shooting since a kid but my grandfather never taught me properely. I have tried for a few years to shoot with 2 eyes ,just cant do it now
I need lessons. I tend shoot any straightish incomers and going away targets with one eye and anything crossing with both open but I very often change my mind half way through a shot. I probably also need that .410 you're giving away so my kids can beat me at skeet.
ok so i just started shooting full time as apposed to just adventure days,previously shooting ok 36/50/ 23/40 ?
shot left handed all my life but my right eye is the dominant one was advised to shut one eye?so switched hands with reasonable results only really shot 50 clays right handed probably missed as many as i hit so should i continue with right handed or go back to left and shoot with both eyes open?
are you using steel or lead shots and what chokes are you using ? thx
what size chokes do you usually use 1/4 and 1/2?
Damn! Dude can shoot
I really have a big issue with eyes. Everytime I open both eyes I tend to miss the target. My reflex is to close one and then match and shoot.
I've watched a few shooter close both right before squeezing off, and bust the targets every time. I was trained both open.
I’m right handed and left master eyed. I always shoot with left eye closed. Any tips ? I’ve tried left handed shooting I just can’t do it. Closing one eye isn’t great seems to work ok ish.
US Based subscriber here - I was taught to shoot "right handed / right eye dominate" as a lad, but have discovered later in life that I am left eye dominate. Are there a drills or adjustments I can make to improve my shooting without having to completely retrain myself to shoot left handed. I am not a competitive shooter, just enjoy a round of clays or a Quail/Dove shoot when I find time.
Thanks for the question if you give David a call on 01844 238 308 he will help you this this. Thanks TSC team.
If you dip your head into the gun... you probably need a raised rib. I shot clay for 5 years before I relieved that. Just a raised rib drastically improved my shooting.
I am right handed and left eye dominant but cannot close my left eye independently of my right eye. I recently fired a shot gun under instruction by an accredited shotgun coach who is a member of the BASC and whilst I thoroughly enjoyed the experience I did feel awkward shooting as a left handed person with my right eye closed. I tried right handed with a lens cover over my dominant left eye but accuracy was reduced would it have been better as a left handed shooter with both eyes open ?
Cheers Barry
Great to hear top advice Can't wait for the season to start ps would love to win the Yildiz 410 :)
Thanks.
Lots of time on this target to start with a low gun which is the ultimate test to see if a gun fits you.
Thank you sir, you helped me a lot improve the way my shots were.
David thank-you for the video! I've just bought my first shotgun, currently waiting on my license coming through!would you recommend that I start shooting with both eyes open from day one?
Yes I would recommend both eyes open from the start if you need any help you can give David a call on 01844 238 308 he will be happy top help. Thanks for you nice comment TSC team.
I have a bad left eye, should i just close it? I'm right handed
Hi all i am new to shooting my question is when i look down the barrel of the gun it is blurred so i have to close my left eye what should I do thanks
How do you invoke or produce the single single gun barrel in your eyesight perifery..
Both eyes open? Any advice for opposite eye dominated people?
Hi David! Great video as always. My question is, i am a cross eyed dominant, left handed but right eye dominant. Do you recommend to change my mounting to right?
Hello, yes I would
I shoot right handed. However My left eye is the dominant one. Can you suggest how I can fix this?
I have double vision so its not possible for me as with both eyes open id see two targets. Do y have any solution for me?
Here in American we teach our sooters to keep their eye on the target not the barrel of the gun.
Eyes over the top of the barrels, How does that work if the gun has a fixed high rib.
I am a left-handed shooter. Any tips for me? Thank you!
shooting with both eyes open ?? I'm right-handed but my master eye is my left eye so everyone says shooting should be done with one eye closed, your advise?
Hello, I hope you can answer this question as I am becoming very confused. I have had 10 lessons now shooting Clays. I have been told to open both eyes by one instructor and to close my left eye by another instructor. I’ve been told that my left eye is taking over. I’m looking down the barrel with my right eye, I can see the bead ok. Should I practice with bot open or one shut? Many thanks.
Hi Ricky thank you for your message and I am sorry to here your problems with shooting if you would like to give David a call on Tuesday on 01844 238 308 he will be happy to help you out. Thanks TSC team.
Are you beads on the rib covered (front & middle) or are they stacked?
Please give us a call on 01844 238 308.