Thanks for this, _Variety._ And thanks for doing this, _David._ I love deconstructing the process. As I watched the _"Write What You Know"_ section, it got me thinking how much I'm going to miss _Orlando Jones,_ and the input he had on *American Gods.* His monologues moved me so.
what concerns me the most is the the room he is in. What is up with all those rabbits? The rabbit door? I really admire how he is able to push aside his ego for the betterment of the project. I can totally relate. As a former musician and having to working creatively with other musicians i struggled with for many years with wanting to control the directions of songs to just trusting that through collaboration and incorporation of other ideas it becomes better. Sometimes the songs ended up worse imo. But i always grew and learned something each time.
The fact that this guy and Tom King is rumored to be working on the new DCU Lanterns show is exciting. All they probably need to add now to spearhead the writing team in Lanterns is oscar nominee Cord Jefferson 😂
This show was aired in probably one of the most competitive tv seasons ever and it still managed to shine. It's sad that a bunch of butthurt losers campaigned against it. It's not an easy show to dive into and they probably managed to keep a considerable number of people away from it.
@Omega0918 Man, you're all over this comment section railing on Lindelof and his shows. Maybe grow up? Move on? Also Lost didn't have a twist ending. It's fine to hate the ending and I understand that point of view greatly, but don't make up lies to make your point. Use the truth to make your arguments. And the truth has plenty to support your position. And Watchmen had pretty good ratings. What're you doing bro? This is remarkably childish. You're better than this. At least, I would hope that you are.
so funny that this video about story telling and yet the editors of this video had a difficult time orchestrating this however I want to thank you Damon for being able to recognize with great artistic power comes grave ethical responsibility and its to awareness like yours that as a filmmaker and black woman, have hope for the future shift in honest narrative and accurate historical reference. this show shattered and strengthened me in ways I'd never experienced. thank you for one of the most profound and complicated expressions of allyship and duty I've ever seen. this is how you optimize your fucking platform.
Excellent writer, excellent producer. But to no end does it bother me that people who don't write, or only have a surface level of knowledge on story, still bash him because A) they didn't like how lost ended because they don't understand mystery shows, and B) they didn't enjoy Prometheus due to their nostalgia level for Alien. This too feeds into, albeit subjective in nature, how we view movies and our critique of said movies. Star Wars being and Game of Thrones being the prime examples. It can all be squashed down to this: Pre-internet: I didn't like what happened in a movie/tv show. Post-internet: i didn't like what happened in movie/tv show therefore the writers are terrible and I'll make hit pieces on UA-cam so everyone can piggie back it.
Lol. Who edited this video? They showed the Jack death scene from LOST during Damon talking about first episodes, and then put a Watchmen title over a clip of The Leftovers. Do they even watch television?
@Omega0918 Hahaha all your comments aree just moaning about this show, btw I don't care what you think because structurally and overall it's one of the most well crafted shows of the past century
@Omega0918 I am a huge fan of the comic and Alan Moore in general, I absolutely despise the film and I haven't been able to accept a any other comic since I read Watchmen but this series captures the essence of the comic so perfectly and tells such an engaging story and I literally can't fault it in the slightest, I understand that a lot of people have their problems with doctor Manhattan but in my opinion I love his character arc and him becoming a symbol of love was definitely an interesting take, I can't be convinced otherwise and I'm sincerely sorry that you don't feel the same way but it's just amazing to me.
I hate this new breed of "writers" that are only educated in comic books but don't have a proper education in history or culture. The urge to virtue signal and prove that "i'm one of the good ones" as opposed to writing a great story period is pathetic.
Comic education can have it's benefits but it is not exactly academic objectivity and even academia has lost the mark on objective so that exacerbates the issue. I agree with you. Well educated individuals would be ideal for writing.
Presumably he comes from some lineage of influence. The fact that he went from Lost to producing a multi million dollar Star Trek movie heavily implies he's a made man.
Awful show. Obviously, Lindelof didn't want to make Watchmen. He wanted to make his own woke Superhero allegory about race and feminism. Fine. Then write your own show, but don't steal Alan Moore's title and characters' names to make your show relevant and get ratings. I thought the whole thing was unethical.
Alan Moore called superhero comics "white supremacist dreams of the master race". He would probably dislike the show but not for it's stance on the issue of race in America.
It's implied by using the word "woke". If you don't want to seem like having a problem with that mind your words. A lot of people criticized the show for being political and woke, most of those semed to dislike the portrayal of racial issues in America. If that's not you I'm sorry for thinking that but again it came down to how you wrote your post.
@@kristofferrosvall8709 , I was talking about the constant the disturbing use of Mary Sues, and the fact that they shoehorned race in there without making it a part of the plot. For example, why did Lady Trieu need the White supremacists? Why couldn't she have done it herself? I await your answer.
@@kristofferrosvall8709 , and how could Dr. Manhattan ever be a romantic character while Veidt is a joke? And what's with Silk Spectre, who wanted a normal life, being FBI?
It was one of the best shows of 2019 and universally critically praised. He did nothing but show the utmost respect to the original graphic novel, and his approach totally suited that world. You're an idiot because the creator would bash and shun any attempt to adapt his works, no matter how good they are. That's just how he is. Hes never even seen the watchmen show, nor will he ever see it. True fans of watchmen who aren't dumb shitbags absolutely commend the show, it's a fantastic take on that world and acts a fantastic sequel to the GN. Now fuck off.
Dave Gibbons read the pilot script and said "I found Damon’s approach to be really refreshing and exciting and unexpected". Moore has distanced himself from any adaptations of his works regardless of quality for a long time. So your statement about the original creators is 50% incorrect, 50% irrelevant.
What Disney did with Star Wars is the exact opposite of this: Disney had no original vision to continue the saga and ended up creating a mess patched with superficial fan service, Lindelof's team took the key themes of Watchmen, dug deeper into them and created an original and engaging new vision based on the same world and characters. But well, you may be one of those guys that missed completly the intentions and themes of the original Watchmen and think Rorschach is cool and a true hero and stuff like that. (And come on, Moore is a genius and all but he hates to the guts everything).
@@hugofazap8768 I'm a big fan of Damon Lindelof. Lost is my favorite tv show of all time-and leftovers is one of my favorite tv shows. >However, I'm having trouble getting into the Watchmen series. It seems like the show is expecting you to have read the comic book before watching the show. That limits the audience. Some people-like me actually want to watch the show and understand the plot. I feel like that's a wasted opportunity. >Lindelof does this in all of his shows. His pilot episodes are just very vague to the point of annoyance. But this Watchmen takes it to a whole new level.
Thanks for this, _Variety._ And thanks for doing this, _David._ I love deconstructing the process.
As I watched the _"Write What You Know"_ section, it got me thinking how much I'm going to miss _Orlando Jones,_ and the input he had on *American Gods.* His monologues moved me so.
@Omega0918 Huh?
This is AI
@a_h_threehundredandthirtee992 *AI?* What are you referring to? 😕
@@CaesiusX Lmao, okay not AI
or is it?...
what concerns me the most is the the room he is in. What is up with all those rabbits? The rabbit door? I really admire how he is able to push aside his ego for the betterment of the project. I can totally relate. As a former musician and having to working creatively with other musicians i struggled with for many years with wanting to control the directions of songs to just trusting that through collaboration and incorporation of other ideas it becomes better. Sometimes the songs ended up worse imo. But i always grew and learned something each time.
The fact that this guy and Tom King is rumored to be working on the new DCU Lanterns show is exciting. All they probably need to add now to spearhead the writing team in Lanterns is oscar nominee Cord Jefferson 😂
I had not seen that
This show was aired in probably one of the most competitive tv seasons ever and it still managed to shine. It's sad that a bunch of butthurt losers campaigned against it. It's not an easy show to dive into and they probably managed to keep a considerable number of people away from it.
@Omega0918 I see you're a man of taste that only watches top of the box office media like the lion king, toy story and frozen 2.
@Omega0918 AAh so you're saying you didn't like how Lost ended? Sorry mate it's hard to keep up with your reasoning.
@Omega0918 Wasn’t it the highest rated new show on HBO in a long time?
@Omega0918 deadline.com/2019/10/watchmen-ratings-regina-king-damon-lindelof-hbo-digital-1202765310/
@Omega0918 Man, you're all over this comment section railing on Lindelof and his shows. Maybe grow up? Move on?
Also Lost didn't have a twist ending. It's fine to hate the ending and I understand that point of view greatly, but don't make up lies to make your point. Use the truth to make your arguments. And the truth has plenty to support your position.
And Watchmen had pretty good ratings.
What're you doing bro? This is remarkably childish. You're better than this. At least, I would hope that you are.
Thank you 🙏🏾
Omega0918 generosity
thank you Variety.
Article just came to this guy wants to direct the next superman movie
so funny that this video about story telling and yet the editors of this video had a difficult time orchestrating this however I want to thank you Damon for being able to recognize with great artistic power comes grave ethical responsibility and its to awareness like yours that as a filmmaker and black woman, have hope for the future shift in honest narrative and accurate historical reference. this show shattered and strengthened me in ways I'd never experienced. thank you for one of the most profound and complicated expressions of allyship and duty I've ever seen. this is how you optimize your fucking platform.
One of my favorite writers of all time.
He definitely doesn't always write what he knows. I just finished the leftovers. I'd love to talk Theology with Damon.
C'mon now, Damon. You know damn well that Lost 1x04 was not a "Sun and Jin episode". It's infamously one of the best of the show. :P
He doesn't count like us.
For him, Walkabout WAS the fourth episode of the show, after the pilot only counted for one.
@@flaviens2621 he called it wither a sun & jin or charlie episode. Either way it’s wrong.
Writing tips - generosity
This is all fantastic advice, but I'm preoccupied by a desperate desire to understand the purpose and meaning of this bunny room...
Your answer: 8
Watchmen is a masterpiece of storytelling. Lindelof is a genius writer. I think he's been honing his craft and in Watchmen I see him at his best.
Lindy!!!!! ♥️
"Let go"
Excellent writer, excellent producer. But to no end does it bother me that people who don't write, or only have a surface level of knowledge on story, still bash him because A) they didn't like how lost ended because they don't understand mystery shows, and B) they didn't enjoy Prometheus due to their nostalgia level for Alien.
This too feeds into, albeit subjective in nature, how we view movies and our critique of said movies. Star Wars being and Game of Thrones being the prime examples. It can all be squashed down to this:
Pre-internet: I didn't like what happened in a movie/tv show.
Post-internet: i didn't like what happened in movie/tv show therefore the writers are terrible and I'll make hit pieces on UA-cam so everyone can piggie back it.
Imagine not knowing story SO much that you confuse not enjoying the story/subject matter over writing. You helped further my point 🤣
Lol. Who edited this video? They showed the Jack death scene from LOST during Damon talking about first episodes, and then put a Watchmen title over a clip of The Leftovers. Do they even watch television?
PLEASE COME BACK TO WATCHMEN AND GIVE US A 2ND SEASON!!!
@Omega0918 Hahaha all your comments aree just moaning about this show, btw I don't care what you think because structurally and overall it's one of the most well crafted shows of the past century
@Omega0918 I am a huge fan of the comic and Alan Moore in general, I absolutely despise the film and I haven't been able to accept a any other comic since I read Watchmen but this series captures the essence of the comic so perfectly and tells such an engaging story and I literally can't fault it in the slightest, I understand that a lot of people have their problems with doctor Manhattan but in my opinion I love his character arc and him becoming a symbol of love was definitely an interesting take, I can't be convinced otherwise and I'm sincerely sorry that you don't feel the same way but it's just amazing to me.
@Omega0918 what do you mean the show bombed
Omega0918 yeah you might want to check up on your facts dude. The show most certainly did not bomb. You must live under a rock like patrick
I hate this new breed of "writers" that are only educated in comic books but don't have a proper education in history or culture. The urge to virtue signal and prove that "i'm one of the good ones" as opposed to writing a great story period is pathetic.
I can assure that no such writer you claim to exist, actually exists. They want to get paid to write a story. That's it.
Comic education can have it's benefits but it is not exactly academic objectivity and even academia has lost the mark on objective so that exacerbates the issue. I agree with you. Well educated individuals would be ideal for writing.
@@TheGeorgeD13is he referring to Tom King or Geoff Johns maybe?
Lindelorf is a hack. He ruins everything he touches. How he got to be in the position to make material based on the work of real writers is beyond me.
Actually quite the opposite.
@@_kaushin1540 citation required
Presumably he comes from some lineage of influence. The fact that he went from Lost to producing a multi million dollar Star Trek movie heavily implies he's a made man.
Hack
Awful show. Obviously, Lindelof didn't want to make Watchmen. He wanted to make his own woke Superhero allegory about race and feminism. Fine. Then write your own show, but don't steal Alan Moore's title and characters' names to make your show relevant and get ratings. I thought the whole thing was unethical.
Alan Moore called superhero comics "white supremacist dreams of the master race". He would probably dislike the show but not for it's stance on the issue of race in America.
@@kristofferrosvall8709 , did I say I disliked the show because it's stance on race, lunatic?
It's implied by using the word "woke". If you don't want to seem like having a problem with that mind your words. A lot of people criticized the show for being political and woke, most of those semed to dislike the portrayal of racial issues in America. If that's not you I'm sorry for thinking that but again it came down to how you wrote your post.
@@kristofferrosvall8709 , I was talking about the constant the disturbing use of Mary Sues, and the fact that they shoehorned race in there without making it a part of the plot. For example, why did Lady Trieu need the White supremacists? Why couldn't she have done it herself? I await your answer.
@@kristofferrosvall8709 , and how could Dr. Manhattan ever be a romantic character while Veidt is a joke? And what's with Silk Spectre, who wanted a normal life, being FBI?
Watchmen was terrible, this guy did to watchmen what disney did to star wars. even the original creators want nothing to do with the show.
It was one of the best shows of 2019 and universally critically praised. He did nothing but show the utmost respect to the original graphic novel, and his approach totally suited that world. You're an idiot because the creator would bash and shun any attempt to adapt his works, no matter how good they are. That's just how he is. Hes never even seen the watchmen show, nor will he ever see it.
True fans of watchmen who aren't dumb shitbags absolutely commend the show, it's a fantastic take on that world and acts a fantastic sequel to the GN. Now fuck off.
Dave Gibbons read the pilot script and said "I found Damon’s approach to be really refreshing and exciting and unexpected". Moore has distanced himself from any adaptations of his works regardless of quality for a long time. So your statement about the original creators is 50% incorrect, 50% irrelevant.
Nope, not buying that you actually watched the series. Not at all. Maybe someone else does though.
What Disney did with Star Wars is the exact opposite of this: Disney had no original vision to continue the saga and ended up creating a mess patched with superficial fan service, Lindelof's team took the key themes of Watchmen, dug deeper into them and created an original and engaging new vision based on the same world and characters. But well, you may be one of those guys that missed completly the intentions and themes of the original Watchmen and think Rorschach is cool and a true hero and stuff like that. (And come on, Moore is a genius and all but he hates to the guts everything).
@@hugofazap8768 I'm a big fan of Damon Lindelof. Lost is my favorite tv show of all time-and leftovers is one of my favorite tv shows.
>However, I'm having trouble getting into the Watchmen series. It seems like the show is expecting you to have read the comic book before watching the show. That limits the audience. Some people-like me actually want to watch the show and understand the plot. I feel like that's a wasted opportunity.
>Lindelof does this in all of his shows. His pilot episodes are just very vague to the point of annoyance. But this Watchmen takes it to a whole new level.