Schwalbe SUPER Tires: Magic Mary, Big Betty, Hans Dampf, & Nobby Nic V2
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
- Schwalbe has just announced the renaming of their tire casings, to the more simplified Super line:
Super DH - Super Gravity - Super Trail - Super Ground - Super Race. Added to their Addix rubber compounds, and we've got a full fledged line of tires ready to take on anything you can ride them through.
For this video we take a look at our four favorite from the line up: the Magic Mary, the brand new Big Betty, Hans Dampf, and the re-designed Nobby Nic V2
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#mtb #schwalbe #magicmary #bigbetty #hansdampf #nobbynic - Авто та транспорт
What tire combo is your favorite? - Dan at Fanatik
Magic on the front2.6 and a 2.6 Hans dampf on the back:)
Is there any new xc schwalbe tires?
@@qurniawanilhansyah8079 Yea! The Super Race is the sidewall construction designed for XC race. The tires made in that manner are
Rocket Ron
Racing Ralph
Racing Ray
Thunder Burt
We don't stock those specific tires, but you can learn more about them at the link below, and we can always order them for you if you'd like. Just shoot us an email at sales@fanatikbike.com
www.schwalbetires.com/decadeofsuper/
im trying the magic mary and nobby nic front rear respectively, but kinda thinking if i should have went to 2.6 magic mary or 2.4 is okay, santa cruz hightower lt cc bike. galbraith trail usually riding
I just bought 2 Nobby Nic Super Trail 27.5 x 2.6 ADDIX Soft. I'm currently running an old set of Schwalbe Hurricane 27.5 x 2.0 So they're a skinny tyre good for the bike trails which i mainly ride on. But i want to start doing more gravel and mild MTB trails so i think the Nobby Nics will work well....certainly better than my Hurricanes! They'll be slower on the sealed road though, will just have to pedal a little harder! I will also be converting to tubeless. I've only ever run tubed tyres so i'm excited to feel the difference. I run DT Swiss rims so they're tubeless ready. Love your channel mate! Keep up the excellent work. Cheers from Australia.
Great video. Thank you. I decided to go with the Big Betty 2.4 soft on the rear and Magic Mary 2.6 ultra soft on the front.
I love the 2.4 Supertrail Soft Magic Mary on the front and the 2.35 Super Trail Soft Nobbie Nic on the rear. Works great on my trail bike. Rolls fast, too
I'm going for the same front tyre but a Hans Dampf ST Soft on the back - both in bronze wall finish :)
Magic Mary up front, Big Betty down back .. got it, no question .. thanks alot dude
Just bought my first pair of Shwalbe tire Racing Ray/Ralph for my Big Al Really nice smooth tire for my commutes
I love my Big Al!
Perfect breakdown, thanks. I finally understood thier previous naming... Hopefully they don't change naming again in a couple years ha.
Perfect video and usefull informtation guys. Exactly what I was looking for. Thx.
Thanks Jan, glad you found it helpful.
- Dan at Fanatik
I have Dirty Dan 2.35 Verstar DH in front and Maxxis HR 2 DD rear and also have Muddy Mary 2.5 Trailstar DH in front and Maxxis DHR2 EXO 2.4 , I had Magic's also, great tires! Thanks for the review.
Nice video! thanks
gotta love the 'hons domf'
Plenty of grip and rolling....been using Magic Mary front, Nobby Nic back...works super well
Thinking of running the same setup. Are you riding a hardtail with these tyres?
@@socas_nic I do ride a ht, but I use lighter tires on it...for the fun factor. It really depends on how much grip is needed .
@@felixduprey I might get NN with super trail casing for the rear and Nn super ground casing for the front then...
I wanna get MM and BB for my Hardtail. Is that a good choice for 2/3 medium length tours and 1/3 trails n stuff?
@@hannes6114 late reply, but I think it’s too much rolling resistance for what you describe. I ride Nobby Nic 2.35 front and rear on my lighter hardtail for tours and intermediate trails, and I’m happy with both the efficiency and the confidence they give me on a bit of gnarly terrain. Only if you’re ridding mostly rugged or muddy terrain I would go for MM/BB combo
I'm currently running the Rocket Ron's with tubolitos on my Trek Roscoe
On my new torrent HT I have the Hans Dampf factory fitted and they are sick!
Been rocking a Magic Mary out front for a while now. Side nobs are starting to go but when I replace thinking of that Magic Mary - Hans combo. Thanks for the comparison info.
Cheers.
Love how you explain things, great video!
Can you elaborate on the difference between Hans Dampf and Nobby Nic? They weigh almost exactly the same at 29x2.35, Supertrail Soft.
Is one faster rolling? Is one better at clearing mud? Is one better at gripping / side knobs?
I'm really having trouble finding this info online...
Thanks for the positive feedback, glad you found it helpful.
Generally, the Hans Dampf is a more aggressive tire. The lugs are a little taller and widely spaced to bite into the ground more. That does make it roll more slowly than the Nobby Nic, but it also clears mud a little more easily.
Under most circumstances, folks will run a wider and more aggressive tire in the front, with a faster rolling tire in the back. The idea there is that you steer with your front tire, whereas the back is sort of just along for the ride.
Similar idea with braking; as long as you are using both brakes and not just skidding your back wheel, the front tire is doing most of the stopping. That's because braking on your back wheel actively pushes your front wheel into the ground (think of trying to do a wheelie and hitting your back brake - it immediately sends your front wheel into the ground).
All of which is to say that if you like the look of both you could try the Hans Dampf in front and Nobby Nic in back. Or really whatever you want - it's hard to quantify this stuff without just trying it!
Hopefully that helps and doesn't just add to the confusion!
Dan at Fanatik
Great video explained really well so as not to confuse people like me!! I currently have nobby nics on my haibike and I keep coming off!! Mostly on slippery mud and the dreaded chalk as we have rather a lot of this on the southdowns!! I just don't find the grippy or planted enough so I'm thinking that magic Mary's would be better for me. But I like what you said about the big Betty on the rear too!! What are your opinions on this please? Just want to enjoy autumn and winter riding without ending up on the ground. 😎😎
Hi Sarah!
I wasn't familiar with the South Downs, but it looks like a gorgeous area!! Now, I don't know about riding on chalk hills, but I do know about slippery mud. There's always a full on mudspike like the Dirty Dan, but those are a bit much for anything other than super muddy conditions, so I do think something a little less spikey would suit well and be much more fun the rest of the time.
I've run Magic Marys on both front and rear of my downhill bike, but that was before the Big Betty was out. It does work well, but slow rolling. Less of a concern on a downhill bike where you don't have to pedal uphill much. Depending on how big a part of your day that is, I'm thinking a Magic Mary up front, and either a Big Betty or a Hans Dampf (a little faster than Big Betty) on the back, depending on what your average ride consists of.
Hope that helps!
Dan at Fanatik
Normally running magic mary purple dh on front n a maxxis minion dhr2 on the back but gonna try out big Betty next time
Also in winter im on the dirty dan up front since it gets pretty muddy here
Cheers to that, a rad combo!
Fanatik do you guys find you can run really low pressure with the super gravity casings? I've been running Magic Mary's front and rear ultrasoft / soft and around 18 psi front and 20 rear. No vague feeling, just amazing traction and control. I notice if i run "normal" pressures they feel a bit wooden.
Yep, that's one of the great parts about running Super Gravity tires!
would you recommend the nobby nic in the back and the hans dampf in the front for an all mountain setup? climbing but also trails going down?
I have a full season on the nobby nics speed/grip front and rear riding New England loam rock and roots. this tire is not good in swamp mud found it hard to keep a straight line in loose gravel. Other than that coming from maxxis high rollers II I really like the feel of these tires but may end up with something that has a better bite in the loose stuff up front.
He: you dont need a big tire in the rear but in the front
Me who has a Big Betty 27.5x2.8 in the rear and an Magic Mary 27.5x2.4 in the front: i like your funny words magic man
The usual train of thought is that your front wheel is the one that does the majority of the braking, and is the one that initiates a turn, so that's where it's best to have a bigger tire with more traction. The rear one is kind of just along for the ride. At the end of the day, however, being comfortable with your set up is the most important part!
Cheers - Dan at Fanatik
The Nobby Nic is now 3rd version.
I'm trying up front 29x2.5 Magic Mary Super Trail Casing/Addix Soft at 23psi & on the rear 29x2.4 Big Betty Super Gravity Casing/Addix Soft at 24psi. How does that sound for we and muddy UK bike parks?
I don't like how you showed the tire rolled up instead of on a rim. But good info.
And is there a chart comparing tires from different brands? So I can see what is the Schlawbe version of a Maxxis Assegai?
Hi net poser,
Thanks for the feedback, I'll get them mounted up in the next tire video.
Outside of less specialized brands (😉), most tire manufacturers don't make "versions" of each others tires. There is no Schwalbe version of a Maxxis Assegai. The most similar application, however, would likely be the Hans Dampf or possibly the Magic Mary, although the latter is more of a modified mud spike than the Assegai. A phenomenal tire though, I use it frequently.
Cheers - Dan at Fanatik
Which combo would you recommend for NorCal riding on an EVIL Following? I currently have DHF and DHR and they have enough grip but I wonder if I can trade some of that grip for fast rolling and more efficient climbing. Conditions range from dry, loose, and rocky, to moist forest soil covered in detritus, often on the same ride, with root and rock gardens. I think Nobby Nic front and rear can handle it but I'm curious how a Hans Dampf in the front would work, it looks like it doesn't shed debris and rocks as well
I was actually running Nobby Nics on my Following, front and rear (as seen here: ua-cam.com/video/XEiRPRY89PQ/v-deo.html) and I loved em. The Hans Dampf is a little knobbier, but I've had no problems with the Nobby Nics. I eventually swapped them for a Specialized Butcher in the front and Eliminator in the back (as seen here: ua-cam.com/video/nJZpzhCFcWU/v-deo.html), which also worked great and were even a little lighter, but because of that I had to air them up more. My preference was the Nobby Nics (if I'm being really nitpicky).
You can find em all here: www.fanatikbike.com/collections/components/tires?page=1&rb_snize_facet5=29%22|29%22+Plus
Cheers!
Dan at Fanatik
What would you say is the best for hardpack? I recently moved from a relatively wet climate where I had a Magic Mary/Big Betty combo and unfortunately I’m slipping out quite a bit. Now being in Colorado I ride quite dry/rocky terrain
I like these options. I lived in Fort Collins for a long time.
Maxxis:
Rear - www.fanatikbike.com/products/maxxis-aggressor-wt-29-x-2-5-tire?variant=486761758723
Front - www.fanatikbike.com/products/maxxis-minion-dhf-29-x-2-3-tire
Schwalbe:
Front and rear - www.fanatikbike.com/products/nobby-nic-29-x-2-40-super-tire
- Dan P.
i have changed my racing ralf and racing ray for magic mary (front) and hams damf (rear) for the winter months, is it a good combo?
It is!
Just in Time =)
Iam searching for a good set of Tires and jup these 2 Pair on my list.
But also is the Maxxis Assegai with DHR II and iam running quite a long time on Maxxis because ive seen some things at schwalbe Tires wich i dont like, like the Center nobs a not perfect fit they set front rear different or even the height is diffent. For me a absolute no-go when iam spending about 60€ the tire =/ What would you Choose?
I think the Magic Marry isnt for me but the other ones are looking fine. Also does the Maxxis Tires....
I agree, the Assegai/DHRII compo is phenomenal. I run Schwalbes on my DH bike though, and have loved the Magic Mary/Hans Dampf combo for dryer months. I think I'll have to get a Big Betty on the back and see how I like it though!
Cheers,
Dan at Fanatik
@@FanatikBikeCo Well nice =)
I searched further way and found Onza. I like to go Onza with Front Purcupine 2.6 and Skintone and rear Ibex 2.4 Skintone but i cant find a single Ibex Tire to buy here in Germany =( so booth like to go both Purcupine and the sized i say.
Dude... first you don't need 60€ per tire a Schwalbe combo costs 50€ both, you are getting ripped by your favourite brand. Second you need grip up front and and rolling back, that's why your OCD self doesn't understand why knobs are different. Just look at your fingers and toes and your mind will explode.
In need of some new grip. I want a balance of plenty of grip and rolling speed. Does it exist???
JAMES ROBERT MTB minion dhr2 or big Betty or nobby nic
I started out few yrs ago to mtb after 5 yrs triathlon . So I went light and started with Rocket Ron but then went to NobbyN fr and racing Ralph rear . So a lot of my terrain needs better grip and so went fr and rear nobby Nick .I did a race like that and felt more stable for a course I was not familiar with.
This year no races but went wider and to the Hans Dampf 2.35 rear and 2.6 fr .
The tires are a bit heavier but larger diameter and that is great.
So now I am more confident and a little faster than the year before. I corner on loose and brake well and can go lower pressures. All in all I am happiest with the Hans Damph and put in personal best times everywhere.
@@JiJi-os6eh Currently using a Minion. Not a big fan
Nobby soft(orange front nobby speedgrip(blue) rear is pretty rad.
I agree with k w, the Nobby Nic is an awesome all around tire. Running a softer compound up front gets you better cornering grip, while leaving a longer lasting compound on the back!
Cheers,
Dan at Fanatik
sick vid bois, its actually pronounced "sh - vul - bih", not, "sh - wal - bee", if that makes any sense. A schwalbe is a bird, more specifically a swallow
Ha! I'd always wondered! Obviously I hadn't tried to figure it out very hard, which in retrospect seems silly.
Thank you for the insight, and thanks for the positive feedback!!
- Dan at Fanatik
Your comment remids me of the way the "Sea-man" says "Swallow, come!" in South Park. Shwahlbeh or Swallbee same thing, don't get into such things makes you look narrow-minded, there are many languages & accents in the world, it's beutiful.
im german, but im going to call them shwallbee here as well just to see how people react 😄
hi, how are these magic mary front and big betty rear combo doing in uphill?
It's a pretty knobby combo, and definitely slower rolling than other options. But if it's at all wet out, they work wonders on the downhills.
Im riding rn the magic mary super downhill on the front and the big betty super gravity on the back
Why?? It should be the opposite..
@@th_js no? Big betty is a backtire?
@@0lioderso Oh yeah yeah, but I'm talking about the casing. Super Downhill is more robust than SuperGravity.
@@th_js nah i only do it to get that extra grip on the front
@@0lioderso Why'd you think that the thicker casing provides more grip?
Picking up a Transition Spire on Friday and notice they come stock with Super Trail Magic Mary and Big Betty. I live in New Mexico where it’s chunky and dry and usually run double downs or kryptotal enduro casing. Are these a decent alternative that will hold up? Thanks you all are the best and I don’t mind if you tell me to order new tires from you!
Hey Johnnie, that's exciting, congratulations! The Super Trail casing is pretty dang beefy and will probably hold up fine (how much do you weigh?). Compared to the Maxxis line up I'd say it's in between Double Down and Exo+.
Those tires are both great, aggressive tires, but they are pretty slow rolling. Designed to really dig into the ground. In New Mexico, where you're riding hard-pack, I might suggest some faster rolling tires that don't have as deep of lugs. In the Schwalbe line, if you want to try that brand, I'd suggest looking at the Hans Dampf and the Nobby Nic (maybe the former in the front and the latter in the back). Alternately, just going with your tried and true tires!
Let us know if you have any other Qs, or if we can help with anything else. If you want quicker answers, Live Chat on our webiste has people on it during our work hours, and we get back to emails really quickly too (sales @ fanatikbike.com).
Cheers!
Dan P.
@@FanatikBikeCo Hey Dan thanks for the quick response! I weigh 190 with riding gear on. I don’t usually get punctures, but I am always on the cautious side (psi and casing) so I don’t ding or crack a rim. I think you’ve convinced me to give the tires a go as I’m fine with more aggressive knobs because once the snow melts I will be riding a lot more high elevation/forest areas with shuttles, etc. I’m a little worried with the rear not being a beefier casing just because that is an option, but I will be running a tannus insert.
@@birdsandtrees Hey Johnnie. I *suspect* that you'll enjoy them and not encounter any issues, especially with Tannus on the back. As far as the actual tread pattern, it's one of my favorite combos (although that is on pretty different terrain, I'd be curious to hear what you think).
Cheers,
Dan P.
why combo tire and compound would you guys run on wreckoning type bike in socal trails (harder, rockier vs the nw)
I'm thinking Super Trail casing in the front and Super Gravity in the back.
I'm thinking Mary in the front and Hans Dampf in the back? Or if you want faster rolling than that, Dampf front and rear.
Cheers,
Dan at Fanatik
I've been running Hans Dampf up front, Nobby Nic in the back on my SC Bronson in So Cal. They are faster rolling than DHR/DHF and are more predictable when they start to slide too.
@@Sonic_fast22 hmm, i disagree with that one. but thanks for letting me know.
I wish they made magic Mary 29x2.6 super soft
Do you think magic Mary 2.5 up front and big Betty 2.4 in the rear?
I think that's a rad combo, specially this time of year. - Dan at Fanatik
I have a Raleigh M-800 with 26" wheels. Can you please tell me if the Magic Mary and Big Betty combo will fit? Will the width of them fit a Raleigh M-800 in 26" wheels?
Hey Daryl, you could run a 26x2.4 on those wheels! We don't carry them in 26, but you can order them directly from Schwalbe!
www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/off-road_tires/magic_mary_447
www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/off-road_tires/big_betty_608
@@FanatikBikeCo Thanks a lot for your widom.
Smoking n screaming death metalmuch?🤣... kiddin... thank you for the info brotha 👍 running m.m. addix 2.6 f. Specialized ground control gripton r ... rippn good... magic mary addix soft is beast.
Gawlee, I know, I know, ain't much to do about it at this point. Nobody round here got time for voice lessons.
Cheers!
Dan at Fanatik
Seem to havd a hard time finding most of these online especially with choice of size and compound.
This dude sounds like he started riding Schwalbe 2 years ago. And "breaking, breaking, breaking... everything is for breaking" :D
Great that Schwalbe survived those degenerated bots lying about knobs falling off, such a miserable way to compete. Morons believed such blatant lies.
With this new and better casing I'm a happy customer.
Best tires on Earth.
Keep 26 alive!
I like to be able to slow down when I need to ;)
I started to check out Schwalbe tires in 2014 when I moved away from Colorado, where the sidewalls on Schwalbe's tires at that time just didn't hold up well. I started to enjoy them a few years later, when the knobs stopped falling off at a moments notice!! Currently, Magic Mary is my go to tire on my downhill bike, and trail bike in the winter.
Cheers - Dan at Fanatik
@@FanatikBikeCo The sidewalls thing I understand. The knobs falling off is a lie man, everybody knows about it today. The bots of another bigg tire company went dirty and used that to discredit Schwalbe, Kenda (KendaSUPRIZE, apparently they used to brake grip all of the sudden, so people hurt themselves if driving Nevegal, total BS) and another competing companies, and succeded. We all know who they are. I have never seen a fallen knob out of normal ride, only seen one dude's Nevegals break traction for no reason. Bots are controlling the world, look how many people believe thei lies.
@@FanatikBikeCo Most changes on Nick are not for breaking, they are changing the tire to be more rear specific, so RollRes and thrust forward related. Still not there in my opinion. Soft MagicMary is the best MTB tire overall, I trust/put my life on it. Can't wait for the SuperGround 26er.
Thanks for the reply human of similar interest.
@@FirefighterBobby What combo do you run on your 26-er? I am shopping for my 26-ers now.
@@daryldaryl887 It depends, in sommer, around the city and on roads I like to have Rock Razors in the back, specially on the Hardtail. They don't make them any more, but I have 5-6 of them stashed. I have NobbyN & HansD in speedgrip too. If I use DH Marries or lighter ones (up front) depends on the weather and ground conditions, but they work. Crazy Bobs for playing. Nothing special, just standard stuff. What about you?
Im planning to have 2.40 nobby nic and 2.35 hans dampf rear for trails. How is it?
Yeah thats a great Trail bike set up! If you wanted a more Enduro set up a Magic Mary/Big Betty would be the combo.
Why does no one run magic Mary's and big Betty's now? Just curious as came on my new emtb they were very popular now no one seems to like them for some reason they think there a cheap brand now
F/R:HD/NN
anygood?
On my hardtail, for normal trails, Hans Dampf (orange) front, Nobby Nic ( blue ) rear. For XC either Nobby Nic ( blue ) front, Rocket Ron ( red ) rear, or Racing Ray ( blue ) front, Racing Ralph ( red ) rear. Reall boggy stuff Magic Mary front, Big Betty Rear both orange.
How is the with of the tires compared to Maxxis DHR2 or DHF? I would like to get the magic Mary's (or MM/bigBetty combo) on my Canyon Spectral but i am dubbing between 2.6 front and 2.4 back, or both 2.4 wide. (Thinking of a Super Gravity in the rear and a Super Trail up front, for trail/enduro and Bikepark stuf)
2nd question:
What are the pro's and con's of a wider (front) tire?
They might look a little different, but nothing so drastic that you'll be able to feel a difference regarding the width.
As far as your second question, a wider front tire can offer a little more traction in cornering, where your front tire is doing the steering. The con is that they weigh more.
Cheers,
Dan at Fanatik
Hard to buy any of them anywhere, just out of stock recently.
We've got most of them: www.fanatikbike.com/collections/components/tires?sort=created-descending&_=pf&pf_v_brand=Schwalbe
@@FanatikBikeCo Wow nice but do you ship and deliver to Hong Kong?
@@sonnyfung5135 Ahh. I believe we do, but shipping costs and delivery time may make it not worth while.
@@FanatikBikeCo How long does it take? And why is it so hard to find Chris King products with ceramic bearings? They seem to be rare though. Thanks a lot.
THE HURRICANE ? THANKS
Keep rockshox and fox together. To stop em fighting. Good job
Doesnt competition give us better product year after year?
@@betweenthepines4000 but they're brand new you don't want em to get damaged
Nobby nic speedgrip rear 27.5x2.8 and hans dampf soft upfront 27.5 x2.6. She flicks and grips😂
Magic Mary or Minion DHF???
Magic Mary is better in wet conditions. I'd pick a DHF if I lived in drier areas.
These all tires was tubeless
I love Schwalbe but gat dayyum is there a big weight penalty with these new models. The super trials are heavy a shit. 2.4 lbs for a nobby nic for thier narrowest offering! For comparison the old Nic was 1.9 lbs. That's a half pound difference for the same tire. I think they missed the boat. It's really hard to build a sub 30lb 29er with 5 pounds of rubber without dropping 9-10k.
I remember their ig account talking about the thicker walls are meant to prevent snake bites/pinch flats. Like they wanted to make tire inserts not needed for these
It's tough to make all the market segments happy. When I lived in Colorado we'd take the Schwalbe's that came on bikes off and discount them massively. No one would run them, because the casings would tear instantly in those sharp rocks. Out here that wasn't an issue, but I've had
several people people that wouldn't run anything lighter than super gravity because the tires would squirm and fold under hard cornering.
Gotta pick your battles, I suppose.
They do make the Nobby Nic in 2.25 in Super Ground.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Dan at Fanatik
@@FanatikBikeCo Yeah man, I feel that. I have little doubt that the new tires outperform the old. It's all just personal opinion but it would have been nice if they looked at the competition in the trail segment and found a way to make a more capable tire and kept the weight competitive with other companies. These weigh as much as the more gravity focused tires from other brands. I would expect a weight penalty with a tire more capable but these seem out of bounds. I'm not a giant weight weenie but I'm consistently doing 3000ft+ of climbing when I ride and while I can do it no matter the weight of the bike it's about how I feel after and the next day when I need to perform in other aspects of life.
@@ArmorOfZeus I feel ya. They'll definitely miss out on some of the market with that decision. Fortunately there are a heck of a lot of other nice tires out there!
@@FanatikBikeCo Agreed! I wish you guys carried Continental and Michelin! The Der Baron is one of the best tires I've ever ridden.
Na pláštích Hans Dampf jsem po půl roce užívání objevil spoustu praskli. Desén drží výborně a zbytek je úplně zničený. Velké zklamání u toho to produktu :-(
.... coughs in corona.
Its called Schwalbe and Not Schwalbii, damm fools
yeah the e has to sound more like eh
how can I listen to this video but like, without his voice
We're working on getting closed captions in future videos, that'll help. I'm sorry you find my voice disquieting!
Dan at Fanatik
@@FanatikBikeCo Don't mind that jerk
@@th_js I don't ;)
How about you just go away. What a low class comment.
That AWFUL repetitive music! 😖
Nobby nic speedgrip rear 27.5x2.8 and hans dampf soft upfront 27.5 x2.6. She flicks and grips😂