Ep. 144: Bisbee, Arizona | RV travel camping 4x4
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Less than 8 miles from the Mexican border, Bisbee was founded as a copper, gold, and silver mining town in 1880, and named in honor of Judge DeWitt Bisbee, one of the financial backers of the adjacent Copper Queen Mine. Because its plan was laid out to a pedestrian scale before the automobile, Old Bisbee is compact and walkable, and not a place to drive your RV. The town's hilly terrain is exemplified by the old four-story high school; each floor has a ground-level entrance.
Mining in the Mule Mountains proved quite successful; in the early 20th century the population of Bisbee soared to more than 9,000. In 1917, open-pit mining was successfully introduced to meet the copper demand during World War I. Mining operations in Bisbee ceased in 1975, and heritage tourism replaced mining as Bisbee's economic driver. Artist Stephen Hutchison and his wife Marcia purchased the Copper Queen Hotel,as well as other buildings in the downtown area. Actor John Wayne was a frequent visitor to Bisbee and the Copper Queen. He befriended Hutchison and eventually partnered with developer Ed Smart in his real estate ventures. Bisbee became a haven for artists and hippies fleeing the larger cities of Arizona and California. Today, the historic city of Bisbee is known as "Old Bisbee" and is home to a thriving downtown cultural scene.
For our visit to Bisbee, we're still boondocking away from everyone else along Forest Road 687 within Arizona's Coronado National Forest, at the foot of the Dragoon Mountains just north of Tombstone. If you'd like more information about camping along Forest Road 687, watch our previous episode number 143 on Tombstone • Ep. 143: Tombstone | A... .
Filmed: March 21-24, 2020
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If you are visiting Bisbee you need to go into their public library. It's like traveling back in time. Absolutely beautiful and also full of interesting individuals and displays.
Great advice for when things return to normal, Emily! For now, though, it's closed through at least April 30, as is most of Bisbee.
Wow I love Bisbee I told my daughter we must go to Bisbee 1000 step race in October, or really just anytime!
We loved it too, Olga. We'd love to return when everything is open and functioning.
Loved this video! A truly beautiful place.
We certainly were impressed by the area.
Enjoyable video to watch ... I wish I was out there too.
Thank you Cheri! Glad that you enjoyed it, and thanks for watching.
We’ve been traveling in Arizona in our RV this winter and just spent a month in Bisbee. It’s our 3rd winter visiting there. I enjoyed your video. Your video mentions the Copper Queen Hotel, but shows the Bisbee Grand Hotel.
True that, Mary Ann. It was just a weird, unintentional thing of timing as we dubbed in our narration, not intended to imply that we were showing the Copper Queen Hotel. The only shot we got of the Copper Queen Hotel was from the air.
Awesome video of places I may never be able to visit, thank yoi
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Thx GA for informative and interesting video.
Thank you, and thanks for watching, Bill!
again, very nice Mark.
Thank you!
Love Bisbee
As do we.
I really enjoyed this video, I will try that area in the future.
Thank you Brian! We're happy to be able to provide you with ideas.
love Bisbee grew up in Tucson
We'd love to see it again when businesses are "normal".
Wow. I am starting to look forward to your beautiful drone clips. Great!
Thank you so very much, Jon!
Great video Marc
Thanks bud!
I've ... Just speechless. Love Bisbee already.
It's a place that's easy to fall in love with.
Bisbee looks great! Thanks, Mark! 😉🇨🇦
Thank you Marian!
i love your videos very interesting I dont watch alot of youtubers because the content sucks I learn something or get to see places I might want to go thank you MARC
Thank YOU as always!
Thanks for taking us along!
Thank you as always for coming along, Gringo!
Very interesting. Welcome to Arizona
Thank you Sandra!
Your UA-cam channel helps me study English. Thank you
That's wonderful, James!
You never cease to amaze. Fantastic beauty you have presented. Stay healthy Marc..
Our viewers are the best! Thank you, Gary, and take care of yourself as well.
Hi Marc loved the town of Bisbee. We have been asked not to travel and lots of places have banned Motorhomes and campers. Phil is currently working delivering medications to Pharmacies so not getting much chance to spend time in his studio. Stay safe P&J
Hey Juliet! Great to hear from you. Wishing you and Phil safety and good health over there. Many parts of the US are currently under stay-at-home orders that are being more strictly or more loosely enforced, depending on the state. Here in Arizona where we are at present, life is surprisingly normal for at the moment, for the vast majority of our cases are limited to several large urban areas, particularly New York City. We're far more isolated out boondocking in the desert than we would be at home. Stay safe!
Grand Adventure Glad you are able to stay safe, keep the films coming as great to see people still traveling. Thanks P&J
@@lostweekendscaravan we surely will as long as we can, thanks!
Nice one Marc. Make sure the see the Titan II missile museum, south of Tucson about 15mi. Great history told there.
Wish we knew about it while we were there, Tom. At present we're about 50 miles west of Phoenix, and moving to the National Forest outside of Prescott today.
I love it when you take the truck off road. When most do it’s a Jeep or something and then I wonder if my 350 4*4 would make the trail. So like seeing that pickup out exploring. 👍👍👍 Thanks for putting out some great content. And flying that drone.
Appreciate it always, NonRev! We preferred our smaller and better protected Tacoma for off-roading, but the Tundra is capable of a lot.
Grand Adventure Definitely.... Mine has pretty good clearance but terrible turning radius. Being full crew/bed. So good for some but not at all for others. We want to hit like Moab and stuff. But will definitely have to ask the experts what trails I can hit and not if in our truck. And then maybe also rent something to do others.
@@nonrevhogan8938 true on all, we're in the same boat. Also with a longer vehicle you have to be conscious of approach, departure and breakover angles.
@@nonrevhogan8938 Great Question, I have struggled with this. I prefer a 2 wheel drive for towing, but maybe 4*4 would come in handy for some boondocking locations. I think you will want to rent in Moab, lots of Jeeps for rent, not too expensive.
There was a time not too long ago you couldn't drag folks to Bisbee kind of why I liked it so much back then. LOL
Oh Jenny, it's still got charm in spades. It's not cheesy, it's got character.
Excellent video work👍
Thank you so much!
Sounds pretty neat, Marc. Looking forward to it.
Gord
Looking forward to sharing it with you, Gord.
Loved this. So picturesque. Take care. We had snow today.
Thanks as always, Spell Madam! Where we're camped right now we may have a little bit of the white stuff ourselves midweek.
Great video as always, thank you!
Thank you as always, Stu!
Beautiful country, maybe this summer I will get back to traveling!👍🏽🙏👀💞
Hoping that we all can get back to traveling sooner, rather than later.
My wife and I went over all of the options before settling on our View: trailers; 5th wheels; class A/B/C RV's. On big advantage of a trailer or 5th wheel is the ability to go off roading, as shown in this video. We carry a Suzuki DR-Z400, but I have to admit, most of the time I'd prefer a 4WD truck. Great video, as usual!
Thanks as always, folks! Indeed, each format of RV comes with its own inherent advantages and disadvantages. We went with a trailer for it doesn't require a second engine to maintain, and we can easily head out and explore without bringing a separate car.
@@GrandAdventure As anyone who owns an RV will say -- buying one is all about compromise and priorities. While driving (on pavement) we want a sports car or performance sedan -- once parked, we want it to transform into a 'rock star bus'.
My wife and I looked very closely at Class B RVs (basically conversion vans) but finally decided that while their small size has advantages (parking, stealth camping, not subject to most length/height/weight restrictions) the disadvantages outweigh them.
We still feel the View/Navion (and similar) is a good 'in-between' size. We would not want a rig that's any larger. On balance, I'd still take the View over a trailer or 5th wheel -- but there are times when it would be nice to have a 4WD truck to go exploring in. The downside (from my perspective) are the occasional difficulties with towing -- maneuvering in tight spaces and having to back up if a road is blocked or a dead-end, with no place to turn around. That's not that common though.
Just thinking out loud. ;-)
@@sajohnson33 You certainly raise valid points. Like you said, it's all about compromise and weighing those factors that are most important to you. Sounds like you went through that very process, and I will confess those Views and Navions are beautiful machines. There's been a 2016 sitting in a used car lot that I drive past every day to the office. It's been there for at least a year. I won't say that I haven't been tempted to stop in and look at it.
@@GrandAdventure They're pretty nice, although I have to admit there are some that are better quality, including some of the Canadian mfrs, like LTV (Leisure Travel Vans) -- they are a lot more money though. I felt the View/Navion was a good value -- at the time. Unfortunately, Winnebago went into cost saving mode after 2009-2010. 2010 was the last year for the really nice cabinetry with the marine style 'push-to-lock' hardware. 2009 was the last year for the larger (18 gal) LP tank w/manual shut-off valve. The newer ones have 13 gal tanks with a solenoid actuated valve. For boondockers like you and I that's a big drawback because just the valve pulls 1A constantly from the batteries -- 24 Ah per day.
I could go on, but suffice it to say that if I were buying one now I'd look for a 2008-2010, with 2009 being the sweet spot (first year for the 5,000/500 lb hitch).
I'll admit to having a twinge of envy watching you drive to those ruins in your truck. The first part of the road I'd take the View on, but not that washed out part -- not intentionally anyway!
Very nice video. Excellent job. We loved the little town of Bisbee.
Thank you very much, folks! We loved Bisbee, too.
Enjoyed the video Marc! Bisbee wasn't on our radar, but is now! Neat town. Fellow UA-camr? Who could it be? I'll be tuning in.
Excellent, Tony! We look forward to seeing you next Wednesday.
What a cool town. Beautiful views.
It's a wonderful little spot, folks. Definitely put it on your must-see list.
Fantastic vid Marc, you have a fine talent Sir.
And you have a way of swelling my ego. 😁 Thank you so much!
Hey you wild and crazy couple, hope you two are staying out of trouble! had to stop by and see what's cooking!
Same as it ever was.
Nice video as usual! I love your camping spot. Bisbee is like Jerome, but much nicer looking. I said to my wife that your music in this video is pretty nice and my wife said you always have good music in your videos.
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The more I watch your videos, the more I think of trading in the 2 WD truck for a 4x4. 🤔
Thanks as always, Ram! 4WD definitely has its moments across the West.
Another great video as always. Like to see the inside of your rig someday if you have time.
Thanks Don! Great to hear from you, as always. A rig tour is on the list of things to do one of these days.
Just missed you, was there on Monday.
No kidding!
Great job, Mark. One question. Where is the opening shot of your title section? It looks like there’s an old railroad trestle on the right center. Just curious. Keep up the great work!
Thanks, Jeff! That shot is from North Trout Lake Road in Ophir, Colorado, just south of Telluride. And yes, that's an abandoned railroad trestle.
As I recall, I was got some beautiful turquoise rough from Bisbee years ago. Pretty desolate there.
Probably right, Curt. Turquoise was a by-product of the Copper Queen Mine in Bisbee.
I really enjoy your videos, Marc, and have watched almost all of your 144 episodes. You find the coolest campsites! I'm just wondering if you ever get nervous or have had any experiences when you have met another RV coming at you in the opposite direction when you are traveling on one-lane gravel backroads. It gets real tricky here in parts of Oregon with all of the trees, and no place to pass oncoming RV's. Have you had to deal with this?
We have, Kenny, and thank you so much for your viewership! We've also had to back a half mile down a winding one-lane forest road with a steep drop-off to one side, that wasn't fun but it wasn't related to other traffic. When we've encountered others coming the opposite way, together we've just always made it happen. Folks are generally very courteous and understanding. I can't really say that we think about it much while driving those roads.
Heh Mark we have been camped in quartzsite for a month. We need to move north but with this virus thing going on we need some ideas. My wife works so we need cell service. Ideas?
I'd try to stay in Arizona as their restrictions remain very lax compared with some other areas. Parts of the state (including Quartzsite), however, are about to get rather toasty. Prescott? We loved it there, that video will be out in two weeks. Absolutely everything you could ever need is available there, and you have both mountain forests and high desert. How about the White Mountains near Show Low? Flagstaff?
Too bad you didn't go a couple miles past Bisbee to Lowell, look it up and you'll see why.
I love you guys videos..I’m an African American camper and just ordered a 2021 Lance 2465 travel trailer and look forward to some awesome adventures.. I would love to know what type of satellite dish you guys currently use and what type of hook ups and WiFi provider you use . Any other advice would be nice and greatly appreciated..thank you and keep up the great work..cheers
Lance makes great stuff, Lee -- congratulations! Here's wishing you many Grand Adventures of your own in your new rig. We use a King Tailgater 2 automatic satellite dish, paired with a DISH Wally: ua-cam.com/video/PNOGFTwfu3M/v-deo.html
For Internet, we use Visible paired with a nano router: ua-cam.com/video/VrigHuE6igw/v-deo.html
The router in that video is no longer available, and we recently upgraded ourselves to the TP-Link TL-WR902AC AC750 router amzn.to/2Vlr1Az
Great video, Marc. I really liked Bisbee... definitely western quaint. It was fun watching you off-road and the aerial panoramas were stunning.
Around minute 1:03 the view looked as if you were either using a filter on your Mavic Pro or you did some digital enhancements. Tell me what you did. Thanks...
Gord
Thank you as always, Gord! I always fly with a polarizing ND filter on the drone. In that clip, I just happened to be pointing in the right direction for the polarizer to have full effect. There was no processing in post on that clip at all.
@@GrandAdventure Thanks Marc. It almost looked like a blue tinted polarizer lens. It had that old Kodac Ektachrome look to it that turns blues to a shade of azure. Very iconic looking.
Gord
Yeah, no tears for the loss of the bike. A folding, non-electric bike might be a good replacement though. Otherwise, walk more.
Town looked dead. Is this typical for this time of year or is the virus keeping people away?
Definitely virus. From what we understand, normally at this time of year the town would be vibrant and bustling.
Is that camper on back of your truck an A.R.E.?
What model?
It is indeed an A.R.E., but darned if we know which model. We ordered it through the dealer when we bought the truck, but added optional sliding/louver lift side windows, a carpeted ceiling and full BedRug as there are still times that we truck camp in the bed.
Aren’t you afraid when you’re gone that somebody might take your RV?
Not to sound snarky at all, but not even slightly.
What route did you take to get to FR-687?
You take Middlemarch Road, which splits off from the state highway about a half mile north of Tombstone.
How many live in Bisbee now?
5500
Not exactly camped in Bisbee.
Nope, we'd rather boondock near town than camp in an RV park in town.
DOUG AND BINGO STANHOPE. That is all.
Blow dogs for quarters
Hey Mark! Another great video as usual! You said you are headed to south Tucson next... we just left there a few weeks ago. Have you been to Madera Canyon? Here’s a video that we just posted on it. ua-cam.com/video/d3HuY5EKZBM/v-deo.html Lovely place to visit if you have the chance. Not as well known as some of the other haunts in the area. Much less crowded and great hiking. Take care and enjoy!
Thanks, Homie! Wish we knew this at the time, but we're actually about 3 stops ahead of our video production and we're now up in the National Forest near Prescott where I'm staring at two alligator juniper right out my dinette window, thanks for solving that mystery. Great job on that video, too! I see a lot of parallels in our filming and editing styles, you've gained a new sub. I don't know how your subs are that low, but that has to change. Finally I love Selena's eyes, she's gorgeous!
Grand Adventure Sorry you missed it Mark! Maybe next time you’re in the area. Glad you liked the video! I’m sure I did pick up a lot of your editing style from watching your videos. We just started the channel not long ago, so, hopefully it’ll pick up. We are currently staying in Camp Verde and are enjoying beautiful Sedona. I’ll have a new video posted tomorrow for Bell Rock. Love it here!! Thanks again and maybe we’ll see you out here somewhere! Take care, Ed
@@EddieAtLarge you too, Ed. We're not that far apart, keep your eye out. I plan to visit Jerome for the day from here at some point this weekend.
Grand Adventure We drove through Jerome about a week ago. It was a ghost town (pun intended). Most of the shops were closed. Be sure to visit the mine shaft at the state park entrance. The park was closed but the gates to the mine shaft were open. It was pretty interesting and you can view down into the shaft through the plexiglass viewing platform.
@@EddieAtLarge Very cool, Ed! Thank you. Yes, I expected that it would be empty, much like Bisbee and Tombstone were.
Go hit up Doug Stanhope