6:24 excuse me, WHAT?! As a kid I mained Yoshi in this game, and I could rarely ever get a good rank. You’re telling me that on top of my character apparently driving the worst, he was sabotaging my GP rank this whole time without the game telling me? My friendship with Super Circuit Yoshi is over
While that combo for MK8DX is bad, at least it is somewhat balanced. Meanwhile if you focus purely on speed/weight, you have no acceleration, mini turbo, or even turning capacity left
I feel Mario Kart Super Circuit is basically anti-Yoshi propaganda. Not only with the bad stats, but also the fact the “punishment” of not owning the game for multiplayer play is racing as multi-colored Yoshis.
that along w the brutality of 3 starring the game makes for the worst game in the series by far. only game I haven't 100% and I'll probably keep it that way.
@@jestfullgremblim8002 Yeah, it was a thing indeed. I used to do it wtih my siblings. We owned one copy of super circuit so if you did wireless play with those who didn't have copies, they played as Yoshi exclusively and you could only play the Mushroom Cup tracks. Same applied to DS only the other players got to play as the multiplayer exclusive Shy guy, who had perfectly balanced stats. It was common in the GBA days like Sonic Advance 1 and 2 had a multiplayer where in Download, you collect the most rings in a unique stage (and the characters chosen were based on player order so P2 was always Tails, P3 Knuckles, and P4 was either Amy in SA1 or Cream in SA2), but with multi cart multiplayer, you could race each other on actual stages. Ironically Sonic Advance 3 didn't have multiplayer at all.
So funny story. When I was a kid playing Mario Kart 64 for the first time, I remember sucking as every single character, but then when I selected Wario, I began dominating and constantly doing a lot better than I previously had, so I constantly picked him from then on, so I feel accomplished that I was able to do so well with the "worst character" in Mario Kart 64. :D
luigi is the worst in 64 the plumbers' acceleration finishes before the heavyweights', and luigi being lighter, spins out against wario, which mario doesn't have to worry about
That’s super wholesome, and I feel this! I had a similar thing happen to me too! Back when Smash 3DS first came out, there was this one guy I couldn’t beat at school. No matter what character I played, it didn’t matter. Then I got Samus in random, and all of a sudden I was destroying this guy! I learned way later that Samus was like hella bottom tier in Smash 4 up until the very final patch of the game’s lifespan.
Hehe kind of reminds me of how my dad, who never really played games much but was somewhat interested kept maining Toad simply cause Toad was his favorite. We had no idea Toad was also the actual best, but it kind of worked out.
A few notes on MK8DX. 1. Baby tracks exist, where the speed stat is trash. (this is very nuanced though, and is almost 200cc only now or completely gone.) 2. Because of the handling stat, Baby Peach/Baby Daisy have held more world records than Baby Rosalina/Lemmy. Those are all of my nitpicks. Another thing, you ended up picking the correct tires, as Metal tires have a +2 invincibility stat over gold tires (due to the balance patches.)
When my friend flew out to hangout with me, we played Mario Kart Wii and he chose the Baby Booster. Even I knew it was a bad choice, but I didn't want to judge him.
Mk wii is pretty funny because each weight class has a definitive best character that can hold their weight online compared to everyone else, lightweights even having 2 options
Absolute Banger Kai, been waiting for this, a few opinions here. For Mario Kart 64, I'd argue that Luigi is the worst, due to drifting being more important then handling for going fast in 64. Luigi would then be the worst due to him having lower weight then Mario. But still it's personal perference they both suck anyways. For Mario Kart Wii, I'd rank the Booster Seat as worse then the Nanobike, because with a bike atleast you can wheelie to offset the speed imbalance, it also has little to no speed loss when turning in a wheelie. Then I'd pick Toad, because acceleration and drift make little to no difference on a vehicle that turns like ASS and already has close to max accel in the first place, whereas Baby Mario is fighting for his life to stay on the track in the first place. In terms of character combo for 8DX, you're correct in picking Baby Peach and Rosalina. However with WORST CHARACTER? I'd give that out to Baby Mario's weight class, as Baby Daisy did manage to score a world record on Donut Plains 3 200CC. So atleast she has some merit to her. Tiny discrepencies, that's all. Keep on making gold.
Lad, Mario Kart Tour literally stopped updating a year ago However, despite there being so many drivers, drivers with bubble as their special item are easily the worst ones (Baby Peach, Baby Daisy, Baby Rosalina, Lemmy and the Lemmy, Cheep-Cheep, and Fish Bone Mii suits)
Yeah, simply the worst characters are the ones with the worst items (and multipliers) so the Common tier characters with Bubble are the worst. Bubble is the only special item that not only doesn't give you points, but even prevents you from getting points by actually racing as well, so it's self sabotage.
In Mario Kart Wii, the stat priorities should go like this. 1st: Speed 2nd: Drift 3rd: Weight 4th: Mini-Turbo 5th: Acceleration 6th: Off-Road 7th (Last): Handling We all know the Flame Runner is the best vehicle in the game since it's fast, heavy, and has good drift (the three most important stats in the game) and is an inside drifting bike. To find the worst vehicle in Mario Kart Wii, I'll have to reverse engineer that philosophy. The worst vehicle in the game is slow, light, and has bad drift. It must either be a Kart or an outside drifting bike, so this automatically eliminates the inside drifting bikes (the Bullet Bike, the Quacker, the Magikruiser, the Jet Bubble, the Mach Bike, the Sneakster, the Dolphin Dasher, the Flame Runner, and the Spear). First, let's find all vehicles from the twenty-seven options that are slow for their respective size classes. This eliminates the Standard Kart S, the Standard Bike S, the Standard Kart M, the Standard Bike M, the Standard Kart L, the Standard Bike L, the Super Blooper, the Tiny Titan, the Mini Beast, the Wild Wing, the Flame Flyer, the Honeycoupe, the Shooting Star, the Zip Zip, the Phantom, the Piranha Prowler, the Blue Falcon, the Sprinter, and the Jetsetter. Remaining 8 vehicles: the Booster Seat, the Bit Bike, the Cheep Charger, the Daytripper, the Sugarscoot, the Classic Dragster, the Wario Bike, and the Offroader. Next, let's find the vehicles from the remaining eight options that have bad drift for their respective size classes. This eliminates the Cheep Charger and Classic Dragster. Remaining 6 vehicles: the Booster Seat, the Bit Bike, the Daytripper, the Sugarscoot, the Wario Bike, and the Offroader. Finally, let's find the vehicles from the remaining six options that are light. This eliminates the Daytripper, the Offroader, and the Wario Bike. That leaves us with just three vehicles remaining: the Booster Seat, the Bit Bike, and the Sugarscoot. Since the Sugarscoot is the fastest and heaviest of the three, it gets eliminated. This means that, with my previously established criteria, the worst vehicles in the game are the Booster Seat and the Bit Bike. They are the slowest vehicles in the game, are the second lightest kart (behind the Cheep Charger) and bike (behind the Quacker) in the game respectively, and while they don't have bad drift, they don't have good drift either. I'll say the Bit Bike is worse because not only is it the slowest vehicle in the game, but it's also the second lightest vehicle in the game, only being slightly heavier than the Quacker.
Why did you write this when the video you are commenting on already did all of that? Everything from the reasoning to the final vehicle chosen was the same. Did you just click on the video and write your conclusion based on the title without watching it?
A few notes on MKWii. 1. The Bit Bike isn't the lightest combo in the game. The Quacker is. 2. Drift is considered to be far more important than mini-turbo. (hence why the Phantom sucks) 3. Bit Bike, which you considered the worst vehicle in the game actually had a world record for a long time due to it having important stats in that category. 4. Although bad for online play, Baby Mario is the most common lightweight in world records. 5. Bit Bike is one of the lightest vehicles in the game, but has similar weight to the Bullet Bike and the Magikruiser. 6. The drift stat is so important that an otherwise balanced vehicle like the Phantom becomes absolute garbage. I honestly think that the Baby Booster/Booster Seat is the worst combo in the game just because it can't wheelie.
Notes: Drift style is far more important than the drift stat. Also, having more than a certain amount of drift has diminishing returns. Mini Turbo does not have diminishing returns.
@@dragonslayerz2220 More notes: both are outward drift, where it is bad no matter what. Bit Bike has better drift. Another note, Handling is important on one of the most used mods. (Retro Rewind, where it also affects drift stat). All high speed, high drift vehicles are good. (Especially on DK Mountain and Snes Mario Circuit 3.)
@@joeym5243 "Most" not all? Whatever is necessary for world records aside, I remember all bikes outspeeding karts when wheelie. Wheelie is obviously meant to have a huge disadvantage in how bumping is costly, but when you're that close anyway items are a greater worry. I love karts in Wii, absolutely. Mostly designs. But I've never played a single track where the stronger mini turbo mattered more than wheelies. Add to that inside drifting and even without Flame Runner Wii is a bikes only game for serious players.
The best thing about MK7 is that acceleration doesn’t matter at all due to a technique called Delay Drifting/SSMTs. Essentially, all you have to do after getting hit is hop after a second, and right before you hit the ground, move your CPad to start a drift. You’ll be back up to top speed instantly
As a MK7 player myself, I'm surprised you nailed that part because a lot of times people dont know much about the game due to the lack of interest. But yeah for anyone wondering, every other class at least has some use cases. Small for battles and high accel combos, lightweight like yoshi for underwater, medium for small hitbox + glich categories and heavies ofc for max ground speed. Cruiser is just fully outclassed. Good video mate!
I now understood why Yoshi has bad turning in Super Circuit. But in Double Dash!!, if you see Bowser paired with Wario, Birdo or Toad, in 150cc, ohoho, you’re in for extreme amounts of rage!
As MKDD's strongest solider i can confirm the validity of the statement, even though Wario's only there because you need a heavy to pick the koopa king. Speaking as a Wario/Yoshi/Boo Pipes main
The baby booster is definitely worse than the bit bike. The bit bike has wheelies so is substantially faster on the majority of tracks. A vehicle with minimum stats but access to wheelies would probably be about as good as the baby booster, it’s probably the worst Mario kart vehicle ever.
The worst character in Mario Kart SNES is actually Bowser because of a recurring Mario Kart mechanic, the Rivals and also a SNES exclusive mechanic CPU items. So every character in the game has 2 Rivals and every CPU has special items they'll pull randomly that the player can't obtain. Bowser suffers the most from this mechanic specifically because Bowser's Rivals are both the Mario Bros and both the Mario Bros special item is the Star. This means the 2 computers that are programmed to pressure you the most have the strongest CPU items in the entire game and they can pull them in any place. This makes winning games as Bowser feel virtually impossible at times because the Rivals, there's only 2 other characters that have to deal with 1 of the Mario Bros, Luigi's 2nd rival is Mario and Koopa's primary rival is Luigi (this is also what makes Toad the unequivocal best character in SNES because Toad doesn't have to worry about the Mario Bros.) Poor Bowser has to deal with the 2 most dangerous CPUs in the entire game alongside some piss poor handling so avoiding the sparkly bros will prove to be an exercise in futility
Yoshi is blatantly the enemy you are worried about when using Bowser on SMK, this is because he is gonna throw eggs at you as you lap him, if your really good as you lap him the second time too
For Double Dash, the Koopa King is NOT the worst kart, it has a bad mini turbo like all heavy karts but has the best speed. The worst kart is the Boo Pipes for how slow it is. The worst characters would be Petey Piranha and King Boo. Yes, they can use all special items but that's a double edged sword because you can still get the less useful special items (especially Giant Bananas)
Dude, giant bananas are the best defensive item on the game. It blocks everything and it's huge size is great for unavoidable traps on certain stages. Not to mention you can get easily on 1st.
I’m genuinely quite glad to see why playing MK8 felt so weird to me after spending hours for months playing Wii. My go tos as a kid were baby Peach/Daisy with the bullet bike, which I had no IDEA is actually considered one of the best combos next to Funky+Bowser bike. I didn’t want to give up on my childhood mains, so I would try to play them in 8 and they just felt SO different and outclassed. Even if the stat changes are minute in the grand scheme, I feel vindicated!!!
There are a couple things I want to say. I think speed, miniturbo AND acceleration are the most important stats in mk8dx. Since there are 2 main strategies, bagging and frontrunning. For bagging (staying back to get good items and make a comeback), you need high speed to catch up faster. For frontrunning, acceleration and miniturbo are the most important with invincibility and speed being second most important. So the worst combo should have low stats on at speed acceleration and miniturbo, not only that it'd also have to be an inside drift bike since they cannot get purple miniturbos and most small time saving shortcuts cannot be done with sinside drift. For mkwii, a bike cannot be in the worst combination. Inside drift and wheelies make bikes straight up better than cars. Acceleration is probably one of the least important stats since if you hold both forward and brake you get a miniturbo wich gets you to top speed far faster than high acceleration Thst means the worst combination is toad on the booster seat
I feel like it's not right to rank what the worst character/vehicle is based on how well they can execute speedrun strats, especially since the majority of Mario Kart players are mostly just casual players who aren't actively competing for World Records. I think it would have been best to give two options in that scenario: one that's the worst for standard/casual gameplay, and one that's the worst specifically for speedrunning and competitive gameplay.
Agreed, though tbh, any "casual" ranking would just be putting whichever cart has the worst acceleration, since the assumption is that casual games are gonna be chaotic. And it's hard to apply any nuance beyond that, since there's no way to define the skill level of a "casual" player.
Technically the caveat is that if you're playing casual, then this video technically "isn't for you" as he pointed out, the characters that are the worst are particularly the worst at the stats that are most important for winning races, but if your goal isn't to actually win, then the worst is purely subjective... like you hate Queen Bee because she...'s just some giant NPC from Mario Sunshine that stole Birdo's slot as a playable character. XD Super Circuit though seemed to objectively be the worst since Yoshi doesn't give those GP points, and while you could argue the Bobomb is the worst item in Double Dash (as well as the heart), I personally find the Bowser Shell was often likely to come barreling back towards me since you can't launch it backwards, unlike the bob-omb (plus the bobomb mode in battle mode is so much fun!). Wario isn't likely to ever be blown up by his own bomb, but I've been hit countless times by Bowser's own shell. and throw the Bowser shell at DK's giant banana..... yeah... (for those who don't know, it'll bounce RIGHT back into your face). I'd give the edge to Bowser being the worst.
My friends and I played DS all the time at school. I used Bowser in the Dry Bomber… But not for snaking, I just liked to be ‘That Guy’ and get a mushroom, get behind them and boost into them to send them miles off the track. I was soon banned from playing bowser.
I understand what you are talking about, and as a Mario Kart player, it is always important to understand their strengths and weaknesses. Also, seeing Baby Peach being the worst character in MK8 Deluxe hurts my soul cause she is one of my mains alongside Luigi, Daisy, Link, Isabelle, Diddy Kong and sometimes Donkey Kong. But I noticed she will suck if you give her the worst kart combination, so I understand that clearly. By the way, I love Mario Kart Double Dash, for it was the first Mario Kart game, and seeing that combination you talked about is disgusting. I hate using the Koopa King kart cause it has a bad recovery if you get hit. Plus, Wario and Waluigi, in my opinion, have the worst special item cause of how dangerous and risky it is. At least Peach and Daisy's special item isn't bad and sometimes you get lucky getting it when you are between 4th to 2nd. The best special item is basically Pety Piranha and King Boo cause they can copy all the characters special items. Not to mention I love using Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong in Double Dash cause basically you can set good traps with their huge banana peel and mostly the Ai is always dumb enough to fall for it. Plus, I have seen so many people use Yoshi a lot in MK8 Deluxe with the teddy bear bike combo with the small blue or red wheels so I'm guessing he's the best character with the best combination from I'm seeing and thinking.
I remember having an argument with someone online about Acceleration being the worst stat in MK8D. Its important in every other MK game, but in the recent one, I really beg to differ.
I like how you mentioned that the Mario Brose are the only ones with two not so hot rankings in super Mario kart, but Bowser and donkey Kong Junior have three. It obviously doesn’t matter based on the star count but it’s worth mentioning.
Ignore this guy, still to this day there are some world records with Mario/Luigi on this game. They are also used by some top level players, when understanding this game well this character set are easily second highest and the gap is very small to Bowser/DK
To know that I’ve been unwittingly kneecapping myself in super circuit since I was like 6 by simply picking yoshi (fave character on the roster) is honestly mind boggling
Good video! I've been playing Mario Kart for decades and I've always been curious about this topic. I didn't know Mario or Luigi were the worst in Super Mario Kart. I actually struggled the most in Super Mario Kart using Yoshi or Peach as I never could get enough speed (even with 10 coins) and the 150cc CPU players just seem to leave them in the dust! Bowser definitely is a force to be reckoned with in Super Mario Kart once you get the controls down, but he takes a lot of skill to use. Bowser is the only character I can completely smoke the CPU players. I didn't realize they did Yoshi so dirty in Super Circuit! I _never_ could get 3-Star ranks with Toad, Peach or Yoshi. I now know why I usually stuck with Bowser for getting good ranks! 😅
I’m really confused by what you said about the table at 2:30. Bowser and DK jr also have 2 no so hots, as well as a third in acceleration. Then you added up the stars wrong too, Mario and Luigi have 5, not 4. Edit: I realise that the final column is for battle mode, which I hadn’t noticed before. It’s still confusing
Ive been so confused by that part. I tried adding up the stars in all different ways and none made sense. I thought i was going crazy when no one pointed this out in the comments
The heart has it's niche, but unlike Mario Kart Tour, it's PAINFULLY rare in Mario Kart Double Dash, and due to the nature of the item pool in that game, most players are throwing single greens, single reds or bananas around as only Koopa and Paratroopa (and Petey and King Boo) can get triple shells (not that they'd protect you from all three) and it doesn't protect you from transformation collision like Stars or Chain Chomp. The best thing it can do is block a Blue shell, but... good luck getting in first place with one. Fire balls at least act as a pseudo triple shell with how common they are, but you're right, they are lousy. I personally rate Bowser shell worse though... at least if you hit yourself wtih your own fireballs, you just spin out and carry on. Bowser shell though... and you can only throw it forwards so you can't even use it to keep people off your tail.
@@MarioMastar I like the hearts as they can grab most items including the Special ones. Fireballs tend to space out too much in my opinion and often cause too much "threading the needle".
I agree. Maybe it’s just because I used to use daisy a lot when I was younger but when I used to play MKDD the best items in my opinion were the bowser shell and the heart.
Worst item depending on skill and preferred shortcuts has to be Chain chomp. Odd choice I know but hear me out. Chain chomp takes control away from you. You move faster and mow down everything in your path, but you yourself are swaying left and right as your character is holding on to chain chomp with its rampage. The number of times I've regretted using it as I'm left at a bad angle or just in front of a banana or something made me avoid using it unlesa I had to. Star is better any day, and thankfully Bullet Bill fixes most flaws with chain chomp. Bobombs can spawn while you're first, and they are great both for defense and offense. I'll give you heart might be underwhelming, but it lasts as long as you don't get hit. IOW, using both well is skill issue. I'm surprised a Wario Peach combo is the worst when it was my main. Then again, I use that combo because I'm picking faves more than anything.
For double dash I’d say the worst combo is petey and king boo in the bowser off-roader. The reason why is for all the kart reasons you stated, the fact petey takes up so much space regardless of position, and both of their specials are randomized from the others. Peach and daisy’s special is bad (because you cannot get it while in the running. You have to be middle of the pack or worse), but it has its uses defensively and offensively (as you can say, run into the bowser shell intentionally. It doesn’t work on blue shell though).
If your metrics are purely based on a single player experience, where you’re just looking at raw stats and not accounting for item usage, the judgement for Super Mario Kart seems like a good pick. However, I feel like things get more complicated if we take enemy cpu item usage into account, because *specifically* in Super Mario Kart, CPU’s tend to spam items themed around their character. Donkey Kong jr has bananas, yoshi has the exclusive Egg Drop which acts like a banana, Bower has shells, but if there’s one or two characters that you definitely don’t want to face against, it’s Mario and Luigi. They spam Stars like crazy and with how bad the rubber banding ai is in this game, you have to be a god at the game to be able to even keep up, much less actually beat them, especially on harder difficulties.
I have to disagree with 2 parts of the mk8dx combo and its the fact that jet bike is almost definitely worse than steel driver and monster tires are worse than gold and metal under most circumstances considering the disadvantages of using them being destroying the ability to do air hops into drifts because those tire make you bounce after using any ramp
I don't think Tour would be that difficult to work out. You would essentially have to find the characters that get no additional boosts on the most courses, and then after that, if there are multiple characters on the same or similar amount of courses they don't get a boost on, look at the special items (lord help any character with the bubble)
I would argue the Bob-omb is a worse special item than the heart. Sure hearts are rare and they seem to only show up when you're far behind and need some aggressive items, but the Bob-omb actively hinders you half of the time. They pop constantly when you're around 4th place or so and if you get hit by a lightning while holding a Bob-omb it explodes on you causing you to take longer to recover from lightning and most of the time you end up facing the wrong way on the track so it takes even longer to recover.
You can throw them backwards for a really good defense. and generally you're not hitting yourself with a Bobomb. I'd actually argue Bowser Shell is the worst because it's very easy to hit yourself with it if you throw it in tight cooridors, since you can only throw it forward. Chain Chomp is also quite overrated....
Same, Double Dash and DS are mine. Controversial as it sounds, I like the risk/reward nature of Snaking as anyone can do it and doing it often leaves you vulnerable in a competitive race to messing up and crashing. What holds MK8 back despite being the most balanced is how much items matter where the majority of online players "sandbag". No other Mario Kart game was sandbagging a dominant strategy. it was a risky one, but you weren't going from 12th to first reliably like you do in MK8 Deluxe. Heck I'll take boost hopping over bagging anyday. If items are going to determine who wins or loses, I might as well just play Mario Party and turn off minigames.
SNES: People say that Bowser is bad because of his performance in a normal races, but look at time trails N64: People say that Bowser is bad, but I don't think so because of his performance in normal races
I could’ve sworn R.O.B. was tied with Bowser as the heaviest character in MKDS. Tbh, I thought the entire reason we saw him in the character select screen was because Kai was about to nominate them both as the worst character. Still, his frame is smaller than Bowser’s, so if it was a matter of who obstructs the screen more, Bowser would still be worse.
For Wii, I'd say the Booster Seat is worse than the Bit Bike. Wheelies are broken in Wii, so the Bit Bike has a significant speed advantage in straightaways
Interesting in every game except 8 Deluxe.... I saw a video of a guy doing that as a personal challenge and after a few races where he just wasn't getting close to top seed, he just went back to cheese strats like bagging. Ultimately proving that game doesn't require skill at all. At least the other games don't rely on item luck and short cut memorization to win. actual technique matters.
Bit bike being able to wheelie makes it better than the booster seat, while booster seat can snake and get red mts that last forever. Slowest character I think is Toad. I think baby Mario has speed, but he has weight which is better for being in the air
10:08 I was ABLE to finish all the courses in ghost data time trails with snaking with all cars in the game, it was difficult to do, but I was able to perform it.
I would argue that Yoshi and Birdo are the worst characters in Double Dash because their special is just a red shell that drops powerful items on the field for other racers to pick up, and there aren't really any standout medium-class karts. Baby Mario and Luigi are also pretty bad, with their special being mediocre and only available to them in 6th place or below, but they can at least benefit from a variety of good karts. The Heavy racers all get somewhat-decent specials and have some slightly better options in unlockable karts.
On MK64, the worst one is definitely Luigi by a landside. He has the slowest acceleration and weight compared to Wario and other heavyweights, and less weight compared to Mario, which is a middleweight. The list goes by this 1 - Yoshi/Peach 3 - Toad 4 - Bowser 5 - DK 6 - Wario 7 - Mario 8 - Luigi
Huh. Today I learned that my MK8 and Deluxe main that I routinely kick ass with isn't very good. Waluigi/Rosalina on the Jet Bike with Slim Tires. I feel I can be more precise with the inside drift. I guess unless you're in the top tier of competitive players, what works for you and feels more comfortable is better than copying the meta.
I think you messed up really badly in the Double Dash one. The Heart Power does protect you from Red Shells, which is quite potent, there is still a benefit for using it. We want something which has no benefit. Toad, Toadette, Baby Mario, and Baby Luigi all have this in their Special which is only obtainable when you're trailing behind which is further amplified as bad by King Boo and Petey who can access all of them. This means that you will be down useful items when you're around 4th, where you rely on speed to catch up. 1st place is the goal. While yes the Koopa King has flaws, it is still fast, the biggest weakness of it is Acceleration and its Big Frame correct? Having a power which outright stops you from getting hit circumvents this. You're also able to use this to catch up from when you're in 4th and stop getting as many good items where raw stats matter more. It also combos well with the Bomb item early in a race potentially letting you hit everyone. I tried to look up the drift types and I couldn't find any info classifying the karts with them, but we are looking for a slow one with the criteria for being bad on lightweights to optimize being bad.
I'm actually surprised that a bike got worst vehicle ranking at all in Wii. Bikes in Wii had the completely broken wheely that made them edge out most karts at straight roads. It's so broken that bikes never got them back after Wii even though inside drifting came back (albeit more balanced). If anyone picked a kart for any reason, it's just to flex. With their only use being specific time trial tricks, karts in a Mario Kart game were the clear worst choice for anyone looking to win. And yet Wii actually is my fave despite all these flaws. Go figure.
It seems that now, in mk8dx, at least in time trials, mini turbo is more than twice as worth speed, so bowser is actually worse. The bittybuggy (compared to teddy buggy trades 2 speed for 1 more mini turbo) has half of the 96 world records in this game, and it is what a lot of top players use. So i would say bowser is the worst in mk8dx. He sacrifices every other stat for a speed stat, and funky kong is objectively better.
The Heart is so op in Double Dash, you literally get double protection with a single item and while being in 1st place, you can also steal any item you want. Also Baby Peach and Baby Daisy are the best characters in Battle mode in 8DX
@@isaiahvang144 Thats the same with every item in the game besides the star, also if you are in first place you have low chances of running into a chain chomp or star, and the shock penalizes everyone equally in this game so imo the pros outweights the cons
@@generaljf7233 not to mention that if you do block an item, you can use it in your favor AND it gives you a larger pick up radius for items like mushrooms or stars that are lying on the track, which situationally can be a downside but on tracks like rainbow road its pretty nuts the only real downside here is that you get it relatively rarely, but ironically enough if paired with other racers this isnt as much of an issue since youve got a second item slot to work with for more common specials a better contender for worst special would have been one of the fireballs since while theyre relatively common, they are extremely easy to block or otherwise dodge, only go in a straight line and because there are so many of them and they bounce off the track a bit are more likely to hit you than other items, including things like the bowser shell and bob ombs
@@nettalie4435 Wait that reminds me. What about Yoshi/Birdo's egg? It's basically a red shell (and you can defend against it?) but the items spawned after hit have often been power ups like mushrooms and stars! It's one of those items I don't regret getting hit by at all considering I can pick up a reward anyway.
@@sdgdhpmbp id say that one's more neutral than anything tbh. Someone getting hit could benefit off of it but they dont see that coming so its not as easy to. Ypu yourself have a better shot tho.
@@fishymario well if you have the funds it's on NSO's Expansion, though i recommend doing time trials to get used to the controls before jumping into GP (or just go like yar har fiddle dee dee, i won't tell)
On a statistical level, the Bit Bike may seem like the worst in mario kart wii, but it's important to note that it is, without a doubt, better than it's counterpart. The bit bike can wheelie, automatically making it massively faster than the booster seat on straight lines by a very significant amount. Bikes in general, aside from possibly the phantom, are just better than karts. The booster seat is likely the worst vehicle in mario kart wii, then.
6:24 excuse me, WHAT?! As a kid I mained Yoshi in this game, and I could rarely ever get a good rank. You’re telling me that on top of my character apparently driving the worst, he was sabotaging my GP rank this whole time without the game telling me? My friendship with Super Circuit Yoshi is over
I read that as married
While that combo for MK8DX is bad, at least it is somewhat balanced. Meanwhile if you focus purely on speed/weight, you have no acceleration, mini turbo, or even turning capacity left
at least the fast combos are great at bagging while the combo shown on the video excels at absolutely nothing
@@biluv exactly what i wanted to say
Honestly the game is balanced to the point where the worst character isn't even that bad
Skill issue
@@raucoussauce1528 how does an almost unusable combo equate to "skill issue" wtf
I feel Mario Kart Super Circuit is basically anti-Yoshi propaganda.
Not only with the bad stats, but also the fact the “punishment” of not owning the game for multiplayer play is racing as multi-colored Yoshis.
that along w the brutality of 3 starring the game makes for the worst game in the series by far. only game I haven't 100% and I'll probably keep it that way.
gba has download play??? since when?
@@SuperM789 yeah... i'm not sure what bro is talking about. I haven't heard about this multicolored Yoshis thing ob super circuit
@@jestfullgremblim8002 Yeah, it was a thing indeed. I used to do it wtih my siblings. We owned one copy of super circuit so if you did wireless play with those who didn't have copies, they played as Yoshi exclusively and you could only play the Mushroom Cup tracks. Same applied to DS only the other players got to play as the multiplayer exclusive Shy guy, who had perfectly balanced stats. It was common in the GBA days like Sonic Advance 1 and 2 had a multiplayer where in Download, you collect the most rings in a unique stage (and the characters chosen were based on player order so P2 was always Tails, P3 Knuckles, and P4 was either Amy in SA1 or Cream in SA2), but with multi cart multiplayer, you could race each other on actual stages. Ironically Sonic Advance 3 didn't have multiplayer at all.
@@MarioMastar ohhh thanks for clarifying
So funny story. When I was a kid playing Mario Kart 64 for the first time, I remember sucking as every single character, but then when I selected Wario, I began dominating and constantly doing a lot better than I previously had, so I constantly picked him from then on, so I feel accomplished that I was able to do so well with the "worst character" in Mario Kart 64. :D
luigi is the worst in 64
the plumbers' acceleration finishes before the heavyweights', and luigi being lighter, spins out against wario, which mario doesn't have to worry about
That’s super wholesome, and I feel this! I had a similar thing happen to me too! Back when Smash 3DS first came out, there was this one guy I couldn’t beat at school. No matter what character I played, it didn’t matter. Then I got Samus in random, and all of a sudden I was destroying this guy! I learned way later that Samus was like hella bottom tier in Smash 4 up until the very final patch of the game’s lifespan.
Hehe kind of reminds me of how my dad, who never really played games much but was somewhat interested kept maining Toad simply cause Toad was his favorite. We had no idea Toad was also the actual best, but it kind of worked out.
“You pick…WARRRRIO!”
I always went for Wario when I was younger because of his voice lines being so funny to me. :P
A few notes on MK8DX.
1. Baby tracks exist, where the speed stat is trash. (this is very nuanced though, and is almost 200cc only now or completely gone.)
2. Because of the handling stat, Baby Peach/Baby Daisy have held more world records than Baby Rosalina/Lemmy.
Those are all of my nitpicks. Another thing, you ended up picking the correct tires, as Metal tires have a +2 invincibility stat over gold tires (due to the balance patches.)
When my friend flew out to hangout with me, we played Mario Kart Wii and he chose the Baby Booster. Even I knew it was a bad choice, but I didn't want to judge him.
eh, it's not worth pointing it out if you were just playing for the fun of it
Bit bike will still remain my main bike in Mario kart wii
Mk wii is pretty funny because each weight class has a definitive best character that can hold their weight online compared to everyone else, lightweights even having 2 options
Please tell me toad is one of the best lightweights
@@artemissapphicthe best lightweights are dry bones and baby daisy
@@artemissapphic toad sadly has next to no relevant character stats
but I'd pick him anyways because toad blue falcon
Absolute Banger Kai, been waiting for this, a few opinions here.
For Mario Kart 64, I'd argue that Luigi is the worst, due to drifting being more important then handling for going fast in 64. Luigi would then be the worst due to him having lower weight then Mario. But still it's personal perference they both suck anyways.
For Mario Kart Wii, I'd rank the Booster Seat as worse then the Nanobike, because with a bike atleast you can wheelie to offset the speed imbalance, it also has little to no speed loss when turning in a wheelie. Then I'd pick Toad, because acceleration and drift make little to no difference on a vehicle that turns like ASS and already has close to max accel in the first place, whereas Baby Mario is fighting for his life to stay on the track in the first place.
In terms of character combo for 8DX, you're correct in picking Baby Peach and Rosalina. However with WORST CHARACTER? I'd give that out to Baby Mario's weight class, as Baby Daisy did manage to score a world record on Donut Plains 3 200CC. So atleast she has some merit to her.
Tiny discrepencies, that's all. Keep on making gold.
Lad, Mario Kart Tour literally stopped updating a year ago
However, despite there being so many drivers, drivers with bubble as their special item are easily the worst ones (Baby Peach, Baby Daisy, Baby Rosalina, Lemmy and the Lemmy, Cheep-Cheep, and Fish Bone Mii suits)
Yeah, simply the worst characters are the ones with the worst items (and multipliers) so the Common tier characters with Bubble are the worst. Bubble is the only special item that not only doesn't give you points, but even prevents you from getting points by actually racing as well, so it's self sabotage.
@@MarioMastar The bubble is so bad that in an update, they added a way to discard it quickly by tapping the screen constantly
In Mario Kart Wii, the stat priorities should go like this.
1st: Speed
2nd: Drift
3rd: Weight
4th: Mini-Turbo
5th: Acceleration
6th: Off-Road
7th (Last): Handling
We all know the Flame Runner is the best vehicle in the game since it's fast, heavy, and has good drift (the three most important stats in the game) and is an inside drifting bike. To find the worst vehicle in Mario Kart Wii, I'll have to reverse engineer that philosophy. The worst vehicle in the game is slow, light, and has bad drift. It must either be a Kart or an outside drifting bike, so this automatically eliminates the inside drifting bikes (the Bullet Bike, the Quacker, the Magikruiser, the Jet Bubble, the Mach Bike, the Sneakster, the Dolphin Dasher, the Flame Runner, and the Spear).
First, let's find all vehicles from the twenty-seven options that are slow for their respective size classes. This eliminates the Standard Kart S, the Standard Bike S, the Standard Kart M, the Standard Bike M, the Standard Kart L, the Standard Bike L, the Super Blooper, the Tiny Titan, the Mini Beast, the Wild Wing, the Flame Flyer, the Honeycoupe, the Shooting Star, the Zip Zip, the Phantom, the Piranha Prowler, the Blue Falcon, the Sprinter, and the Jetsetter.
Remaining 8 vehicles: the Booster Seat, the Bit Bike, the Cheep Charger, the Daytripper, the Sugarscoot, the Classic Dragster, the Wario Bike, and the Offroader.
Next, let's find the vehicles from the remaining eight options that have bad drift for their respective size classes. This eliminates the Cheep Charger and Classic Dragster.
Remaining 6 vehicles: the Booster Seat, the Bit Bike, the Daytripper, the Sugarscoot, the Wario Bike, and the Offroader.
Finally, let's find the vehicles from the remaining six options that are light. This eliminates the Daytripper, the Offroader, and the Wario Bike.
That leaves us with just three vehicles remaining: the Booster Seat, the Bit Bike, and the Sugarscoot. Since the Sugarscoot is the fastest and heaviest of the three, it gets eliminated.
This means that, with my previously established criteria, the worst vehicles in the game are the Booster Seat and the Bit Bike. They are the slowest vehicles in the game, are the second lightest kart (behind the Cheep Charger) and bike (behind the Quacker) in the game respectively, and while they don't have bad drift, they don't have good drift either.
I'll say the Bit Bike is worse because not only is it the slowest vehicle in the game, but it's also the second lightest vehicle in the game, only being slightly heavier than the Quacker.
The Bit Bike can wheelie, putting it way ahead in speed. Booster seat and toad are the worst, toad has no benefits to speed, miniatures or weight
@@DungeonsPlayer2312bro he has drift and drift is great
@@SaltM313 ye well speed, weight and miniturbo are in my opinion more usefuk
@@DungeonsPlayer2312 I guess so
Why did you write this when the video you are commenting on already did all of that? Everything from the reasoning to the final vehicle chosen was the same. Did you just click on the video and write your conclusion based on the title without watching it?
A few notes on MKWii.
1. The Bit Bike isn't the lightest combo in the game. The Quacker is.
2. Drift is considered to be far more important than mini-turbo. (hence why the Phantom sucks)
3. Bit Bike, which you considered the worst vehicle in the game actually had a world record for a long time due to it having important stats in that category.
4. Although bad for online play, Baby Mario is the most common lightweight in world records.
5. Bit Bike is one of the lightest vehicles in the game, but has similar weight to the Bullet Bike and the Magikruiser.
6. The drift stat is so important that an otherwise balanced vehicle like the Phantom becomes absolute garbage.
I honestly think that the Baby Booster/Booster Seat is the worst combo in the game just because it can't wheelie.
Notes: Drift style is far more important than the drift stat. Also, having more than a certain amount of drift has diminishing returns.
Mini Turbo does not have diminishing returns.
@@dragonslayerz2220 More notes: both are outward drift, where it is bad no matter what. Bit Bike has better drift. Another note, Handling is important on one of the most used mods. (Retro Rewind, where it also affects drift stat). All high speed, high drift vehicles are good. (Especially on DK Mountain and Snes Mario Circuit 3.)
So true. Being able to wheelie probably puts the bit bike above most karts
@@joeym5243 "Most" not all? Whatever is necessary for world records aside, I remember all bikes outspeeding karts when wheelie. Wheelie is obviously meant to have a huge disadvantage in how bumping is costly, but when you're that close anyway items are a greater worry.
I love karts in Wii, absolutely. Mostly designs. But I've never played a single track where the stronger mini turbo mattered more than wheelies. Add to that inside drifting and even without Flame Runner Wii is a bikes only game for serious players.
@@sdgdhpmbp the bit bike speed is a genuine disadvantage, even with wheelie. Some karts like the wild wing and mini beast can still beat it though
The best thing about MK7 is that acceleration doesn’t matter at all due to a technique called Delay Drifting/SSMTs. Essentially, all you have to do after getting hit is hop after a second, and right before you hit the ground, move your CPad to start a drift. You’ll be back up to top speed instantly
2:38 yes and bowser and dk have 3, its a bit weird to state this with that in context.
As a MK7 player myself, I'm surprised you nailed that part because a lot of times people dont know much about the game due to the lack of interest. But yeah for anyone wondering, every other class at least has some use cases. Small for battles and high accel combos, lightweight like yoshi for underwater, medium for small hitbox + glich categories and heavies ofc for max ground speed. Cruiser is just fully outclassed. Good video mate!
I now understood why Yoshi has bad turning in Super Circuit.
But in Double Dash!!, if you see Bowser paired with Wario, Birdo or Toad, in 150cc, ohoho, you’re in for extreme amounts of rage!
Did you just entirely disregard unlockables in Double Dash? Cause It seems like none of them were even unlocked.
As MKDD's strongest solider i can confirm the validity of the statement, even though Wario's only there because you need a heavy to pick the koopa king. Speaking as a Wario/Yoshi/Boo Pipes main
12:49 The quacker beats that by one point. But unlike the quacker, this is an outside-drifting bike.
I’d say the booster seat is far worse than the bit bike because the bit bike can use wheelies, which is a 33% speed increase
The baby booster is definitely worse than the bit bike. The bit bike has wheelies so is substantially faster on the majority of tracks. A vehicle with minimum stats but access to wheelies would probably be about as good as the baby booster, it’s probably the worst Mario kart vehicle ever.
It is weird that multiple Mario kart games hide certain stats that could help players.
I mean, most people aren't complete nerds that care about the stats and just pick whoever they like the look of 😂
The worst character in Mario Kart SNES is actually Bowser because of a recurring Mario Kart mechanic, the Rivals and also a SNES exclusive mechanic CPU items.
So every character in the game has 2 Rivals and every CPU has special items they'll pull randomly that the player can't obtain. Bowser suffers the most from this mechanic specifically because Bowser's Rivals are both the Mario Bros and both the Mario Bros special item is the Star. This means the 2 computers that are programmed to pressure you the most have the strongest CPU items in the entire game and they can pull them in any place. This makes winning games as Bowser feel virtually impossible at times because the Rivals, there's only 2 other characters that have to deal with 1 of the Mario Bros, Luigi's 2nd rival is Mario and Koopa's primary rival is Luigi (this is also what makes Toad the unequivocal best character in SNES because Toad doesn't have to worry about the Mario Bros.) Poor Bowser has to deal with the 2 most dangerous CPUs in the entire game alongside some piss poor handling so avoiding the sparkly bros will prove to be an exercise in futility
All of that becomes a non issue once you understand how he works
Yoshi is blatantly the enemy you are worried about when using Bowser on SMK, this is because he is gonna throw eggs at you as you lap him, if your really good as you lap him the second time too
I didn't realise this video was so new, it's really good 👍👍
Damn it, why is your voice so calm?! I LOVE IT BRO, KEEP IT UP!
For Double Dash, the Koopa King is NOT the worst kart, it has a bad mini turbo like all heavy karts but has the best speed. The worst kart is the Boo Pipes for how slow it is.
The worst characters would be Petey Piranha and King Boo. Yes, they can use all special items but that's a double edged sword because you can still get the less useful special items (especially Giant Bananas)
Dude, giant bananas are the best defensive item on the game. It blocks everything and it's huge size is great for unavoidable traps on certain stages. Not to mention you can get easily on 1st.
baby peach steeldriver metal and super glider is easy in grand prix
11:00 Bowser in Royale is actually pretty good for Rainbow Road- easier to turn and harder to get knocked off the road by opponents
I’m genuinely quite glad to see why playing MK8 felt so weird to me after spending hours for months playing Wii. My go tos as a kid were baby Peach/Daisy with the bullet bike, which I had no IDEA is actually considered one of the best combos next to Funky+Bowser bike.
I didn’t want to give up on my childhood mains, so I would try to play them in 8 and they just felt SO different and outclassed. Even if the stat changes are minute in the grand scheme, I feel vindicated!!!
There are a couple things I want to say. I think speed, miniturbo AND acceleration are the most important stats in mk8dx. Since there are 2 main strategies, bagging and frontrunning. For bagging (staying back to get good items and make a comeback), you need high speed to catch up faster. For frontrunning, acceleration and miniturbo are the most important with invincibility and speed being second most important. So the worst combo should have low stats on at speed acceleration and miniturbo, not only that it'd also have to be an inside drift bike since they cannot get purple miniturbos and most small time saving shortcuts cannot be done with sinside drift.
For mkwii, a bike cannot be in the worst combination. Inside drift and wheelies make bikes straight up better than cars. Acceleration is probably one of the least important stats since if you hold both forward and brake you get a miniturbo wich gets you to top speed far faster than high acceleration
Thst means the worst combination is toad on the booster seat
I feel like it's not right to rank what the worst character/vehicle is based on how well they can execute speedrun strats, especially since the majority of Mario Kart players are mostly just casual players who aren't actively competing for World Records. I think it would have been best to give two options in that scenario: one that's the worst for standard/casual gameplay, and one that's the worst specifically for speedrunning and competitive gameplay.
Agreed, though tbh, any "casual" ranking would just be putting whichever cart has the worst acceleration, since the assumption is that casual games are gonna be chaotic. And it's hard to apply any nuance beyond that, since there's no way to define the skill level of a "casual" player.
Technically the caveat is that if you're playing casual, then this video technically "isn't for you" as he pointed out, the characters that are the worst are particularly the worst at the stats that are most important for winning races, but if your goal isn't to actually win, then the worst is purely subjective... like you hate Queen Bee because she...'s just some giant NPC from Mario Sunshine that stole Birdo's slot as a playable character. XD
Super Circuit though seemed to objectively be the worst since Yoshi doesn't give those GP points, and while you could argue the Bobomb is the worst item in Double Dash (as well as the heart), I personally find the Bowser Shell was often likely to come barreling back towards me since you can't launch it backwards, unlike the bob-omb (plus the bobomb mode in battle mode is so much fun!). Wario isn't likely to ever be blown up by his own bomb, but I've been hit countless times by Bowser's own shell. and throw the Bowser shell at DK's giant banana..... yeah... (for those who don't know, it'll bounce RIGHT back into your face). I'd give the edge to Bowser being the worst.
Queen bee stole waluigi's slot not birdo's
My friends and I played DS all the time at school.
I used Bowser in the Dry Bomber… But not for snaking, I just liked to be ‘That Guy’ and get a mushroom, get behind them and boost into them to send them miles off the track.
I was soon banned from playing bowser.
I remember rambling at my grandparents about how the speed stat in Super Circuit actually referred to acceleration
no I did not pause to read the text at the start, and yes, I am a legend, thank you
I was hoping for a new current state of franchises video but this is cool regardless.
I understand what you are talking about, and as a Mario Kart player, it is always important to understand their strengths and weaknesses. Also, seeing Baby Peach being the worst character in MK8 Deluxe hurts my soul cause she is one of my mains alongside Luigi, Daisy, Link, Isabelle, Diddy Kong and sometimes Donkey Kong. But I noticed she will suck if you give her the worst kart combination, so I understand that clearly. By the way, I love Mario Kart Double Dash, for it was the first Mario Kart game, and seeing that combination you talked about is disgusting. I hate using the Koopa King kart cause it has a bad recovery if you get hit. Plus, Wario and Waluigi, in my opinion, have the worst special item cause of how dangerous and risky it is. At least Peach and Daisy's special item isn't bad and sometimes you get lucky getting it when you are between 4th to 2nd. The best special item is basically Pety Piranha and King Boo cause they can copy all the characters special items. Not to mention I love using Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong in Double Dash cause basically you can set good traps with their huge banana peel and mostly the Ai is always dumb enough to fall for it. Plus, I have seen so many people use Yoshi a lot in MK8 Deluxe with the teddy bear bike combo with the small blue or red wheels so I'm guessing he's the best character with the best combination from I'm seeing and thinking.
I remember having an argument with someone online about Acceleration being the worst stat in MK8D. Its important in every other MK game, but in the recent one, I really beg to differ.
Super Circuit is my favorite MK game and I would always play as Yoshi and had no idea I was playing on hardcore gamer mode
I like how you mentioned that the Mario Brose are the only ones with two not so hot rankings in super Mario kart, but Bowser and donkey Kong Junior have three. It obviously doesn’t matter based on the star count but it’s worth mentioning.
2:34 only ones that have a not so hot ranking twice
Dkjr+Bowser: Am I a joke to you?
Read it closely.
@@thewiseoldfox Can you elaborate please?
@@DewyRueskie-sl7nk the four columns he mentioned on the chart are the ones that matter most
Ignore this guy, still to this day there are some world records with Mario/Luigi on this game. They are also used by some top level players, when understanding this game well this character set are easily second highest and the gap is very small to Bowser/DK
To know that I’ve been unwittingly kneecapping myself in super circuit since I was like 6 by simply picking yoshi (fave character on the roster) is honestly mind boggling
Good video! I've been playing Mario Kart for decades and I've always been curious about this topic. I didn't know Mario or Luigi were the worst in Super Mario Kart. I actually struggled the most in Super Mario Kart using Yoshi or Peach as I never could get enough speed (even with 10 coins) and the 150cc CPU players just seem to leave them in the dust! Bowser definitely is a force to be reckoned with in Super Mario Kart once you get the controls down, but he takes a lot of skill to use. Bowser is the only character I can completely smoke the CPU players.
I didn't realize they did Yoshi so dirty in Super Circuit! I _never_ could get 3-Star ranks with Toad, Peach or Yoshi. I now know why I usually stuck with Bowser for getting good ranks! 😅
I’m really confused by what you said about the table at 2:30. Bowser and DK jr also have 2 no so hots, as well as a third in acceleration.
Then you added up the stars wrong too, Mario and Luigi have 5, not 4.
Edit: I realise that the final column is for battle mode, which I hadn’t noticed before. It’s still confusing
Ive been so confused by that part. I tried adding up the stars in all different ways and none made sense. I thought i was going crazy when no one pointed this out in the comments
Still pick mario or Luigi so the AI doesn't get it.
You mean due to them being able to spam stars for free?
4:30
You showed this against DK, of course he is slower...^^
um what
12:40
Nope. It’s a bike, so it gets wheelies. It’s actual top speed is higher than the Baby Buggy
Go figure…….one of the most mystically powerful Mario characters is the worst character to play as in MK7.
0:11 Yeah, I actually paused to read this, and I actually am French !
Gross
0:09 I will not stop trying, I want to read more!
This is a great video! Thanks!
This was such a great video :D
Ngl, Circuit is my fave; first one, but also I loved those hyper colorized environs. Circuit has the most beautiful sprite graphics.
I've always been a bowser main in all the games been loyal to the king of the koopas
I would put the Fireballs from Mario/Luigi below the Heart from Peach and Daisy.
The heart has it's niche, but unlike Mario Kart Tour, it's PAINFULLY rare in Mario Kart Double Dash, and due to the nature of the item pool in that game, most players are throwing single greens, single reds or bananas around as only Koopa and Paratroopa (and Petey and King Boo) can get triple shells (not that they'd protect you from all three) and it doesn't protect you from transformation collision like Stars or Chain Chomp. The best thing it can do is block a Blue shell, but... good luck getting in first place with one.
Fire balls at least act as a pseudo triple shell with how common they are, but you're right, they are lousy. I personally rate Bowser shell worse though... at least if you hit yourself wtih your own fireballs, you just spin out and carry on. Bowser shell though... and you can only throw it forwards so you can't even use it to keep people off your tail.
@@MarioMastar I like the hearts as they can grab most items including the Special ones. Fireballs tend to space out too much in my opinion and often cause too much "threading the needle".
I agree. Maybe it’s just because I used to use daisy a lot when I was younger but when I used to play MKDD the best items in my opinion were the bowser shell and the heart.
Worst item depending on skill and preferred shortcuts has to be Chain chomp. Odd choice I know but hear me out.
Chain chomp takes control away from you. You move faster and mow down everything in your path, but you yourself are swaying left and right as your character is holding on to chain chomp with its rampage. The number of times I've regretted using it as I'm left at a bad angle or just in front of a banana or something made me avoid using it unlesa I had to. Star is better any day, and thankfully Bullet Bill fixes most flaws with chain chomp.
Bobombs can spawn while you're first, and they are great both for defense and offense. I'll give you heart might be underwhelming, but it lasts as long as you don't get hit. IOW, using both well is skill issue.
I'm surprised a Wario Peach combo is the worst when it was my main. Then again, I use that combo because I'm picking faves more than anything.
@@sdgdhpmbp Chain Chomp really depends on the track. Easy ones he's great. Hard ones he can be a death sentence.
I took pretty big soul damage when the video opened up with two games in a row where I apparently main the worst character
For double dash I’d say the worst combo is petey and king boo in the bowser off-roader.
The reason why is for all the kart reasons you stated, the fact petey takes up so much space regardless of position, and both of their specials are randomized from the others.
Peach and daisy’s special is bad (because you cannot get it while in the running. You have to be middle of the pack or worse), but it has its uses defensively and offensively (as you can say, run into the bowser shell intentionally. It doesn’t work on blue shell though).
I never knew skill points existed in super circuit. What a weird decision
If your metrics are purely based on a single player experience, where you’re just looking at raw stats and not accounting for item usage, the judgement for Super Mario Kart seems like a good pick. However, I feel like things get more complicated if we take enemy cpu item usage into account, because *specifically* in Super Mario Kart, CPU’s tend to spam items themed around their character. Donkey Kong jr has bananas, yoshi has the exclusive Egg Drop which acts like a banana, Bower has shells, but if there’s one or two characters that you definitely don’t want to face against, it’s Mario and Luigi. They spam Stars like crazy and with how bad the rubber banding ai is in this game, you have to be a god at the game to be able to even keep up, much less actually beat them, especially on harder difficulties.
The gold tires may be the worst in MK8DX but you will not stop me from flexing that I unlocked them >:(
12:20 Phantom: *am I even a vehicle anymore*
Bro really said "Yoashi"
I have to disagree with 2 parts of the mk8dx combo and its the fact that jet bike is almost definitely worse than steel driver and monster tires are worse than gold and metal under most circumstances considering the disadvantages of using them being destroying the ability to do air hops into drifts because those tire make you bounce after using any ramp
11:39 Shoutout to Mini-Trubo. Gotta be my favorite Star Wars character
I don't think Tour would be that difficult to work out. You would essentially have to find the characters that get no additional boosts on the most courses, and then after that, if there are multiple characters on the same or similar amount of courses they don't get a boost on, look at the special items (lord help any character with the bubble)
SOMEONE FINALLY SEPARATES MK8 AND MK8D!!! LETS GOOOOOOOOO
It's funny, because I literally said "No, my favorite is Super Circuit"
I would argue the Bob-omb is a worse special item than the heart. Sure hearts are rare and they seem to only show up when you're far behind and need some aggressive items, but the Bob-omb actively hinders you half of the time. They pop constantly when you're around 4th place or so and if you get hit by a lightning while holding a Bob-omb it explodes on you causing you to take longer to recover from lightning and most of the time you end up facing the wrong way on the track so it takes even longer to recover.
You can throw them backwards for a really good defense. and generally you're not hitting yourself with a Bobomb. I'd actually argue Bowser Shell is the worst because it's very easy to hit yourself with it if you throw it in tight cooridors, since you can only throw it forward. Chain Chomp is also quite overrated....
my favorite is Double Dash
My favorite is MK7 3DS
Same, Double Dash and DS are mine. Controversial as it sounds, I like the risk/reward nature of Snaking as anyone can do it and doing it often leaves you vulnerable in a competitive race to messing up and crashing. What holds MK8 back despite being the most balanced is how much items matter where the majority of online players "sandbag". No other Mario Kart game was sandbagging a dominant strategy. it was a risky one, but you weren't going from 12th to first reliably like you do in MK8 Deluxe. Heck I'll take boost hopping over bagging anyday. If items are going to determine who wins or loses, I might as well just play Mario Party and turn off minigames.
#BabyPark4Life
11:12 That’s funny because my favorite is super circuit because I grew up with a GBA 😂
The GBA era was so nostalgic. Super Mario Advance series on top of it!
@@MarioMastar oh yeah I really love the advance coins they added on some of the Mario advance games
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Welp, I compete in Double Dash Tournaments at a convention every July, and have won a race with the worst vehicle and heart in that game.
SNES: People say that Bowser is bad because of his performance in a normal races, but look at time trails
N64: People say that Bowser is bad, but I don't think so because of his performance in normal races
18:20 Man, to think that Bowser + Royale is my main combo in MKDS and I win almost all the time without snaking...
The problem with Mario and Luigi is that if they are controlled by the CPU THEY ALWAYS HAVE A STAR READY TO USE
I could’ve sworn R.O.B. was tied with Bowser as the heaviest character in MKDS. Tbh, I thought the entire reason we saw him in the character select screen was because Kai was about to nominate them both as the worst character.
Still, his frame is smaller than Bowser’s, so if it was a matter of who obstructs the screen more, Bowser would still be worse.
For Wii, I'd say the Booster Seat is worse than the Bit Bike. Wheelies are broken in Wii, so the Bit Bike has a significant speed advantage in straightaways
I think it would be interesting using the worst combinaton and trying to get first place, as challenge
Interesting in every game except 8 Deluxe.... I saw a video of a guy doing that as a personal challenge and after a few races where he just wasn't getting close to top seed, he just went back to cheese strats like bagging. Ultimately proving that game doesn't require skill at all. At least the other games don't rely on item luck and short cut memorization to win. actual technique matters.
I think for Mario and Luigi, you need to remember that in a GP the AI Mario and Luigi have stars
For MK64 Bowser is definitely one of the best. He go fast and he can body everyone else. He’s my main for sure.
6:27 I didn't even know that and I mained yoshi to 100% that game 2 years ago☠️
I don't know whether to be impressed or horrified.
14:00 this music is so nostalgic
I like using these when playing with my friends who have lives and don’t have 300 hours in MK8DX
I've always played yoshi in super circuit because he's my favorite. This whole time I just thought the game was harder than the others in the series.
Bit bike being able to wheelie makes it better than the booster seat, while booster seat can snake and get red mts that last forever. Slowest character I think is Toad. I think baby Mario has speed, but he has weight which is better for being in the air
I would say so long as your acceleration is tier 2 in 7, you’re good.
I can use these combos when playing against my family members. Thanks. :^).
They patched out the bunny-hopping meta in Deluxe? I would not have known that if you hadn't said it. I still bunny-hop relentlessly.
Small nitpick, as we all know, there was a balance change made to 8DX, so that may have effected the final result
10:08 I was ABLE to finish all the courses in ghost data time trails with snaking with all cars in the game, it was difficult to do, but I was able to perform it.
I would argue that Yoshi and Birdo are the worst characters in Double Dash because their special is just a red shell that drops powerful items on the field for other racers to pick up, and there aren't really any standout medium-class karts. Baby Mario and Luigi are also pretty bad, with their special being mediocre and only available to them in 6th place or below, but they can at least benefit from a variety of good karts. The Heavy racers all get somewhat-decent specials and have some slightly better options in unlockable karts.
On MK64, the worst one is definitely Luigi by a landside. He has the slowest acceleration and weight compared to Wario and other heavyweights, and less weight compared to Mario, which is a middleweight.
The list goes by this
1 - Yoshi/Peach
3 - Toad
4 - Bowser
5 - DK
6 - Wario
7 - Mario
8 - Luigi
11:13 the fact that super circut actually is my favorite mario kart-
Huh. Today I learned that my MK8 and Deluxe main that I routinely kick ass with isn't very good. Waluigi/Rosalina on the Jet Bike with Slim Tires. I feel I can be more precise with the inside drift. I guess unless you're in the top tier of competitive players, what works for you and feels more comfortable is better than copying the meta.
I think you messed up really badly in the Double Dash one.
The Heart Power does protect you from Red Shells, which is quite potent, there is still a benefit for using it. We want something which has no benefit. Toad, Toadette, Baby Mario, and Baby Luigi all have this in their Special which is only obtainable when you're trailing behind which is further amplified as bad by King Boo and Petey who can access all of them. This means that you will be down useful items when you're around 4th, where you rely on speed to catch up. 1st place is the goal.
While yes the Koopa King has flaws, it is still fast, the biggest weakness of it is Acceleration and its Big Frame correct? Having a power which outright stops you from getting hit circumvents this. You're also able to use this to catch up from when you're in 4th and stop getting as many good items where raw stats matter more. It also combos well with the Bomb item early in a race potentially letting you hit everyone.
I tried to look up the drift types and I couldn't find any info classifying the karts with them, but we are looking for a slow one with the criteria for being bad on lightweights to optimize being bad.
Doesn’t mention that the bit bike is outside drift too; kinda important to acknowledge since most bikes have inside drift which is insane in Wii
I'm actually surprised that a bike got worst vehicle ranking at all in Wii. Bikes in Wii had the completely broken wheely that made them edge out most karts at straight roads. It's so broken that bikes never got them back after Wii even though inside drifting came back (albeit more balanced).
If anyone picked a kart for any reason, it's just to flex. With their only use being specific time trial tricks, karts in a Mario Kart game were the clear worst choice for anyone looking to win.
And yet Wii actually is my fave despite all these flaws. Go figure.
Alt title: who to pick in order to fight kai for last place
It seems that now, in mk8dx, at least in time trials, mini turbo is more than twice as worth speed, so bowser is actually worse. The bittybuggy (compared to teddy buggy trades 2 speed for 1 more mini turbo) has half of the 96 world records in this game, and it is what a lot of top players use. So i would say bowser is the worst in mk8dx. He sacrifices every other stat for a speed stat, and funky kong is objectively better.
The Heart is so op in Double Dash, you literally get double protection with a single item and while being in 1st place, you can also steal any item you want.
Also Baby Peach and Baby Daisy are the best characters in Battle mode in 8DX
The downside of the Heart is you still aren't immune to Chain Chomps, Stars, Lighting, and Blue Shells.
@@isaiahvang144 Thats the same with every item in the game besides the star, also if you are in first place you have low chances of running into a chain chomp or star, and the shock penalizes everyone equally in this game so imo the pros outweights the cons
@@generaljf7233 not to mention that if you do block an item, you can use it in your favor AND it gives you a larger pick up radius for items like mushrooms or stars that are lying on the track, which situationally can be a downside but on tracks like rainbow road its pretty nuts
the only real downside here is that you get it relatively rarely, but ironically enough if paired with other racers this isnt as much of an issue since youve got a second item slot to work with for more common specials
a better contender for worst special would have been one of the fireballs since while theyre relatively common, they are extremely easy to block or otherwise dodge, only go in a straight line and because there are so many of them and they bounce off the track a bit are more likely to hit you than other items, including things like the bowser shell and bob ombs
@@nettalie4435 Wait that reminds me. What about Yoshi/Birdo's egg? It's basically a red shell (and you can defend against it?) but the items spawned after hit have often been power ups like mushrooms and stars! It's one of those items I don't regret getting hit by at all considering I can pick up a reward anyway.
@@sdgdhpmbp id say that one's more neutral than anything tbh. Someone getting hit could benefit off of it but they dont see that coming so its not as easy to. Ypu yourself have a better shot tho.
it’s so funny how the super glider has been the worst in all 3 of its games
it's funny because Super Circuit is my fav
Its funny because i dont play mk alot and ive never played that game
@@fishymario well if you have the funds it's on NSO's Expansion, though i recommend doing time trials to get used to the controls before jumping into GP (or just go like yar har fiddle dee dee, i won't tell)
Watching the Mario Kart 8 Deluxe part and my favorite wheels and bodies are in the worst part 💀
On a statistical level, the Bit Bike may seem like the worst in mario kart wii, but it's important to note that it is, without a doubt, better than it's counterpart.
The bit bike can wheelie, automatically making it massively faster than the booster seat on straight lines by a very significant amount. Bikes in general, aside from possibly the phantom, are just better than karts. The booster seat is likely the worst vehicle in mario kart wii, then.