3:42 for those who didn't understand, that's including myself, lobunny has the Klutz ability, which means they can't use the effects of items, good or bad. So you cant heal from leftovers, you cant get choice locked, but you dont get the stat boost either. Usually a useless ability, but being able to switch assault vest is a perk I never noticed.
klutz allows for all kinds of nasty trick plays like scarfing or assault vesting walls and supports, or just tossing a flame/toxic orb or black sludge for damage
i remember seeing such tactics in yugioh where you leave a monster or other on the opponent's field and having that monster on their field or deck can be detrimental or fatal to the player. Lava golem with 3,000 atk but siphons like 1,000 Life Points and some Parasite card making you lose the game when you draw it cuz the player made their parasite card get forced into your deck by card effect. Strategy isn't just about buffs but also debuffs or whatever you can do to hurt and cripple your opponent. Temp srsly understands pokemon abilities to the point where he can use the abilities to manipulate item switching between the players cuz why not.
Yeah like man is shocked he keeps missing against a mon with like +5 evasion. That’s just the most likely outcome my dude. Though hitting sing first try could be considered lucky but he missed several songs after that so it all evens out
I've had people use spikes 3 times and stealth rocks against my magic bounce antilead and they don't pay attention that they just set up on themselves while I get my screens up.
To be fair, he was right. He was missing something. Namely that his 6+ attack is actually a 0 attack when used against Clefable. Clefable's unaware makes it so enemy attack up boosts don't work.
@@Aerowind never got the name of that ability being "unaware" like, how does something not affect you if you just don't realize it's there? Seems to me like it would do even more damage if you were unaware XD
@@yaboi2500 naw, it’s like that one looney tunes episode. Back when kid Elmer met Kid bugs at the start of Summer Vacation. Bugs led him off a cliff, but he didn’t fallen. He hadn’t studied the Law of Gravity yet. So, Bugs leaves a basic physic’s book for Elmer to find, and he reads up on it. Goes off a cliff again, but this time, he falls.
People get so mad when you have all those stat buffs but they just sit there and try to stealth rock diancie for the first like 10 turns, its like theres no cognitive activity at all
This is kind of why I quit competitive Pokemon years ago. I'm here trying to have fun and these salty people just want to shit all over it, especially when I run sets that aren't standard
It's literally the same as when a karen says they're going to get someone fired, their only recourse for their ego is threatening things they know won't happen so they can live rent-free in your head for a while.
I love how you can see a clear difference between someone who actually understands the game and someone who thinks they're top shit just because of a legendary.
@@Name-ru1kt I mean the guy did hit a lot, and even through Max evasion which is INSANE, by the way. It's mainly the fact that legend spammers use the same 2 moves, which is why they're so easy to read.
@@Craeonkie in another comment someone said that chansey also had an ability that ignored enemies +attack, so the guy was also swinging with a +0 and not a +6
@@themightykv-5410 Wow, it’s crazy that things in a game have counters. I can’t imagine that. I’ve only played games where there is one meta that can never be beaten at all, and every time I play everyone ties. You’re telling me that you can counter baton pass? Surely you jest! That’s impossible!
it wasn’t just a kick in the teeth, it was a slow, painful extraction of each tooth via pliers followed by the insertion of screws into the gums, which were then allowed to rust within his mouth to give him tetanus and stop his cold, dead heart.
I should try that and see how it goes “Attention opposing player I have earth power and am going to click it, please go into Heatran expecting ice beam”
Can i say that i really liked the guy that was like “I’ll let you have your fun :)” and a little afterwards with the “oh i see we both had the same idea!” With the scerene grace mons? I just think that was nice
Baton Pass teams are so much fun. I remember having a good time on Gen 6 OU with one, but then a rule or something prevented Baton Pass on more than one Pokémon so I kinda stopped playing. Power Trip got me excited though
i did in balanced hackmons gen 7... i baton passed between blissey(prankster) arceus(simple) and scizor (flash fire) and boosted everything then baton pass to bidoof amd sweep with giga impact and hyper beam (scrappy) bc its funny
it was pretty dumb for him to announce he has Haze, the bane of stat-stacking sweepers' existence. thats like announcing you have a loaded gun before you even unholstered it, so your opponent wrestled it away from you and discarded it
Ngl i didn't know magic bounce existed and might've done the same thing because i forget things pretty quickly but i think I'd like to think i have a little more decency than that
To be fair I would be really confused too. He's not really wondering how it was stolen, that's not what happened. What happened was, Lopunny gave Zygarde Assault Vest, using Switcheroo, preventing him from using Haze to remove stat buffs. So what broke him was the fact that Lopunny was holding Assault Vest, and used Switcheroo. Assault Vest prevents non-damage moves, so how could Lopunny use Switcheroo? To other new players like me - Lopunny has Klutz, which disables the effects of held items
The thing is, lopunny and other klutz mon switcheroo cheese has been a thing for a longgggg time, so it doesn't make sense as to how they didn't know that
one thing I really love about these kind of teams is that each pokémon has a role. it's like an orchestra, the build falls apart if every single member isn't there
@@SvartWolf if you dive into dynamax/gigantamax lore, ain't the giant mon thingy a sort of illusion/projection and the actual mon is within it, same size as always?
Not only that, he ANNOUNCED haze as if there was nothing that could be done about it. He could have just opened himself up to a regular Taunt, but nah, he got Switcheroo'd and permanently locked out of status.
If the monster is actively dodging, and a single step or wing flap can take it a body's width away, it makes sense enough. Big target, but big movement.
I just want to say; I have no clue what is going on with the mechanics of this game, but watching you hand people their collective asses again and again has me subscribed and watching all your content. Tyvm for the entertainment.
Like how my guy is sitting here like "i'll just go to +6 Lel" like there's not a very common stored power user about to ohko every mon in front of him.
That one guy kinda had a point with how he thought Dynamax should negate evasion Logically, it would be pretty difficult to miss a large target but this is pokemon so fuck logic
Well clefairy used minimize a lot so she is like a tiny marble, then when she baton pass to sparcey, he is the same size and when he dynamax, he probably got to normal size... soo i guess it still makes sense
I was trying to figure out the reason for the lopunny... Would you mind quickly explaining it to someone wanting to get in to the more tactical pokemon fighting (not just using behemoth blast over and over haha)?
@@123JFree123 okay I just learned this from another comment. Lopunny has an ability called Klutz which disables the ability of held items. So when lopunny used switcheroo and got the assault vest from zygarde, he couldn’t do haze i guess
@@BravePomPom Yeah you're right. Klutz disables the effect of the user's held item, and since the Assault Vest prevents the use of status moves, it's a relatively good way to shut down setup mons and prevent haze and stuff. Then again Taunt on a fast Pokémon also works, but that only shuts down a Pokémon for a short amount of time.
@@BravePomPom You are right. Klutz disables the effects of held itens, like choice scarf that can't Lock in 1 move. With Switcheroo, can give assault vest to oponent and Trick him.
Tbh, I’m surprised it doesn’t. Just the idea that you can somehow dodge or miss with a literal titan of a Mon is just stupid. Balance-wise it’s also kind messed up.
I'm 28 and got Pokémon Yellow when I turned 7 with my first gameboy... never realized how insane Subtitute can be when utilized properly with buffs. Holy crap.
Temp6t: does an exhaustive power boost set up for near 20 turns, meticulously switching and passing stat changes while evading damage in order to create a situation where it would be hard not to win. Naga: brings a team of five legendaries and only uses damaging moves Also Naga: I’m losing, must be hacks.
Only time he did say that was when a loopbunny switch o ru his assult vest. And if you didn’t know how its ability worked and a lot of people Don’t It disables items of the field allowing switch o ru to work
I love how simple it is to just keep stacking buffs untill basically every member of your party becomes unstoppable. Just goes to show these games do require some amount of strategy beyond spamming powerful pokemon
baton pass is potentially one of the most brainless, easily executable strategies, hence its banning outside of ubers. it was very uncounterable, beatable practically only with phasing but magic bounce/ingrain stopped that anyway. it was stupidly oppressive to the point smogon tried to warp the rules around it twice before outright banning it. the strategy in pokemon lies in team building to face to the meta or predictions, double switching, etc.
@@Asch_Ente not sure if "brainless" is the right word to describe it A smart player can beat a brainless baton pass user But if the baton pass trainer is smart.... then it becomes a major problem.. And I think that's the big issue with baton pass BP teams have multiple weaknesses But with careful smart play They can play around or entirety negate their weaknesses
@@camoking3609 its more that *full* baton pass is the issue. One pokemon with baton pass is fair, but an entire team built around it is extremely difficult to stop.
@@Asch_Ente There's also Clear Smog which never misses, and Haze which ignores substitutes. If you think outside the meta you can find many options to counter baton pass.
Happy the last guy saw what you were doing, let you have your fun, and even quipped in good conversation while letting their team get swept by a dunsparce.
"I see we have the same idea" Yes, just the idea, nothing more. This dude buffed his pokemon like he's playing shin megami tensei while you just stand there with nothing.
I think he meant the flinch lock, since a lot of his team would have had Serene Grace to increase the likelihood of flinches from Iron Head and Headbutt, he just couldn't do much with it, being slower.
I assumed, very correctly, that the clefable had unaware. I use an unaware clefable as well, it's really good for baton pass teams. The item can be particular, but personally I use a lum berry as I'm very often attempted countered by hypnosis, toxic, or will-o-wisp. EDIT: also, for those of you wondering, Lopunny has klutz, which negates item effects.
Klutz is amazing for swapping items that lock down things! Like locking into one move or locking out set up moves. I’ve seen tons of struggle teams with choice specs where they switcharoo it and use disable causing the opponent to struggle to death with an added block to keep them in. It’s wild!
Not only did the first dude let you cook, he let you open up a whole restaurant, then let you turn that restaurant into a chain franchise, then let you sell the restaurant chain so you can purchase a different chain of restaurants that specializes in letting you cook.
@@dayko. it’s kinda like a massive part of a good baton pass team. You need a way to lock down haze users for an extended period of time and assault vest trick/switcharoo is permanent.
I thought the strongest Pokemon of all time was an adamant nature, 31 attack IV, 252 attack EV Shuckle after using power trick, and getting plus 6 attack, and getting a 5 turn Roll out!
"How did you switcheroo assault vest" "But it stopped me using rest, haze or glare" Yes, those are all status moves, as is switcheroo. Now, maybe the pokemon has some sort of ability.... Ah yes, klutz. Prevents the effect of held items. Like the status move blocking of assault vest.
Me, not having played pokemon since sun and moon: "wait, how DID he do that?" 15 mins of bulbapedia later: "jesus f-ing christ that's clever!" great videos man, really enjoying you making these seemingly non-meta teams work.
What I love about you is that you show that an understanding of the game is better than going for the norm. It doesn't matter if its OU or not, as long as you understand the game and have synergy, use whatever you think is best. I wish I watched you back when I was in the competitive scene.
Guy says wut r u doin proceeds to use stealth rocks twice on mega diance Edit:guy also doesnt know about klutz is that wut its called idk but it makes item effects not work
When did using evasion boosts in battle become okay/fair? I haven't played since Moon and I only did one play through, so have no idea if it was gen 7 or 8.
The second i saw eevee and latias in the same team i knew exactly what was going to happen. That was my go to strat for long time. I miss it so much. It was the most fun i had with online battles in so long
baton pass is for cowards. - lolxdus :(
i guess i am a MAJOR coward
Maybe a great coward?
You should be ashamed of yourself for fighting unfairly. You hacked and cheated against the greatest players on showdown, taught by Wolfey himself smh
I think your not a coward because to me you use strategy .The toxic and salty kid should blame there selves they don't know how to use strategy.
@@chockshurleyp.landrito616 baton pass duplicated your comment
@@chockshurleyp.landrito616 you duplicated your comment
For a quick callback
"You have 6 legendaries and are losing to a dunsparce."
I loved that
Great quote lmao
That guy must have raged so hard
I wouldn't be surprised if I get sweeped by duns
@@izarreboogieman8624 You could say you got...DUN IN
@@HyotenHyakkaso88 *clap*
I like how the free Naga guy kept saying you were lucky right after he hit a +6 evasion Lopunny three times in a row
Yeah like how dumb is he ? even I who never play pokemon know on how hard it is to hit *2 evasion pokemon.
@@denamikaWatch shit its pretty hard to hit a +1 eva pokemon
@@Mstrskeletor89 it is hard to hit a fireblast
And how he said how switcheroo swapping items with the zygaurd was hacking
@ It is hard to hit a Hi Jump Kick on a +6 evasion Pokemon
3:42 for those who didn't understand, that's including myself, lobunny has the Klutz ability, which means they can't use the effects of items, good or bad. So you cant heal from leftovers, you cant get choice locked, but you dont get the stat boost either.
Usually a useless ability, but being able to switch assault vest is a perk I never noticed.
You can also switcheroo a black sludge onto another pokemon for an unstoppable toxic effect
that was seriously one of the most clever moves I've ever seen
klutz allows for all kinds of nasty trick plays like scarfing or assault vesting walls and supports, or just tossing a flame/toxic orb or black sludge for damage
@@cyberfish6507 Immediately what I thought of when I learned of Klutz’s Existence a few minutes ago
i remember seeing such tactics in yugioh where you leave a monster or other on the opponent's field and having that monster on their field or deck can be detrimental or fatal to the player. Lava golem with 3,000 atk but siphons like 1,000 Life Points and some Parasite card making you lose the game when you draw it cuz the player made their parasite card get forced into your deck by card effect.
Strategy isn't just about buffs but also debuffs or whatever you can do to hurt and cripple your opponent. Temp srsly understands pokemon abilities to the point where he can use the abilities to manipulate item switching between the players cuz why not.
"How does it feel to have the game hold your hand every turn"
Does...does this man not know what the evasion stat does?
Yeah like man is shocked he keeps missing against a mon with like +5 evasion. That’s just the most likely outcome my dude. Though hitting sing first try could be considered lucky but he missed several songs after that so it all evens out
@@huckthatdish its actually +6
If someone said that to me i would be like "Feels pretty good for a change! You should try it!" xD
It could be rare if he actually hit once
@@huckthatdish What was the stuff with the assault vest about? I didn't even know that there's a move to switch items from others in competitive.
For the ones wondering the ability "Klutz" prevents the effect of the hold item so Lopunny could use the move with the assault vest equipped
Thanks, I was wondering this, I'm not exactly very experienced in competitive Pokémon
Huh, I'd never really thought you could use it like that
@@thrkinglion3270 It’s literally all lopunny could do for a few gens
Honestly I had no idea about how that was possible I was so confused
Oh that's so cool and clever!
2:02 - “How did my +6 Zamazenta Behemoth Bash only do 60%?”
Hm, he sounds pretty unaware of what’s going on.
AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY nice
Thanks, now i need anti dad juice
@@missing234 vinegar?
Or almond milk?
Idk why these came to mind thay just did ._.
Ikr for someone whose trying to sound like he knows the game so much just make it even funnier
@@missing234 milk!
I find it hilarious that after the 1st stealth rock was bounced, his immediate thought was "oh, well lemme use it again it'll work the 2nd time"😅
Gotta make shure bro
I've had people use spikes 3 times and stealth rocks against my magic bounce antilead and they don't pay attention that they just set up on themselves while I get my screens up.
Then he said “read” like boy what?!
I know I’m not great at competitive Pokémon but at least I know Im better than these people.
Hes been watching Kanto Ash Ketchum too much
Isai: *spends the last 17 turns using stat boosts*
Naga: "How did that not kill Clefable?! What am I missing?"
To be fair, he was right. He was missing something. Namely that his 6+ attack is actually a 0 attack when used against Clefable. Clefable's unaware makes it so enemy attack up boosts don't work.
@@Aerowind never got the name of that ability being "unaware" like, how does something not affect you if you just don't realize it's there? Seems to me like it would do even more damage if you were unaware XD
@@Aerowind "clefable's *unaware*..." ironic and beautiful xD
@@NotTheDragon837 Maybe it’s like that one Dark Souls build where you have so little intelligence that magic does next to nothing to you.
@@yaboi2500 naw, it’s like that one looney tunes episode. Back when kid Elmer met Kid bugs at the start of Summer Vacation. Bugs led him off a cliff, but he didn’t fallen. He hadn’t studied the Law of Gravity yet. So, Bugs leaves a basic physic’s book for Elmer to find, and he reads up on it. Goes off a cliff again, but this time, he falls.
"HOW AM I MISSING??!!!"
*Enemy has 3x evasion*
"HOW DID I ONLY DEAL 50% DAMAGE?!!?"
*Enemy has 2x Defence*
also unaware ignores his stat boosts lol
So in conclusion the enemy was unaware
It was the ability. He literal had more damage boost than they had defense dude
I have never played Pokémon in my life and even I could see that, just by reading the stat boosts.
@@happyslapsgiving5421 it was clefables unaware ability not the +2 defense. Zamazenta was +6 attack firing off a STAB 100 BP move...
People get so mad when you have all those stat buffs but they just sit there and try to stealth rock diancie for the first like 10 turns, its like theres no cognitive activity at all
This is kind of why I quit competitive Pokemon years ago. I'm here trying to have fun and these salty people just want to shit all over it, especially when I run sets that aren't standard
@@ssessie what
@Jordan Ebanks nothing
@Jordan Ebanks I Said IGNORE IT!
Its gone now so INGORE IT
Do these people think a report is an insta-ban button? What do they expect to happen?
It's mostly them just trying to scare you
It's literally the same as when a karen says they're going to get someone fired, their only recourse for their ego is threatening things they know won't happen so they can live rent-free in your head for a while.
My younger cousin *genuinely* thinks that report = ban.
@@jalkiruokayes2517 Oof, I thought the same when I was younger.
They become high quality content lol
Always love the "gonna report you cheater" when it's just a mildly obscure ability in play.
"If it's not meta, but it wins, it's cheating"
@@Treliordon't forget their definition of "meta" is using basically a full team of legendaries
I love how you can see a clear difference between someone who actually understands the game and someone who thinks they're top shit just because of a legendary.
Baton Pass doesnt exactly need skill either
The second person got extrmely unlucky and just missed like crazy before they had any evasion
@@Name-ru1kt I mean the guy did hit a lot, and even through Max evasion which is INSANE, by the way. It's mainly the fact that legend spammers use the same 2 moves, which is why they're so easy to read.
@@themightykv-5410nobody rlly asked lol
@@Iovebite and? it's the truth after all.
Let’s be honest; the guy with the “weird” team is probably the guy who’s probably gonna wipe the floor with your Pokémon.
Yeah, it is not the guy that copied a meta team that is going to wreck you, it is always the weird ass mofo with a strategy you don't even understand.
I've played exactly one game of showdown. Dude shows up with 2 pokemon, one being level 1. I knew instantly my fate. My whole team was sweeped
The fun part of pkmn showdown is making a awesome team that works not spamming stored power like 5874 other people
yeah true I got sweeped by one common Pokémon I was begging for a tutorial
If I encountered someone with such a bizarre team I reckon the first thing I'd say is 'please have mercy'.
"how did a +6 zamazenta behemoth bash only do 50% to a clefable"
Clefable: "oh sorry, i was UNAWARE that you boosted"
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wait that means canonically mons have to be aware of the boosts for them to be useful???
" How does it feel to have the game hold your hand "
I guess he expects your stacked stat boosts to do nothing, right?
Bro what game is this
@@balendra8720 showdown
@@balendra8720 pokemon showdown
"Goddamn I wonder why my attack "only" deals 50% percent damage to a chansey with defence up"
@@Craeonkie in another comment someone said that chansey also had an ability that ignored enemies +attack, so the guy was also swinging with a +0 and not a +6
for quick reference, he was able to switcheroo with assault vest because of Lopunny's Klutz ability, which renders held items useless.
Thank you! I was so confused about that 😅
@@beastsalamence843 same
Thank you
Thanks for telling us that.
Also does that ability make mega stones useless too?
@@takeda6516 Nope, Klutz doesn't effect mega stones, and I don't think they effect Z-moves either.
I like how the people with actual teams just forfeited, knowing your gimmick and no way to counter it.
You can counter Baton Pass though and it isn't exactly anything new or impressive of him to do
@@themightykv-5410 yea most of those people probably didn’t pack any taunt or support to clear gimmicks like those out.
@@themightykv-5410 Wow, it’s crazy that things in a game have counters. I can’t imagine that. I’ve only played games where there is one meta that can never be beaten at all, and every time I play everyone ties. You’re telling me that you can counter baton pass? Surely you jest! That’s impossible!
@@Aeternus75 marshadow with spectral thief is a beast for stat boost strats
Haze???
Sometimes I wonder if the first dude knows what evasion means. Like what did they expect from a Pokémon with *3x evasion* .
he should have dynamaxed his pokemons and then use that can't miss moves on him
@@npc4416 Zamazenta can't do that for lore reasons but I do agree that he should've switched to something that can.
@@GoinGreninja wait, why can’t Zacian and Zamazenta Dynamax
He deserves much worse just by letting someone set up on him.
@@tangerinepaint3643 because in the plot their existence is against dynamaxing.
That Klutz Switchroo with the Assault Vest was fucking perfect. That guy really set himself up to get kicked in the teeth announcing the Haze.
it wasn’t just a kick in the teeth, it was a slow, painful extraction of each tooth via pliers followed by the insertion of screws into the gums, which were then allowed to rust within his mouth to give him tetanus and stop his cold, dead heart.
I should try that and see how it goes
“Attention opposing player I have earth power and am going to click it, please go into Heatran expecting ice beam”
@@potatobird52 rust has nothing to do with tetanus
@@zebragoboom I’m aware, just that tetanus is stereotypically associated with rusty nails so I went with it
@@potatobird52 this is good
Can i say that i really liked the guy that was like “I’ll let you have your fun :)” and a little afterwards with the “oh i see we both had the same idea!” With the scerene grace mons? I just think that was nice
“How does it feel to have the game hold your hand every turn?”
Evasion stat: Pretty good honestly!
I like how each mon baton passed it to another for another stat boost, shit was like one for all lmao
Man I need to catch up on BNHA
Ye this was like a chess GM playing as all the pieces worked together.
@@kirbyknifeman2877 The Evoboost into a latios would have been enough to sweep. He was playing with his food at that point.
More like all for one the mega lord Dunsparce
Baton Pass teams are so much fun. I remember having a good time on Gen 6 OU with one, but then a rule or something prevented Baton Pass on more than one Pokémon so I kinda stopped playing. Power Trip got me excited though
"Read"
But Naga did not read, for he could not read. It was a skill he did not possess.
He should have finished his elementary degree in school. Too bad.
This is why you stay in school, kids.
I can’t lie I do think it’s silly that a 60 foot dynamaxed pokemon still has evasion
*v*
Dynamax as a whole is just silly
It's not actually that big, but is something like a projection of energy or something. That's why weight moves don't work.
@@stego7782 nah, still better than z-moves
the opponent should have also dynamaxed his pokemons tbh
because that will give him new moves which have can't miss
I think it would be funny to somehow sweep a team with bidoofs
Bidoofs on top
It’s already be done with 1 bidoof m8, same for bibarel
Rollout
i did in balanced hackmons gen 7...
i baton passed between blissey(prankster) arceus(simple) and scizor (flash fire) and boosted everything then baton pass to bidoof amd sweep with giga impact and hyper beam (scrappy) bc its funny
@@You-hp3rl noob
I'm just laughing how the first guy didn't realize lopunny has an ability that ignores items affects 🤣
Ngl if someone didn't mention it in the comments I would've still been as confused as the other guy
Swoobat can also pull a similar tactic,, except that it's Trick rather than Switcheroo, but then again Trick & Switcheroo are just the same anyway
Guy's like him know only the ability's of legendary's or probably even that not. 😆 🤣
Exactly man, I came here as confused as he was
i mean you can't blame him, it's a pretty obscure ability
Funny thing is, if the first guy didn’t reveal haze Zygarde before doing it, he probably could’ve stopped the sweep
Right?? Why would someone DO that???
@@gabeskai classic anime fight 🤣
😂
he was prolly too salty to think that thru
it was pretty dumb for him to announce he has Haze, the bane of stat-stacking sweepers' existence. thats like announcing you have a loaded gun before you even unholstered it, so your opponent wrestled it away from you and discarded it
"I'll gladly go to +6 then"
How kind kind of him to reveal his plan
And his using howl instead of swords dance
@@FatCrowOnAStick Zamazenta can't learn Swords Dance
@@transorm987 ok my bad
@@FatCrowOnAStick No worries
@@transorm987 Oh yeah that makes sense now. I didn’t know that and assumed he was just a dumbass
That Lopunny "Klutz/Assault Vest/Switcheroo" combo felt like a dramatic plot twist in a move.
I was thinking of the uno reverse
I find it really funny that 2 people instantly forfeited because there spore/toxic spikes got reflected
Those are probably the smartest ones in this video 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ramteja1550 they knew they were being trolled.
Tbf the one with toxic spikes just got 4 or 5 mons invalidated with that play since they were using a FEAR team mostly.
"My one and only win condition reflected! Time to leave"
That happened to me today with the same poke and in chat he said omg I give up and left mega diance makes me happy
"What are you even doing?"
Uses stealth rock on magic bounce. Twice.
Ngl i didn't know magic bounce existed and might've done the same thing because i forget things pretty quickly but i think I'd like to think i have a little more decency than that
@@stovebot4280 the game kinda tells you though tbf
Do you mean pokemon showdown tells you it will activate or are you talking about the message appearing saying (whatever pokemon's) magic bounce
I have never played it btw
Probably predicting switch
God the "D'OH I MISSED" never gets old, it gets a chuckle out of me every time
Thats German. Wario was considered german at that time, so his voiceactor says: "So ein Mist". Which means Something like "oh crap"
@@HauntedViper ohh I remember that! along with him also saying "oh my god!" that wasn't used in some places
Homie still trying to figure out how his assault vest was stolen
It's one of this things I wouldn't even consider klutz as an ability i would want, now this. This gives me ideas for the future
To be fair I would be really confused too. He's not really wondering how it was stolen, that's not what happened. What happened was, Lopunny gave Zygarde Assault Vest, using Switcheroo, preventing him from using Haze to remove stat buffs.
So what broke him was the fact that Lopunny was holding Assault Vest, and used Switcheroo. Assault Vest prevents non-damage moves, so how could Lopunny use Switcheroo?
To other new players like me - Lopunny has Klutz, which disables the effects of held items
The thing is, lopunny and other klutz mon switcheroo cheese has been a thing for a longgggg time, so it doesn't make sense as to how they didn't know that
@@AnnauraK Thanks for the explanation!!
@@thesoulknight8377 most people forget what abilities like klutz do as they are rarely used and only ever in specific cheese circumstances
Magic bounce: exists
This guy: I'm gonna pretend I didnt see that
*proceeds to repeat last move*
one thing I really love about these kind of teams is that each pokémon has a role. it's like an orchestra, the build falls apart if every single member isn't there
that last guy did have a point, how does evasion work when your pokemon is fucking massive when dynamaxed
Magic
ultra instinct.
Maybe a max minimized gygantanax is just twice as big (still pocket sized)
Behold! My mountain of terror! *tiny cute growls*
@@SvartWolf if you dive into dynamax/gigantamax lore, ain't the giant mon thingy a sort of illusion/projection and the actual mon is within it, same size as always?
Better question: how does evasion work when your pokemon is asleep?
Evasion + Rest shouldn't work xD
Lol so he had haze the entire time but sat there with Chansey and Zamazenta like that was a good idea getting his stealth rocks reflected back at him.
Not only that, he ANNOUNCED haze as if there was nothing that could be done about it. He could have just opened himself up to a regular Taunt, but nah, he got Switcheroo'd and permanently locked out of status.
The last guy had a point, can you imagine a pokemon the size of a building evading a giant fireball?
If the monster is actively dodging, and a single step or wing flap can take it a body's width away, it makes sense enough.
Big target, but big movement.
Old kaiju movies and the whole ultraman series in a nutshell
Last dude was chill tho lol
that assault vest switch has to be the smartest thing i’ve ever seen
Hey, at least that last guy was a man of culture, sorta. Instead of raging, he was like "oh, you had the same idea. Well played"
I just want to say; I have no clue what is going on with the mechanics of this game, but watching you hand people their collective asses again and again has me subscribed and watching all your content. Tyvm for the entertainment.
I'm sure you have a better grasp on the mechanics than these salt mines.
In resume: Several stat buffs + Strategy > Uga Buga big legendary go brrrrrrrr
I sure hope thesr strats are applicable in PVE
Might be hard to breed, find the mons and whatnot
Love how they didn't just telegraph what they're gonna do next; they just straight up told you.
It was like watching villains in shows.
Villain: explains plan
Hero: uses that to shut them down
Villain: shocked pikachu face :O
Like how my guy is sitting here like "i'll just go to +6 Lel" like there's not a very common stored power user about to ohko every mon in front of him.
Wondering why did he think he could tank through stored power/psyshock latias even if that wasn't his set.
"I'll gladly go to plus 6"
Why yes so will he...only he has 4 other stat boosts... and baton pass
As wise man once said, "you have no power here"
With a dunsparce no less. Dude just asked to be swept
I love how he threw stealth rocks into magic bounce, then proceeded to attempt it a total of 4 times in the same match.
That one guy kinda had a point with how he thought Dynamax should negate evasion
Logically, it would be pretty difficult to miss a large target
but this is pokemon so fuck logic
I can capture God inside of a tiny red bouncy ball
Logic and pokemon don't mix
Well clefairy used minimize a lot so she is like a tiny marble, then when she baton pass to sparcey, he is the same size and when he dynamax, he probably got to normal size... soo i guess it still makes sense
Logically grooving shouldn't make you stronger than some gods that exist but swords and quiver dance exist anyways
Just like it’d be difficult to miss a small target with a big attack. But apparently it don’t work vice versa lol
To be fair, it took me a good while to realize he had a klutz lopunny
I was trying to figure out the reason for the lopunny... Would you mind quickly explaining it to someone wanting to get in to the more tactical pokemon fighting (not just using behemoth blast over and over haha)?
@@123JFree123 okay I just learned this from another comment. Lopunny has an ability called Klutz which disables the ability of held items. So when lopunny used switcheroo and got the assault vest from zygarde, he couldn’t do haze i guess
@@BravePomPom Yeah you're right. Klutz disables the effect of the user's held item, and since the Assault Vest prevents the use of status moves, it's a relatively good way to shut down setup mons and prevent haze and stuff.
Then again Taunt on a fast Pokémon also works, but that only shuts down a Pokémon for a short amount of time.
@@BravePomPom awesome!! Thanks so much! The gigabrain on some of these plays is just so cool haha
@@BravePomPom You are right. Klutz disables the effects of held itens, like choice scarf that can't Lock in 1 move. With Switcheroo, can give assault vest to oponent and Trick him.
casual “person who thinks people need a zacian on their team to win” moment
casual "being a skilled player with a strategy = sad cringe" moment
Zacian is a good mon but definitely has a counter
It's not Gen. 1 Mewtwo.
8:50 No, no, he has a point
honestly, yeah. its kind dumb it doesn't.
the guy just wen "I am fucked but that shit do be OP"
Tbh, I’m surprised it doesn’t. Just the idea that you can somehow dodge or miss with a literal titan of a Mon is just stupid. Balance-wise it’s also kind messed up.
Its big but its actually only an afterimage after evasion kicks in
Been saying this for some long after my a win was snatched away due to missing a maxed mon
Subbed just because of how chill you are, bro. Love the “gg” after they rage at you for ages haha. Classy individual.
I’m pretty sure he just does it to rile them up for more content, not to be classy.
9:00 I don't know about you guys, but I found so satisfying to see Togekiss being paraflinched. It was like "You get what you deserve". 😹
Yeah to be fair I did deserve that
Yeah
Togekiss but again*
"what are you even doing"
and then setting Stealth Rocks twice against magic bouncer
Also whirlwinds a
I'm 28 and got Pokémon Yellow when I turned 7 with my first gameboy... never realized how insane Subtitute can be when utilized properly with buffs. Holy crap.
ngl the Wario “doh I missed” gets me rolling every single time
That one guy did kind of have a point about the evasion and dynamax thing lmao
Temp6t: does an exhaustive power boost set up for near 20 turns, meticulously switching and passing stat changes while evading damage in order to create a situation where it would be hard not to win.
Naga: brings a team of five legendaries and only uses damaging moves
Also Naga: I’m losing, must be hacks.
Only time he did say that was when a loopbunny switch o ru his assult vest. And if you didn’t know how its ability worked and a lot of people Don’t
It disables items of the field allowing switch o ru to work
Im gonna point out that the guy only noticed the assault vest when he got switcheroo'd but not the times he used cosmic power
Wait, but aren’t held items not shown in game?
Yeah! I now found out lol.
But like, why would he give it Run Away then?
"I'm gonna haze and end this" gets dropped on his head by the assault vest switcheroo "wot"
3:06 (opponent has 33.3% accuracy and hits it twice) he misses it once and calls him the “luckiest mf on the site”
That guy with the two togekisses deserved so much more than to be ruthlessly slaughtered lmao
I love how simple it is to just keep stacking buffs untill basically every member of your party becomes unstoppable.
Just goes to show these games do require some amount of strategy beyond spamming powerful pokemon
baton pass is potentially one of the most brainless, easily executable strategies, hence its banning outside of ubers. it was very uncounterable, beatable practically only with phasing but magic bounce/ingrain stopped that anyway.
it was stupidly oppressive to the point smogon tried to warp the rules around it twice before outright banning it.
the strategy in pokemon lies in team building to face to the meta or predictions, double switching, etc.
@@Asch_Ente not sure if "brainless" is the right word to describe it
A smart player can beat a brainless baton pass user
But if the baton pass trainer is smart.... then it becomes a major problem..
And I think that's the big issue with baton pass
BP teams have multiple weaknesses
But with careful smart play
They can play around or entirety negate their weaknesses
@@camoking3609 its more that *full* baton pass is the issue. One pokemon with baton pass is fair, but an entire team built around it is extremely difficult to stop.
@@Asch_Ente wouldn’t unaware negate the bonuses that get transferred from baton pass?
@@Asch_Ente There's also Clear Smog which never misses, and Haze which ignores substitutes. If you think outside the meta you can find many options to counter baton pass.
Happy the last guy saw what you were doing, let you have your fun, and even quipped in good conversation while letting their team get swept by a dunsparce.
"I see we have the same idea"
Yes, just the idea, nothing more. This dude buffed his pokemon like he's playing shin megami tensei while you just stand there with nothing.
*Jirachi used Iron Head*
I think he meant the flinch lock, since a lot of his team would have had Serene Grace to increase the likelihood of flinches from Iron Head and Headbutt, he just couldn't do much with it, being slower.
Right? Temp hit em with masukukaja, marakukaja, and matarukaja and the nigga still sitting there like "OOoOh ur sO lUcKY!!!1"
@@DopeioThePhoneBoi Myriad Truths go brr
@@DopeioThePhoneBoi can't forget revolution for that crit boost
“How’d you use switcheroo with assault vest?” Clearly somebody doesn’t know that lopunny has Klutz
I assumed, very correctly, that the clefable had unaware. I use an unaware clefable as well, it's really good for baton pass teams. The item can be particular, but personally I use a lum berry as I'm very often attempted countered by hypnosis, toxic, or will-o-wisp.
EDIT: also, for those of you wondering, Lopunny has klutz, which negates item effects.
As someone who's favorite pokemon is Dunsparce, I'm very happy to see a Dunsparce sweep
dunsparce supremacy
Have you ever played Pokemon Uranium?
Dunsparce has OP evolution
I feel like this game is the ultimate test of your pokemon buff knowledge and how they interact with each other.
4:34 it's weird to seen an zacian killed and the "Wroro shaggy" doesn't playing
You found an actual use for klutz, insane
Also useful to swap over a Choice item! Lock down an opposing mon to one move per switch-in.
Klutz is amazing for swapping items that lock down things! Like locking into one move or locking out set up moves. I’ve seen tons of struggle teams with choice specs where they switcharoo it and use disable causing the opponent to struggle to death with an added block to keep them in. It’s wild!
It’s not exactly new, but this is the first time I’ve seen it on this channel
Felix brings out a good point on the evasion with Dynamax.
Not only did the first dude let you cook, he let you open up a whole restaurant, then let you turn that restaurant into a chain franchise, then let you sell the restaurant chain so you can purchase a different chain of restaurants that specializes in letting you cook.
Can you actually use switcheroo with assault vest? Never knew that. That guy was salty af though. 3x Evasion and he calls you lucky lmao
It was due to an ability called Klutz. It negates the effects of held items. So, that's why Lopunny was able to Switcheroo it.
@@VenkataB123 Thanks for explaining that to me. Didn't know about that ability.
@@dayko. No problem at all!! 👍🙂
@@dayko. it’s kinda like a massive part of a good baton pass team. You need a way to lock down haze users for an extended period of time and assault vest trick/switcharoo is permanent.
@@ultimaterecoil1136 Yep. Its only use over the normal way is that you don't have to keep switching in your Taunter.
Dunsparce is the strongest mon of all time
As a dunsparce lover i can approve this fact
Always has been
Exactly
I thought the strongest Pokemon of all time was an adamant nature, 31 attack IV, 252 attack EV Shuckle after using power trick, and getting plus 6 attack, and getting a 5 turn Roll out!
@@DKQuagmire nah its still dunsparce but the pokemon that is the strongest next to dunsparce is dunsparce Serene Grace glare dunsparce
"How did you switcheroo assault vest"
"But it stopped me using rest, haze or glare"
Yes, those are all status moves, as is switcheroo. Now, maybe the pokemon has some sort of ability....
Ah yes, klutz. Prevents the effect of held items. Like the status move blocking of assault vest.
People inability to deal with buffs is the reason why Pokemon players don't handle smt well
Or any other rpg where your enemies stat play is on point.
I mean he did have answers, they just got countered, AV zygarde and magic bounce whirlwind
Red card?
Taunt?
Roar?
Clear smog?
Just watch some high ladder play and realize not all pokemon players r this dumb...
@@BudgetNugsHe got all the counter measure already: Magic Bounce 😅 for Roar, Whirlwind, Taunt,...
Substitue and those Evasiveness buff for Clear Smog.
"Baton pass is for cowards"... yes only scaredy-cats use their brains in a video game
Yep
Guess using brain is against the rules.
Well, whatever, I never used mine anyway.
Currently pissing myself in fear
It’s honestly a poor strategy that won’t work against decent opponents
"only cowards need to use brains because they use it to flee, fighting is superior because you actually win"
that sonic adventure 2 battle soundtrack is still an absolute banger like 20 years later lol
"Baton pass is for cowards." ~proceeds to rage-quit~
So....what does that make him again?
A coward 😂
Maybe Duobo is a coward but that guy is a cowardly loser
Me, not having played pokemon since sun and moon: "wait, how DID he do that?"
15 mins of bulbapedia later: "jesus f-ing christ that's clever!"
great videos man, really enjoying you making these seemingly non-meta teams work.
What I love about you is that you show that an understanding of the game is better than going for the norm. It doesn't matter if its OU or not, as long as you understand the game and have synergy, use whatever you think is best. I wish I watched you back when I was in the competitive scene.
Magic Bounce is such a godsend to have on my team, thank you Espeon for the light clay magic bounce setups
“Baton pass is for cowards”
Said the one who switched in a Blaziken over Lopunny for obvious type advantage and to top it off, forfeited
"The bak'tag didn't like the way we danced. HAH!"
9:04 "I see we have the same idea" taste of his own flinch medicin...
“How you this lucky and use cheats” I dunno do you see all the buffs he had? Pretty much every stat was x3 or x4
Guy says wut r u doin proceeds to use stealth rocks twice on mega diance
Edit:guy also doesnt know about klutz is that wut its called idk but it makes item effects not work
Yeah it's klutz
Yeah it's klutz
@@BroadcastingCN just remembered and already got told
God I was puzzling over how Lopunny switched the Vest and then Klutz just randomly popped into my head. You mad genius.
Dynamic punch on a Jirachi
*New meta*
actually he was trying to use his blunder policy which lopunny switched
@@sajidahmad4961 oh... I dint pay much attention to the vid lol
@@izarreboogieman8624 LMAO
@@sajidahmad4961 ya i noticed that too... its actually a cool set
200% chance to confuse target bro
Always coming in with the great music.
Yes
>"How's it feel to have the game hold your hand every turn?"
>x3 Evasion
That assault vest play was NASTY.
I love Klutz Lopunny. For some reason, people forget she has that ability lol
That’s what makes most off meta things so powerful, it’s the fact they’re off meta/unknown
The second guy is the definition of “just hit it, it’ll die”
I’m a simple man. I see a non-mega lopunny get used effectively, I like
Mans so stuck in ubers he didn't know about Unaware and Klutz, at least he took quite the tumble back to Earth
My man u wiped him with a dunsparce at the end, that's a subscription
The switcheroo lopunny and his response made me audibly laugh 😂😭
When someone uses minimize, take a Pokémon with body slam
When did using evasion boosts in battle become okay/fair? I haven't played since Moon and I only did one play through, so have no idea if it was gen 7 or 8.
@@kyleellis9177 Its anything goes where theres no bans
@@kyleellis9177 it’s actually only usable in anything goes and it still is banned in Uber and the other tiers
Honestly, when I see a team setup like this, I know I'm about to lose
Yep
The second i saw eevee and latias in the same team i knew exactly what was going to happen. That was my go to strat for long time. I miss it so much. It was the most fun i had with online battles in so long
"Where's Zacian switchin?"
"Where's your Dunsparce switchin?"