Cheesing? This is what's considered cheesing now? You can prevent instant sparks unless your opponent sets it up properly, which they didn't most of the time... I'm just S rank in dp battles but that is probably least cheesy fight I've seen. Your opponent is in very disadvantageous position by playing just two characters, even if they are strong.
@@TKLimitlessto be fair bro it's DP battles. He had 2 characters you had 4, 2 of your characters could insta spark as well I don't see what you're complaining about. If it is was SSJ Vegito or yajirobe then sure I'd agree but in general his match up vs yours was fair
Never said it wasn’t fair, just incredibly annoying to play against. Yes, I could have sat there and insta sparked every chance I got, probably would have destroyed him if I did. It’s just not fun or respectable imo
I get what youre saying brotha, im a Z Rank, highest rated Goten on PS5, and he 100% cheesed, just because hes bad at the game, doesnt mean his intention wasnt to use OP characters with insta sparking... nontheless its a mechanic that you have to learn to counter, be thankful he threw hands, as you get higher in rank, they tend to stay back, be more defensive and ki blast alot more, 10x more frustrating to deal with than a square spamming insta-sparker
Appreciate you for understanding. I probably should adapt, complaining isn’t doing anything for me lol. Thanks for the heads up, and congrats on #1 Goten in the world. That’s mad impressive!
There’s a bug where if you side step close to your opponent you will just stay in front of them. It fucks me over every time cause there’s combo potential with side stepping but I go nowhere sometimes
@phsycicflame I mean as of right now there aren't many things that even work in this game. The game still doesn't allow me to switch characters or power up
A major tip I think you need is to actually pay attention to if you have ki advantage or not. As a kid buu main I always make sure to have more ki than my opponent due to my easy counter able moves. And since super counter is so spammable it always helps
@ also more tips, you shouldn’t be going on the aggressive when someone has sparking mode. Be defensive and knock them away with quick combos. Also you need to cover your dragon dashes with Charged ki blasts. I’m in S2 so if you learn these you’ll climb a lot faster. Or you could learn the hard way when you fight people with a brain
@@forsaken7752 your probably right, tbh I was just being super aggressive to scare him out of randomly trying to go insta spark. Didn’t really work tho lol
@@TKLimitlessand one other small tip that you might know is instant transmission breaks lock on so if you see anyone spamming sparking mode then js use instant transmission and run
This guy right here looks like he also mains Beerus or Gogeta GT. He does exactly the same type of playstyle players tend to have with those characters. We all know they use those characters because of that sole reason ofc.
Honestly, singles is not far from this. I hit Z rank with Super Broly. And the amount of Cheesy same picked characters has me so mad. I am taking a hiatus from the game until the devs decide to fix their shit mess of a game. Upside is, I may have lost my Z rank but among all the other Super Broly's. I was the FIRST to hit Z rank on pc. And I have nearly 1k wins on him.
Being 1st to hit Z rank is mad impressive, good shit. I was thinking about using singles as practice for my dp series. If it is the same it sounds like good practice to me lol
It's funny how people play base gogeta cause he's more corny than blue gogeta. I barely see blue gogeta in ranked. But I appreciate players like this cause they kinda forced me to punish instant sparks which helped me alot in ranked
@TKLimitless There's only 2 types of gogeta mains. The ones who transform and most likely isn't too cheesy or the ones who stay in base solely just to cheese.
This game made me hate Gogeta and is not even funny, he used to be one of my favourite characters. The way Gogeta players spam Final Kamehameha is absolutely ridiculous
@@TKLimitless Damn, that’s too bad I was looking for someone to train with on this game, also some tips with dealing with fusions/spark fiends is to be very aggressive and not let them do anything, just stay in their face and bait them into a perception or play footsies with them until you find an opening.
@TKLimitless I wish I knew lol I think this game needs some scientific players to analyse how this kinda thing works in detail, when they're done explaining how to do super counter 🤣 anyway good gameplay man 👍
You get 1 skill point every time you lose a bar of health. It’s a comeback mechanic for when you are getting cooked. Of course, people would abuse this with characters with AIS and IS. @TKLimitless
bro if using instant sparking is being a rat for you, wait till you see the goku MUI ult spammers, the Broly spammers, the afterimage strike spammers, the androids, etc... instant sparking is actually legit compared to what i just mentionned
Yo are you on PlayStation because I’d love to spar with you and give some tips because watching you lose to this guy was unbearable, with way he’s playing he’s staying in B rank
@@TKLimitless I actually uninstalled the game - I feel like Ranked is the best way to hop into a quick game (playing unranked takes SOO long just to match, or to queue up - Ranked is pretty much instant) but the game has become SOOO sweaty even at B5 rank. Just not fun, it's mostly just full of bullshit like you got on your video. F
@@iRazorTV i’m just holding onto the hope that the upcoming patches can fix a lot of the issues. Hopefully unranked can get matching like ranked does, but yeah games not in a great state rn
If you want to prevent ults try using characters with shield abilities. Like the androids, and if your really desperate gogeta blue he has instant transmission and shield ability you can use both skills to avoid ults. Use any Gokus with instant transmission to keep a eye on the enemy
@ honestly just rewatch your own video. If you are going to get somebody who is spamming something keep applying pressure. You let him breathe the way too many times like it’s absurd how many times you let him get some space.
@@flux5387 true, I was hoping he’d drop the sparking and try and go on the offensive. Not sure why since he proved very early on that he won’t push until he was in sparking mode. Thanks for the tip, I’ll keep it in mind next time I face someone like them
You gon have a hard time in S+ if this is cheese to you. This isn’t cheese. You’re just too aggressive against people that are in sparking mode. Always have the block ready. The first game he just dashed to you then used ult twice. The second time he did it was obvious as hell too. His sparking mode is almost done so most people will try to use their ult. I also noticed that in your rank ya’ll just hold down the o button. Stop doing that
Good games bro. You coulda made it a bit easier on yourself playing certain scenarios differently but ggs. As an honorable Gogeta main, we do not condone this.
@ you wasn’t forced to use 4 either, if im facing 4 or more I would spam instant spark for sure. You have goku black with instant transmission play around it lmao
Exactly neither of us were forced, so why is he justified to spam. Using insta spark is fine, but bro was using it like it was his newest addiction lol
lmao bro you deadass could have won the game by stalling until the timer runs out since it’s 4v2 but that’s would have been lame fair play fighting against him. as a z rank watching this from experience really predictable to beat him, easy. but u gonna improve and get better to counter theese bs for sure
@ you expect him to just let his skill counters sit there? Do you let yours? If so stop doing that use your skills to their fullest advantage and counters and such
@@vincam2628 there are other ways to use skill counters other than insta spark. Z-counters, perception, he never even bothered to proc wild sense or transform until the end lol. My problem is he never did anything else, it’s clear he was trying to go for easy wins with ults rather than fight.
well it was 4 to 2 and that’s fine y’all can pick whoever you want but on your end I seen trunks who has an insta spark afterimage a unblockable ult and a unblockable charge ki blast. Videl being able to use a super for 2 bars back to back that can hit for like 15k on top of afterimage strike and a insta spark but she is easy to kill. Adult gohan is also a iffy pick depend on who use him bc he has wild sense and that can be an issue if spammed along with his strike super. Goku black high tier character with wild sense and a very good move kit very easy to use and he has instant transmission when he transforms. Now the other dude may look like the underdog but instant sparking the whole time and just throwing ults is insane I understand him being down 2 characters but insta sparking the whole time is crazy then using ui goku is crazy too bc he has auto dodge and wildsense and an insta spark.
As a gogeta fan i do not condone this behaviour
Same I only use gogeta blue because of the shield and instant transmission what’s the fun in using base gogeta?
I like to start in base just so I can get the boost when I transform
I honestly don’t know what people were expecting in ranked.
I lowkey expected it, still got me heated tho lol
Cheesing? This is what's considered cheesing now? You can prevent instant sparks unless your opponent sets it up properly, which they didn't most of the time... I'm just S rank in dp battles but that is probably least cheesy fight I've seen. Your opponent is in very disadvantageous position by playing just two characters, even if they are strong.
I’m in B rank and this is the cheesiest thing I’ve played so far, not looking forward to S if this isn’t that bad to you lol
@@TKLimitlessto be fair bro it's DP battles. He had 2 characters you had 4, 2 of your characters could insta spark as well I don't see what you're complaining about. If it is was SSJ Vegito or yajirobe then sure I'd agree but in general his match up vs yours was fair
Never said it wasn’t fair, just incredibly annoying to play against. Yes, I could have sat there and insta sparked every chance I got, probably would have destroyed him if I did. It’s just not fun or respectable imo
@@TKLimitlessjust wait till you get to a full team of after image strike 😔
@@Stinkychimp-500 I’m really not looking forward to it lol
This isnt cheesing, this is just tryharding without having the skill to back it up.
Ive never seen this many people complain like (b)itches over feature in the game(sparking mode) since tekken 8 introduced the heat system.
I get what youre saying brotha, im a Z Rank, highest rated Goten on PS5, and he 100% cheesed, just because hes bad at the game, doesnt mean his intention wasnt to use OP characters with insta sparking... nontheless its a mechanic that you have to learn to counter, be thankful he threw hands, as you get higher in rank, they tend to stay back, be more defensive and ki blast alot more, 10x more frustrating to deal with than a square spamming insta-sparker
Appreciate you for understanding. I probably should adapt, complaining isn’t doing anything for me lol. Thanks for the heads up, and congrats on #1 Goten in the world. That’s mad impressive!
@TKLimitless thank you, also you earned a new sub, I love content like this
dont hold perception for too long and side step more then youll be good
There’s a bug where if you side step close to your opponent you will just stay in front of them. It fucks me over every time cause there’s combo potential with side stepping but I go nowhere sometimes
@phsycicflame I mean as of right now there aren't many things that even work in this game. The game still doesn't allow me to switch characters or power up
Appreciate the tips, gotta take all I can get if I wanna hit z rank
Not only the dragon ball sz comunity, all the gaming cominity is like that nowadays
That’s a shame, guess I gotta get use to it then
Cant even ay my favorite game no more... they ruined it. Hate the players not the game
Let’s hope they bring some good changes next patch
A major tip I think you need is to actually pay attention to if you have ki advantage or not. As a kid buu main I always make sure to have more ki than my opponent due to my easy counter able moves. And since super counter is so spammable it always helps
I’ll start paying attention to that, I usually lose vanish wars because of my lack of Ki. Thanks for the tip!
@ also more tips, you shouldn’t be going on the aggressive when someone has sparking mode. Be defensive and knock them away with quick combos. Also you need to cover your dragon dashes with Charged ki blasts. I’m in S2 so if you learn these you’ll climb a lot faster. Or you could learn the hard way when you fight people with a brain
@@forsaken7752 your probably right, tbh I was just being super aggressive to scare him out of randomly trying to go insta spark. Didn’t really work tho lol
@@TKLimitlessand one other small tip that you might know is instant transmission breaks lock on so if you see anyone spamming sparking mode then js use instant transmission and run
@Dayeeet thats a good idea, guess I gotta start practicing with a Goku. Appreciate the tip!
he cheesing like he’s one game before Z rank😭 ridiculous
😂
Bro very good matches, I genuinely enjoyed watching them
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the vid!
Sorry to tell you. He was actually the underdog in this fight! And it’s not close.
Bruh his opponent was so bad it’s not even funny
You think so? Mind explaining
@@TKLimitless me or scrubzero?
@@crispygamer1355 Scrubzero, 100% agree with what you said
This guy right here looks like he also mains Beerus or Gogeta GT. He does exactly the same type of playstyle players tend to have with those characters. We all know they use those characters because of that sole reason ofc.
Honestly, singles is not far from this. I hit Z rank with Super Broly. And the amount of Cheesy same picked characters has me so mad. I am taking a hiatus from the game until the devs decide to fix their shit mess of a game. Upside is, I may have lost my Z rank but among all the other Super Broly's. I was the FIRST to hit Z rank on pc. And I have nearly 1k wins on him.
Being 1st to hit Z rank is mad impressive, good shit. I was thinking about using singles as practice for my dp series. If it is the same it sounds like good practice to me lol
It's funny how people play base gogeta cause he's more corny than blue gogeta. I barely see blue gogeta in ranked. But I appreciate players like this cause they kinda forced me to punish instant sparks which helped me alot in ranked
Gogeta mains are soo annoying. Abusing insta spark and wild sense. They rely on it soo much that they never leave base form. It's honestly pathetic.
Not all Gogeta mains are like this, but the ones that are, are definitely super annoying
@TKLimitless There's only 2 types of gogeta mains. The ones who transform and most likely isn't too cheesy or the ones who stay in base solely just to cheese.
True
At 1st I like, "Nothing really."
Until,
😂I seen UI Goku!
9:48 The ammount of times this has happen to me is beyond dumb. It happens too often with Trunks full power and Super Vegeta.
This game made me hate Gogeta and is not even funny, he used to be one of my favourite characters. The way Gogeta players spam Final Kamehameha is absolutely ridiculous
I still like the character, certain people who use him just piss me off lol
As a gogeta main I approve the cheese😂😂😂
Bruh
W Vid bro, Do you play on ps or pc?
Thanks, I’m on ps
@@TKLimitless Damn, that’s too bad I was looking for someone to train with on this game, also some tips with dealing with fusions/spark fiends is to be very aggressive and not let them do anything, just stay in their face and bait them into a perception or play footsies with them until you find an opening.
@ that’s a shame, was looking forward to playing some friendlies. Appreciate the tips, I definitely need to work on my side step and baiting game
These players are also the same Xenoverse 2 tryhards lol
You just ate the ults man. You gotta try to vanish them
Edit: you had the first game. You just have to improve dodging ults and practice mixups.
@@migelo4705 yeah, my vanish timing or ults needs a lot of work lol
Still better than those noob spammers who only use Rekoom and Master Roshi
Never seen a more true title lol
I prefer dealing with that vs someone who has a team of 5 and runs/spams the whole fight
True, they really gotta increase the time limit in dp
3:09 how the hell did he get another stock so quick!? He went up to 3 then jumped to 4 in a second
Never notice that, I got no idea
@TKLimitless I wish I knew lol I think this game needs some scientific players to analyse how this kinda thing works in detail, when they're done explaining how to do super counter 🤣 anyway good gameplay man 👍
@@remylebeau34 😂 too true, thanks!
You get 1 skill point every time you lose a bar of health. It’s a comeback mechanic for when you are getting cooked.
Of course, people would abuse this with characters with AIS and IS.
@TKLimitless
By damage. Vanish. Blocks. Preception. You skill bar will fill up faster
bro if using instant sparking is being a rat for you, wait till you see the goku MUI ult spammers, the Broly spammers, the afterimage strike spammers, the androids, etc... instant sparking is actually legit compared to what i just mentionned
I ain’t ready for all that LMAO, I gotta get back into training mode from the sound of it
crazy good editing
Thanks!
Yo are you on PlayStation because I’d love to spar with you and give some tips because watching you lose to this guy was unbearable, with way he’s playing he’s staying in B rank
@@solidtok3nn770 yeah I’m on ps, what’s your user? Would love to get some practice in
You have trunks but didnt use step in on vanish war?
Didn’t know that was a thing, I’ll have to look into it
@@TKLimitless sword trunks can cancel any vanish with a step in, check it out
i really stopped playing rankings, the old Btk3 rages came back wow i thought i growed but F No!
Can’t blame you, hope the update in December changes a lot of the games issues
@@TKLimitless I actually uninstalled the game - I feel like Ranked is the best way to hop into a quick game (playing unranked takes SOO long just to match, or to queue up - Ranked is pretty much instant) but the game has become SOOO sweaty even at B5 rank. Just not fun, it's mostly just full of bullshit like you got on your video.
F
@@iRazorTV i’m just holding onto the hope that the upcoming patches can fix a lot of the issues. Hopefully unranked can get matching like ranked does, but yeah games not in a great state rn
If you want to prevent ults try using characters with shield abilities. Like the androids, and if your really desperate gogeta blue he has instant transmission and shield ability you can use both skills to avoid ults. Use any Gokus with instant transmission to keep a eye on the enemy
@@Drink_YT was thinking about using cooler more often for his shield in final form, I’ll check our the androids as well
2"30 it's unblockable?
8:00 nah, I must have done something to unblock at 2:30
This is literally a skill issue lol the guy you’re fighting is literally terrible like I could probably beat him with a master Roshi😂😂
Guess I’m not good enough to deal with spammers yet lol, still doesn’t mean he wasn’t being annoying
@ honestly just rewatch your own video. If you are going to get somebody who is spamming something keep applying pressure. You let him breathe the way too many times like it’s absurd how many times you let him get some space.
@@TKLimitless if I was fighting this guy, he wouldn’t even get one sparkling mode off lmao
@@flux5387 true, I was hoping he’d drop the sparking and try and go on the offensive. Not sure why since he proved very early on that he won’t push until he was in sparking mode. Thanks for the tip, I’ll keep it in mind next time I face someone like them
Really great content!🔥
Thanks! Glad you liked it
I was the android 17 yajirobe and ui goku player u fought. 👺
Word, don’t remember how that game went but ggs either way
You gon have a hard time in S+ if this is cheese to you. This isn’t cheese. You’re just too aggressive against people that are in sparking mode. Always have the block ready. The first game he just dashed to you then used ult twice.
The second time he did it was obvious as hell too. His sparking mode is almost done so most people will try to use their ult.
I also noticed that in your rank ya’ll just hold down the o button. Stop doing that
Yeah, I’ve heard it gets wayyyy worse which has me worried. I’m gonna have to get a lot of practice in I guess, thank for the tip
Good games bro. You coulda made it a bit easier on yourself playing certain scenarios differently but ggs. As an honorable Gogeta main, we do not condone this.
I still got a lot of improving to do for sure, I appreciate the encouraging words. Glad people aren’t supporting this type of play style
The game is just bad
Instantspark is needed for DP battles cause of the health Regen and the time. All but bardocks can be interrupted
This is great content 🔥☝🏾
Thanks, I’m glad you liked it
Just wait till you play against a full afterimage strike team with a jiren spamming ki blast… 😭💀
That sounds horrible LMAO
How's base gogeta and sign goku cheating?
@@clem9808 Never said it was lol
He’s prolly a new player that saw yt videos and was practicing
Der gogeta spieler zeigt genau warum das game einfach kein bock macht. Looser durch und durch und gewinnt das match nur durch blödsinne entwickler.
nah bruh you're actually so bad lmaooo
True, but I’m slowly improving. Imma be good one day, trust
@@TKLimitlessI mean your not bad your literally above average and your slapping the shit out of players who spam ults so…
Thanks! I don’t think I’m bad but definitely have room to improve
He rocking two characters why shouldn’t he insta spark lmao
Acting like he was forced to use 2 characters lol, his choice and doesn’t make spamming insta spark okay
@ you wasn’t forced to use 4 either, if im facing 4 or more I would spam instant spark for sure. You have goku black with instant transmission play around it lmao
Exactly neither of us were forced, so why is he justified to spam. Using insta spark is fine, but bro was using it like it was his newest addiction lol
lmao bro you deadass could have won the game by stalling until the timer runs out since it’s 4v2 but that’s would have been lame fair play fighting against him. as a z rank watching this from experience really predictable to beat him, easy. but u gonna improve and get better to counter theese bs for sure
Happy to hear that there are counters to this play style. I just gotta learn, thanks for the encouraging words
bro i just raged and deleted my game because of the sparking spam
Completely understand, it’s such a pain to deal with
I understand it but that’s a bit far don’t you think
@@Drink_YT a little far but can’t expect the man to play if he isn’t enjoying it
@@TKLimitless true
Bro is mad he uses the game mechanics literally just get better and this stuff doesn’t happen there’s a counter for everything
Your not wrong, but you can’t sit there and tell me bro wasn’t spamming insta spark a little too much
@ you expect him to just let his skill counters sit there? Do you let yours? If so stop doing that use your skills to their fullest advantage and counters and such
@@vincam2628 there are other ways to use skill counters other than insta spark. Z-counters, perception, he never even bothered to proc wild sense or transform until the end lol. My problem is he never did anything else, it’s clear he was trying to go for easy wins with ults rather than fight.
I seen issues on both ends on the lol
Word, what’d I do wrong?
well it was 4 to 2 and that’s fine y’all can pick whoever you want but on your end I seen trunks who has an insta spark afterimage a unblockable ult and a unblockable charge ki blast. Videl being able to use a super for 2 bars back to back that can hit for like 15k on top of afterimage strike and a insta spark but she is easy to kill. Adult gohan is also a iffy pick depend on who use him bc he has wild sense and that can be an issue if spammed along with his strike super. Goku black high tier character with wild sense and a very good move kit very easy to use and he has instant transmission when he transforms. Now the other dude may look like the underdog but instant sparking the whole time and just throwing ults is insane I understand him being down 2 characters but insta sparking the whole time is crazy then using ui goku is crazy too bc he has auto dodge and wildsense and an insta spark.
@@redyoshi6208 fair enough, I had more of a problem with him spamming than his characters