Most people view the First Council of Nicaea as being Christianity taking over the Roman Empire but I disagree with this idea. In my opinion the Roman State moved from prohibition to regulation in order to control a religion that they failed to destroy. And that is exactly what happened.
Or, after numerous Roman Emperors attempted to eradicate Christianity from the face of the earth, they joined with it to corrupt it and get pagan Roman practices into the church. I'm a former Roman Catholic and all of the rituals are Roman in nature. If one takes a look at symbolism, which is very big in the occult world, one will see all of the symbolism within the Vatican. Especially with how the papal audience hall is designed to look like the head of a snake/serpent.
lol. The authority you speak on something you apparently don’t know anything about is hilarious. Where are you getting your info from? The Da Vinci Code?
Jesus will denie all who call him God... read ur bible correctly......😂😂😂😂 he doesn't love you all as he was not Christian, christianity was create after jesus died therefore he doesn't know what a Christian is.... ASK URSELF THAT QUESTION 😂😂😂
A lot of people won’t believe it, but it’s even written in the so called Bible: “Many are called, but few are chosen.” So, why bother trying to win more souls when the end is supposedly near? According to the Bible, that is. Now try explaining that to a devoted Muslim. good luck with that one! 😂
@@petegarrido5406 He is the Son of God because he humbled himself before The Father yet they are still equal in nature meaning still God. Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." - Romans 10:9 "On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords." - Revelation 19:16 "And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” - Matthew 28:18-20
Yes, I can't stand that UA-camrs are just complying with their censorship, too. Some of these pussies censor themselves saying "gun." Just so they won't trigger weak individuals. It's a pretty weak gesture in and of itself.
I believe in freedom of religion and I'll say that over and over. At the same time people should be able to hear and at least ponder a different side of what we've been taught.
@sevesetupou5874 imagine you thinking that in thinking that your thinking that he is thinking.....this can go on all day buddy. I've got nothing to do 🤣🤣🤣
The whole purpose of the Nicean council was clearly stated by emperor Constantine. "Let, then, all contentious disputation be discarded; and let us seek in the divinely-inspired word the solution of the questions at issue." It was virtually all the bishops, from all the churches come to hammer out disputes in the church at large. Primarily, the Arian controversy and the date calculated for Easter. The Nicean Creed formalized Christian dogma till this day.
Matthew 21:42-44 [42] Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures: “‘The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone; this was the Lord’s doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes’? [43] Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits. [44] And the one who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; and when it falls on anyone, it will crush him.”
I recommend the book “Pagan Christian” by Frank Viola. It really gives a complete History on how Christianity started with Constantine and so much more. If you love being Free and Love being saved by Grace through Faith, you will love this book and your mind will appreciate it! Be blessed everyone❤
The titles of these videos are not lining up with what is being talked about. For example I just watched one titled the council Nicaea is not what you think (which talks nothing about it) But I’m watching this one and it’s going over that information.
I've been looking into alot of these extra books I believe we are missing a bunch due to the messages being the story's. Like Susanna where Daniel shows how wicked the elder church members can be.
Thats a fair point of interest in the apocrypha. However, the hesitation should be the questionable authorship of these scriptures, and the contradiction held within from canon. The bible has been thoroughly scrutinized unlike gnostocism.
Christianity was starting to become popular enough in the Roman Empire (and especially in the lower classes like the poor, the women, the slaves) but also in circles of aristocracy, to the point that Constantine’s own mother was a Christian (while Constantine himself not only was a pagan, he was a high priest with religious duties in the religious life of the empire), but surprisingly, Constantine had a sizeable number of Christians in his own army and actually used Christian symbols FOR his army himself (including the cross and the phrase ΕΝ ΤΟΥΤΩ ΝΙΚΑ). Constantine was baptized a Christian (by an Arian bishop(!)) at his deathbed, but by the time of the Council of Nicea , Christianity was influential and sizeable enough as a religion that the council was needed.
Eh, at the time of the council Christianity makes up about 5% of the Empire. The empire wasn't even one empire at the time, it was split into 3. Western, Rome and Eastern. Constantine ruled the Eastern and United the Empire with Christianity through threat.
@ no, Constantine became the sole ruler of the Empire after his victory. He moved the capital to Byzantium, but the Empire was one. Theodosius gave the western part to one of his sons and the eastern part to the other, but the Empire was still one. When the western part fell and was lost, the Empire continued to exist until 1453.
@@nikostheater Yeah, it was not one. They even fought each other. Constantine cut the heads off generals and paraded them through the streets before he unified the empire as one.
This guy seems to have really done his research. Interesting. I'm still not convinced Constantine converted because he was a true believer, versus wanting control/power. But I completely agree that the church of Rome was just another church at the time, their leader having no greater power than anyone else in the churches.
I agree with you. From my time researching Christianity it is actually quite obvious he was a true convert. It did not help his political position at all, and was still viewed with suspicion in his time.
Wesley really gave water down cool aid explanation about what was really going on in the 325 AD council. Constantine the great had a different political agenda using Christianity as a method to consolidate the Roman eemourecegich it was divided in 4 different regions and different religions or beliefs systems. Christianity had such dark and ungodly origins with emperor of Rome using the Christian movement who primarily were gnostics and mystical with Jewish context. Yet Constantine introduced idolatry and philosophy wired Greco Romsn remix to use it for their Roman conquest to spread the empire with a new religion regardless if they had to murder people who didn’t want to convert which it is totally against Jesus’s teachings.
Something that absolutely TERRIFIES a lot of Christians is discovering the truth and origins of a lot of the doctrine that has become “orthodox.” Reading the church fathers’ texts, including and especially Tertullian’s, you discover that the Trinity was still not believed in by many Christians around 100-120 AD. In fact, in Tertullian’s time when he wrote Against Praxeas, you can see in it that the majority of the Christians balked at this new teaching of the Trinity. Even more horrifying to the average modern Christian is learning how the concept of the Trinity developed over FIFTEEN centuries and has no real scriptural basis, and this can be backed up by looking at the original Greek in the so-called “proof texts” of Trinitarian dogma which Sir Isaac Newton himself exposed, along with several other scholars. The Church in Rome even excommunicated entire congregations for keeping the observation of Nisan 14 as Jesus commanded and not folding to the new observation of Easter Sunday a week later. People seem to forget that Jesus, Peter, Paul and John all prophesied about a great apostasy but the average Christian refuses to admit that the apostasy was already developing when the Apostles were still alive. Once they were gone, the church became a tool of Satan and the weeds overtook the wheat. The apostate Council of Nicea had no divine authority. Its authority was purely profane. They were no longer “no part of the world” by that point.
The guest talks with 100% certainty as if he was there.. And as if The Roman's didn't have their influence posted in the canonical books.... The Roman's used the religion for their purposes...not to spread the gospel
If the Romans infiltrated the church then Jesus is a liar who cannot be trusted because the devil has prevailed against his flock. Because if that is true then our oldest churches (Catholic/Orthodox) are themselves entirely wrong which leaves us no origin to even begin to correct the church because all the church fathers belonged to this one Orthodox (or 2 after schism) denomination. Like the speaker says, all the other texts contradict each other which means confusion. Be mindful of the implications of your statements before you end up giving the flock reason to deny the Gospels all together.
Dead Sea scrolls validate our own Bible. It contains copies of the books we have. Also it predates Christ. 1 Enoch has verses in revelation. Peter. Jude.
Early Christians didn't kill nor persecuted nonbelievers, early Christians were the ones who was persecuted, tortured and killed for their faith, espetialy in Roman empire.
Wow that's a sophisticated thought process On subject that doesn't need clarification. Just putting it out there cause it's hard to imagine the second turn in the road with pride first. If there's an enemy what a great way to destroy the truth with a man's words. Everyone knows what matters and that's that, an argument based on marginalization of others to promote an idea from our minds. Righteous. Certainly not a deception for us to help us right our own ticket. Look around at what it really means to be human and our behavior, we really are a pedantic joke compared to what is.
Spiritualism, know creator in your way, knowing that he is in us not in a building or by listening to what someone else tells you how to believe. The catholic church will fall within the next 8 to 10 yrs if not sooner.......
Israel had a pagan gentile covenant with God. Deuteronomy, with its blessings and curses, is virtually the same vassal covent every other pagan idol worshipping nation had with their gods. This means that the topic of sin and the need to have a sacrificial system within a temple to be saved from gods wrath is pagan. This guy is smart, but he will interpret what he knows through his own religious lens.
That's typically what one does in a discussion. It's unfortunate that you don't like the truth of the message or factual history. As a former Roman Catholic who was heavily involved (lecter, EME, asked to consider becoming a Deacon) it is amazing what happens when you start to read Scripture and have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ (which francis said is "dangerous" at world youth day a few years ago). Have you ever wondered why the Vatican's papal audience hall is designed to look exactly like the head of a snake/serpent? I sure have. Additionally, they teach a false, works-based way of salvation, where one isn't even sure where they will go when they die. The Gospel (1 Cor. 15:1-4; Romans 10:9-10) couldn't be more clear on how one can receive eternal life, yet a lot of Catholic and Protestant churches deny the power of Jesus Christ.
Trinity isn’t in scripture, God is NOT 3 people. Godhead is in scripture and clearly states the Godhead is 3 PARTS of 1 PERSON 1 Person = 1 God 3 People = 3 gods Doesn’t matter how you try to argue the fact 3 people make 3 gods and is Pagan, just like the word Catholic.
Wait what? Who decided that “trinity” was a reference to 3 people? 3 parts of one God sounds kinda Triune to me. I’ve always understood the Godhead to be exactly as you believe. . .
When this dude tried to discredit the Ethiopian Bible I knew he was full of it. Ethiopia has the oldest church and the oldest complete Bible. The councils removed what they didn’t want in the Bible. Wes also doesn’t talk about the illiteracy rate. Mostly wealthy people were literate. Roman church being an extension of the Roman Empire was only about Control and MONEY
Many church fathers over the early centuries drew up lists of what they thought should be the canon of scripture. The council met to consider these lists and draw up a single list that would be considered authoritative for the church. There was no accepted canon when the council met, so it's impossible that they removed books from it. Your contention that the council met to take the Ethiopian Bible and ban books from it is false. The council wasn't modifying the Ethiopian canon, it was building a new canon from scratch. Secondly, how do you know the Roman church was only about control and money? What historical evidence did you use to reach this conclusion?
@@patrickbarnes9874 that’s not what I said. I said He discredited the Ethiopian Bible which is the OLDEST complete work with All the books the numerous Councils removed. Ethiopia also has the oldest Church and Hebrew DNA. 🧬 Their bloodline is a direct link. I think they know better than a group assembled
The oldest known Bible is the Codex Sinaiticus which was written in 3rd century. The Ethiopian Bible was written between the 4th and 7th century. Now, the Ethiopian Bible is the oldest when it comes to be the most complete of all the Bibles. The oldest Bible: Codex Sinaiticus (66-68 book). The oldest n most complete Bible: The Ethiopian Bible (81-88 books).
The Gnostics are right. You are verifiably divine. Sad to see Christians defending the chains that bind them. If Jesus was here now Christians would crucify him as a heretic.
@@cobaltprime9467 the Kingdom of Heaven is within you. Have I not told you, ye are Gods? So let the mind be in you that was in Jesus Christ(Christ consciousness). Establish yourself in the peace that literally passeth understanding because it passes the mind, being wholly unconditional. I could go on but what I say is verifiable & actually the best chance you have of getting Jesus taken seriously.
@@swinnyuk6584 ngl I think Gnosticism is the flat earth of religion and that comment does not help. I know you mean well but the sources you put your faith in aren’t reliable. A lot are proven forgeries or just straight don’t exist or were made looooong after the Bible was finished. If you go deeper than the surface level, you’ll see that.
Yep when they instituted paganism calling it sainthood. And for the next 2000 years tried to keep the scriptures from being translated into the common languages.
Yeah St Ireneus in book 3 ch 3 of Against Heresies disagrees that the bishop of Rome was just another dude. I know Prots like to ignore that (and St Ignatius and St Justin Martyr) and pretend it doesn't exist. It really casts doubt on everything else Wes says if he's willing to be dishonest about that. I don't know why so many Protestants can't bring themselves to say "yes Peter was Pope. Rome was the head of the Church, but along the way it was lost and we just started our new version of Christianity." At least you'd be honest. To their credit, Mormons actually do say that.
He has to appeal to his Protestant donors/base. There has been an active push now for Protestants to redefine and steal the Early Church Fathers and Councils and interpret them to suit their needs. They know that the typical Protestant and casual viewer will be so awed at the information being presented by their Protestant influencers, that they can stop the hemorrhaging of tithers leaving some of these material heretical Protestant churches to Catholicism. At the end of the day he’ll disagree with “65% Christian and say it wasn’t that much” to “The inquisition martyred millions in Europe”. And then get mad and have prot vomit(call no man father, where’s pope in the Bible, Mary/Saints are dead they can’t hear you, it’s just a symbol, only one mediator, yall think you can earn your way to heaven, where’s your atm machine and tier levels of tithing membership in your church, Cohabitation and divorce can be justified)
Persecution? Christianity persecuted hundreds of millions. Believe or Die. Now that everyone has a mind of ther own... Still full of fear rather believe rapists murderers those who sacrificed children at the time... Only ther interpretation.
@@wesleywarsmith1113 this is going to involve some reading. In the beginning with the birth of Cain and able there were basically a division of the nature of men. A rebel and one that sought after God. And Seth took the place of able after he was murdered. Still two lines. All the way to noah. Sin had corrupted everyone . God judged them. Then Noah's sons repopulate the world. And at the tower of babel God divided the world into nations but only chose one. Again at this time the whole world was mostly pagan. With only very few God considered righteous. Noah,shem, ever and then down to Abraham. Abraham was of the nations. A goy. But became the father of all those that believe. God separated him. From the other nations. Please read. Genesis. And jubliees. And 2 esdras/ 2 ezra. I will type some more in a minute. But the heirs broke the covenant. And I will explain that.
@@wesleywarsmith1113 okay. God knows the beginning from the end. He exists in all time at the same time. That is why He is able to proclaim future events. Thousands of years beforehand. God gave the laws to Isreal. And they entered into a covenant. And they broke it about 3 days later. Okay very important. Read duet32. Before they go into the promised land . God told them exactly what they would do. What He was going to do and did and wll do. That song of Moses is a promise, a rebuke to get them to repent, a prophecy thousands of years before it took place. And also a promise to the gentiles to graft them into Isreal. This same song is in rev15:2-4 . But guess what. It is sung by all nations, tribes and tongues. All the nations. And they go in by faith and trust in Christ. Read Ezekiel 20. It is prophesied that they would reject Him. And would graft in the nations. Zechariah chapter 2 is also a summary. I will give you more verses. Also Joseph's story in Egypt is a foreshadowing of the nations being grafted in. His brothers rejected Him. Tried to kill Him. His coat is a prophecy. It was dipped in blood. Atonement. He married a gentile. And he is Ephraim. Of the nations.
Someone/ group HAD to decide what books made it in . God chose those people and it was decided according to Gods will. The fake books were weeded out and discarded as they should have been. This guy seems to think because people had to make that decision it’s somehow makes it less valid ?
There were manuscripts of Scripture, which the previous emperor Diocletian attempted to have eradicated from the face of the earth. The primary purpose of the first council was as an ecumenical council (never a good idea) for Constantine to attempt to unify his subjects through church and state. The primary purpose was not to determine the canon of Scripture.
@@crazyprayingmantis5596 He talks as if it's a fact that God exists, yes. And atheists talk as if it's a fact that evolution exists. People tend to assume their beliefs are true. People tend to assume their beliefs are true. Just like if I use your standards on your comment, you're also making vast unwarranted assumptions. Where is your supporting evidence that there is no way to investigate God? You have not demonstrated that there is no way to investigate this question, so you have zero justification in assuming it to be fact. But we all know what you mean in conversation. So please afford other people the same allowances that you yourself are assuming.
Do some research. Each denomination has their own idea. There was no council ever that decided unanimously what went in our Bible. That lie has been repeated over and over. The Holy Spirit is our guide. Christ started His church. He probably had the dead sea scrolls or something similar. 300 years later the rcc infiltrated it with paganism and said only read this or we will kill you.
I really like this guy's ability to talk but it's alot of rehash and recap 😂. Oppologize to Billy young man. It's good to confident but one can be too hasty.
There is no such thing as "your truth". Individuals have opinions, not truths. One of the three fundamental rules of logic is the law of non-contradiction. A and ~A cannot both be true. The concept of "your truth" violates this law. Your truth and my truth come from a concept called standpoint epistemology made up by university feminists whose theories were being proven wrong by history. They invented this idea so that they could make claims that contradicted historical fact and still call those claims true.
No, he didn't the edict of Milan allowed religious freedom for all practices in the empire including Christianity. Christianity didn't become the official religion of the Roman Empire until long after Constantine died.
Look the mountain of bodies done in the name of the Church. That had nothing to do with Christ. Go read foxes book of martyrs. Eusibius. Josephus. Or just keep doing what your doing
@@gradyjohnson7853Neither Eusebius nor Josephus say anything about about the Church ‘killing people’. Foxes book of martyrs refers to Protestant martyrs murdered by the RC Church. Looks like you need to read them yourself.
Christianity was left as the only legal religion on 27 February in 380 AD by emperor Theodosius..... not Constantine. Constantine only decriminalised being a Christian. He died in 337 AD, way before Theodosius made it law.
Man, i just wish that Wes used more conservative words in this interview. For example, instead of saying this thing happened 2,000 years ago.... You should say, to the best of our understanding, this happened 2,000 years ago. In fact, he should add that to so many sentences, that it would get annoying after a while. However, it really bothers me. I just need and acknowledgment that most miniscule of doubt is normal and healthy.
The great dragon, the serpent from the beginning of times, called devil or the accuser. Job 1.6, identifies the accuser as a spirit being who is among the benei-elohim. The snake is elohim-kind, one of the council. He is one of the powerful ones (elohim). The snake (Enki) shows the humans how they can achieve a higher level of consciousness.
Stopping at 1:41 already to question how this man does not know that Paul plagiarized Plato and other early Greek writers,at times word for word? Must I sit through the rest of this to pick out his "educated" misgivings?
Using an audience's existing culture and body of knowledge to express concepts to them in ways they will understand isn't plagiarism. It's effective communication.
@@patrickbarnes9874 What a massively ignorant response. I am an author and a songwriter. If someone uses my words without quoting me,it's legally called "plagiarism", period,and boy,did Paul plagiarize. You're just another biased soul who refutes truth..
@@patrickbarnes9874 Wow,what a statement! So If I take words from another's known writings,song,or even art - and never give the writers or artists credit,then it's only okay to do it if I'm a Christian,right? That's what you're saying? Because for everyone in this world so far as I know,it's called "plagiarism",by law,and even Xians have to follow the law of the land..
@@brotherlittlefoot2216its not plagiarism, simply more modern adaptations of the same stories of the culture. The plagiarism argument is so ignorant, most of these stories were word of mouth passed from one generation to another. Not an example of plagiarism, as plagiarism is a modern term now that written texts have owners.
@@thealien4863 No,with Paul it's 100% plagiarism bc he did not quote who was said the words;he took credit for himself...And yes,many stories from the Bible were stolen and crafted s if they were actually stories of the People of Abraham,which many are not. If you are okay w cultural appropriation and stealing words and stories from other people to shape who you are,then that's okay w me,until you plagiarize me and I sue you. By the way,I am an author and songwriter w works published,so I might know a thing or 2 about plagiarism... And your argument is beyond worn out,like an old pair of panties.on the other hand,mine you can prove w a little research,but you keep wearing them panties.
When you read the testament of Solomon and Solomon literally talks about zodiacs of the demons he conjured and the book is purposely removed and Christianity is against zodiac ..
I think it’s all a bunch of bullshit. Idk what God is, but I definitely don’t believe God is this man in the sky that’s extremely powerful and perfect, but yet so petty.
@ waking up it’s a beautiful thing all that spiritual is more aligned with the truth but in my opinion it’s just human being just like us smarter that’s it it takes a different type of mind to understand that no disrespect to any religion humans do need someone to lead them that just facts involving myself in this conversation right now it’s actually bringing this type of stuff into my life that I don’t really Want like I woke up on my birthday October 24 I woke up and my life completely changed I started remembering things from my past and it just all makes sense. I’m talking about my past lives. It’s just it’s it sounds like a bunch of bullshit but shit my understanding has changed and I know I can do anything I don’t fear anything
@@LOVEHERPOISON Very interesting. So after your birthday, have you wanted to become more religious or what has these memories caused you to wanna do, think or believe?
@ the last thing I wanna do is to force my beliefs on anybody that would just make me like everyone else I also understand the power of words I’m meant complete my journey I started 85,000 the best way I know how to explain would be have you watched the movie cloud atlas ? “The Revelation of Sonmi 451 To be is to be perceived, and so to know thyself is only possible through the eyes of the other. The nature of our immortal lives is in the consequences of our words and deeds, that go on and are pushing themselves throughout all time. - Our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others, past and present, and by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future.” You must acknowledge and remember who we are especially right now the comet atlas just past by and everyone started having dreams of catastrophes the end of the world and stuff like that these are memories embedded in our souls that are meant to wake us up not put us deeper into fear
@firstlast2514 Amon Hillman. I get factual, based translations from legit historical language experts. This clown is on an equal with Billy. Fuggem both
Thank you for breaking this up in clips. I tried to watch in long form but something about this guy really rubs me the wrong way. Like he is a professional bullshitter or something. Taking it all in fragments is definitely how to tolerate his unattractive personality. Why do these religious “scholars” always have to be weirdos? Ammon could be his homeboy.
Jesus is God in the flesh who stepped out of eternity and humbled himself to the point of death on a cross to atone for the sins of the world out of love and mercy! Truth will prevail and is beyond time and understanding. Islam, Mormonism, Hinduism, Jehovahs Witnesses, Judaism etc.... are all false. Jesus is Messiah and Lord! He is God in the Flesh! He rose on the 3rd day! Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega! The beginning and the end! The first and the last! He is the Word of God Almighty! He is the Spotless lamb! God's Word is inseparable from Himself. They're the same being and same essence!
This guy is on par to someone who is a Star Trek fan and speaks Klingon. Good for you to learn about a particular fiction but we have something called reality.
This is strawmanning big time, the “secret wisdom” IS Christ himself To come to the Father through Christ alone is to acknowledge your Christ nature and embody it If you think “Gnosticism” is a boogeyman I’d suggest you reconsider it, with appropriate personal discernment from the Holy Spirit Christians are more often fans of Christ than followers
@ you’re quick to reject Christ “Gnosticism” is a pointed word and label Christians use to deny the more metaphysically challenging realities of Christ The way you say “that’s giving it too much credit” comes off in an unchristlike bad faith and unintellectual way I’m not defending Gnosticism, yet you’d rebut me as if I am
“Satan” is not even real. A fictional and mythical being. Same with “God”. Congrats though to everyone who can make money and or power from invoking and manifesting them
I guess all matter just poofed into existance... yeah that's a great explanation buddy. I guess buildings just formed themselves too from a random chance. Newsflash everything has a creator! And God is the creator of all things. Trust in Jesus my friend before it's too late. Do not make that eternal mistake
@15walkingaway you show me another God that has as much history and proof compared to Jesus. Let me ask you a question. If you knew christianity were 100 percent true would you become a christian?
I'll out debate him on this issue. Huge holes in how he represents the history ...its all opinion lol ......Rofl ......he straight starts making shit up after he was asked about the compromises lol
Wes is the real deal so glad he is getting noticed for his knowledge on Christianity, ancient literature and history
He repeats a lot of stuff that's been proven untrue by archeology.
@@mrrooster4876Care to mention 5 things he repeats and sources to disapprove it? It all just sounds like a heap of lies from you.
@@ricknroll963 trust me, bro. 😂
It’s not a religion it’s a relationship with Jesus!
YES. religion killed Christ.
Yes it is a relationship, but it is also a religion (James 1:27)
Wes knows his stuff, and he is very articulate too👍
Most people view the First Council of Nicaea as being Christianity taking over the Roman Empire but I disagree with this idea. In my opinion the Roman State moved from prohibition to regulation in order to control a religion that they failed to destroy. And that is exactly what happened.
We all seen that video and what the crown became
Or, after numerous Roman Emperors attempted to eradicate Christianity from the face of the earth, they joined with it to corrupt it and get pagan Roman practices into the church. I'm a former Roman Catholic and all of the rituals are Roman in nature. If one takes a look at symbolism, which is very big in the occult world, one will see all of the symbolism within the Vatican. Especially with how the papal audience hall is designed to look like the head of a snake/serpent.
Bingo. The devil wanted to steer the ship towards himself. Not gonna work out for that perditious filth.
I agree completely
lol. The authority you speak on something you apparently don’t know anything about is hilarious.
Where are you getting your info from? The Da Vinci Code?
Jesus Loves You All
Jesus will denie all who call him God... read ur bible correctly......😂😂😂😂 he doesn't love you all as he was not Christian, christianity was create after jesus died therefore he doesn't know what a Christian is.... ASK URSELF THAT QUESTION 😂😂😂
I don't blame people for not being sure. It's not a sin to not be sure. It's a sincere state.
We've been taught that even Jesus had his moment of doubt.
A lot of people won’t believe it, but it’s even written in the so called Bible: “Many are called, but few are chosen.” So, why bother trying to win more souls when the end is supposedly near? According to the Bible, that is. Now try explaining that to a devoted Muslim. good luck with that one! 😂
There’s a difference between uncertainty and disbelief.
@@caseyanders1601 hit the nail on the head right there
@@Mr.Creosote15 When did Jesus have his moment of doubt?
Great guest, thank you.
Those that don’t believe will get a rude awakening. I pray that this video brings people to the true Lord which is Jesus Christ
Jesus is the Son not the Lord. The Lord however puts his Son's name above everything else .
@@petegarrido5406 He is the Son of God because he humbled himself before The Father yet they are still equal in nature meaning still God. Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." - Romans 10:9
"On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords." - Revelation 19:16
"And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” - Matthew 28:18-20
@@petegarrido5406 search for juskrista the black saint
Zeus laughs at your puny god
@ Zeus is dead Jesus Christ remains forever
Is anyone else sick of UA-cam censoring your comments?
Yes, I can't stand that UA-camrs are just complying with their censorship, too. Some of these pussies censor themselves saying "gun." Just so they won't trigger weak individuals. It's a pretty weak gesture in and of itself.
I believe in freedom of religion and I'll say that over and over. At the same time people should be able to hear and at least ponder a different side of what we've been taught.
Who are you replying to, the Inquisition?
@@nomdeguerre8464 Nobody expects it!
That's called the First Amendment. Welcome to understanding freedom.
@Fctsdntcarebouturfeelings If I didn't, I wouldn't have made the statement.
Called freewill. Cain had it. Gid offered him a way to repent. He chose to 1 up himself. The answer is Romans 2:11-16.
Pray for Billy 🙏🏻
Thank you for sharing!
The ignorance in the comments is astounding
This is the top comment and before reading any other comments I'm gonna agree with you haha
Which ones? Im ignorant
Imagine calling a comment ignorant just cause they don't agree with you
@@davidbgooch9587imagine making assumptions about his reasons for calling them ignorant
@sevesetupou5874 imagine you thinking that in thinking that your thinking that he is thinking.....this can go on all day buddy. I've got nothing to do 🤣🤣🤣
You can just feel JDs bias oozing here. He wants Dan Brown to be right so bad.
Good work bro this is a good episode
Speak with any authority today and you get tuned out
Even boys hate real men these days 😂
Don’t dislike him get like him
Guess it's just that amazingly beautiful.
The whole purpose of the Nicean council was clearly stated by emperor Constantine. "Let, then, all contentious disputation be discarded; and let us seek in the divinely-inspired word the solution of the questions at issue." It was virtually all the bishops, from all the churches come to hammer out disputes in the church at large. Primarily, the Arian controversy and the date calculated for Easter. The Nicean Creed formalized Christian dogma till this day.
Daniel 2:35
"...and the rock (Peter) that struck the statue (Rome) became a great mountain that filled the whole Earth. (The Church)"❤
The rock is Jesus.
@cf9583
Peter, "the rock" was sent to Rome.🤷🏽♂️
Matthew 21:42-44
[42] Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures:
“‘The stone that the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone;
this was the Lord’s doing,
and it is marvelous in our eyes’?
[43] Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits. [44] And the one who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; and when it falls on anyone, it will crush him.”
@@davidcantu3102 look at the Greek. Jesus called Peter “Little Rock” making sure it was distinguished who was the real rock. Stop usurping Christ
I’m not sure we should attribute that text to this.
I hope Joe Rogan has Wesley on soon.
I recommend the book “Pagan Christian” by Frank Viola. It really gives a complete History on how Christianity started with Constantine and so much more. If you love being Free and Love being saved by Grace through Faith, you will love this book and your mind will appreciate it! Be blessed everyone❤
You want to believe in history or pre-history is the only question you need to ask yourself here.
The titles of these videos are not lining up with what is being talked about. For example I just watched one titled the council Nicaea is not what you think (which talks nothing about it) But I’m watching this one and it’s going over that information.
I've been looking into alot of these extra books I believe we are missing a bunch due to the messages being the story's. Like Susanna where Daniel shows how wicked the elder church members can be.
Thats a fair point of interest in the apocrypha. However, the hesitation should be the questionable authorship of these scriptures, and the contradiction held within from canon. The bible has been thoroughly scrutinized unlike gnostocism.
I like this podcast, but I’m kind of disappointed in the Clickbait title. They spoke nothing of end times or Satan.
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽need this knowledge
All relevant information in the so called banned books can be inferred by reading the accepted canon. You cannot corrupt the Word of God.
How do you know God exists?
What exactly are you referring to when you use the word God?
Comments like this are why folks should step away from Protestantism
Video title seems wrong to me.
You would be correct. Lol has nothing to do with the topic discussed for most of the video.
Julian is particularly bad about this sort of thing.
How can salvation be a gift if you have to pay for it. Even Jesus said you don’t need a priest but Christianity says otherwise ….
All you need is to invite Jesus to be you lord and savior
The Catholic Church says that, but that’s not necessarily representative of all of Christianity.
Satanist pictured behind him.
Pray for the Holy Spirit to lead you.
These people can be very tricky with their words.
This isn’t Wes podcast, he’s just the guest
Who is on picture behind him?I can t see face?
Could not have been that obscure considering that Valentinus nearly became the pope....
Christianity was starting to become popular enough in the Roman Empire (and especially in the lower classes like the poor, the women, the slaves) but also in circles of aristocracy, to the point that Constantine’s own mother was a Christian (while Constantine himself not only was a pagan, he was a high priest with religious duties in the religious life of the empire), but surprisingly, Constantine had a sizeable number of Christians in his own army and actually used Christian symbols FOR his army himself (including the cross and the phrase ΕΝ ΤΟΥΤΩ ΝΙΚΑ). Constantine was baptized a Christian (by an Arian bishop(!)) at his deathbed, but by the time of the Council of Nicea , Christianity was influential and sizeable enough as a religion that the council was needed.
Eh, at the time of the council Christianity makes up about 5% of the Empire. The empire wasn't even one empire at the time, it was split into 3. Western, Rome and Eastern. Constantine ruled the Eastern and United the Empire with Christianity through threat.
@ no, Constantine became the sole ruler of the Empire after his victory.
He moved the capital to Byzantium, but the Empire was one.
Theodosius gave the western part to one of his sons and the eastern part to the other, but the Empire was still one.
When the western part fell and was lost, the Empire continued to exist until 1453.
@@nikostheater Yeah, it was not one. They even fought each other. Constantine cut the heads off generals and paraded them through the streets before he unified the empire as one.
@@nikostheater Yeah, his victory! My point exactly. He paraded the heads of generals from one side of the empire to another. He was a total tyrant.
The interpretation IS THE Tactic.
This guy seems to have really done his research. Interesting. I'm still not convinced Constantine converted because he was a true believer, versus wanting control/power. But I completely agree that the church of Rome was just another church at the time, their leader having no greater power than anyone else in the churches.
Constantine made his dicision based spot on politics . He saw Christianity as a growing movement that could not be stopped .
I agree with you. From my time researching Christianity it is actually quite obvious he was a true convert. It did not help his political position at all, and was still viewed with suspicion in his time.
I read in my church history class that Constantine converted close to his death bed.
@araenasanchez no, I recall he waited to be baptized until death because he had been taught the lie that baptism washes away sins.
Who knows who cares, your perception is really just a reflection of who you are
What is that chair he is sitting in?
A throne of lies?
Funny watching Wes’s eyes in this video look straight, meanwhile the one with Billy Carson he’s looking all Over the place. Crazy
Are you serious ? These two are in the same room. Across from one another. Billy and Wes were doing a video debate. They were looking into a camera.
Wesley really gave water down cool aid explanation about what was really going on in the 325 AD council. Constantine the great had a different political agenda using Christianity as a method to consolidate the Roman eemourecegich it was divided in 4 different regions and different religions or beliefs systems. Christianity had such dark and ungodly origins with emperor of Rome using the Christian movement who primarily were gnostics and mystical with Jewish context. Yet Constantine introduced idolatry and philosophy wired Greco Romsn remix to use it for their Roman conquest to spread the empire with a new religion regardless if they had to murder people who didn’t want to convert which it is totally against Jesus’s teachings.
Something that absolutely TERRIFIES a lot of Christians is discovering the truth and origins of a lot of the doctrine that has become “orthodox.” Reading the church fathers’ texts, including and especially Tertullian’s, you discover that the Trinity was still not believed in by many Christians around 100-120 AD. In fact, in Tertullian’s time when he wrote Against Praxeas, you can see in it that the majority of the Christians balked at this new teaching of the Trinity. Even more horrifying to the average modern Christian is learning how the concept of the Trinity developed over FIFTEEN centuries and has no real scriptural basis, and this can be backed up by looking at the original Greek in the so-called “proof texts” of Trinitarian dogma which Sir Isaac Newton himself exposed, along with several other scholars. The Church in Rome even excommunicated entire congregations for keeping the observation of Nisan 14 as Jesus commanded and not folding to the new observation of Easter Sunday a week later. People seem to forget that Jesus, Peter, Paul and John all prophesied about a great apostasy but the average Christian refuses to admit that the apostasy was already developing when the Apostles were still alive. Once they were gone, the church became a tool of Satan and the weeds overtook the wheat. The apostate Council of Nicea had no divine authority. Its authority was purely profane. They were no longer “no part of the world” by that point.
Very well said 🙏🏼
Trinity is a major false doctrine.
The guest talks with 100% certainty as if he was there..
And as if The Roman's didn't have their influence posted in the canonical books....
The Roman's used the religion for their purposes...not to spread the gospel
If the Romans infiltrated the church then Jesus is a liar who cannot be trusted because the devil has prevailed against his flock. Because if that is true then our oldest churches (Catholic/Orthodox) are themselves entirely wrong which leaves us no origin to even begin to correct the church because all the church fathers belonged to this one Orthodox (or 2 after schism) denomination. Like the speaker says, all the other texts contradict each other which means confusion. Be mindful of the implications of your statements before you end up giving the flock reason to deny the Gospels all together.
You're just spouting a baseless conspiracy popularized by Davinci Code level works such as Caesar's Messiah.
Wes has his doctorate in these subjects. Your comment is very short sighted.
Uh…an actual researcher that truly studies is called educated. Unlike Billy Carson who is a con-artist
@autisticphaglosophy7128 tell me with 100% certainty the Emperor didn't have no influence in this.
I will wait
How is the title relevant to anything stated in this video???
I'd agree with him until 2 things one. Jesus or yeshuas connection to zoroastrianism, also the dead sea scrolls and the book of enoch.
One day we will all wake up and realize that the author of these books weren’t the original biblical characters.
@@alanmiddleton7144waking up and realizing isnt and intellectual activity 😂
Dead Sea scrolls validate our own Bible. It contains copies of the books we have. Also it predates Christ. 1 Enoch has verses in revelation. Peter. Jude.
Must have been Christmas in July!
I wanna know did early Christian’s go to hell or heaven for killing and persecuting people who didn’t believe. What about them Christian’s?
Early Christians didn't kill nor persecuted nonbelievers, early Christians were the ones who was persecuted, tortured and killed for their faith, espetialy in Roman empire.
WITHOUT THE RUACH KODESH IT CANNOT BE DONE HOLY SPIRIT GUIDE US
Feast of booths 🎉 0:57
I find it somewhat amusing, that this particular topic only got mmm...just under 12 min of "air time". JS
The title has nothing to do with the video
That's par for the course on this channel
Wow that's a sophisticated thought process On subject that doesn't need clarification. Just putting it out there cause it's hard to imagine the second turn in the road with pride first. If there's an enemy what a great way to destroy the truth with a man's words. Everyone knows what matters and that's that, an argument based on marginalization of others to promote an idea from our minds. Righteous. Certainly not a deception for us to help us right our own ticket. Look around at what it really means to be human and our behavior, we really are a pedantic joke compared to what is.
Spiritualism, know creator in your way, knowing that he is in us not in a building or by listening to what someone else tells you how to believe. The catholic church will fall within the next 8 to 10 yrs if not sooner.......
Israel had a pagan gentile covenant with God. Deuteronomy, with its blessings and curses, is virtually the same vassal covent every other pagan idol worshipping nation had with their gods. This means that the topic of sin and the need to have a sacrificial system within a temple to be saved from gods wrath is pagan.
This guy is smart, but he will interpret what he knows through his own religious lens.
This guy is inserting his perspective/ opinion in between facts. It's misleading, typical protestant strategy..
^ typical of a Romanism cultist
Romanism is a kult
That's typically what one does in a discussion. It's unfortunate that you don't like the truth of the message or factual history. As a former Roman Catholic who was heavily involved (lecter, EME, asked to consider becoming a Deacon) it is amazing what happens when you start to read Scripture and have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ (which francis said is "dangerous" at world youth day a few years ago). Have you ever wondered why the Vatican's papal audience hall is designed to look exactly like the head of a snake/serpent? I sure have. Additionally, they teach a false, works-based way of salvation, where one isn't even sure where they will go when they die. The Gospel (1 Cor. 15:1-4; Romans 10:9-10) couldn't be more clear on how one can receive eternal life, yet a lot of Catholic and Protestant churches deny the power of Jesus Christ.
@@andrewmarshall7569👍👍👍
I don't buy anything this guy says.
So the bishop of Rome wasn’t such a big deal in 4 th century? So much for RC cult’s ’ primacy’ doctrine.
Just watched this and nothing in the title was covered…
Trinity isn’t in scripture, God is NOT 3 people.
Godhead is in scripture and clearly states the Godhead is 3 PARTS of 1 PERSON
1 Person = 1 God
3 People = 3 gods
Doesn’t matter how you try to argue the fact 3 people make 3 gods and is Pagan, just like the word Catholic.
Bingo. They are three aspects of our one and only TRUE LIVING GOD. Not three separate entities/people.
Wait what? Who decided that “trinity” was a reference to 3 people? 3 parts of one God sounds kinda Triune to me. I’ve always understood the Godhead to be exactly as you believe. . .
What you are so confused
When John baptized who do u think he was talking about?
Your tiny little brain cannot comprehend. Jesus was God in human form the holy Spirit lives inside us to help us guide us and then there's God
When this dude tried to discredit the Ethiopian Bible I knew he was full of it. Ethiopia has the oldest church and the oldest complete Bible. The councils removed what they didn’t want in the Bible. Wes also doesn’t talk about the illiteracy rate. Mostly wealthy people were literate. Roman church being an extension of the Roman Empire was only about Control and MONEY
R u Muslim?
Many church fathers over the early centuries drew up lists of what they thought should be the canon of scripture. The council met to consider these lists and draw up a single list that would be considered authoritative for the church.
There was no accepted canon when the council met, so it's impossible that they removed books from it. Your contention that the council met to take the Ethiopian Bible and ban books from it is false. The council wasn't modifying the Ethiopian canon, it was building a new canon from scratch.
Secondly, how do you know the Roman church was only about control and money? What historical evidence did you use to reach this conclusion?
@@patrickbarnes9874 that’s not what I said. I said He discredited the Ethiopian Bible which is the OLDEST complete work with All the books the numerous Councils removed. Ethiopia also has the oldest Church and Hebrew DNA. 🧬 Their bloodline is a direct link. I think they know better than a group assembled
@@tiffanyblack6911 No mam I am not.
The oldest known Bible is the Codex Sinaiticus which was written in 3rd century.
The Ethiopian Bible was written between the 4th and 7th century.
Now, the Ethiopian Bible is the oldest when it comes to be the most complete of all the Bibles.
The oldest Bible: Codex Sinaiticus (66-68 book).
The oldest n most complete Bible: The Ethiopian Bible (81-88 books).
And believably
The Gnostics are right. You are verifiably divine. Sad to see Christians defending the chains that bind them. If Jesus was here now Christians would crucify him as a heretic.
You will answer to Yeshua
Nonsense
Asinine comment smh
@@cobaltprime9467 the Kingdom of Heaven is within you. Have I not told you, ye are Gods? So let the mind be in you that was in Jesus Christ(Christ consciousness). Establish yourself in the peace that literally passeth understanding because it passes the mind, being wholly unconditional.
I could go on but what I say is verifiable & actually the best chance you have of getting Jesus taken seriously.
@@swinnyuk6584 ngl I think Gnosticism is the flat earth of religion and that comment does not help. I know you mean well but the sources you put your faith in aren’t reliable. A lot are proven forgeries or just straight don’t exist or were made looooong after the Bible was finished. If you go deeper than the surface level, you’ll see that.
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Constantines mother was all in on Christianity,his mother influenced him on this.
Yep when they instituted paganism calling it sainthood. And for the next 2000 years tried to keep the scriptures from being translated into the common languages.
All wrong sin is a gift from God. This is so obvious if you cannot see it you know nothing
Yeah St Ireneus in book 3 ch 3 of Against Heresies disagrees that the bishop of Rome was just another dude.
I know Prots like to ignore that (and St Ignatius and St Justin Martyr) and pretend it doesn't exist.
It really casts doubt on everything else Wes says if he's willing to be dishonest about that.
I don't know why so many Protestants can't bring themselves to say "yes Peter was Pope. Rome was the head of the Church, but along the way it was lost and we just started our new version of Christianity." At least you'd be honest. To their credit, Mormons actually do say that.
He has to appeal to his Protestant donors/base. There has been an active push now for Protestants to redefine and steal the Early Church Fathers and Councils and interpret them to suit their needs. They know that the typical Protestant and casual viewer will be so awed at the information being presented by their Protestant influencers, that they can stop the hemorrhaging of tithers leaving some of these material heretical Protestant churches to Catholicism. At the end of the day he’ll disagree with “65% Christian and say it wasn’t that much” to “The inquisition martyred millions in Europe”. And then get mad and have prot vomit(call no man father, where’s pope in the Bible, Mary/Saints are dead they can’t hear you, it’s just a symbol, only one mediator, yall think you can earn your way to heaven, where’s your atm machine and tier levels of tithing membership in your church, Cohabitation and divorce can be justified)
Jeff got more evidence than Billy Carlson and I’m not saying for the lagging
Calling jesus jewish and saying hes steeped in judaism is a sure way to get in the book of life /s
Revelation 2:9; 3:9
Wes full of worldly knowledge. Wes surrender ur life to the Lord, earthly facts science proves truth wrong and that’s a fact
No human thought of an universe we’re water in water space above firmament is saltwater
😂😂😂 this guy is very much in mysticism, new age Kabbalah which is witchcraft in many forms, JESUS IS ALL YOU NEED !!!!!
Seriously let me guess you're a Catholic
Amen Gloria Dios Amen
Persecution? Christianity persecuted hundreds of millions. Believe or Die. Now that everyone has a mind of ther own... Still full of fear rather believe rapists murderers those who sacrificed children at the time... Only ther interpretation.
He's the God of EVERYONE?
Then why did he only tell one group of people?
Romans 2 :11-16. He has called the spirit of truth.
@gradyjohnson7853 So why did he only tell one group of people?
@wesleywarsmith1113 give me a few. Not a short answer
@@wesleywarsmith1113 this is going to involve some reading. In the beginning with the birth of Cain and able there were basically a division of the nature of men. A rebel and one that sought after God. And Seth took the place of able after he was murdered. Still two lines. All the way to noah. Sin had corrupted everyone . God judged them.
Then Noah's sons repopulate the world. And at the tower of babel God divided the world into nations but only chose one. Again at this time the whole world was mostly pagan. With only very few God considered righteous. Noah,shem, ever and then down to Abraham. Abraham was of the nations. A goy. But became the father of all those that believe. God separated him. From the other nations. Please read. Genesis. And jubliees. And 2 esdras/ 2 ezra. I will type some more in a minute. But the heirs broke the covenant. And I will explain that.
@@wesleywarsmith1113 okay. God knows the beginning from the end. He exists in all time at the same time. That is why He is able to proclaim future events. Thousands of years beforehand. God gave the laws to Isreal. And they entered into a covenant. And they broke it about 3 days later. Okay very important. Read duet32. Before they go into the promised land . God told them exactly what they would do. What He was going to do and did and wll do. That song of Moses is a promise, a rebuke to get them to repent, a prophecy thousands of years before it took place. And also a promise to the gentiles to graft them into Isreal. This same song is in rev15:2-4 . But guess what. It is sung by all nations, tribes and tongues. All the nations. And they go in by faith and trust in Christ. Read Ezekiel 20. It is prophesied that they would reject Him. And would graft in the nations. Zechariah chapter 2 is also a summary. I will give you more verses. Also Joseph's story in Egypt is a foreshadowing of the nations being grafted in. His brothers rejected Him. Tried to kill Him. His coat is a prophecy. It was dipped in blood. Atonement. He married a gentile. And he is Ephraim. Of the nations.
If you want the truth from a banned book, read Christenings Make Not Christians by Roger Williams. That will blow your hair back.
That supposed “book” doesn’t exist. Why do you like lying so much?
Moreover, for someone that founded the first Baptist denomination, your egregious lie doesn’t hold water. lol
@@caseyanders1601 I am not qualified to argue with people who are retarded or incapable of telling the truth. No, go find another leg to hump.
@@caseyanders1601 Typical American. Arrogant and aggressively stupid.
@@caseyanders1601 Why are Americans so damn ignorant?
Someone/ group HAD to decide what books made it in . God chose those people and it was decided according to Gods will. The fake books were weeded out and discarded as they should have been. This guy seems to think because people had to make that decision it’s somehow makes it less valid ?
How do you know God chose those people when they spread the “word” through religious crusades.
There were manuscripts of Scripture, which the previous emperor Diocletian attempted to have eradicated from the face of the earth. The primary purpose of the first council was as an ecumenical council (never a good idea) for Constantine to attempt to unify his subjects through church and state. The primary purpose was not to determine the canon of Scripture.
You talk as if it's a fact that God exists.
You do understand that we have no way to investigate this thing people refer to as God right?
@@crazyprayingmantis5596 He talks as if it's a fact that God exists, yes. And atheists talk as if it's a fact that evolution exists. People tend to assume their beliefs are true. People tend to assume their beliefs are true.
Just like if I use your standards on your comment, you're also making vast unwarranted assumptions. Where is your supporting evidence that there is no way to investigate God? You have not demonstrated that there is no way to investigate this question, so you have zero justification in assuming it to be fact.
But we all know what you mean in conversation. So please afford other people the same allowances that you yourself are assuming.
Do some research. Each denomination has their own idea. There was no council ever that decided unanimously what went in our Bible. That lie has been repeated over and over. The Holy Spirit is our guide. Christ started His church. He probably had the dead sea scrolls or something similar. 300 years later the rcc infiltrated it with paganism and said only read this or we will kill you.
I really like this guy's ability to talk but it's alot of rehash and recap 😂. Oppologize to Billy young man. It's good to confident but one can be too hasty.
YOUR VERY WELL SPOKEN BUT ITS JUST YOUR TRUTH. ITS YOUR INTERPRETATION!!!!!
There's no such thing as "your truth"! There's true or false, period. This is elementary. Everyone doesn't have their OWN TRUTH.
There is no such thing as "your truth". Individuals have opinions, not truths. One of the three fundamental rules of logic is the law of non-contradiction. A and ~A cannot both be true. The concept of "your truth" violates this law.
Your truth and my truth come from a concept called standpoint epistemology made up by university feminists whose theories were being proven wrong by history. They invented this idea so that they could make claims that contradicted historical fact and still call those claims true.
CONSTANTINE MADE IT LAW THAT YOU MUST BE A CHRISTIAN? HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT CONSTANTINE WAS FEELING ??????
Constantine did not make it law that you must be Christian
No, he didn't the edict of Milan allowed religious freedom for all practices in the empire including Christianity.
Christianity didn't become the official religion of the Roman Empire until long after Constantine died.
Look the mountain of bodies done in the name of the Church. That had nothing to do with Christ. Go read foxes book of martyrs. Eusibius. Josephus. Or just keep doing what your doing
@@gradyjohnson7853Neither Eusebius nor Josephus say anything about about the Church ‘killing people’. Foxes book of martyrs refers to Protestant martyrs murdered by the RC Church. Looks like you need to read them yourself.
Christianity was left as the only legal religion on 27 February in 380 AD by emperor Theodosius..... not Constantine. Constantine only decriminalised being a Christian. He died in 337 AD, way before Theodosius made it law.
Man, i just wish that Wes used more conservative words in this interview.
For example, instead of saying this thing happened 2,000 years ago.... You should say, to the best of our understanding, this happened 2,000 years ago.
In fact, he should add that to so many sentences, that it would get annoying after a while.
However, it really bothers me. I just need and acknowledgment that most miniscule of doubt is normal and healthy.
Do we say to the best of our understanding the Holocaust occurred?
Understand what a historian is, esp one holding a doctorate degree.
The great dragon, the serpent from the beginning of times, called devil or the accuser.
Job 1.6, identifies the accuser as a spirit being who is among the benei-elohim. The snake is elohim-kind, one of the council. He is one of the powerful ones (elohim).
The snake (Enki) shows the humans how they can achieve a higher level of consciousness.
@@AyloynOwlFeather yes meso means middle meso is meso America the flying serpent is a quetzal the quetzal is in the Guatemala flag
Exodus 21 : 7-11
That’s bullshit fallen crap. The devil is a fallen angel. Plain and simple.
Jesus is coming and after over 2000 years not coming, he's going to have massive balls.
He's going to flood the planet in jizz
Am I i the only one who sees it? 👀🤔
Yes
Stopping at 1:41 already to question how this man does not know that Paul plagiarized Plato and other early Greek writers,at times word for word?
Must I sit through the rest of this to pick out his "educated" misgivings?
Using an audience's existing culture and body of knowledge to express concepts to them in ways they will understand isn't plagiarism. It's effective communication.
@@patrickbarnes9874 What a massively ignorant response. I am an author and a songwriter. If someone uses my words without quoting me,it's legally called "plagiarism", period,and boy,did Paul plagiarize. You're just another biased soul who refutes truth..
@@patrickbarnes9874 Wow,what a statement! So If I take words from another's known writings,song,or even art - and never give the writers or artists credit,then it's only okay to do it if I'm a Christian,right? That's what you're saying? Because for everyone in this world so far as I know,it's called "plagiarism",by law,and even Xians have to follow the law of the land..
@@brotherlittlefoot2216its not plagiarism, simply more modern adaptations of the same stories of the culture. The plagiarism argument is so ignorant, most of these stories were word of mouth passed from one generation to another. Not an example of plagiarism, as plagiarism is a modern term now that written texts have owners.
@@thealien4863 No,with Paul it's 100% plagiarism bc he did not quote who was said the words;he took credit for himself...And yes,many stories from the Bible were stolen and crafted s if they were actually stories of the People of Abraham,which many are not. If you are okay w cultural appropriation and stealing words and stories from other people to shape who you are,then that's okay w me,until you plagiarize me and I sue you. By the way,I am an author and songwriter w works published,so I might know a thing or 2 about plagiarism... And your argument is beyond worn out,like an old pair of panties.on the other hand,mine you can prove w a little research,but you keep wearing them panties.
When you read the testament of Solomon and Solomon literally talks about zodiacs of the demons he conjured and the book is purposely removed and Christianity is against zodiac
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I want to like you but you contradict your self by arguing with Billy Carson. Alot of what you say sounds similar to his words
Satan is coming
That disgusting filth has already been defeated. I’m not worried.
And he's got a big load
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They all say the same thing bro this guy is saying the same thing Billy is but both of them need ego pumps
Billy ain't saying shit at all the same direction. U trippin. Billy as the lead Anti-Christ for last 7 years(chosen)
I think it’s all a bunch of bullshit. Idk what God is, but I definitely don’t believe God is this man in the sky that’s extremely powerful and perfect, but yet so petty.
@ waking up it’s a beautiful thing all that spiritual is more aligned with the truth but in my opinion it’s just human being just like us smarter that’s it it takes a different type of mind to understand that no disrespect to any religion humans do need someone to lead them that just facts involving myself in this conversation right now it’s actually bringing this type of stuff into my life that I don’t really
Want like I woke up on my birthday October 24 I woke up and my life completely changed I started remembering things from my past and it just all makes sense. I’m talking about my past lives. It’s just it’s it sounds like a bunch of bullshit but shit my understanding has changed and I know I can do anything I don’t fear anything
@@LOVEHERPOISON Very interesting. So after your birthday, have you wanted to become more religious or what has these memories caused you to wanna do, think or believe?
@ the last thing I wanna do is to force my beliefs on anybody that would just make me like everyone else I also understand the power of words I’m meant complete my journey I started 85,000 the best way I know how to explain would be have you watched the movie cloud atlas ?
“The Revelation of Sonmi 451 To be is to be perceived, and so to know thyself is only possible through the eyes of the other. The nature of our immortal lives is in the consequences of our words and deeds, that go on and are pushing themselves throughout all time.
- Our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others, past and present, and by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future.” You must acknowledge and remember who we are especially right now the comet atlas just past by and everyone started having dreams of catastrophes the end of the world and stuff like that these are memories embedded in our souls that are meant to wake us up not put us deeper into fear
Why would you pay this dude for an interview? You trash talked Amon and paid this guy to come on your show and lie to people? Sick, bro
Your terror of the TRUTH is amusing to me.
I don't fear his lies. I fear the morons who believe this bullshhh
@monkeyjshow
Go watch Billy Carson, he's where truth comes from 😂
@firstlast2514 Amon Hillman. I get factual, based translations from legit historical language experts. This clown is on an equal with Billy. Fuggem both
Thank you for breaking this up in clips. I tried to watch in long form but something about this guy really rubs me the wrong way. Like he is a professional bullshitter or something. Taking it all in fragments is definitely how to tolerate his unattractive personality. Why do these religious “scholars” always have to be weirdos? Ammon could be his homeboy.
Your sin betrays you…
Wes’ voice sounds like that AI voice used on all those reels. Try it. Look away and just listen. I legit thought it was AI talking 🤣🤣
Lol
Jesus is God in the flesh who stepped out of eternity and humbled himself to the point of death on a cross to atone for the sins of the world out of love and mercy!
Truth will prevail and is beyond time and understanding.
Islam, Mormonism, Hinduism, Jehovahs Witnesses, Judaism etc.... are all false. Jesus is Messiah and Lord! He is God in the Flesh! He rose on the 3rd day!
Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega! The beginning and the end! The first and the last! He is the Word of God Almighty! He is the Spotless lamb!
God's Word is inseparable from Himself. They're the same being and same essence!
This interview lost you my respect and my subscription
Yeah shame on him for challenging your worldview
Pussy lol
Boo hoo
How many times are you going to whinge in the comments? lmmfao
@caseyanders1601 all of the times
This guy is on par to someone who is a Star Trek fan and speaks Klingon. Good for you to learn about a particular fiction but we have something called reality.
This is strawmanning big time, the “secret wisdom” IS Christ himself
To come to the Father through Christ alone is to acknowledge your Christ nature and embody it
If you think “Gnosticism” is a boogeyman I’d suggest you reconsider it, with appropriate personal discernment from the Holy Spirit
Christians are more often fans of Christ than followers
Gnosticism isn't a boogeyman. That's giving it too much credit. Gnosticism is just incoherent nonsense.
@ you’re quick to reject Christ
“Gnosticism” is a pointed word and label Christians use to deny the more metaphysically challenging realities of Christ
The way you say “that’s giving it too much credit” comes off in an unchristlike bad faith and unintellectual way
I’m not defending Gnosticism, yet you’d rebut me as if I am
“Satan” is not even real. A fictional and mythical being. Same with “God”. Congrats though to everyone who can make money and or power from invoking and manifesting them
I guess all matter just poofed into existance... yeah that's a great explanation buddy. I guess buildings just formed themselves too from a random chance. Newsflash everything has a creator! And God is the creator of all things. Trust in Jesus my friend before it's too late. Do not make that eternal mistake
@@zechschanneldoesn't mean it's a Christian god.
@15walkingaway you show me another God that has as much history and proof compared to Jesus. Let me ask you a question. If you knew christianity were 100 percent true would you become a christian?
considering 80% of the world believes in a form of God you must think you're a genius to "know" more than all of them. E.G.O. Edging God Out.
I think anyone declaring with certainty that God does or does not exist is a fool. No one knows that answer with certainty.
I'll out debate him on this issue. Huge holes in how he represents the history ...its all opinion lol ......Rofl ......he straight starts making shit up after he was asked about the compromises lol
Allahu Akbar. Jesus is not God! Allah is!