Franz moving forward has the ability to play point guard at 6'10 similar to Giannis, Ben Simmons, and Jokic. He's like a 6'10 Lonzo with elite handles.
clicked as soon as i saw this, franz rookie year is so underrated, i havent seen it talked about enough esp his efficiency durin it, feel like thats rare for a rookie, franz has a nice bag and point franz was a real thing initiating some offense and hes one of the best cutters atm also, i think hes got alot more levels to get to also
It’s a great thing somebody is talking about him. I was wondering who was that 22 on the Magic. He’s off ball game was really good against the Lakers game I saw. I didn’t even know he was a new rookie (now a sophomore) last season. The Magic is building, a potentially, good team.
franz is super promising. I can't wait to see what he and the rest of our young core can do. as a big magic fan that also lives in orlando, I can tell you that the city is buzzing about the season coming up. this team is incredibly deep and the chemistry is off the charts.
As a magic fan it feels good to see videos of our squad now that paolos here. Soo many pieces. Wagner is such a stud always composed, 2nd year breakout incoming
His ability to control the ball in tight space is what makes him a special player. Considering he’s more than reliable on D and can actually make decisions on ball, I can easily see him as an all-star player.
Not in that draft. But just bc of that draft class. It’s up there with the best ever as far as top tier prospects. Could be said about other classes, he just isn’t in this one. Cade and Mobley definitely more complete at higher levels and Barnes and franz next. That’s incredible company though, and just the luck of the draw of the class he was in that makes it where you can’t say stuff like that and it be true. He was not the most complete player in that draft and real analysts love him and see him and aren’t overlooking him etc etc etc!and there isn’t even an argument to make that statement true. Which again still is not a knock, it just isn’t true
Yeah Scottie Barnes is not the best player in the class quit capping. I would put it in this order: 1.) Franz 2.) Mobley 3.) Barnes. No bias just personal opinion.
I also compared the two, I saw Deni few years ago in a youth tournament and was impresseed by his technic. But somehow he did not yet come to his real level he could have. Wagner is faster on his way ...
@@antares3796 I feel like if Russ would’ve never went to the Wizards Deni could’ve had a better opportunity with the ball in his hands more…something like wat Luka do since they kind of have the same size
would a corey kispert video ever b possible? He really made a some great leaps in the second half of the season. Other then his shooting, his cutting is something that rlly gives me hope he can become a super solid starter and maybe even a star player one day
You don’t know how to use UA-cam and obviously don’t watch nba content if you think this is the case. There is no media that has been on franz longer than UA-cam bball
One thing I enjoy about your videos (among other things) is your lexicon. Appreciate usage of words like egalitarian instead of phrases such as by committee
He's going fly-under the radar a bit, but everyone knows he will develop into something special. He shoots better than any rookie. But I really think Barnes will top out as the best in class. People say Cade or Mobely, but Barnes did what he did as a role-player last year.
Franz looks like he’s gona be an all star. I’m sure of it. He competes on both ends, can handle, pass, shoot, get his own shot at a quick and agile 6’9.
Not even close in THIS class. Not even a possibility anywhere. Lol talking about teams they play for, all 4 in front of him played for Detroit Cleveland Houston and Toronto lmao (should have only been 3 tho, I def see any magic fan wanting to say it’s BS jalen greens 4 weeks of finally playing good after a trash half a season, got him ahead of franz, but still not team or city based). He finished right behind the best 3, like he should and would have anyway, city and team didn’t matter at all for franz for first place of all spots especially
I really like the guy kind of viewed him as fringe all star potential just a very well rounded player than can do a bit of everything not everyone can be a superstar but guys like him end up being number 2-3 option on contender teams that help push teams over the edge I'm looking forward to watching him and banchero on the wing their games play off of each other really well.
Should have been ROTY with the many top numbers and his versatility. But admitting that would have been too much for NBA establishment, especially since the MVP has been locked in for European for years to come
I think, to your point about Wagner's perception as a playmaker, you have two guys (Barnes and Giddey) who are just as big as Franz and score at a similar clip who have more assists which is how people measure playmaking even for wings and bigs. He didn't get the love for ROY because he was do it all, just like Barnes, but was behind him in stats in nearly every per game category while guys like Cade and Jalen Green were explosive scorers and Mobley had his already all nba level defense and the conversation became do we reward a guy who does everything for a winning team, or do we reward guys who are excelling in single (but very important) areas of the game. Franz being the worse do it all guy on a terrible team was never going to enter that conversation.
He needs to go Cleveland…hear me out shift him to the small forward position combined him with that back court and front court and the League has a real problem!!
Most ppl call it a step thru, I call it a step over and his is insane. Kid has got great potential. Another young good player I would rather see in a different uniform than fighting for minutes on a crowded Orlando front court
@@michaelbarnes2126 Paolo will play the 4 while Issac I think will be off the bench just because of the 2 back to back season ending injuries and I believe the front office would think he needs to chill before getting back to a starter role, trust me I’m really high on Issac but I think it’s best for him to come off the bench and let Franz cook 💪
He had a great year but he was absolutely nowhere close to winning rookie of the year. That’s not to say he didn’t have as good of a season as some of the others, but there was zero chance he was anywhere close. It’s still a media vote award, and his rookie class has 3 guys who came out the gate as the next stars of the nba and solidified the hell out of that. He and no one else was ever going to break into that top 3 voting once each of them played 40 games. Get that title out of here
a rookie who wasn't even best of his class playing for one of the teams with the worst record in the NBA 'needs more respect'. Easy there buddy. He's good, but he's got plenty of time. Let nature take it's course.
As a german, I really hope he fulfills his potential. He's already showing flashes of it at the Eurobasket
He already looks like Germany's best player. Would love to see them with Kleber and Moe Wagner both on the team with Franz and Schröder.
@@Letterman0412 he definitely is Germany's best player. Before Kleber and Schröder.
Schön gesagt mein junge
killed greece in the 2nd half
That Franz x Paolo duo will be sick
The Franz/Paolo/Carter trio might be pretty special.
@@ProductionArtVideo Fultz/Franz/Paolo/Carter/Bol is gonna be special
@@whatitdo5966 wait till JI comes back
Franz moving forward has the ability to play point guard at 6'10 similar to Giannis, Ben Simmons, and Jokic. He's like a 6'10 Lonzo with elite handles.
clicked as soon as i saw this, franz rookie year is so underrated, i havent seen it talked about enough esp his efficiency durin it, feel like thats rare for a rookie, franz has a nice bag and point franz was a real thing initiating some offense and hes one of the best cutters atm also, i think hes got alot more levels to get to also
It’s a great thing somebody is talking about him. I was wondering who was that 22 on the Magic. He’s off ball game was really good against the Lakers game I saw. I didn’t even know he was a new rookie (now a sophomore) last season. The Magic is building, a potentially, good team.
franz is super promising. I can't wait to see what he and the rest of our young core can do. as a big magic fan that also lives in orlando, I can tell you that the city is buzzing about the season coming up. this team is incredibly deep and the chemistry is off the charts.
Dub, another Orlando Magic brethren in Orlando 💪
Haven’t been this excited to be a magic fan since the early Dwight days
As a magic fan it feels good to see videos of our squad now that paolos here. Soo many pieces. Wagner is such a stud always composed, 2nd year breakout incoming
His ability to control the ball in tight space is what makes him a special player. Considering he’s more than reliable on D and can actually make decisions on ball, I can easily see him as an all-star player.
Franz is athletic it’s kind of like Paul George or Paul Pierce it is methodical, he is smart to change his pace in situations
He's trending up so fast that I see him becoming a "superstar " not just an allstar
Bravo best write up on Franz 👏 hope Franz gets enough ball opportunities with Paolo, Fultz, Suggs
My fave rookie from last year. Hope he shows out next season.
This dude is special. The most complete player in the draft
Not in that draft. But just bc of that draft class. It’s up there with the best ever as far as top tier prospects. Could be said about other classes, he just isn’t in this one. Cade and Mobley definitely more complete at higher levels and Barnes and franz next. That’s incredible company though, and just the luck of the draw of the class he was in that makes it where you can’t say stuff like that and it be true. He was not the most complete player in that draft and real analysts love him and see him and aren’t overlooking him etc etc etc!and there isn’t even an argument to make that statement true. Which again still is not a knock, it just isn’t true
@@grapeape1965 Barnes is the best in this draft class then cade, and Mobley. Franz Wagner right after.
@@kelvin7931 Barnes is not the best in the class bro wtf.
Yeah Scottie Barnes is not the best player in the class quit capping. I would put it in this order:
1.) Franz
2.) Mobley
3.) Barnes.
No bias just personal opinion.
What a video. Loved it!
As an Orlando Magic fan, BANGER VIDEOOOOOOOOOOOO 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hes only getting better. So smooth and hes with a young team and playing different roles
I liked his game from the first time I saw him play in the NBA he real crafty with the ball…he’s actually what I thought Deni Avdija was goin to be
I also compared the two, I saw Deni few years ago in a youth tournament and was impresseed by his technic. But somehow he did not yet come to his real level he could have. Wagner is faster on his way ...
@@antares3796 I feel like if Russ would’ve never went to the Wizards Deni could’ve had a better opportunity with the ball in his hands more…something like wat Luka do since they kind of have the same size
would a corey kispert video ever b possible? He really made a some great leaps in the second half of the season. Other then his shooting, his cutting is something that rlly gives me hope he can become a super solid starter and maybe even a star player one day
Finally... a video on Franz
You don’t know how to use UA-cam and obviously don’t watch nba content if you think this is the case. There is no media that has been on franz longer than UA-cam bball
One thing I enjoy about your videos (among other things) is your lexicon. Appreciate usage of words like egalitarian instead of phrases such as by committee
As a magic fan, thank you
Love his game. It's so versatile.
His skill and potential is big time
He's going fly-under the radar a bit, but everyone knows he will develop into something special. He shoots better than any rookie. But I really think Barnes will top out as the best in class. People say Cade or Mobely, but Barnes did what he did as a role-player last year.
Franz Wagner is klay thompson that can self create more often. Sheeeessshhh magic going to be young contenders soon.
Franz looks like he’s gona be an all star. I’m sure of it. He competes on both ends, can handle, pass, shoot, get his own shot at a quick and agile 6’9.
he's 6'8 3/4 w/o shoes. 6'10 with shoes. The magic have an insanely tall team that can shoot.
Make one for Scottie man!! You've done one for all the top rookies
Franz Wagner is so underrated
In other words.....
WE💥G O T💥ALOT💥P O P P I N G
The German Manu Ginobili!
I wish the Warriors picked Wagner instead of Kuminga. I’d rather have Wagner’s well rounded game than Kuminga’s athleticism.
Respect for being honest. Franz in GS would've been so filthy for years to come.
Poole/Moody/Franz...crazy.
Interesting, called him 6’9 throughout the video but finally acknowledged he was 6’10 at the end
I saw him and Scottie’s first matchup live
Wish GSW drafted him. His game fits perfectly there
i had to look up who brandon williams was. portland was really letting this guy chuck 12 shots a game on 37/29/70 splits bruh 😭
I agree
And add
Jalen green deserves more respect
Catching and shooting isn’t even his biggest strength and he’s getting called a 3 and D wing. Franz is so complete for a rookie
Franz Wagner 🏀🔥🙌
Superstar.
Franz Wagner 🔥👏🙌
6'10 right handed manu ginobili.
Franz is cool but do a video on Jalen Green
At the least the Magic are gonna be a fun team to watch
He in my opinion came 1st ROY but playing for Orlando didn’t get him the recognition he deserved
Not even close in THIS class. Not even a possibility anywhere. Lol talking about teams they play for, all 4 in front of him played for Detroit Cleveland Houston and Toronto lmao (should have only been 3 tho, I def see any magic fan wanting to say it’s BS jalen greens 4 weeks of finally playing good after a trash half a season, got him ahead of franz, but still not team or city based). He finished right behind the best 3, like he should and would have anyway, city and team didn’t matter at all for franz for first place of all spots especially
Take a look at last years ROTY scottie barnes compared to franz this season... franz is playing like he should have won it
scoot suggs franz paolo wcj is the next dynasty. alongside primo vassell keldon sochan wemby :)
Golden State really took Kuminga one pick before Wagner
So basically I will be betting him heavy this yr on Fan duel. He hit for me a few times last yr
okay, that's what a 6'11 Austin Reaves would be like...that's what I want Cooper Flagg and Grant Nelson to become like.
He is 6'9...
Remember chris duartes start?
He could be like a new gen hedo turkgolu
I really like the guy kind of viewed him as fringe all star potential just a very well rounded player than can do a bit of everything not everyone can be a superstar but guys like him end up being number 2-3 option on contender teams that help push teams over the edge I'm looking forward to watching him and banchero on the wing their games play off of each other really well.
Should have been ROTY with the many top numbers and his versatility. But admitting that would have been too much for NBA establishment, especially since the MVP has been locked in for European for years to come
W Franz video
FRANZCHISE!!!!
ONLY FRANZ
I think, to your point about Wagner's perception as a playmaker, you have two guys (Barnes and Giddey) who are just as big as Franz and score at a similar clip who have more assists which is how people measure playmaking even for wings and bigs. He didn't get the love for ROY because he was do it all, just like Barnes, but was behind him in stats in nearly every per game category while guys like Cade and Jalen Green were explosive scorers and Mobley had his already all nba level defense and the conversation became do we reward a guy who does everything for a winning team, or do we reward guys who are excelling in single (but very important) areas of the game. Franz being the worse do it all guy on a terrible team was never going to enter that conversation.
Correction: Cade is also a great passer
4:20
The Magic will need to consolidate and upgrade their backcourt
Nick Smith Jr would be perfect for them
bigger version of old gordon Hayward utah days
❤
Franz Wagner seems like one of those players that will be an elite role player for 10+ years in the nba
Stop saying role player. Limiting him fr.
He gets way too many buckets to just be considered a role player. He's more like an elite second option if Paolo can reach superstar potential
He better than a role player
franz wagner
Yeah he's prtty nice but he starts beef for no reason
Nah that’s his brother Mo Wagner 😂
@@Zl0N 💀
They (media) don’t watch magic basketball like the real fans do that’s why he wasn’t the winner
Let's face it, it's reverse racism. Because he's white basketball player.
cuz he's white and European
He needs to go Cleveland…hear me out shift him to the small forward position combined him with that back court and front court and the League has a real problem!!
He’s a Magic
It is becouse he is not Black. He had a better rookie year then Paolo B.
Most ppl call it a step thru, I call it a step over and his is insane. Kid has got great potential. Another young good player I would rather see in a different uniform than fighting for minutes on a crowded Orlando front court
Franz has not and will not be fighting for minutes this year, and that’s a fact
Franz will be starting bro trust, he will do well with us
@@Zl0N I can see it but idk Issac and Paolo that SF spot is gonna be tough to crack
@@michaelbarnes2126 Paolo will play the 4 while Issac I think will be off the bench just because of the 2 back to back season ending injuries and I believe the front office would think he needs to chill before getting back to a starter role, trust me I’m really high on Issac but I think it’s best for him to come off the bench and let Franz cook 💪
@@Zl0N I can see that. I’m a fan of Issac too Franz is very intriguing tho 6’9 with guard skills and high IQ can play both ends i hope he can develop
this video has a shitton of information in it
No. He doesn't. Everyone knows who that is. He's literally one of the most well respected young guys in the league.
He had a great year but he was absolutely nowhere close to winning rookie of the year. That’s not to say he didn’t have as good of a season as some of the others, but there was zero chance he was anywhere close. It’s still a media vote award, and his rookie class has 3 guys who came out the gate as the next stars of the nba and solidified the hell out of that. He and no one else was ever going to break into that top 3 voting once each of them played 40 games. Get that title out of here
If he adds a step back to his game he’s Luka 2.0
He already has it! Been using it a lot in FIBA.
You like that stepback over giannis 😮💨
Who?
He was locked down by some random slovenian player
was ballin out against Slovenia on Wednesday tho🤷♂️
bitched up Greece too 🤷♂️
People sleep on him because of the magics. Magic don't develop players well
That’s gonna change this season 😈
That’s just nba Twitter talk, not a fact
@@burneraccount2290 name 1 prospect developed by the magic since Howard
I can name quite a few busts
He was 5th place my guy that's not close had Barnes cade Mobley and green ahead of him
Jalen Green need more respect, not him
love jalen green but he gets way more love than franz and the biggest part of his game is just his athleticism
L hate
sure hes great but scottie can do everything he can do, but he cant do everything scottie can do
L hate
a rookie who wasn't even best of his class playing for one of the teams with the worst record in the NBA 'needs more respect'.
Easy there buddy. He's good, but he's got plenty of time. Let nature take it's course.