Dr. Peter Ballerstedt - 'When is 'Protein' NOT Protein?'
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- Опубліковано 6 гру 2021
- Peter Ballerstedt (aka The Sodfather) received his Bachelor of Science in Agriculture in 1981 and Master of Science in 1983, both from the University of Georgia. He received his Ph.D. from the University of Kentucky in 1986, specialising in forage management and utilisation, minoring in ruminant nutrition. He was the forage extension specialist at Oregon State University from 1986 to 1992.
He currently works for Barenbrug USA, a grass seed company. His study of human nutrition is fueled by his personal experience. He is an advocate for ruminant animal agriculture and its products, speaking to audiences in several countries about the role of ruminants in humanity’s past, present and future. He strives to build bridges between his agricultural tribe and his low-carb/keto/carnivore tribes. Peter blogs and posts to facebook at “Grass Based Health” and on Twitter and Instagram at @GrassBased. Peter and Nancy live in western Oregon with their two dogs Conor and Noni.
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I just love youtube. Here I am sitting at home taking care of my kid who has a cold and learn all this super interesting things from the couch. Great talk, love that you come from the animal feed side, it just seem more credible and unpolitical. Thank you!
I learnt not to tell people what to eat. I only tell them what happened to me after being diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I think people here know the story.
The sicker you are, the more treatment you get and you get prioritized too. We have backwards incentives. But even with cost sharing, the unhealthy still suffer the physical consequences of their bad decisions.
I don't know the story. if You don't mind, please share. regards.
yup. when they ask me what did i do? then I tell them the "secret" :) I learned not to be "preachy" . I learn for my own benefit and my family. Those who seek will find. I am grateful for these kinds of videos and all these folks teaching us the truth! We have been deceived by corporations and self-serving institutions!
Great talk as always Dr Ballerstedt!
The ruminati are everywhere and constantly growing.
As usual an informative and entertaining presentation.
The Ruminati? Where do I sign up? Do we have a secret handshake?
@@Olivia-W You're a member of the Herd when you say you are! And yes, there's a handshake. I hope we can show you sometime.
Yes we are everywhere! Sharing and learning in our journeys. Hoping to spread good news to Ruminations!
@@Don_Pedro-SodFather I just joined the herd!
I appreciate Dr. Ballerstedt's stance that his objective is simply 'to make information available' to help people on their journeys so they can make more informed decisions. I thought I was making an informed decision 20 years ago when I went 'low-fat' hoping to avoid my father's heart disease. Turns out, that was not a well-informed decision. I did not then know what a carb was, what insulin resistance was, what drives heart disease. Now, thanks to freedom of info on youtube, I do. Now, I sharply limit carbs. Thx for sharing, Doc.
I am my friends and family’s Guinea pig 🐖. Once they see my results they hopefully will try to change the way they think about meat, animal fat and low carb eating. Thank y’all for all of your open minded honest research. God always raises up willing people to correct man’s errors and outright corruption.
me too bro🐖
Indians used to use ghee to cook with but they've been sucked into the western world diet and are now (much of the time) using seed oils without realizing the damage they're doing to themselves as they're vegetarians.
I suspect the switch happened because vegetable oils are cheaper than ghee.
@@trucid2 Because industry figured out how to make it cheaply. And the rest is capitalism!
@@trucid2 yup
seed oils are inflammatory! bingo! seed oils are not a natural part of a human/ hominid diet. many health experts and doctors ( dr caldwell essetyn, explain the damage seed oils cause to the endothelium and arteries)
Ghee ironically is fat minus the proteins, which burn if u fry in butter.
This is EXCELLENT! Excellent, just excellent.
Peter is honest, intelligent, well spoken
Also humble and a rivetting speaker.
Funny too!
Peter's talks are never long enough, I could've listened for twice as long.
Great talk, thank you! With the demonizing of fat (thank you food pyramid) and now people waking up to the downside of sugary refined carbs... people seem to be left with the conclusion that adding "protein" to the packaging of all existing processed foods (including water) is the bullet proof solution to fix our health crisis. I really appreciate you explaining how dietary protein really works and what is really happening.
Peter is such a delight! What a terrific speaker.
We, as a species on this planet, are busy with our lives basically since we were able to walk. We depended on government, agriculture, medicine, etc., to give us trusted information we needed to live a safe and healthy lifestyle. Now we are seeing on a large scale it was far from the truth. Much research is necessary and vital on a personal level to navigate through all of the misinformation we were given and uncover what is actually good for us and our families. Our health and well being depends on it. Blessings to you Dr. Ballerstedt for the betterment of mankind. 🙏❤️
This is an xcellent lecture that answers many questions about protein sources and recommended amounts. Most people new to high protein diets will benefit from this information. Thank you for an excellent presentation Dr Ballerstedt.
High protein may not be good. High fat moderate protein allows the body to use old proteins through autophagy. If you are loaded with protein then this will be suppressed and MTOR is also a issue.
Outstanding talk. Thank you! I subscribe/listen to your "Heardmates" podcast, but the passion in this talk is a cut above!
What an incredible presentation. Both the content and delivery.
Further information to show that plant based diets aren't as environmentally friendly on a quality protein basis. To say nothing about nutritionally inferior.
when it consists of congealed soy residue aggregates so that it can be called 'plant-based' protein.
Outstanding enlightening talk!!!
Extremely interesting and comprehensive material!
The title under-sells this masterful informative presentation
Actually, it was quite a misleading talk delivered by someone whose paycheck depends on meat consumption and who is obviously promoting more meat consumption while not telling his audience the whole story. Most Americans eat too much protein and far too much animal protein, and eating more plant protein instead is healthier.
Properly managed regenerative agriculture is the answer for human health and environment both!
To feed animals with... we simply aren't designed to eat grains... unless a animal eats it first
There is no way for eight billion humans to eat as many livestock as we are raising and for it to be anything other than DEgenerative. And yes, David, humans are perfectly well suited to eat organic whole grains. People who eat more whole intact grains are slimmer, have less diabetes, and have better heart health, brain health, and longevity. But eating too much fat then eating processed carbs on top of that is a disaster.
WAOW!!!…this conversation has been long overdue in my personal life. I’ve been lost in a sea nutritional confusion over the years😖. Born in a third world country, I’m that first baby that suffered with kwashiorkor when the second baby was born😣. I remember those days when my gut was bloated so badly I cried loudly and irritatingly every single day. When food became available, it was some form of carbohydrate dense food or cow’s milk, and I had a gut intolerance to all of it; esp the cows milk (likely processed). My choices as a toddler was starvation, or pain for many hours and days after eating those foods. Listening to this talk gives me tremendous clarity as to why my body never developed well when I entered puberty; along with several other dysfunctions and ills I’ve carried all my life. The carnivore lifestyle has been the nearest life-saver for me for sure; and this talk has given me so much more insight…the fact that I have been chronically protein deficient nearly all my life. I’m 53 and a little late in the game, but feel much more confident that I may actually have some kind of control as to how things go for me for the remainder of my maturing years🙏🏽🙂
I am coming back to this after listening to 15 min of Joe Rogan interviewing the authors of Sacred Cow. At about that mark, Joe asks one of the authors how the protein of beef vs broccoli differ. She is unable to answer. I wish this talk by Dr. Ballerstedt got as much publicity as that book. Or even if the authors were about to use him as a source.
I learned so much from this presentation. It’s phenomenal! Please do more presentations.
In summary, eat your meat and enjoy it!🥩🥓😋
But nearly all fat people do. That makes things confusing.
Outstanding!! Thank you
Cheers from Brazil.
Dr. B is amazing 🙌🏻
This is fantastic!!! Thank you so much for sharing this knowledge bomb!
Very interesting and informative.
A very informative presentation, thank you.
wow. excellent talk!
Thank you!
Fantastic video content!
it makes sense to me that a lysine deficiency would cause fat accumulation as i would think the body, not wanting to be wasteful, would then convert the excess protein to glucose which could end up convert to and stored as fat.
very interesting. if You get time, please research this and then share with Us. regards.
@@wolfrahmphosphoros5808 please are you serious about asking the other author To whom you're replying about doing that research and then sharing it with you? Do your own research for god sakes. You doing the work will result in you remembering and absorbing what you are researching. Be the responsible person. Do your own due diligence
@@wolfrahmphosphoros5808 This is how the body works. It converts excess protein to carbs / fat.
You are correct, any plant protein not used as protein by your body is coverted to energy.
Man, I knew we were seriously failing the generation on protein, but this is massive.
Except the whole video is totally misleading, designed to sell meat. The reality is that most people in developed nations are eating more protein than they need, and far more animal protein than is healthy.
Wow eye opener, thank you
Is there a danger from too much animal based protein? Has anyone ever tried to overeat on a large quantity of meat? It's extremely difficult. Once you're stuffed, you're stuffed, and chances are you won't be hungry for a very long time afterwards.
Yeah you always hear arguments from the veg community saying they don’t like eating meat because it makes them feel so heavy or whatever. Yeah sunshine that’s your appetite saying cool thanks we’re full…
But on the other hand there’s a book called “eat like the animals” where they figured that all animals from locusts to 🐀 to baboons always stuck to a specific range of protein and never exceeded that in spite of maybe exceeding total calories (depending on protein density of food). But they reckon that it might be dangerous to exceed that amount of protein because it maybe makes you age faster or something. But the point is that your natural pre programmed appetite stops you from eating more. So like unless you’re in a hot dog eating contest or are chugging protein shakes or something; you’re kinda not capable of overeating 🍳 🥩 🐟 🥛
I'm carnivore for almost 2 years and eat about 1.5kg meat/day. Haven't had a real problem, only thrived in every metric I can think of. You just get full and find the meat bland when you hit satiety.
animal protein is not a balanced diet alone.
One assumes the problem would mainly be all of the added protein (soy, almond flour, etc) and amino acids. As you suggest, it's next to impossible to eat massive amounts of meat at any one time. I know that is true for me.
Phew I thought your first sentence was serious
So good!
Interesting about the peas. Since peas form a HUGE part of dog and cat kibble.
Yes they give dogs heart decease, cancer, arthritis etc
Excellent
Very informative video
Well, I learned something today.
I felt mildly guilty at not eating a lot of vegetables on my very low carb diet, and that I was eating more high protein than high fat.
Good to know I shouldn't feel guilty at all and continue on my cheesy beef and eggy bacon bonanza.
Real food: animal protein, animal fat.
Subsistence food: starches, sugars, plant protein.
Our modern diet of processed food and drink full of sugar and junk starches constantly mimics a subsistence state where fat is conserved no matter how much we eat. We beome fat and insulin resistant and malnourished all at the same time.
So well prepared with information And slides to prove what he says is true thank you for all your effort. You vegans, I’ll eat your share of animal protein!
Brilliant presentation, thanks Doc 👏 🥩💪
i agree with all you've said.
Speechless. Thank you. Too bad it goes against pretty much every agenda out there.
This lecture IS an agenda. No one's this ignorant.
PS, I watched it while eating potatoes, oats and broccoli. I've been getting 50g of protein a day for 10 years. ;)
@@GaryHighFruit I listened while having a bowl of ground lamb. My one and only meal for the day...so satisfying!
Another fantastic lecture.
Danke !!!
6:40 just to touch on this. Protein is the ONLY macro nutrient, to result in a comorbidity when consumed in too low a quantity. The effects of consuming too little carbs or fats are easier to reverse and do not contribute to worsening outcomes of other diseases. Yet recommended diets prioritize high amounts of carbs and fats that, as an inverse of protein, are more dangerous when consumed in high quantities.
The diets that have achieved the best overall long-term health outcomes are diets in which the majority to vast majority of calories come from whole food carbs, and they get fewer calories than Americans do from fat and animal foods. Disease rates ramp up with higher animal fat and protein consumption.
@@karlwheatley1244 but how do you explain the instance of diabetes amongst Americans vs a nation like France where lipids are a diet priority?
@@karlwheatley1244 They also get fewer calories from sugars, but you cherry-pick facts to back up your bogus point.
Love Dr Ballerstadt! So informative, with a deep understanding of the situation.
Speaking as a researcher, what unfortunate is that Dr. B. is badly misleading people about protein. Most people in wealthy nations get TOO MUCH animal protein, and they would be healthier if they got less.
Wow, just wow!
"When is a gift not a gift?" Baron Harkonnen
Ok,,,,, then dry dog and cat food is crap. They always calculate Crude protein first with some hi number even though the food smells like cardboard. If you want to see your pet go down feed dry food only.
It is so humble to see the push back from the food pyramid which we should eat more cereal than meat
"But i digest" lol 17:45
No children, but the Dad Jokes were on point.
Changes everything. Wow.
My bad cholesterol levels were horrendously high and my good cholesterol levels were extremely low arteries were partially clogged and my organs were barely ok. This is what convinced me to do intermittent fasting one meal a day keto meat and fat with 20 grams of carbs in real low impact carbs. I drink a cup of coffee with butter coconut oil and butter as well as 3 tablespoons of heavy whipping cream and I drink 6 tablespoons of heavy whipping cream for my brunch and dinner I try to get 80-100 grams of protein and 20 grams of leafy greens. I’ve lost 18 pounds in in 20 days and my Np told me that she wanted to start me on statins and I told her no thank you but rather schedule me another blood panel in 6 months and then I Will determine if I need a statin if my cholesterol and my overall health hasn’t improved.
Six months on...any results to report?
What I don’t get is, why don’t the speakers of this channel go on inter/national tv to debate and share their work ? This is important information that could impact everyone and it’s hidden in a low carb community information bubble
Because they're wrong and misinterpret the studies they use
@@DuffBlufff maybe, maybe not. the fact that they never debate and/or share the knowledge in a wider forum do seem very unscientific. if you are sure in your research/hypothesis, you'll let others challenge it.
@@lidorcohen3113 Because there might be a bias against , not only from nutritional standpoint but political, religious etc already in place that does not allow for it? If you listened to a couple of interviews with Calley Means the food industry, mainly processed food spend about two or three times as much on lobbying compared to the petroleum industry. And they also kind of watch their interest by kind of campaigns that are not obvious as who is behind the message. Like for instance the idea of doing away with soda being allowed food at foodstamps got one of the soda companies encouraging "debate" on such a measure in practice would be racist.
Television exists to sell you stuff. That is its entire purpose. It exists for the benefit of mega-corporations, so that they can tell the consumer what to buy. It does not exist for "entertainment." The entertainment aspect is only what gets you to turn the thing on. It's like the glittery lure on a fishing line. But the actual meaning of the line is the hook.
Now, bearing that in mind, why on Earth would the mega-corporations want to let someone whose message counteracts their own take up any sliver of time on the machine that belongs to them, that exists to serve them?
Because MSM shut down the ones who speak the truth
What about the studies by valter longo and David Sinclair on methionine and life extension ? Thanks
Valter Longo is a fraud and a quack.
Great lecture. Check out Bart Kay's assessment of Dave Feldman's new research on "lean mass hyper-responders"... that'll make sense with the picture of the "really smart ppl" photo.... there's always more to learn :-))
wowowowo so great!
Beautiful ❤️
Ballerstedt is so very good
What an interesting lovely man! Explains what he knows; says where there’s something he doesn’t know…
I wonder that if you provided pigs with an unlimited and varied diet if the favorite that they gravitate towards wouldn’t have the ideal mix? (see book called easy like the animals) but like ideal for pig and ideal for consumer might not be the same.
Low carb is the best why forword to heal carb Toxicisity .
How can we get the links in the presentation? Cant find a website for him.
What are your thoughts on the US animal agriculture standards/practices and the enivronmental impact caused from supporting an increase in the consumption of animal protein? What are your thoughts on the use of hormones/antibiotics fed to the animals, which humans, in turn, consume? What is your perspective on the majority of grain/corn grown in the US is used as animal feed and is that figure acounted for in the environmental impact of animal protein? Thank you and great lecture.
Considering most of us that eat keto never ever eat foods that have labels why would we look at stuff like that?
"...most [...] that eat keto never ever eat foods that have labels..." That sounds unlikely. Source?
@@aliendroneservices6621 Yes, meat comes in packages with a label, but I'm sure he is talking about the "nutritional" labels that give the percentages of fat, protein, number of carbs, etc. Fresh meat and vegetables don't have nutritional labels. That's what's on a keto meal plan.
@@jselectronics8215 bullshit. keto meal plans are all over the place. There are so calledketo prepackaged foods all over.
Keto is a failure plan.
Strict carnivore no plants is what you want.
yeah when I have time I eat home made food but sometimes work gets crazy and I’m on sites all day and then I pop to the shop. Its nearly impossible to find food without seed oils in even though the food might meet keto macros. I’m getting pretty damn tired of boiled eggs and biltong (jerky) though 😹 sometimes you fall off the wagon though
Supermarket meats & vegetables usually do. I often eat frozen vegetables, minced beef, canned tuna, boxes of eggs, cartons of cream etc. And these always have the nutritional labels on them.
People who watched this: 1% Doctors 1% Scientists 1% Students/Researchers 97% people in the fitness community.... the ordinary person will never watch something as informative as this 1hr presentation
I'm a regular Joe!
I am also an 'ordinary person ' . I have followed LCDU for some years. Always useful and informative info that I use and disseminate to friends. I have cured my diabetes with the support of this knowledge.
I'm a stay at home mom....
Never say never!
You're basing these statistics on what?
I nursed my first baby until he stopped wanting his "comfort food ". I added solid food near his first birthday and beef was the main protein for his nutrition because I knew he needed a lot of nutrition to grow well. Now he is 6'2" and an MDPHD.
Great job, mom! You deserve a medal.
i feel guilty because i spent nagging my children to eat veggies, not I am telling them to eat meat! I did not know better, i am so mad at being deceieved and mis-informed and lied to!
Poor 76 year old bloke had some goods questions and I think Peter wanted to hear about it too but they were interrupted...
Great stuff, thanks. More good stuff find Bart Kay
Where can I be apart of a clinical trial?
I want to know too.
Stick around for Q&A, it's VERY good.
It's possible to get too much animal sourced foods, but you have to choose really lean foods and actively work at it.
I still cant find the slides to this smh. Please help
If we are overweight and fast, how much protein do we recycle from our own bodies?
You will recycle protein from all fat cell membranes, visceral fat, and loose skin. The speaker's body,around his head, appears to never had the experience of reabsorbtion of skin cell protein through fasting.
Information+
Wow , I was married to a family practice doctor MOST will not even entertain this as thought let alone a reality ! It's so basic you do not need to be that well educated to understand that throwing sugar ( all carbs ) into a machine that can not tolerate sugar is kinda dumb . And that's the diet program for diabetes 😂
We can handle sugar.... We just need fat and protein FIRST.
@@steakovercake3986 I'd add to that based on my understanding of the randle cycle, fat OR sugar. Cells only use 1 substrate at a time and too much of both triggers randle cycle.
@@steakovercake3986 With sugar, the dose is the poison. Tim Noakes states that that dose is about 1 tsp/dL. With sugars being in just about every processed food, no wonder we have a diabetes epidemic. The body can perform gluconeogenesis if it has to, but works amazingly well on just meat and fat alone.
i would be intrested about if potassium is needed from plants but im pretty sure its not but still its a question mark for me but then i think about how i ate for years no vegetables or what ever and i was still alive and there is not much potassium in noodles and bread
real and honest science gets in the way of their agendas.
IIRC the 9 Calories per gram figure for fat assumes a certain length of carbon chains in the carboxylic acids, and medium-chain triglycerides (in coconut oil and butter) are closer to 8. Presumably short-chain triglycerides like triacetin have even less energy per gram, but I don't know how much.
Is Holiday Inn posh or ghetto?
There's one situation where too much protein is harmful. It's if you don't have enough fat with it, this is called protein toxicity, or less formally rabbit starvation.
"There's one situation where too much protein is harmful." In fact, MOST people in wealthy nations eat too much animal protein, and doing so ramps up rates of a variety of diseases.
@@karlwheatley1244 Your skull must be too thick to comprehend this video.
At a wild guess, nobody on the USDA Dietary Guidelines committee knows any of this. Otherwise, they wouldn’t have passed a Vegetarian Option on the back of a single study.
That intro music always makes me think it's about to play Rick Steve's 😅
Great talk, I really appreciated the slides comparing different foods by digestible lysine rather than the usual per calories basis. People who want to suppress meat from our food supply for ecological reasons are so wrong!
Mostly it's emotional based nonsense.... we just run better on protein and fats.. impossible to do on a plant based diet....
they just want to control you!
A really powerful presentation. The message about the low presence in plants of limiting amino acids, for instance lysine, is so important, & likewise the environmental & health reality of neglecting to address this deficiency in plant sourced protein. Thanks so much for this crucial information.
Bioavailable protein is clearly a huge issue globally, & even more so for girls & women.
Yes! Especially as many cultures favour giving the best quality protein to boys and men. And then, if you're looking at red meat, the women also miss out on the bio-available iron, despite having a greater need than the men.
It makes me wonder if perhaps the world has never seen a "real" woman? I mean, a woman who achieved her full, optimal physical potential. If little baby girls were raised entirely on breast milk and fatty beef, would we see a generation of seven foot Amazons come down the line? I hope we find out someday.
What about those who say protein activates mtor thus increases risk of cancer a lot?
Insulin also activates MTOR. Because of this, eating a high carb diet is likely more aging than eating a high protein diet.
Also, if you understand associations, you realize that the association between meat eating and cancer is so small and inconsistent as to be utterly meaningless. People keep looking for possible mechanism about how meat can cause cancer when there isn’t even a meaningful association. It’s wishful thinking on the part of the vegan zealots posing as scientists.
No evidence that mtor increases risk of cancer
If lysine is the most essential protein which limits bioavailability of other essential proteins via synergistic functions, then how does one maximize that first order limitation & the cascade of proteins that are dependently limited & essential on each cascading level?
eat more lysine? like cerals. I dunno Im no expert, the food doesn't even have aminoacids on its labels.
When it comes from a plant?
He was slow to get to the meat of the matter (pun intended!), but I'm glad I took the trouble to listen all the way to the end.
There actually is vitamin C in meat.
Ruminants make their own vitamin C so it makes sense that it’s in the tissues.
Yeah, so if you eat low carb enough the vitamin C from meat is enough.
@@loganwolv3393 or two cups of milk or a pound of red meat in spite of low carb
Especially if you eat the liver!
Question?!? I thought “processed meats” and Nitrates where considered a poison/carcinogen?
Important to note that enough Sodium is needed for absorption of Vit C - including in the gut and brain. For this - amongst various other reasons - a diet low in salt, is not beneficial. Interesting to take note of the suggestion that Heart Disease could be a form of Scurvy.
hmm what about vitamin B6 converting one amino acid into another? Doesn't it solve the barrel problem on its own?
If that worked there would be no essential AAs
Taking B6, without monitor levels in blood, risks toxicity from B6 excess. It is one B vitamin that gas this issue.
Same with selenium (not a B vitamin, of course, but out of lab range means toxicity). One would need to closely monitor.
Brewers grains are boiled and strained, not fermented.
17:30
Now I dont have to feel guilty eating steak and back-ribs!
That's the idea. : )
Unless they’re covered in BBQ sauce! Good alternative-cook pork with sauerkraut!