I find that I can do intensive reading for a couple weeks and then I usually get bored and lose focus. With extensive, that doesn't really happen as much because I am getting to more content from a variety of sources. However, I feel intensive is almost a must at the beginning of a language which is far from your own. I've been studying Korean for about 2 months now, and I still feel like I need to do intensive reading because there are patterns I still don't grasp, although at the same time, I feel I need to immerse myself and do more extensive. I know Steve Kauffman learns his languages mainly through extensive, so I may need to just take the leap.
Yeah I think it's a two stage process. At the start you have to go through an intensive process of learning, before which reading authentic material is not really possible. But there comes a tipping point eventually where extensive reading becomes possible.
Exactly! I'm currently stuck with intensive reading in Korean though😬I guess I should take a step back and enjoy the process more but sometimes I just wish learning a language would be quicker than it is. But it is becoming easier!☺
I find that I pretty much don't do any intensive reading in most languages. In English say, I've only done intensive reading with the useless stuff we had to do for school and with my Italian, which I now polish and try to get to a really high level, I haven't done any intensive reading at all. But with Japanese for example, I think it is sensible to do it in the beginning, because the language is so different from all the languages I know. Therefore, all in all, I think it is not necessary and mostly a waste of time in the languages that are close to the ones one knows, because you get enough stuff for free from the get go, so you can immediately start reading extensively and as a consequence, start to grow your vocabulary naturally and quickly.
Exactly my experience. In my European languages I've only ever immersed myself and leant naturally. In Asian languages it's a totally different experience and I'm mostly studying intensively for a loooooong time before I can do anything useful.
Interesting. Maybe our apporaches are more similar than it would seem after all. I certainly enjoy your podcast and I just yesterday took my first italki lesson. I used English though, just to see how the system works. But man, half an hour does fly by fast, doesn't it? (At least, when you can express yourself. It doesn't seem so fast, if you are still early on in the learning journey...)
@@storylearningHi i am new in spanish course i have two options intensive learning require 8 weeks and extensive learning require 12 weeks so plz tell me which one is best bcz i want to learn quickly
So for extensive reading , Does it mean that whenever I read a novel and when I come across a difficult word, I just move on instead of looking up its meaning in the dictionary ?
I think that you can choose your kind of reading for example extensive reading just read to have a general idea but extensive reading is to read in detail . So if your purpose from reading a novel is just know what is the subject and don't learn new words here you do an extensive reading But if your purpose is enriching your vocabulary and research the meaning of difficult words in the dictionary here you are doing an intensive reading .
I am in trouble, I heard from aj hoge that i shouuld repeat the same content too many times , steve kaufman said that I should learn form different sources and I don’t know what should I do 😢
I am in trouble, I heard from aj hoge that i shouuld repeat the same content too many times , steve kaufman said that I should learn form different sources and I don’t know what should I do
Indeed. Interesting to me the length of time on first stage. As a native English speaker I moved into extensive in a few month with Spanish and am still at intensive after 3 months with German. I wonder if it will be a year when I hit Korean?
I'm not sure whether extensive reading is a good idea for a language that uses Chinese characters at an intermediate level. You're a lot more likely to get the pronunciation totally wrong for new words you pick up.
Maybe you don't need to know the pronunciation immediately. By reading extensively (if you can, and it's not too hard), you can learn a lot from context.
I am in trouble, I heard from aj hoge that i shouuld repeat the same content too many times , steve kaufman said that I should learn form different sources and I don’t know what should I do
I am in trouble, I heard from aj hoge that i shouuld repeat the same content too many times , steve kaufman said that I should learn form different sources and I don’t know what should I do 😢
I love a mix of intensive and extensive, I read extensively but when it comes to new words I do intensive reading.
I find that I can do intensive reading for a couple weeks and then I usually get bored and lose focus. With extensive, that doesn't really happen as much because I am getting to more content from a variety of sources. However, I feel intensive is almost a must at the beginning of a language which is far from your own. I've been studying Korean for about 2 months now, and I still feel like I need to do intensive reading because there are patterns I still don't grasp, although at the same time, I feel I need to immerse myself and do more extensive. I know Steve Kauffman learns his languages mainly through extensive, so I may need to just take the leap.
Yeah I think it's a two stage process. At the start you have to go through an intensive process of learning, before which reading authentic material is not really possible. But there comes a tipping point eventually where extensive reading becomes possible.
Exactly! I'm currently stuck with intensive reading in Korean though😬I guess I should take a step back and enjoy the process more but sometimes I just wish learning a language would be quicker than it is. But it is becoming easier!☺
How's your Korean coming along
How's your Korean coming along?
I find that I pretty much don't do any intensive reading in most languages. In English say, I've only done intensive reading with the useless stuff we had to do for school and with my Italian, which I now polish and try to get to a really high level, I haven't done any intensive reading at all. But with Japanese for example, I think it is sensible to do it in the beginning, because the language is so different from all the languages I know. Therefore, all in all, I think it is not necessary and mostly a waste of time in the languages that are close to the ones one knows, because you get enough stuff for free from the get go, so you can immediately start reading extensively and as a consequence, start to grow your vocabulary naturally and quickly.
Exactly my experience. In my European languages I've only ever immersed myself and leant naturally. In Asian languages it's a totally different experience and I'm mostly studying intensively for a loooooong time before I can do anything useful.
Interesting. Maybe our apporaches are more similar than it would seem after all. I certainly enjoy your podcast and I just yesterday took my first italki lesson. I used English though, just to see how the system works. But man, half an hour does fly by fast, doesn't it? (At least, when you can express yourself. It doesn't seem so fast, if you are still early on in the learning journey...)
I really needed a reminder.
For me, extensive reading and intensive listening is the way to go.
Interesting perspective. I suppose extensive listening is more of a given... inevitable if you live in the country at least.
@@storylearningHi i am new in spanish course i have two options intensive learning require 8 weeks and extensive learning require 12 weeks so plz tell me which one is best bcz i want to learn quickly
Doing it now for german
Thanks for great insights about the types of reading ..! :)
Thanks for the tip Olly
Thnx for the good explanation
So for extensive reading , Does it mean that whenever I read a novel and when I come across a difficult word, I just move on instead of looking up its meaning in the dictionary ?
I think that you can choose your kind of reading for example extensive reading just read to have a general idea but extensive reading is to read in detail .
So if your purpose from reading a novel is just know what is the subject and don't learn new words here you do an extensive reading
But if your purpose is enriching your vocabulary and research the meaning of difficult words in the dictionary here you are doing an intensive reading .
I am in trouble, I heard from aj hoge that i shouuld repeat the same content too many times , steve kaufman said that I should learn form different sources and I don’t know what should I do 😢
I am in trouble, I heard from aj hoge that i shouuld repeat the same content too many times , steve kaufman said that I should learn form different sources and I don’t know what should I do
great video
Indeed. Interesting to me the length of time on first stage. As a native English speaker I moved into extensive in a few month with Spanish and am still at intensive after 3 months with German. I wonder if it will be a year when I hit Korean?
I found intensive reading so dull
I'm not sure whether extensive reading is a good idea for a language that uses Chinese characters at an intermediate level. You're a lot more likely to get the pronunciation totally wrong for new words you pick up.
Maybe you don't need to know the pronunciation immediately. By reading extensively (if you can, and it's not too hard), you can learn a lot from context.
I am in trouble, I heard from aj hoge that i shouuld repeat the same content too many times , steve kaufman said that I should learn form different sources and I don’t know what should I do
I am in trouble, I heard from aj hoge that i shouuld repeat the same content too many times , steve kaufman said that I should learn form different sources and I don’t know what should I do 😢