25, watching all the 45+ people at my same jobs, absolutely hating their lives talking as though they’re trapped in this hell of a company with no escape… I was making really good money but questioned whether or not this is what 80% of my life was going to continue being and I snapped, saved up a nest egg and got the fuck outta there started my own moving company in town and things have been going solid ever since.
I see this alot. I don't think it's the job. But the mindset of the man. Money isn't everything and that's a hard lesson to learn in itself. But I've seen people "stuck" in their job or career making $160,000-$220,000 a year. In no way at all is that a dead end job. They just feel wasted for doing what they do. Meanwhile many others in the same careers find great fulfillment in the work. Next time you see a man complaining he's working a career. Do not assess the job, assess that man. Because if you can keep your head up in a career where those old timers are stuck with their heads down, you will succeed, you will be upper management one day.
Happened to me. In my 20’s it was all about lifting heavy, eating everything and bulking. Now at 30 I’ve started caring about my actual health, doing cardio, training flexibility, functionality, focusing more on calisthenics, etc
I'm in my mid 30s and I realized that with the right approach you can still build and maintain muscle at your current age. Sure you might not have the vigor and enthusiasm you might have had in your 20s but if you have a consistent sleeping pattern, train smart, eat accordingly & get sufficient recovery you can maintain and still get stronger. It's a lot harder but it's possible. As Mike Tyson says '30 is still a baby'. 😃
I'm the opposite, I'm in my 30s and i know I'm going to die so I'm always going heavy and try to kill myself fast, 405 squat is so yesterday I'm trying to race to 500
@@bonechip01 Nah, but “third life crisis” sounds like you’ve lived 3 lives and are now having a crisis. Besides, (and this is a new idea I’ve just now cooked up) you could divide your lifespan into “quarters” but each epoch isn’t the same number of years. The late 20s might be the end of the 2nd quarter of young adulthood not the 1st of childhood, but “quarter life crisis” does distinguish it from a “midlife crises” of one’s 40s/50s, which really might be a “three quarters life crisis” because it’s the transition between regular adulthood and old age. So maybe teenage angst should be the quarter life crisis. Mid 20s-early 30s the midlife crises. 40s/50s the 3/4 life crisis. And an elderly person fearing death and having anxiety over their legacy or lack thereof being an end of life crisis. Idk, just spit-balling.
I think it's because when you're in your 20s you have little to no status so you have to compensate by trying to be aesthetic, but when you start to gain status you shift more away from aesthetics to functionality. You realize functionality is more important for long term health and well being.
@@bawseeeee602 Perhaps. It wouldn't be surprising to me, because for young adults, men or not, health tends to rank pretty low in their priorities, or at least commonly is ranked lower than some other things, status or otherwise. And really, it makes some sense. With the vigor and recovery of young adulthood, is there another stage in life when it makes more sense to chase other things than health? It's probably the best time for risky behavior, ideally with some good purpose to them. There's probably good reason (or a few) why this is common behavior.
David Brooks calls it the “second mountain”. A lot of men reroute the trajectory or at least question their careers and life choices in their early 30’s.
I’m doing this at 24 lol. Granted I’ve never worked in any particular career field for too long. I’m working an entry level job currently and working on growing a business.
I got out of the military at 24 years old, and went down a bad path because I felt like I had nothing. Im 30 now, and after fucking around for 6 years I finally am on a straight path. I think it really takes full maturity to see the perspective of the importance of the rest of our lives. Like from 18 through my 20's I didn't give a shit what I did to my body because I couldn't really comprehend the consequences. Thats why its so saddening when I see teenagers on a shit ton of gear with that naive perspective that they dont care about the rest of their lives. Our mental and physical health are important, and when dying from having an enlarged heart due to years of drug abuse, I can guarantee they won't be thinking "Ah but those golden years where I looked good were worth this."
Only time will tell but I *think* I'm in the midst of that in my late 20s now. I was a bit aimless in the early 20s, had a pretty chill life around my family. Decided to get a masters degree to refocus my skills into something I like (from pure engineering to microbiology). It's almost complete and will likely require me to move somewhere new to find work, so it feels like this chapter of my life is wrapping up. But it is certainly exciting
Hit this late last year, after a break up, I now don’t drink or play video games and extend my gym sessions, it’s helping to honestly deal with feelings of constant loneliness not sure if they will ever go away but it’s better
Did you maintain your friendships when you were in a relationship? Most guys negate their friends, resulting in them having near no friends if their dating/marriage fails.
@bobsaysdiex You are a smart man for noticing early! I kind of fell into that trap a little these past 2ish years. I've been thinking of a game plan to reactivate some slighlty lost people. Don't lose your identity while dating or marriage! You'll have nothing if the relationship fails.
We must have close bdays, I just turned 30 too. I wouldn’t say I’m in my prime or downfall but I would say my priorities have changed and I think that’s what he was trying to say
Agree dude. Most of my friends seem to have given up at 31 cause they’re “too old” which I think is insane, I’m in the best shape of my life at 31 and continue to get fitter/stronger, it’s all mentality. We’re still young!
@@lordnicholasbendtner1333 I just fought an MMA fight and went the distance. I didn't even feel tired. Didn't sit on a stool in between rounds. Stood. I'm 39. People just look for excuses. Age is another excuse.
@@theadirondackstackerlove that 🙏 I play football myself, it’s known as a young man’s game so I sometimes get worried about how much longer I’ll be able to play for despite not slowing down just yet, but you’ve inspired me and made me look forward to the years ahead even more!
I think it’s weird my buddies who are all most 30 have the urge to go out partying every weekend like when we were 17. They have decent jobs but most of the time they’re broke and in debt
This is why i never let anyone else define what my life should be or what it should look like. You are the one who decides what you do, how you do it, and why.
I’m 29. Had health issues as a kid and it motivated me to start eating healthy at 9. Never looked back. I’ve always been extremely driven / motivated but the older I grow I realize the sacrifices that are required for whatever path you go down. As they say everything is hard. You need to pick your hard.
Physically, I squandered my 20s. But I worked hard, got married, and had kids. Now, in my 30s, I am trying to make up for my lack of exercise. I think this pattern is only for men who did not find a wife early.
What is so sad about your life you assume things will go poorly for me. I have been happily married for 15 years. My parents for over 40. My grandparents for over 60. It is not rare. @@DTreatz
I’m 37 and went through this like 4 years ago , once you change your perception and reallocate your time and energy in the areas that benefit you if what you see as best for your life it changes you in every metric . I now wake up grateful and stop to look at beautiful sights , appreciate the small things in life that would have just passed me by previously.
Happened to me too. In my 20s I was your regular gym bro. "Discovered" Muaythai at age 31, changed my life completely and never looked back. A decade later I'm still going strong
Manopause is later, late 40s to 50s. Testosterone drops. Kids grown up. A massive shift leading to the elder years in the early 60s. Clearing up unfinished business and re-evaluate life. Elders are created out of this phase, or you just get older without the integration and wisdom to be an elder. That's the men's equivalent to the menopause. Oh and you're not the only one to come up with this kind of thing btw.
Well i achieved no success, in fact my 20s were filled with mental illness, drugs and self hatred. Turns out i have ADHD and Autism and rver since ive receivrd treatment, ive been able to imrpove my life. Im now 84kg at 6'1, compr r to 67kg 2 years ago. Im 30 and goint back to Uni next year to complrtr my degree i failed out of at 20. I don't think the manopause is relevant for me lol
I had the same type of 20's I believe I have add and may be autististic have not received treatment 40 now have done decent in life. Maybe I should check out that treatment to help achieve more of my goals...
28 now. Started fitness at 14. Started to experience health issues, especially with ligaments, but also with my back and meniscus in the past 2 years. Also getting rusty and stuff. Despite looking VERY healthy. Last 2 years truly changed the way I view fitness. I value flexibility training more now and cardio begins to become a factor too. I hesitated to change my views on fitness, but the more time goes by, the clearer it gets that its not just something you can brush off with few weeks or few months of training these other parts. But that I will have to find a way to incorporate flexibility and cardio into my lifestyle for good
@@solodolo786 got the first 3 knocked out already. This is literally how it pans out. I didn’t make this shit up, it’s what happens. Size comes easiest in your 20’s, and you wanna get big and swole (hell yeah). You can’t grow indefinitely, but with the size gained you get to your 30’s and eventually you can no longer do a whole bunch of high rep work. The joints can’t continue to take a beating , but lower 3-5 reps for strength are definitely doable, and the soreness from low reps doesn’t get in the way of your increasingly busy life. Strength peaks in your 30’s. Basic common knowledge. You don’t see a bunch of 22 year olds competing in Strongman do you?? The bigger you are the longer your full strength will take to mature. Next thing you know you’re 40 (seriously it goes very fast). Decades of bulking and eating for recovery have added up, metabolism has slowed, and you can’t put the numbers up you did a few years before. No reason to continue force feeding. You lean out a little and realize “damn everyone my age looks like shit, if I lose 5-10% body fat I will look much younger”. Boom next thing you know people don’t believe it when you say your age. Damn straight 50’s aren’t guaranteed. That’s why if you’re lucky enough to make there and beyond, you’re just happy to be active and still lifting.
When you hit 30, you're fully developed and your testosterone starts to level off. This allows you to use your brain better and stop caring about what other people think. You start to look inward so you can fill the gaps.
So, I'm 20 right now, right now I consistently go the gym, learn and read books everyday, but.. The thing is.. I obsessively think about girls around me, if they look at me, if they'd approach me etc. I have started to put a stop to these thoughts whenever they arise nowadays.. But it's still really hard. Maybe it's because of the high testosterone or idk. I just wanna be so focused that I forget even girls exist around me. Any clue how I can do that.. Like you said, just look inwards now itself instead of in the 30s (which I kinda do already with meditation and visualizing everyday)
@@poopyboi7188 you have to get the poison out unfortunately. Until your hormones have calmed down to match your physical body you need to keep the sack perpetually empty through self stimulation if you don't have a partner. I would like to tell men to find a steady female partner, but (atleast in most western countries) that is an extremely high risk situation. You can get a hyper realistic human analogue figure paired with an emotional support ai (I used kajiwoto and the-doll-house) but I understand it is not for everyone and merely present it as a possible option.
I’m sorry but who the hell gets out of breath walking up a flight of stairs at 30 years old unless they’re severely overweight or have a condition? Many studies confirm that endurance athletes peak in their 30s. It’s also not uncommon for powerlifters to peak in their 30s or sometimes even 40s. Don’t let age be an excuse to not train hard.
This is not age exclusive by any means, some guys realize this in their 20s late 20s 30s early 30s 40s 50s etc. As far back as I can remember anyone who has excluded cardio from their workout has been a dummy. No offense to anybody, and I don’t enjoy cardio at all, but I made sure that I did at least 15 minutes of cardio every single time I went to the gym, regardless of which other body parts I was working out. Just do the right thing and do cardio.
I hate cardio but acknowledge the importance of it so all I did before I went to the gym was walk. I hate running so I took long walks. That was my cardio.
Lol not just that anyone who plays sport is always gonna focus on cardio and mobility more than weights. Even the weight training is geared more towards improving mobility and the strength required to accomplish sports specific movement. That's why when I watched this I couldn't really relate. I've done cardio and mobility, flexibility training since I was in high school and I'm 32 now and still do it. I hate going to my men's leagues (soccer and basketball) games all stiff and shit. Need to be mobile with good cardio to enjoy the sport.
Increasingly physicians are telling us to privilege strength training over cardio. Muscle is critical to metabolic health. If you can do both great. But strength training is the new priority.
Happened to me at 20 and my god I went through anxiety and depression. It was too much all at once. I'm glad to be doing all well now (and helping others too) ❤
The opposite can be true as well in the case where, if you are someone who has wasted their 20's with regard to exercise/physical training, but then pick up regular exercise(of whatever kind) in your 30's, you stamina and strength improve and if you had shortness of breath when, let's say, climbing up staircases in your not so stellar 20's, then in your 30's, as you train, you don't experience as much of a shortness of breath when doing a certain physically demanding activity.
Turning 33 in a few months. Fasting, walking/hiking/running aka moving over distance, and semen retention work wonders for me. I’ve never had my test levels checked but have no concerns. Working a blue-collar job helps too.
@@millenialmemoirs - Start channeling your strength & energy toward others instead of being overly focused on yourself. While you're running in circles and measuring your spunk, there's very likely someone nearby who could use a hand or two.
@@millenialmemoirsshe's projecting her entitlement complex onto anything and everything. In other words, she should benefit from you before you benefit from yourself.
The word 'crisis' is used wrongly. Usually it just means reassessing and realizing you've been focusing on things you don't truly care about that much.
@@cautarepvp2079 it seems that way to me. People realizing they've been investing most of their energy and worries onto things that they thought would make them happy because society made them believe it, only to realize, once they achieve them, that they've been duped and they're not fulfilled. Then the 'crisis' starts.
@@goattttttt954honestly if youve consistently worked out there isn't much change. You know what's funny, I was dunking at 20 and now I'm 32 and still dunking and I'm only 5 8. The rest of my friends my age can't even touch the backboard. Guys at the gym always assume I'm in my early to mid 20s cause they tell me how weird it is to see a 30 yr old move so well. The truth is it wasn't hard. I just played 2-3 times a week every week from when I was 20 years old. Consistency is a bigger difference than age is. Yes age does make a difference but not nearly as much of a difference as exercise and eating habits. This is actually backed by science by the way. I studied it in kinesiology but a fit 60 yr old man or woman would actually perform relatively close to what they performed at 20-30
I guess I’m just a bit under that age, but this is certainly making sense to me. I don’t know if these considerations pop up on certain schedules, but I’m always evaluating and adjusting. Sometimes I adjust something, physically, because I know that I can always dig deeper, and I haven’t yet hit anything that resembles a limit. But sometimes I feel certain things are important to me, while others aren’t, and instead of adjusting or compensating or pressing for something I don’t want, I adjust my actions and priorities to either accomplish a certain goal, attain a certain feat, and reorient myself to avoid something I don’t consider essential, or just destroy it if it’s something I’m not happy with its existence. I think it’s just a matter of taking a challenge on, fixing a policy and getting serious about focusing on it, or justify moving away from a certain position. We’re still essentially constantly thinking, working, and learning about everything that surrounds us. We’re living algorithms, and perhaps there are periods of increased scrutiny, perhaps we accumulate a certain amount of information and process it in bulk at certain points in our lives. I’m just not sure why it should be a “crisis”, though. Obviously, it could be jarring if, upon review, you find yourself at complete odds with the principles you set out from or intended to reach in your life, but it’s better to step back, and take corrective measures early on than to plough through and find yourself unrecognisable and in your early fifties. Trends are harder to buck when you’re in a decades-long rut, I would imagine. I think that’s what we have at 20-something or 30. A robust imagination, a fair capacity to evaluate the current situation, and the health and energy (and fitness level) that we take for granted. I’m still optimistic. I’m very fortunate and perhaps I might be taking the physical advantages of youth and health for granted, and that’s one of the things I’m beginning to appreciate more thoroughly.
Never had in the ancient world? So our ancestors couldn't think to the future ? Silly. We are the same exact beings as they were. Recycled over and over again
No, I did not really change my weight lifting. I actually went from powerlifting more to bodybuilding into my 30’s. But I just started doing a bunch of endurance work and cardio when I noticed I got out of breath easily. Resistance training had unique benefits as does cardio. So both have their place. I won’t drop resistance training and only do cardio for that reason.
Totally agree. For me it was a shift from earning my living in manual labor, towards mental labor/ problem solving/ office work. Combine that with COVID isolation, increased academic workload, and rising stress, and yes my body took a toll. Manual labor kept me fit (and poor, although this is not a necessity of blue collar work). A more mental economy opened up many doors for me and I see myself flourishing in many ways; however, it is sedentary and terrible for any human body. Now that I am stable (and older, mid 30s) I find I have to work way, WAY harder to maintain physical fitness and robustness. Keeping at it and keeping momentum is the real gift of (bit of) wisdom gained over the years.
Do body weight exercises until you can do a muscle up and save your own life. I think 95% of people would die if they were hanging off an edge and had to pull themselves back up. I’m not saying this is common but I’ve always thought about it
I think he is on to something very important. In the city I live in here in southern Sweden, there are 370 miles of bike paths. So children, women, men, the elderly, everyone rides a bike. Many cities in Scandinavia look like this. Plus, in the middle and northern parts of Sweden, Finland and Norway, many people ski regularly. Cycling, skiing and the like stimulate all the senses. I don't have a car, cycle everywhere, long distances, short distances, to and from work. I am 44, female, have perfect blood pressure, have never been overweight. You can always cycle except if it has snowed a lot. Now I'm going to add strength training. I think you Americans need to influence your local politicians to build bike lanes in the cities. Believe me, it gives an incredible amount to include movement in everyday life.
I’ll be 36 this year and I definitely feel it. Testosterone starts to fall off at 30 for most men. My issue is that right around 30 I made a career change and went from dead end sales BS to transportation. Physical delivery. Started out delivering restaurant supplies, then moved to food service, then beer, then back to food service. That shit will age you QUICK! Your body takes a fucking BEATING in those fields. To put some perspective on it, most people in food service NEED surgery within 5 years, usually on the knees, hips and/or back. Sometimes shoulders too. HARD fucking work! But it got me where I today and for that I am thankful. These days, I carry a CDL to haul various loads for my current company and make very decent money doing so. No more physical BS!
I got my CDL a little over a year ago and drove for Schneider all of 2023, did very similar work to you on Dollar general accounts and whatever sni wanted to put me on. Quuit 2 months ago and am ready to hop back in the horse. Flatbed seems like a good mix of physicality and relaxation
@@alexhowley9834 flatbed is cool man. Breaks up the consistent sitting and gives you something to do. I actually learned and did flatbed for Schneider for nearly 6 months before my current company reached out to me to join their flatbed team. I do flatbed, drop grocery pallets, and P&D other various loads, and I’m making the same as when I was in the physical world!
Yup I was like this I couldn't bend down fully (squat) or touch my toes without bending my knees etc but I just started stretching and in half a year I am where I was in my early 20s
Same, im 34 now but last 2 years ive been focusing less on heavy weights at the gym, cardio more, better diet since on the upper end of borderline hypertensive blood pressures, working on discovering and completing more personal/spiritual goals
@@henri6595 yes. Some are just backstabbing or just plain disrespectful and then some I just sort of drifted from bc they just drank and had no careers or hobbies. It is pretty lonely when you make changes to be better but your group doesn't. I have found others now but it was tough at first.
I'm still wrestling and doing bjj at 44. Big change happened when I got serious with a stretching and recovery deal. And I started pushing lifting for strength again. My back is sketchy. So I've stayed away from squats and deadlifts. But have been lifting sandbags. And it's going really good.
@@coreyworthingtonii9230 The "hit the wall" thing is not something women think about. It's an expression that young guys came up with to tell older women that they think they're ugly.
For my own part, I went for Shadow work and spiritual maturation. It's easier to bear hardship and nihilism when your subconscious isn't pulling you in a thousand directions simultaneously. All that's left is Enlightenment, socioeconomic progress and weight loss. But at least I've gone from 'excruciating nihilism' to 'chronic boredom'.
I am no body builder but I definitely feel like I went through something similar to this. When I was a younger man I always imagined I wanted to seek some sort of high power, high compensation career. I wanted to be the CEO. In charge of everything. When I hit my later 20s, 27/28, I started to rethink this and by the time I was 30 I had already decided I actually already had a decent job at a good company and a solid 30+ year stint there before retirement would be more than acceptable to me. A little progression would be nice, sure, but I don't need to reach the top. I realised I really wanted to focus on my home life and the personal relationships that really mattered to me. Now I'm with the same company nearly 10 years and have a wife and two children and I'm honestly perfectly happy.
I live my life in decades. 20s were spent learning about people, making mistakes, learning what works for me and developing my confidence. 30s we’re for discovering my passions in a professional sense. 40s will be developing my career and by 50 I should be in line to become a VP in my company. When I hit 50 I hope to retire to my cabin in the woods and live off the land.
Im there now with 25. It‘s more important for me now to go my own way and absolutely dominate it, do service to others out of my growth for the higher good and get lots of money for it as an energy exchange. 🚀 I love coaching. Going my own way does not have to mean becoming rich and famous. But I am very rich inside and will become very rich on the outside too as an natural response, if I put in the work and take the appropriate money for it.
Going through this right now it’s awful. Having built myself up now realizing are some of things I’m doing even things worth doing or maybe it’s better to focus on more meaningful things.
As a man..hitting 30 wasnt just physically it also affects our mentality..from selfishness to generosity, from stupidity to being protectorate..its like a weird sudden shift..cant explain it
I think as you hit your 30’s, for many, you realise the mystery and potential of your life gets less and less. You find yourself on whatever path your decisions led you too and you’re currently on. If you have responsibilities and even if you don’t, it can still be extremely difficult if not impossible to change course and redirect. And you realise this is more or less it now…. The excitement and hope of the unknown dwindles as it becomes more known.
Been through 2 breakups the past 2-3 years. Lost friends during covid, partied my guts out the past few months and I realised all I need is God and a couple of solid bros. I'm purposely going into isolation to focus on lifting and my work/business because I don't see how I'm gonna achieve my goals by constantly hanging out with people unless they're on the same path as me.
@rub23n nothing is guaranteed in this life besides death and taxes my friend. But if you're working on your goals you're already more successful than the majority
My 20s were wrecked by crippling autoimmune disease, opioid addiction, drug felonies and male pattern baldness start by at 18. My 30s have been the best time of my life. I’m more athletic than most 20 year olds and have everything I’d ever want in front of me. We create the reality we deserve.
As someone who has been through my 30s, 40s, and now 50s, I will say this: What I down now has more than anything to do with what I feel is right for me, and what makes my wife and I can do together. It is way more important to me to do something both my wife and I enjoy together, than to try to be some propped up ideal of what society says I should be
I’ve got nothing and I can already tell that the standards of success set by society are definitely not something I want. Now it’s a matter of actually finding out what I want.
Got bored from bodybuilding at age 22 (had been lifting since 16). Switched to running and even ran some ultra trail races. Now I’m happy with combining all together so I look good (even not that huge as I was in my 20), enjoy running, do crossfit, cycling, swimming. Switching through different physical activities allows me to never get bored:) I am 28 now by the way. I believe it’s just about your priorities. Being a teenager you mostly care about what people think of you and your looks is what determines your personality- you think. But getting older you understand that it is not everything and start doing things which will allow you to live a healthy and happy life.
Going through it right now. I’m 24 and just got my first job. Making tons of money but I realize how unhappy I am. I don’t even care about the money at all as long as I can pay my bills. I feel like what I actually want is a family, girlfriend, friends, community.
This happened to me at 20 years old, it's not a physical change, it's a mental one. You found yourself losing energy because you lost incentive to put energy in those things. I suffered with a lot of biomechanical issues from a young age so it shifted my priority to injury prevention and longevity which involved a lot of functional and unconventional training. Most people don't see the effects of abusing their bodies until they hit their 30's so they take longer to come to the realisation that they're not invincible and have to approach things more intelligently.
Holy shit this happened to me at 31 along with a big life event. Lifted since 18 to be big. Then at 31 got into combat and non-combat sports. Changed diet. Became leaner while still lifting moderately heavy. Felt more agile and energetic. It’s for real 🙏🏻
I actually feel better now physically at 31 than I did when I was in my mid 20s where I was at my physical “peak”. I was able to play back to back 60 min indoor soccer games the other day where I’d be gassed after just one game back in the day. Been on keto for about 8 months now, maybe only socially drink low carb alcohol 1-2 times a month with friends, no smoking at all, and I feel like my endurance/strength is through the roof
29 and went through a difficult break up a few months ago. She gave me a second chance and I failed again, realized I need to do inner work and that only I can be there for myself. Going to be 30 in 5 months and hopefully will be in a better place then but I’m afraid the scars will remain.
When I was 27 I was a family man and didn't have the luxury of thinking about a "manopause." Looking back from the vantage point of 73, I've realized that the distraction of an inescapable responsibility for the welfare of others was a blessing. In other words, thankfully, I learned early on it would never be just about me.
Started Bjj at 19, now 24 I realize the importance of functional training. I’ve never really cared for body building and recently started yoga to improve ROM and flexibility, as well as improve some injuries in competitions. Can confirm I feel I’ve made the right choices. Wish someone would’ve really highlighted the importance of training flexibility at in high school at 16 though because that would’ve made me potentially even better at everything else. Did boxing growing up as a kid though, so I think that fortified my heart a lot growing up and it helped with removing a lot of asthma symptoms. Unfortunately I smoked weed heavy for like 1 year tho so I might’ve been messing with my cardio and lungs for a while there but I quit a few months ago and honestly never going back.
literally the reason why the middle way should be embodied in all things, including fitness. I never experienced this, I never focused too much on working out, but i also never let myself get very big. I am now 34, I never had that experience that most men refer to. Even my close friends had it. Im not a buddhist, but "the middle way" is an objectively correct thing buddhism teaches.
Independence, the ability to think for yourself and not need others to think for you, is the foundation for self-esteem. If you can't think for yourself, you can't have self-esteem, and without self-esteem, you can't be happy in life.
when I got to 35 yrs old, I finally realized that just lifting heavy weights wasn't all that wanted. Focus on mobility, flexibility as much as weight training has been a breath of fresh air to me. I have flexibility now that kid version of me never had. Above all else, I feel good.
I’ll never forgot as a young guy walking into what I thought was a really well paying job having men around me daily telling me to get out while I can and go to school for something. They weren’t kidding, it wasn’t just “new guy banter.” They truly hated that they chose to stay and they were so negative about it. They knew they messed up, but the pay kept them strapped. I’m glad I left and life turned out very differently.
I teach a holistic form of martial arts. Can't tell you how many guys say they wished they started when they were younger, and how much further along they'd be. Reality is, the pressure to do what's societally "in" is great.
25, watching all the 45+ people at my same jobs, absolutely hating their lives talking as though they’re trapped in this hell of a company with no escape… I was making really good money but questioned whether or not this is what 80% of my life was going to continue being and I snapped, saved up a nest egg and got the fuck outta there started my own moving company in town and things have been going solid ever since.
Good for you for taking a risk and not going the safe and easy path.
Kudos brother
Right on man! Keep going!
Nice. I’m 24, making trash money but hoping I can find an out by getting into marketing and e commerce. Keep going!
I see this alot. I don't think it's the job. But the mindset of the man. Money isn't everything and that's a hard lesson to learn in itself. But I've seen people "stuck" in their job or career making $160,000-$220,000 a year. In no way at all is that a dead end job. They just feel wasted for doing what they do. Meanwhile many others in the same careers find great fulfillment in the work. Next time you see a man complaining he's working a career. Do not assess the job, assess that man. Because if you can keep your head up in a career where those old timers are stuck with their heads down, you will succeed, you will be upper management one day.
Happened to me. In my 20’s it was all about lifting heavy, eating everything and bulking. Now at 30 I’ve started caring about my actual health, doing cardio, training flexibility, functionality, focusing more on calisthenics, etc
I'm in my mid 30s and I realized that with the right approach you can still build and maintain muscle at your current age. Sure you might not have the vigor and enthusiasm you might have had in your 20s but if you have a consistent sleeping pattern, train smart, eat accordingly & get sufficient recovery you can maintain and still get stronger. It's a lot harder but it's possible. As Mike Tyson says '30 is still a baby'. 😃
Try using your brain 🧠 you may discover something new and profound
I'm the opposite, I'm in my 30s and i know I'm going to die so I'm always going heavy and try to kill myself fast, 405 squat is so yesterday I'm trying to race to 500
@@Jillian15he clearly is. You would realize that if you took the time to read his comment instead of trying to dunk on him 😂
Yes well that is just what actual fitness is
It is a quarter life crisis. It’s the time people also question if the did the right college degree and stuff
You living to 120?
@@bonechip01 🤷♂️
@@bonechip01 Nah, but “third life crisis” sounds like you’ve lived 3 lives and are now having a crisis. Besides, (and this is a new idea I’ve just now cooked up) you could divide your lifespan into “quarters” but each epoch isn’t the same number of years. The late 20s might be the end of the 2nd quarter of young adulthood not the 1st of childhood, but “quarter life crisis” does distinguish it from a “midlife crises” of one’s 40s/50s, which really might be a “three quarters life crisis” because it’s the transition between regular adulthood and old age.
So maybe teenage angst should be the quarter life crisis. Mid 20s-early 30s the midlife crises. 40s/50s the 3/4 life crisis. And an elderly person fearing death and having anxiety over their legacy or lack thereof being an end of life crisis.
Idk, just spit-balling.
People should be questioning these things before then really.
More like third life crisis, you're more likely to last closer to 90 than 120, if that
I think it's because when you're in your 20s you have little to no status so you have to compensate by trying to be aesthetic, but when you start to gain status you shift more away from aesthetics to functionality. You realize functionality is more important for long term health and well being.
I want the list of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell clients to be released
This !
Very well explained
Does this suggest that for young men, their status is more important to them than their health ?
@@bawseeeee602 Perhaps. It wouldn't be surprising to me, because for young adults, men or not, health tends to rank pretty low in their priorities, or at least commonly is ranked lower than some other things, status or otherwise. And really, it makes some sense. With the vigor and recovery of young adulthood, is there another stage in life when it makes more sense to chase other things than health? It's probably the best time for risky behavior, ideally with some good purpose to them. There's probably good reason (or a few) why this is common behavior.
David Brooks calls it the “second mountain”. A lot of men reroute the trajectory or at least question their careers and life choices in their early 30’s.
I experienced something like this at age 30.
I’m doing this at 24 lol. Granted I’ve never worked in any particular career field for too long. I’m working an entry level job currently and working on growing a business.
I got out of the military at 24 years old, and went down a bad path because I felt like I had nothing. Im 30 now, and after fucking around for 6 years I finally am on a straight path. I think it really takes full maturity to see the perspective of the importance of the rest of our lives. Like from 18 through my 20's I didn't give a shit what I did to my body because I couldn't really comprehend the consequences. Thats why its so saddening when I see teenagers on a shit ton of gear with that naive perspective that they dont care about the rest of their lives.
Our mental and physical health are important, and when dying from having an enlarged heart due to years of drug abuse, I can guarantee they won't be thinking "Ah but those golden years where I looked good were worth this."
Only time will tell but I *think* I'm in the midst of that in my late 20s now. I was a bit aimless in the early 20s, had a pretty chill life around my family. Decided to get a masters degree to refocus my skills into something I like (from pure engineering to microbiology). It's almost complete and will likely require me to move somewhere new to find work, so it feels like this chapter of my life is wrapping up. But it is certainly exciting
27 - 30 it happens and gets stronger
Hit this late last year, after a break up, I now don’t drink or play video games and extend my gym sessions, it’s helping to honestly deal with feelings of constant loneliness not sure if they will ever go away but it’s better
Go out there brother. There is too much to live for
Did you maintain your friendships when you were in a relationship? Most guys negate their friends, resulting in them having near no friends if their dating/marriage fails.
@@henri6595 yeah I did I’ve seen enough friends isolate themselves to know not to follow suit
@bobsaysdiex You are a smart man for noticing early! I kind of fell into that trap a little these past 2ish years. I've been thinking of a game plan to reactivate some slighlty lost people.
Don't lose your identity while dating or marriage! You'll have nothing if the relationship fails.
Going thru this rn bro
I've just turned 30yo and I'm definetely in my prime, but even more, each day I feel better than the day before
30 isnt supposed to be anywhere near being old. 30 is considered the most youthful age according to anti aging doctors.
We must have close bdays, I just turned 30 too. I wouldn’t say I’m in my prime or downfall but I would say my priorities have changed and I think that’s what he was trying to say
You should not be hitting your prime until you’re 40. You don’t want 30 to be your peak, you’re not even half way through your life at that point
Just reading this activated arthritis in my knees 😅
@@vdog3248 “30 is the most youthful age”
Newborns: 🥲🥲🥲
Never felt like this. Crazy to think of any man thinking or feeling old at 30.
Agree dude. Most of my friends seem to have given up at 31 cause they’re “too old” which I think is insane, I’m in the best shape of my life at 31 and continue to get fitter/stronger, it’s all mentality. We’re still young!
@@lordnicholasbendtner1333 I just fought an MMA fight and went the distance. I didn't even feel tired. Didn't sit on a stool in between rounds. Stood. I'm 39. People just look for excuses. Age is another excuse.
@@theadirondackstackerlove that 🙏 I play football myself, it’s known as a young man’s game so I sometimes get worried about how much longer I’ll be able to play for despite not slowing down just yet, but you’ve inspired me and made me look forward to the years ahead even more!
I think it’s weird my buddies who are all most 30 have the urge to go out partying every weekend like when we were 17. They have decent jobs but most of the time they’re broke and in debt
@@billyshears2032 Peter Pan syndrome.
Im 36, skated since my teens, never felt better. Look good, feel good 🤙 The one muscle that matters is ya heart. Without that, you dont exist.
Summed it up eloquently!
@@SolnyshkaDevy Thank you friend. I hope life is treating you well ✌
@@olliemunchies finally pieces are coming together . I hope you are doing great bud 🙌🏻🙌🏻🩵
@@olliemunchies things are slowly getting better with time brother . I hope You are having a good time , Best wishes to you
Thirty-six years old crisis here! I still don't know how to untangle this.
This is why i never let anyone else define what my life should be or what it should look like. You are the one who decides what you do, how you do it, and why.
I’m 29. Had health issues as a kid and it motivated me to start eating healthy at 9. Never looked back. I’ve always been extremely driven / motivated but the older I grow I realize the sacrifices that are required for whatever path you go down. As they say everything is hard. You need to pick your hard.
Physically, I squandered my 20s. But I worked hard, got married, and had kids. Now, in my 30s, I am trying to make up for my lack of exercise. I think this pattern is only for men who did not find a wife early.
I see you haven't learned this lesson about marriage by now. Condolences on the future 💊
What is so sad about your life you assume things will go poorly for me. I have been happily married for 15 years. My parents for over 40. My grandparents for over 60. It is not rare. @@DTreatz
Financially I squandered my 20s 🎉😂
@@DTreatzI think too much red pill videos can tunnel vision some guys to think every marriage must have a cynical end.
@@DutchWestFilms for sure. All this tells me is that he has either had negative experiences with women or no experiences
36 years old and near the best shape of my life. If it weren’t for aches and pains of past injury Id say I am in my best condition ever.
Yep. A motorcycle accident and 2 major foit surgeries didn't help me. But I'm being positive and trying to get back in great shape
Over 35 is over 35 idc how in shape you are
I’m 37 and went through this like 4 years ago , once you change your perception and reallocate your time and energy in the areas that benefit you if what you see as best for your life it changes you in every metric . I now wake up grateful and stop to look at beautiful sights , appreciate the small things in life that would have just passed me by previously.
Happened to me too. In my 20s I was your regular gym bro. "Discovered" Muaythai at age 31, changed my life completely and never looked back. A decade later I'm still going strong
Manopause is later, late 40s to 50s. Testosterone drops. Kids grown up. A massive shift leading to the elder years in the early 60s. Clearing up unfinished business and re-evaluate life. Elders are created out of this phase, or you just get older without the integration and wisdom to be an elder. That's the men's equivalent to the menopause. Oh and you're not the only one to come up with this kind of thing btw.
Yeah Chris has so many blind spots in his takes its really mind blowing he can get so much engagement with his stuff.
"Kids grown up." Nah dude. Only if your pull out game weak😂😂
For some men it's like 70s lol my grandfather had a kid at 60 and used to hoop with the young guys at 60. Genes though lol some people just age faster
@iantodoyle5074 that's andropause
Not me, at the end of my 20s I doubled down on bodybuilding and now im battling sleep apnea and high blood pressure like a man. 😂
Yeah same. As I neared 30 I doubled down too out of fear or ageing.
Fix that sleep apnea it’s no joke
@@PS-lv1mr How?
How'd you get high blood pressure by training?
@87alock I didn't. I got high blood pressure from gaining a lot mass and eating a high meat diet and using anabolic steroids.
Well i achieved no success, in fact my 20s were filled with mental illness, drugs and self hatred. Turns out i have ADHD and Autism and rver since ive receivrd treatment, ive been able to imrpove my life. Im now 84kg at 6'1, compr r to 67kg 2 years ago. Im 30 and goint back to Uni next year to complrtr my degree i failed out of at 20.
I don't think the manopause is relevant for me lol
Similar story, ended up getting my degree in late 20's and now in grad school, you got this bro
You got this man it’s going to get better
I needed to read this as I am in a similar situation. Thank you for sharing
I had the same type of 20's I believe I have add and may be autististic have not received treatment 40 now have done decent in life. Maybe I should check out that treatment to help achieve more of my goals...
Thanks for sharing. Good luck with your degree bro
28 now. Started fitness at 14. Started to experience health issues, especially with ligaments, but also with my back and meniscus in the past 2 years. Also getting rusty and stuff. Despite looking VERY healthy.
Last 2 years truly changed the way I view fitness. I value flexibility training more now and cardio begins to become a factor too. I hesitated to change my views on fitness, but the more time goes by, the clearer it gets that its not just something you can brush off with few weeks or few months of training these other parts. But that I will have to find a way to incorporate flexibility and cardio into my lifestyle for good
Training by the decades:
20’s for size
30’s for strength
40’s for health
50’s+ for Happiness
Lame!
You talk like you’re guaranteed to hit 20, 30, 40, 50
@@solodolo786 got the first 3 knocked out already.
This is literally how it pans out. I didn’t make this shit up, it’s what happens. Size comes easiest in your 20’s, and you wanna get big and swole (hell yeah). You can’t grow indefinitely, but with the size gained you get to your 30’s and eventually you can no longer do a whole bunch of high rep work. The joints can’t continue to take a beating , but lower 3-5 reps for strength are definitely doable, and the soreness from low reps doesn’t get in the way of your increasingly busy life. Strength peaks in your 30’s. Basic common knowledge. You don’t see a bunch of 22 year olds competing in Strongman do you?? The bigger you are the longer your full strength will take to mature. Next thing you know you’re 40 (seriously it goes very fast). Decades of bulking and eating for recovery have added up, metabolism has slowed, and you can’t put the numbers up you did a few years before. No reason to continue force feeding. You lean out a little and realize “damn everyone my age looks like shit, if I lose 5-10% body fat I will look much younger”. Boom next thing you know people don’t believe it when you say your age.
Damn straight 50’s aren’t guaranteed. That’s why if you’re lucky enough to make there and beyond, you’re just happy to be active and still lifting.
@@houtexflexhigher rep work is easier on the joints then low rep stuff, other than that I think you're on point here
@@houtexflex don’t trip dog, mfs will try to find fault with literally anything u say; there was nothing wrong with it, people are just bored
When you hit 30, you're fully developed and your testosterone starts to level off. This allows you to use your brain better and stop caring about what other people think. You start to look inward so you can fill the gaps.
Boom, legendary comment!
Does testosterone prevent you from using your brain?
So many people ignore this biological fact and cover it up with psychological mumbo jumbo to justify their "enlightenment"
So, I'm 20 right now, right now I consistently go the gym, learn and read books everyday, but.. The thing is.. I obsessively think about girls around me, if they look at me, if they'd approach me etc. I have started to put a stop to these thoughts whenever they arise nowadays.. But it's still really hard. Maybe it's because of the high testosterone or idk. I just wanna be so focused that I forget even girls exist around me. Any clue how I can do that.. Like you said, just look inwards now itself instead of in the 30s (which I kinda do already with meditation and visualizing everyday)
@@poopyboi7188 you have to get the poison out unfortunately. Until your hormones have calmed down to match your physical body you need to keep the sack perpetually empty through self stimulation if you don't have a partner. I would like to tell men to find a steady female partner, but (atleast in most western countries) that is an extremely high risk situation. You can get a hyper realistic human analogue figure paired with an emotional support ai (I used kajiwoto and the-doll-house) but I understand it is not for everyone and merely present it as a possible option.
Absolutely, Think positive and focus on what matters 💪🏻
I'll be 30 in 4 days. I just started doing kickboxing and I plan to do Judo later (besides gym of course).
Judo is really hard on the body when you get in to it later in life. I'm not saying you can't do it though. Just a warning. 😅
Try hiking, running, overlanding and backpacking. It feels like nothing else to hike a 30+ mile day on some mountain trails.
im 31 now and im lifting every more heavy weights than i ever did in my 20s
Strongmen peak in their thirties so yup
Fantastic perspective! This is a very important topic worth discussing.
Try to avoid Costco unless it’s 230pm on Tuesday.
Nah man, just go during the last hour of the day. It's not bad then
Now this is the modern wisdom I'm looking for!
@@CornyBum 😂
Tuesday mornings are it
Wednesdays at 6-7pm aren’t bad. Unless you’re in a massive suburb like Naperville Illinois, then everyday is fucked
I’m 43 and have been a bodybuilder the last 23 years. I can’t give it up, I can’t help but continue to do what I love.
I like how creative JP is with his socks choices 😂
Caught me off guard there
And your chat with Huberman is a favourite 🙏🙏👍
I’m sorry but who the hell gets out of breath walking up a flight of stairs at 30 years old unless they’re severely overweight or have a condition? Many studies confirm that endurance athletes peak in their 30s. It’s also not uncommon for powerlifters to peak in their 30s or sometimes even 40s. Don’t let age be an excuse to not train hard.
Awesome vibes! 🚀
This is not age exclusive by any means, some guys realize this in their 20s late 20s 30s early 30s 40s 50s etc. As far back as I can remember anyone who has excluded cardio from their workout has been a dummy. No offense to anybody, and I don’t enjoy cardio at all, but I made sure that I did at least 15 minutes of cardio every single time I went to the gym, regardless of which other body parts I was working out. Just do the right thing and do cardio.
Also women I don’t know how it’s exclusive to men thing?
I hate cardio but acknowledge the importance of it so all I did before I went to the gym was walk. I hate running so I took long walks. That was my cardio.
Lol not just that anyone who plays sport is always gonna focus on cardio and mobility more than weights. Even the weight training is geared more towards improving mobility and the strength required to accomplish sports specific movement. That's why when I watched this I couldn't really relate.
I've done cardio and mobility, flexibility training since I was in high school and I'm 32 now and still do it. I hate going to my men's leagues (soccer and basketball) games all stiff and shit. Need to be mobile with good cardio to enjoy the sport.
I don't do cardio, but I do do a lot of walking. I think you need to do at least one of those.
Increasingly physicians are telling us to privilege strength training over cardio. Muscle is critical to metabolic health. If you can do both great. But strength training is the new priority.
Happened to me at 20 and my god I went through anxiety and depression. It was too much all at once.
I'm glad to be doing all well now (and helping others too) ❤
The opposite can be true as well in the case where, if you are someone who has wasted their 20's with regard to exercise/physical training, but then pick up regular exercise(of whatever kind) in your 30's, you stamina and strength improve and if you had shortness of breath when, let's say, climbing up staircases in your not so stellar 20's, then in your 30's, as you train, you don't experience as much of a shortness of breath when doing a certain physically demanding activity.
"If you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change".
The face of Jordan like thinking "wait until you're past 50"
The earlier you come to this realization the better.
Grateful it came at 22 years for me.
Turning 33 in a few months. Fasting, walking/hiking/running aka moving over distance, and semen retention work wonders for me. I’ve never had my test levels checked but have no concerns. Working a blue-collar job helps too.
Get a life
@@JimmyHeight care to elaborate?
@@millenialmemoirs - Start channeling your strength & energy toward others instead of being overly focused on yourself. While you're running in circles and measuring your spunk, there's very likely someone nearby who could use a hand or two.
@@maryhalverson5713 what makes you claim I am overly focused on myself?
@@millenialmemoirsshe's projecting her entitlement complex onto anything and everything. In other words, she should benefit from you before you benefit from yourself.
I love Jordan x Chris collabs the most.
The word 'crisis' is used wrongly. Usually it just means reassessing and realizing you've been focusing on things you don't truly care about that much.
is it really that thing?
First world problems, am I right?
@@cautarepvp2079 it seems that way to me. People realizing they've been investing most of their energy and worries onto things that they thought would make them happy because society made them believe it, only to realize, once they achieve them, that they've been duped and they're not fulfilled.
Then the 'crisis' starts.
Bro your doing gods work out here.
This has to be the longest Peterson has ever gone without talking.
Ha! That just saved me typing the same comment !!!
😂
Absolutely nailed it
ive been manopausic for the last two years. drinking light, stopped dating and get to bed early. best years of my life.
Thanks for sharing
30 aint nothing.
Wait until your 40.
What happens then enlighten
Ya, what happens in the 40s?
@@goattttttt954honestly if youve consistently worked out there isn't much change. You know what's funny, I was dunking at 20 and now I'm 32 and still dunking and I'm only 5 8. The rest of my friends my age can't even touch the backboard. Guys at the gym always assume I'm in my early to mid 20s cause they tell me how weird it is to see a 30 yr old move so well. The truth is it wasn't hard. I just played 2-3 times a week every week from when I was 20 years old. Consistency is a bigger difference than age is. Yes age does make a difference but not nearly as much of a difference as exercise and eating habits. This is actually backed by science by the way. I studied it in kinesiology but a fit 60 yr old man or woman would actually perform relatively close to what they performed at 20-30
Tell me about 40s!
@@henri6595I think he is going to say some generic stuff like having low energy and back pain.
I guess I’m just a bit under that age, but this is certainly making sense to me.
I don’t know if these considerations pop up on certain schedules, but I’m always evaluating and adjusting. Sometimes I adjust something, physically, because I know that I can always dig deeper, and I haven’t yet hit anything that resembles a limit. But sometimes I feel certain things are important to me, while others aren’t, and instead of adjusting or compensating or pressing for something I don’t want, I adjust my actions and priorities to either accomplish a certain goal, attain a certain feat, and reorient myself to avoid something I don’t consider essential, or just destroy it if it’s something I’m not happy with its existence.
I think it’s just a matter of taking a challenge on, fixing a policy and getting serious about focusing on it, or justify moving away from a certain position.
We’re still essentially constantly thinking, working, and learning about everything that surrounds us.
We’re living algorithms, and perhaps there are periods of increased scrutiny, perhaps we accumulate a certain amount of information and process it in bulk at certain points in our lives.
I’m just not sure why it should be a “crisis”, though.
Obviously, it could be jarring if, upon review, you find yourself at complete odds with the principles you set out from or intended to reach in your life, but it’s better to step back, and take corrective measures early on than to plough through and find yourself unrecognisable and in your early fifties.
Trends are harder to buck when you’re in a decades-long rut, I would imagine.
I think that’s what we have at 20-something or 30. A robust imagination, a fair capacity to evaluate the current situation, and the health and energy (and fitness level) that we take for granted.
I’m still optimistic. I’m very fortunate and perhaps I might be taking the physical advantages of youth and health for granted, and that’s one of the things I’m beginning to appreciate more thoroughly.
Its essentially long term thinking of the mind that we've never had before in the ancient world.
Hence modern wisdom
Never had in the ancient world? So our ancestors couldn't think to the future ? Silly. We are the same exact beings as they were. Recycled over and over again
No, I did not really change my weight lifting. I actually went from powerlifting more to bodybuilding into my 30’s. But I just started doing a bunch of endurance work and cardio when I noticed I got out of breath easily. Resistance training had unique benefits as does cardio. So both have their place. I won’t drop resistance training and only do cardio for that reason.
Totally agree. For me it was a shift from earning my living in manual labor, towards mental labor/ problem solving/ office work. Combine that with COVID isolation, increased academic workload, and rising stress, and yes my body took a toll. Manual labor kept me fit (and poor, although this is not a necessity of blue collar work). A more mental economy opened up many doors for me and I see myself flourishing in many ways; however, it is sedentary and terrible for any human body. Now that I am stable (and older, mid 30s) I find I have to work way, WAY harder to maintain physical fitness and robustness. Keeping at it and keeping momentum is the real gift of (bit of) wisdom gained over the years.
So true
Ex bodybuilder here although I started valuing health over size at 25 and changed my life
Do body weight exercises until you can do a muscle up and save your own life. I think 95% of people would die if they were hanging off an edge and had to pull themselves back up. I’m not saying this is common but I’ve always thought about it
You are right. A friend of mine couldn't pull himself into the raft without people helping him.
Yep, pulls ups are a necessity, one of the greatest exercise there is.
Completely agree. At 32 now I question social and cultural norms and really focus on what brings true joy to my and my family’s lives.
It's just our mental *prime* mate, let's not overcomplicate this.
Breath and Movement. Calm. Not hyper aggressive
Calesthenics all of life ✊
Love this.
I think he is on to something very important. In the city I live in here in southern Sweden, there are 370 miles of bike paths. So children, women, men, the elderly, everyone rides a bike. Many cities in Scandinavia look like this. Plus, in the middle and northern parts of Sweden, Finland and Norway, many people ski regularly. Cycling, skiing and the like stimulate all the senses. I don't have a car, cycle everywhere, long distances, short distances, to and from work. I am 44, female, have perfect blood pressure, have never been overweight. You can always cycle except if it has snowed a lot. Now I'm going to add strength training. I think you Americans need to influence your local politicians to build bike lanes in the cities. Believe me, it gives an incredible amount to include movement in everyday life.
I’ll be 36 this year and I definitely feel it. Testosterone starts to fall off at 30 for most men.
My issue is that right around 30 I made a career change and went from dead end sales BS to transportation. Physical delivery. Started out delivering restaurant supplies, then moved to food service, then beer, then back to food service. That shit will age you QUICK! Your body takes a fucking BEATING in those fields. To put some perspective on it, most people in food service NEED surgery within 5 years, usually on the knees, hips and/or back. Sometimes shoulders too. HARD fucking work!
But it got me where I today and for that I am thankful. These days, I carry a CDL to haul various loads for my current company and make very decent money doing so. No more physical BS!
I got my CDL a little over a year ago and drove for Schneider all of 2023, did very similar work to you on Dollar general accounts and whatever sni wanted to put me on. Quuit 2 months ago and am ready to hop back in the horse. Flatbed seems like a good mix of physicality and relaxation
@@alexhowley9834 flatbed is cool man. Breaks up the consistent sitting and gives you something to do. I actually learned and did flatbed for Schneider for nearly 6 months before my current company reached out to me to join their flatbed team. I do flatbed, drop grocery pallets, and P&D other various loads, and I’m making the same as when I was in the physical world!
Yup I was like this I couldn't bend down fully (squat) or touch my toes without bending my knees etc but I just started stretching and in half a year I am where I was in my early 20s
Same, im 34 now but last 2 years ive been focusing less on heavy weights at the gym, cardio more, better diet since on the upper end of borderline hypertensive blood pressures, working on discovering and completing more personal/spiritual goals
Women too. I had a rough time evaluating my health, career and relationships during that time.
Tell me more about the relationships part?!? Did you start questioning if some people are really friends?
@@henri6595 yes. Some are just backstabbing or just plain disrespectful and then some I just sort of drifted from bc they just drank and had no careers or hobbies. It is pretty lonely when you make changes to be better but your group doesn't. I have found others now but it was tough at first.
It makes sense for women though because by 30 your biological clock is really ticking, as Jordan has spoken about before.
Hit the nail right on the head I’ll be this year and feel the same
why cry about this stuff? go enjoy life as it is
I'm still wrestling and doing bjj at 44. Big change happened when I got serious with a stretching and recovery deal. And I started pushing lifting for strength again. My back is sketchy. So I've stayed away from squats and deadlifts. But have been lifting sandbags. And it's going really good.
Women go through this too.
😂
Everyone is going through a quarter life crisis. Neither is harder than the other. It sucks for all of us.
@@coreyworthingtonii9230
Get over yourself corey
Yeah, it's called _desperation_ 😂💊
@@coreyworthingtonii9230
The "hit the wall" thing is not something women think about. It's an expression that young guys came up with to tell older women that they think they're ugly.
For my own part, I went for Shadow work and spiritual maturation. It's easier to bear hardship and nihilism when your subconscious isn't pulling you in a thousand directions simultaneously. All that's left is Enlightenment, socioeconomic progress and weight loss. But at least I've gone from 'excruciating nihilism' to 'chronic boredom'.
Don't some people lovee to waffle on about bollocks all!
Definitely had this
Say no to ai
@@WillyJunior- There's always a choice.
Ai love you😂
YES TO AI❤
Like father like son ❤ Chris ft Jordan 🎉
I am no body builder but I definitely feel like I went through something similar to this.
When I was a younger man I always imagined I wanted to seek some sort of high power, high compensation career. I wanted to be the CEO. In charge of everything. When I hit my later 20s, 27/28, I started to rethink this and by the time I was 30 I had already decided I actually already had a decent job at a good company and a solid 30+ year stint there before retirement would be more than acceptable to me. A little progression would be nice, sure, but I don't need to reach the top. I realised I really wanted to focus on my home life and the personal relationships that really mattered to me. Now I'm with the same company nearly 10 years and have a wife and two children and I'm honestly perfectly happy.
There’s a great article from the Art of Manliness about this.
Im almost 25 and one of the best changes I’ve made is exercising with a priority of being pain free. Game changer
I live my life in decades. 20s were spent learning about people, making mistakes, learning what works for me and developing my confidence. 30s we’re for discovering my passions in a professional sense. 40s will be developing my career and by 50 I should be in line to become a VP in my company. When I hit 50 I hope to retire to my cabin in the woods and live off the land.
Im there now with 25.
It‘s more important for me now to go my own way and absolutely dominate it, do service to others out of my growth for the higher good and get lots of money for it as an energy exchange. 🚀
I love coaching.
Going my own way does not have to mean becoming rich and famous.
But I am very rich inside and will become very rich on the outside too as an natural response, if I put in the work and take the appropriate money for it.
Going through this right now it’s awful. Having built myself up now realizing are some of things I’m doing even things worth doing or maybe it’s better to focus on more meaningful things.
As a man..hitting 30 wasnt just physically it also affects our mentality..from selfishness to generosity, from stupidity to being protectorate..its like a weird sudden shift..cant explain it
I think as you hit your 30’s, for many, you realise the mystery and potential of your life gets less and less. You find yourself on whatever path your decisions led you too and you’re currently on. If you have responsibilities and even if you don’t, it can still be extremely difficult if not impossible to change course and redirect. And you realise this is more or less it now…. The excitement and hope of the unknown dwindles as it becomes more known.
Been through 2 breakups the past 2-3 years. Lost friends during covid, partied my guts out the past few months and I realised all I need is God and a couple of solid bros. I'm purposely going into isolation to focus on lifting and my work/business because I don't see how I'm gonna achieve my goals by constantly hanging out with people unless they're on the same path as me.
even then you’re not guaranteed success
Prepare your ass trying and failing again. Do it if you’re still ok with that
@rub23n nothing is guaranteed in this life besides death and taxes my friend. But if you're working on your goals you're already more successful than the majority
@@KRISTOPHERFRESNIDOTrue that
My 20s were wrecked by crippling autoimmune disease, opioid addiction, drug felonies and male pattern baldness start by at 18. My 30s have been the best time of my life. I’m more athletic than most 20 year olds and have everything I’d ever want in front of me. We create the reality we deserve.
As someone who has been through my 30s, 40s, and now 50s, I will say this: What I down now has more than anything to do with what I feel is right for me, and what makes my wife and I can do together. It is way more important to me to do something both my wife and I enjoy together, than to try to be some propped up ideal of what society says I should be
I’ve got nothing and I can already tell that the standards of success set by society are definitely not something I want. Now it’s a matter of actually finding out what I want.
Got bored from bodybuilding at age 22 (had been lifting since 16). Switched to running and even ran some ultra trail races. Now I’m happy with combining all together so I look good (even not that huge as I was in my 20), enjoy running, do crossfit, cycling, swimming. Switching through different physical activities allows me to never get bored:) I am 28 now by the way.
I believe it’s just about your priorities. Being a teenager you mostly care about what people think of you and your looks is what determines your personality- you think. But getting older you understand that it is not everything and start doing things which will allow you to live a healthy and happy life.
Going through it right now. I’m 24 and just got my first job. Making tons of money but I realize how unhappy I am. I don’t even care about the money at all as long as I can pay my bills. I feel like what I actually want is a family, girlfriend, friends, community.
This happened to me at 20 years old, it's not a physical change, it's a mental one. You found yourself losing energy because you lost incentive to put energy in those things. I suffered with a lot of biomechanical issues from a young age so it shifted my priority to injury prevention and longevity which involved a lot of functional and unconventional training. Most people don't see the effects of abusing their bodies until they hit their 30's so they take longer to come to the realisation that they're not invincible and have to approach things more intelligently.
This man is just nailing nuggets of wisdom, really underestimated him
Holy shit this happened to me at 31 along with a big life event. Lifted since 18 to be big. Then at 31 got into combat and non-combat sports. Changed diet. Became leaner while still lifting moderately heavy. Felt more agile and energetic. It’s for real 🙏🏻
So funny that this thought is realized through working out rather than through career and family.
I actually feel better now physically at 31 than I did when I was in my mid 20s where I was at my physical “peak”. I was able to play back to back 60 min indoor soccer games the other day where I’d be gassed after just one game back in the day. Been on keto for about 8 months now, maybe only socially drink low carb alcohol 1-2 times a month with friends, no smoking at all, and I feel like my endurance/strength is through the roof
29 and went through a difficult break up a few months ago. She gave me a second chance and I failed again, realized I need to do inner work and that only I can be there for myself. Going to be 30 in 5 months and hopefully will be in a better place then but I’m afraid the scars will remain.
How you doin fam
When I was 27 I was a family man and didn't have the luxury of thinking about a "manopause."
Looking back from the vantage point of 73, I've realized that the distraction of an inescapable responsibility for the welfare of others was a blessing.
In other words, thankfully, I learned early on it would never be just about me.
Started Bjj at 19, now 24 I realize the importance of functional training. I’ve never really cared for body building and recently started yoga to improve ROM and flexibility, as well as improve some injuries in competitions. Can confirm I feel I’ve made the right choices. Wish someone would’ve really highlighted the importance of training flexibility at in high school at 16 though because that would’ve made me potentially even better at everything else. Did boxing growing up as a kid though, so I think that fortified my heart a lot growing up and it helped with removing a lot of asthma symptoms. Unfortunately I smoked weed heavy for like 1 year tho so I might’ve been messing with my cardio and lungs for a while there but I quit a few months ago and honestly never going back.
It's funny that he worded it that way, but I can relate to and understand precisely what he is saying.
literally the reason why the middle way should be embodied in all things, including fitness. I never experienced this, I never focused too much on working out, but i also never let myself get very big. I am now 34, I never had that experience that most men refer to. Even my close friends had it. Im not a buddhist, but "the middle way" is an objectively correct thing buddhism teaches.
Independence, the ability to think for yourself and not need others to think for you, is the foundation for self-esteem. If you can't think for yourself, you can't have self-esteem, and without self-esteem, you can't be happy in life.
It’s not about what Chris said. It’s the fact he’s talking to JP and HE IS LISTENING.
when I got to 35 yrs old, I finally realized that just lifting heavy weights wasn't all that wanted. Focus on mobility, flexibility as much as weight training has been a breath of fresh air to me. I have flexibility now that kid version of me never had. Above all else, I feel good.
I’ll never forgot as a young guy walking into what I thought was a really well paying job having men around me daily telling me to get out while I can and go to school for something. They weren’t kidding, it wasn’t just “new guy banter.” They truly hated that they chose to stay and they were so negative about it. They knew they messed up, but the pay kept them strapped. I’m glad I left and life turned out very differently.
I teach a holistic form of martial arts. Can't tell you how many guys say they wished they started when they were younger, and how much further along they'd be. Reality is, the pressure to do what's societally "in" is great.