"It's not a melody, it's a mood"! "When you repeat something, you either imbue it w more energy or you reflect on what you played" "This is hopeful. Maybe a memory that is hopeful" Perahia has a rare gift of communicating complex subjects succinctly & precisely.
Amazing performance, but Mr. Perahia is right, the student was not taking any time in most of the piece. When he finally did, it was incredibly beautiful - I love these masterclasses so much.
"It's not romantic, it's bitter." This kind of emotional nuance is what makes Perahia's playing so captivating. Excellent playing and absorbing under pressure, Yali!
The player is absolutely outstanding although it's quite challenging to have the emotional depth at this age for that kind of piece. Excellent class, great upload, many thanks.
With all these master classes, the distinction is nearly always about never giving way to the notes alone; there is always a presence of mood, intent and emotion, a visual passage…
I can't believe that Perahia told him to listen to Friedman. He just rose many levels in my esteem. Because Friedman interprets every note, he digs below the surface to capture every nuance of feeling in the music, and he lets the music breathe. Even the bass notes are beautiful in his interpretation. They seem prayerful. He plays with a lot of rubato, because that is dictated by the emotions that the music expresses. Does any pianist understand that today? Just Perahia.
Extraordinary masterclass. Thank you for posting them, they are very inspiring. Magnificent working duo here between the brilliant student and the master. I understand Ballad 4 better now. It is very enriching.
Amazing. It is so rewarding to carefully listen as Maestro Perahia verbally unveils his inner musical and emotional world and instructs on how to implement it through craftmanship. Enlightening and priceless.
You see Perahia's English is perfectly poised. "Not turbulent, but pathetic." This articulate quality allows him to communicate perfectly what he means in words as well as on the piano.
Yali is a truly receptive pianist, he absorbs Perahia's meaning and can execute it. Over and over! What an opportunity - a master class with Perahia who is considered the greatest living pianist! (The other great pianists have died, leaving Perahia as the sole recipient of "greatest living pianist" accolade.)
Zaken plays it through - not lingering over every pretty bit. Also, not bangy. Easy to add rubato and sound. Hard to get rid of. Was happy to hear this.
The slow part is an aria, like one by Bellini, Chopin’s friend. I’m a big advocate of actually singing melodies out loud, then matching that on the keyboard.
tame more time🙏🏾 I so agree in an overagitated and stressdriven society we need more time more rubato to contemplate love it!for more then 50 years im living my live as a pianoteacher and in this hectic times my”mission” is all about take time thanks for posting Marga
Bravo! Grew up with Murray Perahia's recording since 1994 when the Ballades were released by Sony classical. This masterclass is a great insight to what is one of the most inspiring interpretation of the ballades. The student is just fenomenal in responding to Perahia's ideas. Perahia's version of the Ballade is on youtube: ua-cam.com/video/NXlHBL1LBl8/v-deo.html&ab_channel=MurrayPerahia-Topic
Wow, a spectacular masterclass! "A murder has happened" - who else had their hair standing on end by then and right to the end? Terrific student and peerless teacher.
Amazing masterclass. I think the young pianists are to anxious sometimes, and end up playing passages in a hurry. For me the ultimate performance of this piece is from Yuliana Avdeeva 2010.
I feel like most of the people with negative comments hear cant do half of what they are saying. Why is it so hard for people to look past small things and appreciate the good things
Every pianist today, and for decades rushes from phrase to phrase. Why in such a hurry? Because they don't understand that notes are feelings or parts of feelings. They are afraid to linger on a note or a phrase, but that is absolutely necessary for both the pianist and the audience to fully appreciate the emotions and beauties of the music. If a singer rushes from phrase to phrase, we would say that she is unmusical. If a pianist does this, it's the same.
Yali is to me a virtuoso himself, and only needs a little polishing here and there. I don't recall anyone at Juilliard playing with his virtuosity and ability to incorporate emotional changes.
This coda sounds as violent as the ballet Mayerling! Only Mayerling is Liszt. Yali Zaken is certainly one of the "outstanding pianists". Great thanks to both virtuosos!
Interesting that you mention Friedman, my favorite pianist. His performance of this work is also on youtube. Combines power with poetry and great sensitivity. Interprets everything and gives it meaning. Let's the piece breathe, and I love his left hand, which expresses feelings that other pianists don't know exist.
I notice Perahia uses letters for the notes like you learn in the States. He is originally American. When I studied in Israel, they used do re mi, and I was constantly mixed up between notes!
never heard such virile god like loving sweetness .. only in horowitz.. pogorelich... where else can you find it.. in chopin himself.. ua-cam.com/video/uFhlIhdNGjg/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/hAi7dnvNCw0/v-deo.html "Simplicity is the highest goal, achievable when you have overcome all difficulties. After one has played a vast quantity of notes and more notes, it is simplicity that emerges as the crowning reward of art." Chopin. ---- "Under the fingers of Chopins´s hand the piano became the voice of an archangel, an orchestra, an army, a raging ocean, a creation of the universe, the end of the world." Solange Clesinger. --- "Chopin´s playing evoked all the sweet and sorrowful voices of the past. Chopin sang the tears of music...in a whole gamut of different forms and voices, from that of the warrior to those of children and angels..." Bohdan Zaleski, polish poet, personal diary 2 feb 1844. Fight to achieve quality, go deeper... find the origin of the sound. --- You have to get into the phycological frame of mind in which composers wrote their works in order to discover its secrets. One should always try as much as possible to rediscover music as though one is hearing it for the first time, searching everywhere for new meanings and new depths. The highest function of the artist is to release the spirituality and the emotional immediacy that lie within the score. A composition can only be performed well if it is entirely yours, not only every note from memory, but the notes have become you, and you have become the notes. Fight and find the substance, then go to the higher spheres. Music takes you to another universe of eternity that remains with you after the concert is finished. Ivo Pogorelich.
Il ne s'agit pas tant du temps écoulé que de ce qui réside entre les moments. Ce pianiste a encore un long chemin à parcourir, tandis que Monsieur Perehaia touche presque au but.
I mean why would a young person have the life experience to interpret this piece at all... after a person has suffered through loss and depression, they'll cry over the beginning of this piece.
Some great artists are not as great as teachers. Obviously, Perahia has many a wonderful things to say, but he's too intrusive, i.e. he talks too much ;-)
I dont like these masterclasses. Students just become a copy of their Teacher. Jazz Musician Teachers never tell their students how to express Jazz Music.
Yeah I get what you mean. I think the student should apply the teachings of the masterclass in everything they do (if they like it), without feeling there's a right way to play. It's just a tool at their disposal.
It is called the "drilling" method of work. But you need to go beyond the details and draw your own conclusions from them, not follow the instructions blindly. Perahia is a unique and outstanding artist with a deep, sincere love of music. You can learn so much about music by listening to the class this way.
@@bubffm Lots of people agree with me. This young pianist is typical. He has no feeling for the emotional content of the music and how to express it. Being told when to play with rubato is pathetic.
"It's not a melody, it's a mood"!
"When you repeat something, you either imbue it w more energy or you reflect on what you played"
"This is hopeful. Maybe a memory that is hopeful"
Perahia has a rare gift of communicating complex subjects succinctly & precisely.
Amazing performance, but Mr. Perahia is right, the student was not taking any time in most of the piece. When he finally did, it was incredibly beautiful - I love these masterclasses so much.
The student works hard but perhaps need more life experience to truly understand the emotions of this 4th Ballade, which is all very normal
This boy is a good pianist. Good sense of drive, very individual interpretation and some artistic intuition.
Hoping the best for him
He is expressing so much but he doesn't let us feel it because he is rushing. It can be beautiful, it will. This young pianist is very rich inside.
"It's not romantic, it's bitter." This kind of emotional nuance is what makes Perahia's playing so captivating. Excellent playing and absorbing under pressure, Yali!
Murray perahia ... a real dumbass! Thanks so so much!!!!
The player is absolutely outstanding although it's quite challenging to have the emotional depth at this age for that kind of piece. Excellent class, great upload, many thanks.
With all these master classes, the distinction is nearly always about never giving way to the notes alone; there is always a presence of mood, intent and emotion, a visual passage…
I can't believe that Perahia told him to listen to Friedman. He just rose many levels in my esteem. Because Friedman interprets every note, he digs below the surface to capture every nuance of feeling in the music, and he lets the music breathe. Even the bass notes are beautiful in his interpretation. They seem prayerful. He plays with a lot of rubato, because that is dictated by the emotions that the music expresses. Does any pianist understand that today? Just Perahia.
Extraordinary masterclass. Thank you for posting them, they are very inspiring. Magnificent working duo here between the brilliant student and the master. I understand Ballad 4 better now. It is very enriching.
The opening phrase is so difficult to phrase, the voicing is right up there with the opening of Beethoven 4th.
This young man is talented.
30:47 hilarious bit where Murray Perahia demonstrates his godly brilliance for a brief moment and says "etcetera".
what a master.... "good.. thats lovely.. unreal.. thats beautiful.. " he says... love him.. infinite love of music
Amazing. It is so rewarding to carefully listen as Maestro Perahia verbally unveils his inner musical and emotional world and instructs on how to implement it through craftmanship. Enlightening and priceless.
You see Perahia's English is perfectly poised. "Not turbulent, but pathetic." This articulate quality allows him to communicate perfectly what he means in words as well as on the piano.
Yali is a truly receptive pianist, he absorbs Perahia's meaning and can execute it. Over and over! What an opportunity - a master class with Perahia who is considered the greatest living pianist! (The other great pianists have died, leaving Perahia as the sole recipient of "greatest living pianist" accolade.)
Argerich Sokolov :p
Richard Goode, Emanuel Ax, Marc-Andre Hamelin, they are also the greatest living pianists!
Спасибо , за доставленное учебно - эстетическое удовольствие .. Прекрасный учитель и замечательный ученик
great teaching, even i learned a lot of things
I love his playing, and I love his teaching as much! truly great masterclass ...!
Zaken plays it through - not lingering over every pretty bit. Also, not bangy. Easy to add rubato and sound. Hard to get rid of. Was happy to hear this.
Perahia is a true master. He adds so much to the student's performance.
The slow part is an aria, like one by Bellini, Chopin’s friend. I’m a big advocate of actually singing melodies out loud, then matching that on the keyboard.
Ah! ❤CHOPIN ❤
Wow. Just gorgeous. Loved it. ❤
Very beautifully rendered Ballad No.4! Such an unadulterated sound he makes!
tame more time🙏🏾 I so agree in an overagitated and stressdriven society we need more time more rubato to contemplate love it!for more then 50 years im living my live as a pianoteacher and in this hectic times my”mission” is all about take time thanks for posting Marga
Bravo! Grew up with Murray Perahia's recording since 1994 when the Ballades were released by Sony classical. This masterclass is a great insight to what is one of the most inspiring interpretation of the ballades. The student is just fenomenal in responding to Perahia's ideas. Perahia's version of the Ballade is on youtube: ua-cam.com/video/NXlHBL1LBl8/v-deo.html&ab_channel=MurrayPerahia-Topic
The kid needs 10 more years, few heartbreaks
Wow, a spectacular masterclass! "A murder has happened" - who else had their hair standing on end by then and right to the end?
Terrific student and peerless teacher.
Very insightful teaching! Maestro MP has such a profound understanding of Chopin. Beautiful performance as well.
Amazing masterclass. I think the young pianists are to anxious sometimes, and end up playing passages in a hurry. For me the ultimate performance of this piece is from Yuliana Avdeeva 2010.
EXTRAORDINARY all round!
I like how Perahia uses Schenkerian analysis on his teaching
10:18 Ignaz Friedman - my grandfather knew him and got his highest credentials. I have his handwritten letters.
my cat is meowing and pawing at the screen, she loves it so much, lol
Bravo! Marvelous Master Class! I have a Piano Festival upcoming 45th and I was so inspired!!!
Wow
I didn't know speedruns existed on classical pieces too... i'm glad he got some help by the great Perahia
BRAVISSIMO.¨!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wonderful
What a lesson
"ha ha.. thats in another world... " he takes us to heaven on earth
THANK YOU!
10:00 MP starts talking
👏👏👏👏
Also, his corrections are kindly. At Juilliard, I have seen harshly critical master classes.
I feel like most of the people with negative comments hear cant do half of what they are saying. Why is it so hard for people to look past small things and appreciate the good things
39:40 wow!
Every pianist today, and for decades rushes from phrase to phrase. Why in such a hurry? Because they don't understand that notes are feelings or parts of feelings. They are afraid to linger on a note or a phrase, but that is absolutely necessary for both the pianist and the audience to fully appreciate the emotions and beauties of the music. If a singer rushes from phrase to phrase, we would say that she is unmusical. If a pianist does this, it's the same.
Yali is to me a virtuoso himself, and only needs a little polishing here and there. I don't recall anyone at Juilliard playing with his virtuosity and ability to incorporate emotional changes.
This coda sounds as violent as the ballet Mayerling! Only Mayerling is Liszt. Yali Zaken is certainly one of the "outstanding pianists". Great thanks to both virtuosos!
Ignaz Friedman was a great pianist of a previous era.
Interesting that you mention Friedman, my favorite pianist. His performance of this work is also on youtube. Combines power with poetry and great sensitivity. Interprets everything and gives it meaning. Let's the piece breathe, and I love his left hand, which expresses feelings that other pianists don't know exist.
❤❤❤❤❤🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🍃🍃🍃🍃🍃🍀🤗
The problem with the beginning is that you have to be relaxed and in a kind of strained mood at the same time..
I notice Perahia uses letters for the notes like you learn in the States. He is originally American. When I studied in Israel, they used do re mi, and I was constantly mixed up between notes!
At Mannes (where Perahia studied) after a year or two, most students use the solfege syllabes.
At 42:04 Perahia sings a line from the coda and says it’s been transformed from somewhere else. Where else was that in the piece?
first theme after the introduction I think, u can barely hear the resemblance, so I'm not sure either
2nd theme of Polonaise fantasy (second time around it’s literally in f minor too)
@@user-zz5je1ry1o def not, polonaise fantasy was completed in 1846, 4th ballade was completed in 1842
@@rainchen7846 oh gosh…
0:44
Is this on occupied land?
Ah, the obligatory head shaking, which somehow makes the music better? >.
39:40
never heard such virile god like loving sweetness .. only in horowitz.. pogorelich... where else can you find it.. in chopin himself..
ua-cam.com/video/uFhlIhdNGjg/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/hAi7dnvNCw0/v-deo.html
"Simplicity is the highest goal, achievable when you have overcome all difficulties. After one has played a vast quantity of notes and more notes, it is simplicity that emerges as the crowning reward of art."
Chopin.
----
"Under the fingers of Chopins´s hand the piano became the voice of an archangel, an orchestra, an army, a raging ocean, a creation of the universe, the end of the world."
Solange Clesinger.
---
"Chopin´s playing evoked all the sweet and sorrowful voices of the past. Chopin sang the tears of music...in a whole gamut of different forms and voices, from that of the warrior to those of children and angels..."
Bohdan Zaleski, polish poet, personal diary 2 feb 1844.
Fight to achieve quality, go deeper... find the origin of the sound.
---
You have to get into the phycological frame of mind in which composers wrote their works in order to discover its secrets.
One should always try as much as possible to rediscover music as though one is hearing it for the first time, searching everywhere for new meanings and new depths.
The highest function of the artist is to release the spirituality and the emotional immediacy that lie within the score.
A composition can only be performed well if it is entirely yours, not only every note from memory, but the notes have become you, and you have become the notes.
Fight and find the substance, then go to the higher spheres.
Music takes you to another universe of eternity that remains with you after the concert is finished.
Ivo Pogorelich.
Чтобы на все это сказал Фредерик?
Il ne s'agit pas tant du temps écoulé que de ce qui réside entre les moments. Ce pianiste a encore un long chemin à parcourir, tandis que Monsieur Perehaia touche presque au but.
Perahia is a goat, but are we not gonna mention how good of a pianist Yali Zaken is???
uh not tame time ofcourse but take more time😉
Melvin Belvin
Very nice just think he could ask him the student what he thinks what he wants rather than telling him what to do
I mean why would a young person have the life experience to interpret this piece at all... after a person has suffered through loss and depression, they'll cry over the beginning of this piece.
Wow wow - Student x does'nt feel anything! What a luckely occasion.
He was just rushing through every section, there was hardly any feeling anywhere! It was devoid of Chopin! Sadz!
@@sparkle1272001 lots of pretty sounds but lacking poetry and characterization
Rushing too much, needs to take more time indeed
Exactly what I thought
Murray keeps trying to stpp him from rushimg. Plenty of drama later on. The student has a gre at technique but not introspective enough
😆🤦🏻🙄
와이리 히바리가없노
Get someone with video skills next time. White Balance is totally off. I get eye cancer watching 😢
Agreed!
too young for this masterpiece
This is frustrating to watch!
Some great artists are not as great as teachers. Obviously, Perahia has many a wonderful things to say, but he's too intrusive, i.e. he talks too much ;-)
too young to master this piece
Perahia is much less poetic than this student naturally is, hence it's a big loss of time for this student.
I dont like these masterclasses. Students just become a copy of their Teacher. Jazz Musician Teachers never tell their students how to express Jazz Music.
Yeah I get what you mean. I think the student should apply the teachings of the masterclass in everything they do (if they like it), without feeling there's a right way to play. It's just a tool at their disposal.
It is called the "drilling" method of work. But you need to go beyond the details and draw your own conclusions from them, not follow the instructions blindly. Perahia is a unique and outstanding artist with a deep, sincere love of music. You can learn so much about music by listening to the class this way.
Ouch. This guy has no musical sense....
Oh please
True, and neither do most pianists today.
@@alanmadeira-metz3531 Certainly not true.
@@bubffm Lots of people agree with me. This young pianist is typical. He has no feeling for the emotional content of the music and how to express it. Being told when to play with rubato is pathetic.
@@alanmadeira-metz3531 Good for you. I dont. EOS
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