We've had our 23 for a week now. Given all the bad reviews, I almost didn't consider it but started noticing some really great lease deals on the remaining 23s. My wife and I have actually driven most EVs either via rentals or test drives over the past year, so we had a pretty good sense of what we like and dislike. Usually, one of us will really hate something and it'll be a deal breaker. With this car, we both got out and looked at each other waiting for the inevitable deal breaker comment. It drove really nicely and punches above its weight in terms of suspension, seat comfort and steering feel and refinement. Actually preferred it in many ways even to a rental BMW iX we got over the summer. Having read all the bad reviews, I had low expectations for the infotainment and I did warn my wife (who is a technophobe) about it. We both agreed that as long as it had CarPlay we didn't really care that much. My only real gripes are that it takes too long to connect to Carplay (or even to start playing satellite radio). Worse than any other car i've owned or rented in that respect. My other gripe is that they dont give you a way to view media info on the driver display. I rarely use the driver assistance or nav views, but would love to have media info front and center. At the very least, would it have killed them to add a button to flip through the different sources on the steering wheel (almost every car i've owned or driven in the past 20 years has had this feature)? Oh, and the window switches are dumb but forutunatley I rarely need to use them. That's it. But, overall, we are really liking this car. Honestly, the only cars I'd want more than this one would be a Taycan wagon or the upcoming Audi A6 etron wagon...both of which would be over double the price of an ID4. And, as far as comparing to what you can get in terms of ICE vehicles for this price...forget it. I do love the looks of the Ioniq5 but the lease prices of those are much higher and I didn't think the build quality or ride quality was as as good. Mustang Mach E didn't do anything for me. And I can't even imagine picking a crappy turbo 4 cylinder (even ones from Audi or BMW) over this. Teslas have too many deal breakers to even list.
12K and I love it! Software could be a little faster to react. The drive and Travel Assist are great as well as the auto brake. Easily the best car I've ever owned.
I'am from the Netherlands and over here in Europe we have the ID.4 GTX a AWD 300 hp car. wich I have... I have to say that every time I look at the car I'am very happy. I agree with al your opinions and I hope that my wife and me can drive this car for many years to come. Thanks for your fantastic and honest review.
I've had my 2024 ID.4 S for a week now and I love it. Everyone rags on the software and infotainment screen, I don't have a problem with it. It is very layered, and can be difficult to deal with while driving, but if you put the apps you like on your favorites, it's much easier to handle while driving. Once I get my level 2 home charger installed then all will be great.
Have the 21 Pro S. I love the paint because it’s moonstone gray. Just the paint is easily to get scratched. For some reason at a specific area it disconnects the CarPlay. And still waiting for the software 3.2
The main advantage of the haptic buttons is swiping. You don’t need to look down or fidget when you swipe. It took me by surprise when I realized how those haptic buttons are intended to be used. It’s amazingly intuitive to use, when you need to adjust ACC cruising speed or sound volume or skip songs on the steering wheel. You just swipe your thumbs across the middle of the panels , super easy and effortless, no need to look down or find the right buttons. It’s a pity those buttons are misunderstood. Have had our 2022 ID. for a year. It's an absolute joy to use.
Thank you For the thorough review.It's very useful getting the second opinion from your wife, for example The comments she made about the window control (where as you usually don't even use it). Keep up the great work!
Thanks for shedding light on the "issues" that are consistently raised with this car. I just test drove one and decided to buy a 2023 base model. Loved it. Much better than the other EVs I've tested this week (Nero, Kona). The obsession with the rear window control is rediculous as is the unlighted sliders. Every car has oddities. The positives of the ID4 are huge for me.
like box on 4 wheels and interior so cheaply with that shitty 2 tablets and VW wants 50000+ euro for that car size of VW Polo ?? and they aven admits that batteries will lost up to 30% of capacity in several years of usage
who saye dthat i will?? and i see that many dont buy it and VW must paussed production but wtf they think that there is so much idiots who will pay 50000euro for car size of Škoda Fabia or Polo which have even better interior then this EV junk but they cost 3x less ?? are they really serious in stupid VW!? @@garyclack3807
Thanks for the review! Only 2,500 miles on my 2023 Pro S AWD so far and I love the ID.4. As stated in your review, the ID.4 is a nice riding/handling car, far nicer than others I've owned. I, too, love the travel assist functions and use them anytime I'm on the highway. Yes, the software can lag on startup and trying to fast charge on a cold battery can be frustrating, but overall, the ID.4 is a great vehicle that just happens to be an EV. The AWD handles wonderfully in snow, probably the best vehicle I have ever owned in that regard, even without dedicated snow tires.
I have the 2023 ProS rwd and enjoy the car for the most part. Seats are comfy, heated seats are great. Smooth and quiet. I use the cruise control functions around town more than highway driving actually. I never could log in as the main user so I’m just a guest in my own car. I agree with much of what you folks have said. I noticed your car was up to 170+kw while charging. The highest I’ve reached is maybe 133kw at a 350kw station. I envy the Ionic5’s and EV6’s that charge in 15-20 minutes. So far my biggest pet peeve is my key fob batteries now last maybe two weeks. I’ve turned off the Auto Unlock/proximity features, tried different battery brands, no difference. The original batteries lasted 3 months but since then, two weeks. I use a faraday box when at home. I have to carry a spare battery in my pocket when I leave the house. I’m worried I will break the plastic cover on the door handle each time I need to use the actual key to open the door. My first year of ownership will be in June ‘24. Good job on your channel btw!
I picked up a used 2023 pro s awd last week and I really like it. I drove it from Southern California back home to Washington state. Great ride, great charging with the sk battery, running version 3.5 and it’s snappier than the UI on my last 2 vehicles. Most major complaints are a non issue for me. Same as you addressed. I think the combination of early software issues and the 2024 refresh softened demand for the 23’s. I got an insane deal that was too good to pass up. Looks great in the pure grey color too. Overall a great purchase.
All your points I echo them. The car has grown on me and I do like it a lot, I have the Pro S AWD and I wish it had a little more range like 280 would have been ideal. but I must say the range and regenerative breaking is awesome! I can't stand the notifications as you said. quite annoying one thing I would have pointed out is every time ya get into the car you have to push OK for the driver. I guess it is great if ya have two drivers then all the settings are for each other, but every time I drive I have to hit OK on the screen to get it into the screen. overall I am pleased with it and I never use the Navigation to navigate , I do use it to show range and how much battery % left to get to chargers , that is nice
Nice review. I have a '22 Bolt EV (don't travel much) and so many other EV's talk/complain about SOFTWARE updates or cluncky or better then the other guy, etc. And funny the Bolt never gets or got any updates so it's not a talking point. Also the simplicity of the car. If there's smoke outside just hit the RECIRC button and you're good. And unlike the Mach-E which will SWITCH back to fresh air, the bolt will stay in recirc until you release it. I have wireless carplay and a wireless charge pad (2LT trim) and the 360 camera view is crystal clear. Hope the '24 works out for you.
Mostly agree with you. Love my ID4. I do think the Travel Assist haptic buttons can be a safety hazard if you brush up against them, and you haven't fully disengaged it when parking.
Just got a great deal in a new 2023 Pro S AWD. After all my research prior to purchase I set a low bar in my head from the user complaints in the reviews. I have zero complaints and found everything the reviewers complained about to be a non-issue. ...One individual prior to me posted having to (edit)-"tap box on screen" for user profile every time you start the car, I would agree with that as my only complaint.
I have a 23’ AWD Pro, it drives great and it’s comfortable. It’s not the best looking EV out there but not the worse, some parts of the car feel cheap but not as cheap as other brands. It’s not my only car as I only bought it just to commute. If it weren’t for the incentives, rebates and free charging I would have not considered the ID.4. If you paid msrp and didn’t qualify for any tax credits, I’m not sure why you would choose this EV over other brands.
Is there a way the exterior lights go on automatically during night and day? Now when I start it starts auto but then the lights are out during the day and I would like to to be on. I have to do it manually every time, is there a way this is standard?
I think the DRLs are always on? Then the main headlights come on at night? We have it set on auto on the little light panel to the left of the steering wheel. Just toggle through to auto!
My biggest issue with my 2023 ID.4 is the manually selection of the user profile every time you get in the car and the time it takes to log in to the profile. For example: I get in the car, I have to manually pick the profile (every other cars just automatically logging in to the last profile) and it take a minute or so, if I need to get out and fix my kid on the back and/or load something I have to do it again. Sometimes the android auto stars automatically, sometimes I have to do it manually it takes up to 3 minutes. My aftermarket Toyota's Android Auto puck takes about 20 second and doesn't require me to press anything.
Great to hear your impressions. I test drove a 2022 and that software system just confounded me. And I'm not a guy who's whole life centres around delving into the infotainment, but that basically killed my interest in the ID4. Now that I've seen a couple videos on the new system, new shifter, new main screen, new much more powerful motors... it looks like it's a real contender. Having said that, I just drove the new Model 3 and it's really made a lot of improvements in refinement. Certainly you have to get used to the buttons on the steering wheel replacing the stalks, but if the new Model Y is much more refined like the Model 3, it's also going to be a big competitor. I just think VW has over priced the ID4 now here in Canada. It's the same price as a Model Y AWD. And the RWD Model Y is less than the RWD ID4.
My only complaint about my 2023 ID.4 Pro S AWD is that the 2024 is even better, and I would probably go with the rear wheel drive and wait for NACS to happen. Well, that, and the software really is too slow to start up, but after that it's fine.
I show your videos to my wife to help with her apprehensions over getting an ID.4. Thanks. Question: Does your ID.4 have the staggered tire size arrangement or does it have identically sized wheels/tires? I ask because people have concerns about tire wear and not being able to rotate the tires as easily.
ID.4 comes standard with staggered. We still have that set up! Since it is RWD there appears to be a slight bit more of wear in the back compared to the front (as there should be), but it doesn't appear to be a crazy difference.
Excellent assessment provided on the ID 4, which has either received a low rating or little appreciation from other reviewers. particularly those who contrast it with the Skoda Enyaq or Q4 Etron. The Q4 Etron, which has a similar drive to ID4 has received negative ratings from other Bhias users who thought ID 4 was too noisy or too bumpy on the road, which is unfair. Even VW Customer Services, which assists Audi, Skoda, and VW customers, stated that the ID4 is their best-engineered vehicle and more sophisticated than those of its sister firms. Please test the vehicle and you will see for yourself. However its a matter of choice and I have decided to go for ID4 delivering on 19th Feb. The drive beats 90% of EVs in the market and you wont be disappointed. Please note reviewers in their reviews jumping from one vehicle to another in their videos cannot be trusted as they will play bhias subconsciously not realising how ridiculous their comments are made.One reviewer in the Q4 was on a very jumpy road and his head nearly bashing the ceiling of car but did not comment negatively. The same route driven in the ID4 he bickered on with multiple negative comments. Most reviews I will not trust but husband and wife whom both drived the same car and also renewing their vehicle to same model can be trusted.
Wow, nice review as a wrap up. Really the next one I hope to see is your compare and contrast with your new ID4. I had the opportunity to drive one for a few weeks this past fall and I have to agree with your wife on the steering wheel haptics. Coming from an e-tron I just never mastered the ID.4 haptics. Perhaps with time. I also never road tripped the ID.4 so my fast charging experience was limited but I thought that it hit the downward part of its charging curve early. Again, coming from an e-tron. But I almost liked it better than the Q4 e-tron I had as a loaner. Almost. Great review.
Hmm... It is tough to say with the way things have depreciated, I would say lease for now. If you plan to keep it for the long haul, then go ahead and buy it! We are likely to lease our 2024. $20k in depreciation in one year was a tough pill to swallow. If I didn't want to get the 2024 for the updates and content, I would just sit on or current ID.4 for sure..
I really like the VW ID.4 and Polestar 2 but here in Louisiana I am no where near a charger.. the electrify america ones are 2 hours away and the other about 3 hours.. tesla charges are 60 miles NE from me and 80 miles NW of me assuming you can use a Tesla charger.. So I would have to charge strictly at home. And I don't know if any one services one in my area so it would be an hour or so away to get it to a service center, but all that is true if you have a Tesla also. So those are the big issues to overcome.
Hmm... Sometimes ours doesn't latch well with certain Level 2 handles. What Level 2 EVSE are you currently using? Tough to help without seeing what's going on, but I will try and help! Feel free to email me with pictures of what's going on!
@@theaverageev hello sir so I turn the power supply switch on the breaker off and off and now I am able to charge my car it was not getting power supply from the beaker just want to let you know thanks once again
Looping back around, I know you're looking forward to your 2024 ID.4 but the VW dealership near me is moving locations and trying to clear off their lot, so they've put some pretty good discounts on ID.4s in addition to the tax credit and it's looking like a potentially sweet deal. Since this is only for cars on the lot my only choices would be 2023s. Is it worth making a move or is it smarter in your opinion to wait for a '24 (or '25, depending on when VW starts going with NACS)? Also, their sale incentives make the Pro S and Pro price competitive. In your experience is there anything the Pro S has that you wish your Pro had? Thanks for your input if you have the time.
I would not wait for native NACS since there will be adapters. It really depends on how you plan to use the vehicle. If you are pretty much just going to cruise and use CarPlay or Android Auto, then save the money and get the 2023. If you want the improved infotainment, faster motor, and battery preconditioning, then wait for the 2024. If you plan on charging at home then battery preconditioning isn't as important, but if you will need to rely on public charging and like to roadtrip a lot, then the battery preconditioning is a must have. There have been no announcement of battery preconditioning coming to 2023s anytime soon, even though the cars have the equipment to do it. As for Pro vs Pro S, the moon roof is nice for Pro S, but I never get to enjoy since looking straight up is frowned upon when driving! Haha! The power seats are nice for Pro S and the materials are nice as well compared to the Pro. The 2024 has ventilated seats which is new for the ID.4. The Pro S has massaging seats as well, which are fine! Not the best, but not the worst. The S also has power lift gate which we haven't missed much, but is definitely nice to have!
@@theaverageev Thanks for the in-depth answer. I'd be mostly commuting and we're looking to install an L2 hookup at home (we do have a regular 110V outlet I could use to top up daily since I'm normally only going about 10 mi a day) and there's a municipal charger in my town. Surprisingly the garage at Philly 30th Street Station doesn't have charging yet and I commute out of there. I'll have to talk to the management about that. As far as the Pro vs Pro S it sounds like I could take or leave most of it. I use AA for infotainment so no big deal there and in-car software can always get an update in the future, who knows. My current daily driver is a 13-year old Jetta S, so it has heated seats and that's it from a comfort perspective so I wouldn't be missing anything. Never had leather seats, heated steering, any of that.
Then it sounds like Pro is a good fit for you! I just got some updates about the 2024 and it will be about $900 more expensive and will not include the 3 year free charging plan. Instead it will have 500kWh and 3 years of free Pass+ membership with Electrify America!
@@theaverageev Sadly after running the finances I may just not be in the position to make the jump until next year. So it goes. So I'll just keep watching your channel so I'll be best informed for next year. :)
I agree with you. I have a 2022 Pro S RWD and it's been a great car. I don't seem to have many issues with the software. And 18 months of ownership with 57k miles driven. I have no issues with the charging speed. Plus my original tires lasted 49k. I now have Pirrelli Scorpion Zeros AS Elec and they have improved the ride.
Nice review. You mentioned trading in for a 24' model. What do you guys think about the brutal depreciation for the ID.4? I sold my 21' Pro S RWD last summer for $29k, just checked KBB and the trade on it now would be $18k after accounting for the additional miles.... 🤯
Soul crushing... truly sucks. If I didn't have this channel we would obviously just keep the 2023. We are going to lease the 2024 to avoid this depreciation mess again. Then figure everything out in three years as far as a more permanent car for my wife!
I love my 2023 ID.4 Pro S AWD! I might not have used the features to full capacity, but took her on a trip and she took great care of me.
Glad to hear it! We still love ours!
@@theaverageev "I honestly don't have time to practice the haptics on my window switches" is hilarious!!
We've had our 23 for a week now. Given all the bad reviews, I almost didn't consider it but started noticing some really great lease deals on the remaining 23s. My wife and I have actually driven most EVs either via rentals or test drives over the past year, so we had a pretty good sense of what we like and dislike. Usually, one of us will really hate something and it'll be a deal breaker. With this car, we both got out and looked at each other waiting for the inevitable deal breaker comment. It drove really nicely and punches above its weight in terms of suspension, seat comfort and steering feel and refinement. Actually preferred it in many ways even to a rental BMW iX we got over the summer. Having read all the bad reviews, I had low expectations for the infotainment and I did warn my wife (who is a technophobe) about it. We both agreed that as long as it had CarPlay we didn't really care that much. My only real gripes are that it takes too long to connect to Carplay (or even to start playing satellite radio). Worse than any other car i've owned or rented in that respect. My other gripe is that they dont give you a way to view media info on the driver display. I rarely use the driver assistance or nav views, but would love to have media info front and center. At the very least, would it have killed them to add a button to flip through the different sources on the steering wheel (almost every car i've owned or driven in the past 20 years has had this feature)? Oh, and the window switches are dumb but forutunatley I rarely need to use them. That's it. But, overall, we are really liking this car. Honestly, the only cars I'd want more than this one would be a Taycan wagon or the upcoming Audi A6 etron wagon...both of which would be over double the price of an ID4. And, as far as comparing to what you can get in terms of ICE vehicles for this price...forget it. I do love the looks of the Ioniq5 but the lease prices of those are much higher and I didn't think the build quality or ride quality was as as good. Mustang Mach E didn't do anything for me. And I can't even imagine picking a crappy turbo 4 cylinder (even ones from Audi or BMW) over this. Teslas have too many deal breakers to even list.
12K and I love it! Software could be a little faster to react. The drive and Travel Assist are great as well as the auto brake. Easily the best car I've ever owned.
Totally agree!
What version of the software are you currently running?
@@coreyschmidt734 3.1 right now. It looks like they are still pushing the latest update to 22s, I will make a big deal when 23s get 3.2!
I have the 2023 id4. It's great.
I'am from the Netherlands and over here in Europe we have the ID.4 GTX a AWD 300 hp car. wich I have...
I have to say that every time I look at the car I'am very happy.
I agree with al your opinions and I hope that my wife and me can drive this car for many years to come.
Thanks for your fantastic and honest review.
I've had my 2024 ID.4 S for a week now and I love it. Everyone rags on the software and infotainment screen, I don't have a problem with it. It is very layered, and can be difficult to deal with while driving, but if you put the apps you like on your favorites, it's much easier to handle while driving. Once I get my level 2 home charger installed then all will be great.
We love our ID.4!
Picked mine up two weeks ago.
I find the steering a little light at motorway speeds.
@@BluesnCruise hmm, I don’t get the same impression. Interesting!
Have the 21 Pro S. I love the paint because it’s moonstone gray. Just the paint is easily to get scratched. For some reason at a specific area it disconnects the CarPlay. And still waiting for the software 3.2
The main advantage of the haptic buttons is swiping. You don’t need to look down or fidget when you swipe. It took me by surprise when I realized how those haptic buttons are intended to be used. It’s amazingly intuitive to use, when you need to adjust ACC cruising speed or sound volume or skip songs on the steering wheel. You just swipe your thumbs across the middle of the panels , super easy and effortless, no need to look down or find the right buttons. It’s a pity those buttons are misunderstood. Have had our 2022 ID. for a year. It's an absolute joy to use.
I love the haptics!
Thank you For the thorough review.It's very useful getting the second opinion from your wife, for example The comments she made about the window control (where as you usually don't even use it).
Keep up the great work!
Thanks for shedding light on the "issues" that are consistently raised with this car. I just test drove one and decided to buy a 2023 base model. Loved it. Much better than the other EVs I've tested this week (Nero, Kona). The obsession with the rear window control is rediculous as is the unlighted sliders. Every car has oddities. The positives of the ID4 are huge for me.
Nice well rounded honest, real world review
I honestly love the look of the ID4, very well designed.❤
like box on 4 wheels and interior so cheaply with that shitty 2 tablets and VW wants 50000+ euro for that car size of VW Polo ?? and they aven admits that batteries will lost up to 30% of capacity in several years of usage
@@Mr11ESSE111you don’t like it don’t buy it
who saye dthat i will?? and i see that many dont buy it and VW must paussed production but wtf they think that there is so much idiots who will pay 50000euro for car size of Škoda Fabia or Polo which have even better interior then this EV junk but they cost 3x less ?? are they really serious in stupid VW!? @@garyclack3807
I agree. It looks much more refined to me than the competition. Its more timeless than the Teslas, Nero, or Kona.
Thanks for the review! Only 2,500 miles on my 2023 Pro S AWD so far and I love the ID.4. As stated in your review, the ID.4 is a nice riding/handling car, far nicer than others I've owned. I, too, love the travel assist functions and use them anytime I'm on the highway. Yes, the software can lag on startup and trying to fast charge on a cold battery can be frustrating, but overall, the ID.4 is a great vehicle that just happens to be an EV. The AWD handles wonderfully in snow, probably the best vehicle I have ever owned in that regard, even without dedicated snow tires.
I have the 2023 ProS rwd and enjoy the car for the most part. Seats are comfy, heated seats are great. Smooth and quiet. I use the cruise control functions around town more than highway driving actually. I never could log in as the main user so I’m just a guest in my own car. I agree with much of what you folks have said. I noticed your car was up to 170+kw while charging. The highest I’ve reached is maybe 133kw at a 350kw station. I envy the Ionic5’s and EV6’s that charge in 15-20 minutes. So far my biggest pet peeve is my key fob batteries now last maybe two weeks. I’ve turned off the Auto Unlock/proximity features, tried different battery brands, no difference. The original batteries lasted 3 months but since then, two weeks. I use a faraday box when at home. I have to carry a spare battery in my pocket when I leave the house. I’m worried I will break the plastic cover on the door handle each time I need to use the actual key to open the door. My first year of ownership will be in June ‘24. Good job on your channel btw!
That is so strange about your Fob. We have had no issues! Weird...
I have an ID5 and I think your comments are spot on 👍
I picked up a used 2023 pro s awd last week and I really like it. I drove it from Southern California back home to Washington state. Great ride, great charging with the sk battery, running version 3.5 and it’s snappier than the UI on my last 2 vehicles. Most major complaints are a non issue for me. Same as you addressed. I think the combination of early software issues and the 2024 refresh softened demand for the 23’s. I got an insane deal that was too good to pass up. Looks great in the pure grey color too. Overall a great purchase.
Glad you are enjoying it!
Great video! I love my 2023 id4. I have done the same amount of miles and it is a great road tripper.
All your points I echo them. The car has grown on me and I do like it a lot, I have the Pro S AWD and I wish it had a little more range like 280 would have been ideal. but I must say the range and regenerative breaking is awesome! I can't stand the notifications as you said. quite annoying one thing I would have pointed out is every time ya get into the car you have to push OK for the driver. I guess it is great if ya have two drivers then all the settings are for each other, but every time I drive I have to hit OK on the screen to get it into the screen. overall I am pleased with it and I never use the Navigation to navigate , I do use it to show range and how much battery % left to get to chargers , that is nice
Nice review. I have a '22 Bolt EV (don't travel much) and so many other EV's talk/complain about SOFTWARE updates or cluncky or better then the other guy, etc. And funny the Bolt never gets or got any updates so it's not a talking point.
Also the simplicity of the car. If there's smoke outside just hit the RECIRC button and you're good. And unlike the Mach-E which will SWITCH back to fresh air, the bolt will stay in recirc until you release it. I have wireless carplay and a wireless charge pad (2LT trim) and the 360 camera view is crystal clear. Hope the '24 works out for you.
Mostly agree with you. Love my ID4. I do think the Travel Assist haptic buttons can be a safety hazard if you brush up against them, and you haven't fully disengaged it when parking.
Just got a great deal in a new 2023 Pro S AWD. After all my research prior to purchase I set a low bar in my head from the user complaints in the reviews. I have zero complaints and found everything the reviewers complained about to be a non-issue. ...One individual prior to me posted having to (edit)-"tap box on screen" for user profile every time you start the car, I would agree with that as my only complaint.
The sign in is annoying, but not the end of the world. We love ours, zero issues!
@@theaverageev yes, and when I mean sign in, I mean tap the box with my name on the screen 😅
Great video! I appreciate both of your perspectives and I can't wait to see your thoughts on the '24 ID.4.
Thanks for watching!!!
Thanks so helpful. How was it getting a charger at home?
I have a 23’ AWD Pro, it drives great and it’s comfortable. It’s not the best looking EV out there but not the worse, some parts of the car feel cheap but not as cheap as other brands. It’s not my only car as I only bought it just to commute. If it weren’t for the incentives, rebates and free charging I would have not considered the ID.4. If you paid msrp and didn’t qualify for any tax credits, I’m not sure why you would choose this EV over other brands.
Is there a way the exterior lights go on automatically during night and day? Now when I start it starts auto but then the lights are out during the day and I would like to to be on. I have to do it manually every time, is there a way this is standard?
I think the DRLs are always on? Then the main headlights come on at night? We have it set on auto on the little light panel to the left of the steering wheel. Just toggle through to auto!
My biggest issue with my 2023 ID.4 is the manually selection of the user profile every time you get in the car and the time it takes to log in to the profile.
For example: I get in the car, I have to manually pick the profile (every other cars just automatically logging in to the last profile) and it take a minute or so, if I need to get out and fix my kid on the back and/or load something I have to do it again. Sometimes the android auto stars automatically, sometimes I have to do it manually it takes up to 3 minutes. My aftermarket Toyota's Android Auto puck takes about 20 second and doesn't require me to press anything.
That's would be my only complaint on my 2023 Pro S AWD.
Great to hear your impressions. I test drove a 2022 and that software system just confounded me. And I'm not a guy who's whole life centres around delving into the infotainment, but that basically killed my interest in the ID4. Now that I've seen a couple videos on the new system, new shifter, new main screen, new much more powerful motors... it looks like it's a real contender.
Having said that, I just drove the new Model 3 and it's really made a lot of improvements in refinement. Certainly you have to get used to the buttons on the steering wheel replacing the stalks, but if the new Model Y is much more refined like the Model 3, it's also going to be a big competitor.
I just think VW has over priced the ID4 now here in Canada. It's the same price as a Model Y AWD. And the RWD Model Y is less than the RWD ID4.
My only complaint about my 2023 ID.4 Pro S AWD is that the 2024 is even better, and I would probably go with the rear wheel drive and wait for NACS to happen. Well, that, and the software really is too slow to start up, but after that it's fine.
I show your videos to my wife to help with her apprehensions over getting an ID.4. Thanks.
Question: Does your ID.4 have the staggered tire size arrangement or does it have identically sized wheels/tires? I ask because people have concerns about tire wear and not being able to rotate the tires as easily.
ID.4 comes standard with staggered. We still have that set up! Since it is RWD there appears to be a slight bit more of wear in the back compared to the front (as there should be), but it doesn't appear to be a crazy difference.
Excellent assessment provided on the ID 4, which has either received a low rating or little appreciation from other reviewers. particularly those who contrast it with the Skoda Enyaq or Q4 Etron. The Q4 Etron, which has a similar drive to ID4 has received negative ratings from other Bhias users who thought ID 4 was too noisy or too bumpy on the road, which is unfair. Even VW Customer Services, which assists Audi, Skoda, and VW customers, stated that the ID4 is their best-engineered vehicle and more sophisticated than those of its sister firms. Please test the vehicle and you will see for yourself. However its a matter of choice and I have decided to go for ID4 delivering on 19th Feb. The drive beats 90% of EVs in the market and you wont be disappointed. Please note reviewers in their reviews jumping from one vehicle to another in their videos cannot be trusted as they will play bhias subconsciously not realising how ridiculous their comments are made.One reviewer in the Q4 was on a very jumpy road and his head nearly bashing the ceiling of car but did not comment negatively. The same route driven in the ID4 he bickered on with multiple negative comments. Most reviews I will not trust but husband and wife whom both drived the same car and also renewing their vehicle to same model can be trusted.
Wow, nice review as a wrap up. Really the next one I hope to see is your compare and contrast with your new ID4. I had the opportunity to drive one for a few weeks this past fall and I have to agree with your wife on the steering wheel haptics. Coming from an e-tron I just never mastered the ID.4 haptics. Perhaps with time. I also never road tripped the ID.4 so my fast charging experience was limited but I thought that it hit the downward part of its charging curve early. Again, coming from an e-tron. But I almost liked it better than the Q4 e-tron I had as a loaner. Almost. Great review.
Getting mine in march 2025..I'm in Ireland..thanks for the info. I can I ask where you got it mobile fone holder .
I think I got it from Costco actually!
Thank you for the review. Do you recommend leasing or finance the ID.4.
Hmm... It is tough to say with the way things have depreciated, I would say lease for now. If you plan to keep it for the long haul, then go ahead and buy it! We are likely to lease our 2024. $20k in depreciation in one year was a tough pill to swallow. If I didn't want to get the 2024 for the updates and content, I would just sit on or current ID.4 for sure..
@@theaverageev I am about to buy a 2023 VW ID.4 Pro RWD. Do you still recommend this car?
@@dancar02 We have absolutely love ours. I still look forward to getting in it when my wife lets me! 😂😂😂
I really like the VW ID.4 and Polestar 2 but here in Louisiana I am no where near a charger.. the electrify america ones are 2 hours away and the other about 3 hours.. tesla charges are 60 miles NE from me and 80 miles NW of me assuming you can use a Tesla charger.. So I would have to charge strictly at home. And I don't know if any one services one in my area so it would be an hour or so away to get it to a service center, but all that is true if you have a Tesla also. So those are the big issues to overcome.
Good review!
Thanks for watching!
100% Volkswagen guy but will not go EVolks. Just like my GTI too much to change to EV. But willing to watch your 1 year review.😁
Hopefully ID.GTI comes to US! I would be interested in getting that!
Good review. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Hello sir somehow my 2023 id.4 doesn’t charge at my level 2 charger/ it’s not charging, what could be the reason?
Hmm... Sometimes ours doesn't latch well with certain Level 2 handles. What Level 2 EVSE are you currently using? Tough to help without seeing what's going on, but I will try and help! Feel free to email me with pictures of what's going on!
@@theaverageev it was charging until now don’t know what happened
@@theaverageev hello sir so I turn the power supply switch on the breaker off and off and now I am able to charge my car it was not getting power supply from the beaker just want to let you know thanks once again
@@daxpatel72 good to know!!!
Looping back around, I know you're looking forward to your 2024 ID.4 but the VW dealership near me is moving locations and trying to clear off their lot, so they've put some pretty good discounts on ID.4s in addition to the tax credit and it's looking like a potentially sweet deal. Since this is only for cars on the lot my only choices would be 2023s. Is it worth making a move or is it smarter in your opinion to wait for a '24 (or '25, depending on when VW starts going with NACS)? Also, their sale incentives make the Pro S and Pro price competitive. In your experience is there anything the Pro S has that you wish your Pro had? Thanks for your input if you have the time.
I would not wait for native NACS since there will be adapters. It really depends on how you plan to use the vehicle. If you are pretty much just going to cruise and use CarPlay or Android Auto, then save the money and get the 2023. If you want the improved infotainment, faster motor, and battery preconditioning, then wait for the 2024. If you plan on charging at home then battery preconditioning isn't as important, but if you will need to rely on public charging and like to roadtrip a lot, then the battery preconditioning is a must have. There have been no announcement of battery preconditioning coming to 2023s anytime soon, even though the cars have the equipment to do it.
As for Pro vs Pro S, the moon roof is nice for Pro S, but I never get to enjoy since looking straight up is frowned upon when driving! Haha! The power seats are nice for Pro S and the materials are nice as well compared to the Pro. The 2024 has ventilated seats which is new for the ID.4. The Pro S has massaging seats as well, which are fine! Not the best, but not the worst. The S also has power lift gate which we haven't missed much, but is definitely nice to have!
@@theaverageev Thanks for the in-depth answer. I'd be mostly commuting and we're looking to install an L2 hookup at home (we do have a regular 110V outlet I could use to top up daily since I'm normally only going about 10 mi a day) and there's a municipal charger in my town. Surprisingly the garage at Philly 30th Street Station doesn't have charging yet and I commute out of there. I'll have to talk to the management about that.
As far as the Pro vs Pro S it sounds like I could take or leave most of it. I use AA for infotainment so no big deal there and in-car software can always get an update in the future, who knows. My current daily driver is a 13-year old Jetta S, so it has heated seats and that's it from a comfort perspective so I wouldn't be missing anything. Never had leather seats, heated steering, any of that.
Then it sounds like Pro is a good fit for you! I just got some updates about the 2024 and it will be about $900 more expensive and will not include the 3 year free charging plan. Instead it will have 500kWh and 3 years of free Pass+ membership with Electrify America!
@@theaverageev Sadly after running the finances I may just not be in the position to make the jump until next year. So it goes. So I'll just keep watching your channel so I'll be best informed for next year. :)
I have the same style window switches on my 2013 Jetta. That's just how VW makes them I guess.
I agree with you. I have a 2022 Pro S RWD and it's been a great car. I don't seem to have many issues with the software. And 18 months of ownership with 57k miles driven. I have no issues with the charging speed. Plus my original tires lasted 49k. I now have Pirrelli Scorpion Zeros AS Elec and they have improved the ride.
What's your range?
@@redandblack1911 highway driving is around 250 miles. But I never go below 10%.
Nice review. You mentioned trading in for a 24' model. What do you guys think about the brutal depreciation for the ID.4? I sold my 21' Pro S RWD last summer for $29k, just checked KBB and the trade on it now would be $18k after accounting for the additional miles.... 🤯
Soul crushing... truly sucks. If I didn't have this channel we would obviously just keep the 2023. We are going to lease the 2024 to avoid this depreciation mess again. Then figure everything out in three years as far as a more permanent car for my wife!
You two are cute!
Food lion parking lot is horrible.....thats all I have to say for now.
Yes it is... Always stressful...
Good information, but presentation suffers. Consider scrubbing all the uses of ‘like” and “anyways” (use anyway) and maybe the woman could speak up?
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