To Train Skilled Workers, Americans Use German Model | The New York Times

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  • @6string4
    @6string4 6 років тому +19

    i did a apprenticeship always had work always made great money no debt i think this is great

  • @carlosmante
    @carlosmante 7 років тому +19

    German Companies are Training hundred of hard working Mexicans in Germany. God Bless Germany and Mexico.

  • @kindder90er3
    @kindder90er3 6 років тому +16

    This is, why Germany is ekonomically > so successfull and the People own a skilled "Vacation" with a Diploma. And everybody has after the Apprenticeship-time has a job and earn good Money.
    And when he / she maybe becomes jobless > he / she has not afraid so much, because he / she gets easily / quickly a new good job because he / she is a highly skilled Worker with skills and a Diploma ( Associate Degree in the USA- I think ?? ).
    And Everybody is proud to be "Somebody" > for exp. > "Electrisian" or "Carpenter" or "IndustrialMechanic" or whatever.
    And it is a good alternativ for Somebody who can´t afford an expensive Community College ( CC ).
    And after Apprentice-Ship-time and Armytime >> Everbody can study further and go to the College or University and became in this "Way" or "Branch" >> a Master-Engenieur ( gets a University Bachelor > Master Degree ) for exp. Maschinery-Constructeur or whatever.
    And this Aprent.- System will help the Economy of the USA to grew up / to raise up. Greetings from Germany.

    • @kindder90er3
      @kindder90er3 4 роки тому

      @MΛX Haha, Ok, "Vocation".. Thank you for correcting me. I ´m from Germany, my English is not perfect, I will improve it. But President Trump started March 2017 - to implement the Apprenticeship-System-Programm in the whole USA - it will works. Greetings from GE.

  • @boahkeinbockmehr
    @boahkeinbockmehr 6 років тому +14

    What one has to keep in mind though is the loyalty of german workers and their pride in their company. This concept works here because most people will stay at the company that learned them for the rest of their working life, making it a worthy investment. This is partialy due to culture (e.g. most hardly ever move, stability being more valued than risky opportunity, etc) and partialy due to structure; every company has a workers union, but contrary to many other countries they are seen as partners by the management and they work together instead of against each other. there is alot of social security, meaning you have less personal worries, there is alot of emphasis on the well being of the staff (1 month of paid vacation per year (which you have to take), plus 2nd most holidays in the world, relatively short workdays and weeks, protection of privacy after work (no calls), often subsediced meals at the company, an hour lunch break, most big companies employ their own doctors and most have regular social and fitness activities. Paid sick time and paid time off in case of a baby with job security and you even have a right to go to a paid for spa for a week or so every couple of years, or in case of exhaustion even more often. It is a we the company not they my employers. that's also why germans tend to be more productive while working less time than e.g. the british, as they take pride in their company, their product and their profession plus are often given bonuses based on team performance and success of the company.

    • @maxkongo8747
      @maxkongo8747 5 років тому +1

      gut gesagt

    • @Sedna063
      @Sedna063 5 років тому +2

      Yeah, so many people here in Germany never leave their company. Though it changes, apprentices tend to stay for long.

    • @Arltratlo
      @Arltratlo 5 років тому +4

      3.5yrs training as a electrican, and i am in my firm for now 33 years, 2 months and 18 days, greetings from Germany

    • @leonardpearlman4017
      @leonardpearlman4017 3 роки тому

      My guess is that there is NONE of this in South Carolina!

  • @obfuscated3090
    @obfuscated3090 6 років тому +7

    SC workforce education works with businesses to provide education and training. If you live here, support those programs no matter who you are because we all benefit from a healthy SC economy.

  • @sz42781
    @sz42781 7 років тому +11

    Beautiful, we need this in the states

    • @arvedludwig3584
      @arvedludwig3584 5 років тому

      I think that one candidate from the dems, Yang was his name i guess, wants to establish this system in the states.

    • @armandflores5671
      @armandflores5671 4 роки тому

      The program is already implemented in SC.

  • @perugino25
    @perugino25 5 років тому +3

    I wish there is one in my time...this is a great opportunity

  • @robfraley4210
    @robfraley4210 6 років тому +3

    Cool program, Good for them.....

  • @Raubabbau
    @Raubabbau 4 роки тому +2

    With all the sympathy, the school system shown in the video hardly corresponds to a German vocational training. Rather a "vocational preparation measure" ordered by the German employment office if the student has poor grades and / or no qualification or does not know what he wants to become. This takes place BEFORE proper vocational training. A little practical experience should make the young person more attractive for the training company (I will explain later) and highlight it among its competitors, which is important when the grades are bad. The company usually always prefers the person with the better grades, in Germany it is expected that one has already done an internship or vacation job in the industry. The potential trainee signs a training contract with a training company. The contract obliges the trainee to go to work on time, to go to vocational school and to obey the instructor. The training company and the trainer must be certified if they want to train, that is, the trainer must do training to train. Without certificates, the training is invalid. This is monitored by the Chamber of Commerce and Industry. The school works with the chamber, but is monitored by the Ministry of Culture, which determines the school's curriculum with the economy. The trainee spends the first time in the company. So he starts practically immediately, starting with simple auxiliary work, e.g. to give the journeyman tools. It is not mandatory that the trainee works with the instructor specified in the contract, he often has other trainees or has to do his regular work. Often experienced journeymen or trainees who are almost finished with their training take care of the trainee. In many branches there is still the "master" a journeyman who is back at school and has passed a master's examination, e.g. create a masterpiece that will allow him to be trained to perform more difficult jobs and leadership roles But gradually the trainee is allowed to perform more and more tasks. The vocational school usually begins in September, the training in August. This usually takes place 2 days a week, in some branches there is "4 weeks in the company, 4 weeks school and from the front".

    • @Raubabbau
      @Raubabbau 4 роки тому

      In addition to job-specific subjects, the school also has general subjects such as English, sport or religion. The trainee should also gain general knowledge. What one or the other boss does not like is that one is taught the German labor and training law. In Germany there are regular holidays for schoolchildren when the vocational school is closed because it is part of a regular school, the trainee can take vacation or have to work. Before I forget: a trainee receives a small salary, it falls below the German minimum wage because it is a training salary, but the trainee sometimes doesn't have to pay any taxes, the amount depends on the industry and whether the company has a collective agreement with the unions Has. He gets money because he is already making a certain amount of profit, but not the full salary yet because he still makes mistakes that are expensive and he is not that fast yet. If half of the training period is up, the trainee has to take the intermediate examination. There it is determined how far he is already, if he fails, it is not that bad, but apprentices from the same company often fail and get these problems with the chamber. Approximately 34 months after the first day of work, the trainee has to take the final examination. Depending on the industry, 1 day of theoretical examination 1 day of practical examination for others 2 x 2 days. This is about everything. I try to explain this using American grades. An A means a chic journeyman's certificate and an award for the training company B-D is meaningless, but you passed. E and F means failed. If you pass it, you can now apply for skilled worker positions and you get a full salary, the training contract becomes invalid and you have to sign a normal employment contract with your former training company and now employer. If you want then, I e.g. hated my instructor and looked for a new job. If a trainee fails, he has the opportunity to repeat the exam twice, if he is proven to be suffering from exam anxiety, the Chamber offers special exams (e.g. alone in the room) there are 6 months between the exams. If the candidate fails for the third time, he has wasted his time and the trainer has a problem. A trainee has to keep a report booklet, record what he has learned, if something is not true, the trainer has to check it, e.g. it has already occurred several times and is no longer allowed to train. Then there is the opposite, an apprentice who has a lot of talent and has internalized the training content faster. He can take 6 months or 12 months to the final exam.

  • @JakobFischer60
    @JakobFischer60 7 років тому +10

    Finally.

  • @stacyclarkson6202
    @stacyclarkson6202 5 років тому +1

    South Carolina is definitely open for Business!!!
    Boeing/BMW/Michelin ,ect!!!

  • @emuriddle9364
    @emuriddle9364 5 років тому

    Make it into national law, and you have a deal. At least the man-child CEOs can stop complaining about lack of workers.

  • @0namehere
    @0namehere 11 років тому +1

    Are these paid apprenticeships? High school students doing paid apprenticeships does seem a bit unique, but where I'm from (Ontario) there's high school co-op programs (unpaid). I knew people that were working in hospitals, the police station, in auto body repair, and in other crafts. Directly after high school, there's apprenticeship programmes. I thought in the U.S., it was similar.
    Blue collar jobs are scoffed at, though, which isn't helping anybody.

    • @JamanWerSonst
      @JamanWerSonst 8 років тому +28

      In Germany apprenticeships are always paid, but I don't know if they copied that part in the US, too.
      Usually germans are in the apprenticeship for 3 years and make between 500 and 1200€ a month. For example if you make an apprenticship as a car mechanic at your local small business you won't get paid as much as for example at BMW or VW. But you end up with the same certificate.
      The wages during the apprenticeship are not enough to make a good living, but given that these kids are usually between 16 and 20 and often still live with their parents its pretty okay.
      The apprenticeships are full time and usually 60% practical education and 40% theory classes in school. In Germany there are seperate schools just for people in apprenticeships(60% of Germanys workforce went through one). So you get an education and are paid a little bit.
      If you ask me, this would have been the solution to Americas economic problems in the heartland, not the protectionism Trump proposed.
      The German system successfully tackles all the issues the US economy is facing.

    • @ads2686
      @ads2686 7 років тому +4

      {name here} I know the BMW one in sc is paid. $12 an hour and are paid $10 an hour when they are at school.

    • @boahkeinbockmehr
      @boahkeinbockmehr 6 років тому

      {name here} there are many different apprenticeships and internships here. You have to do a month as part of your final years of highschool, where payment is up to the employer, you can do an apprenticeship as part of learning a trait, where you work and attend your proffesions "guilds" school and are paid according to your rank (3 years apprentice, 3 years journeyman and then old journeyman or master of your trait), there are internships people do for orientation, where payment is again up to the employer, there is a mandatory apprenticeship in most engineering studies (e.g. i am studying chemistry and material sciences and will have to do a 3 month internship before writing my thesis in my final semester (preferable working where i can write my thesis) and there is dual-studying, meaning that you are fully employed by a company, but also attend university (living expenses are paid for by the company, but you have to show good results in the required time)

    • @arvedludwig3584
      @arvedludwig3584 5 років тому

      @@JamanWerSonst if you're away from home because you can't have the job you want to do at home, then the state will support you with money depending on the wages of your parents or your wealth in general.
      Same administration but different purpose for myself. I'm already a certified diesel mechanic, however I decided to get higher school education and so I went back to a school that is specifically for people who already had a job or an apprenticeship. I do that because I want to become an engineer.
      The state gives me a payment of 400€ per month that I can use for fuel, checks and other stuff.

    • @mrbrainbob5320
      @mrbrainbob5320 4 роки тому

      @@JamanWerSonst apprenticeship in the US have been paid long before the Germans came we didn't copy it from you dont be smug.

  • @curtiscarpenter9881
    @curtiscarpenter9881 4 роки тому

    Study skills like speed reading, help people with accelerated learning to learn faster. Look it up study skills.

  • @josecaudillo6264
    @josecaudillo6264 5 років тому +1

    Aiken county otherwise German county

  • @SapBoy365
    @SapBoy365 5 років тому +1

    Klan state 😂😂😂😂

  • @ennakavi2129
    @ennakavi2129 7 років тому +1

    Hey people, the AIKen county students look like low quality. Please try to do this apprenticeship in better schools.

    • @meisen1988
      @meisen1988 4 роки тому +3

      On what do you base that? Their skin colour?