We need more of this in America's educational system! This delusion that every child needs to go to college is insane and conveys a very disrespectful and unappreciative message to those among us who work with our hands and make it possible for the neurosurgeons of the world to get to work (thank you, mechanics!), work in an environment with operable machinery (thank you machinists and other technicians!), and not be swimming neck-high in human excrement while doing so (thank you custodians of the world!) SMH....really our system needs to pull its head out of its undercarriage and start valuing trades other than those that require a phenomenally-expensive sheepskin to practice!
Besty wow I agree but vocational education is better than theory education.bill Gates,Donald Trump's,Steve jobs,etc all say this thing in different manners
U pep so lucky u have good job vacancy in America As well u got good university I think u should be happy with it In India getting job is like find a needle in grass
Although the U.S. educational system/s is not identical to Germany's. We do in fact have thousands of vocational schools/ colleges. Also some vocational High Schools. I do see advantages in the German system, as the focus is heavier on skills which will be more directly used in a person's field of choice. As opposed to a bunch of useless information, which is theoretically supposed to make you a more well rounded individual. The German model works, because in any first world economy, more skilled tradesmen & women are needed than white collar office types etc..
What a pleasure to see the respect for manual work at all levels of society and the willingness/eagerness of young people to do the work well. Unfortunately here in Israel [and speaking generally] anyone who wants to work with his/her hands is considered to be one who couldn't make the grade of University. The level of work is as you can imagine...and to top it off there are almost no Trade Schools....unbelievable !!!!!!!
Danny Hughes, Israel is an extremely young nation, but in America, the last two hundred years have been about scale. Hamilton wanted an American a non-hereditary aristocracy, and I learned in high school, from the best teacher ever, how he pulled it off and how its legacy remains today. For instance, as a small farm-hold or businessman, you and I would have to pay every cent of tax due each and dollar or acre owned. To have too much (scale) becomes a liability, but that's not REALLY (tax cheat) an issue for the very rich in America. On top of that, politicians like Trump afford the trillions of dollars more of legal tax breaks, and they in turn loan those tax monies back to the government and college students that cannot be for forgiven. The irony is that we're putting ourselves in MASSIVE debt to work at their firms and because there are more graduates than 25 years ago, there is enough supply of workers competing to offer lower pay.
German culture is fascinating. ..like France they still seem to really value skills ... it happens in the UK but in general after training there is maybe not the professionalism and theory. 0 hr contracts and lucky to have a job in the UK.
@@davidhagerty4625 in Indonesia when young man fail find a job in a company or other job vacancy the government give a job be a construction worker like a build roadway,water tunnel,bridge and whatever that has to do with construction under the minister of public work.
@@lordimamsupriadi3936 that is cool. Yes a lot of people here in Scotland go into construction too, after school. In France and Germany they try and encourage learning in college for higher skill jobs, and you see it a lot more. Here in Scotland lots of people may work in shops and call centres too when looking for work... OK jobs but often short contracts
The system is definitely superior to most other training systems. However, bad training companies are a fundamental problem. They train their trainees poorly or not at all and only see them as cheap assistants. I e.g. I trained as a warehouse clerk at a forwarding company. While classmates in the vocational school were already working with modern IT technology, I was walking around with notes like in 1990. I was only allowed to make a forklift license (although it is compulsory) because the labor inspectorate put pressure on during a random check. I was more likely to have trained as a gardener or garbage collector. Although I went to the IHK with another trainee, it did not take action, it ignored it, because the IHK is happy about every training company, whether the quality is right doesn't matter, the main thing is that the numbers are right.
I agree with Betsy Collins 1000%,Tell it like it is, And for those that don't show any value to what she say,Than whoever they are should be re-educated, And pass the torch to other generations and the one's that had got strip and cheated out of opportunies like this, It doesn't matter weather it's Vocational trades,college or universities. Conservative thinkers grow & smart'in up.
I do know that it is possible to start an apprenticeship in Germany for foreigners. Maybe you should research how to do this. There is some information by people who did this on UA-cam.
@@appleslover Wow.. this is actually quite thought provoking, and I think I get what you mean. When you know both languages (German and English), and you hear the German spoken, while reading the translation. I would imagine that it confuses the brain? Like mental feedback of some sort?
Europeans are more practical than other countries even in terms of transport. They just use bicycle instead of cars. Bicycles are cheaper, healthier and cleaners than cars. While in other countries, most of young people become slaves of cars: overwork to pay for cars.
Le Dinh, I had a wonderful German partner in graduate school who told my why Germans are the way they are: education, and particularly clear understanding of almost 600 hundred years of constant war. More importantly, she said their nation doesn't allow individuals to become incredibly rich because historically this leads economic misery for the many, war, then compounded economic misery for the many.
We need more of this in America's educational system! This delusion that every child needs to go to college is insane and conveys a very disrespectful and unappreciative message to those among us who work with our hands and make it possible for the neurosurgeons of the world to get to work (thank you, mechanics!), work in an environment with operable machinery (thank you machinists and other technicians!), and not be swimming neck-high in human excrement while doing so (thank you custodians of the world!) SMH....really our system needs to pull its head out of its undercarriage and start valuing trades other than those that require a phenomenally-expensive sheepskin to practice!
Betsy Collins ahhh do you live in america. We do have vocational schools and trade schools
Besty wow I agree but vocational education is better than theory education.bill Gates,Donald Trump's,Steve jobs,etc all say this thing in different manners
U pep so lucky u have good job vacancy in America
As well u got good university
I think u should be happy with it
In India getting job is like find a needle in grass
@Dan 240Z we have vocational high schools in the usa, well at least in my state new jersey
Although the U.S. educational system/s is not identical to Germany's. We do in fact have thousands of vocational schools/ colleges. Also some vocational High Schools. I do see advantages in the German system, as the focus is heavier on skills which will be more directly used in a person's field of choice. As opposed to a bunch of useless information, which is theoretically supposed to make you a more well rounded individual. The German model works, because in any first world economy, more skilled tradesmen & women are needed than white collar office types etc..
What a pleasure to see the respect for manual work at all levels of society and the willingness/eagerness of young people to do the work well.
Unfortunately here in Israel [and speaking generally] anyone who wants to work with his/her hands is considered to be one who couldn't make the grade of University.
The level of work is as you can imagine...and to top it off there are almost no Trade Schools....unbelievable !!!!!!!
Danny Hughes, Israel is an extremely young nation, but in America, the last two hundred years have been about scale. Hamilton wanted an American a non-hereditary aristocracy, and I learned in high school, from the best teacher ever, how he pulled it off and how its legacy remains today. For instance, as a small farm-hold or businessman, you and I would have to pay every cent of tax due each and dollar or acre owned. To have too much (scale) becomes a liability, but that's not REALLY (tax cheat) an issue for the very rich in America. On top of that, politicians like Trump afford the trillions of dollars more of legal tax breaks, and they in turn loan those tax monies back to the government and college students that cannot be for forgiven. The irony is that we're putting ourselves in MASSIVE debt to work at their firms and because there are more graduates than 25 years ago, there is enough supply of workers competing to offer lower pay.
@@cmathews5909 Thanks for taking the time to comment.
German culture is fascinating. ..like France they still seem to really value skills ... it happens in the UK but in general after training there is maybe not the professionalism and theory. 0 hr contracts and lucky to have a job in the UK.
Really dude?
@@lordimamsupriadi3936 Yes....
@@davidhagerty4625 in Indonesia when young man fail find a job in a company or other job vacancy the government give a job be a construction worker like a build roadway,water tunnel,bridge and whatever that has to do with construction under the minister of public work.
@@lordimamsupriadi3936 that is cool. Yes a lot of people here in Scotland go into construction too, after school. In France and Germany they try and encourage learning in college for higher skill jobs, and you see it a lot more. Here in Scotland lots of people may work in shops and call centres too when looking for work... OK jobs but often short contracts
@@davidhagerty4625i started 18 years old be a construction worker and when wake up sleep my body is like squezze🤣🤣 yeah bruh life is struggle,
The system is definitely superior to most other training systems. However, bad training companies are a fundamental problem. They train their trainees poorly or not at all and only see them as cheap assistants. I e.g. I trained as a warehouse clerk at a forwarding company. While classmates in the vocational school were already working with modern IT technology, I was walking around with notes like in 1990. I was only allowed to make a forklift license (although it is compulsory) because the labor inspectorate put pressure on during a random check. I was more likely to have trained as a gardener or garbage collector. Although I went to the IHK with another trainee, it did not take action, it ignored it, because the IHK is happy about every training company, whether the quality is right doesn't matter, the main thing is that the numbers are right.
I am also like vocational work as i do my self! from Bangladesh🇧🇩 Thanks technical expart German 🇩🇪
Are you in Germany ?
I agree with Betsy Collins 1000%,Tell it like it is, And for those that don't show any value to what she say,Than whoever they are should be re-educated, And pass the torch to other generations and the one's that had got strip and cheated out of opportunies like this, It doesn't matter weather it's Vocational trades,college or universities. Conservative thinkers grow & smart'in up.
Great presentation.
I really love to do vocational in Germany
In India education is very expensive
As a student can't afford it
I live in India too. In 12th rn. Thinking to do vocational course instead of college
Same
I do know that it is possible to start an apprenticeship in Germany for foreigners. Maybe you should research how to do this. There is some information by people who did this on UA-cam.
LaborIntensive 5:17
Examples of good cases to adopt
may i have the more details about Germany's dual educational system ,as i am having a comparative studies on it .
Can i start ausbildung on professional Driving . Like trailer or any equipment ??
I want to attend this vocational school for automation Engineering course as I am working in Breweries in my country.
AFTERSCHOOL HARVARD OXFORD
How do I register? I am Ready
Age limit apply this course
It's so weird hearing German translated to English.
Yes when you learnt both
@@appleslover Wow.. this is actually quite thought provoking, and I think I get what you mean. When you know both languages (German and English), and you hear the German spoken, while reading the translation. I would imagine that it confuses the brain? Like mental feedback of some sort?
Europeans are more practical than other countries even in terms of transport. They just use bicycle instead of cars. Bicycles are cheaper, healthier and cleaners than cars. While in other countries, most of young people become slaves of cars: overwork to pay for cars.
Le Dinh, I had a wonderful German partner in graduate school who told my why Germans are the way they are: education, and particularly clear understanding of almost 600 hundred years of constant war. More importantly, she said their nation doesn't allow individuals to become incredibly rich because historically this leads economic misery for the many, war, then compounded economic misery for the many.
I’m not sure if I would go with the overgeneralization of “Europeans”. This is Germany.
Take lesson from it
IDE train under Sebastian any day. Hubba hubba 😳😬😉
Can international student do dual vocational training