Hey Aram! Enjoyed your analysis! Pretty on point and all what I've been working on in training. I appreciate the "it's not just as easy as get your blades off the water". For me, my biggest challenge is undoing a lot of the work I've done previously. Performing the better technique, ie, better weight over in pelvis and having better preparation is something I struggle to consistently do as it is not my default. Then add bad conditions and becomes very difficult. Enjoying the improvement curve in my second season of sculling though and excited to see what happens! Thanks Aram!
Hi Cam, I have also had the same issues with sculling which Aram is describing and capsized in a race (rough conditions also). I have watched your rowing UA-cam over the years and think you have very similar technical issues with hip movement as I am generally experinencing. I think this is caused for back injury in early years of rowing (bringing the upper body on early protects the lower lumber but reduces effective length of the rowing stroke) Try erging without shoes and pay attention to your feet namely the heals at the catch. Work on maintaining connection with the feet at all time and push the heals down at the catch forget the upper body and grabbing with the arms....also full connection at this finish with heals down and pelvis in strong position. Your heals will come out of the cups if you get it wrong....think horizontal and length through the slide. You are a superb athlete and will master the single in the coming years....also bloody gutsy putting yourself out there with your video's.
I started rowing 4 months ago here in Rio. Initially, it was supposed to be a cross-training option to running. After a couple of months, I fell in love with the sport and I am currently rowing 4 times a week at the lagoon here in Rio (where we had the Olympics in 2016). Quite often, we have rough conditions. Sometimes even similar to the ones on this video. Like today, for example :). I have been watching your videos almost daily Aram, and I find them all superb and extremely helpful. But this one was probably the most helpful one so far to me. What you said about keeping tension in the quads and the the weight on the seat, rather than using the oars for balance, makes 200% sense to me! I will be mindful about it next time. This is what I noticed today: because of all of the waves, I kept trying to get the oars out of the water as much as possible. In order to do that, my focus was on, at the end of the drive, get the blades out of the water. But, because of the rough conditions, they would basically leave the water in a totally imbalanced way. And I kept trying to correct that during the recovery, which always led to a crappy catch, which in turn generated even more imbalances. Maybe I should focus on keeping tension in my quads and the core stable at the end of the drive, before getting the blades out of the water and feathering. Thank you for all of your videos!
Great analysis Aram from a limited view - I follow Cam and after all the years of intense trials with British Rowing and sweep in a Leander 8, he’s really putting a lot into racing a 1x and would benefit from expert coaching as his fitness and dedication is right up there😎
Forget the water, I’ve jettisoned myself off the back on the Erg, rowing without foot straps and losing my grip on the handle. 🤣🤣🤣 Aram and Cam in the same content…beautiful. Thanks to both for sharing this!
I've capsized three times, out of race, but I need to think to remember because it is not so important to me. In your first months you always have that fear. When you fall in, and enjoy the experience, push you at being more confident. I love the way Cameron tell you in the video, like something normal. A mistake, but not the end of the world. The same as you do, it is not a shame. The shame is not rowing because of you can fall in, having fear of it. I appreciate your advice of not losing the straight position of the body and deal with the rough conditions with your arms; when the river is like that, you are in a survivor mode and making a lot of mistakes.
Yup, raced there back in my college years. It's a lake but it's at an altitude and if you're not used to training in the sea like him the wind can get pretty bad.
While watching some of Cam's other rowing videos, I noted that his knees twist slightly from side to side coming forward from blade exit and coming forward into the catch (Recovery) which also assists with the dropping of the shoulder at the catch. This also contributes to the balance and instability at the catch especially in bad weather. ❤🌻 Love your journey Cam. Keep on Keeping on.
It would be interesting to hear Cam’s thoughts. Maybe Aram and Cam can do a few videos together??? You could both benefit by growing your subscribers. AramCam or CamAram?
Excellent analysis. I do coastal rowing, and in conditions much rougher than these, you find great fun and challenge though your blades get thrown in all directions all the time while your cockpit fills and drains regularly. You sort of learn to compensate for this and it's an extremely great exercise and thrill - but speed loss is your next challenge. If I ever found myself in a racing shell like this I would probably turn turtle in a split second :-). I'm very impressed how fast and controlled these guys are in boats that narrow, and it's very interesting to learn how even very small body movements make a lot of difference when you press it to the extremes.
Capsized in the single once on a race start, it had a clip on rigger and on the 4th stroke in, the rigger broke off, I snapped two of the four mushroom heads holding the rigger to the rails and bent the rails. All happened so fast.
There are two types of rowers - those who have flipped, and those who will flip. Nothing shameful about it. Every club has some crusty old guy who says something along the lines of "I've been rowing out of here for 20 years and never flipped", which is either a lie, or means they row once a year, in the summer, during mirror flat conditions.
If your overall technique is set and good, then better not, since thiis changes your handle height during the drive. If it is struggle anyway, then better yes.
Yep! I capsized in a single while showing someone how far forward I could go and I flipped a second time due to my gate not being tight. it's just one of those things that can happen to anyone :)
Would this explain why I am better in rough water since I started paddling unstable kayaks. That I improved my core and the muscles that allow separation of trunk and arms?
Only twice so far. Once was when I pushed off too hard without my feet in (beginner in roughish water had just gone slow over a shark net so pushed off once more to get away from that before I stopped to put feet. I still don’t have full power or stroke length with feet out but getting better). Second time was in a double. We got caught up in tree too close to bank and the beginner i was with put her blade back in the gate wrong once we got it untangled from a vine. So I was rowing by myself whilst she just shipped blades and sat still. Not sure what happened but I tipped it and in we went. It was pretty flat water. I assume I just stressed out and tried too hard as I was against the tide and dug a blade in. I remember getting distracted by noticing her blade was upside down (still out of water so no real drama but I thought it was right way up earlier) so maybe I looked back at the wrong time. We weren’t having a good row balance wise before all that happened.
Hey Aram! Enjoyed your analysis!
Pretty on point and all what I've been working on in training. I appreciate the "it's not just as easy as get your blades off the water".
For me, my biggest challenge is undoing a lot of the work I've done previously. Performing the better technique, ie, better weight over in pelvis and having better preparation is something I struggle to consistently do as it is not my default. Then add bad conditions and becomes very difficult.
Enjoying the improvement curve in my second season of sculling though and excited to see what happens!
Thanks Aram!
Thank you Cameron! It is far from easy, and you are doing a great job!
Hi Cam, I have also had the same issues with sculling which Aram is describing and capsized in a race (rough conditions also). I have watched your rowing UA-cam over the years and think you have very similar technical issues with hip movement as I am generally experinencing. I think this is caused for back injury in early years of rowing (bringing the upper body on early protects the lower lumber but reduces effective length of the rowing stroke)
Try erging without shoes and pay attention to your feet namely the heals at the catch. Work on maintaining connection with the feet at all time and push the heals down at the catch forget the upper body and grabbing with the arms....also full connection at this finish with heals down and pelvis in strong position.
Your heals will come out of the cups if you get it wrong....think horizontal and length through the slide.
You are a superb athlete and will master the single in the coming years....also bloody gutsy putting yourself out there with your video's.
I started rowing 4 months ago here in Rio. Initially, it was supposed to be a cross-training option to running. After a couple of months, I fell in love with the sport and I am currently rowing 4 times a week at the lagoon here in Rio (where we had the Olympics in 2016).
Quite often, we have rough conditions. Sometimes even similar to the ones on this video. Like today, for example :).
I have been watching your videos almost daily Aram, and I find them all superb and extremely helpful. But this one was probably the most helpful one so far to me. What you said about keeping tension in the quads and the the weight on the seat, rather than using the oars for balance, makes 200% sense to me! I will be mindful about it next time. This is what I noticed today: because of all of the waves, I kept trying to get the oars out of the water as much as possible. In order to do that, my focus was on, at the end of the drive, get the blades out of the water. But, because of the rough conditions, they would basically leave the water in a totally imbalanced way. And I kept trying to correct that during the recovery, which always led to a crappy catch, which in turn generated even more imbalances. Maybe I should focus on keeping tension in my quads and the core stable at the end of the drive, before getting the blades out of the water and feathering.
Thank you for all of your videos!
what would we do without you and cam on youtube
best regards lads
THE ROWING CHANNELS COLLIDE
Great analysis Aram from a limited view - I follow Cam and after all the years of intense trials with British Rowing and sweep in a Leander 8, he’s really putting a lot into racing a 1x and would benefit from expert coaching as his fitness and dedication is right up there😎
happy to help. Absolutely
Forget the water, I’ve jettisoned myself off the back on the Erg, rowing without foot straps and losing my grip on the handle. 🤣🤣🤣 Aram and Cam in the same content…beautiful. Thanks to both for sharing this!
Cam is a top guy. He’s always willing to answer any questions on his channel.
YOOOO WHAT A CROSSOVER! MY TWO FAVORITE ROWING CHANNELS
This is the biggest rowing crossover ever
I've capsized three times, out of race, but I need to think to remember because it is not so important to me. In your first months you always have that fear. When you fall in, and enjoy the experience, push you at being more confident. I love the way Cameron tell you in the video, like something normal. A mistake, but not the end of the world. The same as you do, it is not a shame. The shame is not rowing because of you can fall in, having fear of it. I appreciate your advice of not losing the straight position of the body and deal with the rough conditions with your arms; when the river is like that, you are in a survivor mode and making a lot of mistakes.
Yup, raced there back in my college years. It's a lake but it's at an altitude and if you're not used to training in the sea like him the wind can get pretty bad.
While watching some of Cam's other rowing videos, I noted that his knees twist slightly from side to side coming forward from blade exit and coming forward into the catch (Recovery) which also assists with the dropping of the shoulder at the catch. This also contributes to the balance and instability at the catch especially in bad weather.
❤🌻 Love your journey Cam. Keep on Keeping on.
It would be interesting to hear Cam’s thoughts. Maybe Aram and Cam can do a few videos together??? You could both benefit by growing your subscribers. AramCam or CamAram?
Excellent analysis. I do coastal rowing, and in conditions much rougher than these, you find great fun and challenge though your blades get thrown in all directions all the time while your cockpit fills and drains regularly. You sort of learn to compensate for this and it's an extremely great exercise and thrill - but speed loss is your next challenge. If I ever found myself in a racing shell like this I would probably turn turtle in a split second :-). I'm very impressed how fast and controlled these guys are in boats that narrow, and it's very interesting to learn how even very small body movements make a lot of difference when you press it to the extremes.
racing in rough water always makes your rowing rough as well!
Capsized in the single once on a race start, it had a clip on rigger and on the 4th stroke in, the rigger broke off, I snapped two of the four mushroom heads holding the rigger to the rails and bent the rails. All happened so fast.
There are two types of rowers - those who have flipped, and those who will flip. Nothing shameful about it. Every club has some crusty old guy who says something along the lines of "I've been rowing out of here for 20 years and never flipped", which is either a lie, or means they row once a year, in the summer, during mirror flat conditions.
This video brought me back to both of you. Let's see more collab pls!?
Definitely recommend checking out Cam’s youtube channel if you haven’t already, great content.
In rough conditions, would you ever add an extra spacer to achieve more oar height off the water on the recovery?
If your overall technique is set and good, then better not, since thiis changes your handle height during the drive. If it is struggle anyway, then better yes.
Yep! I capsized in a single while showing someone how far forward I could go and I flipped a second time due to my gate not being tight. it's just one of those things that can happen to anyone :)
Hello there,
I haven't capized yet but I'm so talented that I can squirt myself with water while rowing.
Amazing, right? 👍🏻
Would this explain why I am better in rough water since I started paddling unstable kayaks. That I improved my core and the muscles that allow separation of trunk and arms?
Very well possible
I have actually capsized because of the very same reason, trying to impress some girls at the dock and not locking one of my oarlocks :Dd
Only twice so far. Once was when I pushed off too hard without my feet in (beginner in roughish water had just gone slow over a shark net so pushed off once more to get away from that before I stopped to put feet. I still don’t have full power or stroke length with feet out but getting better). Second time was in a double. We got caught up in tree too close to bank and the beginner i was with put her blade back in the gate wrong once we got it untangled from a vine. So I was rowing by myself whilst she just shipped blades and sat still. Not sure what happened but I tipped it and in we went. It was pretty flat water. I assume I just stressed out and tried too hard as I was against the tide and dug a blade in. I remember getting distracted by noticing her blade was upside down (still out of water so no real drama but I thought it was right way up earlier) so maybe I looked back at the wrong time. We weren’t having a good row balance wise before all that happened.
Maybe he’s just not used to coastal conditions along side the fact he’s rowing a river boat in rough conditions